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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: WarriorFan on April 25, 2018, 04:47:55 AM

Title: TBT 2018
Post by: WarriorFan on April 25, 2018, 04:47:55 AM
Anyone know if there will be an MU Alum team in TBT 2018?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Warrior Code on April 25, 2018, 03:35:07 PM
I'll play
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GB Warrior on April 25, 2018, 04:34:49 PM
If Rowsey isn't on it it's rigged.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on April 25, 2018, 04:37:03 PM
If Rowsey isn't on it it's rigged.

He probably wouldn't be. Most recent grads don't play because they need to find a steady paying job first.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 25, 2018, 04:38:36 PM
I mean, looks like voting is already well underway and no mention of the MU team anywhere.

Fitz hasn't tweeted anything about the TBT either.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on April 25, 2018, 06:11:52 PM
I haven't gotten any either, the TBT hasen't tweeted anything to me about the tournament since the end of NCAA's.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GB Warrior on April 25, 2018, 06:22:17 PM
He probably wouldn't be. Most recent grads don't play because they need to find a steady paying job first.

Fine, fine. Maybe Wade will retire and take up the mantle.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 25, 2018, 11:13:16 PM
Dont get why novak hasnt been playing, rep ur school
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: BM1090 on April 25, 2018, 11:47:29 PM
Dont get why novak hasnt been playing, rep ur school

He was in the NBA through last year
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: The Lens on April 26, 2018, 08:10:43 AM
Maybe Marquette has gotten to the level of play + support that they don’t need to be voted in.   
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: barfolomew on May 09, 2018, 05:09:08 PM
Golden Eagles Alumni   @GoldenEaglesTBT

So, anything going on this summer? ;)  @MarquetteMBB @BIGEASTMBB #staytuned
2:12 PM - 9 May 2018
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 10, 2018, 07:15:32 AM
Golden Eagles Alumni   @GoldenEaglesTBT

So, anything going on this summer? ;)  @MarquetteMBB @BIGEASTMBB #staytuned
2:12 PM - 9 May 2018

Thank god, this has made the off-season go by so much faster. That one season where there was the TBT and the Europe trip it was like there was no offseason
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on May 10, 2018, 07:18:16 AM
It's really fun. Chick and I made a summer weekend of it last year.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TallTitan34 on May 10, 2018, 08:44:42 AM
Rowsey is perfect for this event.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on May 10, 2018, 08:52:07 AM
Rowsey is perfect for this event.

He really is.  And if he doesn't have a gig.......
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU gimp ONE on May 10, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
I ran into Joe Chapman in February and asked him about the TBT.  I was a "little" tipsy, seeing how it was at Midwinter Brewfest, but I believe he said he isn't playing but would be coaching.  Can't remember if it was with Wes or instead of Wes.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 10, 2018, 11:02:05 AM
If wade is done do you think he'd be up to play?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 10, 2018, 11:28:15 AM
If wade is done do you think he'd be up to play?

Why would he want to?  Serious question.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 10, 2018, 11:49:02 AM
Why would he want to?  Serious question.

Idk, fun? Wear the MU jersey one last time? Get the old FF crew back together for one last go round
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: cheebs09 on May 10, 2018, 12:08:18 PM
Idk, fun? Wear the MU jersey one last time? Get the old FF crew back together for one last go round

Are we sure he wouldn’t play for the UGA alumni team?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: mug644 on May 10, 2018, 12:26:39 PM
If wade is done do you think he'd be up to play?

Has any retired NBA superstar played in TBT?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: burger on May 10, 2018, 12:37:13 PM
You guys honestly have no clue......

Even in retirement.....

Wade's "appearance" fee will be in the 6 digits......

And if he makes it to the Hall of Fame......

That will likely continue for the next 10 years......

He will do some stuff for free for "favorite" charities or maybe some Marquette functions.....

He will never play in a 3 on 3 tournament......

Back in the day......Used to work in the same building as "Walter" and knew his comings and goings because we helped him out with his computers.....He had people/appointments coming in all day long to want to sign him to "contracts/deals" and give him "monies".....All day.....Every day.....and those were the ones where he actually took the appointments......
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 10, 2018, 01:01:03 PM
Has any retired NBA superstar played in TBT?

Not that I am aware of.

I am not much of an NBA fan, and last year, I only recognized a handful of names that weren't Marquette players, and even then, most of those I remembered from their college days.

Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: mug644 on May 10, 2018, 01:19:21 PM
Not that I am aware of.

I am not much of an NBA fan, and last year, I only recognized a handful of names that weren't Marquette players, and even then, most of those I remembered from their college days.

After posting my question, I found on wikipedia the following sentence: "TBT has previously had a number of current and former National Basketball Association (NBA) players participate, including Jason Williams, Dahntay Jones, Mike Bibby, Royal Ivey, Matt Bonner, and Brian Scalabrine." Not exactly superstars.

I agree it would be thrilling to have Wade join the MU TBT team. I also think the question of "why would he want to?" is pertinent. And, I agree that he's more likely to go for paid appearances than to play in TBT.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 10, 2018, 02:40:04 PM
It was a hyperbolic suggestion in the first place guys...

But since it's now treated as a real suggestion, of course there's no there's no chance.

You guys honestly have no clue......

Even in retirement.....

Wade's "appearance" fee will be in the 6 digits......

And if he makes it to the Hall of Fame......

That will likely continue for the next 10 years......

He will do some stuff for free for "favorite" charities or maybe some Marquette functions.....

He will never play in a 3 on 3 tournament......

Back in the day......Used to work in the same building as "Walter" and knew his comings and goings because we helped him out with his computers.....He had people/appointments coming in all day long to want to sign him to "contracts/deals" and give him "monies".....All day.....Every day.....and those were the ones where he actually took the appointments......

I seem to recall him showing up to madness and scrimmaging during the NBA lockout my junior year. Doubt MU paid him six digits for that...
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on May 10, 2018, 02:58:20 PM
You guys honestly have no clue......

Even in retirement.....

Wade's "appearance" fee will be in the 6 digits......

And if he makes it to the Hall of Fame......

That will likely continue for the next 10 years......

He will do some stuff for free for "favorite" charities or maybe some Marquette functions.....

He will never play in a 3 on 3 tournament......

Back in the day......Used to work in the same building as "Walter" and knew his comings and goings because we helped him out with his computers.....He had people/appointments coming in all day long to want to sign him to "contracts/deals" and give him "monies".....All day.....Every day.....and those were the ones where he actually took the appointments......

If? IF?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

100% chance. First ballot HOFer without a doubt, #3 SG all-time.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on May 10, 2018, 03:18:52 PM
If? IF?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

100% chance. First ballot HOFer without a doubt, #3 SG all-time.
Yep only way he doesn't make it he would prob have to murder someone
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 10, 2018, 03:23:20 PM
It was a hyperbolic suggestion in the first place guys...

But since it's now treated as a real suggestion, of course there's no there's no chance.

I seem to recall him showing up to madness and scrimmaging during the NBA lockout my junior year. Doubt MU paid him six digits for that...

There's a lot of difference between showing up to your alma mater for one night to participate in a great school tradition when you don't have anything better to do,  and spending several of your summer weekends in places like Peoria to play what for him would be glorified  pickup ball.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 10, 2018, 03:32:03 PM
Probably means Marquette is already locked into the tourney? Because if not they're already pretty behind.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on May 10, 2018, 03:33:09 PM
It was a hyperbolic suggestion in the first place guys...

But since it's now treated as a real suggestion, of course there's no there's no chance.

I seem to recall him showing up to madness and scrimmaging during the NBA lockout my junior year. Doubt MU paid him six digits for that...

He did.  And a friend of chick jr. outshot him during the 3 point event.  Moreover, you and your fellow classmates drafted him #1 for that contest while one of the greatest 3pt shooters ever remained on the sidelines as Wes, Jimmy and even DWade STHs.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 10, 2018, 03:35:20 PM
He did.  And a friend of chick jr. outshot him during the 3 point event.  Moreover, you and your fellow classmates drafted him #1 for that contest while one of the greatest 3pt shooters ever remained on the sidelines as Wes, Jimmy and even DWade STHs.

God I remember that. Wade went number one overall and was by far the worst shooter of the bunch.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on May 10, 2018, 03:36:44 PM
There's a lot of difference between showing up to your alma mater for one night to participate in a great school tradition when you don't have anything better to do,  and spending several of your summer weekends in places like Peoria to play what for him would be glorified  pickup ball.
I'm sure Gabrielle would be thrilled
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 10, 2018, 03:54:02 PM
He did.  And a friend of chick jr. outshot him during the 3 point event.  Moreover, you and your fellow classmates drafted him #1 for that contest while one of the greatest 3pt shooters ever remained on the sidelines as Wes, Jimmy and even DWade STHs.

Not gonna lie, I was too drunk to notice. Things I remember from that:

High fiving wes

Wade running out when wes was on the microphone.

Jimmys Mohawk
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on May 10, 2018, 04:22:36 PM
God I remember that. Wade went number one overall and was by far the worst shooter of the bunch.

A good lifetime reminder that college kids are and always were pretty stupid.  Especially stupid Frosh.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: cheebs09 on May 10, 2018, 04:24:05 PM
A good lifetime reminder that college kids are and always were pretty stupid.  Especially stupid Frosh.

Or they just wanted a chance to say they played on DWades team.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on May 10, 2018, 04:30:37 PM
Or they just wanted a chance to say they played on DWades team.

Yup.  The chance to win a meaningless 3 point contest with a one trick pony NBA player who lives in the area and if you really want to you can probably find a word with at some point in your life or the chance to lose a meaningless 3 point contest but spend 5 minutes of time with an all time NBA great.  Tough choice.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Warrior Code on May 10, 2018, 05:42:38 PM
There's a lot of difference between showing up to your alma mater for one night to participate in a great school tradition when you don't have anything better to do,  and spending several of your summer weekends in places like Peoria to play what for him would be glorified  pickup ball.

I'm sure Gabrielle would be thrilled


 :( :( :(
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 10, 2018, 08:46:17 PM
I'm sure Gabrielle would be thrilled


I don't know; she seems to be a woman of simple tastes.  I saw her on TV last night getting turned on by a quarter pounder.

https://www.youtube.com/v/CLtGr0g8MQs

Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on May 10, 2018, 08:50:47 PM
Would be great if they could recruit Vander to play on this team. Has the right type of slashing getting to the line type game that would really help the team win.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on May 10, 2018, 08:59:16 PM


I don't know; she seems to be a woman of simple tastes.  I saw her on TV last night getting turned on by a quarter pounder.

https://www.youtube.com/v/CLtGr0g8MQs

DW's sayin' 'I ain't doin' no more BBQ in the backyard woman!'
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on May 10, 2018, 11:10:33 PM


I don't know; she seems to be a woman of simple tastes.  I saw her on TV last night getting turned on by a quarter pounder.

https://www.youtube.com/v/CLtGr0g8MQs
Not Arby's? WTF Wade should file divorce!!!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: hdog1017 on May 18, 2018, 04:17:04 PM
They need to cut Juan Anderson from the TBT team.  I don't know how it's possible but he's gotten worse at basketball. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on May 18, 2018, 10:49:05 PM
Show your support:

https://thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni?type=fan&f=5705bf85bea53620694373

Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on May 19, 2018, 09:55:29 AM
We need a lot more supporters to get eligible. It's a different system than in the past where you could vote daily. Also, we're now in the Northeast region instead of the Midwest.

 Supporter Link  (https://thetournament.com/create-account/fan/570c099bbaf4b425632131)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MomofMUltiples on May 19, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
Also, need to hurry. Top teams by June 1st get in. Or maybe based on past performance they are pretty sure they’ll get an at-large bid.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: WarriorFan on May 19, 2018, 10:29:57 AM
Top 9 fan support teams get in.

We are 23rd now.

Vote early and vote often!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 19, 2018, 12:09:12 PM
I'm guessing they won't need the votes which is why they did it so late. Probably like this for a lot of alumni teams who played in previous years. The tbt knows who jthey get a lot of viewers from
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on May 19, 2018, 02:10:38 PM
Log into my account but won't let me vote.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on May 19, 2018, 03:14:09 PM
Log into my account but won't let me vote.

There's no voting anymore. Just log in and commit to a team.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on May 20, 2018, 01:22:30 PM
Who is on the team?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on May 20, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
Who is on the team?

No one announced yet. Just Chapman as the coach.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: mohara3 on May 20, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
Not sure why Marquette TBT has been quiet so far but I think they are still planning on playing.

I think we should still make sure they get in! That was a lot of fun last year.

Only takes a minute to register...
just click the link, it takes you straight there.

www.thetournament.com/create-account?type=fan&f=592df7f50e521685752967

Would be fun to watch them again this summer!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: The Lens on May 21, 2018, 10:47:43 AM
R-E-L-A-X
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on May 21, 2018, 12:47:03 PM
R-E-L-A-X

He's relaxed... But if you aren't relaxed, I'd suggest this link instead:

https://thetournament.com/create-account/fan/570c099bbaf4b425632131
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on May 21, 2018, 01:28:23 PM
You know..I was the first to post the link  :P
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on May 21, 2018, 01:55:07 PM
You know..I was the first to post the link  :P

And you are leading the fan points. Gotta share the love ;)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Hubert Davis on May 22, 2018, 09:53:33 AM
Buycks
DJO
Vander
Jamil
Davante

Jerel
Novak
Carlino
Burke
Otule
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on May 22, 2018, 11:07:03 AM
Buycks
DJO
Vander
Jamil
Davante

Jerel
Novak
Carlino
Burke
Otule

Is this the actual roster or just your dream team?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MuMark on May 22, 2018, 05:01:21 PM
So far it's
Acker
Trend
Jerel
Carlino

Chapman is the coach
Fitzgerald GM
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on May 22, 2018, 09:23:16 PM
Would be nice if these two young gentleman are on the team
https://www.instagram.com/p/Biwvt_6HvB2/?hl=en&taken-by=chosenjaun
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: zcg2013 on May 23, 2018, 10:39:05 AM
He did.  And a friend of chick jr. outshot him during the 3 point event.  Moreover, you and your fellow classmates drafted him #1 for that contest while one of the greatest 3pt shooters ever remained on the sidelines as Wes, Jimmy and even DWade STHs.

Well, guilty as charged. I was on Wade's team and the kid that outshot him. There were two of us students on the team and the other kid begged to pick Wade. I didn't want to turn down the chance to speak with an all time great. I then got to pick the 3 current players on the team and went with DJO, Jae, and Jake Thomas.

Even though it was dumb to pick Wade, still one of the top 5 moments in my life.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on May 23, 2018, 10:48:08 AM
Well, guilty as charged. I was on Wade's team and the kid that outshot him. There were two of us students on the team and the other kid begged to pick Wade. I didn't want to turn down the chance to speak with an all time great. I then got to pick the 3 current players on the team and went with DJO, Jae, and Jake Thomas.

Even though it was dumb to pick Wade, still one of the top 5 moments in my life.

Tough to blame you. Novak was the obvious choice if you had money on the line. One of the best shooters in world history. But since there wasn't, and Wade is a top 25 all-time player & global icon, you made a defensible choice, would have made the same myself
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on May 23, 2018, 11:11:48 AM
Would be nice if these two young gentleman where on the team
https://www.instagram.com/p/Biwvt_6HvB2/?hl=en&taken-by=chosenjaun

I'm guessing that since Duane couldn't play for TAMU in the NCAA Tournament due to a partially torn ACL he probably won't be healthy enough to play for MU's Alum in the TBT.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on May 23, 2018, 11:39:07 AM
I'm guessing that since Duane couldn't play for TAMU in the NCAA Tournament due to a partially torn ACL he probably won't be healthy enough to play for MU's Alum in the TBT.

His ACL might be torn, but how is his neck doing?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on May 23, 2018, 12:09:19 PM
Well, guilty as charged. I was on Wade's team and the kid that outshot him. There were two of us students on the team and the other kid begged to pick Wade. I didn't want to turn down the chance to speak with an all time great. I then got to pick the 3 current players on the team and went with DJO, Jae, and Jake Thomas.

Even though it was dumb to pick Wade, still one of the top 5 moments in my life.

BEAUTIFUL!  Fantastic story and explanation.  And welcome to active scooping!  Stick around cause I'm sick of reading some of these old 'stick's in the mud'.   ;D
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 24, 2018, 01:50:42 PM
Yessssss!

Just announceed:  Marquette will be hosting an all-Big East section of the tournament in the AL.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/2018/05/24/basketball-tournament-have-all-big-east-pod-marquette/640196002/

This will be awesome!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: drewm88 on May 24, 2018, 02:42:12 PM
Credit to MU and the BE for making this happen.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUfan12 on May 24, 2018, 02:44:19 PM
Hall has Desi and Carrington playing-

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23594670/the-basketball-tournament-feature-big-east-alumni-teams
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on May 24, 2018, 02:50:27 PM
Hall has Desi and Carrington playing-

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23594670/the-basketball-tournament-feature-big-east-alumni-teams

Interesting, I can't remember any recent grads that jumped right into this. Seems like they'd want to secure a regular job first.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on May 24, 2018, 02:56:14 PM
AWESOME!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: barfolomew on May 24, 2018, 03:25:44 PM
Yessssss!

Just announceed:  Marquette will be hosting an all-Big East section of the tournament in the AL.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/2018/05/24/basketball-tournament-have-all-big-east-pod-marquette/640196002/

This will be awesome!

I'm concerned.
We all know how well those East Coast TBT fans travel...

BWAAA HAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUBBau on May 24, 2018, 04:12:30 PM
I just hope tickets don't sellout before my time to purchase them comes up.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: 🏀 on May 24, 2018, 04:54:37 PM
I just hope tickets don't sellout before my time to purchase them comes up.

Your tears are so, so salty.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on May 24, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
We need this young man representing MU at the Al ...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ46uoslVLf/?hl=en&taken-by=slickveez
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on May 24, 2018, 05:51:47 PM
Crap. Right in the middle of Summerfest. Hotels are outrageous. Will hafta stay with a buddy if I come (nh)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 24, 2018, 06:39:59 PM
Crap. Right in the middle of Summerfest. Hotels are outrageous. Will hafta stay with a buddy if I come (nh)

Must not be doing well on the day trading, ayna?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on May 24, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Crap. Right in the middle of Summerfest. Hotels are outrageous. Will hafta stay with a buddy if I come (nh)

McCormick is wide open.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on May 24, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
Must not be doing well on the day trading, ayna?

ay $ is no expense sista. Frugal generally, sure. But, can't bring myself to pay ridiculous amounts no matta the situation *usually*.

Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: avid1010 on May 24, 2018, 10:46:21 PM
Will be fun to see Travis play again.  If Novak is in shape it would sure be fun to watch.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUBBau on May 24, 2018, 11:14:53 PM
Your tears are so, so salty.

Guess I should have used teal
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on May 25, 2018, 08:59:56 AM
Yesterday, The Basketball Tournament (TBT) announced a partnership with the BIG EAST Conference to host a four-team tournament at Marquette University, comprised of alumni teams from four BIG EAST schools.  Alumni teams from Marquette, Georgetown, Seton Hall and St. John's will face off at the Al McGuire Center June 30 and July 1, with the winner advancing to TBT's Super 16. The Marquette team - Golden Eagles Alumni – has made it to TBT’s Round of 8 each of the past two years. Two members from last year’s team – Jamil Wilson & Dwight Buycks – went on to appear in the NBA during the 2017-18 season. The other three alumni teams are new to TBT.

TBT features a 72-team bracket made up of top-notch professional basketball players, featuring former college stars, international basketball stars, ex-NBA players, future NBA players and more competing in a single-elimination 5on5 tournament for a winner-take-all $2 million prize. Fans win 10%, or $200,000, of the $2 million prize.
 
As a valued season ticket member of Marquette basketball, we'd like to offer you an exclusive pre-sale opportunity prior to tickets going on sale to the  general public.  Season ticket members may begin to purchase today at 10 a.m. and general public tickets will go on sale Tuesday, May 28.   All-session (all three games) and single day general admission tickets will be available for purchase and can be done by clicking on the box below. A portion of the tournament's proceeds will benefit the MACC Fund.
 
Purchase TBT Tickets

For more information please call or text the Marquette Ticket Office at 414.288.4668 or email athletics@marquette.edu.

Go Marquette!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 25, 2018, 10:07:08 AM
Got 'em.

But a $24 "convenience fee" on $100 worth of tickets.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/EpZwLq1bn0lXi/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 25, 2018, 10:11:47 AM
Got 'em.

But a $24 "convenience fee" on $100 worth of tickets.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/EpZwLq1bn0lXi/giphy.gif)

Does anyone actually know what the convenience fee is for? I mean if you get them direct from the ticket office what is that fee for?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: barfolomew on May 25, 2018, 10:24:07 AM
Does anyone actually know what the convenience fee is for? I mean if you get them direct from the ticket office what is that fee for?

CONVENIENCE

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jXFoDCPKdFAlbO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MomofMUltiples on May 25, 2018, 10:25:04 AM
Does anyone actually know what the convenience fee is for? I mean if you get them direct from the ticket office what is that fee for?

The fact that you don't have to haul your butt down to the ticket office to pick them up in person...
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Marquette4life on May 25, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
whats the availability for these tickets to general public
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 25, 2018, 10:34:51 AM
whats the availability for these tickets to general public

On Tuesday, anyone can buy whatever's left.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 25, 2018, 10:36:04 AM
The fact that you don't have to haul your butt down to the ticket office to pick them up in person...

So they charge $24 for a phone call and email?  :o
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Marquette4life on May 25, 2018, 10:38:27 AM
On Tuesday, anyone can buy whatever's left.
Chick, do you think there will be a good amount left?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 25, 2018, 10:46:59 AM
Chick, do you think there will be a good amount left?

I have no idea.  I am not sure how many season ticketholders are aware of the tournament, or what the interest level is.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on May 25, 2018, 10:47:30 AM
So they charge $24 for a phone call and email?  :o

I did the entire transaction online.  Untouched by human hands.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on May 25, 2018, 11:21:08 AM
Got 'em.

But a $24 "convenience fee" on $100 worth of tickets.

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Illinois internet tax applied.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Warrior Code on May 25, 2018, 03:04:17 PM
Got 'em.

But a $24 "convenience fee" on $100 worth of tickets.

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Thanks, Arby.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on May 25, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
Diener is coach not playing   :(
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Warrior1969 on May 26, 2018, 06:23:00 AM
Team looks weak compared to last year. How about Gardner? Blue? Novak?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on May 28, 2018, 08:12:32 PM
Buycks was the whole team last year
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Marquette4life on May 29, 2018, 09:38:40 AM
are any tbt tix still available
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 29, 2018, 09:54:30 AM
Team looks weak compared to last year. How about Gardner? Blue? Novak?

Gardner rode the pine last year, IIRC.  Not really the best format for his skills. 

This team needs Buycks or Vander or its not going that deep.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on May 29, 2018, 10:18:41 AM
Gardner rode the pine last year, IIRC.  Not really the best format for his skills. 

This team needs Buycks or Vander or its not going that deep.
Gardner dominated until he ran out of gas.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 29, 2018, 10:32:31 AM
Gardner rode the pine last year, IIRC.  Not really the best format for his skills. 

This team needs Buycks or Vander or its not going that deep.

Can't find any box scores. But Gardner was a dominate force on the team. Until he got whomped by a 7 footer.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 29, 2018, 10:34:04 AM
Can't find any box scores. But Gardner was a dominate force on the team. Until he got whomped by a 7 footer.

Fair enough. I didn't watch a ton of the tbt, just felt like the few times I did he was glued to the pine. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on May 29, 2018, 03:51:19 PM
Still only 6 players?  :-\
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on May 29, 2018, 05:37:44 PM
Fair enough. I didn't watch a ton of the tbt, just felt like the few times I did he was glued to the pine.

Correct dg scored alot
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 29, 2018, 05:50:32 PM
72 teams?

The tourney isn't as selective as it used to be....
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: oldwarrior81 on May 29, 2018, 08:47:36 PM
Can't find any box scores. But Gardner was a dominate force on the team. Until he got whomped by a 7 footer.

Last summer the MU squad was knocked out by alumni from Ohio State.
Sullinger was the big for OSU.  Only goes about 6-8, but had the girth and strength to offset some of the things Davante often could do.
The guards in Buycks and McNeal had rough games against the Buckeyes.  Combined 7 points on 3/13 shooting.

https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/07/ohio_state_alums_reach_final_f.html

The younger Dakich kid (transferred from Michigan to Ohio State) has a 2018 team primarily consisting of former Michigan and Ohio State players.  Something just wrong about that.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Goose on May 30, 2018, 09:18:10 AM
I am looking forward to attending the games. I have enjoyed watching on TV the past couple of years.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on May 30, 2018, 09:29:01 AM
I will be attending for the weekend sessions
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MuMark on June 01, 2018, 03:41:52 PM
Some new additions ....including a free agent who we recruited(iirc)

https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on June 01, 2018, 03:43:51 PM
Derek and Jake should be just what we need
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 01, 2018, 03:54:07 PM
Some new additions ....including a free agent who we recruited(iirc)

https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni

Sort of disappointed in this team and especially disappointed that we couldn't fill it out with actual MU alumni
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 01, 2018, 04:08:06 PM

   pardon my naivety as i have had only a passing knowledge of this tourney, but if it's an alumni team, how does willie atwood fit in?

 they should get stevo for a little outside fire power
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MomofMUltiples on June 01, 2018, 05:14:56 PM
   pardon my naivety as i have had only a passing knowledge of this tourney, but if it's an alumni team, how does willie atwood fit in?

 they should get stevo for a little outside fire power

Are you kidding?  We have Jake Thomas!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 01, 2018, 05:15:40 PM

Are you kidding?  We have Jake Thomas!

Great we'll have the best practice three point shooter out there
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 01, 2018, 06:08:36 PM

Are you kidding?  We have Jake Thomas!

  nope, not kidding- at 6'10/11 stevo launches OVER most defenders and i believe he comes with a little better of a resume, eyn'a?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: forgetful on June 01, 2018, 06:14:27 PM
Some new additions ....including a free agent who we recruited(iirc)

https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni

Is Diener going to play or coach?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 01, 2018, 06:34:50 PM
Some new additions ....including a free agent who we recruited(iirc)

https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni

We were in the running for Atwood when Buzz left. I was surprised he didn't end up at Virginia Tech.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on June 01, 2018, 08:04:28 PM
Is Diener going to play or coach?
Now say PG so he must be playing + DJO. I imagine if Novak wanted to play he would be in.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 05, 2018, 09:25:23 AM
The team isn't very impressive outside of Jerel, DJO and Jamil. What happened to Carlino?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 05, 2018, 09:43:11 AM
The team isn't very impressive outside of Jerel, DJO and Jamil. What happened to Carlino?

Travis?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 05, 2018, 09:45:49 AM
Travis?

Thought he was coaching?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 05, 2018, 09:50:24 AM
Thought he was coaching?

Seems to be a bit of an unknown right now. It said coach but then it changed and he was listed as a PG
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on June 05, 2018, 09:51:09 AM
The team isn't very impressive outside of Jerel, DJO and Jamil. What happened to Carlino?

Carlino was listed for the last two teams and he never showed.  Maybe Dan told him not to bother signing up this time.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on June 05, 2018, 09:58:41 AM
The team isn't very impressive outside of Jerel, DJO and Jamil. What happened to Carlino?
Wojo demotivated him?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GOO on June 06, 2018, 10:46:25 AM
Travis is one of my all time favorite MU players to watch play the game.  Might be worth the trip/admission, to see him play once again.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on June 06, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
https://thetournament.com/bracket
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: hdog1017 on June 06, 2018, 11:35:29 AM
I wonder what the line will be in Delaware on the Marquette-St. John's game. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on June 06, 2018, 12:20:59 PM
Incredibly smart of the tbt guys to do the big east pod. I'm guessing the attendance will be the highest of the tournament at the AL.

also I was correct in assuming marquette was automatically in the tournament. TBT knows where the views come from.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on June 07, 2018, 09:52:38 AM
Derek and Jake should be just what we need
Maybe we can get Todd Mayo and complete the reunion.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on June 27, 2018, 12:29:35 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on June 27, 2018, 02:11:39 PM
Nice!

What's not nice is the 4 dudes on the team that didn't go to Mu. Must have had a hard time this year.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2018, 02:17:46 PM
What's not nice is the 4 dudes on the team that didn't go to Mu. Must have had a hard time this year.

Why is that a problem?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Sawsi on June 27, 2018, 02:20:48 PM
If anyone wants to go and hasn't pulled the trigger on tickets, I have 4 for the full tournament that I can no longer use.  PM me and I can email them over free of charge.  I just don't want them to go to waste.

**#donedeal**
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: barfolomew on June 27, 2018, 02:21:53 PM
What's not nice is the 4 dudes on the team that didn't go to Mu. Must have had a hard time this year.

The only problem I have is that, according to his bio, Cinmeon Bowers' last played professionally overseas "Before 1950".
He may tend to get winded quickly.

https://www.thetournament.com/players/cinmeon-bowers (https://www.thetournament.com/players/cinmeon-bowers)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 27, 2018, 02:47:06 PM
Why is that a problem?

Well it's called the Golden Eagles alumni team and we made a big deal about this being a big east pod and half our team didn't play for us or the Big East. Consider me on the side of disappointed.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2018, 02:51:30 PM
Well it's called the Golden Eagles alumni team and we made a big deal about this being a big east pod and half our team didn't play for us or the Big East. Consider me on the side of disappointed.

I mean it’s basically a bunch of guys players no together in the off season. Don’t worry too much about it.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 27, 2018, 03:05:57 PM
I mean it’s basically a bunch of guys players no together in the off season. Don’t worry too much about it.

I'm not worrying about it by any means I just mean if it's going to be billed as an MU alumni team it should be MU alumni. This is MU and friends or something like Milwaukee b-ball would include that one UW-Milwaukee guy
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on June 27, 2018, 04:30:19 PM
Well it's called the Golden Eagles alumni and guys who wished they were team and we made a big deal about this being a big east pod and half our team didn't play for us or the Big East. Consider me on the side of disappointed.

There.  FIFY
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 27, 2018, 05:34:58 PM
Sort of disappointed in this team and especially disappointed that we couldn't fill it out with actual MU alumni

I'm betting that you would be even more disappointed in the lack of height without those three guys.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on June 28, 2018, 08:30:10 AM
Chat room will be up, yes?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: slack00 on June 28, 2018, 11:30:21 AM
I'm not worrying about it by any means I just mean if it's going to be billed as an MU alumni team it should be MU alumni. This is MU and friends or something like Milwaukee b-ball would include that one UW-Milwaukee guy

Just think of them as post-graduate transfers and call it a day.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: oldwarrior81 on June 28, 2018, 12:05:39 PM
The St. John's, Seton Hall and Georgetown "Alumni" teams all have multiple players that never played college ball in the BigEast.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on June 28, 2018, 12:55:53 PM
So, who's going besides me and Glow?

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Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 28, 2018, 01:12:22 PM
The St. John's, Seton Hall and Georgetown "Alumni" teams all have multiple players that never played college ball in the BigEast.
Its hard to get guys for many reasons: not in shape, don’t care, don’t want to get injured, have contractual obligations, don’t want to spend the money, looking for other opportunities.........
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 28, 2018, 02:39:43 PM
Its hard to get guys for many reasons: not in shape, don’t care, don’t want to get injured, have contractual obligations, don’t want to spend the money, looking for other opportunities.........

Davante is getting married.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on June 28, 2018, 03:02:09 PM
Davante is getting married.
Not an excuse, priorities! He knew when TBT was, schedule accordingly!!!!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MuMark on June 28, 2018, 05:36:35 PM
Heard Joe Chapman on a podcast today. Said the MU big guys weren't available for one reason or another this summer.

He mentioned DG, Chris, Luke and Ooze.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 28, 2018, 05:44:07 PM
Not gonna lie, this group of guys doesn’t really excited me, especially with DJO now out.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on June 28, 2018, 06:21:27 PM
So, who's going besides me and Glow?

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The wife and I!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on June 28, 2018, 06:51:18 PM
If the players don't care, it's hard for me to care too much this time, to be honest with you.

I hope all who go (or watch on TV) enjoy.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on June 28, 2018, 07:14:01 PM
If the players don't care, it's hard for me to care too much this time, to be honest with you.

I hope all who go (or watch on TV) enjoy.

It seems like the momentum for this entire thing is draining. We will see if it’s still around in a few years.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MuMark on June 28, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
https://twitter.com/jsteppe1/status/1012456874489339904?s=21
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on June 28, 2018, 08:09:15 PM
It seems like the momentum for this entire thing is draining. We will see if it’s still around in a few years.

I saw this becoming an all alumni teams tournament every summer and thought it was an amazing idea. Guess I was wrong though.

It did go farther then I thought it would the first time I heard of it.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on June 28, 2018, 08:59:50 PM
Heard Joe Chapman on a podcast today. Said the MU big guys weren't available for one reason or another this summer.

He mentioned DG, Chris, Luke and Ooze.
Luke is playing for the Armenia national team, world qualifier tournaments are going on this week
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 29, 2018, 10:24:33 AM
https://twitter.com/jsteppe1/status/1012456874489339904?s=21

So it's down to Jerel and Travis that I'm actually looking forward to watching :(

Do you guys think they reach out to guys that transferred from MU?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: We R Final Four on June 29, 2018, 11:43:01 AM
So, who's going besides me and Glow?

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Tens of others I suspect.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on June 30, 2018, 11:30:44 AM
Glow and I have two extra tickets. PM me if you are interested.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 30, 2018, 12:54:22 PM
Last year DG and Buycks were the only two that could pit the ball in the basket.  Shocking how far Jerel and some of the others have fallen off, not spring chickens anymore, bu they really struggled.  Id be suprised with more than a win or two this year without them.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on June 30, 2018, 02:06:34 PM
Last year DG and Buycks were the only two that could pit the ball in the basket.  Shocking how far Jerel and some of the others have fallen off, not spring chickens anymore, bu they really struggled.  Id be suprised with more than a win or two this year without them.

You should be very surprised by Diener, who may be the best player in the entire tournament. Plus isn't Jamil Wilson on the team? I expect him to do some good things.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 30, 2018, 02:08:25 PM
Any links to watch it?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 02:24:13 PM
Any links to watch it?
Streamed on Watch ESPN (ESPN3).
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on June 30, 2018, 02:41:35 PM
How do we feel about the Elam ending?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 02:49:26 PM
How do we feel about the Elam ending?
Weird.  Hope it never takes off beyond the TBT.  Adding 7 points at the 4 minute mark is just crazy.  Sure, it cuts down on fouls, but..........?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on June 30, 2018, 03:12:38 PM
How do we feel about the Elam ending?

That costs extra, you know.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on June 30, 2018, 03:37:15 PM
How do we feel about the Elam ending?

Hate it.  Nobody even tried once the clock got turned off.

Unrelated, but how in the world can WatchESPN have such a bad stream for TBT?  I understand how trying to watch the NCAA Football National Title might be slow with millions of people trying to watch it, but this garbage product they throw out there is unwatchable.  Just skips multiple possessions at a time.  I never have a problem with any other similar streaming sites (FoxSportsGo, when I've streamed the NBA Playoffs on TNT's website it was totally fine, etc.).  ESPN's is always awful.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 03:51:52 PM
Hate it.  Nobody even tried once the clock got turned off.

Unrelated, but how in the world can WatchESPN have such a bad stream for TBT?  I understand how trying to watch the NCAA Football National Title might be slow with millions of people trying to watch it, but this garbage product they throw out there is unwatchable.  Just skips multiple possessions at a time.  I never have a problem with any other similar streaming sites (FoxSportsGo, when I've streamed the NBA Playoffs on TNT's website it was totally fine, etc.).  ESPN's is always awful.
Yeah, the flow of the game really changed.  The streaming was fine on my iPad.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on June 30, 2018, 04:13:03 PM
Chatroom:

http://www.chatzy.com/56874757820157
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 30, 2018, 04:34:23 PM
You should be very surprised by Diener, who may be the best player in the entire tournament. Plus isn't Jamil Wilson on the team? I expect him to do some good things.

Lol, Diener looks old and not very good IMO.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GooooMarquette on June 30, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
It seems like the momentum for this entire thing is draining. We will see if it’s still around in a few years.

$2 million doesn't buy what it used to....
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on June 30, 2018, 04:51:53 PM
$2 million doesn't buy what it used to....

It sounds like I'm not missing anything.

It was a good idea, but it's difficult to keep niche sporting events even semi-relevant.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on June 30, 2018, 04:53:24 PM
#mubb (TBT) up 39-33 against St. John's. eFG%: MU 48.7%, StJ: 46.8%. 68.4% of MU's FGAs have been threes, mostly LOOOONG threes. #TBT2018
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 05:13:30 PM
Golden Eagles had the chance to put it away but Johnnies got back into it at the end of the third. Good guys lead 58-54 with one quarter to play.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 05:29:22 PM
Marquette leads 70-59 as the Elam Ending begins. Appropriately, the target number is 77.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 05:42:49 PM
Jamil Wilson with the walk off three. He finishes with a game high 29. I believe that included 9 made threes. Check my Twitter @brewcity77 for video of the last shot. Final score 78-67.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on June 30, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
Jamil Wilson with the walk off three. He finishes with a game high 29. I believe that included 9 made threes. Check my Twitter @brewcity77 for video of the last shot. Final score 78-67.

One nice thing about the Elam ending is that the game always ends on a winning shot.

And did anyone else notice the Elam score was 77? Of course we were going to win.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on June 30, 2018, 06:03:04 PM
For you guys who weren't there. Jamil started stroking the ball. Diener is still a really really good player with amazing court awareness. Props to Rel, D Wilson and Acker for playing really well.

And kudos to St. John's.  5 guys played the entire game. Maximum effort. Thanks for flying out.

Good crowd. It was fun. Tomorrow at 1p
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 06:03:32 PM
One nice thing about the Elam ending is that the game always ends on a winning shot.

And did anyone else notice the Elam score was 77? Of course we were going to win.

Mike Jakubowski mentioned the 77 and its significance to Marquette history. Thought it was nice that he gave me the shout-out.  ;D
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on June 30, 2018, 06:23:46 PM
I thought it was a fun afternoon watching both games. Energy of course picked up for the 2nd game. Anyone watch Wojo? He was into it more than the fans.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on June 30, 2018, 06:26:30 PM
How do we feel about the Elam ending?
Much better than I thought. Being in the Al with Marquette going for game point with the crowd on it's feet, thought it was volleyball.  ;D
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 06:32:13 PM
How do we feel about the Elam ending?

I love it. I'd like to see it or a variation added to every form of basketball. I like watching teams play basketball, not drag the last 4 minutes out endlessly with absurd, unnecessary fouls. Add it to the NIT next year and NCAA in 2019-20.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 30, 2018, 06:34:56 PM
I love it. I'd like to see it or a variation added to every form of basketball. I like watching teams play basketball, not drag the last 4 minutes out endlessly with absurd, unnecessary fouls. Add it to the NIT next year and NCAA in 2019-20.

Absolutely not.

You can't change from a timed game to a set score 3/4 of the way through the game.

If you wanna say first to 80 wins that's perfectly fine, and if it's a 40 minute game that's all well and good as well. You can't have both in the same game.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on June 30, 2018, 06:40:12 PM
I thought it was a fun afternoon watching both games. Energy of course picked up for the 2nd game. Anyone watch Wojo? He was into it more than the fans.

Wojo is doing some heavy recruiting these days. Noon ball can't resume soon enough.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on June 30, 2018, 06:42:22 PM
Wojo is doing some heavy recruiting these days. Noon ball can't resume soon enough.

Definitely sporting a bit of a spare tire this afternoon.

Also saw Steve Novak with his family.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 07:00:31 PM
Absolutely not.

You can't change from a timed game to a set score 3/4 of the way through the game.

If you wanna say first to 80 wins that's perfectly fine, and if it's a 40 minute game that's all well and good as well. You can't have both in the same game.

You absolutely can. Saying first to 80 wins is a poor option because it doesn't take into account pace of play. The Elam Ending works with any pace of play. 36 minute game, then first to highest score +7. It was seamless.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on June 30, 2018, 07:09:24 PM
Guys, I could care less about end game rules.  If you're within 75 miles of the Al and don't have committed plans tomorrow......

I used to drive up for Delta dental. #TBT rocks. Get your arse in the gym.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 07:18:34 PM
I love it. I'd like to see it or a variation added to every form of basketball. I like watching teams play basketball, not drag the last 4 minutes out endlessly with absurd, unnecessary fouls. Add it to the NIT next year and NCAA in 2019-20.
Nah.  That first game totally sucked after the Elam change.  Just a different game.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUfan12 on June 30, 2018, 07:32:15 PM
I'd be in favor of some limit on take fouls at the end of games. Like after the second foul, it's two and the ball. The Elam Ending was okay, but I don't think I'd like it for meaningful basketball.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on June 30, 2018, 07:37:44 PM
Nah.  That first game totally sucked after the Elam change.  Just a different game.

Agreed. I can’t stand it. Don’t like the quarters either. I’d be fine with a double bonus right away instead of one and one at some point or something. But that’s how all sports are. You don’t manage substitutions/pitching changes the same in innings 1-6 as you do in the 9th. You don’t manage the clock in football the first 55 minutes as you do the last 5. Etc.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 07:43:12 PM
Agreed. I can’t stand it. Don’t like the quarters either. I’d be fine with a double bonus right away instead of one and one at some point or something. But that’s how all sports are. You don’t manage substitutions/pitching changes the same in innings 1-6 as you do in the 9th. You don’t manage the clock in football the first 55 minutes as you do the last 5. Etc.
Yup.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on June 30, 2018, 08:01:27 PM
Boys,  it's freakin' summer ball. 4 hours in A/C.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 08:12:04 PM
Boys,  it's freakin' summer ball. 4 hours in A/C.
Yah, but Brew City wants to expand it to those 10” snow days in January to April.  ;)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 08:36:46 PM
Yah, but Brew City wants to expand it to those 10” snow days in January to April.  ;)

Yes, because I like basketball, not hacksketball. The most enjoyable games are the ones where both teams are playing to the end. This insures that every time. You can't foul to stop the clock, or whittle down a deficit with negative play. And you can't Buckyball to run out the clock. You have to finish the game by going out and winning it.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 09:07:41 PM
Yes, because I like basketball, not hacksketball. The most enjoyable games are the ones where both teams are playing to the end. This insures that every time. You can't foul to stop the clock, or whittle down a deficit with negative play. And you can't Buckyball to run out the clock. You have to finish the game by going out and winning it.
Sorry,but many of us disagree with you.  The Elam stuff brings about weird endiings.  Just makes for different games within the same games.  Yeah, less fouls, but so what.  Not gonna happen.  it’s just weird.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TheyWereCones on June 30, 2018, 09:20:08 PM
Yes, because I like basketball, not hacksketball. The most enjoyable games are the ones where both teams are playing to the end. This insures that every time. You can't foul to stop the clock, or whittle down a deficit with negative play. And you can't Buckyball to run out the clock. You have to finish the game by going out and winning it.

I agree, I like it too for all the reasons you've mentioned and to me it makes so much sense.  Makes them finish the game instead of stall it out and have endless fouling.  Plus the fact of always ending on a winning basket...how does that not add excitement to it?  Lastly, it also technically gives teams a shot to win no matter how far down they are, which I would think would keep everyone including the players more invested for longer.  You know if they did this there would be some absolutely wild finishes all season, and tons more bench mob celebrations.  I haven't heard a lot of reasons against it for those who oppose other than "it's weird" which means it's different and they don't like different.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on June 30, 2018, 09:37:11 PM
I agree, I like it too for all the reasons you've mentioned and to me it makes so much sense.  Makes them finish the game instead of stall it out and have endless fouling.  Plus the fact of always ending on a winning basket...how does that not add excitement to it?  Lastly, it also technically gives teams a shot to win no matter how far down they are, which I would think would keep everyone including the players more invested for longer.  You know if they did this there would be some absolutely wild finishes all season, and tons more bench mob celebrations.  I haven't heard a lot of reasons against it for those who oppose other than "it's weird" which means it's different and they don't like different.

So you don’t think 12 point comebacks in the last minute of an NCAA Tournament game is exciting? Or Reggie Miller scoring 9 points in 30 seconds is exciting? Or a half court buzzer beater after a game tying shot in an NCAA Tournament is exciting? But seeing Jamil Wilson hit a 3 to win by 12 is exciting?

Come on. Exciting finishes are the games where a team is down big and in the blink of an eye they’ve stolen a win. To make big comebacks in this format you actually WOULD have a drawn out game that would require some bad basketball from the team in the lead.

As far as hacksketball, should we start calling fouls to prevent layups and dunks flagrant fouls? Apparently fouling isn’t part of “pure basketball?”
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on June 30, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
i could see it perhaps in OT, in regulation time... nah.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on June 30, 2018, 09:55:28 PM
If this format was the way basketball was always played you could kiss every one of these highlights goodbye.  And it'd make basketball "more exciting" because every game ends on a made basket, because 10 guys going through the motions until a set score is reached in 90% of games is so exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EdfwyLvZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTThyQPoXxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo3G2MfOYeA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdFB3OGUaGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rm_eAiV4dA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbkX4B3cCG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDvbTrE8VBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmcOo-bGJp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICZ8HO8c9bw

I will never understand how taking this out of basketball would make it more exciting.  But to each their own.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on June 30, 2018, 09:58:19 PM
Sorry,but many of us disagree with you.  The Elam stuff brings about weird endiings.  Just makes for different games within the same games.  Yeah, less fouls, but so what.  Not gonna happen.  it’s just weird.

Sure, disagreement is fine. And it's different, but things don't get better by stagnating.

Come on. Exciting finishes are the games where a team is down big and in the blink of an eye they’ve stolen a win. To make big comebacks in this format you actually WOULD have a drawn out game that would require some bad basketball from the team in the lead.

As far as hacksketball, should we start calling fouls to prevent layups and dunks flagrant fouls? Apparently fouling isn’t part of “pure basketball?”

So every time a team comes from behind to win an Elam game, except without needing to foul?

And I'm talking about the intentional hacks to stop the clock. Wrapping someone up just to put them on the line isn't enjoyable to watch.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on June 30, 2018, 10:10:05 PM
Sure, disagreement is fine. And it's different, but things don't get better by stagnating.

So every time a team comes from behind to win an Elam game, except without needing to foul?

And I'm talking about the intentional hacks to stop the clock. Wrapping someone up just to put them on the line isn't enjoyable to watch.

So you think a team that is down 11 with no time limit but has to stop the other team from scoring 7 more points would play the same way that they would if they were down by 11 with 2 minutes left?

No, they'd slow it down and try to get good looks every time down the court while with a time limit there's a sense of desperation and they have to execute without taking any time off the clock.  Which means they'd be relying on their opponent to play really bad basketball to give them a chance to come back to win.

See Marquette vs. Davidson.  Davidson played well down the stretch.  Marquette played better.  That was as exciting of a finish to a basketball game as I've ever seen.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TheyWereCones on June 30, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
If this format was the way basketball was always played you could kiss every one of these highlights goodbye.  And it'd make basketball "more exciting" because every game ends on a made basket, because 10 guys going through the motions until a set score is reached in 90% of games is so exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EdfwyLvZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTThyQPoXxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo3G2MfOYeA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdFB3OGUaGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rm_eAiV4dA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbkX4B3cCG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDvbTrE8VBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmcOo-bGJp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICZ8HO8c9bw

I will never understand how taking this out of basketball would make it more exciting.  But to each their own.

I guess until there are actual Elam Ending games in the NCAA I can't show you how many amazing endings there would be.  What you saw today were two games that weren't that close.  Wait until you have games that go down to the final bucket and teams have to get a stop to survive and can put it away on the other end.  There would be just as many, if not more, exciting endings.  Just because you didn't see them in either of these two games doesn't throw out the whole idea.  News flash - for these two games, the regular ending would have been just as lame if not far worse to watch.  Probably just a bunch of dribbling out the clock or else the endless free throw parade.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on June 30, 2018, 10:18:40 PM
I guess until there are actual Elam Ending games in the NCAA I can't show you how many amazing endings there would be.  What you saw today were two games that weren't that close.  Wait until you have games that go down to the final bucket and teams have to get a stop to survive and can put it away on the other end.  There would be just as many, if not more, exciting endings.  Just because you didn't see them in either of these two games doesn't throw out the whole idea.  News flash - for these two games, the regular ending would have been just as lame if not far worse to watch.  Probably just a bunch of dribbling out the clock or else the endless free throw parade.

You said you haven't seen any reason people don't like the new format other than "it's weird."

Now you get a reason besides "it's weird" and you can't accept it because we haven't seen anything yet.

Guess you can't lose.

I simply don't buy the "every game has a game winner!  How exciting!"  Cool, a guy made a shot up 10 to end the game.  If he misses it, his team has 5 more chances to win the game even if the other team scores every time down on the other end of the court.

In order to see a fun comeback in this format the team in the lead needs to play awful basketball.  So even if you get your exciting comeback, it's sloppy basketball to make it happen.  Nothing about that is exciting.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on June 30, 2018, 10:31:26 PM
There are other rules you can change to get rid of the fouls at the end of games. Get rid of the one-and-one...give teams the option to inbound the ball instead of shooting FTs...let any player in the floor shoot FTs once you hit the double bonus...bring back the NBAs three to make two...

I think you can experiment with this in the NIT, but I don’t think it will work long term.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TheyWereCones on June 30, 2018, 11:56:01 PM
You said you haven't seen any reason people don't like the new format other than "it's weird."

Now you get a reason besides "it's weird" and you can't accept it because we haven't seen anything yet.

Guess you can't lose.

I simply don't buy the "every game has a game winner!  How exciting!"  Cool, a guy made a shot up 10 to end the game.  If he misses it, his team has 5 more chances to win the game even if the other team scores every time down on the other end of the court.

In order to see a fun comeback in this format the team in the lead needs to play awful basketball.  So even if you get your exciting comeback, it's sloppy basketball to make it happen.  Nothing about that is exciting.

Obviously those games would have ended differently, but you also can't possibly know how many other amazing endings we are missing out on too.  If your only argument on the new format is that it would take away endings like those, then we'll have to agree to disagree, because while I agree with you that those are great finishes, my whole point is that I don't think there would be any fewer great endings and there would actually be more in this format.  I guess I also just prefer that basketball be played the last ~4 minutes like the first 36, where both teams still have to score and get stops.

It seems like maybe you are against this idea that you'd be missing out on buzzer beaters, but I just think that in this format, every single one-possession game essentially ends on the equivalent of a buzzer beater, not just a handful of them.  For every one-possession game in the current format, the vast minority end on a made basket at the buzzer.  The other 99% end on a missed shot (often a launch from some ridiculous length like half court), or someone dribbling out the clock, etc.  Your argument about missing out on those buzzer beaters is just like casinos advertising by showing a person with bags of money and a huge smile on their face...yes, it happens, but that's what happens the least amount.  I don't need to look up the stats to back it up, because I know they would support the fact that the vast majority of one-possession games currently don't end with a made basket within the last 5 seconds (or however you would quantify a buzzer beater).  In this new format, it's guaranteed that every one-possession game ends that way.  I prefer 100% over whatever the other significantly less than 100% option is.

Even in the MU game today, which obviously wasn't a nailbiter, when MU had a chance to close it out, the fans were on their feet cheering for that last bucket, like a pitcher going for the last out.  In the normal format, do you disagree that this game goes into stall ball mode and ends completely uninterestingly, and possibly also contains a bunch of useless fouls that drag the misery out further?

Anyway, it's a fun conversation and I'll watch and still love college basketball either way.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TheyWereCones on July 01, 2018, 12:04:50 AM
I simply don't buy the "every game has a game winner!  How exciting!"  Cool, a guy made a shot up 10 to end the game.  If he misses it, his team has 5 more chances to win the game even if the other team scores every time down on the other end of the court.

In order to see a fun comeback in this format the team in the lead needs to play awful basketball.  So even if you get your exciting comeback, it's sloppy basketball to make it happen.  Nothing about that is exciting.

I suppose I never really responded to this part.  If a team hits a shot up 10 to win the game, obviously it's not all that exciting.  But how is the current format where they just dribble out the clock any more exciting?  At least if they are missing shots the other team still has a chance, and every made basket by the other team only starts to add pressure to the situation.

And your argument that the team in the lead would have to play awful basketball, how is that different from how it is now?  What kind of team with a big lead and who's playing well is allowing a team to get back into it as it stands today?  Or what if the team making the comeback is just playing really well those last few minutes?  I don't see how these arguments apply to one format and not the other.  Feel free to elaborate on how it's any different.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUDPT on July 01, 2018, 06:11:27 AM
So you think a team that is down 11 with no time limit but has to stop the other team from scoring 7 more points would play the same way that they would if they were down by 11 with 2 minutes left?

No, they'd slow it down and try to get good looks every time down the court while with a time limit there's a sense of desperation and they have to execute without taking any time off the clock.  Which means they'd be relying on their opponent to play really bad basketball to give them a chance to come back to win.

See Marquette vs. Davidson.  Davidson played well down the stretch.  Marquette played better.  That was as exciting of a finish to a basketball game as I've ever seen.

Down 11 with 2 minutes to play, you have a 0.6% chance of winning a game. So yes, it would eliminate 6 awesome comebacks and prevent 994 incessant fouls, trips to the foul lines, unopposed drives to the basket, time outs.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on July 01, 2018, 06:52:48 AM
I want basketball endings, not contrived endings.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on July 01, 2018, 07:23:26 AM
1. The rarity of buzzer beaters is what makes them special.  If every game ends on a made basket, it becomes less noteworthy.

2.  It can be just as exciting to end the game on a defensive stop.  See, Marquette vs Villanova.

3. Hard truth: Sometimes the end of a sporting event is boring.  How many football games end on a kneel down?  How many baseball games are out of reach by the 9th inning?  So what if some basketball games end with dribbling out the clock?  I can accept that not every game is going to an exciting finish.

4.  If you want to address the end of game fouling concerns, there are other ways to do that.  I like many of the ones Sultan listed.  I was already thinking about a couple of those.  Another idea is to actually call intentional fouls, instead of overlooking them in the final minute.

So while the Elam Ending can be fun and different, I do not see it as the best solution for how to end a basketball game.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on July 01, 2018, 07:42:48 AM
It would also help if college coaches knew when to throw in the towel like NBA coaches do. The NBA has its own issues with fouling, but at least they know when to just run out the clock.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: romey on July 01, 2018, 09:31:05 AM
Just think how p!ssed off the fans would be if they couldn't leave early to beat the traffic.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on July 01, 2018, 09:37:56 AM
Might be a dumb question but are they selling tickets at the door or do you have to go through Ticketmaster?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 01, 2018, 09:41:21 AM
I'd be fine with other solutions as well. If not for the Elam Ending, yesterday easily could've turned into a dull foul fest in the final minutes of both games. Close enough games that teams think they have a chance, but far enough away that it's going to look like any other drab ending. The basketball endgame has long needed a fix. Whether this is the decisive one or not, something should be done to keep the last 4 minutes from taking 15-30 of real life time.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on July 01, 2018, 09:51:03 AM
Something also should be done about the timeout situation at the end of games. Perhaps only allowing timeouts in dead ball situations.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2018, 10:08:09 AM
Might be a dumb question but are they selling tickets at the door or do you have to go through Ticketmaster?

They are selling at the door.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on July 01, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
I tend to lean toward, "leave the game alone", but... was kind of thinking about AAU games and the idea of the Elam ending.. usually, there is no shot clock. Sometimes, late in games where one team has a nice advantage, they'll slow things up dramatically... pass it around and stall, stall stall.

When I'm watching AAU, I'm looking to see players playing in real situations... so, if a game gets out of hand, you might lose some minutes of evaluation opportunity... with the Elam ending, they'd need to keep pushing on offense...

Now that I think of it.. my work games are just up to 15 or 25 points... nothing timed about it, and it's still basketball. <shrug>
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on July 01, 2018, 11:54:14 AM
Anyone else going to the game today
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on July 01, 2018, 12:10:27 PM
I tend to lean toward, "leave the game alone", but... was kind of thinking about AAU games and the idea of the Elam ending.. usually, there is no shot clock. Sometimes, late in games where one team has a nice advantage, they'll slow things up dramatically... pass it around and stall, stall stall.

When I'm watching AAU, I'm looking to see players playing in real situations... so, if a game gets out of hand, you might lose some minutes of evaluation opportunity... with the Elam ending, they'd need to keep pushing on offense...

Now that I think of it.. my work games are just up to 15 or 25 points... nothing timed about it, and it's still basketball. <shrug>But, then it’s like changing the game to 17 or 27 mid-stream.  But, then, nobody is watching your work games.   ;)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 01, 2018, 12:10:51 PM
Anyone else going to the game today

Yup.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 01, 2018, 12:19:49 PM
Anyvideo stream for game?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUDPT on July 01, 2018, 12:29:12 PM
It would also help if basketball would play the advantage like every other sport. Cost us the 08 Georgetown game, when Wes could have dribbled out the clock and the ref called a little reach in.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2018, 12:37:23 PM
Wojo in the house. Just saw him walk in with a giant cup of coffee in one hand and a gallon jug of water in the other.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on July 01, 2018, 12:54:45 PM
Anyvideo stream for game?
Only espn3
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on July 01, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
Lots of empty seats.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on July 01, 2018, 01:09:16 PM
Chatroom:

http://us21.chatzy.com/56874757820157
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on July 01, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
Lots of empty seats.

Huh. Who wouldn’t want to watch a pick up game on a Sunday afternoon in the middle of summer?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 01, 2018, 01:17:17 PM
Lots of empty seats.

Guessing it looks packed since they crammed all the fans on the same side. Disappointing that the target score displays are facing away from all the fans.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2018, 01:37:29 PM
Guessing it looks packed since they crammed all the fans on the same side. Disappointing that the target score displays are facing away from all the fans.

It's so the players can see it.    ;)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on July 01, 2018, 01:52:11 PM
Derrick touched the ball and I started to have flashbacks
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2018, 01:53:10 PM
Derrick touched the ball and I started to have flashbacks

PTSD
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on July 01, 2018, 02:01:07 PM
Fun watching Diener
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 01, 2018, 02:05:05 PM
It's so the players can see it.    ;)

It's so the cameras can see it. They could just as easily have them on the other side and be just as visible to the players. More so, because players on the bench could see it too.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MuMark on July 01, 2018, 02:16:14 PM
Travis with some great looks today. His basketball iq has always been impressive.

Acker has really become a nice player.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on July 01, 2018, 02:21:21 PM
Now instead of milking the clock at the 2 minute mark, we get to see the leading team start milking the clock with 7 minutes left.  How exciting!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on July 01, 2018, 02:29:21 PM
Acker is having a nice game.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 01, 2018, 02:29:47 PM
Now instead of milking the clock at the 2 minute mark, we get to see the leading team start milking the clock with 7 minutes left.  How exciting!

This +10000

It's never going to matter.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on July 01, 2018, 02:32:29 PM
Trade some of our role players for DJO, Buycks, and Rowsey, keep Cook and this team could make a run at a title next year.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on July 01, 2018, 02:38:13 PM
Looking forward to the next game. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2018, 02:46:43 PM
It's so the cameras can see it. They could just as easily have them on the other side and be just as visible to the players. More so, because players on the bench could see it too.

I use winky faces instead of teal.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 01, 2018, 03:14:33 PM
Another fun afternoon. It's a great seeing many of our favorite players from the past. Crowd filled in nice as the game went on. I enjoyed my courtside seats. Hearing the talking to keep it clean was pretty sweet!

Mo Acker was outstanding!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on July 01, 2018, 03:32:36 PM
So did we hang the Big East banner?  Wojo nailed it in his interview PPT, hey?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: We R Final Four on July 01, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
Huh. Who wouldn’t want to watch a pick up game on a Sunday afternoon in the middle of summer?
And pay to do so.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: DCHoopster on July 01, 2018, 03:51:15 PM
And pay to do so.

Curious, why did Steve Novak not play?  This format would make him really stand out.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: The Lens on July 01, 2018, 04:15:01 PM
Now instead of milking the clock at the 2 minute mark, we get to see the leading team start milking the clock with 7 minutes left.  How exciting!

Mensa Member and Ball State should never be in the same sentence.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 01, 2018, 05:05:04 PM
So another weekend of entertaining hoops. Props to the guys from Georgetown, St. John's, and Seton Hall for putting together teams and flying out to compete.  I sincerely hope the Gtown and SJU boys hit Summerfest either last night or today.  It's a lot of fun and some pretty high level hoops is played.  Anyway, it beats typing on my computer.   :)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on July 01, 2018, 05:22:00 PM
Trade some of our role players for DJO, Buycks, and Rowsey, keep Cook and this team could make a run at a title next year.
If Buycks still under contract not in
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 01, 2018, 05:56:05 PM
I think what really impressed me the most about the Golden Eagles team this weekend was the defense. First of all, Bowers, Cook, and Atwood are solid additions that can all be physical. Chapman had the team pressing, playing aggressive, mixing between man and zone, and creating turnovers. It's rare to see summer teams in any league that make defense a priority. I think that could really serve them well.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 01, 2018, 05:58:00 PM
If Buycks still under contract not in

He is under contract, isn't allowed to play, and encouraged his friends from the bench wearing Pistons gear.  Dwight's all in.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 01, 2018, 06:00:06 PM
I think what really impressed me the most about the Golden Eagles team this weekend was the defense. First of all, Bowers, Cook, and Atwood are solid additions that can all be physical. Chapman had the team pressing, playing aggressive, mixing between man and zone, and creating turnovers. It's rare to see summer teams in any league that make defense a priority. I think that could really serve them well.

+1

The last two years was individual talent and mostly playground ball.  These guys are working hard this year to be a team on both the offensive and defensive ends.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on July 01, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
+1

The last two years was individual talent and mostly playground ball.  These guys are working hard this year to be a team on both the offensive and defensive ends.
Really enjoyable to watch Diener passing.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on July 01, 2018, 09:55:36 PM
He is under contract, isn't allowed to play, and encouraged his friends from the bench wearing Pistons gear.  Dwight's all in.
Not in as not able to play
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on July 01, 2018, 10:43:48 PM
Not in as not able to play
Yes that is correct. His NBA contract does not allow him to participate.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: WarriorDad on July 02, 2018, 12:08:32 AM
I'd be fine with other solutions as well. If not for the Elam Ending, yesterday easily could've turned into a dull foul fest in the final minutes of both games. Close enough games that teams think they have a chance, but far enough away that it's going to look like any other drab ending. The basketball endgame has long needed a fix. Whether this is the decisive one or not, something should be done to keep the last 4 minutes from taking 15-30 of real life time.

Hate it.  Better way to fix hack-a-thons is to give the team on the receiving end free throws and the ball out of bounds.  Or, the fouled team has option to not shoot free throws and take the ball out of bounds, instead.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Its DJOver on July 02, 2018, 10:24:02 AM
A game in the other pod actually had a game where the Elam ending could have been influential in the final score.  You don't get the whole story from the highlights, but it seems like it was close enough throughout that it would have had a good finish regardless of the format.

https://www.thetournament.com/bracket/game-29-0

Now the other two games in the pod were decided by an average of almost 40 so I think the narrative of blow outs are going to be blow outs and good games will be good games is fairly accurate.

I have no problem with the Elam ending for events like this.  Something different to try to gain more interest.  I don't think it will ever catch on and be adopted by college or professional leagues.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU gimp ONE on July 02, 2018, 10:27:25 AM
getting back to the actual event... I attended both days and thought it was awesome.  Wish more came out to support the team, but it was a good crowd for a weekend in the off-season. 

Very cool to see players from so many different recent generations of MU playing together, plus some familiar hated faces of former Big East opponents... who can forget Hazell's ears from Seton Hall?

Loved seeing the support from former players, like Robert Jackson, and all the current coaches and players.  Wojo was super into the games, especially the Saturday one.  He also did his best to come around and shake hands and thank the fans for coming out.  Doing a little PR stint never hurts with the fans.

Overall, these are becoming really good games.  Marquette certainly doesn't play like it's an And 1 Tour streetball game.  They run plays, press, switch defenses, and work hard.  Best part was before a Seton Hall free throw, Diener was wincing a little.  Jerel walked up and asked what was wrong and Travis just said, "I'm old" with a smile.  They all definitely take these games serious.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: barfolomew on July 02, 2018, 10:58:38 AM
Hall In Is Out: Ten Thoughts on TBT rd of 32 Game in the Form of Five Thoughts (Fewer Thoughts Because It's Summer)


1) Loved seeing Travis play again, and Jamil was great, but Mo Acker really impressed me. I completely forgot about his funky shot form, and he had it working yesterday.

2) By my count, in attendance were the AD, two Associate ADs, four MBB coaches, and several other trainers, staff, and players from other sports. Nice to see the support.

3) I sat next to Travis' family. His kids are super cute.

4) Don't mind the Elam Ending, but don't see it catching on. It's a little too anti-climactic for TV basketball (though admittedly we haven't seen it play out in a really close game yet).

5) Elgin Cook was the difference maker on defense. Active on the perimeter like a Davante or a Dwight Burke could not have been.
 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on July 02, 2018, 01:25:22 PM
Is Travis playing in Italy again next year?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on July 02, 2018, 01:31:35 PM
Is Travis playing in Italy again next year?

From my rough translation his team is waiting for him to decide. What I saw in the tbt is a guy with tremendous talent still, but gets tired easily due to age.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MUDPT on July 02, 2018, 02:01:06 PM
Went through our schedule last year.  I think the only results that change with an Elam Ending (the first to the winning team +7), were wins that turned into losses against Eastern Illinois and Georgetown. Obviously, the teams will play differently versus a clock ending.  Also, we didn't score 7 points after the 4 minute mark in most of the blow out wins.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Markusquette on July 02, 2018, 03:45:16 PM
I love the jerseys. Wish we could purchase one of our own!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 02, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
I love the jerseys. Wish we could purchase one of our own!

My guess is that you will be able to at some point. Last year's is sold out.

https://tbtgear.com/collections/team-jerseys?page=3
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Markusquette on July 02, 2018, 04:54:08 PM
My guess is that you will be able to at some point. Last year's is sold out.

https://tbtgear.com/collections/team-jerseys?page=3

Very cool. Thanks for sharing that! I'll be on the lookout  :)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on July 02, 2018, 07:06:31 PM
I love the jerseys. Wish we could purchase one of our own!

I bought one of last year's.. and will buy again if given the opportunity. One of those very rare situations where I'm open to wearing something that refers to the chicken.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: tower912 on July 02, 2018, 08:04:26 PM
The TBT team scrimmaged Wojo's 18-19 team.... missing Sam, Markus, Anim, and Chartouny
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Marquette-2018-19-Basketball-team-Preview-119513913/
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on July 02, 2018, 08:33:45 PM
The TBT team scrimmaged Wojo's 18-19 team.... missing Sam, Markus, Anim, and Chartouny
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Marquette-2018-19-Basketball-team-Preview-119513913/

If they even made it a closeish game with the alums I'm very impressed. That alumni team is incredibly solid.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 02, 2018, 09:40:30 PM
I didn't realize how long the break was after this first round. There are two more weekends of first round games. The South and West regionals play July 13-14 while the Northeast and Midwest play July 21-22. The earliest Golden Eagles TBT will play again is July 26-28.

As far as the rest of the Northeast, there are a few teams of note.

2-Seed HBC Sicklerville: They would be the favorite to be MU's next opponent. The biggest names look like NBA alums Mike James and Quincy Miller (Vander tried recruiting him to MU years ago).

1-Seed Boeheim's Army: Hakim Warrick, Brandon Triche, James Southerland, Paul Harris, and of course, Eric freaking Devendorf. The kind of team everyone wants to beat.

4-Seed Armored Athlete: Will Sheehey led AA against our boys in the Round of 16 back in MU's first TBT appearance in 2015. The good guys won, but we might see Sheehey and company again, though the roster has changed significantly. The names that most stood out were Kevin Jones from WVU and Preston Knowles from Louisville. There are a few more familiar names, and it wouldn't surprise me if this team knocked off the Boeheim boys.

Who knows...maybe we won't play any of them. But man, that feels like a long time to wait. Still, good weekend. Glad so many people came out for some summer ball.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 21, 2018, 11:30:43 AM
Wow.  Jimmer Fredette has a BYU heavy team in the tourney.  Did he wash out of the NBA already?  BTW, they're losing early to a Peoria 'B' squad that I saw play last year.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on July 21, 2018, 11:35:50 AM
Wow.  Jimmer Fredette has a BYU heavy team in the tourney.  Did he wash out of the NBA already?  BTW, they're losing early to a Peoria 'B' squad that I saw play last year.

Hasn’t been in the league since 2016.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: We R Final Four on July 21, 2018, 12:09:55 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nba/news/jimmer-fredette-nba-comeback-the-basketball-tournament-stats/8m67l770uain1uqpzk0i8usve
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: monkeyman34 on July 21, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
Wow.  Jimmer Fredette has a BYU heavy team in the tourney.  Did he wash out of the NBA already?  BTW, they're losing early to a Peoria 'B' squad that I saw play last year.

He's been making a few million a year over in China. One of the more popular players in that league.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on July 22, 2018, 12:34:17 AM
He's been making a few million a year over in China. One of the more popular players in that league.

There are a few guys who are quite talented, but just not enough to be making decent money in the NBA. See Travis Diener. They make some good bank over in Europe.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 22, 2018, 02:02:03 PM
Gear up for the underdog. 15-seed Talladega Knights knocked off the 2-seed HBC Sicklerville and the 7-seed Team Arkansas to advance to the Super 16 against Golden Eagles. Their big star seems to be Frantz Massenet from Drexel. Have to say, I expect MU to handle them pretty easily, though I'm sure their last two opponents thought the same.

https://www.thetournament.com/teams/talladega-knights
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on July 25, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
They're back!!! Practice at the AL
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1022307363137757184?s=21
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 26, 2018, 08:57:29 AM
11:00am EST on Saturday I believe.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on July 26, 2018, 09:32:12 AM
11:00am EST on Saturday I believe.
Yes on espn
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on July 26, 2018, 12:20:24 PM
11:00am EST on Saturday I believe.

*EDT
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Its DJOver on July 27, 2018, 02:43:03 PM
So Greg Oden was just added to the Ohio State alum team.  How fluid are the rosters once the tournament starts?  Since Buycks was waived since it started, would he be eligible to join the team now?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: KampusFoods on July 27, 2018, 03:29:05 PM
So Greg Oden was just added to the Ohio State alum team.  How fluid are the rosters once the tournament starts?  Since Buycks was waived since it started, would he be eligible to join the team now?

Not sure on the rules, but Oden was listed on their roster last year and never played. Sullinger OTOH dominated our team.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 27, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
Overseas Elite extended their all-time TBT record to 22-0 last night with an 87-86 win over a team from Louisiana. Quite a bit of disagreement on Twitter as to whether or not the foul called that sent OE to the line to seal it when the game was tied at 86 was a foul or should've been a steal. I watched the play, tough call to make as a ref when the game is on the line, especially as it would've been a likely winning layup at the other end had they not called the foul. Check around the 1:30 mark to the end to see the finish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgFNRTT9bpI
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 27, 2018, 04:13:06 PM
That is a brutal call to end on. Looked like good defense to me but there are calls like that in every game. Just tough that it sealed the game
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on July 27, 2018, 05:47:28 PM
So Greg Oden was just added to the Ohio State alum team.  How fluid are the rosters once the tournament starts?  Since Buycks was waived since it started, would he be eligible to join the team now?
It would be great if we could line up Buycks and Lazar.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on July 27, 2018, 07:48:48 PM
I think the Marquette team could use another few weeks of rest.

10 weeks (or whatever it's been) hasn't been quite enough.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on July 27, 2018, 09:18:28 PM
Not sure on the rules, but Oden was listed on their roster last year and never played. Sullinger OTOH dominated our team.
He's playing tonite
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 28, 2018, 08:09:35 AM
Oden played last night.  His first organized game in 3 years.  He's still a mountain of a man but don't think he is what he once was.  Apparently Sullinger is getting married this week explaining his absence.  I personally think Jimmer's team runs 'em off the floor tomorrow.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 28, 2018, 09:51:04 AM
Gametime boys and girls.  ESPN.

'If you're not first, you're last!'   :)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 28, 2018, 10:02:46 AM
10am on ESPN or you can stream it on the WatchESPN App.
Bob Rathbun & Fran Fraschilla on the call
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on July 28, 2018, 11:03:20 AM
Need a better second half.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 29, 2018, 02:00:53 PM
when is their next game and against who?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 29, 2018, 02:02:52 PM
when is their next game and against who?

Overseas Elite on Thursday. Probably at 6:00 pm CST. OE are the three-time defending TBT champs and have a 23-0 record in the past 4 years in this tournament.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 29, 2018, 02:06:24 PM
Overseas Elite on Thursday. Probably at 6:00 pm CST. OE are the three-time defending TBT champs and have a 23-0 record in the past 4 years in this tournament.

Next Friday it will be 23-1.   ;)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 29, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
Overseas Elite on Thursday. Probably at 6:00 pm CST. OE are the three-time defending TBT champs and have a 23-0 record in the past 4 years in this tournament.

thank you-yup, just found it 6 pm central- aug. 2
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 29, 2018, 02:08:17 PM
Overseas Elite on Thursday. Probably at 6:00 pm CST. OE are the three-time defending TBT champs and have a 23-0 record in the past 4 years in this tournament.

We got this.  ;D
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on July 29, 2018, 02:11:45 PM
TBT Site shows MU and Overseas Elite on opposite sides of the final 4:

https://www.thetournament.com/bracket
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 29, 2018, 02:18:23 PM
TBT Site shows MU and Overseas Elite on opposite sides of the final 4:

https://www.thetournament.com/bracket

It also shows both of those games happening at the same time.  Something is off.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: monkeyman34 on July 29, 2018, 02:22:24 PM
I feel like all of the brackets they've shown on the broadcasts show that MU would play OE. Guess we will see at the end of the day/early in the week what time the next game will be, and exactly who it will be against.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on July 29, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
Watched most of the last 3 quarters. Surprised by how entertaining it was and the Elam produced an exciting ending. If you're a skeptical MU fan I suggest you give it a try Thursday. We'll be watching regardless who the opponent is.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 29, 2018, 03:40:23 PM
TBT Site shows MU and Overseas Elite on opposite sides of the final 4:

https://www.thetournament.com/bracket

They are both on the left side of the bracket.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Markusquette on July 29, 2018, 03:46:20 PM
The officiating was pretty brutal in the second half. Shooters pulled through despite that crap. What a game by Acker, Diener. Elgin Cook is good too.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on July 29, 2018, 05:02:13 PM
Not sure what we're using as the "real" TBT thread, so I posted this in the Elite Eight one. I'll post it here, too ...

Going Total Tower ...

FAB FOUR!

++ Diener showed why he left coaching to play again. The man still enjoys it, obviously. And more importantly, he's still got game. One of my 5 all-time favorite Warriors. tough little dude. The shot he hit right before the Elam Ending was cold-blooded ... dare I even say Rowseyesque?!?!

++ I was never a Jake fan, and he was in the game only because others fouled out, but that was a huge rebound to set up the winner.

++ Jamil really played dopey after he got his 3rd foul. His 4th, 5th and 6th all could have/should have been avoided. I think he actually had 7, because Jerel "claimed" one of his.

++ Our boyz got all the foul trouble they deserved. Cuse played it really smart in the 2H, attacking pretty much every single possession. If I were playing these MU alums, that's exactly what I'd do, too.

++ This Cook guy has been a contributor. Made a big hoop after Jamil left with his 5th foul, and hitting those 2 FTs to put our boyz within 3 of the target score was crucial.

++ I am really enjoying watching Mo Acker. I can tell he loves the game, and he has become a very solid basketball player.

++ I think I officially like the Elam Ending. I will be interested to see what some of the final stats from the whole tournament show. I allow that I might like it because our boyz are winning with it, but I want to see more of it. So nice to have basketball down the stretch of close games instead of hack-and-TO-a-thons. Would be cool if D3 or D2 gave it a try, or maybe the G-League.

++ I have to admit that I was luke-warm at best about the TBT but I've obviously warmed up to it more as our boyz have advanced. When Diener's winning shot went through, I actually stood up, let out a whoop and raised both arms.

++ Might try to get together with a couple other MU locals to watch Thursday. I never thought I'd be saying that!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 29, 2018, 09:20:45 PM
So DWade tweeted this picture out after the game LOL

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjTBma9UwAAJ0rB.jpg)


https://twitter.com/DwyaneWade/status/1023655888400265216/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1023655888400265216&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsonline.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2F2018%2F07%2F29%2Fmarquette-advances-tbt-semifinals%2F860205002%2F
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Goatherder on July 29, 2018, 10:37:32 PM
I love the jerseys. Wish we could purchase one of our own!

You can.  See the TBT website. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Goatherder on July 29, 2018, 10:41:57 PM
So Greg Oden was just added to the Ohio State alum team.  How fluid are the rosters once the tournament starts?  Since Buycks was waived since it started, would he be eligible to join the team now?

From TBT FAQs:

What are the roster limits?

Teams can have a max of 15 players. The first 9 on your roster are free if they’re added before 12pm (noon) ET on June 1, 2017. Teams can have an unlimited amount of Coaches and Boosters.

How do we add Players to our team if we already have 9 or if it’s after June 1, 12p EST?

You must pay $1,000 per player up until the tournament starts. As you advance through the tournament, you may add more players, but it will cost increasing amounts. It’s $2,000 to add a player heading into the Super 16 and $3,000 to add a player heading into the Semifinals. See more in the Rules.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 30, 2018, 12:53:33 AM
I didn't see this posted anywhere but here's a nice article about Cinmeon Bowers.

https://marquettewire.org/3993554/sports/cinmeon-bowers-gets-chance-to-play-for-the-home-team-with-golden-eagles-alumni/
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 30, 2018, 06:37:20 AM
That's a great story.  Shows how everything in your youth can have an impact.  Glad he's able to put on the jersey this year.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Babybluejeans on July 30, 2018, 08:45:27 AM
From TBT FAQs:

What are the roster limits?

Teams can have a max of 15 players. The first 9 on your roster are free if they’re added before 12pm (noon) ET on June 1, 2017. Teams can have an unlimited amount of Coaches and Boosters.

How do we add Players to our team if we already have 9 or if it’s after June 1, 12p EST?

You must pay $1,000 per player up until the tournament starts. As you advance through the tournament, you may add more players, but it will cost increasing amounts. It’s $2,000 to add a player heading into the Super 16 and $3,000 to add a player heading into the Semifinals. See more in the Rules.

Interesting. Didn’t know teams can add players so late. I wonder if or when we’ll see a legitimate NBA star (presumably a recently-retired one) join a roster for the final two games.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 30, 2018, 09:57:42 AM
Was checking out the other semifinalists and realized that one of them features a former Warrior: https://www.thetournament.com/teams/eberlein-drive

Liam McMorrow is on Eberlein Drive's roster and even lists Marquette(/Tennessee Tech) as his alma mater. He hasn't played in the last two rounds but he did play before that.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 30, 2018, 10:25:52 AM
Was checking out the other semifinalists and realized that one of them features a former Warrior: https://www.thetournament.com/teams/eberlein-drive

Liam McMorrow is on Eberlein Drive's roster and even lists Marquette(/Tennessee Tech) as his alma mater. He hasn't played in the last two rounds but he did play before that.

Why was it that he wasn't allowed to play here but was elsewhere?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 30, 2018, 10:27:55 AM
Why was it that he wasn't allowed to play here but was elsewhere?

How it was told to me was that he had a heart condition and our team docs wouldn't clear him to play.  Tennessee techs must have come to a different conclusion. Who was right? IDK
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MomofMUltiples on July 30, 2018, 11:15:04 AM
How it was told to me was that he had a heart condition and our team docs wouldn't clear him to play.  Tennessee techs must have come to a different conclusion. Who was right? IDK

If he didn't collapse and die in practice or on the court, Tennessee Tech's doctors were right.  Or at least relieved.  It's a liability issue.  Same thing happened with Jarvis Johnson at Minnesota, even though external doctors (Mayo, I think) said he was OK to play.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on July 30, 2018, 11:28:39 AM
If he didn't collapse and die in practice or on the court, Tennessee Tech's doctors were right.  Or at least relieved.  It's a liability issue.  Same thing happened with Jarvis Johnson at Minnesota, even though external doctors (Mayo, I think) said he was OK to play.

Wouldn't be the first time docs disagreed on ability to play (Bosh with blood clots, Kawhi with the quad, etc.)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on July 30, 2018, 03:10:51 PM
When MU wins it all, how do we get our cut?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on July 30, 2018, 06:39:21 PM
When MU wins it all, how do we get our cut?

Yeah, Doc, $2M big ones.

I mean, that would cover almost an entire year's beer purchases for me!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Newsdreams on July 30, 2018, 06:51:07 PM
4ever don't open this tweet!
https://twitter.com/jerel_mcneal/status/1024069381926670336?s=21
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on July 30, 2018, 07:04:04 PM
Yeah, Doc, $2M big ones.

I mean, that would cover almost an entire year's beer purchases for me!

If you signed up to vote for them on the fan page, you get a share of the $2million.  IIRC, my share was $1000. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on July 30, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
You can.  See the TBT website.

Don't think so. Many months ago they had a couple of years available and I scooped one (for like $15!)... but, they appear to have been sold out of MU jerseys for a looong time.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 30, 2018, 07:22:34 PM
This is freakin' adorable:

https://twitter.com/DienerTravis/status/1024082747877408770
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MomofMUltiples on July 30, 2018, 07:32:48 PM
This is freakin' adorable:

https://twitter.com/DienerTravis/status/1024082747877408770

Looks like Luca is working on that footwork.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: jsglow on July 30, 2018, 08:56:42 PM
Looks like Luca is working on that footwork.

And his distribution skills.  See that nana toss while looking away?  Quick, I gotta go get an update in the recruiting thread.   ;D
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on July 30, 2018, 09:23:59 PM
Georgia just added a paragraph to their media guide, heynawwww?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 30, 2018, 09:40:16 PM
If you signed up to vote for them on the fan page, you get a share of the $2million.  IIRC, my share was $1000.

I think everyone currently in the money will likely get knocked back a category or two. Our top few fans have 600-800 points. There are teams that are eliminated with fans who have thousands, some over 10,000.

At any time, you can switch teams, but you lose half your points. So if MU beats Overseas Elite, I quite a few people to switch teams before the final.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: real chili 83 on July 30, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
IF they win, is it an even split?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 30, 2018, 11:01:38 PM
IF they win, is it an even split?

All the shares are on the team page on the TBT website.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 30, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
I think everyone currently in the money will likely get knocked back a category or two. Our top few fans have 600-800 points. There are teams that are eliminated with fans who have thousands, some over 10,000.

At any time, you can switch teams, but you lose half your points. So if MU beats Overseas Elite, I quite a few people to switch teams before the final.

And so it begins...the new Golden Eagles fan leader has 3,704 points. Definitely sacrificed half their points to get in line for the $40,000.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: #UnleashSean on July 30, 2018, 11:09:30 PM
And so it begins...the new Golden Eagles fan leader has 3,704 points. Definitely sacrificed half their points to get in line for the $40,000.

Dumb. Voting should stop after bracket is made.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: real chili 83 on July 31, 2018, 04:26:16 AM
All the shares are on the team page on the TBT website.

What I found is a listing of salaries, which are all equal. Is that the page you are referring to?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on July 31, 2018, 07:48:08 AM
What I found is a listing of salaries, which are all equal. Is that the page you are referring to?

Yes, some teams have different salary levels for players, some all take a $1 salary and donate the winnings to charity (Like Team Challenge ALS).
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: bilsu on July 31, 2018, 02:10:08 PM
Why was it that he wasn't allowed to play here but was elsewhere?
I believe could not play here, because MU took him off the team for medical reasons. This allowed MU to still give him a scholarship. The also allowed MU to use his basketball scholarship. This made him ineligible to play at MU. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on July 31, 2018, 02:52:50 PM
I believe could not play here, because MU took him off the team for medical reasons. This allowed MU to still give him a scholarship. The also allowed MU to use his basketball scholarship. This made him ineligible to play at MU.

No, your understanding is wrong. See Bylaw 15.5.1.2.2 Change in Circumstances. You can later compete for the same institution. The issue is (CAN BE, depending on the school/sport’s specific circumstances) that you then become a counter for all years that you were receiving aid under the medical exemption.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on July 31, 2018, 09:21:34 PM
If you signed up to vote for them on the fan page, you get a share of the $2million.  IIRC, my share was $1000.

I confess that I didn't even know you could do that. I've been quite lukewarm (at best) on the whole TBT thing. I have enjoyed these last 2 games more than I thought I would.

So good for you ... and bad for me. I hope you win lots of dough. If so, the next one is (or next 10 are) on you!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on July 31, 2018, 09:54:05 PM
And his distribution skills.  See that nana toss while looking away?  Quick, I gotta go get an update in the recruiting thread.   ;D

And here's Grandpa Diener watching the winning shot...

https://twitter.com/DienerTravis/status/1024130220788465664
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: LoudMouth on August 01, 2018, 05:26:46 PM
Uhh Ohh...TBT might be onto the people with 10,000+ points.

"We wanted to let you know that over the course of the next two weeks we will be auditing fan accounts to ensure the integrity of point totals. We are 100% certain at this point that standings and point totals will change, so don't be alarmed when you see adjustments being made. Several fans have been expelled from the competition already and there will be more forthcoming." - TBT

Turns out that paying India to make fake accounts doesn't actually pay off
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: LoudMouth on August 01, 2018, 05:30:34 PM
Also, unless I'm missing something, isn't it impossible to have a point total ending in something other than 0 or 5?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: brewcity77 on August 01, 2018, 05:42:48 PM
Also, unless I'm missing something, isn't it impossible to have a point total ending in something other than 0 or 5?

No, if you switch teams, you lose half your points. So a total ending in 5 could drop to a 3, 3 to 2, 2 to 1, 1 to 6, etc. Though I've seen 9s and I'm not sure how that happened.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 01, 2018, 07:56:38 PM
So good for you ... and bad for me. I hope you win lots of dough. If so, the next one is (or next 10 are) on you!

I will buy you four on Triples Night at the Brat House. An even dozen.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on August 01, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
I will buy you four on Triples Night at the Brat House. An even dozen.

Deal!

Go Fighting Dieners!!!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on August 02, 2018, 04:47:51 PM
Individual advanced stats through 4 games:

https://twitter.com/jbbauer612/status/1025117931582238721?s=21

Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Danny Noonan on August 02, 2018, 05:52:08 PM
Wojo at the game- Nice!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Jay Bee on August 02, 2018, 05:58:00 PM
Chat room:
http://us21.chatzy.com/56874757820157
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 02, 2018, 06:14:10 PM
Fun while it lasted
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: LoudMouth on August 02, 2018, 06:19:33 PM
Looking like we don’t need to worry about those points anymore
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: 79Warrior on August 02, 2018, 07:14:27 PM
Wojo at the game- Nice!

Wojo back on the home turf
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on August 02, 2018, 07:28:45 PM
For as awesome as Acker was the first 4 rounds he’s been equally awful tonight. If we simply get “bad” Mo we might be in the lead going into the 4th quarter. Those cross court passes leading to runout turnovers are horrendous.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 02, 2018, 08:08:29 PM
For as awesome as Acker was the first 4 rounds he’s been equally awful tonight. If we simply get “bad” Mo we might be in the lead going into the 4th quarter. Those cross court passes leading to runout turnovers are horrendous.

Chapman cost me $1000 with his coaching tonight. Fired!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on August 02, 2018, 08:19:19 PM
Chapman cost me $1000 with his coaching tonight. Fired!
too small...too old...  great effort to get to the semis....  thanks guys for the effort and all the summer fun!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: LoudMouth on August 02, 2018, 08:29:09 PM
TBT Final Four...Raise the banner!
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on August 02, 2018, 08:30:09 PM
TBT Final Four...Raise the banner!
In the Old Gym....
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 02, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
Wojo at the game- Nice!

Did Crean show up for the ESPN photo op?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 02, 2018, 08:32:00 PM
too small...too old...  great effort to get to the semis....  thanks guys for the effort and all the summer fun!

Absolutely destroyed at the start of both halves. No tired legs there.

Do agree. A great run and fun in the summer. Pick up ball but the OAS taking it seriously including the game prep.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: LoudMouth on August 02, 2018, 08:33:09 PM
In the Old Gym....
Now you're talking.. or we put our monthly dues for scoop into updating the header to reflect our banners
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MerrittsMustache on August 02, 2018, 09:20:11 PM
Absolutely destroyed at the start of both halves. No tired legs there.

Do agree. A great run and fun in the summer. Pick up ball but the OAS taking it seriously including the game prep.

MU always gets blown out on national TV.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on August 02, 2018, 09:39:08 PM
MU always gets blown out on national TV.



We’re they wearing baby blue too???
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 02, 2018, 10:11:17 PM

We’re they wearing baby blue too???

Those are now called "Victory Blue", I believe.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on August 02, 2018, 10:20:48 PM
Seriously, it reminded me of the last time Diener was in the Final Four.

I met a couple of MU friends at a local bar, and by the time the second one arrived, we were down by 17.

Just like Kansas.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: T-Bone on August 02, 2018, 10:29:21 PM
Chapman's Huddles:  Pass to Rel.

Needed more "Compete! Arby's! Compete! Horsey SAUCE!"
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: muhoopsfan6@yahoo.com on August 03, 2018, 08:51:36 AM
I really enjoyed our run in the TBT.  I had more fun watching us win the previous couple games than I ever would have thought.  Felt bad for Diener Trend and Jerel.  We talked about the Kansas game as well, damn I had hoped to never remember that one..

I am hoping we can put together a new team next season.  I'd like to see Devonte, Nique, maybe Lazar and Reinhardt to go along with Jamil and Jerel and Diener.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: wadesworld on August 03, 2018, 08:54:10 AM
I say drop Trend, the UWM guy, and Jake and add Buycks, Davante, and Rowsey.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: warriorchick on August 03, 2018, 08:57:36 AM
I say drop Trend, the UWM guy, and Jake and add Buycks, Davante, and Rowsey.

Add Wade while you are at it.   ;)
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: LoudMouth on August 03, 2018, 09:20:51 AM
Add Wade while you are at it.   ;)
I don't think next year, but with the way DWade was tweeting out and showing love to the team, I wouldn't be surprised if he played at least one time
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: NWarsh on August 03, 2018, 09:22:33 AM
I don't think next year, but with the way DWade was tweeting out and showing love to the team, I wouldn't be surprised if he played at least one time

I would be very surprised if he ever played in this event.  Why would he?
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on August 03, 2018, 09:36:48 AM
Lazar would be the perfect addition to this team.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 03, 2018, 09:45:06 AM
Lazar would be the perfect addition to this team.

College Lazar or Lazar that is playing in the Venezuelan league and not even listed on the official roster
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Nukem2 on August 03, 2018, 09:50:53 AM
I say drop Trend, the UWM guy, and Jake and add Buycks, Davante, and Rowsey.
This MU TBT team really lacked length. Did have Trend, but well he is Trend.  Needed some Jameel McKay long athletic type guys (w/o the head case).
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on August 03, 2018, 09:59:19 AM
Really tough night for Jamil. 
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: LoudMouth on August 03, 2018, 10:01:07 AM
I would be very surprised if he ever played in this event.  Why would he?
School pride, play with old teammates, bring MU a championship, no such thing as too much good publicity, laugh that 40 year old him is better than 25 year olds, might be retired and want to still hoop competitively from time to time
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 03, 2018, 10:13:37 AM
School pride, play with old teammates, bring MU a championship, no such thing as too much good publicity, laugh that 40 year old him is better than 25 year olds, might be retired and want to still hoop competitively from time to time

More likely to play in 3v3 I'd bet but maybe if the squad got enough of the old FF team (looking at you Novak) they could convince him to at least be a coach
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: NWarsh on August 03, 2018, 10:23:38 AM
More likely to play in 3v3 I'd bet but maybe if the squad got enough of the old FF team (looking at you Novak) they could convince him to at least be a coach

Yeah, this is where I stand too.  There is no upside for him to compete in this thing.  I could see him involved in other ways like hurler mentioned, as some sort of coach.  But he probably remains as their highest profile cheerleader. That is fine by me, because anytime he mentions MU it brings our university to millions of people who otherwise would have no exposure to it.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Herman Cain on August 03, 2018, 02:00:26 PM
College Lazar or Lazar that is playing in the Venezuelan league and not even listed on the official roster
He has played well in all the stops he has made the past few years.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: StateStreetMission on August 03, 2018, 03:20:01 PM
College Lazar or Lazar that is playing in the Venezuelan league and not even listed on the official roster

I hope he is not being paid in local currency
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 03, 2018, 03:21:54 PM
I hope he is not being paid in local currency

Probably being paid in Ayahuasca
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 03, 2018, 03:56:42 PM
Really tough night for Jamil.

spent too much time trash talking DJ Kennedy, who was schooling him. Not enough Travis out there.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: MU82 on August 05, 2018, 10:56:44 PM
I don't think next year, but with the way DWade was tweeting out and showing love to the team, I wouldn't be surprised if he played at least one time

I'm not seeing any future Hall of Famers and multiple NBA title-winners hobbling down the court in their late 30s to play for the kind of money they used to make in a couple of NBA games.

But sure, maybe DW will be the first.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: WarriorFan on August 06, 2018, 06:56:51 AM
That was a lot of fun, and I don't think that's anywhere near the best team we could put forward.  I'd like to see the same core with Mo, Jamil, Jerel, and Travis plus add Davante, Novak, Otule, Buycks.  I also really enjoyed watching the two other Milwaukee guys having followed them from their youth - especially Bowers, who projected to be a real stud before all of his well documented issues. 

Also, from my perspective, Mo was great.  Really enjoyed watching him.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on August 06, 2018, 04:05:21 PM
Deadspin story on Overseas Elite.  They almost didn't sign up this year.
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: rocky_warrior on August 07, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
Deadspin story on Overseas Elite.  They almost didn't sign up this year.

https://deadspin.com/how-one-team-built-a-dynasty-and-won-7-million-in-the-1828129302
Title: Re: TBT 2018
Post by: GGGG on August 07, 2018, 10:36:54 AM
Ooops.  Thanks rocky.