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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: muguru on May 10, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/05/10/seton-hall-doesnt-expect-expect-angel-delgado-return/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/05/10/seton-hall-doesnt-expect-expect-angel-delgado-return/)
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The article is not quite as unequivocal as the title of this thread.
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Hope he doesn't get sold a bill of goods . Woukd be better to stay in school and keep developing his skills.
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I for one, think he's making a great choice! Great for MU! :)
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I for one, think he's making a great choice! Great for MU! :)
+1.
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Oh ... dear ... I would be so, so sad to see him go.
Oh ... please ... Angel, don't go.
How convincing was that?
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He's old as dirt and the NBA isn't all that impressed with his numbers against kids one to three years younger then him.
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He's old as dirt and the NBA isn't all that impressed with his numbers against kids one to three years younger then him.
Well, that answers my question. It actually, it also answers the question of why he would be anxious to leave, as well.
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Hope he's studying his Italian, aina?
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Hope he's studying his Italian, right?
Actually, if he studied period he might be able to grad transfer and I'd bet a number of top teams would be calling him right now.
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Actually, if he studied period he might be able to grad transfer and I'd bet a number of top teams would be calling him right now.
So college kids who don't graduate in 3 years "don't study period?"
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“I think Seton Hall’s coach is doing a really great job. And with me or without me, I think they will be really good.”
I like how this quote makes it look like he doesn't know who the coach is :)
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So college kids who don't graduate in 3 years "don't study period?"
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“I think Seton Hall’s coach is doing a really great job. And with me or without me, I think they will be really good.”
I like how this quote makes it look like he doesn't know who the coach is :)
Ha I thought the exact same thing!
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So college kids who don't graduate in 3 years "don't study period?"
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He's old as dirt and the NBA isn't all that impressed with his numbers against kids one to three years younger then him.
Well, that answers my question. It actually, it also answers the question of why he would be anxious to leave, as well.
I think this about captures it. He's an old school low post player in a league that doesn't particularly value that any more, he dominates physically against less strong players but won't be particularly imposing in the NBA at 6'10" 240, and he's already 22. Great college player that really carried that team for stretches last year, but his stock is as high as its going to get (even if he's only a fringey second round guy).
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I agree that Delgado is ready to get paid to play, and there is nothing at all wrong with that.
However, if he thinks that is in the NBA next hear, then Angels, we have heard, are high.
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Just saw Delgado is returning to SHU>(per @angelius45)
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muguru = lies
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Good news for the Big East
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/22/angel-delgado-return-seton-hall-exhales/101599592/
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muguru = lies
#FAKENEWS
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Good news for the Big East
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/22/angel-delgado-return-seton-hall-exhales/101599592/ (http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/22/angel-delgado-return-seton-hall-exhales/101599592/)
One of the best rebounders in college basketball. Unfortunately, the rest of his game is nowhere near elite level. Good but not great close to the basket (54.3% from 2-point range last season), turnover prone (19.7% TORate) and not a credible threat outside the post (0-3 from 3-point range in three seasons). Also, he's 51.3% from the line for his college career — not a good sign of shooting potential.
Most troubling (at least for NBA scouts), Angel hasn't shown much if any improvement year over year. He's pretty much the same player he was as a freshman, only 3 years older.
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Good news for the Big East
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/22/angel-delgado-return-seton-hall-exhales/101599592/
Makes Archie's non-con schedule a little more difficult. I still have residual disdain for IU.
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One of the best rebounders in college basketball. Unfortunately, the rest of his game is nowhere near elite level. Good but not great close to the basket (54.3% from 2-point range last season), turnover prone (19.7% TORate) and not a credible threat outside the post (0-3 from 3-point range in three seasons). Also, he's 51.3% from the line for his college career — not a good sign of shooting potential.
Most troubling (at least for NBA scouts), Angel hasn't shown much if any improvement year over year. He's pretty much the same player he was as a freshman, only 3 years older.
He also can't jump well, though he has a great nose for the ball. Also rather aged for the NBA. He would be 23 shortly after the upcoming NBA season starts. Good for SHU, but he sure gives MU fits.
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Hope he doesn't get sold a bill of goods . Woukd be better to stay in school and keep developing his skills.
? You develop far faster if you don't worry about college
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muguru's source? MUFINY.
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muguru's source? MUFINY.
I gave the link..at the time, he was thought to be gone. Kid made a HORRIBLE decision coming back...he'll be 24 when he graduates and he better hope he doesn't get hurt.
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I gave the link..at the time, he was thought to be gone. Kid made a HORRIBLE decision coming back...he'll be 24 when he graduates and he better hope he doesn't get hurt.
No. You made the title that was false. And he won't be 24 when he graduates. That's also a lie.
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There's a difference between a false statement and a lie.
A lie is a false statement made with deliberate attempt to deceive. Angel Delgado will turn 23 this November. Without knowing muguru's intent, saying he'll be 24 when he graduates is simply a false statement.
It's also a huge assumption to say he made a horrible decision. By all accounts, Delgado fully considered his options, saying: "It's very important to my family and me that I finish what I started. This was a difficult decision that took time and patience. Coming back just feels right." That sounds like a mature, responsible approach. It's his decision. No one else's.
http://www.nj.com/setonhall/index.ssf/2017/05/seton_hall_star_big_man_angel_delgado_returning_fo.html (http://www.nj.com/setonhall/index.ssf/2017/05/seton_hall_star_big_man_angel_delgado_returning_fo.html)
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I gave the link..at the time, he was thought to be gone. Kid made a HORRIBLE decision coming back...he'll be 24 when he graduates and he better hope he doesn't get hurt.
Nowhere in your posted article does he say anything definitive like your title implies. And upon reading the full article, you would never get the vibe of "he was thought to be gone."
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Splitting hairs mighty fine. Big picture, a Marquette nemesis is returning. Beating up muguru serves no purpose. Just a sign of boredom.
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Splitting hairs might fine. Big picture, a Marquette nemesis is returning. Beating up muguru serves no purpose. Just a sign of boredom.
Just let me have my bored fun
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“I think Seton Hall’s coach is doing a really great job. And with me or without me, I think they will be really good.”
I like how this quote makes it look like he doesn't know who the coach is :)
Regarding his decision to return, Delgado said, "I also want to thank the Seton Hall coach for all his/her advice. I wouldn't be where I am today without him/her."
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Good news for the Big East
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2017/05/22/angel-delgado-return-seton-hall-exhales/101599592/
Meh. I wish he had left.
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When guru says "HORRIBLE decision" he mostly means for Marquette. Pretty sure he could not care less how it impacts Delgado personally, he just wants Marquette to be to the Big East what Gonzaga is to the WCC and anything that impedes that from happening is HORRIBLE.
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Having great players and great teams in the Big East is a good thing for Marquette. Just a few reasons why:
1. High-profile players get talked about for conference and national awards (i.e. all-conference, conference player of the year, All-American), increasing exposure and ratings for the Big East.
2. When a player like Angel Delgado stays for his senior year, it makes his team better — boosting strength of schedule and RPI. Those are key factors that the NCAA tournament selection committee looks at.
3. Beating a great team with great players is ever-so satisfying. Need I remind posters of the euphoria that came with knocking off #1 Villanova?
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Having great players and great teams in the Big East is a good thing for Marquette. Just a few reasons why:
1. High-profile players get talked about for conference and national awards (i.e. all-conference, conference player of the year, All-American), increasing exposure and ratings for the Big East.
2. When a player like Angel Delgado stays for his senior year, it makes his team better — boosting strength of schedule and RPI. Those are key factors that the NCAA tournament selection committee looks at.
3. Beating a great team with great players is ever-so satisfying. Need I remind posters of the euphoria that came with knocking off #1 Villanova?
Suspect that most of us would agree. MU just needs to its part.
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Suspect that most of us would agree. MU just needs to its part.
A more succinct way of saying what I was about to say. All those nice things about the BE need, eventually, to translate into the occasional banner for MU. Took a nice step last year, but there are schools for which high-profile BE successes have not been helpful.
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I am hopeful for the day when we no longer cheer for our conference mates, in order to legitimize our conference.
I get that it has been necessary to some extent in the genesis of the 'new' conference. I hope we get to that place where we hate conference foes rather than applaud them. Seems now we are still trying to prove our collective worthiness. In the near future, I hope it's understood.
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I am hopeful for the day when we no longer cheer for our conference mates, in order to legitimize our conference.
I get that it has been necessary to some extent in the genesis of the 'new' conference. I hope we get to that place where we hate conference foes rather than applaud them. Seems now we are still trying to prove our collective worthiness. In the near future, I hope it's understood.
If we keep getting the number of invites to the dance that we're getting The Big East will be fine.
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I am hopeful for the day when we no longer cheer for our conference mates, in order to legitimize our conference.
I cheered for Big East schools in the old league during non-con, and did the same for C-USA teams before. For me, I don't see that ever changing, no matter how good (or bad) we are.
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Delgado and SH are in our conf.
I too cheer for our conference mates in non con games.
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Bluiett staying at Xavier withdraws from draft
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/867158517576155136