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Title: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 08, 2017, 12:22:45 PM
Former Marquette student Luis Arias (18-0) is fighting the no3 Middleweight Danny Jacobs (32-2) this Saturday at Madison Square Garden. A win here would catapult him into world title conversation with the likes of Canelo and GGG.

I’m aware 90% won’t care to watch but everybody goes nuts for other former MU athletes so I’m doing my best to support the guy.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: SoCalEagle on November 08, 2017, 12:40:36 PM
Did the guy graduate from Marquette?  Pretty rare for a title contender to have a college degree, so that would be a note of interest.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 08, 2017, 12:45:03 PM
Did the guy graduate from Marquette?  Pretty rare for a title contender to have a college degree, so that would be a note of interest.

Dropped out after 3 years to focus on career.

The other MU pro Luis Feliciano did graduate though and while he’s still awhile from a title shot I’m fairly sure he’ll get there
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: 🏀 on November 08, 2017, 01:24:21 PM
Where could one watch this?
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: SoCalEagle on November 08, 2017, 01:30:57 PM
This article may be of interest. It's about the first title match featuring both fighters with college degrees:

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/16/sports/sp-crowe16

Palomino greew up in my neighborhood. Great role model for us as kids. He always talked about school, not boxing.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 08, 2017, 01:32:24 PM
Where could one watch this?

HBO, 9pm CST
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: wadesworld on November 08, 2017, 01:45:04 PM
Also graduated a year behind me at MUHS.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: 🏀 on November 08, 2017, 05:42:20 PM
HBO, 9pm CST

Cool, I'll tune in after the U craps all over ND.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Herman Cain on November 08, 2017, 07:04:38 PM
Former Marquette student Luis Arias (18-0) is fighting the no3 Middleweight Danny Jacobs (32-2) this Saturday at Madison Square Garden. A win here would catapult him into world title conversation with the likes of Canelo and GGG.

I’m aware 90% won’t care to watch but everybody goes nuts for other former MU athletes so I’m doing my best to support the guy.
Thanks for letting us know. I will be rooting for Luis.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 08, 2017, 09:27:53 PM
Goota great neck too, I bet, ai na?
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 08, 2017, 09:52:19 PM
You can see he really loves MU

(https://cdn1.lockerdomecdn.com/uploads/8c3e4c151eeb647d1b6d07ccf04db45e1e95e8e64f287c0cdb8f2d8b28e4142f_large)
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Benny B on November 08, 2017, 10:42:04 PM
Awesome.  Boxing is finally worth watching again.  [not sarcastic]
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 09, 2017, 03:13:51 PM
I was just reading a bio on local boxer here in Connecticut who's the current WBC Weltereight Champion. 
His day job is a as a Truancy Officer in Greater New Haven Area high school.  I'm guessing no student mess with him.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 09, 2017, 05:18:24 PM
I was just reading a bio on local boxer here in Connecticut who's the current WBC Weltereight Champion. 
His day job is a as a Truancy Officer in Greater New Haven Area high school.  I'm guessing no student mess with him.

Who? Because Keith Thurman is the WBC Welterweight champion and he's from Florida.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 10, 2017, 11:04:38 AM
Who? Because Keith Thurman is the WBC Welterweight champion and he's from Florida.
BB, Here you go.  Perhaps I misquoted?

West Haven's Quiet Storm Carries Us With Him Into the Ring
Michael Lee-Murphy  Oct 30, 2017

http://www.connecticutmag.com/the-connecticut-story/west-haven-s-quiet-storm-carries-us-with-him-into/article_8ee2fa88-b436-11e7-abaf-db4851cc79d9.html
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 10, 2017, 11:27:42 AM
BB, Here you go.  Perhaps I misquoted?

West Haven's Quiet Storm Carries Us With Him Into the Ring
Michael Lee-Murphy  Oct 30, 2017

http://www.connecticutmag.com/the-connecticut-story/west-haven-s-quiet-storm-carries-us-with-him-into/article_8ee2fa88-b436-11e7-abaf-db4851cc79d9.html

This is one of the more confusing things about boxing, there’s too many belts. So he’s the WBC USNBC welterweight champion. Essentially the equivalent of being the British welterweight champion. That doesn’t equate to a world title belt, it makes no sense because you’d think that if an American welterweight is the world title holder he’d hold the USNBC belt as well but that’s not what happens with a million belts out there. Jimmy Williams is old but should crack the top 10 before all is said and done
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: The Lens on November 10, 2017, 12:53:56 PM
Hilltop On Top!  Go Cuba, win the WAR!
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Herman Cain on November 11, 2017, 02:41:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8_R-MhMTAE

https://www.si.com/boxing/2017/10/04/luis-arias-middleweight-boxer
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: HouWarrior on November 11, 2017, 08:30:32 PM
Dropped out after 3 years to focus on career.

The other MU pro Luis Feliciano did graduate though and while he’s still awhile from a title shot I’m fairly sure he’ll get there
They must have majored in the "Sweet Science"
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 11, 2017, 10:39:24 PM
Love arias but he’s looking outclassed. Wondered how he got this fight so early in his career and think with more experience he could make this better
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: B. McBannerson on November 11, 2017, 11:09:31 PM
Admire his pugnaciousness, but he was completely outclassed.  He talked a lot leading up to the fight, which some guys do for confidence, but this clearly irked Jacobs.  No contest. 

12 rounds to 0
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: wadesworld on November 12, 2017, 12:10:13 AM
Admire his pugnaciousness, but he was completely outclassed.  He talked a lot leading up to the fight, which some guys do for confidence, but this clearly irked Jacobs.  No contest. 

12 rounds to 0

Talking before fights is not for confidence. It’s for viewers. Money.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: B. McBannerson on November 12, 2017, 10:46:50 AM
Talking before fights is not for confidence. It’s for viewers. Money.

If you have a big following and it is on PPV, yes.  This fight wasn't on PPV and he doesn't have a big following. He's trying to get there.

Article on last night's fight.   He took Jacobs the distance which no one had done before sans Jacobs' two losses.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/11/12/16639034/jacobs-vs-arias-results-daniel-jacobs-dominates-in-return-to-hbo
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Benny B on November 13, 2017, 09:48:01 AM
I plan to check out the whole fight as soon as it goes up on on HBO Go, but I saw some of the highlights.  Arias seemed to land some killer punches, including the one just before his knockdown in the 11th. 

On that note.... perhaps Piper or someone can explain how essentially pushing someone who's off-balance to the ground (yet doesn't hit the ground) qualifies as a knockdown... I don't know most of the rules, but I've always understood that a knockdown has to come from the "intensity" and "effect" of the punch, not simply the force (i.e. motion/direction) of the punch.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 13, 2017, 10:53:28 AM
I plan to check out the whole fight as soon as it goes up on on HBO Go, but I saw some of the highlights.  Arias seemed to land some killer punches, including the one just before his knockdown in the 11th. 

On that note.... perhaps Piper or someone can explain how essentially pushing someone who's off-balance to the ground (yet doesn't hit the ground) qualifies as a knockdown... I don't know most of the rules, but I've always understood that a knockdown has to come from the "intensity" and "effect" of the punch, not simply the force (i.e. motion/direction) of the punch.

It shouldn’t have been ruled a knock down. If you catch and opponent and the ref feels that punch contributed to you putting a knee/glove/whole body down on the canvas then it’s a knock down. This is because a lot of boxing is also timing so if I catch somebody with a solid jab while they moving backwards then they fall I knocked them down no matter that it was a simple jab or not.
Title: Re: Former Marquette Student Boxing Saturday
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 13, 2017, 01:01:35 PM
This is one of the more confusing things about boxing, there’s too many belts. So he’s the WBC USNBC welterweight champion. Essentially the equivalent of being the British welterweight champion. That doesn’t equate to a world title belt, it makes no sense because you’d think that if an American welterweight is the world title holder he’d hold the USNBC belt as well but that’s not what happens with a million belts out there. Jimmy Williams is old but should crack the top 10 before all is said and done

Thanks for the explanation, BB.