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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: SaveOD238 on August 18, 2017, 01:49:15 PM
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https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/18/16165584/coach-k-duke-blue-devils-marvin-bagley-one-done
This article from the Ringer is predicting that Coach K will be out at Duke within the next five years and speculates a little on his replacements. One of the key points is that before K adopted the one-and-done model from Calipari about 4-5 years ago, it was pretty clear that Wojo was the succession plan, but that now recruiting guru Jeff Capel might be the front-runner.
Thoughts?
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Whatever. 5 years is a very long time.
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Here we go.......
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Stevens. Brad Stevens.
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Stevens. Brad Stevens.
Why would he leave the NBA?
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Hes still got at least five surgeries to go!
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Stevens. Brad Stevens.
He was mentioned in the article, because "every coaching search article has to mention him." I'd be shocked to see him go to Duke.
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https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/18/16165584/coach-k-duke-blue-devils-marvin-bagley-one-done
This article from the Ringer is predicting that Coach K will be out at Duke within the next five years and speculates a little on his replacements. One of the key points is that before K adopted the one-and-done model from Calipari about 4-5 years ago, it was pretty clear that Wojo was the succession plan, but that now recruiting guru Jeff Capel might be the front-runner.
Thoughts?
My only thought is that Wojo is our coach and I'm glad.
Five years from now, thanks mostly to Wojo, we might be the superior program!
(Then again, we might not be but we'll still be kickin' arse!)
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Wait a minute, a 70 year old man might not be at his job in 5 years? That's insane.
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Wojo will only coach at Duke if he gets Herro to uncommit from UW and come to MU as well as having the biggest necks in the NCAA. Also a major key in Wojo going to Duke will be whether or not he is able to put recruit Wisconsin for Wisconsin players.
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Wait a minute, a 70 year old man might not be at his job in 5 years? That's insane.
Thankfully not every 70 yr old man has remotely close to 5 yrs left in his job.
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Why would he leave the NBA?
Why would he turn down Duke?
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Why would he turn down Duke?
Because it's not the NBA.
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Because it's not the NBA.
In addition, there are wide-spread reports that he never liked recruiting, the NBA pays more, coaching at the highest level, and as iconic as Duke might be, the Boston Celtics are about 10,000 times more so. Plus, no connections to Duke, K, or anything to do with that school.
Really, the only reason he was ever rumored as a possible Duke candidate is because he's clean-cut and white.
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In addition, there are wide-spread reports that he never liked recruiting, the NBA pays more, coaching at the highest level, and as iconic as Duke might be, the Boston Celtics are about 10,000 times more so. Plus, no connections to Duke, K, or anything to do with that school.
Really, the only reason he was ever rumored as a possible Duke candidate is because he's clean-cut and white.
Uh-uh ... you did NOT say that!
(Even if every word is true. Or at least true-ish!)
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If Duke wants Wojo in 5 years, we will have had a helluva fun 5 years.
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In addition, there are wide-spread reports that he never liked recruiting, the NBA pays more, coaching at the highest level, and as iconic as Duke might be, the Boston Celtics are about 10,000 times more so. Plus, no connections to Duke, K, or anything to do with that school.
Really, the only reason he was ever rumored as a possible Duke candidate is because he's clean-cut and white.
Yet the rumored front runner to take over is...African American.
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He was mentioned in the article, because "every coaching search article has to mention him." I'd be shocked to see him go to Duke.
Yeah, why would he leave what is being done at the Celtics. A major NBA team ready to get back to the finals.
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If Coach K retires, I can promise you this about Duke:
1) Their search will be national.
2) Nobody who has a strong track record will be ruled out.
3) If Wojo is a leading candidate, we will have won at least one more national title for Marquette.
4) At this level, Duke has learned from a number of other schools who hired former assistants who looked good on paper but could not measure up. UCLA, North Carolina, us all stand out here.
5) You heard it here first: Coach Wojo is here for a long, long time to come!
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Yet the rumored front runner to take over is...African American.
And in that article, they essentially dismiss Stevens in a throwaway comment. I'm saying that's the reason he's been rumored to that job for years, because of perceptions people have had since the days when Laettner and Hurley were seen as the face of the program.
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If Coach K retires, I can promise you this about Duke:
1) Their search will be national.
2) Nobody who has a strong track record will be ruled out.
3) If Wojo is a leading candidate, we will have won at least one more national title for Marquette.
4) At this level, Duke has learned from a number of other schools who hired former assistants who looked good on paper but could not measure up. UCLA, North Carolina, us all stand out here.
5) You heard it here first: Coach Wojo is here for a long, long time to come!
#3 just isn't true. Wojo certainly could be a leading candidate without winning a NC at MU.
#5. I've said before, there will come a coach at MU who realizes the special opportunity and honor it is to coach at MU. I am starting to believe that is Wojo.
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If Duke wants Wojo in 5 years, we will have had a helluva fun 5 years.
Exactly right. Occam's Razor.
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Yes, Duke, because of Coach K, has a tremendous reputation for basketball. Duke, by many ratings systems, is also a Top 10 university with about 14,800 students.
Marquette likewise has a great basketball tradition - not as successful as Duke's, but it is a basketball school. Marquette ranks in the 80s of top universities. Not bad. Top 100 universities against 1000s is pretty good.
Size-wise, Marquette has about 12,000 students. So..... Wojo is used to the size of the university compared with Duke, and Marquette has a pretty good reputation for quality and tradition. These are things that could make him more comfortable at Marquette.
Then again, who knows. The coaching biz is tough to call.
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If Coach K retires, I can promise you this about Duke:
3) If Wojo is a leading candidate, we will have won at least one more national title for Marquette.
I suspect most, if not all, of the leading candidates for the Duke job will not have won a national title.
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I just don't think you will see a bunch of high-level coaches who are successful in their current situations to line up to replace a legend.
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C'mon, replacing a legend worked so well for..... ummmmmm.........
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I just don't think you will see a bunch of high-level coaches who are successful in their current situations to line up to replace a legend.
Sultan, not sure I agree with this. It's Duke man.
I think you would see someone who consistently recruits well, has an outstanding coaching record and can win at the highest levels of the game.
What about Buzz? LOL
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C'mon, replacing a legend worked so well for..... ummmmmm.........
Utah St
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Stew!
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Utah St
Indeed it hasn't...
Tim Duryea has been under .500 since taking over two years ago. It's hard filling ole Stew's shoes...
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C'mon, replacing a legend worked so well for..... ummmmmm.........
North Carolina did great replacing Dean Smith.
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North Carolina did great replacing Dean Smith.
Roy Williams was the third coach after Smith you know...
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Roy Williams was the third coach after Smith you know...
I'm not talking about Roy.
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Roy Williams was the third coach after Smith you know...
Dean's assistant Bill Gutheridge did well as a place taker leading UNC to 2 Final 4s in his three seasons. But former Tarheel player Matt Doherty was a disaster.
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It will be interesting to see where programs like Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Louisville and Michigan State go when their iconic head coaches decide to step down. Each coach has their tree, but time will tell if they keep these jobs "in-house" or decide to hire from outside it. No doubt that they each want to keep their relationships and legacies with each coach intact, and that each head coach would want to see an assistant/former assistant get the gig.
If I had to predict, I would guess that these are the head coaches of each program in five years:
Duke: Jeff Capel
UNC: Gregg Marshall
Syracuse: Richard Pitino
Louisville: Mick Cronin
Michigan State: Dane Fife
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Crean sucks
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Crean sucks
think ya need a new sctick .....?
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It will be interesting to see where programs like Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Louisville and Michigan State go when their iconic head coaches decide to step down. Each coach has their tree, but time will tell if they keep these jobs "in-house" or decide to hire from outside it. No doubt that they each want to keep their relationships and legacies with each coach intact, and that each head coach would want to see an assistant/former assistant get the gig.
If I had to predict, I would guess that these are the head coaches of each program in five years:
Duke: Jeff Capel
UNC: Gregg Marshall
Syracuse: Richard Pitino
Louisville: Mick Cronin
Michigan State: Dane Fife
It is interesting to think about that's for sure. If I'm a dukie and Capel is the next coach I would find that hire very underwhelming. Same with Pitino at Cuse who I consider an average coach at best, but I think the Orange will have a tougher time finding an elite coach than any of the other programs listed.
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Dean's assistant Bill Gutheridge did well as a place taker leading UNC to 2 Final 4s in his three seasons. But former Tarheel player Matt Doherty was a disaster.
His recruits won a title though.
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I'd put decent money on Chris Mack being Louisville's next coach
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It will be interesting to see where programs like Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Louisville and Michigan State go when their iconic head coaches decide to step down. Each coach has their tree, but time will tell if they keep these jobs "in-house" or decide to hire from outside it. No doubt that they each want to keep their relationships and legacies with each coach intact, and that each head coach would want to see an assistant/former assistant get the gig.
If I had to predict, I would guess that these are the head coaches of each program in five years:
Duke: Jeff Capel
UNC: Gregg Marshall
Syracuse: Richard Pitino
Louisville: Mick Cronin
Michigan State: Dane Fife
UNC's next head coach will be Hubert Davis. Very little chance UNC goes outside of the UNC family. Especially for a guy like Marshall.
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I just don't think you will see a bunch of high-level coaches who are successful in their current situations to line up to replace a legend.
Like top-tier athletes, high-level coaches have a lot of confidence in themselves. They don't sit around thinking about what they can't do. They think about what they can do.
While there probably are a few who wouldn't want to follow a legend, plenty are perfectly comfortable doing so and certainly would love a shot at Duke, with its incredible resources and commitment to basketball.
I mean, Pitino didn't say, "I've been a pretty good coach but I don't want to follow Denny Crum."
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Like top-tier athletes, high-level coaches have a lot of confidence in themselves. They don't sit around thinking about what they can't do. They think about what they can do.
While there probably are a few who wouldn't want to follow a legend, plenty are perfectly comfortable doing so and certainly would love a shot at Duke, with its incredible resources and commitment to basketball.
I mean, Pitino didn't say, "I've been a pretty good coach but I don't want to follow Denny Crum."
Crum had a poor final 5 years at Lousville. Don't think Rick was sweating anything about Crum.
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Crum had a poor final 5 years at Lousville. Don't think Rick was sweating anything about Crum.
Fair enough. But you know what I meant.
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Fair enough. But you know what I meant.
I do. But, there was no heat as Crum was pushed out as he stayed too long.