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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: jsglow on May 30, 2017, 12:54:31 PM

Title: promotions
Post by: jsglow on May 30, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
Just reported that Johnson and Nelson promoted to Associate Head Coach.
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: Herman Cain on May 30, 2017, 01:02:28 PM
Just reported that Johnson and Nelson promoted to Associate Head Coach.
These guys are doing a great job for us.
 
 
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: wadesworld on May 30, 2017, 01:33:47 PM
These guys are doing a great job for us.
 
 

Presutti, Stan, and Brett promoted this month.  Wojo extended next month, hey?
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on May 30, 2017, 04:41:10 PM
Stan's the recruiter, Nelson's the shooting coach? If so, both putting in great work
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: Jay Bee on May 30, 2017, 04:43:15 PM
Stan's the recruiter, Nelson's the shooting coach? If so, both putting in great work

Nelson heavily involved in recruiting as well
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on May 30, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
Nelson heavily involved in recruiting as well

Cool good to know

Do I have it directionally right with the strong suits/focuses though? Obviously all do a bit of everything. Just an assumption I've always had, wondering if it's even close to right
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: Jay Bee on May 30, 2017, 06:13:53 PM
Cool good to know

Do I have it directionally right with the strong suits/focuses though? Obviously all do a bit of everything. Just an assumption I've always had, wondering if it's even close to right

I can say I've seen all on the road during evaluation periods. Stan and Brett more than Chris & Wojo, but certainly see them all out. (And before them, Phelps, Buzz, Autry, etc, etc... eval periods are condensed.. need to be multiple places at the same time).. I think communication wise, we've seen a lot of Stan & Nelson...
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 30, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
Dude, ya weren't playin' tennis in da French Open by chance, were ya, hey?
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: StillAWarrior on May 31, 2017, 01:45:10 PM
Just reported that Johnson and Nelson promoted to Associate Head Coach.

Honest question:  what does this title even mean at this point?  It's becoming more and more common.  For years, it seemed to designate a head coach in waiting, but wasn't used all that much.  Then, it seemed to be used to identify a long-tenured and highly regarded assistant.  Then, it seemed to be used to designate the most senior assistant coach.  At least that's my impression of the title.  Now, Marquette has two on staff.

Is there any specific meaning to the title?  Does it vary from program to program?  Are there other programs with two Associate Head Coaches?
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: The Lens on May 31, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Honest question:  what does this title even mean at this point?  It's becoming more and more common.  For years, it seemed to designate a head coach in waiting, but wasn't used all that much.  Then, it seemed to be used to identify a long-tenured and highly regarded assistant.  Then, it seemed to be used to designate the most senior assistant coach.  At least that's my impression of the title.  Now, Marquette has two on staff.

Is there any specific meaning to the title?  Does it vary from program to program?  Are there other programs with two Associate Head Coaches?

It might help that assistant look better in the eyes of an AD as he applies for a job.  And ore importantly to Wojo...it shows recruits that when Stan and Brett show up at their games that a top dog from MU is there.  Almost like they're cloning Wojo. 
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: StillAWarrior on May 31, 2017, 02:41:37 PM
It might help that assistant look better in the eyes of an AD as he applies for a job.  And ore importantly to Wojo...it shows recruits that when Stan and Brett show up at their games that a top dog from MU is there.  Almost like they're cloning Wojo.

Yeah, that makes some sense...for now.  It just seems to me that a few years ago when the AHC title was a little less common, it had a little more cachet (for both recruits and for hiring ADs).  How many of the coaches on staff are actually allowed to go out on the road and recruit kids?  I know there are limitations, but I don't remember what they are.  With the proliferation of the AHC title, pretty soon all the recruiters at Lake Wobegon University will be top dog.
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 31, 2017, 08:05:50 PM
Yeah, that makes some sense...for now.  It just seems to me that a few years ago when the AHC title was a little less common, it had a little more cachet (for both recruits and for hiring ADs).  How many of the coaches on staff are actually allowed to go out on the road and recruit kids?  I know there are limitations, but I don't remember what they are.  With the proliferation of the AHC title, pretty soon all the recruiters at Lake Wobegon University will be top dog.

Yeah, it's proliferating and the original limited intent (this guy will be HC when I retire) has morphed.  I suspect it might have changed because once one or two places named AHCs, a couple of others thought that those guys might have a recruiting advantage so they named AHCs, and so on.

Which probably means that the perception may have gone from "you have a recruiting advantage if you name an AHC" to "you have a recruiting disadvantage if you don't."
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: Marcus92 on June 02, 2017, 08:42:04 AM
An interesting article on what college basketball assistant coaches are paid at Michigan St. and other national powers:

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/08/michigan_state_basketball_assi.html (http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/08/michigan_state_basketball_assi.html)

At Marquette, I suspect the "Associate Head Coach" title means both added responsibilities (in recruiting, practice or game preparation, for example) and more money. More success at MU means coaches like Stan and Brett will get more looks from other schools.
Title: Re: promotions
Post by: GGGG on June 02, 2017, 08:57:57 AM
An interesting article on what college basketball assistant coaches are paid at Michigan St. and other national powers:

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/08/michigan_state_basketball_assi.html (http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2016/08/michigan_state_basketball_assi.html)

At Marquette, I suspect the "Associate Head Coach" title means both added responsibilities (in recruiting, practice or game preparation, for example) and more money. More success at MU means coaches like Stan and Brett will get more looks from other schools.


And when they leave, the opportunity looks better.  Shows MU takes care of its own.