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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: silverback on December 10, 2018, 03:03:55 PM
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Who can read lips around here? Does Joey say
https://mobile.twitter.com/johnlewinski/status/1071928326196002818
“He (punched, hit or grabbed) my f%#^ing nuts?!”
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Yes.
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It was more like slapped.
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It was more like slapped.
"Slap of two"
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Looked like he "copped a feel"
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I think he said something along the lines of "he just assaulted me who do I call", Gruber or the DA?
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Looked like he "copped a feel"
Willie. This is your best post on Scoop ever. Well done.
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"Slap of two"
This was better tho
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This was better tho
Yes. But relative to Mazzos burger's normal posts...I'm still in shock.
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Brad Davison... nh?
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Yes. But relative to Mazzos burger's normal posts...I'm still in shock.
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Brad Davison... nh?
Still going with this look, hey?
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Maebee just givin' a low 5, hey?
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Yes. But relative to Mazzos burger's normal posts...I'm still in shock.
Nothing brings out Mazos quite like penis talk.
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People have to much time on their hands.
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People have to much time on their hands.
Too vs. to
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People have to much time on their hands.
Well they gotta find something to do with the other 23 hours of the day when their hands aren't occupied.....
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Too vs. to
Coming from someone who doesn't know how to spell the word "this".
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Too, to, or two? In this case i think two is appropriate.
Only my opinion but i dont think he was attempting to punch him in the nads. Jmho but it looked like he was trying to grab him to either try to get a moving leg/ leaning in screen offensive foul or to swing/pull himself around the screen to stay in contact with Howard.
Personally i think a nh move, however any time ur hand is that close to another guys schwantz you gotta wonder.
Prolly a sexual assault on a minor anywhere else but on a basketball court.
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Joey isn't a minor.
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Too, to, or two? In this case i think two is appropriate.
Only my opinion but i dont think he was attempting to punch him in the nads. Jmho but it looked like he was trying to grab him to either try to get a moving leg/ leaning in screen offensive foul or to swing/pull himself around the screen to stay in contact with Howard.
Personally i think a nh move, however any time ur hand is that close to another guys schwantz you gotta wonder.
Prolly a sexual assault on a minor anywhere else but on a basketball court.
Come on man. I've played seen a looooooooot of basketball and never in my life have I seen someone's arm swing between a guy's leg as they are screening the person.
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Come on man. I've played seen a looooooooot of basketball and never in my life have I seen someone's arm swing between a guy's leg as they are screening the person.
I actually agree with sand. I was going to post the same thing. I think Floppy had to make a hard turn at full speed to keep up with Howard so he was going to leverage Joey to help. I haven’t seen the between the legs move but you will see the player grab the screener in many instances.
Also if you watch replay his left hand is open to the right and he was lower than you would expect for a nut shot so it looks like he is planning to grab his leg pull himself around and either get the moving screen call or keep up with howard. He miss judge and punch Joey. Based on his reaction he was thinking the ref called moving screen.
I saw this play as one the commentators would say was a heady move. “Did you see how Floppy grabbed Joey’s leg and pulled it towards himself to make it look like the screener moved. Neither ref could see because he was between his legs. That is just s smart basketball play”
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^^^ dude’s name is BallBoy
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I actually agree with sand. I was going to post the same thing. I think Floppy had to make a hard turn at full speed to keep up with Howard so he was going to leverage Joey to help. I haven’t seen the between the legs move but you will see the player grab the screener in many instances.
Also if you watch replay his left hand is open to the right and he was lower than you would expect for a nut shot so it looks like he is planning to grab his leg pull himself around and either get the moving screen call or keep up with howard. He miss judge and punch Joey. Based on his reaction he was thinking the ref called moving screen.
I saw this play as one the commentators would say was a heady move. “Did you see how Floppy grabbed Joey’s leg and pulled it towards himself to make it look like the screener moved. Neither ref could see because he was between his legs. That is just s smart basketball play”
I'll grant you this, you are terrible at physics
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^^^ dude’s name is BallBoy
Hysterical under the circumstances.
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I have to imagine TAMU is a blast at cock tail parties.
Hope teal is not needed.
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Hysterical under the circumstances.
All I know is that you guys are spending way too much time looking at Joey's crotch.
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I have to imagine TAMU is a blast at cock tail parties.
Your Freudian Slip is showing.
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Your Freudian Slip is showing.
Only freudian if it was freudian
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All I know is that you guys are spending way too much time looking at Joey's crotch.
Indeed. I was at the game and had no clue what happened until after the game. So, my son showed me the incident in slow mo. Being as objective as I could be, I say it was intentional. Davison keeps his left arm in a strange position way to long, very unnatural move. Not a basketball move. Stopped pumping his left arm way in advance. If he was trying to hold or hook, it would not have set his arm and held it so far in advance.
This analysis/thread sounds like some Seinfeld episode.
Anyway, time to move onto better subjects than a crotch shot that apparently missed its target.
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In a court of law, no way you prove that was intentional.
In the court of college basketball message board, no way that isn't intentional.
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(https://i.imgur.com/a08fqHP.gif)
Is that the footlong?
And then some....
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Only freudian if it was freudian
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/992/407/776.jpg)
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Jeff Potrykus @jaypo1961
2h2 hours ago
FWIW: We talked to #Badgers guard Brad Davison today. Said he told Joey Hauser he was sorry for the contact to his groin in OT. Insisted that despite how it might have looked on video, he wasn't trying to hit him there or anywhere.
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Jeff Potrykus @jaypo1961
2h2 hours ago
FWIW: We talked to #Badgers guard Brad Davison today. Said he told Joey Hauser he was sorry for the contact to his groin in OT. Insisted that despite how it might have looked on video, he wasn't trying to hit him there or anywhere.
Maybe the only sports journalist in the world that is worse than Oates.
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Brad Davison... nh?
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Personally i think a nh move, however any time ur hand is that close to another guys schwantz you gotta wonder.
Prolly a sexual assault on a minor anywhere else but on a basketball court.
FFS, and I can't believe i actually have to ask this question but, do either of you think that an official representative of MUBB i.e. player, coach, staff, university employee, student manager, etc. wouldn't be disciplined for using "no homo" in social media or during an interview? If they would, why do you think they would? If they wouldn't, why not?
I honestly don't know the answer - maybe someone closer to the program than I can answer (Chick, Glow, Daddy, Goose, Neilson, etc...any insight?).
My assumption is that the person associated with MUBB would be disciplined because MUBB, and MU, does not want to be associated with bigoted and hateful messaging and/or rhetoric. Like it or not, Scoop is visited by recruits, parents, players and prospective students and therefore is reflective of the greater Marquette community. IMO we should not allow this type of bigoted and hateful rhetoric to go unchecked within our community.
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Consider the sources. Their characters were revealed a long time ago.
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Funny stuff. You guys have apparantly been busy n out fighting the PC war while all the MU player tweets have been posted over the years? Well welcome back, how is the war going. It must be hard, nh.
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Nag, if I were you I’d worry about relevant topical discussion re: bball such as posts making arguments for why players are going to transfer out and naming those players (with no factual foundation for the claim)...
Thankfully, I’m not you and our minds work differently. So, if you want to make believe that certain things are “bigoted” and “hateful”, even though they’re not, good luck to ya, try to keep your eyes dry bub.
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Nag, if I were you I’d worry about relevant topical discussion re: bball such as posts making arguments for why players are going to transfer out and naming those players (with no factual foundation for the claim)...
Thankfully, I’m not you and our minds work differently. So, if you want to make believe that certain things are “bigoted” and “hateful”, even though they’re not, good luck to ya, try to keep your eyes dry bub.
Funny stuff. You guys have apparantly been busy n out fighting the PC war while all the MU player tweets have been posted over the years? Well welcome back, how is the war going. It must be hard, nh.
Neither one of you answered the question....do you think someone officially associated with MUBB (player or staff) would be disciplined for using "no homo" on social media or in an interview? and why do you thing they would/wouldn't?
Instead, you both doubled down that you believe 'no homo' is not a homophobic phrase. Or, you know it is and you don't care. I think you should explain why.
There are plenty of communities that are perfectly accepting of bigoted references - i'm sure there is a proud boys facebook page for you - but i will call out hate in any community i'm involved with. Again, if you can explain why 'no homo' isn't hateful/bigotry i'd be happy to stop making this a point of discomfort for you.
Edit: Mods ban me if 'no homo' is not considered a homophobic slur, if that's the case I clearly need to find another community.
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Go talk to your shrink about it, Nags
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Go talk to your shrink about it, Nags
Would someone associated with MUBB be disciplined for using 'no homo'?
The more you resort to high school retorts, vs. answering the question, the more i know that you know the answer is 'yes' and the more i realize you know the reason why the answer is 'yes'
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Would someone associated with MUBB be disciplined for using 'no homo'?
Would someone associated with MUBB be disciplined for publicly criticizing Wojo or the performance of any of the players?
1.Yes
2.So?
People associated with MUBB have restrictions on their speech/jokes etc., that members of Scoop don't. And that's OK.
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Would someone associated with MUBB be disciplined for publicly criticizing Wojo or the performance of any of the players?
1.Yes
2.So?
People associated with MUBB have restrictions on their speech/jokes etc., that members of Scoop don't. And that's OK.
We're dodging the question as to whether or not bigoted rhetoric is acceptable by folks here. Criticizing Wojo or a player for his performance can be done without using slurs.
"Marcus turns the ball over too much because he plays hero ball and forces the issue" is MUCH different than "Marcus needs to stop monkeying around with the ball". The latter, especially with repeated intent, is clearly unacceptable and the user perpetuating this language would be chastised. Or at least i would've assumed so before trying to put an end to the whole 'no homo' thing.
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We're dodging the question as to whether or not bigoted rhetoric is acceptable by folks here. Criticizing Wojo or a player for his performance can be done without using slurs.
"Marcus turns the ball over too much because he plays hero ball and forces the issue" is MUCH different than "Marcus needs to stop monkeying around with the ball". The latter, especially with repeated intent, is clearly unacceptable and the user perpetuating this language would be chastised. Or at least i would've assumed so before trying to put an end to the whole 'no homo' thing.
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The Scoop rules are pretty clear on this:
- Respect other posters. Insults, and flames will not be tolerated
- Use of profanity, racist or sexist comments prohibited
Previous threads have established the use of the NH slur is an insult to members of the Scoop community. That slur and the other sexist comments we see in here are obviously against Scoop rules. It is absolutely no different than using the N word in a derisive way and should be treated as such.
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In a court of law, no way you prove that was intentional.
In the court of college basketball message board, no way that isn't intentional.
How about the title IX courts. Joey goes to the administration claiming he was sexually assaulted. MU asks Joey do you have proof. Joey says , "Yeah, here is the video. MU goes to UW and ask them to suspend Brad until an investigation is completed.
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The Scoop rules are pretty clear on this:
Previous threads have established the use of the NH slur is an insult to members of the Scoop community. That slur and the other sexist comments we see in here are obviously against Scoop rules. It is absolutely no different than using the N word in a derisive way and should be treated as such.
That’s ridiculous.
And a mod has posted that it’s not what you claim.
BTW, do any of you #TheRighteousHypocrites use anti-animal phrases? Shame on you!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/world/peta-mocked-for-suggesting-animal-friendly-alternatives-to-popular-phrases-a4009141.html%3Famp
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That’s ridiculous.
And a mod has posted that it’s not what you claim.
A mod doesn't have to. A user of this forum did. So every time you use that slur, you are attacking members on this site.
Also, you're trying to move the goalposts to distract from your own homophobic behavior. If you don't want to be labeled a bigot, it's simple. Stop posting bigoted comments.
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A mod doesn't have to. A user of this forum did. So every time you use that slur, you are attacking members on this site.
Also, you're trying to move the goalposts to distract from your own homophobic behavior. If you don't want to be labeled a bigot, it's simple. Stop posting bigoted comments.
Your dumb posts like this offend me. Please stop attacking me!
I’m not a bigot and am not posting bigoted comments. Your mind is simply warped.
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Your dumb posts like this offend me. Please stop attacking me!
I’m not a bigot and am not posting bigoted comments. Your mind is simply warped.
I'll stop pointing out your bigoted comments when you stop making bigoted comments.
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I'll stop pointing out your bigoted comments when you stop making bigoted comments.
^^^ ban dis guy
OK, but crying on a message board about silly things ain’t gone getcha much.
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^^^ ban dis guy
OK, but crying on a message board about silly things ain’t gone getcha much.
Not looking for much. You know how members on this site perceive your use of the homophobic slur "NH". You know it directly impacts members on this site. I know you're not stupid, so your continued use of it indicates you have no problem being perceived as a bigot. And as long as you act that way, I'll point out said behavior. It's up to you.
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Not looking for much. You know how members on this site perceive your use of the homophobic slur "NH". You know it directly impacts members on this site. I know you're not stupid, so your continued use of it indicates you have no problem being perceived as a bigot. And as long as you act that way, I'll point out said behavior. It's up to you.
Your eff’d up nonsensical perception doesn’t make your libelous rants OK. There’s nothing homophobic or bigoted here. Take a deep breath and focus on reality and meaningful matters.
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Jay Bee
You should know by now that exchanging comments with some posters on here is a complete waste of time. "Some" posters accept anything said on here from "some" posters, and will attack anyone else over smallest comment.
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Jay Bee
You should know by know that exchanging comments with some posters on here is a complete waste of time. "Some" posters accept anything said on here from "some" posters, and will attack anyone else over smallest comment.
True indeed; I will stop conversing with brew on this thread and simply pray for him.
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Your eff’d up nonsensical perception doesn’t make your libelous rants OK. There’s nothing homophobic or bigoted here. Take a deep breath and focus on reality and meaningful matters.
If there is nothing wrong with the phrase, why does the NBA fine players for using it? Why would a MUBB player/coach be disciplined for it?
The "i'm not a bigot but i'm continuing to use a bigoted phrase" defense is basically my grandfather believing that as long as he says "i'm not a racist, but" he could say whatever he wanted about minorities after.
Nobody is saying you should stop being a jack*ss, just stop using bigoted rhetoric.
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Nobody is saying you should stop being a jack*ss, just stop using bigoted rhetoric.
Well actually...ha ha.
BJ is a homophobe and a misogynist. But, he is proud of it, and nothing you or anyone else says is gong to change him. I'm not saying you aren't right to call it out, I'm just saying he sees nothing wrong with his hate and isn't going to change. My grandmother, in addition to the N word, like to use the term "darkies". She didn't see anything wrong with it either, though she never graduated past 5th grade.
Unless the mods put a stop to it--and they have already weighed in otherwise--the best option is to place the sad little snowflake on ignore. He can regale the remaining like-minded community members with his tales of paid escorts and lack of actual relationships.
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All a matter of perception. It could be easily said that u would have been better off spend the last 5 minutes of ur life doing something that would have bettered the lives of you family, urself, or anyone else instead of telling someone else what they should be doing??
The faux outrage or the real out rage of the smallest things in todays world is a joke. While some spend their lives sooo mad it does not go unappreciated by those of us laughing at you.
Bottom line go pontificate to someone else, some where else.
Can we plz have a cry baby free snowflake free board?
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Trying to have a thread on the game and a nut grab and the pc police has to ruin everything every time. How about instead of trying to tell someone what to say just shut the F up?
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All a matter of perception. It could be easily said that u would have been better off spend the last 5 minutes of ur life doing something that would have bettered the lives of you family, urself, or anyone else instead of telling someone else what they should be doing??
Combating bigotry is making the lives of my family, myself, and other people better.
Can we plz have a cry baby free snowflake free board?
I would like that, but people like you and JB get all whiny and butthurt when your bigotry is called out. Tell you what, if you stop with the bigoted comments, we'll stop giving you reasons to be crybabies.
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Brew
The saying butthurt offends me. Please stop using that phrase on here.
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“I’m making the lives of my family & friends better by calling you butthurt, u bigot!” — brewcity77
#TheRighteousHypocrites
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JayBee
My guess is, that term must have personal back story to Brew. Seems to use it quite a bit.
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/homo
homo
[hoh-moh]
ExamplesWord Origin
noun, plural ho·mos. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive.
a contemptuous term used to refer to a homosexual, especially a male homosexual.
I don't think theres an argument that this isn't an offensive term used to disparage a specific group of people.
I do agree about butthurt though. Not the right word to be using especially given the context.
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/homo
I don't think theres an argument that this isn't an offensive term used to disparage a specific group of people.
I do agree about butthurt though. Not the right word to be using especially given the context.
People are crying about “nh”, not the typing of the word you’re referencing, btw
The thing is, #TheRighteousHypocrites have different rules for different people... and most certainly themselves. brewcity77 has used “butthurt” multiple times over the years, dating back many years.
I’m not going to complain about him simply using that word (although doing so would benefit my friends & family, right?)... but it is another example of why I don’t concern myself with warped, we minds who complain about the most bizarre sheeeit.
Super strange and highly hypocritical.
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People are crying about “nh”, not the typing of the word you’re referencing, btw
And what does the h in "nh" stand for?
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TAMU
I do find it funny that brew's "crew" would never mention the butthurt, yet support him on the nh topic. Seriously, there are a bunch of hypocrites on this site. Some like to argue/jab with anyone that does not agree with them. Those folks lose credibility in my eyes big time.
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TAMU
I do find it funny that brew's "crew" would never mention the butthurt, yet support him on the nh topic. Seriously, there are a bunch of hypocrites on this site. Some like to argue/jab with anyone that does not agree with them. Those folks lose credibility in my eyes big time.
Respectfully Goose, the next human being I meet who isn't a hypocrite will be the first one.We all fall short. That's why it's important to own it when we do and to forgive others when they own it as well.
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TAMU
Cop out. You like Brew and accept his butthurt and support his not liking when things are politically correct. It really is a joke.
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I’m not going to complain about him simply using that word (although doing so would benefit my friends & family, right?)... but it is another example of why I don’t concern myself with warped, we minds who complain about the most bizarre sheeeit.
wee vs. we
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TAMU
Cop out. You like Brew and accept his butthurt and support his not liking when things are politically correct. It really is a joke.
How did I accept his butthurt? (Never thought I would type that sentence). I agreed that it was wrong and not a word that should be used. I trust that Brew will own it. If he doesn't, I will call him on it.
I don't much care when people aren't politically correct (I assume that's what you meant to type). We all say, do, and think offensive and insensitive things from time to time, most of us on a daily basis. Most of it is unintentional, some of it is intentional but we honestly don't realize the impact that it has, and very little of it is done intentionally to harm another person (but it does happen). That doesn't make it right, it just makes it human.
What tells me more about a person is how do they react when someone tells them "hey, what you said/did offended me, or upset me, or made me feel uncomfortable." Does the person react with concern for the other human being? Or are they dismissive and belittle them or make them feel bad for being offended?
We are human. Humans make mistakes. I tend not to judge people on their mistakes but how they respond to them. And how they respond to others who make mistakes.
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How did I accept his butthurt? (Never thought I would type that sentence). I agreed that it was wrong and not a word that should be used. I trust that Brew will own it. If he doesn't, I will call him on it.
I don't much care when people aren't politically correct (I assume that's what you meant to type). We all say, do, and think offensive and insensitive things from time to time, most of us on a daily basis. Most of it is unintentional, some of it is intentional but we honestly don't realize the impact that it has, and very little of it is done intentionally to harm another person (but it does happen). That doesn't make it right, it just makes it human.
What tells me more about a person is how do they react when someone tells them "hey, what you said/did offended me, or upset me, or made me feel uncomfortable." Does the person react with concern for the other human being? Or are they dismissive and belittle them or make them feel bad for being offended?
We are human. Humans make mistakes. I tend not to judge people on their mistakes but how they respond to them. And how they respond to others who make mistakes.
How can it be possible that I am in before the lock???
TAMU wins the internet for today.
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As I was saying.... the PC police come on and feel the need to throw around their perceived superiority. The academics and people in the press have long been loathed for this. But they cannot help themselves for they see it as their mission to show other their wisdom and superiority.
A simple string on a play in a basketball game that possibly involved a testicle or two devolves into this when the intellectuals antennii perk up over a particular word. Hypocrisy be damned rightousness must be pursued.
Thanks for ruining another thread, cant believe mu82 hasnt chimed in with his arrogance.
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Is this thread why we can't have nice things?
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As I was saying.... the PC police come on and feel the need to throw around their perceived superiority. The academics and people in the press have long been loathed for this. But they cannot help themselves for they see it as their mission to show other their wisdom and superiority.
A simple string on a play in a basketball game that possibly involved a testicle or two devolves into this when the intellectuals antennii perk up over a particular word. Hypocrisy be damned rightousness must be pursued.
Thanks for ruining another thread, cant believe mu82 hasnt chimed in with his arrogance.
I haven't been around in a while, it seems a schism has opened up here.
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#HumorKillers
It's much more fun (and healthy) to laugh than to be offended. Even when it's at one's own expense.
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Merry Christmas to All and enjoy all the Celebrating.
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Brew83
It is a small, but vocal, group that gets offended. This is a ball forum and should be fun. Over past couple of years, the fun and laughs have been missing. Truthfully, barring something off the wall, I could not be offended on here. Plenty of comments/jokes I do not think are funny, but never would single someone out.
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Brew83
It is a small, but vocal, group that gets offended. This is a ball forum and should be fun. Over past couple of years, the fun and laughs have been missing. Truthfully, barring something off the wall, I could not be offended on here. Plenty of comments/jokes I do not think are funny, but never would single someone out.
That's what I'm sayin' Goose. It's (mostly) all in good fun, and I'm sure it's not (usually) meant to offend. I do miss some of the humor.
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Maybe you get butthurt when you take a poop that dont stink, aina?
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#HumorKillers
It's much more fun (and healthy) to laugh than to be offended. Even when it's at one's own expense.
Actually i believe BrewCity83 won the internet for the day, bravo bravo bravissimo
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Maybe you get butthurt when you take a poop that dont stink, aina?
Ewe got it all goin' on tonight, bro. Musta caught sum afternoon delight, aina?
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brewcity77's favorite TV personality??
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/msnbc-host-mika-brzezinski-apologizes-mike-pompeo-butt-boy-slam
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brewcity77's favorite TV personality??
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/msnbc-host-mika-brzezinski-apologizes-mike-pompeo-butt-boy-slam
So she apologized to the gay community and (WTF?) Dick Durbin but not to Secretary Pompeo. Classy one, that Mika.
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JayBee
I am sure he, and others, are big Mika fans. I feel sorry for Joe Scarborough starting every day with her attitude.
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Is this thread why we can't have nice things?
All the threads are why we can't have nice things.
And no way this gets to a 5th page before the lock
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One post closer to page 5
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IBTL
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Brew
The saying butthurt offends me. Please stop using that phrase on here.
I have no problem avoiding it in the future, though I hope you are just as vociferous when people use the phrase snowflake, because both mean someone who is easily offended.
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Once again, we have reduced ourselves to snowflakes and broflakes.
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on one side we have JB, Goose, Mr. Sand, Lenny's, and 4ever arguing vehemently that they should be able to openly mock homosexuals. on the other side we have 77 who *checks thread* used a phrase once and agreed not to use it again.
seems like the christians bigots have the moral high ground here
y'all are spending a ton of energy defending using the word "homo". i mean in a totally non homophobic way like when i use "Nigg.....never mind i understand now
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And no way this gets to a 5th page before the lock
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on one side we have JB, Goose, Mr. Sand, Lenny's, and 4ever arguing vehemently that they should be able to openly mock homosexuals. on the other side we have 77 who *checks thread* used a phrase once and agreed not to use it again.
seems like the christians bigots have the moral high ground here
y'all are spending a ton of energy defending using the word "homo". i mean in a totally non homophobic way like when i use "Nigg.....never mind i understand now
You made a really dumb comment claiming that anything that is off limits for someone at MUBB to say should be off limits for someone on Scoop to say. I just pointed out how dumb your comment was and gave a couple (could have given many more) examples of why it was dumb.
Please don't misconstrue my use of the term "dumb" as a slur against people unable to speak. I mean "dumb" in the colloquial "not too smart" sense. Also please note that (unlike you) I'm not judging you or calling you hurtful names without knowing who you are. I fully understand that just because you said something that is verifiably dumb it doesn't mean that you are dumb. You may, in fact, be anything but.
I'll let you now get back to judging others you don't know - it seems to fill a void, give you satisfaction and/or make you happy.
Merry Christmas!
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Jay Bee
You should know by now that exchanging comments with some posters on here is a complete waste of time. "Some" posters accept anything said on here from "some" posters, and will attack anyone else over smallest comment.
It’s often not what is said, but who says the what.
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It’s often not what is said, but who says the what.
Let freedom ring, aina?
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Inb4 lock, somehow.
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nags
Another guy that does not read my posts. You are flat out wrong on saying I am in favor of mocking anyone. I jumped into conversation when brew used his extremely offensive language, yet again. Another example of someone jumping the gun and taking sides. brew using butthurt should not be accepted on here. Funny thing, I am pretty sure he, and his posse, has used that term directly towards me and no one said a thing.
I simply believe that there are many hypocrites and phonies out there. brew can use offensive language, and his posse ignores it. Someone else says something, and all he’ll breaks out.
Again, please read my posts before commenting on them or me. Part of the problem on here is the premature, or factually inaccurate, attacks. Take your time and read before tossing out unsubstantiated comments or insults.
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Lenny
There is a faction on here that just want to attack. I state on a thread that UW is not a very good team, and I get hammered for bashing MU. Some on here, sadly more than before, look to attack. I come on here to talk/read ball and talk to my internet buddies. Seems like a faction use Scoop to preach their social/political crap.
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Goose
I'm sorry to have offended you and will refrain from the use of the phrase in the future. Please pardon me for finding some irony in a situation where someone is offended by a term that means easily offended. I hope you are just as vociferous when people use the term snowflake, which has virtually the same meaning. And I truly wish you had the same feelings when people like JB knowingly use homophobic slurs that impact other members of the Scoop community.
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Im not aware of any gay Marquette fans.
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Im not aware of any gay Marquette fans.
Then you aren't paying attention. D'Lo Brown came out on the site the last time this topic came up.
4.5% of the population identifies as LGBTQ so the idea that there aren't LGBTQ users on this site or haven't been LGBTQ basketball players at Marquette is frankly pretty ridiculous.
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nags
Another guy that does not read my posts. You are flat out wrong on saying I am in favor of mocking anyone. I jumped into conversation when brew used his extremely offensive language, yet again. Another example of someone jumping the gun and taking sides. brew using butthurt should not be accepted on here. Funny thing, I am pretty sure he, and his posse, has used that term directly towards me and no one said a thing.
I simply believe that there are many hypocrites and phonies out there. brew can use offensive language, and his posse ignores it. Someone else says something, and all he’ll breaks out.
Again, please read my posts before commenting on them or me. Part of the problem on here is the premature, or factually inaccurate, attacks. Take your time and read before tossing out unsubstantiated comments or insults.
Solid point. I was reacting to the rallying to support the use of the 'no homo'.....or maybe the passive acceptance of bigotry.
There is a lot of energy here (not in your specific post here but in the previous 75ish posts) to avoid the very basic question of why it's OK to let someone repeatedly use the phrase 'no homo' but it wouldn't be OK to use other slurs. As i pointed out earlier if someone repeatedly said "Markus needs to stop monkeying around with the ball" it would be far from OK, if someone repeatedly said "Wojo acts like a retard in his huddles" it would be far from OK i.e. rightfully not allowed.....but somehow referring to a person or act as a 'homo' is totally fine and even defendable. It wouldn't be allowed in the vast number of public forums we all interact in on a daily basis (work, kids school, etc.) so it is difficult to understand why it is accepted here.
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Solid point. I was reacting to the rallying to support the use of the 'no homo'.....or maybe the passive acceptance of bigotry.
There is a lot of energy here (not in your specific post here but in the previous 75ish posts) to avoid the very basic question of why it's OK to let someone repeatedly use the phrase 'no homo' but it wouldn't be OK to use other slurs. As i pointed out earlier if someone repeatedly said "Markus needs to stop monkeying around with the ball" it would be far from OK, if someone repeatedly said "Wojo acts like a retard in his huddles" it would be far from OK i.e. rightfully not allowed.....but somehow referring to a person or act as a 'homo' is totally fine and even defendable. It wouldn't be allowed in the vast number of public forums we all interact in on a daily basis (work, kids school, etc.) so it is difficult to understand why it is accepted here.
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We all know this isn't okay in society at large. That's a change from the past, but it's where we are now. Other terms and phrases have gone from acceptable to unacceptable in society before. I'm not sure why this site & some of its users are so intent on hanging on to this bigoted & homophobic phrase.
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I see saying “nh” similar to saying “that’s what she said”, “pardon the pun”, “ooops, that came out wrong (nh)”, “uhh, I don’t mean that literally”. The idea that it’s homophobic or an attack on people or homosexuality is created in some of your own minds.
So when Lebron said, “move that mic...(you’re) bout to put it on my mouth nh”, (And wasn’t fined), he didn’t add, “Bc if I meant that if I was gay I’d be an awful person”... but some of you want to create that.
The reality is something like calling people “whiny and butthurt” IS implying gays are weak and into weird @nal sex. So, that’s brewcity77’s go to saying for many years. Maybe he thinks it implies something else? I don’t care that he uses that term often and don’t think he truly thinks so lowly of gays as it appears, but I do care he’s on his high horse about something not homophobic while also calling people butthurt.
#TheRighteousHypocrites are not principled. They create rules based on their feelings of the moment and oddly think it’s a great social action they’re undertaking... yet utter homophobic stuff in the next sentence.
Take care of your own biz if this is so important to you. Stop worrying about others using a common saying.
Your words of righteousness mean nothing. It’s a sham.
You come to talk trash about how good they'll be in the NBA then get butt hurt when someone calls you on your school's NBA history? Welcome to the internet. Maybe if you stopped trolling you wouldn't have these problems.
Do we really have an idiot troll trying to say Gasser is better than Blue? No honest Wisconsin fan would take Gasser over Blue at any point of their careers. Anyone saying otherwise is still just butthurt that Blue turned his back on UW to go to Marquette.
That's where my last paragraph comes in. It's the Internet, haters gonna hate, and you can't get butthurt when they do.
Anyone not realizing what CBB is doing here needs to take a long look in the mirror. A huge section of this board seems to revel in trolling Chicos, then act like butthurt babies when he gives it back to him. Heaven forfend what goes around actually come back around...
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Im not aware of any gay Marquette fans.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China??
So if none of "those" people are around it's ok to use derogatory language about them?
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I see saying “nh” similar to saying “that’s what she said”, “pardon the pun”, “ooops, that came out wrong (nh)”, “uhh, I don’t mean that literally”. The idea that it’s homophobic or an attack on people or homosexuality is created in some of your own minds.
Your rationalization fell apart the last time this came up and a Scoop user & member of the LGBTQ community called you on it.
The reality is something like calling people “whiny and butthurt” IS implying gays are weak and into weird @nal sex. So, that’s brewcity77’s go to saying for many years. Maybe he thinks it implies something else? I don’t care that he uses that term often and don’t think he truly thinks so lowly of gays as it appears, but I do care he’s on his high horse about something not homophobic while also calling people butthurt.
None of the definitions I saw on Urban Dictionary indicated anything about homosexuality. It refers to someone easily offended. I use the phrase as a child who's been spanked. Regardless, I've since agreed not to use it because I don't want to offend users like you and Goose who take it personal.
Take care of your own biz if this is so important to you. Stop worrying about others using a common saying.
I will. You should take your own advice and take care of your biz as well. It's not a "common saying" though as I've never heard it used outside this site and your attempts to defend it.
As you have to go out of your way to use it, knowing it offends members of this community, maybe it's time to own your actions.
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Next up on the “make life better for my family” agenda?...
+ brewcity77 will yell at people for jokingly calling me BeeJay
+ rumor is brewcity77 will no longer vote for a STUD of the game and is demanding a name change to Student Athlete of the game
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While we're at it, probably should stop using the term "slurpers."
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I simply believe that there are many hypocrites and phonies out there. brew can use offensive language, and his posse ignores it. Someone else says something, and all he’ll breaks out.
The issue that I see with this, Goose, is that Brew was called on it and won't use it again. BJ, on the other hand, is quite aware that it is a offensive homophobic phrase yet insists on using it as often as possible.
As I said way back when this came up, all he needed to do was say 'sorry, I won't use it again', but instead he chose to double down on his ignorant hate. Big difference in how each handled it, IMO.
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Any y'all who can't differentiate between the useless and entertainment value of a website vs reality, just is taking life too seriously or has their priorities misplaced. What the hell is wrong with some of you people?
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Next up on the “make life better for my family” agenda?...
+ brewcity77 will yell at people for jokingly calling me BeeJay
+ rumor is brewcity77 will no longer vote for a STUD of the game and is demanding a name change to Student Athlete of the game
Far easier to shift the goalposts than own your actions, isn't it?
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I'll let you now get back to judging others you don't know - it seems to fill a void, give you satisfaction and/or make you happy.
I'm pretty sure that given their extensive posting histories, we do know enough about them to judge their characters and intent.
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Any y'all who can't differentiate between the useless and entertainment value of a website vs reality, just is taking life too seriously or has their priorities misplaced. What the hell is wrong with some of you people?
Sorry but many of us don’t find homophobic terms to be “entertaining.” And I personally don’t think we are the ones with misplaced priorities.
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Brew83
It is a small, but vocal, group that gets offended. This is a ball forum and should be fun. Over past couple of years, the fun and laughs have been missing. Truthfully, barring something off the wall, I could not be offended on here. Plenty of comments/jokes I do not think are funny, but never would single someone out.
I enjoy laughs, fun, and jokes very much. I just reject the idea that we must utilize a slur in order to achieve those things.
For example, for awhile Jay Bee was saying (pause) whenever he made a post with an innuendo. Some of those made me laugh out loud.
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You made a really dumb comment claiming that anything that is off limits for someone at MUBB to say should be off limits for someone on Scoop to say.
I can't speak for Nags, but I don't think this is the point of what he was getting at. He wasn't saying "If MUBB staff can't say it, Scoop can't say it." I think he was trying to get at "why can't MUBB staff say it?" The answer is because it is a joke that is widely considered offensive and contains a word that is derogatory towards a specific group of people. No that doesn't mean it can't be posted on scoop, but I think it does raise the question of "should it be posted on scoop?".
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I see saying “nh” similar to saying “that’s what she said”, “pardon the pun”, “ooops, that came out wrong (nh)”, “uhh, I don’t mean that literally”. The idea that it’s homophobic or an attack on people or homosexuality is created in some of your own minds.
It literally contains the word homo. Which is a slur for a gay person. I don't believe anyone has an issue with the intent of the phrase. I love a good what's she said or when you were saying (pause).
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None of the definitions I saw on Urban Dictionary indicated anything about homosexuality. It refers to someone easily offended. I use the phrase as a child who's been spanked. Regardless, I've since agreed not to use it because I don't want to offend users like you and Goose who take it personal.
You are correct that the entomology of the word has nothing to do with homosexuality. It originated from spankings. A person would get verbally "spanked" and then be "butthurt" about it.
However, our society has started to associate it with a different meaning similar to the one Jay Bee pointed out. "You are whiny so you must like it up the butt." An unfortunate evolution of words.
Regardless, this is the important piece here. Apologizing and trying to do better in the future.
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Any y'all who can't differentiate between the useless and entertainment value of a website vs reality, just is taking life too seriously or has their priorities misplaced. What the hell is wrong with some of you people?
Eloquent, Dr Tooth.
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While we're at it, probably should stop using the term "slurpers."
Eh, the word, while disgusting, doesn't disparage a specific group of people at least that I'm aware of. It's an equal opportunity disparager.
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Any y'all who can't differentiate between the useless and entertainment value of a website vs reality, just is taking life too seriously or has their priorities misplaced. What the hell is wrong with some of you people?
You are right, scoop is both useless and entertaining. I spend too much time on here for my own good and its because of the entertainment. I just reject the idea that the entertainment needs to contain slurs in order to be entertainment.
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brew
Truthfully, I was just busting your balls (not sure is that talk is allowed on this thread or just the Grandstaff or Joey thread) and was trying to make a point. Some on here believe they can say whatever they want, but get offended by other posters comments. I do not think butthurt is offensive, just a stupid word and poor attempt to be clever. For some reason, you and some others love to use that saying when speaking to a faction of scoop. If TAMU would be in a debate with someone, you would never use that saying in a post to him. You have used it for a reason.
As for me, it would take a great deal for an internet forum to offend me. If I did find something offensive, I would probably find a new forum to frequent or use ignore option for posters who offend me. What frustrates me is some on here feel a need to jab others at all cost. nags made a point to name 4-5 posters he believes are in the same camp and think making assumptions is flat out stupid.
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Eh, the word, while disgusting, doesn't disparage a specific group of people at least that I'm aware of. It's an equal opportunity disparager.
B.S. "slupers" as used by wee willie and others is meant as an insult to male wojo fans who apparently want to give beejays to the head coach.
What happened to sticks and stones (no insult or double entendre) but words wont hurt me?
The, some of you cats are so uptight that a slurp might be just what the dr ordered.
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TSmith
brew's stating he would not use butthurt again was followed by explanation on why he uses it, and a request for me to be offended by others. If I offend someone, I would probably apologize and skip the explanation.
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Any y'all who can't differentiate between the useless and entertainment value of a website vs reality, just is taking life too seriously or has their priorities misplaced. What the hell is wrong with some of you people?
This.
In before the lock.
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brew
Truthfully, I was just busting your balls (not sure is that talk is allowed on this thread or just the Grandstaff or Joey thread) and was trying to make a point. Some on here believe they can say whatever they want, but get offended by other posters comments. I do not think butthurt is offensive, just a stupid word and poor attempt to be clever. For some reason, you and some others love to use that saying when speaking to a faction of scoop. If TAMU would be in a debate with someone, you would never use that saying in a post to him. You have used it for a reason.
I know you were, regardless, I'll avoid it. And as I knew that, I felt the explanation was apropos. Your sarcastic response drew one in return. I haven't noticed you call out snowflake in the same way, which has the same meaning. Is it because of who uses it that you treat it differently?
As for me, it would take a great deal for an internet forum to offend me. If I did find something offensive, I would probably find a new forum to frequent or use ignore option for posters who offend me. What frustrates me is some on here feel a need to jab others at all cost. nags made a point to name 4-5 posters he believes are in the same camp and think making assumptions is flat out stupid.
I don't feel a need to jab others at all cost. I have plenty of perfectly reasonable discussions with JB and most everyone else on here. I've even had reasons to agree with Ners of late. However, I will take exceptions to slurs, whomever is going to use them.
Generally, I think if it's NSFW, it's probably also not suitable for Scoop. If you wouldn't walk into the office and say it, why would you say it here? I think back to MSK's "Im not aware of any gay Marquette fans." comment and wonder why that matters at all. Does that mean he can drop the N-word if he isn't aware of any black Scoopers? Would he use that word comfortably in an all-white office setting? What about slurs for other segments of the population?
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B.S. "slupers" as used by wee willie and others is meant as an insult to male wojo fans who apparently want to give beejays to the head coach.
What happened to sticks and stones (no insult or double entendre) but words wont hurt me?
The, some of you cats are so uptight that a slurp might be just what the dr ordered.
As far as I am aware, slurper refers to anyone of any gender/race/creed/sexual orientation/etc who enjoys consuming semen. It's a disgusting insult. But it's not a slur in the way that homo, f*gg*t, dago, etc are. While I try not hurl insults myself, I tend to not be bothered by others' insults unless they are derogatory terms for specific groups of people.
In my experience words usually hurt a lot more than sticks and stones.
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I can't speak for Nags, but I don't think this is the point of what he was getting at. He wasn't saying "If MUBB staff can't say it, Scoop can't say it." I think he was trying to get at "why can't MUBB staff say it?" The answer is because it is a joke that is widely considered offensive and contains a word that is derogatory towards a specific group of people. No that doesn't mean it can't be posted on scoop, but I think it does raise the question of "should it be posted on scoop?".
Actually you very much nailed what I was saying - thx. The point was so wildly missed that I wasn't going to try again......maybe that's dumb of me.
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All the threads are why we can't have nice things.
And no way this gets to a 5th page before the lock
So do our bets double now that it got a 6th page?
;D
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Any y'all who can't differentiate between the useless and entertainment value of a website vs reality, just is taking life too seriously or has their priorities misplaced. What the hell is wrong with some of you people?
I can't believe you would generalize us all as "people". 68% of accounts are Chicos' bots
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brew
Truthfully, I was just busting your balls (not sure is that talk is allowed on this thread or just the Grandstaff or Joey thread)
Why wouldn't it be? As far as I am aware, no one has expressed any discomfort or offense with jokes about genitalia. The concern being raised is about the use of a slur against people who identify at LGBTQ.
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I know you were, regardless, I'll avoid it. And as I knew that, I felt the explanation was apropos. Your sarcastic response drew one in return. I haven't noticed you call out snowflake in the same way, which has the same meaning. Is it because of who uses it that you treat it differently?
I don't feel a need to jab others at all cost. I have plenty of perfectly reasonable discussions with JB and most everyone else on here. I've even had reasons to agree with Ners of late. However, I will take exceptions to slurs, whomever is going to use them.
Generally, I think if it's NSFW, it's probably also not suitable for Scoop. If you wouldn't walk into the office and say it, why would you say it here? I think back to MSK's "Im not aware of any gay Marquette fans." comment and wonder why that matters at all. Does that mean he can drop the N-word if he isn't aware of any black Scoopers? Would he use that word comfortably in an all-white office setting? What about slurs for other segments of the population?
Snowflake is not the same as butthurt. A snowflake is someone who melts down at the first sign of anything that doesnt conform to their safe space world view. See also: twitter.
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As far as I am aware, slurper refers to anyone of any gender/race/creed/sexual orientation/etc who enjoys consuming semen.
In my experience words usually hurt a lot more than sticks and stones.
Bruh.
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You are correct that the entomology of the word has nothing to do with homosexuality. It originated from spankings. A person would get verbally "spanked" and then be "butthurt" about it.
However, our society has started to associate it with a different meaning similar to the one Jay Bee pointed out. "You are whiny so you must like it up the butt." An unfortunate evolution of words.
Regardless, this is the important piece here. Apologizing and trying to do better in the future.
But the association with homosexuals in this context is all in JayBee's head, one could be into pegging (See Deadpool) or a woman into that type of intercourse as well not just a homosexual male.
Snowflake is not the same as butthurt. A snowflake is someone who melts down at the first sign of anything that doesnt conform to their safe space world view. See also: twitter.
You could argue this both ways you know... when someone set in their old ways gets called out on it they generally melt no different than the original person calling them out (see this thread and every other time JayBee's been called out for it)
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Hence the term broflake.
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So do our bets double now that it got a 6th page?
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TAMU
Where is the line drawn on making someone feel uncomfortable? How many people need to feel uncomfortable to make it unacceptable? Is there age discrimination on scoop? Posters have made many comments on my age (which is 55) in a negative manner. As a matter of fact, it is a common theme with some on here. I never get butthurt over age discrimination. I consider the source and move on. As some like to say, move on...nothing to see here.
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TAMU
Where is the line drawn on making someone feel comfortable? How many people need to feel uncomfortable to make it unacceptable? Is there age discrimination on scoop? Posters have made many comments on my age (which is 55) in a negative manner. As a matter of fact, it is a common theme with some on here. I never get butthurt over age discrimination. I consider the source and move on. As some like to say, move on...nothing to see here.
That's a great question and one that I think only each individual can answer. I personally try to golden rule it "if someone asked this of me, how would I want them to respond?".
Everyone is going to have a different line in the sand for what is and isn't acceptable. And that's OK. I just believe that it's important to respect other people's lines even if they're at a lower threshold.
Im sorry that people have made fun of you for your age. If I'm one of them I sincerely apologize. Age discrimination probably goes more unchecked in our society than most forms of discrimination.
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TAMU
No need to apologize on the age thing. It was a general question on the topic. I am not offended by some idiot online bashing my age. What the fxck do I care? Was just curious if you felt age discrimination should be allowed?
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Solid point. I was reacting to the rallying to support the use of the 'no homo'.....or maybe the passive acceptance of bigotry.
There is a lot of energy here (not in your specific post here but in the previous 75ish posts) to avoid the very basic question of why it's OK to let someone repeatedly use the phrase 'no homo' but it wouldn't be OK to use other slurs. As i pointed out earlier if someone repeatedly said "Markus needs to stop monkeying around with the ball" it would be far from OK, if someone repeatedly said "Wojo acts like a retard in his huddles" it would be far from OK i.e. rightfully not allowed.....but somehow referring to a person or act as a 'homo' is totally fine and even defendable. It wouldn't be allowed in the vast number of public forums we all interact in on a daily basis (work, kids school, etc.) so it is difficult to understand why it is accepted here.
Just catching up on scoop and spent way too much time already this morning reading all of these posts, but this one is interesting to me. I'm in the 55+ group, so I can tell you growing up my mother would often tell me to stop monkeying around. It's when I was restless, fidgety, and acting like a monkey. Go to the zoo and watch the monkeys. So if someone said "Joseph Chartouney (sp?)should stop monkeying around with the ball", is that offensive? The problem IMHO, is over time as SOME people begin to use a word as a slur ie. monkey related to a person of a particular race, then it becomes a "slur". Who determines that? 10% of the population? 30%? 50 %? So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
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Just catching up on scoop and spent way too much time already this morning reading all of these posts, but this one is interesting to me. I'm in the 55+ group, so I can tell you growing up my mother would often tell me to stop monkeying around. It's when I was restless, fidgety, and acting like a monkey. Go to the zoo and watch the monkeys. So if someone said "Joseph Chartouney (sp?)should stop monkeying around with the ball", is that offensive? The problem IMHO, is over time as SOME people begin to use a word as a slur ie. monkey related to a person of a particular race, then it becomes a "slur". Who determines that? 10% of the population? 30%? 50 %? So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
Chartouney is lebanse-canadian so that may be a whole different situation to analyse. I think the Howard example was brought up because he's at least partially african american (I don't think I've seen a pic of his mom so didn't want to assume).
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TSmith
brew's stating he would not use butthurt again was followed by explanation on why he uses it, and a request for me to be offended by others. If I offend someone, I would probably apologize and skip the explanation.
True, and fair enough. If I had to guess, though, I'd predict he will stop using the term. He'll evolve.
JB? Not so much.
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Just catching up on scoop and spent way too much time already this morning reading all of these posts, but this one is interesting to me. I'm in the 55+ group, so I can tell you growing up my mother would often tell me to stop monkeying around. It's when I was restless, fidgety, and acting like a monkey. Go to the zoo and watch the monkeys. So if someone said "Joseph Chartouney (sp?)should stop monkeying around with the ball", is that offensive? The problem IMHO, is over time as SOME people begin to use a word as a slur ie. monkey related to a person of a particular race, then it becomes a "slur". Who determines that? 10% of the population? 30%? 50 %? So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
Growing up, I frequently used retard/redarded. Hell, I used a lot of stupid and offensive terms. But it is now an offensive term and rightfully so, so I no longer use it as a slur.
Yeah, that doesn't answer your question about what % needs to determine if it is offensive, I know...but if the general consensus is that it is offensive, it is, and you don't get to pull a JB and pretend that it isn't.
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Who determines that? 10% of the population? 30%? 50 %? So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
Most of the time I feel it's fairly evident, and I think the term "homo" has been seen as derogatory since at least the 1980s. It was more acceptable then to discriminate against LGBTQ individuals, but we've all known since then what the meaning and intent of the word was.
I think generally the affected portion of society should be able to make the determination. When a Scoop user spoke up as a member of the LGBTQ society against the term, that should've absolutely been the end of it.
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Galway
romey's post hit on the head to me. The term monkeying around for our generation has ZERO race implications. My Dad would used that phrase on me and follow it up with "don't act like an idiot". romey noting Joe C. is his post says it all. He picked a player, any player, because monkeying around means exactly that, and nothing more to folks over the age 50.
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Galway
romey's post hit on the head to me. The term monkeying around for our generation has ZERO race implications. My Dad would used that phrase on me and follow it up with "don't act like an idiot". romey noting Joe C. is his post says it all. He picked a player, any player, because monkeying around means exactly that, and nothing more to folks over the age 50.
Monkeying around I'd agree with you, I could understand a viewpoint however where it is considered offensive.
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Indeed. I was at the game and had no clue what happened until after the game. So, my son showed me the incident in slow mo. Being as objective as I could be, I say it was intentional. Davison keeps his left arm in a strange position way to long, very unnatural move. Not a basketball move. Stopped pumping his left arm way in advance. If he was trying to hold or hook, it would not have set his arm and held it so far in advance.
This analysis/thread sounds like some Seinfeld episode.
Anyway, time to move onto better subjects than a crotch shot that apparently missed its target.
i think he was trying to sneak one in there, but best way to find out is check out how he battles around other picks. i think he just expected joey to go down and then he could look around in disbelief. weird thing davison hasn't figured out though is you can't scratch yourself in public without some camera capturing the moment
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So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
Well based on history...its the young people because all the old people end up dieing regardless if they change or don't change.
I remember wincing over and over again when I heard my grandfather speak. I was not raised in some sort of overly PC family, but I remember thinking it was just wrong. Additionally, I can count many things that I/we said growing up, I wouldn't use today.
I remember hoping I would never be that guy - but I know I will someday. At least now I would like to believe that I will stop doing it if someone pulls me aside and explains that I am doing something, potentially with no ill intent, that hurts someone else.
We are all the product of what we learned and heard - so I hope people continue to have patience with me when I don't say things perfectly or need to be told that something is hurtful.
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Is it okay to say Sam Hauser is monkeying around? ;)
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i think he was trying to sneak one in there, but best way to find out is check out how he battles around other picks. i think he just expected joey to go down and then he could look around in disbelief. weird thing davison hasn't figured out though is you can't scratch yourself in public without some camera capturing the moment
tryin to get us to page 8 this is good stuff ;D
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rocket
Quit monkeying around on here. If that continues, someone is going to be butthurt, and it won't be me.
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This is the post where any and all debate on "NH" should've ended:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=56628.msg1043624#msg1043624
As a gay man, I can assure you that you are thoroughly wrong. I think the general assumption is that since there aren't enough out there to be "outraged", it's not that big of a deal.
This has nothing to do with political correctness, or politics, at all. It is a phobia based on someone's sexual orientation. Where do politics come into that again?
And we all know that your glowing endorsement here will only serve to encourage the sheer ignorance going forward.
As a youth sports coach, I take every opportunity to explain and correct usage of any of these terms. Kids often just don't understand it. Adults know better, and it's unacceptable. For some reason, there are still adult men that encourage this type of language in sports, in particular. Which is regrettable, as you never really know when such a word could be devastating for a child that looks up to you.
Dissapointed in you guys, but unsurprised.
I'd contend that you don't need to be in the presence of other races to know that making racist comments is wrong, and you shouldn't have to be in the presence of LGBTQ individuals to know that making discriminatory comments against them is also wrong.
That said, the above post made it clear that the "there's no one LGBTQ here so I can be bigoted against them" defense doesn't hold up on this site. Making that comment is not okay. Defending those that make that comment is not okay.
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Just catching up on scoop and spent way too much time already this morning reading all of these posts, but this one is interesting to me. I'm in the 55+ group, so I can tell you growing up my mother would often tell me to stop monkeying around. It's when I was restless, fidgety, and acting like a monkey. Go to the zoo and watch the monkeys. So if someone said "Joseph Chartouney (sp?)should stop monkeying around with the ball", is that offensive? The problem IMHO, is over time as SOME people begin to use a word as a slur ie. monkey related to a person of a particular race, then it becomes a "slur". Who determines that? 10% of the population? 30%? 50 %? So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
I think it's a combination of exactly what you said - some people start using a phrase/word as a slur and it makes it taboo - and a general social awareness about certain words. There is no magic % or formula.
A great example of this is that I am one of the coaches for my 4th graders basketball team. Our first practice the head coach - fellow dad - comes up to me and says "i'd like to start them off running suicides but i'm sure we shouldn't call them that, what are they called now?" Since this has become an age reveal thread ;) I'm 52 and had no idea, turns out they are called 'lines'. We joked that when cocaine makes its big comeback they'll have to be called something else.
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I thought slurpers just meant some one was drinking the Kool-Aid.
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Coming from someone who doesn't know how to spell the word "this".
Coming from someone who thinks non-Anglo names is a source of entertainment and amusement
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Can we say Queer? I cant keep track if thats useable again or not?
In todays day is a good hearted game of “Smear the Queer” acceptable? Just wanna know to avoid the rath of the elites.
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Hey--
How come no one attacked warriorchick earlier in the thread for saying "you guys are spending way too much time for looking at Joey's crotch"? Was that comment out of line or funny because it came from a preferred poster?
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Hey--
How come no one attacked warriorchick earlier in the thread for saying "you guys are spending way too much time for looking at Joey's crotch"? Was that comment out of line or funny because it came from a preferred poster?
What do you find offensive about that? Please explain. As far as I am aware no one has complained about jokes involving genitals.
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Can we say Queer? I cant keep track if thats useable again or not?
In todays day is a good hearted game of “Smear the Queer” acceptable? Just wanna know to avoid the rath of the elites.
Depends on the context. Saying something is queer meaning strange is still acceptable but similar to the "monkeying around" conversation I would be careful about when and where you use it.
Calling a person a queer has been unacceptable for awhile. It is still a slur for people of the LGBTQ community.
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rocket
Quit monkeying around on here. If that continues, someone is going to be butthurt, and it won't be me.
hey goose man! speakin of bh, that's why warrior and i work on the other end although, except for their breath, they all look the same, eyn'a? :D
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Consider the sources. Their characters were revealed a long time ago.
Some of us have had our character validated many times in many ways by people who can actually weigh in on such a matter.
Declaring oneself a moral arbiter on a meaningless message board is beyond pathetic.
By the way, isn't Exxon one of your "Fortune 5 clients?" I used the sh!tter in their Beacon Hill property yesterday and it was disgusting. Better get to it there, "TSmith." Don't want to lose a "Fortune 5 client."
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This may be the greatest* Scoop bye week thread of all time
*in this greatest is an stand in for adjectives like: disappointing, frustrating, hysterical, mind blowing, painful, and engaging. Classic Scoop
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“Hey, whatever you want to think...go ahead and think it”- Bob Weir
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Just catching up on scoop and spent way too much time already this morning reading all of these posts, but this one is interesting to me. I'm in the 55+ group, so I can tell you growing up my mother would often tell me to stop monkeying around. It's when I was restless, fidgety, and acting like a monkey. Go to the zoo and watch the monkeys. So if someone said "Joseph Chartouney (sp?)should stop monkeying around with the ball", is that offensive? The problem IMHO, is over time as SOME people begin to use a word as a slur ie. monkey related to a person of a particular race, then it becomes a "slur". Who determines that? 10% of the population? 30%? 50 %? So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
It’s still an issue in Europe. There’s a lot of racism throughout the soccer leagues and bananas are used to taunt players from time to time.
Of course saying someone is monkeying around is far different from calling someone a monkey, but nuance has no place on the internet.
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What do you find offensive about that? Please explain. As far as I am aware no one has complained about jokes involving genitals.
Duh. It was a gay joke/slur. You "guys" are spending way too much time staring at a "guy's" nuts, aina.
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It is still a slur for people of the LGBTQ community.
Wait. Doesn't the Q in the community stand for "queer"? Are they slurring themselves?
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Lenny
Could imagine if JayBee would have made that comment? If 4ever would say that, he would cause butthurt across the site.
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Wait. Doesn't the Q in the community stand for "queer"? Are they slurring themselves?
I've often wondered this.
Your other points are nonsensical but this one's solid
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Wait. Doesn't the Q in the community stand for "queer"? Are they slurring themselves?
I believe it stands for “Questioning.”
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Duh. It was a gay joke/slur. You "guys" are spending way too much time staring at a "guy's" nuts, aina.
Actually think you just proved their point. No one got offended over a joke, it's the repeated and proud use of a slur.
Make jokes all people want, just don't use knowingly offensive slurs like the N word, h and f words to describe gay people, etc and we're all good.
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MU03ENG
So gay jokes are OK?
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Wait. Doesn't the Q in the community stand for "queer"? Are they slurring themselves?
Taught it stood four "queen," hey?
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Just catching up on scoop and spent way too much time already this morning reading all of these posts, but this one is interesting to me. I'm in the 55+ group, so I can tell you growing up my mother would often tell me to stop monkeying around. It's when I was restless, fidgety, and acting like a monkey. Go to the zoo and watch the monkeys. So if someone said "Joseph Chartouney (sp?)should stop monkeying around with the ball", is that offensive? The problem IMHO, is over time as SOME people begin to use a word as a slur ie. monkey related to a person of a particular race, then it becomes a "slur". Who determines that? 10% of the population? 30%? 50 %? So if everyone one 55 and over doesn't view it as a slur, but everyone under 25 does, then who's right? Who gets to decide?
I live by the following:
At some point a term may have been "socially acceptable" so if you used it then it wasn't because you were racist, sexist, etc but because you weren't exposed to the hurt those terms have. At some point, that term is no longer "socially acceptable" so if you continue to use it then you are either 1. Sexist, Racist, etc or 2. Ignorant. Either way, when you use the term you are insulting yourself.
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Monkeying around I'd agree with you, I could understand a viewpoint however where it is considered offensive.
I spent the better part of two years in litigation with the EEOC because they insisted that the phrase "got the monkey off of his back" was a racist phrase. It's not. At all. And I don't think "monkeying around" is racist.
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This is what happens when we have 10 days between games.
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I think it's a combination of exactly what you said - some people start using a phrase/word as a slur and it makes it taboo - and a general social awareness about certain words. There is no magic % or formula.
A great example of this is that I am one of the coaches for my 4th graders basketball team. Our first practice the head coach - fellow dad - comes up to me and says "i'd like to start them off running suicides but i'm sure we shouldn't call them that, what are they called now?" Since this has become an age reveal thread ;) I'm 52 and had no idea, turns out they are called 'lines'. We joked that when cocaine makes its big comeback they'll have to be called something else.
Just within the last couple days I saw an article arguing against using the phrase "it's like crack" when describing a food that is really hard to resist. They contend that it makes light of addiction, and also has "classist" undertones.
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I've often wondered this.
Your other points are nonsensical but this one's solid
Thanks. Every once in a blue moon you say something that makes sense, too!
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I spent the better part of two years in litigation with the EEOC because they insisted that the phrase "got the monkey off of his back" was a racist phrase.
This says it all.
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Lenny
No he doesn’t. Who you crappin?
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Duh. It was a gay joke/slur. You "guys" are spending way too much time staring at a "guy's" nuts, aina.
Well no, it's definitely not a slur. If she said "you homos are thinking"....or something along those lines it would be a slur. I guess it can be interpreted as a gay joke, but that's not how I read it. I think the concept of anyone spending a lot of time think about a nut shot to anyone to be hilarious. But if that's how you interpreted it and were offended by it then you are well within your rights to say something. I certainly won't criticize you if you choose to do so.
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I spent the better part of two years in litigation with the EEOC because they insisted that the phrase "got the monkey off of his back" was a racist phrase. It's not. At all. And I don't think "monkeying around" is racist.
Bingo Bango Bongo
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Just within the last couple days I saw an article arguing against using the phrase "it's like crack" when describing a food that is really hard to resist. They contend that it makes light of addiction, and also has "classist" undertones.
There is a restaurant in Madison that recently changed the name of it's "crack fries" after some public backlash. That's an example of something that wasn't offensive to me but I can take a step back, see how someone else finds it offensive, and say ok, that change is for the best.
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Hopcat. Based here. Saw an interview with the founder. Makes sense.
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Wait. Doesn't the Q in the community stand for "queer"? Are they slurring themselves?
To your first question it depends on who you ask. Some say queer, some say questioning.
To your second question, no. Queer is what's called a reclaimed word in some sections of the LGBTQ community. A reclaimed word is when a community takes an offensive word and tries to take its power away by "claiming" it. Wearing it as a badge of pride almost. Some people identify as queer. If someone tells you "I identify as queer" then it is appropriate to say this "person identifies as queer." It would not be appropriate to just refer to any LGBTQ person as queer. And it is never appropriate to call someone a queer.
To be clear, this is not a universally accepted idea in the LGBTQ community. Many still despise the word and don't think it should be used ever. What is acceptable to some is not acceptable to others. And that is okay. The important part is respecting another person when their threshold is lower than yours.
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I am unable to understand your reasoning on "slurpers." Directing that comment at a heterosexual male seems to be very much a gay slur.
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Lenny
Could imagine if JayBee would have made that comment? If 4ever would say that, he would cause butthurt across the site.
I honestly don't think so. I can't speak for everyone but I certainly wouldn't have said anything and would have laughed. I have seen JayBee and 4ever make many a post along these lines that go by completely unaddressed.
The root of this conversation is whether or not the phrase no homo, specifically the word homo is acceptable. I think homo is a slur and that opinion is backed by neutral sources like the dictionary.
I'm trying to understand. Is the problem that people don't agree that homo isn't a slur? Or is the problem that people think it shouldn't matter if homo is a slur? I'm honestly trying to understand.
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TAMU
Check out the 90-33 thread. Pretty certain 4ever had post on there that got your attention.
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TAMU-
I am unable to understand your reasoning on "slurpers." Directing that comment at a heterosexual male seems to be very much a gay slur.
The way I understand that insult is that it is about a sex act not about a sexual orientation. Men and women of all orientations can slurp. Also I personally have heard it a lot more in reference to women then to men. Put another way, the word slurper insults someone based on something they do, slurs insult someone based on who they are. Things like the F-word, N-word, homo, dago, etc bother me a lot more than things like slurper or motherfer.
Don't get me wrong, it's a disgusting insult and not one I would ever use. It just doesn't bother me as much personally.
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There is a restaurant in Madison that recently changed the name of it's "crack fries" after some public backlash. That's an example of something that wasn't offensive to me but I can take a step back, see how someone else finds it offensive, and say ok, that change is for the best.
Yeah, that’s a diff b/w some of us. Some say “ok, it makes u feel weird even though it’s not offensive, so it should be changed”
I say, “STFU, get bent ya weirdo. Go cry to your momma” to such things.
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TAMU
Check out the 90-33 thread. Pretty certain 4ever had post on there that got your attention.
Absolutely. And I would call out anyone else who said the same thing. 4ever can take my comment or leave it. Why is my offense so offensive?
I'll ask again. Do you think homo is a slur? If yes, should slurs be used on this board?
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Yeah, that’s a diff b/w some of us. Some say “ok, it makes u feel weird even though it’s not offensive, so it should be changed”
I say, “STFU, get bent ya weirdo. Go cry to your momma” to such things.
Not to be a dick, but do you think that's the Jesuit thing to do?
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Please head to the window to collect
9 pages. I'm going to own your house before this is done ;D
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MU03ENG
So gay jokes are OK?
I didn't read it as a gay joke(lots of women think men are abnormally obsessed with their genitalia). If someone did or you did, that should be taken up with WC
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Would you want (term X) said about your spouse, your children, or your grandchildren?
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TAMU
I would say that in 2018 homo is considered a slur by far more people than when I was in college. For me, it comes to the audience for most questionable comments. Recently I overheard two of my nephews rough housing and talking smack. The term homo was tossed around and I was not offended. That said, I did tell them to watch their mouth around there Mom and Grandma.
Back to the 90-33 thread, what were you calling 4ever out on? My gut says his comment was more about getting 'gina out there than be sexist. So his genital joke is not funny or appropriate, but chick's cooment is appropriate?
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Lenny
No he doesn’t. Who you crappin?
You realize in my posting history I've called you intelligent, logical, and complimented you many times... sort of insulted yourself on that one 😉
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TAMU
I would say that in 2018 homo is considered a slut by far more people than when I was in college. For me, it comes to the audience for most questionable comments. Recently I overheard two of my nephews rough housing and talking smack. The term homo was tossed around and I was not offended. That said, I did not tell them to watch their mouth around there Mom and Grandma.
Back to the 90-33 thread, what were you calling 4ever out on? My gut says his comment was more about getting 'gina out there than be sexist. So his genital joke is not funny or appropriate, but chick's question is appropriate?
So it's a slur for many, but not for all. Given that there is enough in the "many" to have the dictionary list it as a slur and extremely disparaging I think we can say it is a slur for most. So does it have a place here? I would say no.
From what I remember of 4ever's comment he said something along the lines of "those guys must have have vaginas because they are bad at sports." Said another way he was saying "those guys must be girls because they are bad at sports." Personally, I don't like using an entire group of people (in this case girls and women) as an insult. Intentionally or unintentionally, it sends the message that being a woman or being feminine is to be lesser or something to be ashamed of. I like this video, I'm sure they are actors and not real people but I think it does a decent job of expressing some of these thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs&t=98s
I didn't take Chick's comments as trying to put anyone down. I took it as her pointing out the absurdity of a bunch of people thinking about a nut shot to an 18 year old. I think that's hysterical. If you see her comment differently, that's fine. Now if she had said something like "you homos think too much about Joey's crotch" that would be different.
All this being said, I didn't call 4ever a bigot or an a$$hole or tell him he's a terrible person. I didn't report him to the mods or call for him to be silenced. I told him I didn't find his joke funny. Why is that so offensive?
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Depends on the context. Saying something is queer meaning strange is still acceptable but similar to the "monkeying around" conversation I would be careful about when and where you use it.
Calling a person a queer has been unacceptable for awhile. It is still a slur for people of the LGBTQ community.
Umm doesnt the Q stand for queer. So let me get academias version? They use the letter but u can say the word or call someone a queer? I think ur wrong, wouldnt want to misstep on the righteous path
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Possibly the queerest thread ive ever participated in, kosher ? Ya or nay?
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Umm doesnt the Q stand for queer. So let me get academias version? They use the letter but u can say the word or call someone a queer? I think ur wrong, wouldnt want to misstep on the righteous path
Lenny had a similar question earlier in the thread. You can read that for the long version. Short version is that the some people say q is questioning others say q is queer. Different people have different opinions on the matter. In general, using queer as an adjective is usually okay (assuming you are using the strange definition or the person actually identifies as queer) e.g. "this person identifies as queer." Using queer as noun is usually not okay e.g. "you're a queer."
Possibly the queerest thread ive ever participated in, kosher ? Ya or nay?
Assuming you genuinely mean strangest thread then you are good. Though again similar to the conversation about "monkeying around" when talking about a black person, you want to be careful when using it in certain contexts. People might wonder why you choose to use that word when talking about someone who identifies as LGBTQ.
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TAMU
I had zero problem with chick’s comment. That said, I would think most people who think she was implying a gay joke. Might not have been her intent, but I think reasonable to take it that way.
Again, if JayBee or someone else said that line, I am not so sure everyone would give the benefit of the doubt. Really goes back to my original point, some on here find fault in anything certain posters say.
You can deny that all day long and I am fine with that. IMO, it often ends up on the person making the comments.
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If there was such thing as emotional exercise the last 20 minutes would have been my best circuit workout in weeks.
I covered anger, confusion, annoyance, laughing, sadness (for the future of the world) and enough sarcastic eye rolling to last me a good month.
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If there was such thing as emotional exercise the last 20 minutes would have been my best circuit workout in weeks.
I covered anger, confusion, annoyance, laughing, sadness (for the future of the world) and enough sarcastic eye rolling to last me a good month.
You left out PC.
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Well done, Willie
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TAMU
I had zero problem with chick’s comment. That said, I would think most people who think she was implying a gay joke. Might not have been her intent, but I think reasonable to take it that way.
Again, if JayBee or someone else said that line, I am not so sure everyone would give the benefit of the doubt. Really goes back to my original point, some on here find fault in anything certain posters say.
You can deny that all day long and I am fine with that. IMO, it often ends up on the person making the comments.
I understand. Your argument is that this is about "who said it" not "what was said." That absolutely exists on this site and elsewhere.
In many situations, you are absolutely correct. I don't think this is one of them. That's why I keep coming back to "is use of a commonly recognized slur such as homo acceptable?" That's the conversation I am having. I think the answer is no, regardless of who said it.
It is possible for you to be correct about people being biased and for the people who say use of the word homo is unacceptable to both be correct. They are not mutually exclusive.
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I live by the following:
At some point a term may have been "socially acceptable" so if you used it then it wasn't because you were racist, sexist, etc but because you weren't exposed to the hurt those terms have. At some point, that term is no longer "socially acceptable" so if you continue to use it then you are either 1. Sexist, Racist, etc or 2. Ignorant. Either way, when you use the term you are insulting yourself.
Yes, 'socially acceptable" is a broad catch all. Question: what ruling body, authority, God, emperor, commisar, proletariat, or master of the universe is the final say on what "socially acceptable" is?
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TAMU, I know you make your living off of propagating the myth of PC, so you get a free pass for your point of view. However, the rest of the world is fed up with the whole PC thing and that is why Trump got elected. My family and I have been called every hateful name in the books over the years and we just keep rolling down the highway. It built character in the kids for sure. PC is weakening Western Civilizations ability to compete against the Eastern Empire of China . Not a path we should go down.
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TAMU
My point has been consistent. Some folks can say anything and get support. Others, regardless of what is said, get attacked.
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TAMU-
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on how to interpret "slurper."
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TAMU, I know you make your living off of propagating the myth of PC, so you get a free pass for your point of view. However, the rest of the world is fed up with the whole PC thing and that is why Trump got elected. My family and I have been called every hateful name in the books over the years and we just keep rolling down the highway. It built character in the kids for sure. PC is weakening Western Civilizations ability to compete against the Eastern Empire of China . Not a path we should go down.
You say "propagating the myth of PC" I say "living Jesuit values."
I'm sure your experiences have built character for you and your children. That's a testament to you and your parenting. I have unfortunately also seen hateful words and actions lead others to depression, addiction, and even suicide. I reject the idea that we need to accept the status quo. I think we should always be fighting to make this world a more loving and holy place. We can do that while also toughening our children and preparing them to face the hate that is unfortunately in the world. We can tell them "What the person said or did is unacceptable and here's why. But when this happens, here is how you can handle it and keep it from getting to you." These two things are not at odds.
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TAMU
My point has been consistent. Some folks can say anything and get support. Others, regardless of what is said, get attacked.
Okay. I understand. I don't fully agree (If Brew came out and called everyone a bunch of homos he would be roundly criticized) but I understand what you are getting at and you are not wrong.
What does that point have to do with the question "is use of a commonly recognized slur such as homo acceptable?" Because that is the question that started this whole conversation.
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TAMU
On a side bar, I had folks flat out call me a liar in regards to the history of Matt Carlino. That is one point that I believe I trump the crew on here in regards to inside info. Yet, I had the same posters attack me in regards to Matt. In that case, some argued for the sake of arguing. Pretty stupid, IMO.
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I didn't read it as a gay joke(lots of women think men are abnormally obsessed with their genitalia).
They ARE abnormally obsessed with junk - theirs, other guys, all of it. And they also believe that women are way more obsessed with guy's junk than they actually are. *
*I acknowledge these are huge generalizations that don't apply to every single human male (just the overwhelming majority).
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You say "propagating the myth of PC" I say "living Jesuit values."
I'm sure your experiences have built character for you and your children. That's a testament to you and your parenting. I have unfortunately also seen hateful words and actions lead others to depression, addiction, and even suicide. I reject the idea that we need to accept the status quo. I think we should always be fighting to make this world a more loving and holy place. We can do that while also toughening our children and preparing them to face the hate that is unfortunately in the world. We can tell them "What the person said or did is unacceptable and here's why. But when this happens, here is how you can handle it and keep it from getting to you." These two things are not at odds.
An admirable goal . However, I faced the reality early on that while I was blessed to be an American, I was not blessed enough to be the right color. I just chose to accept that and work toward accentuating the strengths I brought to the table that america as a nation could propel. So never fought for minority set asides or anything like that, just wanted to be best in class. It is a different mindset than most in my community but for me and my family it worked. I guess the way I looked at it, by steeling myself against hatred , I could expend my time and energy in places where it mattered. Hatred is a super expensive emotion. So having nothing to do with it was a pure efficiency thing that accumulated over time .
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Declaring oneself a moral arbiter on a meaningless message board is beyond pathetic.
Yep, Meaningless Message Board.
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Lenny had a similar question earlier in the thread. You can read that for the long version. Short version is that the some people say q is questioning others say q is queer. Different people have different opinions on the matter. In general, using queer as an adjective is usually okay (assuming you are using the strange definition or the person actually identifies as queer) e.g. "this person identifies as queer." Using queer as noun is usually not okay e.g. "you're a queer."
Assuming you genuinely mean strangest thread then you are good. Though again similar to the conversation about "monkeying around" when talking about a black person, you want to be careful when using it in certain contexts. People might wonder why you choose to use that word when talking about someone who identifies as LGBTQ.
Its basically a lighter version of -er vs -a.
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Its basically a lighter version of -er vs -a.
I'll be honest, I don't know as much about that debate so I won't wander into it.
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I'll be honest, I don't know as much about that debate so I won't wander into it.
Hadn’t stopped Scoopers b4, ayna?
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What does that point have to do with the question "is use of a commonly recognized slur such as homo acceptable?"
Against my better judgement, I'll explain where I think your (and others) understanding is different from mine .
nh is shorthand for "no homo"
no homo is shorthand for "no homosexual intent"
Anyone using (nh) is not calling someone else a "homo".
I don't disagree that that (nh) can still offend people (as many things can).
Again, there's a whole wiki page on it, which describes the criticisms, and debate about those criticisms too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_homo
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Huh, and I thought the mods were just busy at an arbys summit.
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Against my better judgement, I'll explain where I think your (and others) understanding is different from mine .
nh is shorthand for "no homo"
no homo is shorthand for "no homosexual intent"
Anyone using (nh) is not calling someone else a "homo".
I don't disagree that that (nh) can still offend people (as many things can).
Again, there's a whole wiki page on it, which describes the criticisms, and debate about those criticisms too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_homo
^^^ give dis guy a raise (nh)
That was explained well
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Against my better judgement, I'll explain where I think your (and others) understanding is different from mine .
nh is shorthand for "no homo"
no homo is shorthand for "no homosexual intent"
Anyone using (nh) is not calling someone else a "homo".
I don't disagree that that (nh) can still offend people (as many things can).
Again, there's a whole wiki page on it, which describes the criticisms, and debate about those criticisms too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_homo
the offense is in the eye of the beholder, and personally I'd have stopped after the resident lgbtq member said it was. (Note a whole thread mentioning Tourette's got deleted when I called out Brandx)
It would seem to me that the only reason someone in their middle age would still be using that type of humor is a deep seeded insecurity. I remember vividly using that humor, I was 11 to about 14 then everybody outgrew it. M
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^^^ give dis guy a raise (nh)
That was explained well
In general use Rocky is 100% spot on. Regarding your use of the phrase as being a slur against gay/LBGQT people, backed up by your many remarks about transgender bathroom rights, gay marriage, a large number of of your 'no homo' placements, you use it as a homophobic slur. You then completely own the mantra of "STFU you weirdo! I'll use homo however I want. Go cry" then try to hide behind the fact that Rocky sees some people using it as 'no homosexual intent'.
You use this as a slur.
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In general use Rocky is 100% spot on. Regarding your use of the phrase as being a slur against gay/LBGQT people, backed up by your many remarks about transgender bathroom rights, gay marriage, a large number of of your 'no homo' placements, you use it as a homophobic slur. You then completely own the mantra of "STFU you weirdo! I'll use homo however I want. Go cry" then try to hide behind the fact that Rocky sees some people using it as 'no homosexual intent'.
You use this as a slur.
Stop with your libelous nonsense, Nags. Try to let the evil hate deoart from your heart.
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Stop with your libelous nonsense, Nags. Try to let the evil hate deoart from your heart.
deoart?
If you are claiming libel it would imply that you are positioning yourself as pro same sex marriage, pro sexual identity as a protected class, supporting trans individuals being recognized as the gender they identify with (including using that ascribed bathroom), and condemning the use of the word “homo” or any other slur. Is that what you are claiming?
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deoart?
If you are claiming libel it would imply that you are positioning yourself as pro same sex marriage, pro sexual identity as a protected class, supporting trans individuals being recognized as the gender they identify with (including using that ascribed bathroom), and condemning the use of the word “homo” or any other slur. Is that what you are claiming?
Maybe when you turn 53 you’ll grow out of this stage??? #PrayersUp
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Maybe when you turn 53 you’ll grow out of this stage??? #PrayersUp
Is that a “yes, I stand behind all of those pro LBGQT rights you listed” or is that a “yes, I’m homophobic and am simply hiding behind a nuance in interpretation Rocky brought up”?
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Is that a “yes, I stand behind all of those pro LBGQT rights you listed” or is that a “yes, I’m homophobic and am simply hiding behind a nuance in interpretation Rocky brought up”?
You’ll continue to make up whatever your small mind wants to. #PrayersUp
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Against my better judgement, I'll explain where I think your (and others) understanding is different from mine .
nh is shorthand for "no homo"
no homo is shorthand for "no homosexual intent"
Anyone using (nh) is not calling someone else a "homo".
I don't disagree that that (nh) can still offend people (as many things can).
Again, there's a whole wiki page on it, which describes the criticisms, and debate about those criticisms too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_homo
You might have a case if it didn't directly impact the people that use your site:
As a gay man, I can assure you that you are thoroughly wrong. I think the general assumption is that since there aren't enough out there to be "outraged", it's not that big of a deal.
This has nothing to do with political correctness, or politics, at all. It is a phobia based on someone's sexual orientation. Where do politics come into that again?
And we all know that your glowing endorsement here will only serve to encourage the sheer ignorance going forward.
As a youth sports coach, I take every opportunity to explain and correct usage of any of these terms. Kids often just don't understand it. Adults know better, and it's unacceptable. For some reason, there are still adult men that encourage this type of language in sports, in particular. Which is regrettable, as you never really know when such a word could be devastating for a child that looks up to you.
Dissapointed in you guys, but unsurprised.
It violates two rules of the site. It impacts people that use the site. "Respect other posters." "Use of...sexist comments prohibited." You can follow your own rules and respect the posters on this site or you can not, but you may as well delete the "rules" post if that's the perspective you're going to take. I think it's safe to say D'Lo has more stake and validity in this than anyone else here or whatever website you cite.
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You might have a case if it didn't directly impact the people that use your site:
It violates two rules of the site. It impacts people that use the site. "Respect other posters." "Use of...sexist comments prohibited." You can follow your own rules and respect the posters on this site or you can not, but you may as well delete the "rules" post if that's the perspective you're going to take. I think it's safe to say D'Lo has more stake and validity in this than anyone else here or whatever website you cite.
Thanks for you opinion. Again.
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You’ll continue to make up whatever your small mind wants to. #PrayersUp
I'm simply looking for you to take a stance one way or another. Either you can state that you are pro LBGQT rights or you are truly using 'no homo' as a slur. If you state you are totally behind the LBGQT community and their rights i'm cool with you using 'nh' without further comment. If you can't commit to supporting LBGQT rights than it is clear you are using 'nh' as a slur.
I'm asking you for a clear definition so you won't have to worry about me "making up whatever my small mind wants to".
As far as the # and false bravado about your intellectual superiority we can save that for PM if you want.
Which is it JB? Simple question that you've avoided actually answering: Supportive of the LBGQT community or using 'no homo' as a slur?
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You might have a case if it didn't directly impact the people that use your site:
It violates two rules of the site. It impacts people that use the site. "Respect other posters." "Use of...sexist comments prohibited." You can follow your own rules and respect the posters on this site or you can not, but you may as well delete the "rules" post if that's the perspective you're going to take. I think it's safe to say D'Lo has more stake and validity in this than anyone else here or whatever website you cite.
^^^ ban dis guy
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It literally contains the word homo. Which is a slur for a gay person. I don't believe anyone has an issue with the intent of the phrase. I love a good what's she said or when you were saying (pause).
In honor of Pete Shelley, who died last week, I think this version of homo is still ok.
https://www.youtube.com/v/2HwmO_GZfzI
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^^^ ban dis guy
I didn't make the rules, but it is the mods job to enforce them.
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And on today's episode of Who's Morally Superior ...
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I didn't make the rules, but it is the mods job to enforce them.
Is it really?
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And on today's episode of Who's Morally Superior ...
More like an episode of "Just Take a Damn Stand" where someone claims Arby's is health food and, when presented with the fact that a beef-n-cheddar contains no actual non processed ingredients (never mind actual produce or natural grains/meat), screams "but it tastes good to me" over and over again.
The contestant either takes door #1: admits that they eat Arby's because it tastes good, Door #2: they admit they didn't know Arby's was fast food, or Door #3: they continue to scream "it tastes good to me so it's healthy". Doors 1 & 2 are the logical choices for the contestant but.......
Cut to the audience chanting "just take a damn stand" and the contestant crashing through door #3 while insisting he went through no door at all.
**sad trombone**
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Is it really?
The rules use phrases like "will not be tolerated", "banned", and "prohibited". Not sure why those are there if the mods aren't enforcing them. The alternative is encouraging continued bigoted comments.
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How about locking the thread and moving on with some actual basketball talk?
My god this site can be just pathetic at times.
You want to talk about LGBT rights and what is our isn't a slur......how about another site, super bar or email?
I mean what a waste of a good thread of what a punk Davison is.......
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How about locking the thread and moving on with some actual basketball talk?
My god this site can be just pathetic at times.
You want to talk about LGBT rights and what is our isn't a slur......how about another site, super bar or email?
I mean what a waste of a good thread of what a punk Davison is.......
Yep. The fact MU has a bunch of whining pansy fans can’t be good for recruiting heynar??
Instead of crying about mods, could always use the handy ignore function (available on the website and hopefully also in your little minds)
Worried about these unstable folks. Prayers up
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In honor of Pete Shelley, who died last week, I think this version of homo is still ok.
https://www.youtube.com/v/2HwmO_GZfzI
I had absolutely no idea that was the same guy from the Buzzcocks. Amazing double entendre for the thread.
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Whoa, whoa. Arby's doesn't necessarily taste good.
Its primary function is to take your mind off whatever troubled you before you started eating Arby's because you have a new trouble, and are closer to death anyhow.
In conclusion, this thread makes me hungry for Arby's.
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I had absolutely no idea that was the same guy from the Buzzcocks. Amazing double entendre for the thread.
The song is about gay sex. Shelley was an open bisexual.
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Whoa, whoa. Arby's doesn't necessarily taste good.
Its primary function is to take your mind off whatever troubled you before you started eating Arby's because you have a new trouble, and are closer to death anyhow.
In conclusion, this thread makes me hungry for Arby's.
Season 2 is where they added door #4: "I do this because it's the easy way to deflect from life's cold realities and my own insecurities as I stare into the gapping abyss".
But the contestant still charges through door #3. *every damn time*.........**sad trombone**
The song is about gay sex. Shelley was an open bisexual.
got/knew that. i was going for the more nuanced inference in his membership in a band named "Buzzcocks"
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More like an episode of "Just Take a Damn Stand" where someone claims Arby's is health food and, when presented with the fact that a beef-n-cheddar contains no actual non processed ingredients (never mind actual produce or natural grains/meat), screams "but it tastes good to me" over and over again.
The contestant either takes door #1: admits that they eat Arby's because it tastes good, Door #2: they admit they didn't know Arby's was fast food, or Door #3: they continue to scream "it tastes good to me so it's healthy". Doors 1 & 2 are the logical choices for the contestant but.......
Cut to the audience chanting "just take a damn stand" and the contestant crashing through door #3 while insisting he went through no door at all.
**sad trombone**
Ban dis guy^^^^
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Some of us have had our character validated many times in many ways by people who can actually weigh in on such a matter.
Declaring oneself a moral arbiter on a meaningless message board is beyond pathetic.
By the way, isn't Exxon one of your "Fortune 5 clients?" I used the sh!tter in their Beacon Hill property yesterday and it was disgusting. Better get to it there, "TSmith." Don't want to lose a "Fortune 5 client."
Sorry about that keefe, I'll get right on that. I hope you were able to copy down enough material from the graffiti on the stall walls to complete your next plagiarized faux magnum opus.
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Before today, I hadn't been in this thread since page 2..
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Looking for direction: I clicked on new and it took me to page 5. Catch up or ignore?
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Looking for direction: I clicked on new and it took me to page 5. Catch up or ignore?
If you're looking for more talk about Davison's nut shot on Joey, ignore.
If you're looking for a mostly civil though sometimes not discussion about the appropriateness of the phrase no homo OR you're a masochist, catch up
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Looking for direction: I clicked on new and it took me to page 5. Catch up or ignore?
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RUN AWAY!!! RUN AWAY AND DON'T LOOK BACK!!
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What a sh$t show of a thread.
This attachment about sums up what the excessive* PC movement has accomplished as in: safe spaces, "feelings," no red ink to grade papers, trophies for all, participation ribbons, etc.
No wonder so many women are fed up with "men" in this day and age.
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What a sh$t show of a thread.
This attachment about sums up what the excessive* PC movement has accomplished as in: safe spaces, "feelings," no red ink to grade papers, trophies for all, participation ribbons, etc.
No wonder so many women are fed up with "men" in this day and age.
That literally has nothing to do with anything in this thread ::)
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Instead of crying about mods, could always use the handy ignore function (available on the website and hopefully also in your little minds)
Holy hypocrite, Batman!
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I'm very tempted to just cuss out everyone on this thread, compliment every president from the past 5 administrations, and send out links to a few religious charities just to get this stupid thread locked.
If people would just talk basketball here, then there's no worry about anyone being offended. It's just that simple. Can we move on to basketball now? Please?
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I can't figure out how to delete what I was going to write here. Sorry to extend this thread.
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I'm very tempted to just cuss out everyone on this thread, compliment every president from the past 5 administrations, and send out links to a few religious charities just to get this stupid thread locked.
If people would just talk basketball here, then there's no worry about anyone being offended. It's just that simple. Can we move on to basketball now? Please?
Ironic post challenge unlocked