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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: DegenerateDish on January 10, 2019, 12:02:18 AM

Title: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: DegenerateDish on January 10, 2019, 12:02:18 AM
Lost in Howard’s night and the Hauser shot was the underrated and vastly important play by Chartouny. Creighton is up 5 with 8 seconds left, Hauser misses a 3, Chartouny gets a huge rebound, misses, gets another rebound, stays with it for the put back. By staying with it and making it at .8, instead of 1.8 was of tremendous importance. In my opinion, with over a second left, Creighton much more likely to just inbound and either assume an MU foul or clock run out.

That sequence gets lost in the shuffle, but was huge.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Cheeks on January 10, 2019, 12:04:28 AM
Lost in Howard’s night and the Hauser shot was the underrated and vastly important play by Chartouny. Creighton is up 5 with 8 seconds left, Hauser misses a 3, Chartouny gets a huge rebound, misses, gets another rebound, stays with it for the put back. By staying with it and making it at .8, instead of 1.8 was of tremendous importance. In my opinion, with over a second left, Creighton much more likely to just inbound and either assume an MU foul or clock run out.

That sequence gets lost in the shuffle, but was huge.

The refs also put time back on the clock from .6 to .8 after that make.  Also huge.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: brewcity77 on January 10, 2019, 07:36:08 AM
Agreed. It took a perfect storm for that comeback to happen, and Chartouny missing the first shot actually allowed us to win. Just crazy.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Nukem2 on January 10, 2019, 07:43:46 AM
Jays could have fouled Sam for a 2 shot foul....?
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: IrwinFletcher on January 10, 2019, 07:47:27 AM
How about this one.

Joey clearly gets a 3 but is only credited with a 2.  Unlike the Louisville game, the refs did go back and check it and gave us the point we deserved.  Needed that point as it turned out.  Still don’t understand why they never checked it in Louisville game.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: mu_eyeballs on January 10, 2019, 07:48:17 AM
I totally agree...how many players would put up the second layup with a second left.  Though ironically by making it a 3 point game Marquette would have covered the spread.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: MU82 on January 10, 2019, 08:09:51 AM
How about this one.

Joey clearly gets a 3 but is only credited with a 2.  Unlike the Louisville game, the refs did go back and check it and gave us the point we deserved.  Needed that point as it turned out.  Still don’t understand why they never checked it in Louisville game.

Great point.

I was watching at a bar with no volume and I didn't know they gave us the point until I happened to notice the scoreboard said 76-74 after a timeout.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 10, 2019, 08:22:08 AM
I don't think you can underestimate how stupid it was for Creighton to throw the long inbounds pass and not make contact with the ball.  Even if the pass gets deflected by a Marquette defender, there is not an opportunity to get a shot off.  Simply throwing a jump ball in the air wins the game.  The most improbable win I have ever witnessed.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Oldgym on January 10, 2019, 10:12:30 AM
I don't think you can underestimate how stupid it was for Creighton to throw the long inbounds pass and not make contact with the ball.  Even if the pass gets deflected by a Marquette defender, there is not an opportunity to get a shot off.  Simply throwing a jump ball in the air wins the game.  The most improbable win I have ever witnessed.

This. CU might have a beef with the officiating down the stretch (bad both ways)...or the review of Sam's 3...or any number of things.  But none of that would be remembered if...

Reminds me a little of the end of the game vs Bucky in 2015, where we got it right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLY9abaP6WI
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Cheeks on January 10, 2019, 10:30:01 AM
Jays could have fouled Sam for a 2 shot foul....?

Foul someone else under the basket for a 2 shot foul.  Grab a jersey, whatever.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: LloydsLegs on January 10, 2019, 10:33:20 AM
Just have all of your players standing near the free throw line, so no chance to foul on a 3.  Roll the ball towards them, or pass the ball to the player guarding the inbounds.  Just have it touched inside the arc.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2019, 10:39:52 AM
Just have all of your players standing near the free throw line, so no chance to foul on a 3.  Roll the ball towards them, or pass the ball to the player guarding the inbounds.  Just have it touched inside the arc.

Just keep bouncing it off the player guarding the inbound and out of bounds a couple of times. 
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 10, 2019, 10:41:08 AM
I don't think you can underestimate how stupid it was for Creighton to throw the long inbounds pass and not make contact with the ball.  Even if the pass gets deflected by a Marquette defender, there is not an opportunity to get a shot off.  Simply throwing a jump ball in the air wins the game.  The most improbable win I have ever witnessed.

I wonder how many coaches use these .08 video  as a teaching tool.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: BM1090 on January 10, 2019, 11:50:10 AM
Foul someone else under the basket for a 2 shot foul.  Grab a jersey, whatever.

Run the risk of an intentional foul before the inbounds and 2 shots and the ball
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: jsglow on January 10, 2019, 11:52:19 AM
It was all a 1 in 1,000,000 situation.  Actually, the odds probably weren't that good.

Over on the Creighton board they're calling for Mac's job.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: MUEng92 on January 10, 2019, 12:26:40 PM
The inbounder could have just handed the ball to Theo and time would have run out without a shot.
Title: Re: Play To Setup The Play
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 10, 2019, 08:00:21 PM
Was the clock change to .6 legit? Should it have been more or less?