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Title: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on July 31, 2018, 06:09:42 PM
Some stats surrounding Tiger's success this year:

https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/these-five-tiger-woods-stats-may-surprise-you-entering-the-2018-stretch-run/
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Post by: jesmu84 on July 31, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
What brand of ball are you guys playing? For years, I only played ProV1s. Then I found Bridgestone e6 softs were apparently better for my game.

When all the internet brands began coming out, I did some research before settling on Snell. I bought their test pack earlier this summer (2 sleeves each of their 3 layer and 4 layer). To my surprise, liked and performed better with the 3 layer (black). Just bought 6 dozen. Hell of a price for that quality.
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Post by: tower912 on July 31, 2018, 07:33:20 PM
E6's.   Wilson Duos.    Callaway Chrome Soft, when I am playing a course with rock hard greens. 
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Post by: PTM on July 31, 2018, 09:15:29 PM
Tower nailed it. e6 and Duos are a steal for the money. Also, love Vice Pro Soft and Pro +.

Titleist was recently at my league track. Did a ball fitting, mostly because I got two free sleeves. The new Prov1x outperformed their other balls, the Duos and Vice in my bag. I just can't pay $50/dozen.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 01, 2018, 07:47:30 AM
I have shot low rounds (pat or better) with many different balls.  98% of the time, a well struck iron will check up on the green predictably, regardless of brand.  For that other 2%, a Pro V, or some other tour caliber ball will make a difference.  So I generally go for low compression and low driver spin.  I would rather be 3-5 yards closer to the middle of the fairway and play to the center of the green than try to curve a ball to a pin.  I only go pin hunting with my wedges from specific yardages.  And an E6 or Duo spins enough to do that.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on August 01, 2018, 09:15:47 AM
I did like the e6. I just found I saved a few bucks with the Snells.

PTM - have you tried any other "online" brand balls?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 01, 2018, 09:21:03 AM
Tower

You sound like my kind of golfing partner. As a rule, I prefer to play with very good golfers. Curious, what is your handicap? What was lowest handicap?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MUfan12 on August 01, 2018, 10:29:27 AM
Duo is a good ball for the price. I liked the Vice Pro as well.

Started playing the Titleist Tour Soft this season and I like 'em quite a bit.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Chili on August 01, 2018, 10:59:23 AM
I switched from the Bridgestone B330 to the Vice Pro+ 2 years ago and won't look back. Can't beat $25 a dozen and I can the red ball. Though, I have white available for fall rounds.

I have some of the good KSigs left and way too many of the crap KSigs too. They're nice for when you're doing drunk late 9's on golf trips after you've already played 36.

Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on August 01, 2018, 11:06:21 AM
Callaway Supersoft

I used to always use Nike PD Soft but when they got out of the golf market I had to switch.
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Post by: tower912 on August 01, 2018, 11:07:33 AM
Tower

You sound like my kind of golfing partner. As a rule, I prefer to play with very good golfers. Curious, what is your handicap? What was lowest handicap?
The lowest I have ever been was a 4 in the fall of 2006.    I went on a golf orgy, knowing my wife was pregnant and that my next few years was going to be spent taking care of the baby on my days off.     That fall, I had 20 rounds in a row without ever shooting higher than a 77.   I gave up playing 7000 yard tees for my 50th birthday two years ago.    6500-6800 is enough.   I am currently playing to a 7.   What has crept into my game this year is the random WTF round.   5 straight rounds in the high  70's followed by a WTF 92.     8-10 more rounds at 80 or lower and then another WTF 94.   
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 01, 2018, 11:48:28 AM
I did like the e6. I just found I saved a few bucks with the Snells.

PTM - have you tried any other "online" brand balls?

Yeah, between my usual partners and I, we're gone through a lot of them.

I think Vice is the best. They also have a strong marketing and apparel game, which helps the cause. Snell is right up there with quality, I just cringed at those "GETSUM" balls. Cut was pretty terrible, but one of my partner still is playing them. I think he may have just over ordered.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 01, 2018, 12:04:38 PM
Tower

I wish I could force myself to move a tee box up. I am 55 and play mostly with my oldest son and only play the tips. We did play Erin Hills at roughly 6700 yards last month and very enjoyable. I fired an 80 and believe moving up one tee box was about 6-7 shots for me.

My biggest issue with the tips is distance in for approach shot. My short game has fallen off the planet, making scoring very difficult. More importantly, it is mentally draining being forced to rely on short game too much.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 01, 2018, 01:01:19 PM
My short game us fine.  The backbone of my scoring.  74 with 26 putts.  78 with 29.  That kind of thing.   Hero par 4s are my reason for playing up.  Playing an uphill 450 yard par 4 sucks.  Tee boxes tucked behind a lake that require a 240 carry to reach the fairway.  My ego is just fine playing blue tees and not black.   Plus, finding other people willing to play them is not easy after 50.  Most of my friends want to play white tees.  6000 is plenty for them
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 01, 2018, 01:12:44 PM
Tower

I wish I had your putting numbers. When I belonged to club,and played very fast greens, my putting numbers were close to yours. More often than not I am in the 33-35 range, hence my high scoring. I really wish I could get my game 80% back to where it was when I could really play. I had seasons of 100+ rounds that I maybe shot over 80 ten times in a season. Now, I have 100+ in over past seven years and have not broken 80.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 01, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
I am not a great putter.  I  am a great chipper. I hit from beyond 20 feet about as often as Derrick Wilson.  I am very good inside 8 ft and a good lag putter who rarely 3 putts.   I will hit 6 greens in regulation and shoot 77.  I am a disappointing A player in a scramble because knocking down pins and knocking  in bombs is not what I do.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on August 01, 2018, 02:47:37 PM
I was Finland min-June for a conference at corporate headquarters.  They held a team building event at a golf course.  It was cool to play golf late in the evening.  It was still very bright sunlight at 9:00 pm and still bright sunlight at 10:00 pm when the club house visit ended. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 03, 2018, 06:22:10 AM
I was Finland min-June for a conference at corporate headquarters.  They held a team building event at a golf course.  It was cool to play golf late in the evening.  It was still very bright sunlight at 9:00 pm and still bright sunlight at 10:00 pm when the club house visit ended.

Try Northern Michigan in the summer.   A shameless plug for my state, sure, but 54 hole days are not rare up north.   Start the day dew sweeping, finish up looking into the sunset, go get a few local microbrews and some ibuprofen.    I have done 36 many times, but when I hear guys talk about 54, I get sympathy back and hip pains, like watching someone roll their ankle or take a shot to the nards. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: mu03eng on August 03, 2018, 06:52:14 AM
I'm playing 81 holes in 4 days starting next Wednesday with gambling and drinking thrown in, this will either kill me or.....yeah it's gonna kill me.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 03, 2018, 07:59:12 AM
I have a 3 day outing every year right after Memorial day with 90 holes of golf in 3 days, with an option for 9 or 18 more.   Treetops the last few years, Garland next year, but we have played all over Northern Michigan.    It isn't the golf.   It is getting out of the car after the 3 hour drive home. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: mu03eng on August 03, 2018, 08:27:30 AM
Yeah, I'm playing a charity event in MKE on Wednesday then head up to the UP on Thursday to play Sage Run, Sweetgrass, and Greywalls. The folding and unfolding in the car on Sunday will be difficult.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU11W on August 03, 2018, 08:57:29 AM
Try Northern Michigan in the summer.   A shameless plug for my state, sure, but 54 hole days are not rare up north.   Start the day dew sweeping, finish up looking into the sunset, go get a few local microbrews and some ibuprofen.    I have done 36 many times, but when I hear guys talk about 54, I get sympathy back and hip pains, like watching someone roll their ankle or take a shot to the nards.

Tower - What's your go to course(s) up in Northern Michigan?  I go up to the Petoskey area every summer and am always looking for new courses to play.  Little Traverse Bay Golf Club is generally my main course while in that area.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Chili on August 03, 2018, 10:37:52 AM
Tower - What's your go to course(s) up in Northern Michigan?  I go up to the Petoskey area every summer and am always looking for new courses to play.  Little Traverse Bay Golf Club is generally my main course while in that area.

We have a group of 8 guys that does a 2 day outing (Sun-Mon) every year right before Fathers Day so just before the Summer Solstice. We try and do Western MI but some years do central WI too. 2 years ago we did St. Ives & Tulleymore in north central MI and this past year did Lawsonia Links in Green Lake. Next year since we're all turning 40 we might do Sand Valley to go all out.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 03, 2018, 12:45:48 PM
I don't have a go to course up north.  I have played all over.  I love Tullymore, ambivalent about St. Ives.  Arcadia Bluffs is magnificent but pricey.   Petoskey area, I have played the Boyne Mountain courses, but have not played the Boyne Highlands courses.    Treetops is beautiful.   Threetops is a must play.    Garland has 4 great courses, all with their first tee within 100 yards of the main lodge.   Remote, though.    The Bear has been softened, but is still beautiful in Traverse City.     Forest Dunes in Roscommon is great.   I have not played the new course there yet.    Lakewood Shores in Oscoda has one great course and two average ones.     The Otsego Club (which is for sale) has one great course and one mediocre course.     
 I am about to go spend a week in Leland on the Leelanau peninsula, just up the road from Sleeping Bear Dunes.   Only one high end public access course on Michigan's pinkie.    A couple of decent courses, but you don't go there for the destination golf.     
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on August 03, 2018, 01:04:04 PM
Try Northern Michigan in the summer.   A shameless plug for my state, sure, but 54 hole days are not rare up north.   Start the day dew sweeping, finish up looking into the sunset, go get a few local microbrews and some ibuprofen.    I have done 36 many times, but when I hear guys talk about 54, I get sympathy back and hip pains, like watching someone roll their ankle or take a shot to the nards.

Finland or Michigan Michigan or Finland?   :-\  ;D
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Post by: PTM on August 03, 2018, 04:11:06 PM
I don't have a go to course up north.  I have played all over.  I love Tullymore, ambivalent about St. Ives.  Arcadia Bluffs is magnificent but pricey.   Petoskey area, I have played the Boyne Mountain courses, but have not played the Boyne Highlands courses.    Treetops is beautiful.   Threetops is a must play.    Garland has 4 great courses, all with their first tee within 100 yards of the main lodge.   Remote, though.    The Bear has been softened, but is still beautiful in Traverse City.     Forest Dunes in Roscommon is great.   I have not played the new course there yet.    Lakewood Shores in Oscoda has one great course and two average ones.     The Otsego Club (which is for sale) has one great course and one mediocre course.     
 I am about to go spend a week in Leland on the Leelanau peninsula, just up the road from Sleeping Bear Dunes.   Only one high end public access course on Michigan's pinkie.    A couple of decent courses, but you don't go there for the destination golf.     

We used to have a lake house in Leelanau County, miss it.

The first big course I played was the current day Mantiou Passage, right when it opened. I was in 7th grade. Played it again 4-5 years ago on a vacation, still was a blast. Not quite as daunting going up the side of Sugar Loaf as I once thought, but a fun track.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 03, 2018, 04:59:09 PM
We used to have a lake house in Leelanau County, miss it.

The first big course I played was the current day Mantiou Passage, right when it opened. I was in 7th grade. Played it again 4-5 years ago on a vacation, still was a blast. Not quite as daunting going up the side of Sugar Loaf as I once thought, but a fun track.

I've played it.  Formerly King's Crossing, a Palmer design.   The Homestead bought it a few years ago and almost took it private, but they didn't pull the trigger.   It has some beautiful views.  I may play it again this week.  It is the closest thing to destination public golf there is on the Leelanau peninsula.   I am not sure my 11 year old is ready for that much course, though.   Sugarloaf, on the other side of the hill from Manitou Passage.    Bahle Farms.    Mistwood.  The Dunes.    Of course, the unreachable, untouchable, ungettable, insanely private jewel is Crystal Downs, 40 minutes south.   
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 03, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
I forgot to add Cedar River at the Shanty Creek resort as very good, and the Chief, across the street from the Shanty Creek resort as one I won't ever play again. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 03, 2018, 08:20:10 PM
I've played it.  Formerly King's Crossing, a Palmer design.   The Homestead bought it a few years ago and almost took it private, but they didn't pull the trigger.   It has some beautiful views.  I may play it again this week.  It is the closest thing to destination public golf there is on the Leelanau peninsula.   I am not sure my 11 year old is ready for that much course, though.   Sugarloaf, on the other side of the hill from Manitou Passage.    Bahle Farms.    Mistwood.  The Dunes.    Of course, the unreachable, untouchable, ungettable, insanely private jewel is Crystal Downs, 40 minutes south.   

Our old neighbor was an area realtor, he was a member at Crystal Downs. Never knew it was a big deal back then.

I didn't know the Homestead bought it, thanks for the info. I couldn't imagine it thriving as a private though unless they would open it to the resort guests.

My dad used to tell a really bad joke about the Bear Lake course on 31 everytime we passed it. Something about a man killing his wife on the course.
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Post by: rocket surgeon on August 03, 2018, 09:03:08 PM
   "... we might do Sand Valley..."

   chili, or anyone else for that matter-have you played sentry world?  about 45 min northeast of wisco rapids.  i think it had a face lift about 5 years ago?  back in it's day, before the blackwolfs, erin hills, whistlings, etc.  it was probably one of the top few premier courses in the state.  they are not doing badly trying to keep up with the jones's
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Post by: PTM on August 03, 2018, 09:11:13 PM
   "... we might do Sand Valley..."

   chili, or anyone else for that matter-have you played sentry world?  about 45 min northeast of wisco rapids.  i think it had a face lift about 5 years ago?  back in it's day, before the blackwolfs, erin hills, whistlings, etc.  it was probably one of the top few premier courses in the state.  they are not doing badly trying to keep up with the jones's

It's still a top 100 public course.
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Post by: Chili on August 04, 2018, 11:42:15 AM
   "... we might do Sand Valley..."

   chili, or anyone else for that matter-have you played sentry world?  about 45 min northeast of wisco rapids.  i think it had a face lift about 5 years ago?  back in it's day, before the blackwolfs, erin hills, whistlings, etc.  it was probably one of the top few premier courses in the state.  they are not doing badly trying to keep up with the jones's

I've only been there for the old WISAA State Tennis Championships back in my glory days of the mid to late 90s.

As for golf, we thought about it for a pre or post round after Lawsonia but didn't do it this year. Maybe next. I have to say though that Lawsonia is now one of my favorite courses to play - especially for what you pay. It's so much fun but we'll have to see if we can swing a round elsewhere next time we're in that neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 04, 2018, 11:53:39 AM
Callaway Supersoft

I used to always use Nike PD Soft but when they got out of the golf market I had to switch.

Man I miss those Nike golf balls. Ironically enough, golf equipment was the only thing I actually bought from Nike.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 04, 2018, 04:00:37 PM
My all-time low round was 81, and that was back in 2005! When I break 90, I do a happy dance. I once shot a 102 at Medinah that included an amazing birdie on the signature par-3 ... and I felt I actually had played pretty well, which should tell anybody all they need to know about my game. On most typical public courses, I shoot in the low- to mid-90s from 6000-6200 yards.

So guys like Goose and tower probably would never want to play with me ... even though I'm a really fun golfer.

My scoring is hurt mostly by my horrific game around the greens - I'm a good putter but I chip like shyte and I am a travesty in bunkers. Also, I almost always have a couple of blow-up holes in a round ... tough to score when you card a 7 and a 9. I could be 5-over after 10 holes and feeling like, "hey I'm gonna really have a good one today," and then I get a snowman -- d'oh!

I'm actually fairly valuable in a team tournament setting because I have a high handicap (obviously) and get lots of dots on the scorecard, but I hit it pretty long and I am more than capable of parring even difficult holes. So if there is a low-handicapper in my group, as well as a 9 or 10, they can carry my arse most of the time but I can pull out a coupla pars on tough "2-dot" holes.

And, again, I have a lot of fun when I golf. Love to bust everybody's chops, especially my own!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2018, 04:04:20 PM
I've only been there for the old WISAA State Tennis Championships back in my glory days of the mid to late 90s.

As for golf, we thought about it for a pre or post round after Lawsonia but didn't do it this year. Maybe next. I have to say though that Lawsonia is now one of my favorite courses to play - especially for what you pay. It's so much fun but we'll have to see if we can swing a round elsewhere next time we're in that neck of the woods.

you are the 2nd person within a week to echo this sentiment(lawsonia).  the other was during a random conversation with a patient of mine.  he favors the links course.  and this guy has golfed a lot of courses as well.  the wife and i are gonna do these courses on our 34th anniversary

as for balls du jour-     anything pro v's(doesn't everyone?)
                                 taylormade tour preferred
                                 kirkland signatures

   you can get any of these for decent prices during off season online deals at rockbottom golf or costco(if you're a member)

my favorite?  anything that goes in the hole, eyn'a?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 04, 2018, 05:10:29 PM
Driving north today, stopped at Arcadia Bluffs.  My wife groused a little as we pulled in about stopping to sightsee at a golf course.   Until we got to the club house and the veranda overlooking  the course and down to Lake Michigan. She declared the view as good as anything on Northern Michigan, wants to ride along with me when I play it, and declared it worth the $200 per round they charge.  If she can't ride along, she is more than willing to sit on the veranda sipping drinks until I return.  However, we all agree it is a waste of money to pay that much for the 11 year old to shoot 250 and lose two dozen balls.

The course is that beautiful.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 04, 2018, 05:24:30 PM
Driving north today, stopped at Arcadia Bluffs.  My wife roused a little as we pulled in about stopping to sightsee at a golf course.   Until we got to the club house and the veranda overlooking  the course and down to Lake Michigan. She declared the view as good as anything on Northern Michigan, wants to ride along with me when I play it, and declared it worth the $200 per round they charge.  If she can't ride along, she is more than willing to sit on the veranda sipping drinks until I return.  However, we all agree it is a waste of money to pay that much for the 11 year old to shoot 250 and lose two dozen balls.

The course is that beautiful.

If you want a nice course for the 11 year old to try out I know quite a few around that area.

The whole extended family used to make a trip up to the Frankfort/Sleeping Bear Dunes area every summer and Dad and I played quite a few rounds up there.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 04, 2018, 05:58:09 PM
Thanks.  I know the area well.   My wife had never seen the AB view before.
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Post by: MU82 on August 04, 2018, 06:17:12 PM
My most-holes golf trip was to Tullymore and St. Ives back in 2008, my last full summer as a Midwesterner.

We played 18 on Thursday afternoon at some course on the way, 36 on Friday and 36 on Saturday at T/SI and then 18 on Sunday morning before driving back to Chicago.

That's 108 holes in about 72 hours, for those scoring at home.

Ibuprofen very necessary. My best round was the very last one, when I think my body was so sore I couldn't over-swing!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 04, 2018, 09:47:47 PM
My most-holes golf trip was to Tullymore and St. Ives back in 2008, my last full summer as a Midwesterner.

We played 18 on Thursday afternoon at some course on the way, 36 on Friday and 36 on Saturday at T/SI and then 18 on Sunday morning before driving back to Chicago.

That's 108 holes in about 72 hours, for those scoring at home.

Ibuprofen very necessary. My best round was the very last one, when I think my body was so sore I couldn't over-swing!

My most holes ever? 100 - in one day! Last October, Bear's Paw Country Club, Naples, Fl. Played alone, but had drivers and a "gallery" that came and went as the day went on. Hit the first ball at 7:10, sank the final putt at 5:15. Regular men's tees, 6115 yards (I'm old - 69 at the time), shot 82, 79, 84, 86 (swooning a bit), 81, 41 for nine and a par 4 on #10. Reason? I was resigning my position on the board of a Chicago mental health charity due to relocating to Florida - so one final personal fundraiser. Netted just over $10,000, so a happy ending to the day - but I had no interest in playing for more than a week.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jmayer1 on August 04, 2018, 11:49:18 PM
Nm
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Post by: MU82 on August 05, 2018, 01:54:34 PM
My most holes ever? 100 - in one day! Last October, Bear's Paw Country Club, Naples, Fl. Played alone, but had drivers and a "gallery" that came and went as the day went on. Hit the first ball at 7:10, sank the final putt at 5:15. Regular men's tees, 6115 yards (I'm old - 69 at the time), shot 82, 79, 84, 86 (swooning a bit), 81, 41 for nine and a par 4 on #10. Reason? I was resigning my position on the board of a Chicago mental health charity due to relocating to Florida - so one final personal fundraiser. Netted just over $10,000, so a happy ending to the day - but I had no interest in playing for more than a week.

Nice, Lenny.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 06, 2018, 09:45:59 AM
Very impressive, Lenny. Plus, I love your relocation destination. I hope to joining you in Naples in a decade.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MUINGB on August 06, 2018, 10:43:44 AM
Nice Lenny, but back to the golf balls.   What ball do we recommend for a 90's shooter, an old guy that needs more distance?  I have heard to use only the extra soft or womens golf balls.        Any thoughts on this guys? 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: mu03eng on August 06, 2018, 11:02:27 AM
My all-time low round was 81, and that was back in 2005! When I break 90, I do a happy dance. I once shot a 102 at Medinah that included an amazing birdie on the signature par-3 ... and I felt I actually had played pretty well, which should tell anybody all they need to know about my game. On most typical public courses, I shoot in the low- to mid-90s from 6000-6200 yards.

So guys like Goose and tower probably would never want to play with me ... even though I'm a really fun golfer.

My scoring is hurt mostly by my horrific game around the greens - I'm a good putter but I chip like shyte and I am a travesty in bunkers. Also, I almost always have a couple of blow-up holes in a round ... tough to score when you card a 7 and a 9. I could be 5-over after 10 holes and feeling like, "hey I'm gonna really have a good one today," and then I get a snowman -- d'oh!

I'm actually fairly valuable in a team tournament setting because I have a high handicap (obviously) and get lots of dots on the scorecard, but I hit it pretty long and I am more than capable of parring even difficult holes. So if there is a low-handicapper in my group, as well as a 9 or 10, they can carry my arse most of the time but I can pull out a coupla pars on tough "2-dot" holes.

And, again, I have a lot of fun when I golf. Love to bust everybody's chops, especially my own!

For all sorts of reasons I think you and I would have a helluva time golfing together including we are basically the same golfer. Love to play, especially with friends but I'm a feast or famine type on the course. I will go par, triple, birdie, snowman, par, double, double, triple, birdie on a semi-regular basis. I struggle in two areas: consistency and overthinking. I can hit an amazing approach shot and chunk an easy wedge or I'll hammer a 300 yard drive(GPS verified) down the fairway then skull an iron shot when I should be in easy position for a GIR. Only thing I'm consistently average to above average with is my putter.

One thing I'm working on a little more this season is just getting up and hitting the ball and not spending so much time thinking through the shot and practicing too much. Haven't been at as much but I think it'll pay off.

Generally to the thread, for those that want to improve or have improved, what is your one or two tips to get better at the game?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 06, 2018, 11:08:20 AM
Nice Lenny, but back to the golf balls.   What ball do we recommend for a 90's shooter, an old guy that needs more distance?  I have heard to use only the extra soft or womens golf balls.        Any thoughts on this guys? 


Try the Bridgestone e6 Speed.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MUfan12 on August 06, 2018, 11:21:07 AM
Nice Lenny, but back to the golf balls.   What ball do we recommend for a 90's shooter, an old guy that needs more distance?  I have heard to use only the extra soft or womens golf balls.        Any thoughts on this guys?

Callaway Superhot gave some extra distance, but I could tell a difference around the greens.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 06, 2018, 11:45:23 AM
MU82

Your blow up holes are much like my game. Only problem for me is, back in the day two blow up holes would give me a 76 or 77. Now it is 3-5 blow up holes and I am shooting 88. I have played more this year than I have in a long time and my game is slightly improving. Almost like when I was a kid trying to break 80 for the first time, I have the same mental block in breaking 80 again. It has been too long and when I do break it, I will be very excited.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 06, 2018, 12:15:14 PM
I love playing g golf with anybody who plays relatively quickly and who laughs a lot.  Slow, dour golfers.... ick. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: mu03eng on August 06, 2018, 12:39:32 PM
Also, how does the general pop of this thread feel about music on the cart? OK with it in your cart or no? Hate it, ok with it, love it as you come across others on the course playing music?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 06, 2018, 12:58:52 PM
Very impressive, Lenny. Plus, I love your relocation destination. I hope to joining you in Naples in a decade.

Come visit sooner, Goose. Lunch and a round at Bear's Paw is on me.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 06, 2018, 01:00:27 PM
If the music is playing the whole time at the same volume, fine.  Unexpected noises in the middle of your swing (phone, change, velcro, cough) are the issue.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 06, 2018, 01:01:55 PM
I love playing g golf with anybody who plays relatively quickly and who laughs a lot.  Slow, dour golfers.... ick.

+1000. "Off season" we play in 3 hours 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 06, 2018, 01:14:44 PM
Also, how does the general pop of this thread feel about music on the cart? OK with it in your cart or no? Hate it, ok with it, love it as you come across others on the course playing music?

Love music, but on the golf course? Conversations, betting, stories, trash talking and any other kind of back and forth among the 4some should (along with the game) provide the entertainment. Riding around with friends "listening to tunes" makes me think "high school".
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MUfan12 on August 06, 2018, 02:04:38 PM
Love music, but on the golf course? Conversations, betting, stories, trash talking and any other kind of back and forth among the 4some should (along with the game) provide the entertainment. Riding around with friends "listening to tunes" makes me think "high school".

Yup. Don't care for it one bit.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 06, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
Also, how does the general pop of this thread feel about music on the cart? OK with it in your cart or no? Hate it, ok with it, love it as you come across others on the course playing music?

When I play by myself, I usually throw on a podcast while I walk.

Nobody I regularly play with listens to music during a round.

There was one guy in my league that goes through the whole ACDC playlist. I hated that guy, he would roll up in his cart right next to your ball. Park and not think twice about his music. Pretty sure it was on propose. An old guy in the league got into a heated argument about it and ACDC guy was asked to leave the league. We know have a rule that all players should agree to allow music, so it hasn't been an issue.

For other groups, keep it within your listening radius, and I'm cool with it. If I hear some crapty country music from the teebox while I'm putting on a par 3, you're an pretty boy.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 06, 2018, 03:08:10 PM
mu03, other than the music thing, we are meant to golf together. Get a couple others, make a 4-some, and have a blast playing Wolf!

Goose, just goes to show everything's relative. I wish I could break 80 ever. For you, not doing so is tragedy! It's like money. I wish I had more than $10 billion, but others just hope for a tiny fraction of that. (Sorry. Meant to say $100 million. My bad.)

tower ... oh yeah ... playing fast is crucial. Back when I was the ranger at a private club for a couple years, I used to occasionally play a quick round solo after my work day. Could play a VERY challenging course in 2:20. Nothing worse than a 5-hour round. It's why I just about never play on weekends.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 06, 2018, 04:13:55 PM
I won a bet by playing 18 holes in 1:45 on an empty course on a Sunday night.  Alone and in a cart, of course.   The trick is finding other 50 something's still willing to walk.

28 putts today.  Chipped really well. Moral?  Hit better irons. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 09, 2018, 06:34:43 PM
If you want a nice course for the 11 year old to try out I know quite a few around that area.

The whole extended family used to make a trip up to the Frankfort/Sleeping Bear Dunes area every summer and Dad and I played quite a few rounds up there.
The answer to the 11 year old golfing issue was Northport Creek.  9 holes, walkable.  2000 yards from the junior tees.  Really smart design because the 9 holes can be played in a 6 hole loop and a 3 hole loop.  All solar powered, two big arrays of panels.   Firm fairways and undulating greens.  Kid had a blast.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 09, 2018, 07:32:29 PM
Eye average 22 putts/rounds and wee talk 'bout hour conquests from back in da dey all round long, hey?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 09, 2018, 11:22:41 PM
I don't golf. Is that a problem?

I was actually a very good golfer in high school but gave it up for control issues.  I have never looked back. I love/hate the sport.  Mostly hate.

That said, I love Ricky Fowler.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 14, 2018, 09:40:49 PM
I don't golf. Is that a problem?

I was actually a very good golfer in high school but gave it up for control issues.  I have never looked back. I love/hate the sport.  Mostly hate.

That said, I love Ricky Fowler.

Control issues as in "I can't hit my driver straight"? Or control issues as in "I hate this effen game so watch me snap my pitching wedge over my knee"?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 15, 2018, 06:57:04 AM
I helicopter clubs from time to time.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: reinko on August 15, 2018, 07:12:01 AM
Anyone gonna make the pilgrimage to the Black for the PGA next May?  My inlaws live in Bethpage so I think I might swing down from Boston.

Any tips on going to a major?  Been to plenty of PGA events in the past...was thinking of going a combo of Wed/Thur so see the most/best action.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on August 15, 2018, 08:31:29 AM
Anyone gonna make the pilgrimage to the Black for the PGA next May?  My inlaws live in Bethpage so I think I might swing down from Boston.

Any tips on going to a major?  Been to plenty of PGA events in the past...was thinking of going a combo of Wed/Thur so see the most/best action.

I went to the US Open at Bethpage, since that was my home courses growing up and lived only 15 minutes away.

No parking at the course, you have to drive to Jones Beach and then get on a bus which drops you at the course.  Out of the way, but it wasn't time consuming, they had plenty of really nice buses. Took my son and we did the practice rounds for two days.  Knowing that Tiger goes off at like 7:00am for practice, we took an early bus and then asked a course employee where Tiger was starting.  It was like on hole #10 and when we found him, there was only like 25 of us following him.  It was awesome, then an hour later there were hundreds.  After an hour or so, walked around following others, then sat above hole #17, a par 3 which had great sight lines to 16, 17 and 18.  Next day, went to a few holes early and watched the groups come through.  Great experience and the crowds were nothing compared to the weekend.

So, if you want to see the players up close and watch them, go early on the practice rounds.  You want the experience of being there for the competitive aspect and the atmosphere, go on the weekend. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: reinko on August 15, 2018, 08:38:25 AM
I went to the US Open at Bethpage, since that was my home courses growing up and lived only 15 minutes away.

No parking at the course, you have to drive to Jones Beach and then get on a bus which drops you at the course.  Out of the way, but it wasn't time consuming, they had plenty of really nice buses. Took my son and we did the practice rounds for two days.  Knowing that Tiger goes off at like 7:00am for practice, we took an early bus and then asked a course employee where Tiger was starting.  It was like on hole #10 and when we found him, there was only like 25 of us following him.  It was awesome, then an hour later there were hundreds.  After an hour or so, walked around following others, then sat above hole #17, a par 3 which had great sight lines to 16, 17 and 18.  Next day, went to a few holes early and watched the groups come through.  Great experience and the crowds were nothing compared to the weekend.

So, if you want to see the players up close and watch them, go early on the practice rounds.  You want the experience of being there for the competitive aspect and the atmosphere, go on the weekend.

Thanks!  My inlaws actually live right in Bethpage, and I can actually walk to the course from their house, so no need for buses  8-)
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 15, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
Would you rather:    A.   Play a tough course that you know is going to kick your butt and shoot a high score?
                              B.   Play an easy course that you know you can post a really good number on?

It is the same kind of argument that we have about MU's OOC scheduling.   Personally, I like to get my butt kicked, knowing that it will make the occasional par round on a tough course even sweeter.     However, there is nothing wrong with shooting par on a 6500 yard, slope 120 cupcake to get the swing back in sync.   

And if possible, playing a tour course or US Open venue and taking my 95 is totally acceptable. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: JWags85 on August 15, 2018, 06:06:23 PM
Anyone get wedges recently?  Need to add a couple to my bag.  56 and either a 58 or a 60.  My sister is dating a teaching pro and he's steering me towards Vokeys.  I figured either that or Cleveland coming in.

Also, anyone else play a non-standard PW?  I have a some wear on the standard PW that came with my set and figured I might add one as well, have all 3 wedges uniform.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 15, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
I picked up Vokey SM 6's over the winter.  Can't beat the feel of a Vokey.  However, I would definitely hit the Cleveland's.   You may decide you want the CBX s for your PW, GW and one of their others for your 56.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 15, 2018, 09:26:26 PM
I've always loved Callaway wedges. The PM Grind is a superior product that should be replicates into the MD4 line.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MUfan12 on August 16, 2018, 09:57:57 AM
Never played the Vokey's, but I have a Cleveland 54 and 60 in the bag and really like them.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: StillAWarrior on August 16, 2018, 10:39:08 AM
Would you rather:    A.   Play a tough course that you know is going to kick your butt and shoot a high score?
                              B.   Play an easy course that you know you can post a really good number on?

Generally, I go with "C.  Play an easy course that kicks my butt and shoot a high score."  Because I suck.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 16, 2018, 10:45:15 AM
My son and I are playing Dubsdread at Cog Hill on Saturday. Curious on who has played there and thoughts. I have walked the course many times when PGA stop, but never played there. Just decided we are playing the Blue tees and very jacked up.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: mu03eng on August 16, 2018, 01:51:40 PM
Would you rather:    A.   Play a tough course that you know is going to kick your butt and shoot a high score?
                              B.   Play an easy course that you know you can post a really good number on?

It is the same kind of argument that we have about MU's OOC scheduling.   Personally, I like to get my butt kicked, knowing that it will make the occasional par round on a tough course even sweeter.     However, there is nothing wrong with shooting par on a 6500 yard, slope 120 cupcake to get the swing back in sync.   

And if possible, playing a tour course or US Open venue and taking my 95 is totally acceptable.

I'd go with B. Got talked into playing Sweetgrass from the tips as part of a 2 man scramble last Friday. Held my own but it jacked up my swing for the round the next day because I had to swing out of my shoes (or thought I did) and was still struggling when I played 9 last night.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: LAZER on August 16, 2018, 02:09:13 PM
Would you rather:    A.   Play a tough course that you know is going to kick your butt and shoot a high score?
                              B.   Play an easy course that you know you can post a really good number on?

It is the same kind of argument that we have about MU's OOC scheduling.   Personally, I like to get my butt kicked, knowing that it will make the occasional par round on a tough course even sweeter.     However, there is nothing wrong with shooting par on a 6500 yard, slope 120 cupcake to get the swing back in sync.   

And if possible, playing a tour course or US Open venue and taking my 95 is totally acceptable.
Out of curiosity, where have you played a 6500yd 120 slope?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 16, 2018, 02:16:38 PM
West Michigan.   Yesterday.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 16, 2018, 10:33:59 PM
My son and I are playing Dubsdread at Cog Hill on Saturday. Curious on who has played there and thoughts. I have walked the course many times when PGA stop, but never played there. Just decided we are playing the Blue tees and very jacked up.

I played there many times, Goose, but last time was probably 2007 or 2008. So I don't know if they've made any changes. It's a very difficult but very fair test. Like most difficult courses, if you live off of the fairway, you're in trouble. Hit the short stuff, and you've got a chance.

Being a high-handicapper, I never played from the tips. You sound like a good player, so maybe that's what you'll do. THAT would be a major test.

The first few holes are the easiest. You definitely want to make hay early, so I recommend getting nice and warmed up before you tee off No. 1

Whenever I played it, I found the course to be in exquisite condition despite the fairly high number of rounds it logged. The Jemseks did a great job with it. I loved Cog #2, as well. It's challenging but a little more sporty and definitely more walkable.

Good luck. Let us know how it went!

BTW, I played today on a course nowhere near as good or challenging as Dubs. I needed to par my last two to shoot 90 - which is pretty good for me, bogey golf. And I actually got the pars; my birdie putt on 18 burned the hole even.

But had I been playing Dubs today, I probably wouldn't have sniffed 100.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 17, 2018, 07:50:28 AM
MU 82

Thanks for the Dubs info. As I mentioned, I have been there a dozen times watching the Tour guys, but first time on the course as a player tomorrow.

We debated between gold and blue tees and decided on the blue. The tips were never in play. Twenty years ago I would have jumped at playing the tips, now I know my limitations.

I am very jacked to play and hoping to continue my minor golfing resurgence. My best round this year was Erin Hills and hoping this historic track brings out my best.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 17, 2018, 04:12:13 PM
Got Sunday Masters tickets for next year. Anyone been?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 17, 2018, 04:38:34 PM
PTM

Congrats. Only been a practice round and top five highlight of my golfing life. Have a blast!!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on August 17, 2018, 04:40:01 PM
Got Sunday Masters tickets for next year. Anyone been?

The mountain top.   Enjoy. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: reinko on August 17, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
Got Sunday Masters tickets for next year. Anyone been?

Ass.  I must have entered online for the past 6 years, with zip.

But nonetheless, congrats.

Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: HansMoleman on August 17, 2018, 05:41:40 PM
Got Sunday Masters tickets for next year. Anyone been?
I got 2 for Saturday.  I too would love to hear from anyone who's been.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 17, 2018, 05:42:29 PM
I plan on gift shopping hard, let me know if you guys want anything.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 17, 2018, 06:46:38 PM
I went to the 2008 Masters.

One of the most boring Masters ever, won by one of the least accomplished Masters champions ever.

Trevor Immelman led from wire-to-wire and never was challenged on Sunday, when he built a 2-stroke lead on the 5th hole and nobody ever got closer. Tiger finished second, but he never threatened, losing by 3 strokes after making a meaningless birdie on 18. (Who could have guessed that Tiger would win the U.S. Open a couple months later and then never win another major?!?!)

Aside from the lack of drama, however, the experience was outstanding.

The weather was close to perfect all weekend, the grounds were in perfect condition, the entire facility actually exceeded my very lofty expectations going in. I am a skeptic by nature, and I was determined not to fawn over the place ... and I failed. It was too beautiful and all I could think (the first day especially) was how lucky I was to be there.

A few impressions -- keeping in mind that some of these things might have changed:

++ I was shocked at how inexpensive the food was. Pimento cheese sammiches (local treat), $1.50, soda $1, beer $2. Other food similarly cheaper than ballpark food was 25 years earlier.

++ Souvenir prices were higher but not outrageously so. I bought a couple of Ben Hogan polos (still have 'em, still wear 'em, still in good shape), a hat (still have it and wear it occasionally but not for golf because I don't want to mess it up), a greens tool/ballmarker set, a few other things. They weren't "cheap," but they weren't nearly as expensive as I expected. They did have plenty of outrageously priced things, and kitschy things though. A set of 4 wine glasses - $360; a "special edition" keychain - $79; apron/oven mitt/potholder set - $25, etc.

++ I walked the course every day and it was challenging. There are a lot more hills and valleys than appear on TV.

++ No cellphones were allowed for the actual tournament days (they were for practice rounds). It was a nice respite from the things. Maybe they've changed this rule.

++ I asked an official where I could go to avoid the huge crowds yet still get the full Masters experience, and he suggested the small viewing area near the 11th tee. Sure enough, there weren't a lot of people there even though some big-name groups were coming through. After a few groups hit, I went down the fairway. From there I could see both the 11th and 12th greens.

++ As a sportswriter, I signed up for the lottery to play on the Monday after the tournament. Unfortunately, I wasn't chosen. It's supposedly a random thing, but I was warned that those covering the Masters for the first time almost never get "randomly" selected, so I wasn't too disappointed. I'm not sure the course could have survived me!

I couldn't justify spending $350/night for a crappy motel in Augusta, so I stayed outside of Columbia, about an hour away -- an easier trip than, say, Chicago to Joliet. There was a lot to choose from there.

There ya go ... a 5-minute Masters primer. Your results may vary!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Herman Cain on August 17, 2018, 08:17:28 PM
Anyone gonna make the pilgrimage to the Black for the PGA next May?  My inlaws live in Bethpage so I think I might swing down from Boston.

Any tips on going to a major?  Been to plenty of PGA events in the past...was thinking of going a combo of Wed/Thur so see the most/best action.
I like to go on Thurs and follow the players I am interested  all the way around the course  and then on Sun I pick an early group to watch around the course and then watch the leaders come in.

Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 17, 2018, 08:23:16 PM
The one thing I've always been curious about are the greens at Augusta. I want to go just to see the slopes and reads they're having to deal with that the TV doesn't show.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Goose on August 20, 2018, 10:01:44 AM
MU 82

We played Dubs on Saturday and very much enjoyed the course. It was in very good condition, minus many traps being partially washed out, but very wet. It played very long and the bunkers were a half shot penalty due to the condition. I did not hit the ball at all, with exception of the five greens I hit in regulation, and putting my way to an 89. Very good course and we will return. I felt it was well worth the $155 in green fees.

That said, aside from the the course, I found it to be a strange place. Customer service was not strong, amenities so-so and had a feel of a Door County resort golf from the 70's. I need to Whistling Straits amenities, but thought they are missing the boat on sprucing up the place and the staff.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 20, 2018, 11:12:46 AM
MU 82

We played Dubs on Saturday and very much enjoyed the course. It was in very good condition, minus many traps being partially washed out, but very wet. It played very long and the bunkers were a half shot penalty due to the condition. I did not hit the ball at all, with exception of the five greens I hit in regulation, and putting my way to an 89. Very good course and we will return. I felt it was well worth the $155 in green fees.

That said, aside from the the course, I found it to be a strange place. Customer service was not strong, amenities so-so and had a feel of a Door County resort golf from the 70's. I need to Whistling Straits amenities, but thought they are missing the boat on sprucing up the place and the staff.

Glad to hear you had fun, Goose. It's always tough to play an already-challenging course in wet conditions.

I'd have spun cartwheels if I ever shot an 89 at Dubs -- different folks, different expectations. And different strokes -- in my case, a lot of strokes every round - ha!

Sorry to hear that about the customer service and "un-spruced-up" facility. It was always in great shape when I played it 10+ years ago, and I always thought I was treated well.

If you do feel like returning, I'd also recommend #2. Very good course - or at least it was.

Actually, my favorite Jemsek course wasn't Cog but Pine Meadow up in Mundelein. I used to like playing there on a weekday afternoon, walking. Very walkable, very good test of golf, very beautiful property, very reasonable walking rates. Heck, I just checked it now and the twilight weekday walking rate is still only $41. (Cart is an extra 10-11, I think.) But again, I haven't played there since 2009, so I can't vouch for the conditions now.



Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on August 20, 2018, 05:03:53 PM


++ I was shocked at how inexpensive the food was. Pimento cheese sammiches (local treat), $1.50, soda $1, beer $2. Other food similarly cheaper than ballpark food was 25 years earlier.   I went to the Wednesday practice round this year.  Beer was $5 for a 16 oz pour.  The pimento cheese sammie was horrible (IMHO) but hte $3 BBQ was outstanding.

++ Souvenir prices were higher but not outrageously so. I bought a couple of Ben Hogan polos (still have 'em, still wear 'em, still in good shape), a hat (still have it and wear it occasionally but not for golf because I don't want to mess it up), a greens tool/ballmarker set, a few other things. They weren't "cheap," but they weren't nearly as expensive as I expected. They did have plenty of outrageously priced things, and kitschy things though. A set of 4 wine glasses - $360; a "special edition" keychain - $79; apron/oven mitt/potholder set - $25, etc.  I got out of the merchandise "tent" with only $400 in damage.  I overheard some talking about the $1,000s they spent.  It wouldn't be hard to do.  But if you want Master's attire or anything else Master's, it's the only place to get it.

++ I walked the course every day and it was challenging. There are a lot more hills and valleys than appear on TV.  It's definitely more hilly than you can imagine by just watching on TV.  It's also more green than you can imagine.  Everything is green, including the beer cups I had and the sandwich wrappers, so if you drop one, it'll look green on TV.

++ No cellphones were allowed for the actual tournament days (they were for practice rounds). It was a nice respite from the things. Maybe they've changed this rule.  This is still the rule, even for the Wednesday practice round.  You could take a camera but not a phone/camera.  There are banks of phones though so if you need to make a call, you can do so anywhere in the country.

I couldn't justify spending $350/night for a crappy motel in Augusta, so I stayed outside of Columbia, about an hour away -- an easier trip than, say, Chicago to Joliet. There was a lot to choose from there.  We flew into Charlotte, stayed and played at the Ballantyne, and made the 2 1/2 hour trip the following day to Augusta.  The parking is free, but get there early.   

There ya go ... a 5-minute Masters primer. Your results may vary!  Fantastic experience.  Keep putting your name in the lottery and go when you can!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 20, 2018, 06:02:18 PM


Thanks for adding your perspective.

Those are still fairly cheap food/bev prices, but that is a 150% increase in beer in only 10 years time! I actually love pimento cheese, but I agree those sammiches blow.

I spent about $200 on souvies. As I said, I still have everything except I lost the little ball marker.

If you go again, and come through Charlotte again, and want to get together for a beer, PM me.

I might go back to the Masters someday, but if I do it won't be as a member of the media. So there will be no lottery for me to enter to play on Monday.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on August 20, 2018, 06:25:57 PM
Thinking about staying in Charlotte as well, golfing area until Sunday. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 20, 2018, 07:01:33 PM

Actually, my favorite Jemsek course wasn't Cog but Pine Meadow up in Mundelein. I used to like playing there on a weekday afternoon, walking. Very walkable, very good test of golf, very beautiful property, very reasonable walking rates. Heck, I just checked it now and the twilight weekday walking rate is still only $41. (Cart is an extra 10-11, I think.) But again, I haven't played there since 2009, so I can't vouch for the conditions now.

Mike - Only played Dubs twice, but played Pine Meadow 20+ times. Both great tracks but Pine Meadow, though challenging, was more playable for the average golfer. Last time I played there (2015?) the greens were damaged by some kind fungus - but it was still fun.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 20, 2018, 10:06:36 PM
Mike - Only played Dubs twice, but played Pine Meadow 20+ times. Both great tracks but Pine Meadow, though challenging, was more playable for the average golfer. Last time I played there (2015?) the greens were damaged by some kind fungus - but it was still fun.

Glad to hear you enjoyed Pine Meadow. I hope they no longer have fungus among us!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on August 20, 2018, 10:07:12 PM
Thinking about staying in Charlotte as well, golfing area until Sunday. Any recommendations?

PM me with some specific questions if you have them. I'll be happy to answer best I can.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: cheebs09 on September 10, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
Tiger within shouting distance at another tournament in the final round. He’s starting to put it together more in tournaments, just needs to figure out how to break through.

If he can get a win before Augusta, I think he could be a strong contender. Trying to win for the first time in awhile at the Masters wouldn’t be an easy task.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on September 10, 2018, 01:04:50 PM
Tiger within shouting distance at another tournament in the final round. He’s starting to put it together more in tournaments, just needs to figure out how to break through.

If he can get a win before Augusta, I think he could be a strong contender. Trying to win for the first time in awhile at the Masters wouldn’t be an easy task.

Right now, he's kind of Matt Kuchar. Obviously talented, has all the shots, just can't quite put everything together. Of course, one could argue that's not entirely fair to Kuchar, who actually wins a tournament every now and again while saving most of his choking for the majors.

It would be a great thing for golf if Tiger can be Tiger circa 2005 at Augusta. It's already good for golf that he is contending again.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: mu03eng on September 10, 2018, 01:10:28 PM
Right now, he's kind of Matt Kuchar. Obviously talented, has all the shots, just can't quite put everything together. Of course, one could argue that's not entirely fair to Kuchar, who actually wins a tournament every now and again while saving most of his choking for the majors.

It would be a great thing for golf if Tiger can be Tiger circa 2005 at Augusta. It's already good for golf that he is contending again.

I was listening a podcast where one of the folks brought up a really good point....if you look at how Tiger is approaching tournaments this year it is definitely to make cuts and play as many rounds as possible. He doesn't start to get aggressive per se until Saturdays (has the best Saturday scoring average of anyone on the tour this season). As he starts to feel more comfortable that he can sustain aggression across 4 days you'll see him start to score on Thursdays and Fridays. He shouldn't need to heroic Sunday results to contend, he'll be there when the round starts on Sunday.

I don't think Swashbuckling Tiger comes back, but I've never been more confident that Tiger has 3 more majors in him before he's done. I think next year's Masters is a must see for Tiger barring some sort of health setback or him being "Mr Come for Your Girl" with DJ or something like that.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on September 10, 2018, 02:02:41 PM
I was listening a podcast where one of the folks brought up a really good point....if you look at how Tiger is approaching tournaments this year it is definitely to make cuts and play as many rounds as possible. He doesn't start to get aggressive per se until Saturdays (has the best Saturday scoring average of anyone on the tour this season). As he starts to feel more comfortable that he can sustain aggression across 4 days you'll see him start to score on Thursdays and Fridays. He shouldn't need to heroic Sunday results to contend, he'll be there when the round starts on Sunday.

I don't think Swashbuckling Tiger comes back, but I've never been more confident that Tiger has 3 more majors in him before he's done. I think next year's Masters is a must see for Tiger barring some sort of health setback or him being "Mr Come for Your Girl" with DJ or something like that.

Interesting viewpoint, mu03.

I don't know about 3 more majors, but I'd be surprised if he never wins another. And sure, 2 or 3 or more are possible ... just as they are possible for any of the very good players on tour.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on September 20, 2018, 07:08:56 PM
Tiger with a share of the lead on Thursday.

Will he finally notch a win heading into Paris?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 21, 2018, 01:43:22 PM
-1 threw 3 tadey four da leed, hey?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on September 21, 2018, 04:58:46 PM
That double hurt.

Tied for the lead going into the weekend. Can't be too disappointed, I suppose.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on September 21, 2018, 05:01:14 PM
I thought this was about me shooting 77 in the wind.  But, nooooooo.   Tiger, Tiger, Tiger.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Herman Cain on September 22, 2018, 03:55:59 PM
Tiger is now firmly in control of the world of golf again. Everyone else is playing for second. The intimidation factor is definitely there.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on September 22, 2018, 04:22:43 PM
Tiger is now firmly in control of the world of golf again. Everyone else is playing for second. The intimidation factor is definitely there.

How do you think Tiger fairs in the Ryder?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on September 23, 2018, 07:28:28 AM
Tiger is now firmly in control of the world of golf again. Everyone else is playing for second. The intimidation factor is definitely there.

Rory and Justin Rose are only 3 shots back and they are not going to be intimidated by anyone.  The pairing of Rory and Tiger will be fun to watch, and with NFL today, the remote control will get a workout.  I hope Tiger can hold on, will be good for the game headed into Ryder Cup.

As for the Ryder Cup, rumors out there have Tiger and DeChambeau playing together. Mickelson has been playing like dog poop lately, he is 23 shots behind Tiger and this string of Fed Ex tournaments have probably tired him out.  Will be interesting how many matches he plays. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: WarriorFan on September 23, 2018, 07:31:11 AM
Would you rather:    A.   Play a tough course that you know is going to kick your butt and shoot a high score?
                              B.   Play an easy course that you know you can post a really good number on?

It is the same kind of argument that we have about MU's OOC scheduling.   Personally, I like to get my butt kicked, knowing that it will make the occasional par round on a tough course even sweeter.     However, there is nothing wrong with shooting par on a 6500 yard, slope 120 cupcake to get the swing back in sync.   

And if possible, playing a tour course or US Open venue and taking my 95 is totally acceptable.
In fact I enjoy both and like to mix it up, but generally bury the ego and choose (a), a philosophy that has enabled me to play the Gary Player course at Sun City, The National at Cape Shank, Pinehurst #2, Whistling straits, Scotscraig, Kingsbarns, the Presidio, terrey Hills in Sydney, Brookwater in Brsibane, TPC stadium course, Thai Country Club, Royale Jakarta, Sentosa, DLF near New Delhi, and a few more... all have been great experiences despite high scores.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on September 23, 2018, 03:00:18 PM
This is beautiful to watch.

Tiger with an outside shot to win the FedEx cup right now
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on September 23, 2018, 04:40:18 PM
So Justin Rose needs to birdie the easy 18th for 10 million dollars.  Crazy. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on September 23, 2018, 04:56:08 PM
Incredible scene on 18
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on September 23, 2018, 05:01:26 PM
I think tiger still moves the needle for golf.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on September 23, 2018, 05:39:27 PM
Didn't see it because I was at the Panthers game, but good for Tiger and good for golf. Saw a highlight of the scene on No. 18, and that was definitely cool.

Not a major, of course, but the next best thing. We'll see if he can build on it at the Ryder Cup.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on October 03, 2018, 05:55:21 PM
Tiger is now firmly in control of the world of golf again. Everyone else is playing for second. The intimidation factor is definitely there.
Apparently not during the Ryder cup
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Herman Cain on October 05, 2018, 10:59:59 PM
Apparently not during the Ryder cup
He has never been a great Ryder Cup player. It is not his thing.

Tiger will be the favorite in every major next year.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on October 06, 2018, 05:18:01 AM
https://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/2018/10/05/iowa-golf-team-disqualified-rules-violation/

A confusing story.   Buried deep is the important nugget.   The Marquette Invitational played at Erin Hills. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on October 06, 2018, 09:08:52 AM
He has never been a great Ryder Cup player. It is not his thing.

Tiger will be the favorite in every major next year.

He'll probably be the betting favorite, just as the Cubs and Cowboys and Yankees and Notre Dame usually are, because people are stupid.

As for whether he actually has a better chance to win each major than any other competitor ... let's talk after he has won a major - something he will not have done for 10 years, 10 months when he steps to the first tee at Augusta.

I'm a Tiger fan, and I believe he will win another major (or two), but he faces much sterner competition now, and he's an "old man" by golf standards. So we'll see.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on October 18, 2018, 08:07:13 PM
https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/tiger-says-he-sucked-at-the-ryder-cup-because-he-was-tired-from-being-unexpectedly-good-this-year
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on October 21, 2018, 10:24:37 PM
Haven't had a new club in 5 years. Irons are even older. Most of my bag has been hand me downs from my father. So, I spent my Saturday afternoon at Club Champion getting a full bag fit (minus the putter, because my ping anser is never leaving my bag).

200+ swings later, I've got a whole new bag.

Titleist TS2
Cobra F8 hybrid
Mizuno JPX919 hot metal
Cleveland RTX4

Experience was pretty solid at the place. Knowledgeable staff. Very high tech.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on October 22, 2018, 06:02:58 AM
Haven't had a new club in 5 years. Irons are even older. Most of my bag has been hand me downs from my father. So, I spent my Saturday afternoon at Club Champion getting a full bag fit (minus the putter, because my ping anser is never leaving my bag).

200+ swings later, I've got a whole new bag.

Titleist TS2
Cobra F8 hybrid
Mizuno JPX919 hot metal
Cleveland RTX4

Experience was pretty solid at the place. Knowledgeable staff. Very high tech.

That's a pretty, pretty, pretty nice bag.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on October 22, 2018, 07:15:28 AM
If you live in the north, you may only use all of your shiny new toys once before the snow falls and by spring you will have forgotten all of those cool tips they were giving you at Club Champion.   However, being properly fit should save you 3 shots a round. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on October 22, 2018, 10:21:15 AM
That's a pretty, pretty, pretty nice bag.

Yea. Happy with it.

During my fitting, 2 "regulars" came in to get some slight adjustments to their wedges. The guy fitting me told me those 2 had spent over $50k in the last year alone on equipment in their shop (They bought multiple sets of PXG and the like).

And I thought mine was pricey....
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on October 22, 2018, 10:44:15 AM
If you live in the north, you may only use all of your shiny new toys once before the snow falls and by spring you will have forgotten all of those cool tips they were giving you at Club Champion.   However, being properly fit should save you 3 shots a round.

Yea, I may not make it out on the course before the snow. But we've got a few ranges around here that are multi-level and heated, so I'll be sure to get out before spring and hit the new stuff.

This was a big purchase and I intend to keep them for the better part of a decade, assuming nothing drastic happens with the clubs or my body.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on October 22, 2018, 11:38:23 AM
Yea. Happy with it.

During my fitting, 2 "regulars" came in to get some slight adjustments to their wedges. The guy fitting me told me those 2 had spent over $50k in the last year alone on equipment in their shop (They bought multiple sets of PXG and the like).

And I thought mine was pricey....

Did you go to Willowbrook? How was it?

I'm debating about going this winter for a putter fitting. It's the one thing I don't think my local guy really has figured out. I've gone through a lot of putters in the three years I've been playing. I have an Evnroll now, and I like it, but I'm not 100% on the thing. Otherwise, I'm happy with my bag.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on October 22, 2018, 01:38:05 PM
Did you go to Willowbrook? How was it?

I'm debating about going this winter for a putter fitting. It's the one thing I don't think my local guy really has figured out. I've gone through a lot of putters in the three years I've been playing. I have an Evnroll now, and I like it, but I'm not 100% on the thing. Otherwise, I'm happy with my bag.

Indianapolis. I had a great experience.

I did go through the putter testing/fitting. I think it would be helpful if you were having difficulties. I told them what I expected on the course and during my fitting and they were very amenable to everything. Obviously, it will be different folks for you. But the facility, equipment and tech was top-notch.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: reinko on October 22, 2018, 01:53:33 PM
Did you go to Willowbrook? How was it?

I'm debating about going this winter for a putter fitting. It's the one thing I don't think my local guy really has figured out. I've gone through a lot of putters in the three years I've been playing. I have an Evnroll now, and I like it, but I'm not 100% on the thing. Otherwise, I'm happy with my bag.

My putter is the only decent club in my bag these days.  Been rolling an SC TeI3 Newport since I wanna say 1999? 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU B2002 on October 22, 2018, 01:56:16 PM
My putter is the only decent club in my bag these days.  Been rolling an SC TeI3 Newport since I wanna say 1999?


Terillyum (sic)  Nice.

I have been using my SC Oilcan Catalina since 1998.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 22, 2018, 02:07:49 PM
Eye'm pretty fond of my putter too, hey?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU82 on October 23, 2018, 10:14:49 AM
Eye'm pretty fond of my putter too, hey?

Dat makes won purson den, oona?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on October 23, 2018, 10:20:07 AM
My putter is the only decent club in my bag these days.  Been rolling an SC TeI3 Newport since I wanna say 1999? 

Scotty refinishing is a hobby I've taken up over the winters and I've been on the look for a Tel3 for this winter. Love the spots on the back, classic look.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on November 01, 2018, 09:39:07 AM
Holly Sonders dropped from Fox golf broadcasts.   I may stop watching.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: mu03eng on November 01, 2018, 09:43:09 AM
Speaking of bags, in the market for a new one, any suggestions? Half the time I carry, the other half is cart. I like a kick stand bag with cross shoulder straps
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on November 01, 2018, 09:49:44 AM
I like Sun Mountain.  The are the only ones that build a bag where the club heads sit on your left shoulder.  I play golf right-handed , but am left-handed in many other things and have developed an idiosyncrasy where that is the only way I carry clubs.   As a golfer who walks and carries, this is my only choice.

Sun Mountain makes a good bag.   For carrying, Ping Hoofer is probably the lightest.   I have never owned a cart bag, so I cannot comment.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU B2002 on November 01, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
I like Sun Mountain.  The are the only ones that build a bag where the club heads sit on your left shoulder.  I play golf right-handed , but am left-handed in many other things and have developed an idiosyncrasy where that is the only way I carry clubs.   As a golfer who walks and carries, this is my only choice.

Sun Mountain makes a good bag.   For carrying, Ping Hoofer is probably the lightest.   I have never owned a cart bag, so I cannot comment.

I have carried various Ping Hoofer bags for 15+ years.  Great quality and always seems to sit low, which is essential in windy conditions.  Sun Mountain is great as well.

As someone who hasn't bought a bag in awhile I was shocked to see what new bags are selling for these days.


Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on November 01, 2018, 10:01:40 AM
Keeping in line with the rest of golf equipment.  Club$, $hoe$.... oy.   Ball prices are manageable.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: RJax55 on November 01, 2018, 10:19:07 AM
Speaking of bags, in the market for a new one, any suggestions? Half the time I carry, the other half is cart. I like a kick stand bag with cross shoulder straps

Go with Sun Mountain. They are pricey, but the bags last. I've never had an issue with rips, zippers, etc. with a Sun Mountain bag. Can't say the same with others.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU B2002 on November 01, 2018, 10:21:23 AM
Ball prices are manageable.

Speaking of, I switched to the Snell MTB two years ago after many years of ProV, B330, etc.  Have never been happier with a ball's performance, price and durability.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on November 01, 2018, 10:25:27 AM
I am of the opinion that the high end golf balls are great as a gift but completely overrated when spending your own money.  E6s and Duos have produced a whole bunch of rounds in the 70s this year for me.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on November 01, 2018, 10:45:53 AM
Holly Sonders dropped from Fox golf broadcasts.   I may stop watching.
That's almost bad enough to give up the game.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 01, 2018, 11:22:13 AM
Keep an eye on Rock Bottom Golf... they'll run solid deals on some nice bags.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Chili on November 01, 2018, 11:49:36 AM
I am have been using Ping Hoofer bags since 1999. I just updated to a new one in 2016 because I wanted to change up the look but I love them.

As for the rest of the stuff:

Shoes: FootJoy FreeStyle. I have 2 pairs. Great shoes that fit jacked up wide feet.
Ball - I made the switch to Vice Pro+ 2 years ago from B330 and haven't missed a beat. For $25 a box and getting them red(ish) is great.
Clubs: Ping G35 4-SW, Cleveland RTG 60*
Driver: Callaway XR-16
FW (3-5): Callaway XR-16 (just a coincidence same as driver and was not the plan at all. I just hit them really solid.
Putter: Ping Sigma G - my putting has never been better.

Oakley Sliver Prizm Sunglasses - these have changed my game since I have gotten them. They make seeing everything on the course so much brighter. Really helps with greens.

Head Covers (Woods & Putter): Rose & Fire. Quality is awesome and so are the designs. https://www.roseandfire.com/ (https://www.roseandfire.com/)

Player Towel: https://store.nolayingup.com/collections/towels/products/no-laying-up-repeat-logo-towels (https://store.nolayingup.com/collections/towels/products/no-laying-up-repeat-logo-towels)



Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on November 01, 2018, 11:59:38 AM
Driver:  rogue sub-zero
3 wood:  tour exotics EX 10 beta
3-4 hybrid :  tour exotics EX 10
5-gw:  Wilson C200
52-56 degree wedges:  Vokey SM6
Putter:  rotate 3 depending on which is behaving or misbehaving.
Wilson duo's, Bridgestone E6s
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 03, 2018, 08:42:12 PM
  anyone try the toulan putters? 

     i just can't get myself to spend that kind of money on one club that is usually the first to go air born.  just kidding about the air born. but, i go to golf galaxy, hit a few, find one that feels good, go on ebay and buy one usually under $100,  that wasn't abused and put a super stroke 5.0 on it and hit it until i need something to blame again.   an odyssey versa #1 reverse oreo right now


save my money for the other clubs
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on November 04, 2018, 05:42:31 AM
  anyone try the toulan putters? 

     i just can't get myself to spend that kind of money on one club that is usually the first to go air born.  just kidding about the air born. but, i go to golf galaxy, hit a few, find one that feels good, go on ebay and buy one usually under $100,  that wasn't abused and put a super stroke 5.0 on it and hit it until i need something to blame again.   an odyssey versa #1 reverse oreo right now


save my money for the other clubs

It's the most used club in the bag, I think you need to reserve your thinking.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on November 04, 2018, 07:34:27 AM
  anyone try the toulan putters? 

     i just can't get myself to spend that kind of money on one club that is usually the first to go air born.  just kidding about the air born. but, i go to golf galaxy, hit a few, find one that feels good, go on ebay and buy one usually under $100,  that wasn't abused and put a super stroke 5.0 on it and hit it until i need something to blame again.   an odyssey versa #1 reverse oreo right now


save my money for the other clubs
Putting is about belief.    As well as speed and line.    If you believe the putter is the right one for you and that it gives you better feel, then it does.    If you believe your putter is possessed by demons, hates you, and is incapable of making that 3 ft down hill putt, then it is. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 04, 2018, 07:22:28 PM
Putting is about belief.    As well as speed and line.    If you believe the putter is the right one for you and that it gives you better feel, then it does.    If you believe your putter is possessed by demons, hates you, and is incapable of making that 3 ft down hill putt, then it is.

I know I know, drive for show putt for $$$. 

Yes, it’s about feel and balance and ya gotta like what your looking down at.   But over $3 bills, probably 4, or more, she better be good looking and call ya in the morning heyn’a?  I’m still talking about the golf club for those of you from rio linda😜
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on November 22, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
Anyone going to pay to watch the Tiger/Phil match.  They are both miked up and the side bets are going to be crazy, 200K on the first hole alone.  Tempted but $20?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: GGGG on November 22, 2018, 08:32:17 AM
Doesn't it seem like this is something that should have been done ten years ago???
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on November 22, 2018, 08:36:16 AM
Doesn't it seem like this is something that should have been done ten years ago???
10 years ago, Tiger was recovering from a broken leg and was backing over a fire hydrant.    Maybe this would have delayed the exposure of his private life, but I don't know that he was recovered enough from his leg to compete.     

I am ambivalent.   If I don't have anything better to do, I may spend the money. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: GGGG on November 22, 2018, 08:37:12 AM
Well I didn't mean *exactly* ten years ago.  I just don't know if the "Tiger v. Phil" thing is really that much of a thing right now.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on November 22, 2018, 08:40:49 AM
I believe its still there, but not as much as like years ago. 

My son thinks they are going to do insane side bets each hole, like closet to pin, sandys, etc.  So, based on that I am in with the hype and probably going to watch it. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2018/11/21/why-watch-tiger-woods-phil-mickelson-match/2075199002/
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on November 22, 2018, 09:51:40 AM
It's $5/hour. I'm watching to see the broadcast value. Drones, mics, live probabilities and side bets.

This could really change how golf is broadcast.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: cheebs09 on November 22, 2018, 10:35:02 AM
Doesn't it seem like this is something that should have been done ten years ago???

This is kind of like the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight happening well after their primes. Although, they did do that Battle of Bighorn type of stuff and both were involved in at least one match.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: WarriorDad on November 23, 2018, 02:54:53 PM
It's $5/hour. I'm watching to see the broadcast value. Drones, mics, live probabilities and side bets.

This could really change how golf is broadcast.

Have it on in 4K, the course looks amazing considering it is in the middle of the desert.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on November 23, 2018, 03:17:04 PM
Same here.  Course beautiful

Only bad thing, too much Ernie Johnson and yacky Class clown Jacobson.  Thought announcers were to be minimum and listen to players, not announcers.  Also do without twitter reactions. 

Tiger flaring tee shots to right, not a good thing.  Hope match goes long, not short.  Be nightmare for all.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on November 24, 2018, 06:45:06 AM
That was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: GGGG on November 24, 2018, 07:33:35 AM
Well due to technical issues, they had to make it free for everyone and are refunding all who purchased it.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on November 24, 2018, 09:03:09 AM
The broadcast was very well done, obviously Chuck and Sam we're over the top, but there is much to be learned from this.

1. PGA Tour needs more match play events.
2. PGA Tour needs more featured matches during televised events instead of the constant switching. Outside of Augusta, the broadcast never highlights the architecture in terms of strategy. The Match did this extremely well.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2018, 02:00:48 PM
74.    24 putts.   Fairways running fast and firm.    Partners pissed.    Golf in December rocks. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: barfolomew on December 19, 2018, 02:28:58 PM
74.    24 putts.   Fairways running fast and firm.    Partners pissed.    Golf in December rocks.

Hey, not bad for 9 holes!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2018, 03:20:02 PM
Nicely done.   Not accurate, but nicely done.   
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: StillAWarrior on December 19, 2018, 03:21:56 PM
Nicely done.   Not accurate, but nicely done.   

Yeah, for me it would be eight holes, not nine.  I usually run out of balls somewhere around that point.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2018, 03:26:00 PM
The course owner was almost as giddy as we were.   When we checked in, he said he already had 18 groups coming out today.    Found money for him. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: theBabyDavid on December 19, 2018, 03:52:24 PM
I played Pings for years but bought PXG Gen 2s this past year. Stellar clubs.

Very soft, very forgiving with a big sweet spot. These sticks have incredible feel and are worth every penny. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2018, 04:10:02 PM
May they bring you happiness.  And may they float when they stop bringing you happiness.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: JWags85 on December 19, 2018, 04:20:08 PM
Have a set of Vokey SM7s coming for Christmas. 54 and a 60, also getting a 46 to replace my PW that some lowlife lifted off a practice green last summer.  Pretty excited.

Also in the market for a new flat stick. Anyone have recos? I was a mallet guy for most of my youth, but am leaning towards a blade, but I do like a soft face. Looked at Ping Ansers a bit, as well as Odyssey
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on December 19, 2018, 05:05:27 PM
Have a set of Vokey SM7s coming for Christmas. 54 and a 60, also getting a 46 to replace my PW that some lowlife lifted off a practice green last summer.  Pretty excited.

Also in the market for a new flat stick. Anyone have recos? I was a mallet guy for most of my youth, but am leaning towards a blade, but I do like a soft face. Looked at Ping Ansers a bit, as well as Odyssey

Get fitted for the putter, it'll change your world
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on December 19, 2018, 07:56:14 PM
Have a set of Vokey SM7s coming for Christmas. 54 and a 60, also getting a 46 to replace my PW that some lowlife lifted off a practice green last summer.  Pretty excited.

Also in the market for a new flat stick. Anyone have recos? I was a mallet guy for most of my youth, but am leaning towards a blade, but I do like a soft face. Looked at Ping Ansers a bit, as well as Odyssey

I’ve always been a Vokey fan and am in need of new wedges.  The reviews on Cleveland’s RTX4s are outstanding and the pro I occasionally take lessons from says The RTX4 wedges are better and it’s the first time in several years Cleveland has put a top wedge out there.  Does anyone have them?

As for putter... definitely get fitted.  If you live in Milwaukee do yourself a favor and see David Roesch and get fitted with the SAMputtlab.  I played a mallet until I got fitted and it changed things dramatically as I now play a Scotty blade 2 inches shorter than my old putter
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on December 19, 2018, 08:50:13 PM
I’ve always been a Vokey fan and am in need of new wedges.  The reviews on Cleveland’s RTX4s are outstanding and the pro I occasionally take lessons from says The RTX4 wedges are better and it’s the first time in several years Cleveland has put a top wedge out there.  Does anyone have them?

As for putter... definitely get fitted.  If you live in Milwaukee do yourself a favor and see David Roesch and get fitted with the SAMputtlab.  I played a mallet until I got fitted and it changed things dramatically as I now play a Scotty blade 2 inches shorter than my old putter

I really want to look at the RTX4s. So clean.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
I picked up the Vokey SM6's on clearance last year for $90 each.  I just had a round with 24 putts, including a chip in after not playing for 6 weeks.  I am not in the market for wedges.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on December 19, 2018, 09:30:10 PM
I picked up the Vokey SM6's on clearance last year for $90 each.  I just had a round with 24 putts, including a chip in after not playing for 6 weeks.  I am not in the market for wedges.

How about you keep your humble brags to one thread? Don't ruin NM for me.

I'm happy with the bag outside of wedges and putter, which happen to be the only clubs I haven't been fit for. Wedges are a mix of Mack Daddys, putter is going to get figured out Friday at Club Champion.

Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: theBabyDavid on December 20, 2018, 02:04:36 AM
Have a set of Vokey SM7s coming for Christmas. 54 and a 60, also getting a 46 to replace my PW that some lowlife lifted off a practice green last summer.  Pretty excited.

Also in the market for a new flat stick. Anyone have recos? I was a mallet guy for most of my youth, but am leaning towards a blade, but I do like a soft face. Looked at Ping Ansers a bit, as well as Odyssey

Wags
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: theBabyDavid on December 20, 2018, 02:15:32 AM
Have a set of Vokey SM7s coming for Christmas. 54 and a 60, also getting a 46 to replace my PW that some lowlife lifted off a practice green last summer.  Pretty excited.

Also in the market for a new flat stick. Anyone have recos? I was a mallet guy for most of my youth, but am leaning towards a blade, but I do like a soft face. Looked at Ping Ansers a bit, as well as Odyssey

Wags,

I share your enthusiasm for Vokey wedges. I carry 54 through 60 in my bag and love the precision they give me under 100 yards. My favorite sticks.

As for putters, I have a Hickory Stick hickory shaft which was a gift from my father. Beautiful piece of gear. The face is indented which makes the ball roll smoother.

If you really do want a mallet I would recommend he Bettinardis. I had a Mizuno Bettinardi which I won in a tournament in Japan which was really nice. I gave it to a colleague as I already had my Hickory Stick.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on December 20, 2018, 07:53:20 AM
How about you keep your humble brags to one thread? Don't ruin NM for me.

I'm happy with the bag outside of wedges and putter, which happen to be the only clubs I haven't been fit for. Wedges are a mix of Mack Daddys, putter is going to get figured out Friday at Club Champion.

As above, I got a full bag fit at club champion. They carry the Cleveland wedges. That's what I ended up buying. Haven't hit them yet.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on December 20, 2018, 08:28:58 AM
How about you keep your humble brags to one thread? Don't ruin NM for me.

I'm happy with the bag outside of wedges and putter, which happen to be the only clubs I haven't been fit for. Wedges are a mix of Mack Daddys, putter is going to get figured out Friday at Club Champion.
No humble brag.   I had a great day golfing in December.     
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on December 20, 2018, 09:06:55 AM
No humble brag.   I had a great day golfing in December.     

(https://media.tenor.com/images/80cb627756f64451c7d5384e13680b95/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on December 20, 2018, 09:07:40 AM
As above, I got a full bag fit at club champion. They carry the Cleveland wedges. That's what I ended up buying. Haven't hit them yet.

Curious, how did the wedge part go? Bounce selection scares me.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: RJax55 on December 20, 2018, 09:10:14 AM
If you really do want a mallet I would recommend he Bettinardis. I had a Mizuno Bettinardi which I won in a tournament in Japan which was really nice. I gave it to a colleague as I already had my Hickory Stick.

I've had owned many putters, but it is difficult to beat the feel and craftsmanship of a Bettinardi. Currently rolling the Kuchar 2 arm-lock mallet.

For guys in the Chicago-area, or even the Midwest, looking for a Bettinardi and a putter fitting, can't recommend Bettinardi's Studio B enough. Great fitting and awesome experience seeing the factory first-hand.
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Post by: JWags85 on December 20, 2018, 09:48:54 AM
Wags,

I share your enthusiasm for Vokey wedges. I carry 54 through 60 in my bag and love the precision they give me under 100 yards. My favorite sticks.

Awesome.  And yea, the RTX4s are really sharp.  I hit those and the Vokeys, liked them pretty equally.  Talked to my sister's bf who is a teaching pro at two of the top CCs in the Dallas area and he snap replied with Vokeys (his sponsorship/relationship isnt with Titleist either which helped my decision)

As for putters, I have a Hickory Stick hickory shaft which was a gift from my father. Beautiful piece of gear. The face is indented which makes the ball roll smoother.

If you really do want a mallet I would recommend he Bettinardis. I had a Mizuno Bettinardi which I won in a tournament in Japan which was really nice. I gave it to a colleague as I already had my Hickory Stick.

Best putter I ever knew personally was a doctor at the CC i hung around as a kid.  Had me caddy for him for club tourneys cause he knew me through golfing and his daughter played soccer with my sisters.  Had a Hickory Stick and was a sniper with it.  I'll look into Bettinardi's.  Putting was always a strength of my game, even playing with an old mallet I got 20 years ago for $40.  An upgraded weapon is something I'm excited for.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on December 20, 2018, 11:30:47 AM
https://www.scottycameron.com/archives/putters/2012/california/sonoma/

This is the putter I have.  Its a medium for those who have tried blades and mallet styles. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on December 21, 2018, 01:06:46 PM
Just got back from Club Champion in Deerfield. Quick note before getting into it, their CEO is a Marquette golf alumni. Very cool.

I walked in, and purposely left all putters at home (current gamer is in Florida). I wanted no preconceived notions of my putter preferences or style. The fitter asked about my game, I explained my difficulties. He had me grab a similar putter to my gamer and warm up. Once warmed up, I hit seven balls with the SAMPutt Lab. Made 5 of the 7 at 10 feet, pretty proud of myself. The fitter instantly said we're going to make some instant changes, but let's look at the results.

Surprisingly, I have a very consistent putting stroke. However, the stroke itself hit a draw due to needing a massive lie angle adjustment. I was a bit inconsistent with the putter face, which we helped out with a bigger grip.

We hit Scottys, Bettinardis, Odyssey and Ping putter. Mostly all blade or mid-mallets, I have never gamed a blade putter, so that shocked me. After adjustments and tinkering, I feel so much better about the putter. This really made an incredible difference in feel and pace.

I ended up with an Odyssey #2. Really excited to get it.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 21, 2018, 01:58:57 PM
Always good ta have a consistent stroke, hey?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on December 21, 2018, 01:59:47 PM
Just got back from Club Champion in Deerfield. Quick note before getting into it, their CEO is a Marquette golf alumni. Very cool.

I walked in, and purposely left all putters at home (current gamer is in Florida). I wanted no preconceived notions of my putter preferences or style. The fitter asked about my game, I explained my difficulties. He had me grab a similar putter to my gamer and warm up. Once warmed up, I hit seven balls with the SAMPutt Lab. Made 5 of the 7 at 10 feet, pretty proud of myself. The fitter instantly said we're going to make some instant changes, but let's look at the results.

Surprisingly, I have a very consistent putting stroke. However, the stroke itself hit a draw due to needing a massive lie angle adjustment. I was a bit inconsistent with the putter face, which we helped out with a bigger grip.

We hit Scottys, Bettinardis, Odyssey and Ping putter. Mostly all blade or mid-mallets, I have never gamed a blade putter, so that shocked me. After adjustments and tinkering, I feel so much better about the putter. This really made an incredible difference in feel and pace.

I ended up with an Odyssey #2. Really excited to get it.

Glad another had a good experience.

Did you talk about wedges? Or browse their selection?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on December 21, 2018, 02:40:39 PM
Glad another had a good experience.

Did you talk about wedges? Or browse their selection?

We talked wedges and the guy told the truth. It's feel, hard to do off the synthetic indoor setup. Really need a mix of launch monitor and hitting off grass to do the wedges.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: jesmu84 on December 21, 2018, 04:07:53 PM
We talked wedges and the guy told the truth. It's feel, hard to do off the synthetic indoor setup. Really need a mix of launch monitor and hitting off grass to do the wedges.

Yea. The wedge fitting was just okay. They used a bounce board and then had me hit a bunch and asked which one felt/looked the best to me.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Cheeks on December 27, 2018, 11:02:56 AM
Tiger and Phil signed a multi-year deal to do this every Thanksgiving, but with some potential added nuance. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on January 05, 2019, 09:23:12 AM
Looking for some recommendations. Starting our Masters trail in Fort Myers to pick up our clubs on Thursday. Probably play a local course and then drive to North Florida for 18 on Friday. Thinking World Golf Village, but open to recommendations. Staying Friday around there then trekking to Savannah or Charleston on Saturday for another 18. Sunday at Augusta, then red eyeing from ATL to ORD.

Anyone got any courses along that general route? Or want to give us a complete different routing? Starting in Fort Myers is fairly mandatory.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on January 05, 2019, 10:19:03 AM
Looking for some recommendations. Starting our Masters trail in Fort Myers to pick up our clubs on Thursday. Probably play a local course and then drive to North Florida for 18 on Friday. Thinking World Golf Village, but open to recommendations. Staying Friday around there then trekking to Savannah or Charleston on Saturday for another 18. Sunday at Augusta, then red eyeing from ATL to ORD.

Anyone got any courses along that general route? Or want to give us a complete different routing? Starting in Fort Myers is fairly mandatory.

Streamstong in Fort Meade, Fl.  One of best courses/resorts in the state, truly outstanding and you can google the site and reviews. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on January 05, 2019, 11:01:36 AM
Streamstong in Fort Meade, Fl.  One of best courses/resorts in the state, truly outstanding and you can google the site and reviews. 

Yeah, I know Streamsong. It's just not far enough north to work out logistically.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: nyg on January 05, 2019, 02:02:30 PM
Yeah, I know Streamsong. It's just not far enough north to work out logistically.

Just do TPC Sawgrass on the way up. 
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 05, 2019, 09:55:34 PM
Reminded me since I saw it on TV today but I really would like to play Kapalua some day. That 18th hole looks awesome.

(https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2018/03/15/kapalua-plantation-course.jpg)
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on January 05, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
Just do TPC Sawgrass on the way up. 

Yeah, may play Dye Valley there. Won't bother with the stadium course, 6 hour round, yuck
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU B2002 on January 11, 2019, 11:54:21 AM
Looking for some recommendations. Starting our Masters trail in Fort Myers to pick up our clubs on Thursday. Probably play a local course and then drive to North Florida for 18 on Friday. Thinking World Golf Village, but open to recommendations. Staying Friday around there then trekking to Savannah or Charleston on Saturday for another 18. Sunday at Augusta, then red eyeing from ATL to ORD.

Anyone got any courses along that general route? Or want to give us a complete different routing? Starting in Fort Myers is fairly mandatory.

I live in World Golf Village area.  Slammer Squire and King and Bear are both nice (Playing Slammer Squire next week).  Sawgrass is obviously outstanding.  St Johns Golf & Country Club (semi-private) off exit 329 on I-95 is a nice option at about 1/2 the price of WGV course.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on January 11, 2019, 01:58:30 PM
I live in World Golf Village area.  Slammer Squire and King and Bear are both nice (Playing Slammer Squire next week).  Sawgrass is obviously outstanding.  St Johns Golf & Country Club (semi-private) off exit 329 on I-95 is a nice option at about 1/2 the price of WGV course.

So, uh, got any extra beds?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU B2002 on January 11, 2019, 02:18:01 PM
So, uh, got any extra beds?


Can't help you there, but happy to provide suggestions on local area stuff: food, drinks, lodging, etc.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on January 11, 2019, 02:21:18 PM

Can't help you there, but happy to provide suggestions on local area stuff: food, drinks, lodging, etc.

I think we'll be in for one night, so yeah. Probably will AirBnB for the night, unless you have a better suggestion. Need a decent bar to watch Friday Masters round and then dinner later on.

I'm leaning towards WGV for sure. What's the typical round time there? Sawgrass and 5.5-6 hour rounds are scary.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: MU B2002 on January 11, 2019, 02:22:14 PM
I think we'll be in for one night, so yeah. Probably will AirBnB for the night, unless you have a better suggestion. Need a decent bar to watch Friday Masters round and then dinner later on.

I'm leaning towards WGV for sure. What's the typical round time there? Sawgrass and 5.5-6 hour rounds are scary.

Will send you a PM.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 11, 2019, 02:36:35 PM
So, uh, got any extra beds?

Chitter's full, Clark.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 30, 2019, 09:05:41 PM
Got clubhouse tix for tomorrow’s waste management. Get to see some nice golf before the amateurs crowd the place up

Draft kings won’t let me play though-pi$$’s me off.  Because they note my location, they lock me up.  Sent them a note to see if I can get a waver.  My tenure shows that I’m from wisco, but the way the weathers going, not for long...cheezus ⛳️

Anyone know of a way I could block my location or play from somewheres else?  Hey cheeks...🤷🏼‍♂️ Help a brother out?  Baby needs new chews
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Chili on January 30, 2019, 10:02:12 PM
Got clubhouse tix for tomorrow’s waste management. Get to see some nice golf before the amateurs crowd the place up

Draft kings won’t let me play though-pi$$’s me off.  Because they note my location, they lock me up.  Sent them a note to see if I can get a waver.  My tenure shows that I’m from wisco, but the way the weathers going, not for long...cheezus ⛳️

Anyone know of a way I could block my location or play from somewheres else?  Hey cheeks...🤷🏼‍♂️ Help a brother out?  Baby needs new chews

VPN --- though Cheeks frowns upon such chicanery.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 30, 2019, 10:54:44 PM
Quintero golf club, Peoria Az.  Hole #6

Voted Az number 1 public course and rated as high as #14 by golf digest in USA

  Really cool-15 minute ride from clubhouse, up mountain to practice range and hole #1
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on January 31, 2019, 01:08:01 PM
Going for 72 holes for the trip tomorrow morning...
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on February 09, 2019, 01:06:44 PM
Do I watch Pebble Beach or the Marquette game?   Tough call.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 09, 2019, 05:08:08 PM
any of yous guyses see phil's shot from the sand today?  forget which hole, but probably about 150 out, playing to a back pin, hits it over the pin by 10 feet, it takes one bounce into the thick stuff just off the green, it spins back, outta the thick crap to within 2 feet of the cup

never seen a ball spin out of long grass like that...out of the sand!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: RJax55 on February 09, 2019, 05:45:02 PM
Do I watch Pebble Beach or the Marquette game?   Tough call.

One of the best courses in the world, but the AT&T Pro-Am is the worst event on Tour. Thankfully, the Open will be there in June this year.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on February 09, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
Do I watch Pebble Beach or the Marquette game?   Tough call.

Barf
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: barfolomew on February 10, 2019, 12:41:46 AM
Barf

What??  I can't get his priorities straight for him!
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on February 10, 2019, 10:42:35 AM
What??  I can't get his priorities straight for him!


Pebble Beach Saturday is a tough watch.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on February 15, 2019, 12:57:52 AM
Do I watch Pebble Beach or the Marquette game?   Tough call.

Tower, I can’t bear to do it, as you may be THE smartest, most valuable post-er on Scoop...but I may have to put you on “ignore” for this one.

I love playing and watching golf, but this is a pro-AM......and there is nothing worse than watching ultra-rich chops hack away on what should be hallowed ground.

A better question would be: A) watch Pebble Pro-Am or B) watch the ND leprechaun arm wrestle the Greek kid on the end of DePaul’s bench
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on February 15, 2019, 05:47:15 AM
I assumed teal wasn't necessary.  Nothing tops Marquette basketball on my TV watching pantheon.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on February 15, 2019, 03:38:26 PM
I assumed teal wasn't necessary.  Nothing tops Marquette basketball on my TV watching pantheon.

My bad. In fact, my Tower-style “headline” was going to read,
“Tower hits proverbial mid-season wall....loses Teal pen”

But that wouldn’t have fit my narrative, and while you are always about succinct, excellent post-game synopses..Scoop tends to be about narratives ;)
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Sheriff on February 20, 2019, 10:37:04 AM
Congrats to Steve Stricker for being named 2020 Ryder Cup Captain.  I hope your team performs better than you did at Medinah in 2012.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on February 20, 2019, 05:24:28 PM
Congrats to Steve Stricker for being named 2020 Ryder Cup Captain.  I hope your team performs better than you did at Medinah in 2012.

Very meh. Was hoping for a stronger personality to reign in the issues. Maybe for 2022 since 2020 should be a slam dunk.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 22, 2019, 09:52:39 PM
On a more positive note, I regripped a putter for the first time in my life. Wanted to go bigger but not those gigantic grips. Went with a Winn Dri Tac Midsize. Initial results were very promising. Looking forward to improved putting this upcoming season.

(http://www.winngrips.com/media/CACHE/images/products/dri-tac-x-midsize-putter-blueblack-1/6b6f1f89e7ac19f96070081af881fb0d.jpg)
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on February 23, 2019, 06:36:51 AM
Went to the golf show yesterday,  I remember there used to be deals there. Now it's just a room filled with old man flatulence and golf resorts.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: Chili on February 23, 2019, 09:21:21 PM
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Very meh. Was hoping for a stronger personality to reign in the issues. Maybe for 2022 since 2020 should be a slam dunk.

So you expected them to skip the native born son? Your rationale seems flawed. Flawed I saw.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on February 24, 2019, 06:46:42 AM
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So you expected them to skip the native born son? Your rationale seems flawed. Flawed I saw.

I expected it to be Stricker, but not who I wanted.

With Rory dropping his Euro Tour status and Reed picking up a lifetime honorary exception, can we just make that trade happen for 2020?
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 24, 2019, 06:52:16 AM
Very meh. Was hoping for a stronger personality to reign in the issues. Maybe for 2022 since 2020 should be a slam dunk.

it was either steve stricker or john daly.  when they couldn't locate rodney's beer tapper golf bag, daly was out

strick is highly respected in the golf circles-good solid choice
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: cheebs09 on February 24, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
Went to the golf show yesterday,  I remember there used to be deals there. Now it's just a room filled with old man flatulence and golf resorts.

In Milwaukee? I went last year and it was all crazy expensive or crap. I used to buy my drivers there because you could get a really good deal on drivers that were a few years old.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on February 24, 2019, 01:47:08 PM
Check in at this site from time to time.    When it isn't golf show season, they generally have a great selection of drivers from a season or two ago as well as a 'make us an offer' section.      Right now, their selection of great deals are not what they usually are.   

https://maplehillgolf.com/
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: PTM on February 24, 2019, 08:22:08 PM
Check in at this site from time to time.    When it isn't golf show season, they generally have a great selection of drivers from a season or two ago as well as a 'make us an offer' section.      Right now, their selection of great deals are not what they usually are.   

https://maplehillgolf.com/

Maple Hill is pretty awesome, great customer service and usually have better deals on their eBay
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: tower912 on February 24, 2019, 08:29:00 PM
It is even more fun to wander through and see all of the shiny toys.
Title: Re: Golf thread
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 28, 2019, 06:35:34 PM
rickie revises new drop rule just to make sure - i guess the squatting anal height 'bout the same as knee height-the ole "billy"

https://www.golf.com/news/2019/02/28/rickie-fowler-trolls-golf-rule-changes/