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Title: Transfer
Post by: Marquette4life on September 13, 2017, 07:53:19 PM
Obviously wojo and his guys wouldn't be going after grimes so hard if he wasn't that confident someone was leaving besides rowsey after this year. Any ideas who you think that could be?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: MU82 on September 13, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Not obvious at all.

Maybe somebody gets "encouraged" to transfer only if we get Grimes, eh?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 13, 2017, 07:57:30 PM
Obviously wojo and his guys wouldn't be going after grimes so hard if he wasn't that confident someone was leaving besides rowsey after this year. Any ideas who you think that could be?

I wouldn't say he's confident right now that someone is leaving - but if Grimes comes either someone will see the writing on the wall or Wojo will read it for him.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: esotericmindguy on September 13, 2017, 08:26:59 PM
When's the last year someone hasn't left?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: tower912 on September 13, 2017, 08:35:18 PM
MU wins the championship, half the team leaves early.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 13, 2017, 08:39:59 PM
To date there has been 849 D1 transfers (including maybe 20ish guys who transferred from D2 or lower to D1).

There are 351 teams in Division 1.

That's an average of 2-3 transfers per team.

This also doesn't include players who decide to go pro, leave for personal reasons, or have season ending injuries....though it does include walk ons who don't take up scholarships.

You don't have to have to know that a specific player is going to leave to recruit as if a player is going to leave.

ABR
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Herman Cain on September 13, 2017, 09:19:51 PM
My guess would be that Harry Froling may be considering going pro in Australia. First, He had a previous relationship with one of the feeder teams to their NBL Pro League. Second, before he came to MU he was considering his pro options. Third, the work he has done getting in shape makes him more valuable over there. Fourth, the NBL put in a new salary structure that gives some priority to Australians and he can make a low 6 figure salary up front. Fifth if he does well here ,and does well there in that league ,he can still have a good pathway to NBA.

I am not saying Froling is going pro, but looking at our roster, he would be one of the players that has alternatives that are worth considering and make sense.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: MomofMUltiples on September 13, 2017, 10:01:41 PM
Don't see why Harry would transfer just to give us half a season of play.  Fortunately, your guesses are usually incorrect.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: brewcity77 on September 13, 2017, 10:06:24 PM
My guess would be that Harry Froling may be considering going pro in Australia. First, He had a previous relationship with one of the feeder teams to their NBL Pro League. Second, before he came to MU he was considering his pro options. Third, the work he has done getting in shape makes him more valuable over there. Fourth, the NBL put in a new salary structure that gives some priority to Australians and he can make a low 6 figure salary up front. Fifth if he does well here ,and does well there in that league ,he can still have a good pathway to NBA.

Pretty sure Froling wants to take a crack at the NBA before he settles for the NBL.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: DCHoopster on September 14, 2017, 08:56:22 AM
I asked one of the players about this, and he stated that it seems one or two kids leave MU for one reason or another every year and it happens at all schools
around the country.  If they get Grimes, there will be a player leaving, simple as that.  To say who, right now is ridiculous.  Play it out.  5 star recruit would give MU
a great chance to win the Big East and move forward in the NCAA tournament.  Wojo has a lot to sell right now.  Lets see if he gets him on campus.  Rather see him
come to game, a big game.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Loose Cannon on September 14, 2017, 10:12:24 AM
My guess would be that Harry Froling may be considering going pro in Australia. First, He had a previous relationship with one of the feeder teams to their NBL Pro League. Second, before he came to MU he was considering his pro options. Third, the work he has done getting in shape makes him more valuable over there. Fourth, the NBL put in a new salary structure that gives some priority to Australians and he can make a low 6 figure salary up front. Fifth if he does well here ,and does well there in that league ,he can still have a good pathway to NBA.

I am not saying Froling is going pro, but looking at our roster, he would be one of the players that has alternatives that are worth considering and make sense.

Yep, if I remember there was talk that his Sister might be going back soon.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on September 14, 2017, 10:32:21 AM
These things work themselves out.  At this time last year, who would have predicted Carter and Cohen transfer at semester?  I could think of plausible hypothetical scenarios for just about everyone on the roster that would lead to them leaving.  But it would only be baseless speculation.  So let's see if we're fortunate enough to land Grimes and see how things play out.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Bocephys on September 14, 2017, 11:09:58 AM
These things work themselves out.  At this time last year, who would have predicted Carter and Cohen transfer at semester?  I could think of plausible hypothetical scenarios for just about everyone on the roster that would lead to them leaving.  But it would only be baseless speculation.  So let's see if we're fortunate enough to land Grimes and see how things play out.

I really don't think we should wait.  If we cut everyone now, we can sell Grimes on truly being the only guy here next year!  No other team can offer that experience.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: jsglow on September 14, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
Not that the discussion isn't interesting so no put down intended but it's waaaay too early to try to worry about it.  If we're lucky enough to get Grimes, things will settle out.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Galway Eagle on September 14, 2017, 12:09:24 PM
These things work themselves out.  At this time last year, who would have predicted Carter and Cohen transfer at semester?  I could think of plausible hypothetical scenarios for just about everyone on the roster that would lead to them leaving.  But it would only be baseless speculation.  So let's see if we're fortunate enough to land Grimes and see how things play out.

Just out of curiosity what's the plausible scenario for sam?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: TedBaxter on September 14, 2017, 12:30:20 PM
A player could pay his own way for a year and there is at least 1 family who wouldn't have to think twice about that amount of money. Not saying it would be an option.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on September 14, 2017, 12:38:32 PM
Just out of curiosity what's the plausible scenario for sam?
Sam is fooled by Buzz's charade and mistakenly shows up in Blacksburg to play thinking Marquette has relocated there.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: bilsu on September 14, 2017, 12:57:37 PM
Transfers are usually the players, who do not get to play as much as they thought they were going to. Once we hit the Big East season we will be able to see who is keeping the bench warm.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on September 14, 2017, 12:59:14 PM
Just out of curiosity what's the plausible scenario for sam?

I said just about anyone on the roster, meaning almost but not quite everyone.  Sam would be one of the 2 or 3 I can't think of a plausible scenario.  The most plausible scenarios are one or more bench players leaving for more playing time.  Who that would be remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Earl Tatum on September 14, 2017, 01:16:54 PM
Cheatham.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Jockey on September 14, 2017, 06:16:18 PM
Obviously wojo and his guys wouldn't be going after grimes so hard if he wasn't that confident someone was leaving besides rowsey after this year. Any ideas who you think that could be?

The vast majority of transfers are guys who are in over their heads at high D1 schools, so look to the bottom of the roster.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Dawson Rental on September 14, 2017, 06:34:37 PM
Obviously wojo and his guys wouldn't be going after grimes so hard if he wasn't that confident someone was leaving besides rowsey after this year. Any ideas who you think that could be?

Hey, Hey!  Let's get so excited about possibly getting a player that we start to spend time throwing current players under the bus!!!

You're a prince.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Marquette2022 on September 14, 2017, 11:33:11 PM
I'm sorry. I really don't understand the point of trying to speculate this. We don't know anything unless someone has been having lunch with wojo everyday now and hes giving out some information. We have our roster right now. Enjoy it. Enjoy having everyone on it, so when the time comes that someone does transfer you can say you enjoyed having him as a part of the program.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Newsdreams on September 15, 2017, 09:02:55 AM
Could there be a possibility of a grad transfer?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 15, 2017, 09:06:09 AM
Could there be a possibility of a grad transfer?

Unlikely, only juniors are Cheatham and Heldt. Anim and Morrow would also be finishing their 3rd year. I'm not aware of any player on track to graduate in 3 years.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Newsdreams on September 15, 2017, 09:17:15 AM
Unlikely, only juniors are Cheatham and Heldt. Anim and Morrow would also be finishing their 3rd year. I'm not aware of any player on track to graduate in 3 years.
That is what I thought. Could Anim maybe taken enough credits plus summer to be able to do it?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 15, 2017, 09:27:48 AM
5 years ago half of the board would be apoplectic about the possibility of over signing - we've come a long way!
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on September 15, 2017, 09:35:46 AM
5 years ago half of the board would be apoplectic about the possibility of over signing - we've come a long way!
While true, 5 years ago it would have been for a Mbao, McMorrow, or Rosoboro level player, not a 5*, so apples and oranges to a degree
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on September 15, 2017, 09:40:32 AM
M2N?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Bocephys on September 15, 2017, 09:49:50 AM
While true, 5 years ago it would have been for a Mbao, McMorrow, or Rosoboro level player, not a 5*, so apples and oranges to a degree

That's just rationalization on our collective parts.  The act is the same, it's either ethical or not.  The ends shouldn't justify the means in this case.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Benny B on September 15, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
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Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Newsdreams on September 15, 2017, 11:03:39 AM

4ever must be involved somehow
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: muwarrior69 on September 15, 2017, 12:10:06 PM


Hmm....I guess we have some under 14 year olds on this site after all.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 15, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
While true, 5 years ago it would have been for a Mbao, McMorrow, or Rosoboro level player, not a 5*, so apples and oranges to a degree

Somebody wasn't paying attention in Philosophy class!
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 15, 2017, 12:17:56 PM
Furst, I got wey bedder taste dan dat and woodant be witin 2 miles of her. Secondly, doubt she'd get a rise from dat action, ai na?
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on September 15, 2017, 12:41:13 PM
Somebody wasn't paying attention in Philosophy class!
But I was in Psychology class
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: naginiF on September 15, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
Furst, I got wey bedder taste dan dat and woodant be witin 2 miles of her. Secondly, doubt she'd get a rise from dat action, ai na?
So tired of these old stereotypes:  just because someone is emotional, reactionary and less qualified for a position we use female adjectives to label them.  The president is all of these things and many many more, but clearly he's male.  I don't blame you for not wanting to get within 2 miles of him though.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Jockey on September 17, 2017, 11:01:46 PM
So tired of these old stereotypes:  just because someone is emotional, reactionary and less qualified for a position we use female adjectives to label them.  The president is all of these things and many many more, but clearly he's male.  I don't blame you for not wanting to get within 2 miles of him though.

We have a couple guys here who can't make it through the day without disparaging women.

Only a guess, but I'd bet in real life, no women would want to get within 2 miles of them.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: GooooMarquette on September 18, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
Somebody wasn't paying attention in Philosophy class!

My philosophy was to think independently....
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 18, 2017, 09:07:32 AM
My philosophy was to think independently....

It was a joke about "situation ethics" - I actually took that class at MU.
Title: Re: Transfer
Post by: wadesworld on September 18, 2017, 01:37:41 PM
To flip this discussion to the other side, Wojo has been pretty successful in landing high impact transfers both in the graduate transfer and traditional transfer.  Rowsey, Froling, Marrow, Carlino, and Reinhardt, plus Walter helping to land us a one and done freshman.

Can't wait to bring Kostas in!