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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: NCMUFan on January 16, 2018, 05:54:15 AM
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Heldt, John, Froling, Cain, Anim and Elliott. We know what Rowsey, Howard and Hauser can do. If we are going to be dancing the listed six guys are the ones that are going to get us there. They have come a long ways already this season. I don't think they have to play harder, just smarter. Less turnovers, making defense assignments, taking smart shots.
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The unheralded 6 all played well against DePaul. And every compliment is going to be tempered with a ..."but it was DePaul". They were all committed to defense. The freshmen were committed to making plays. Froling showed what we hoped he would be. That drive from the 3 pt line was really good. Cain's release on his jumper in the lane was nearly at rim height. Theo dunked and blocked like an enforcer should. Elliott's handle is still a little sloppy, but I am curious how much of that is due to his left thumb.
If they all find ways to contribute in every game going forward, MU can be pretty darn good.
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DePaul came close to upsetting Xavier at Cintas. They took Oregon to overtime, were a basket away from beating Northwestern, and had a sizable lead on Providence. No, they're not a great team, but we made them look bad while playing pretty poorly ourselves.
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The unheralded 6 all played well against DePaul. And every compliment is going to be tempered with a ..."but it was DePaul". They were all committed to defense. The freshmen were committed to making plays. Froling showed what we hoped he would be. That drive from the 3 pt line was really good. Cain's release on his jumper in the lane was nearly at rim height. Theo dunked and blocked like an enforcer should. Elliott's handle is still a little sloppy, but I am curious how much of that is due to his left thumb.
If they all find ways to contribute in every game going forward, MU can be pretty darn good.
Worst team nickname ever.
Honestly, though, these were the guys - outside of Sam - that kept us in rhythm and got it done tonight. Rowsey and Markus just seemed disjointed (good to get it out of the system, and plenty of coaching to do in the next 9 days). But these guys came thru. Froling didn't force anything, and Cain is just so smooth.
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DePaul came close to upsetting Xavier at Cintas. They took Oregon to overtime, were a basket away from beating Northwestern, and had a sizable lead on Providence. No, they're not a great team, but we made them look bad while playing pretty poorly ourselves.
This. I've seem DePaul play several times on TV this year and genuinely believed they were making real progress. I didn't get to see the entire game last night but putting a bullet in any BEast team by halftime is a laudable accomplishment.
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Worst team nickname ever.
Honestly, though, these were the guys - outside of Sam - that kept us in rhythm and got it done tonight. Rowsey and Markus just seemed disjointed (good to get it out of the system, and plenty of coaching to do in the next 9 days). But these guys came thru. Froling didn't force anything, and Cain is just so smooth.
I'm actually a little concerned about how we will react to how we are defended now. The last two games our opponents really concentrated on forcing Rowsey and Howard off the three point line to make them penetrators, and then have defenders waiting for them in the lane daring them to pass. They both (particularly Rowsey) have a penchant for driving into crowds/trouble. We are going to need those two to distribute without turning it over and we are going to need those 6 to catch and score the rest of the way to be successful.
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Heldt, John, Froling, Cain, Anim and Elliott. We know what Rowsey, Howard and Hauser can do. If we are going to be dancing the listed six guys are the ones that are going to get us there. They have come a long ways already this season. I don't think they have to play harder, just smarter. Less turnovers, making defense assignments, taking smart shots.
I get what you're saying, but we don't win without a big game from one of our Big 3 unless it's against a really bad opponent. If most or all of the "unheralded 6" are off their game, we'll struggle but still have a shot. If all 3 studs struggle, I don't see anyone else being able to pick up that much slack.
Luckily, our 3 studs are just that - studs. When one struggles, the others are there to pick the team up. These guys are about 70% of our scoring, which is what wins us ball games. For us to get to the dance, we still need Rowsey, Howard, or Hauser to show up every game. For us to be a lock, continued contributions from the other guys is key. If the freshmen keep stepping up, Harry keeps pounding the boards, and Sacar continues to slow down scoring threats we can be dangerous come March.
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DePaul has made some nice strides and not the patsy they have been for quite some time. They might be a nice path to building a sound program. Last nights win is a decent win overall.
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DePaul has made some nice strides and not the patsy they have been for quite some time. They might be a nice path to building a sound program. Last nights win is a decent win overall.
Sorry, what strides have they made?
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Sorry, what strides have they made?
Have you seen that perty new stadium?
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DePaul came close to upsetting Xavier at Cintas. They took Oregon to overtime, were a basket away from beating Northwestern, and had a sizable lead on Providence. No, they're not a great team, but we made them look bad while playing pretty poorly ourselves.
FTs matta...
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Sorry, what strides have they made?
I mean, they're close to a top 100 RPI win. Not sure where they finished the last several years, but feel like it was much closer to 150.
Edit: I took a look at Kenpom - results of which are below. Feel like this can't be right.
2017 - 183
2016 - 183
2015 - 150
2014 - 183 (nothing if not consistent, eh?)
2013 - 173
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Sorry, what strides have they made?
Solid shot at finishing 9th in the BE.
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I mean, they're close to a top 100 RPI win. Not sure where they finished the last several years, but feel like it was much closer to 150.
Edit: I took a look at Kenpom - results of which are below. Feel like this can't be right.
2017 - 183
2016 - 183
2015 - 150
2014 - 183 (nothing if not consistent, eh?)
2013 - 173
I know it's early, but their RPI is 185 right now. I don't see how they climb much higher than 160, which in itself is doubtful.
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I know it's early, but their RPI is 185 right now. I don't see how they climb much higher than 160, which in itself is doubtful.
What's your source? I know there are different ways of estimating that I don't fully appreciate. I used KenPom just for apples to apples - they are currently 109 after last night there.
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What's your source? I know there are different ways of estimating that I don't fully appreciate. I used KenPom just for apples to apples - they are currently 109 after last night there.
NCAA publishes the RPI. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
DPU at 184
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What's your source? I know there are different ways of estimating that I don't fully appreciate. I used KenPom just for apples to apples - they are currently 109 after last night there.
They are 109 in Kenpom. Not RPI. The numbers you listed are all Kenpom, not RPI.
So yes they are definitely much improved this year according to Kenpom.
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NCAA publishes the RPI. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
DPU at 184
Hopefully they can reach 183. Seems to be the # they are striving for.
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Depaul looked pretty terrible lat night, but I think they're much improved from previous seasons.
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Hopefully they can reach 183. Seems to be the # they are striving for.
Eighty three...