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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
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Calling it right now. This team WILL make it at least to the Sweet 16.
We got this.
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Don’t see us beating FSU unless they do one of their March chokes.
But I like the draw of our region as a whole
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Wojo needs to bring in Junior Cadougan to pump up the team like he did last time.
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I honestly don't like any of the potential match ups. My initial gut says MU is the 5/12 upset.
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Wojo needs to bring in Junior Cadougan to pump up the team like he did last time.
Um, after NYC, I don’t think motivation is a problem.
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Lost 5 of 6, Markus is injured. I like the optimism though
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I honestly don't like any of the potential match ups. My initial gut says MU is the 5/12 upset.
Everyone said Murray St would beat Marquette in 2012 as well.
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Everyone said Murray St would beat Marquette in 2012 as well.
I am usually the optimist. I will probably become more optimistic as the week progresses. Right now, my initial reaction is uh oh.
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I am usually the optimist. I will probably become more optimistic as the week progresses. Right now, my initial reaction is uh oh.
Murray St no matta
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Its a tough draw. Murray State is a good team. FSU is really tall and athletic. Vermont will have a ton of fans and if they make it to the second game it will be like a home game for them with the crowd.
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I honestly don't like any of the potential match ups. My initial gut says MU is the 5/12 upset.
The two teams I was hoping to avoid early were Murray State (big name star looking to prove himself) and Florida State (physical defense with length).
We're getting both of them.
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If Sacar can stay out of foul trouble, MU will be in good shape against Murray St.
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Wow - A little while ago, people were concerned we would get screwed with a bad seed. We got a five, and now everybody here is worried…
We got this.
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Like the first round draw. Don’t like much after that.
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If Sacar can stay out of foul trouble, MU will be in good shape against Murray St.
It might be more important to keep Theo out of foul trouble. Murray does most of their scoring at the rim. They're 6th in 2pt%
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Don't mind Murray. One stud and then what? They went 1-1 against Belmont and beat nobody else that matters.
Agreed with most on FSU, but when you're facing a top 12 team, it's not going to be easy regardless.
Go Vermont.
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If MU plays like they did Thursday against NCAA tourney team St. John's, it doesn't much matter who they're playing....they're gonna roll over some teams. Can't wait till Thursday!
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We’ve lost 5 of 6 so we could lose no doubt.
But this is not some terrible first round match up. It’s definitely one we should win.
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I honestly don't like any of the potential match ups. My initial gut says MU is the 5/12 upset.
Bucky will be the 5 seed upset
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Shocked we got a 5 seed.
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Clark Kellogg just called Murray State.
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Shocked we got a 5 seed.
We were 1 spot from a 4.
They had us 17 overall.
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The ranke the teams from 1 to 68.
We were ranked 17. FSU 14
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Shocked we got a 5 seed.
17th on the S curve
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Clark Kellogg just called Murray State.
Who cares ... he talking BS on TV
They have no imagination ... they have all one seeds in the finals.
They should stick to tweeting about games they do not watch ... Seth Davis is the pro at this.
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Goooo
Like your aggressive call. Not sure I would make that call, but hope you are right. If they do, program made real progress this season.
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Calling it right now. This team WILL make it at least to the Sweet 16.
We got this.
im with you as far as sweet 16, that was my thought after the Seton Hall debacle.
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Clark Kellogg picks Murray State to win
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Considering the collapse, the boys have to win 2 for the season to be a success.
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Clark Kellogg picks Murray State to win
I’d be surprised if he watched either team play this season.
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Clark Kellogg picks Murray State to win
Idiot.
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For everybody worrying, Florida State is currently ranked number 12.
We got this.
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What I know of FSU from watching them. Athletic team with length that plays great d but struggles offensively
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The two teams I was hoping to avoid early were Murray State (big name star looking to prove himself) and Florida State (physical defense with length).
We're getting both of them.
Same thoughts here. Winnable games, but definitely at the bottom of the wish list of realistic opponents.
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For everybody worrying, Florida State is currently ranked number 12.
We got this.
Ha, talk about a sign.
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Considering the collapse, the boys have to win 2 for the season to be a success.
Thanks for your opinion. I'm guessing some will agree and many will not.
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If Sacar can stay out of foul trouble, MU will be in good shape against Murray St.
Bingo!!
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Bingo!!
And Theo. Just as important
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Cheeks
Crean got chased out of town because of only one year of success in March. Of course March success defines a season.
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Thanks for your opinion. I'm guessing some will agree and many will not.
Not sure why you chose the words some and many but I can guess why. Safer to say some and some and arguably (likely?) you could reverse many and some. We’re a handful of games removed from a top 10 ranking. There are expectations by many imo
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The two teams I was hoping to avoid early were Murray State (big name star looking to prove himself) and Florida State (physical defense with length).
We're getting both of them.
I actually dreamed about this bracket. A Murray State team that is Ja Morant and not a big depth or talent after.
Florida State lets a lot of inferior teams hang due to lack of scoring (see both games against Miami with Lykes). I think if we make it to 2nd game, we will be able to hang pretty well.
Gotta win against Murray, but this isnt the Racers team that Buzz faced--not near the talent level.
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Murray State has faced just one team ranked among the Top 40 by KenPom -- Auburn -- and lost. They also lost to #59 Alabama, #54 Belmont (at home) and #113 Jacksonville State. The Racers played 18 games against sub-200 teams; MU had just 5. Murray State's best win was against Belmont in the OVC conference tourney.
A good team, sure. But we've played and beaten far better teams (Louisville, Kansas State, Wisconsin, Buffalo, Villanova, even Creighton) this season.
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Marcus
MU in a blowout on Thursday?
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Marcus
MU in a blowout on Thursday?
Give me MU by 8-9
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Give me MU by 8-9
I'd agree with this. Think the line will be somewhere around 6-8 points. Would love to see us completely shut down Morant, take Murray State out of the game from the tip and win by 15+.
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Marcus
You think line will be MU minus 6-8?
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Marcus
You think line will be MU minus 6-8?
The line is MU -4.5 some places, -5 others
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I'd expect Morant to get his, but I think Sacar can make it a very inefficient night for him. Key for us is that their three big men cannot shoot the three. They will have 2 of them out there at almost any given time which means our big guys can stay close to the rim and help.
In fact, they don't shoot the three well at all. Only 4 guys even capable of hitting the three, one of which makes less than 1 per game and 2 of which shoot around 33%. Make sure someone is in Tevin Brown's pocket and then pack the lane. Murray State lives in the paint which I think we can shut down.
I'm more worried about our offense going AWOL as it occasionally has this season, then I am about slowing the Racers down.
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Cheeks
Crean got chased out of town because of only one year of success in March. Of course March success defines a season.
Crean got chased out of town? News to me. Should have secured that $100k check for the soccer stadium before we did that.
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I'd expect Morant to get his, but I think Sacar can make it a very inefficient night for him. Key for us is that their three big men cannot shoot the three. They will have 2 of them out there at almost any given time which means our big guys can stay close to the rim and help.
In fact, they don't shoot the three well at all. Only 4 guys even capable of hitting the three, one of which makes less than 1 per game and 2 of which shoot around 33%. Make sure someone is in Tevin Brown's pocket and then pack the lane. Murray State lives in the paint which I think we can shut down.
I'm more worried about our offense going AWOL as it occasionally has this season, then I am about slowing the Racers down.
The biggest obstacle to marquette is marquette in this matchup. Feels like the St Johns game again. Sacar needs to frustrate Morant. But then interior needs to be big on 2pt defense.
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Cheeks
Crean got chased out of town because of only one year of success in March. Of course March success defines a season.
Crean didn't get chased out of town.
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Cheeks
Awful lot of pressure from Dick Strong to perform better in March. Came to a head with Stanford loss.
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I thought Markus had bad turnover games, but just went thru Morant’s games. He is really turnover prone, he had 10 in a loss to Auburn. Even against the poor OVC teams, he had games almost as bad.
His game stats are a double-double, but he was not playing against BE quality teams. He can fly down the court though and some of his dunks are very, very impressive.
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This is a great region for Marquette. Get past Murray State and it's wide open to the Final Four.
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Murray State lives in the paint which I think we can shut down.
I was scanning through their opponents this year when I was preparing my preview for them on Cracked Sidewalks. They played only 4 teams all season with top-100 2PFG% defense and zero in the top-40. They haven't had to deal with anyone remotely like Theo John or Ed Morrow. They're going to score some points & Morant is going to put up numbers, but I don't see how they stop our offense. I think this will be a relatively comfortable win. The second round, on the other hand...let's just say I'll be rooting for Vermont.
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Cheeks
Awful lot of pressure from Dick Strong to perform better in March. Came to a head with Stanford loss.
MU had a very good recruiting class coming in with Tyshawn Taylor who then went to Kansas, along with the three Amigos playing. Crean was very safe per my old colleagues that were still there. Dick Strong has been long gone and the department doing just fine.
We will have to agree to disagree.
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Clark Kellogg just called Murray State.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/cdb579e86fd7c1ef8f21f4507655a7c3/tumblr_p2zt5qxdmG1u1ljrzo2_500.gif)
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Crean didn't get chased out of town.
Maybe the "town" being referred to is Bloomington IN?
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Cheeks
We are talking Crean, not now. Crean got his ass chewed out and reached out to IU. Of course he was not getting sacked, but the sugar daddy busted his butt hard. Hence, him running for the hills.
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What I know of FSU from watching them. Athletic team with length that plays great d but struggles offensively
Sounds like south Carolina 2 years ago.
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Can somebody break down MS besides Ja. I have no idea what they have.
Bigs?
3 ball threat?
Is ja mostly making money at the rim or does he have range from deep?
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Can somebody break down MS besides Ja. I have no idea what they have.
Bigs?
3 ball threat?
Is ja mostly making money at the rim or does he have range from deep?
Did you read this thread at all?
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Maybe the "town" being referred to is Bloomington IN?
That is how I read it, actually, because I knew he didn't get chased out of Milwaukee.
I just saw Fla State beat Buzz in the ACC tournament. Very tough, hard-playing team with a couple of big-play guys. They crash the boards. Will be a heck of a test.
But that's how it's supposed to be when a 4 plays a 5. It's not supposed to be an easy game.
Murray State ... I haven't seen them play one second this season except for the Ja highlights I've seen on ESPN. Even though I'm an optimist, I'm also a bit of a worrywart (heck, I was worried about the DePaul game!), so I'm naturally worried about Murray State, too.
I just think we're overdue for some excellent play, and I'm actually quite encouraged by how we played vs. St. John's and vs. Seton Hall before the latter turned into a shyte-show. I think we're past "the worst."
Sweet 16? Sure ... I'm on board, baby!!
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Cheeks
We are talking Crean, not now. Crean got his ass chewed out and reached out to IU. Of course he was not getting sacked, but the sugar daddy busted his butt hard. Hence, him running for the hills.
He also tried to leave for Illinois and a few others...he was pretty arrogant about letting people know he wouldn't be around MU too long.
On topic...MU with a 5 seed is great. First game should be a win...one man show. Second game will be interest if it's FL St....if we play as well as we have played at our best moments this year we can beat the vast majority of the teams in the tourney this year.
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Avid
Much more to the story.
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He also tried to leave for Illinois and a few others...he was pretty arrogant about letting people know he wouldn't be around MU too long.
And Buzz was rumored to Texas A&M, Texas Tech, SMU, etc, etc, etc.
That's how they leverage more money, it's how the game is played by some. He was at MU longer than any coach in the last 40 years not named Al McGuire.
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Don’t see us beating FSU unless they do one of their March chokes.
But I like the draw of our region as a whole
Leonard Hamilton always chokes in March.
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Crean didn't get chased out of town.
March 17, 2019....
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Cheeks
Gladly buy you a beer and debate this is person.
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March 17, 2019....
Oh, I'm sorry for stating a fact. He wasn't chased out of town.
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Cheeks
Gladly buy you a beer and debate this is person.
Sure, can I bring two former high ranking athletic department officials with me that were part of his hiring and remained connected through it all. ;)
I have no doubt Strong had his opinions and I know very well he liked to throw his weight around, but the way I read your post is he was forced out of town....meaning if he didn't get the IU job he was out. And I can tell you that is simply not true. Maybe I read your post wrong, if I did I apologize. That 2008-09 team was too loaded and to many good recruits coming in that they weren't going to mess with that.
But would love to have that beer.
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Cheeks
He was not forced out by MU, nor was he in danger. Strong scared the crap out of him and he ran for “greener pastures “. The man that carried a lot of weight was not happy with his March performance and let him know it. I know that you know the facts.
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Hoos checkin' Morant, hey?
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Great. Crean talk. Way to go guys, ever think about not being fu*kfaces for once?
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Hoos checkin' Morant, hey?
Sacar and literally no one else.
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Sacar and literally no one else.
Good enough for me.
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Great. Crean talk. Way to go guys, ever think about not being fu*kfaces for once?
Could you remove your Schmitt's Gay avatar, it's offensive. Thanks
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Could you remove your Schmitt's Gay avatar, it's offensive. Thanks
This again? New tricks Jamie, come up with new tricks.
Maybe discussing the actually effing topic instead of whatever bukkake you want to take from the legacy guys on Scoop.
You're annoying and the worst. Go away again.
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PTM
Fair enough. That said, I just checked your last dozen posts and what have you added to the site? You tried running with ‘72 Dolphins with limited success.
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PTM
Fair enough. That said, I just checked your last dozen posts and what have you added to the site? You tried running with ‘72 Dolphins with limited success.
It's not going away, but I'm not debating a coach that left 12 years ago.
I also don't bother during losses. Your posting is hardly something to attribute as successful either.
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PTM
Do you think the boys go to S16 or not? Would love to hear your thoughts.
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PTM
Do you think the boys go to S16 or not? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Goose
MU beats Murray State by 9ish.
Florida State will be an issue, but it's a 4/5 matchup. Hoping Vermont can do MU a local favor, but unlikely.
FSU's length is frightening. They can easily smother Markus with Forest without giving up anything on the floor. FSU has turnover problems than MU could exploit and until the ACC tournament they've struggled on the road against quality opponents.
I think the dance ends there, but the game should be a pick 'em.
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Cheeks
Awful lot of pressure from Dick Strong to perform better in March. Came to a head with Stanford loss.
He gone. And we were better off for it.
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PTM
Solid response. Agree with all of it.
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PTM
Solid response. Agree with all of it.
Love you too
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We were 1 spot from a 4.
They had us 17 overall.
you don't say?
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Tired of this"uh oh" BS. we can beat these teams. after losing 5 of six a five seed is something I am content with. The NCAA is never easy. F*ck it. Embrace who we play. We CAN win. you don't wanna worry about losing? join the CBI or whatever the hell its called
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Tired of this"uh oh" BS. we can beat these teams. after losing 5 of six a five seed is something I am content with. The NCAA is never easy. F*ck it. Embrace who we play. We CAN win. you don't wanna worry about losing? join the CBI or whatever the hell its called
F*cking right!
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Wow - A little while ago, people were concerned we would get screwed with a bad seed. We got a five, and now everybody here is worried…
We got this.
The Thundering Herd Scoop Think!
I'm with you. I like this bracket. We make the second weekend.
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Tired of this"uh oh" BS. we can beat these teams. after losing 5 of six a five seed is something I am content with. The NCAA is never easy. F*ck it. Embrace who we play. We CAN win. you don't wanna worry about losing? join the CBI or whatever the hell its called
Spot on. We're favored in game 1 and game 2 will be close to a pick 'em. After closing with 5 losses in 6 games we should be ecstatic (and excited). As Legs would say, doable. Let's do it, already!
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Idiot.
Well, he is an Ohio State guy
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Leonard Hamilton always chokes in March.
Not last year.
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Goose
MU beats Murray State by 9ish.
Florida State will be an issue, but it's a 4/5 matchup. Hoping Vermont can do MU a local favor, but unlikely.
FSU's length is frightening. They can easily smother Markus with Forest without giving up anything on the floor. FSU has turnover problems than MU could exploit and until the ACC tournament they've struggled on the road against quality opponents.
I think the dance ends there, but the game should be a pick 'em.
Unlikely? Unlikely?!? It’s not unlikely until it’s not likely.
If you’re going to look forward to something, look forward to the Cats.
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Great. Crean talk. Way to go guys, ever think about not being fu*kfaces for once?
C'mon, PTM. It's great to get all this information we didn't know about (unless we read 100 different threads over the years about the same thing).
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Leonard Hamilton always chokes in March.
Did Dick Strong bring things to a head?
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Crash
Ask Jockey.
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PTM
Fair enough. That said, I just checked your last dozen posts and what have you added to the site? You tried running with ‘72 Dolphins with limited success.
Goose
What do you expect? PTM is one of those guys who is generally overlooked in life. insipid sums it up well.
By the way, did I miss the bukkake party?? Damn, I missed the orgies at Georgetown Prep and now this??
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Crash
Ask Jockey.
Appreciate the pub!
It's an interesting subject, but it's been beaten to death over the years. Anything and everything can be found out about Crean using "Search".
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Goose
What do you expect? PTM is one of those guys who is generally overlooked in life. insipid sums it up well.
By the way, did I miss the bukkake party?? Damn, I missed the orgies at Georgetown Prep and now this??
Weird, your PMs to me tell would tell a different story.
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Yikes, I hope there's little truth to the Dick Strong story. Running out a coach because a donor is impatient is a terrible way to run a program.
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TAMU
Crean left based off his own decision. He did not like the heat, nor did he feel it was warranted, and made decision to leave. My comment to Cheeks on Crean being chased out of town, was directed at him. My bad, that it is out there for everyone.
Again, Crean left for many reasons, but getting heat from the guy who paid a lot of bills did not help the situation. In addition, I do not believe Strong wanted Crean to leave, he just wanted him to win in a bigger way.
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Did Dick Strong bring things to a head?
Really bad visual, hey?