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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Ben Golds Five on July 06, 2017, 07:28:03 PM
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Dwight Buycks was outstanding in an 83-81 championship-clinching win over the Pistons on Thursday, scoring 28 points with five rebounds, six assists, three steals and two 3-pointers in 40 minutes.
The Mavs needed overtime to get the Orlando Pro Summer League victory. Buycks has been Mr. Summer League at times and it even earned him some money on the Raptors a few years ago, but Buycks hasn't been in the NBA since 2015. He'll likely get a camp deal and could crack a roster at age 28.
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https://twitter.com/BuycksWorld13/status/21971100196
@BuycksWorld13 23 Aug 2010
bout to Handle these bOyz rough on the sticks nohomo
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I watched some of his games, he looks real steady and could make a roster as a back-up PG!
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HE nocken 'em dead two, ai na?
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IS there a chance he doesn't participate in TBT?
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IS there a chance he doesn't participate in TBT?
Oh yeah
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I have been saying since last year's TBT I'd give Buycks a shot if I were the Bucks. I'd take him over Delly if I pay him a under a million compared to Delly's 9.
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https://youtu.be/wVRm39K-EKI
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I have been saying since last year's TBT I'd give Buycks a shot if I were the Bucks. I'd take him over Delly if I pay him a under a million compared to Delly's 9.
If you paid Dwight under a million you'd be violating the CBA.
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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/883334647802994692 (https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/883334647802994692)
Sources: Knicks have expressed interest in signing Dwight Buycks. Buycks impressed NYK in SL, where he averaged 17.8 PPG & 4.2 APG for DAL.
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Definitely put out there by his agent. Same thing happened last year. Think he either gets a guaranteed contract before training camp starts or he's off to a foreign land to get paid. Not taking the Vander G-League MVP route. Not sure what the book is on him, maybe he doesn't shoot well enough from that spot. .504efg and .540ts% in summer league play, but only 7-24 from three.
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Definitely put out there by his agent. Same thing happened last year. Think he either gets a guaranteed contract before training camp starts or he's off to a foreign land to get paid. Not taking the Vander G-League MVP route. Not sure what the book is on him, maybe he doesn't shoot well enough from that spot. .504efg and .540ts% in summer league play, but only 7-24 from three.
He's also 28. Not exactly a huge upside, but not enough NBA experience to be the steady veteran hand off the bench.
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Definitely put out there by his agent. Same thing happened last year. Think he either gets a guaranteed contract before training camp starts or he's off to a foreign land to get paid. Not taking the Vander G-League MVP route. Not sure what the book is on him, maybe he doesn't shoot well enough from that spot. .504efg and .540ts% in summer league play, but only 7-24 from three.
Agreed. If I'm Dwight, I'd only consider a guaranteed contract. He'll make bank overseas.
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Hopefully Vander takes some notes from Buycks, who seems to be doing things right. Vander has about 5 years left to make the type of money in Europe that could support him for the rest of his life.
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How would the new D-league call-up spots possibly affect Buycks & Vander's decision making? Might that be a better option than overseas now? Brings the risk/reward of being a borderline NBA player more in balance?
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How would the new D-league call-up spots possibly affect Buycks & Vander's decision making? Might that be a better option than overseas now? Brings the risk/reward of being a borderline NBA player more in balance?
Neither qualify for these spots as Each is beyond the 3 year experience threshold.
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Neither qualify for these spots as Each is beyond the 3 year experience threshold.
interesting. didn't know that aspect thanks
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Neither qualify for these spots as Each is beyond the 3 year experience threshold.
Good info. Thanks.
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Neither qualify for these spots as Each is beyond the 3 year experience threshold.
age discrimination? i'm sure they've got that covered as it's too obvious
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age discrimination? i'm sure they've got that covered as it's too obvious
Not an age clause, heyna
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Part of the CBA as well.
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Hopefully Vander takes some notes from Buycks, who seems to be doing things right. Vander has about 5 years left to make the type of money in Europe that could support him for the rest of his life.
What kind of salary would Blue make overseas?
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Dwight Buycks was outstanding in an 83-81 championship-clinching win over the Pistons on Thursday, scoring 28 points with five rebounds, six assists, three steals and two 3-pointers in 40 minutes.
The Mavs needed overtime to get the Orlando Pro Summer League victory. Buycks has been Mr. Summer League at times and it even earned him some money on the Raptors a few years ago, but Buycks hasn't been in the NBA since 2015. He'll likely get a camp deal and could crack a roster at age 28.
MUFINY?
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My thoughts as well.
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What kind of salary would Blue make overseas?
Most likey Euro, Lira, Yuan, or Shekel.
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Is he gonna play in TBT??
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https://twitter.com/hoopsrumors/status/902675178999701504
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https://twitter.com/hoopsrumors/status/902675178999701504
Two former Warriors on one team! I hope they can carve out some playing time.
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Interesting if true. Bradley and Reggie Jackson are the probable starters in the Piston backcourt. There is an opportunity to provide depth.
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http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2017/08/29/detroit-pistons-dwight-buycks/614780001/
Hope that Dwight can make the team. It would be great for both Dwight and MU.
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http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2017/08/29/detroit-pistons-dwight-buycks/614780001/
Hope that Dwight can make the team. It would be great for both Dwight and MU.
It's a two-way contract. He can only be on the Pistons for up to 45 days.
BTW, we were wrong about Vander's eligibility for a two-way deal. He could have signed a two year deal, but I think the deal he signed was better.
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Two former Warriors on one team! I hope they can carve out some playing time.
Who is the other?
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Who is the other?
Henry.
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Henry.
Oh yeah forgot about him. Clearly made a big impact on my MUHoops memory haha
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Two former Warriors on one team! I hope they can carve out some playing time.
Could be quite likely, though it might be in Grand Rapids rather than Detroit. :-\
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Could be quite likely, though it might be in Grand Rapids rather than Detroit. :-\
Still getting paid.
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The two way deal is a good thing for Dwight. It means he made the team as one of the 16th and 17th players on the roster. It is better than the training camp deal that Vander got because the Pistons have something invested in Dwight success for a full year.
Granted there are some limitations of how much he will be able to play in the NBA versus G League. However, there are provisions that if they like him after he exhausted the maximum days they upgrade it to a full NBA contract.
Dwight is likely to have some very good games where he scores in flurries and makes some nice steals. I believe he will make the most of this opportunity.
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The two way deal is a good thing for Dwight. It means he made the team as one of the 16th and 17th players on the roster. It is better than the training camp deal that Vander got because the Pistons have something invested in Dwight success for a full year.
Granted there are some limitations of how much he will be able to play in the NBA versus G League. However, there are provisions that if they like him after he exhausted the maximum days they upgrade it to a full NBA contract.
Dwight is likely to have some very good games where he scores in flurries and makes some nice steals. I believe he will make the most of this opportunity.
Vander got a $50,000 bonus, which means that if he spends zero time in the NBA this seasons and goes back to the G-League, he will earn the same as a two-way player who spends his entire season in the G-League. And he also doesn't have a cap on the number of days he can be on an NBA roster.
And Vander retains the flexibility to be signed off a G-League roster by another NBA team.
Here is an article explaining why the two-way deal isn't necessarily a good one.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/2-way-contract-details-spell-advantages-nba-teams-prospects/
The only thing Vander is risking are the days that he *could* be on an NBA roster. Yes, and that could be as much as about $140k, but it also could be $0.
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Vander got a $50,000 bonus, which means that if he spends zero time in the NBA this seasons and goes back to the G-League, he will earn the same as a two-way player who spends his entire season in the G-League. And he also doesn't have a cap on the number of days he can be on an NBA roster.
And Vander retains the flexibility to be signed off a G-League roster by another NBA team.
Here is an article explaining why the two-way deal isn't necessarily a good one.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/2-way-contract-details-spell-advantages-nba-teams-prospects/
The only thing Vander is risking are the days that he *could* be on an NBA roster. Yes, and that could be as much as about $140k, but it also could be $0.
In theory you are correct the economics of the two way deal are roughly the same and the logistics are in the favor of the team . So by not taking the two way, In fact Vander could actually make the 15th spot on the roster.
However, My concern for Vander is if the Lakers go another way in training camp, pick someone else for the 15th spot and give their remaining two way to another player, and then Vander goes another whole year without getting called up. So it may be in Vanders interest to secure a two way deal; with the knowledge he will likely get some games in with the parent team. The Lakers are going to pick their second two way deal as training camp progresses.
The other notable thing about the current situation is that the Lakers are looking to offload some contract dollars to free up space for free agents next year. One name that has been bandied about is Jordan Clarkson. Clarkson has a big dollar contrast, he is the same age as Vander and is not materially different as a player. If Vander can get some decent time with the parent club , and demonstrate he is indeed a Clarkson equivalent, the Lakers may be inclined to move Clarkson and his $11 million a year contract to replace with Vander at 1 million and now that gives them more funds to throw at the Big money guys next summer.
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Good post with some good points.
You should try more like this.
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So it may be in Vanders interest to secure a two way deal; with the knowledge I will likely get
When you get that knowledge, please share.
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When you get that knowledge, please share.
Correction noted.