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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on November 12, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
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Purdue demolished Chicago State. Butler letting Princeton hang around. But they will probably hang on.
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Vermont gave Kentucky fight
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Yes they did.
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Georgetown looked a little better than I thought, cupcake considered. Well-organized, playing Gtown defense.
Creighton, while winning big, looks wayward. A lot of depth but missing pieces as TAMU laid out on preview.
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Butler was a 9 point favorite. Remember Princeton lost by 2 to Notre Dame in the tournament last year. So, nice test for Butler.
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Vermont gave Kentucky fight
Really can't take much from that. Kentucky struggled with Utah Valley the other night also. They tend to struggle in the early part of the year, every year.
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Really can't take much from that. Kentucky struggled with Utah Valley the other night also. They tend to struggle in the early part of the year, every year.
Also was Vermont's first game of the year though
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:Oh....and last we you guys shot me down for saying Vermont was going to be a significantly tough game for us.....
Just shows who knows college Bball and who does not.....
Vermont should have beat Kentucky but shot very poorly for them from 3.....
I hope we get that lucky.....
I put our odds of winning that game at 40% and only because we are at home.....
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Vermont should have beat Kentucky but shot very poorly for them from 3.....
And we should have won the national title last season, but we failed to win 6 games after our conference tournament ended.
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:Oh....and last we you guys shot me down for saying Vermont was going to be a significantly tough game for us.....
Just shows who knows college Bball and who does not.....
Vermont should have beat Kentucky but shot very poorly for them from 3.....
I hope we get that lucky.....
I put our odds of winning that game at 40% and only because we are at home.....
No one said Vermont wouldn't be a tough game.
40% seems very pessimistic. Vermont is a very good team and has been for years. They have yet to beat a high major team in the non-conference under this coach. Could we be the first? Sure.
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:Oh....and last we you guys shot me down for saying Vermont was going to be a significantly tough game for us.....
Just shows who knows college Bball and who does not.....
Vermont should have beat Kentucky but shot very poorly for them from 3.....
I hope we get that lucky.....
I put our odds of winning that game at 40% and only because we are at home.....
I don't remember anyone saying Vermont was going to be easy or shooting anyone down?
In fact I remember almost everyone mentioning that it would be a really good test because of how well Vermont has played the last few years.
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I remember a couple of people keeping us up on MU foes’ records last year. I remember being pleased by the quality records of our opponents especially the BE as a whole. So far this year only DP fallen so far to ranked ND.
I would never be consistent enough to keep up those stats but if someone else keeps us posted, I’ll be interested.
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Friday – November 10
MU 80, MSM 59
SHU 90, FDU 68
Butler 82, Kennesaw State 64
SJU 77, New Orleans 61
Xavier 101, Moreland State 49
PU 84, Houston Baptist 55
Nova 75, Columbia 60
CU 92, Yale 76
Big East record 8-0
Saturday November 11
ND 72, DePaul 59
Big East record 8-1
Sunday November 12
GU 73, Jacksonville 57
SHU 75, Monmount 65
Butler 85, Princeton 75
CU 109, Alcorn State 72
Big East record 12-1
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Wisconsin is Happ, Davison, and the Kohl center. Xavier needs to be patient and attack the rim.
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Wisconsin is Happ, Davison, and the Kohl center. Xavier needs to be patient and attack the rim.
They lost momentum when they stopped driving and settled for outside shots. Xavier is pretty clearly the better team, but that fact alone doesn't guarantee them a win.
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They lost momentum when they stopped driving and settled for outside shots. Xavier is pretty clearly the better team, but that fact alone doesn't guarantee them a win.
The issue is mostly Blueitt. Guy needs to realize there's a game being played.
Every time I watch this guy he either cannot miss or looks like he should be a walk on.
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The issue is mostly Blueitt. Guy needs to realize there's a game being played.
Every time I watch this guy he either cannot miss or looks like he should be a walk on.
Might have something to do with defense. Play teams like Marquette, can't miss. Play Wisconsin and he's kept in check.
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Might have something to do with defense. Play teams like Marquette, can't miss. Play Wisconsin and he's kept in check.
Yeah those types of players are typically voted Preseason All American type players...
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Might have something to do with defense. Play teams like Marquette, can't miss. Play Wisconsin and he's kept in check.
He was 4/9 vs us
Hardly can't miss
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West Virginia beat American by 34
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Looks like Blueitt can go erratic from half to half
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Guess I just had to stop watching. XU was tied at 64 when we caught a run. Finished 16-6 to beat Bucky. Man is Wisconsin one dimensional. They are one Ethan Happ injury away from being Rutgers.
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Guess I just had to stop watching. XU was tied at 64 when we caught a run. Finished 16-6 to beat Bucky. Man is Wisconsin one dimensional. They are one Ethan Happ injury away from being Rutgers.
Funny, to read what the fans have to say they are extremely excited about their freshman.
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Funny, to read what the fans have to say they are extremely excited about their freshman.
Davison will be a player, no one else showed much. Happ does make everyone on that team look better, though. He's great at finding cutters, outside shooters, really impressive passing from out of the post. He is their entire team. Take him away and they would've lost by 40 yesterday.
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Davison will be a player, no one else showed much. Happ does make everyone on that team look better, though. He's great at finding cutters, outside shooters, really impressive passing from out of the post. He is their entire team. Take him away and they would've lost by 40 yesterday.
Fortunately, Marquette has shown it can play excellent post defense...
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Fortunately, Marquette has shown it can play excellent post defense...
Oh, Ethan Happ will absolutely eat us alive this year. Book it.
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Oh, Ethan Happ will absolutely eat us alive this year. Book it.
If this game is close, we need to send in Cam to tackle Happ at the end of each half.
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Oh, Ethan Happ will absolutely eat us alive this year. Book it.
So what?? Let him have his...make everyone else beat them...can they do it?? I doubt it.
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So what?? Let him have his...make everyone else beat them...can they do it?? I doubt it.
That's why we play the games.
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So what?? Let him have his...make everyone else beat them...can they do it?? I doubt it.
Um... We tried this in the Purdue game and you kept complaining that it was a bad gameplan...
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Hards
Happ will have a field day. He did last year in the second and I expect more of the same when the game arrives.
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Hards
Happ will have a field day. He did last year in the second and I expect more of the same when the game arrives.
Exactly, he ate Luke Fischer alive... No chance Heldt slows him down, and Theo will foul out trying, probably.
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The Badger game will be interesting. We have no one who can stop Happ. That is just a statement of fact. But Happ's supporting cast is night and day worse from what he had last season. Trice is qualtiy but not as good as Koenig was. Davison will be a player in a year or two. Iverson is solid. Pritzl is another Showalter. The rest? Very suspect so far.
Do you double Happ and make everyone else beat you? Or do you let Happ score twos and just run to the other side and make a three?
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Vermont won a close one over Bradley in their preseason tournament. Very winnable tournament for them.
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The Badger game will be interesting. We have no one who can stop Happ. That is just a statement of fact. But Happ's supporting cast is night and day worse from what he had last season. Trice is qualtiy but not as good as Koenig was. Davison will be a player in a year or two. Iverson is solid. Pritzl is another Showalter. The rest? Very suspect so far.
Do you double Happ and make everyone else beat you? Or do you let Happ score twos and just run to the other side and make a three?
I double-team Happ and see what the others can do, at least some of the time.
What some might forget is that we had a HT lead last year because Luke helped get Happ in quick foul trouble. We don't have that kind of post presence now, nor do we have a slasher like JJJ who can take it to the rack and maybe draw a foul.
A quick look at the play-by-play last year also showed that Luke blocked one of Happ's early shots.
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I double-team Happ and see what the others can do, at least some of the time.
What some might forget is that we had a HT lead last year because Luke helped get Happ in quick foul trouble. We don't have that kind of post presence now, nor do we have a slasher like JJJ who can take it to the rack and maybe draw a foul.
A quick look at the play-by-play last year also showed that Luke blocked one of Happ's early shots.
Double teaming the big guys from Purdue didn't work out so well
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Double teaming the big guys from Purdue didn't work out so well
Different team. Idk why you keep saying this.
Purdue shot almost as good as we did from 3 last year. And they returned that group of shooters.
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Double teaming the big guys from Purdue didn't work out so well
Purdue can shoot the 3 and had multiple very good bigs and experience everywhere. Wisconsin is young in the backcourt.
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Purdue can shoot the 3 and had multiple very good bigs and experience everywhere. Wisconsin is young in the backcourt.
Who's our new frequent poster? Retread or actually new?
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Who's our new frequent poster? Retread or actually new?
Don't know but I dig the handle
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Different team. Idk why you keep saying this.
Purdue shot almost as good as we did from 3 last year. And they returned that group of shooters.
I keep saying it?
Two bigs ate our bigs up. Ethan Happ is better than either of those Purdue bigs.
He will eat our bigs alive... mercilessly.
That's all I'm saying.
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Don't know but I dig the handle
I’ll never forget the reaction I got the first time I asked where the nearest tyme machine was outside the state of WI
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I’ll never forget the reaction I got the first time I asked where the nearest tyme machine was outside the state of WI
Next to the bubbler, of course.
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Next to the bubbler, of course.
...and that was the next most bizarre reaction I got; when I asked where the bubbler was. True story
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Virginia and VCU *were* in a nail bitter in Richmond
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Oh, Ethan Happ will absolutely eat us alive this year. Book it.
I expect the same as every game MU plays at the Kohl Center. Happ will sit most of the game due to foul trouble because the Badgers get called for a foul every time they so much as breathe on an MU player....wait, I might have that wrong.
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Virginia and VCU *were* in a nail bitter in Richmond
I was unimpressed with VCU against North Florida but thought they played well tonight.
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Who's our new frequent poster? Retread or actually new?
Judging from the "another shooting" thread, Chicos is back, circumventing another ban.
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We all know the transitive property of basketball is not a thing. But I'll throw this out there. The Mount just beat North Florida.
We were up 36 on the mount before easing up and winning by 20.
VCU was tied or within a bucket of North Florida (can't remember) with about 2 minutes left before a small run and hitting free throws gave them a 10 point win.
We got this.
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We all know the transitive property of basketball is not a thing. But I'll throw this out there. The Mount just beat North Florida.
We were up 36 on the mount before easing up and winning by 20.
VCU was tied or within a bucket of North Florida (can't remember) with about 2 minutes left before a small run and hitting free throws gave them a 10 point win.
We got this.
VCU is a very athletic team, much like the Big East, not very big but reminds me of MU teams under Buzz. Matt again will have a problem, it might be all about the forwards
again. Sam will be out quicked, so if MU wants to win it will need something from Cheatham and Sacar. Another team that looks like a college team compared to MU's
physicality. Virginia just was tougher, not sure MU can beat them. They do press but I do not think it will bother MU. They have a quick little guard that runs all over
the place, can not just let him get into the lane. Close game.
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One other point, played a state rivalry on Friday, then they have to fly to Maui, arrived sometime today. They have to be tired. Great idea for Wojo to stop in LA, about
4 to 5 hours more to Maui so MU should be a bit rested compared to VCU, plus they probably will come in less excited playing MU after a tough loss at home.
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VCU is a very athletic team, much like the Big East, not very big but reminds me of MU teams under Buzz. Matt again will have a problem, it might be all about the forwards
again. Sam will be out quicked, so if MU wants to win it will need something from Cheatham and Sacar. Another team that looks like a college team compared to MU's
physicality. Virginia just was tougher, not sure MU can beat them. They do press but I do not think it will bother MU. They have a quick little guard that runs all over
the place, can not just let him get into the lane. Close game.
Our big three will be very productive. Our next three will be improved from Purdue. Will be a close game but our firepower will carry the day.
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This isn't the first time I've seen someone at Sam isn't quick. I don't understand where that idea comes from
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This isn't the first time I've seen someone at Sam isn't quick. I don't understand where that idea comes from
Probably because he plays under control instead of running around like a chicken with his head cut off.
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American picked up a nice road win last night @ New Hampshire. Kenpom rating jumped 10 spots as a result.
Purdue is tied at half against Tennessee. Need them to pull that out.
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This thread needs a theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_JU1OD-OLU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_JU1OD-OLU)
Also, for when MU makes the NCAA Tourney this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kdH3JuK_Po (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kdH3JuK_Po)
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Not our best afternoon, with both Purdue and VCU losing.