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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 24, 2017, 02:55:38 PM
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Fill out application
Care to dive into some more specifics?
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Don't show employers your post history.
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Delete your Facebook account.
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Sign up with Manpower and Robert Half for temp work while you apply for fulltime stuff.
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Friend all prospective hiring managers on FB and like all photos over the last 2 years.
But seriously, agree with the manpower suggestions to fill the gap, but leverage any past headhunters that you can. Their business is built on getting people into jobs with the hopes that you can return the favor with free referrals.
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Lots of people will talk about "networking" but as a 22-ish year old, that's an awfully abstract concept. So do this:
*Choose one or a few industries you're interested in
*Find out which friends, family, friends-of-friends, etc. work in those industries and ask the person to coffee (mention the person you know in common if not directly)
*Separately, find out which MU-ers work in those industries, look up their profiles at their company, introduce yourself in email and ask them to coffee
*Whether you talk on the phone for 5 minutes or get offered a job, always, always, ALWAYS write a thank you note. Email suffices.
*Stay in touch with as many of those people as possible, things will break eventually if not right away
Take risks and screw Manpower. Go tend bar at a nice restaurant/bar when you're not pounding the pavement. You'll be just as likely to meet the right folks and you'll have way more fun.
Finally, feel free to PM me and let me know what you're interested in doing. Happy to put you in touch with folks.
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Chitown,
What's the scoop here? Are you still in school for PT in England?
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Show a lil skin, hey?
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If you are in PT, there is a huge network of MU alum waiting to assist you. See if there is a MU PT group on LinkedIn and WORK IT.
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Ill give everyone the quick breakdown. Getting a Masters in Sports Journalism right now in the UK (havent done PT on like 3 years chick). I have applied to about 10 jobs so far, all of which I met the qualifications for and I have literally only heard back from one of them, a cordial, sorry we have already filled the position.
Few more specific questions:
1. Im applying to jobs in the US, but my American phone SIM card is not active right now. I always say email is the best way to contact me but I was wondering if I should put down my American address instead of my UK one even though I dont have an active American phone number.
2. For references, do I put them on the resume or do I just say references available upon request, I've heard both ways.
3. How do I at least get recruiters to at least reply to me, even if it is a no. So far the jobs that I have applied for dont have a specific person named for the hiring, so I have no idea who to contact to see if my application is still being considered.
Thanks all
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Use the US address. Can you put your parents number down?
Available upon request.
A certain percentage of recruiters just won't reach out to you. Also, they wait till the role is filled and the candidate has started before their applicant tracking system sends you a reject later.
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Ill give everyone the quick breakdown. Getting a Masters in Sports Journalism right now in the UK (havent done PT on like 3 years chick). I have applied to about 10 jobs so far, all of which I met the qualifications for and I have literally only heard back from one of them, a cordial, sorry we have already filled the position.
Few more specific questions:
1. Im applying to jobs in the US, but my American phone SIM card is not active right now. I always say email is the best way to contact me but I was wondering if I should put down my American address instead of my UK one even though I dont have an active American phone number.
2. For references, do I put them on the resume or do I just say references available upon request, I've heard both ways.
3. How do I at least get recruiters to at least reply to me, even if it is a no. So far the jobs that I have applied for dont have a specific person named for the hiring, so I have no idea who to contact to see if my application is still being considered.
Thanks all
My best guess is that recruiters aren't reaching out to you simply because you're out of country and they probably have other applicants that it's easier to work with.
I'd make a note on your resume (preferably near the top so they can't miss it) that you're currently in the UK, and the dates that you'll return. Since the first step is typically a phone interview and you're incapable of doing a phone interview, it may not hurt to put on your resume/application that you'd be willing to do a video interview in place of a phone interview.
Lastly, if the company website or the job posting has a general email box listed, I'd send a quick email to the company reiterating your interest and inquiring on your application status. Most companies still probably won't get back to you, but one or two most likely will.
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But wait, I thought,
Im done with the US, just done. This was just the final straw.
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Few more specific questions:
1. Im applying to jobs in the US, but my American phone SIM card is not active right now. I always say email is the best way to contact me but I was wondering if I should put down my American address instead of my UK one even though I dont have an active American phone number.
3. How do I at least get recruiters to at least reply to me, even if it is a no. So far the jobs that I have applied for dont have a specific person named for the hiring, so I have no idea who to contact to see if my application is still being considered.
1) Maybe register for a Skype account and put that on the top of the resume. But if I'm being perfectly honest, most recruiters will simply move on to the candidates that will be easier to screen.
3) This is the hardest part for me as a recruiter. Ideally, I'd like to be able to correspond with every candidate in a more timely manner. But in my case, I have 40-50 reqs and thousands of applicants between them. It's just not feasible to do, so as chili said, the letter goes out once it's filled. It sucks for the candidate, and I hate that it's gotten so impersonal, but it's the most efficient way.
Depending on the size of the company, you could always try LinkedIn to connect with a recruiter directly.
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Indeed.com is by far the best job search site around. By far. Search for key terms. You can narrow your search by geography. You can also filter out jobs, e.g., -senior to filter out senior jobs, and quotes to search for strings of words, e.g., "sports journalism" for sports and journalism together (in that order).
Also, you should open a LinkedIn account if you haven't already.
Ask PaintTouches if you can write some blog entries for them. Then, you can put this on your resume. It's not ESPN Fox Sports, but it's something. Plus, potential employers can go to the site and actually read your work, e.g., your style, grammar, knowledge, etc.
Finally, I don't know UK academia all that well and don't know journalism at all, but shouldn't you have a director of graduate studies who can help place you into a job? In many fields at many schools, employers will contact the director of graduate studies and ask something along the lines of "do you have any student/recent grad who would be interested in a position at our company doing XZ."
Finally finally, are there headhunters in journalism? You should check. Some time in the not too distant past I was working with a headhunter. Many times they're very specialized, but it's worth checking out.
Finally finally finally, was your bachelors degree in journalism? Were you a good student? If so, you could shoot an e-mail to a professor at MU who remembers you (and likes you, i.e., you got an A in the class) and it could be that they know someone who is looking to hire. Students undervalue the connections that their profs have.
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Ive had some pretty good work experience out here. Worked for NFL UK, Perform Group, and a local football club. We have a platform through our course where we post our articles, and I have video, mobile and radio content ready and even some old broadcast footage of me announcing live games.
Im not saying im a perfect candidate by any means I probably have less experience than a lot of other people, and i'm also probably a little too picky in regards to applying to jobs. But it does seem that applying to US jobs while in the UK is a much bigger obstacle than I anticipated. Guess I'll just keep plugging away at it.
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Out if curiosity, why did you chose a grad program in the U.K. in the first place?
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Out if curiosity, why did you chose a grad program in the U.K. in the first place?
Specific course catered to Sports Journalism (I really wouldnt want to be a journo for anything else), NCTJ certification incase I wanted to stay and work in the UK. I was pretty pissed of at the US at the time, still am to be honest, but I would make so much more money back home.
International experience as well. I probably have one of the broadest scopes of sports knowledge in comparison to other sports journalists. The usual American Sports, college athletics, soccer, rugby, cricket, volleyball etc...
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Cast a wide net, sending out 10 resumes and hearing back from one is what I experienced too, and that was with me calling in asking to speak with hiring managers.
Head hunters are nice, but keep in mind they find people for jobs, not jobs for people so again cast a wide net when working with them.
Best piece of advice though, tailor your resume/cover letter for each job application. Thanks to the digital age both documents filter for keywords before they even hit human hands, try and "game" the system.
Unless it's a critical position that has to be filled immediately expect the entire hiring process to be slow, for most involved in selecting candidates, it's a "when I'm free" task
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Specific course catered to Sports Journalism (I really wouldnt want to be a journo for anything else), NCTJ certification incase I wanted to stay and work in the UK. I was pretty pissed of at the US at the time, still am to be honest, but I would make so much more money back home.
International experience as well. I probably have one of the broadest scopes of sports knowledge in comparison to other sports journalists. The usual American Sports, college athletics, soccer, rugby, cricket, volleyball etc...
If you want to learn some good tips on networking, pm me. It's not that hard, and there are tons of people willing to help you.
Here's a good article on networking. One of the people featured is a good friend. The principles apply to all stages of a career. If you want to be a good journalist, and get the scoop (my second clever pun tonight) you are going to have to learn how to network. http://www.startribune.com/human-connections-give-job-seekers-a-leg-up-beyond-linkedin-and-other-electronic-contacts/408669605/
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One idea. Get a phone that works.
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We do almost all of our intital interviews over Skype, unless the canidate is within a hour of the corporate office.
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One idea. Get a phone that works.
Unfortunately international calling plans are not anywhere near being within my budget. Thank god things like FaceTime, skype and WhatsApp exist.
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Good luck lookin' four gigs in utter countries 'cuz dis ain't yours no moor, ai na? O, and refrain from bashin' our Prez, hey?
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Good luck lookin' four gigs in utter countries 'cuz dis ain't yours no moor, ai na? O, and refrain from bashin' our Prez, hey?
Part of the reason I'm coming back is to fight my ass off and speak out against the fascist government and your fuhrer. Thanks for playing thought.
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But wait, I thought,
Not particularly helpful... but I'm glad you got to feel like a big dude on the internet today.
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Part of the reason I'm coming back is to fight my ass off and speak out against the fascist government and your fuhrer. Thanks for playing thought.
And apparently to get paid to write about sports.
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1) After you apply for a job, search the company's website for an HR contact or search the company on LinkedIn for a contact. Find someone within the company to reach out to, ideally someone within the hiring dept or in HR. Let that person know you applied and see if there is any further info that they need from you.
2) No need to mention references at all on your resume. If companies want references, they'll ask for them.
3) Work LinkedIn. Find contacts from MU, from your hometown, from companies you're interested in, recruiting companies, etc. Most new jobs come as a result of having a connection, not from applying and hoping for the best.
4) Change your address and phone number to one in the US (parents or a sibling). Recruiters/HMs aren't going to pursue a candidate who's 4000 miles away.
5) Make sure all resume bullet points contain an action and the results. (i.e. Created a process that led to 20% profit increase). Spend 50 bucks to have an expert review your resume.
6) Don't give up! Don't get down on yourself!
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Part of the reason I'm coming back is to fight my ass off and speak out against the fascist government and your fuhrer. Thanks for playing thought.
7) Avoid comments like this, which will lead to this thread getting locked, thus preventing you from getting free advice.
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7) Avoid comments like this, which will lead to this thread getting locked, thus preventing you from getting free advice.
Fair, I just get so fed up and I've never been one to sit there and take crap. Get a little to emotional for my own good.
Thanks all for the help by the way, I appreciate it.
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Part of the reason I'm coming back is to fight my ass off and speak out against the fascist government and your fuhrer. Thanks for playing thought.
Also, proofread the hell out of your resume and cover letter.
*Thanks for playing, though.
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7) Avoid comments like this, which will lead to this thread getting locked, thus preventing you from getting free advice.
8) Explain in professional terms why you decided to get your master's overseas. Don't just list the degree because people here will not know about the school or the program. Turn it into a distinguishing characteristic.
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Part of the reason I'm coming back is to fight my ass off and speak out against the fascist government and your fuhrer. Thanks for playing thought.
Godwin's Law going to be added to your resume?
You realize half this country doesn't agree with you, that can be helpful information for anyone seeking a job. Some friendly advice, keep politics out of interviews, on the job, and off this board.
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Godwin's Law going to be added to your resume?
You realize half this country doesn't agree with you, that can be helpful information for anyone seeking a job. Some friendly advice, keep politics out of interviews, on the job, and off this board.
Yea, I hide it pretty well in anything that can be directly related back to me. There are probably 3 people on this board who actually know who I am.
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Part of the reason I'm coming back is to fight my ass off and speak out against the fascist government and your fuhrer. Thanks for playing thought.
You're a youngun, but, don't bite yo nose off ta spite yo face. Like it orr knot, dis chit comes back ta bite yo in da ass, hey?
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6 months of unemployment in 2009 and 12 months of contract work in 2009-2010 has made me a great job hunter.
- Like chili 83 said, use a US address. Use your parents or sibling address and use a Skype telephone number.
- Leave any mention of References off your resume. You can casually mention in a cover letter if you want when you apply for something specific, but this is the 20-teens and companies know they can get contact names from you to e-mail or talk to if they want.
- Set up daily job alerts. Use Indeed.com, Monster.com, Careerbuilder.com, states have their own job sites and also try the National Labor Exchange (http://us.jobs/index.asp) which I've had good luck with. You set your geographical location(s). USAJOBS: (https://www.usajobs.gov/) Set up multiple job title searches also as they yield different results. I recently switched switched jobs 6 months ago. For example I had daily emails for Manufacturing Engineer, Process Engineer, Application Engineer, Sales Engineer and set for different geographic locations.
- Set up LinkedIn and connect with as many friends, past work acquaintances and past supervisors and ask for some recommendations from them and these will be visible to recruiters, etc.
- uncle zeffy is correct - Tailor your resume to the job you apply for and with recruiters you need to have patience with them because they will only really contact you when they are working to fill an opening that you may be a fit for. I would apply with several recruiting agencies so at least your in their system. Often they find you on Indeed or Monster, but they check their database first.
- The first statement on the resume under your address shouldn't be "Seeking a position yada, yada, yada..... instead have a statement about why you're a great fit and a unique candidate for a position.
If I think of anything else I'll post or feel free to IM me. I'm still deluged with calls and emails for jobs.
One final note, years of job searching I've found good recruiters who actually only contacted me when an opening that was a great fit and/or promotion and others who would push, bad fits, job demotions, contract work in place of my salaried position, positions that at best were lateral moves that would more than double my commute and then would still question me when I said, no thanks. I began to ignore calls and email from these certain people because I just couldn't trust anything they offered.
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- The first statement on the resume under your address shouldn't be "Seeking a position yada, yada, yada..... instead have a statement about why you're a great fit and a unique candidate for a position.
Thanks, I'll get right on that one.[/list]
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Before I get to my little bit of advice, first the bad news ...
I don't envy you, Chitown. This is not a good time to be entering journalism ... not if one actually wants a job that pays enough to buy a six-pack per week. Of course, that has been the case for quite some time now.
As the Internet has replaced newspapers, they look less for actual writing/reporting ability and more for people willing to "provide content" for the least amount of money possible. If you are frustrated with the U.S. now, you will be REALLY frustrated "providing content" while working for peanuts as a U.S. journalist. If you can even get one of THOSE jobs.
I knew I was in trouble when my editors started to refer to everything as "content." After about the 10th reference, I said something like: "I am not a 'content provider.' I am a multiple-award-winning journalist, and you're damn lucky to have me." He wasn't impressed.
Here in Charlotte, the Observer was once a highly-regarded newspaper with a large sports staff. They now have one columnist, two Panthers reporters, one Hornets reporter, one prep reporter and handle everything else with freelancers they can pay $75-$100 per article for. Five sportswriters for a major-market metro daily. Wow. The Chicago Tribune has only one sports columnist. The Tribune! Top Internet sites have stopped throwing money around - Yahoo, ESPN, etc, have had massive layoffs and hiring freezes.
Twenty years ago, I used to love encouraging young journalists to make their mark in this business. Now, my advice to a 17-year-old who is considering journalism is: "Run away! Do anything else!"
Having said all that, there ARE opportunities. And while I wouldn't expect to get paid well in 99% of them, maybe you will snag something that will at least be a good starter job for you. You might have to be willing to volunteer, but you are in a position where you need to get your name out there, tangible proof that you are any good.
When I used to work with young sportswriters, one thing I would tell them is to offer something unique in each piece they write. What made this game stand out? Why should a reader want to read THIS article vs. any of the others he/she could choose to read?
Well, I give the same advice to you as a journalist. What about you stands out? Why should an employer consider you (let alone hire you) vs. any of the others he/she could consider?
I wish you good fortune, my friend.
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As an alum, you're generally eligible to use MU career services, and most Jesuit schools let you use theirs as well. I'd guess that could help you with contacts in various cities.
Also, don't assume your anonymity on here or anywhere. There's a lot of information on the internet, and people can piece things together relatively easily.
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Unfortunately, you're going to have to come stateside to get a job stateside, ol' chap.
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Unfortunately, you're going to have to come stateside to get a job stateside, ol' chap.
Ah well, guess I'll just get my old bar tending job back until I find something permanent.
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Also, don't assume your anonymity on here or anywhere. There's a lot of information on the internet, and people can piece things together relatively easily.
Superb advice.
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Join the military and become a public affairs officer. You will learn a lot, including what journalists don't know.
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Also, don't assume your anonymity on here or anywhere. There's a lot of information on the internet, and people can piece things together relatively easily.
Journalists used to be pretty good at stuff like that!
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Yea, I hide it pretty well in anything that can be directly related back to me. There are probably 3 people on this board who actually know who I am.
Chitown why don't you start doing bleacherreport articles or a blog on the side? I know people from journalism who started doing independent food stuff and they got picked up by sponsors.
Also never assume anonymity especially on here. I mean on this board you've specified A) your age B) Your dad's job as a coach. That's not hard then to look at coaches names at whatever that High school is and do a quick Facebook search. Most people on this board are not as anonymous as they think.
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Chitown why don't you start doing bleacherreport articles or a blog on the side? I know people from journalism who started doing independent food stuff and they got picked up by sponsors.
Also never assume anonymity especially on here. I mean on this board you've specified A) your age B) Your dad's job as a coach. That's not hard then to look at coaches names at whatever that High school is and do a quick Facebook search. Most people on this board are not as anonymous as they think.
Chicos was pretty damn easy to figure out via linkedin. It's not that hard.
However, DUNKS remains an international man of mystery.
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Superb(ar) advice.
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Chitown why don't you start doing bleacherreport articles or a blog on the side? I know people from journalism who started doing independent food stuff and they got picked up by sponsors.
Also never assume anonymity especially on here. I mean on this board you've specified A) your age B) Your dad's job as a coach. That's not hard then to look at coaches names at whatever that High school is and do a quick Facebook search. Most people on this board are not as anonymous as they think.
Don't write for Bleacher Report. Don't click on Bleacher Report links. Don't share Bleacher Report links. If you have any regard for the future quality of journalism generally, or their writers well-being specifically, starve Bleacher Report of traffic until it's valueless, closed, and the world metaphorically salted the earth of its business model for all time.
http://deadspin.com/the-top-200-ways-bleacher-report-screwed-me-over-1608499729
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isn't Bleacher Report a recurrent Scoop Meme?
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Join the military and become a public affairs officer. You will learn a lot, including what journalists don't know.
Better yet, the Foreign Service. Not a great time to be at the State Department but it takes a while to go through the process (took me almost 2 years from start to finish, though I ended up not going) and administrations always turn over. They have a public affairs track a j-school student would be perfect for. Plus, you get to live abroad, work out of embassies, and be a part of an elite group of people doing important work. Can't recommend it enough.
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I was thinking more along the lines of the reverse it would be real difficult to find my scoop profile from my other things. Besides my occasional political rants I'm pretty reasonable on here. I'm not too bothered if a few of you geezers have found out who I am. Nothing to hide.
Again, thanks all for the advice already made a few changes to the resume.
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Not particularly helpful... but I'm glad you got to feel like a big dude on the internet today.
Hmm, right back at you. Or do you fancy yourself a defender of the downtrodden or something?
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Don't write for Bleacher Report. Don't click on Bleacher Report links. Don't share Bleacher Report links. If you have any regard for the future quality of journalism generally, or their writers well-being specifically, starve Bleacher Report of traffic until it's valueless, closed, and the world metaphorically salted the earth of its business model for all time.
http://deadspin.com/the-top-200-ways-bleacher-report-screwed-me-over-1608499729
Ok, upon further reading, you may actually be my hero...Those guys are the worst.
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Ok, upon further reading, you may actually be my hero...Those guys are the worst.
BR is a soulless vampire, draining the vitality from the desperate and idealistic masses of people who aspire to be journalists. Screw those guys and I'll take my hypocrisy criticism if need be. (although I don't think advising someone to avoid a bad employer is necessarily without value).
In any respect, well internet-ed today, sir.
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Don't write for Bleacher Report. Don't click on Bleacher Report links. Don't share Bleacher Report links. If you have any regard for the future quality of journalism generally, or their writers well-being specifically, starve Bleacher Report of traffic until it's valueless, closed, and the world metaphorically salted the earth of its business model for all time.
http://deadspin.com/the-top-200-ways-bleacher-report-screwed-me-over-1608499729
Well that or you could actually increase the credibility of their site and accept that it's a massive platform to get your name out there and put some good stuff in your portfolio.
Also the guy in the article says he chose Santa Clara over Marquette and Gonzaga so I don't think he's as big into sports as he claims to be.
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Couldn't hurt to reach out MU alumni in that area. Brad Galli comes to mind, recent grad and would seem to be able to offer tips on the current atmosphere in that field.
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Stalk these wonks down. Half of them post here anyway (or did).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/painttouches.com/2015/06/29/power-rankings-marquette-sports-journalists/amp/
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Part of the reason I'm coming back is to fight my ass off and speak out against the fascist government and your fuhrer. Thanks for playing thought.
Well, if you are serious about starting a career in your heimat you should consider getting a real advanced degree from a top university in the land you so loathe.
I would also strongly recommend that you keep your stridently belligerent political commentary to yourself as most employers not only don't give a sh1t what your view is on politics, religion, race, etc... but, more importantly, don't want an insufferable a$$hole in their workplace.
Frankly, when I interviewed people at PepsiCo and GE Capital I placed more emphasis on the personality and cultural fit of the candidate than I did on their functional expertise.
And I am sincere in saying that your credentials are important. My work was in Strategic Planning and Corporate Development so my employers recruited aggressively from a small number of top MBA programs.
Obviously, as MNCs, we hired staff from all over the world. In Europe, the best credential was an INSEAD MBA but we also hired from Cambridge, London Business School, IE, Warwick, and Esade.
Bottom line is drop the faux outrage at America and get a proper credential that you can lever into a genuine career.
You may be a smart fellow but how you get along with others is far more important if you are sincere about wanting to join a thriving successful team.
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Join the military and become a public affairs officer.
Puhleeze...
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As an alum, you're generally eligible to use MU career services, and most Jesuit schools let you use theirs as well. I'd guess that could help you with contacts in various cities.
Also, don't assume your anonymity on here or anywhere. There's a lot of information on the internet, and people can piece things together relatively easily.
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Damn if that isn't true. Just opened a Vanguard account and they knew more about me than I know about me.
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Keefe and 4ever
It literally is a complete waste of time providing advise to the poster. He is smarter than both of you, don't you know that?
On another note, actually you provided very sound advice and I will share it with my daughter. She graduates in a few weeks and she is putting herself in position for long term success. Looks like work for a couple of years and off to get an MBA.
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Keefe and 4ever
It literally is a complete waste of time providing advise to the poster. He is smarter than both of you, don't you know that?
Actually he has been open about accepting advice throughout this thread.
Again, thanks all for the advice already made a few changes to the resume.
Thanks all for the help by the way, I appreciate it.
Thanks, I'll get right on that one.
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Puhleeze...
I know several journalism types who have done just that. They thrive because they actually know about journalism.
Such folks can even join the soft services like the Air Force or the Navy if they aren't too rah rah about military life ;)
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Wouldn't be scoop without old lingering p*ssing matches that people just cannot let die. Maybe someone could bring up a few posters that aren't around anymore, or an ex-coach, maybe a player who transferred years ago?
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Sultan
He lost me with his reply to 4ever.
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If being a sports journalist doesn't work out, you can always open a Blockbuster Video.
Seriously, I'd consider a profession that's going to still be around in 10 years.
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Sultan
He lost me with his reply to 4ever.
It wasn't a great response. But 4ever provoked it, not the other way around. He came on here asking for help and two separate posters attacked him for his political beliefs. If you're going to call out someone for spitting political venom call out all the people involved.
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It wasn't a great response. But 4ever provoked it, not the other way around. He came on here asking for help and two separate posters attacked him for his political beliefs. If you're going to call out someone for spitting political venom call out all the people involved.
Ok, one of those was me. Got called out already. Shouldn't have done it. Bad me <slaps on wrist>.
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Below is my (probably insane-and certainly trite, likely nonsensical, but somewhat self soothing) rationale.
If you think I am an idiot already or want nothing to do with the ramblings of me or just don't care about more OT gibberish, please do not continue to read.
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Sorry. I didn't do it because of his political beliefs. Usually I can't keep straight who falls where and what not. I remembered his because of all the " the US sucks nonsense, Europe is great" then switching his picture to a flag that has oppressed more people than any other in the history of the world (nor sure if this is numerically or historically accurate, but they are certainly pretty darn close to the top).
*********** OK nonsense over.
This next bit is the important part.
I acted in a way that was well, craptttty. So I am sorry about that.
Chitown, I am sorry. You will get no more crap from me (at least about this, I am open to giving you crap in the future about other, more fun stuff). I did not treat you fairly or with any degree of understanding, I would hope that others have the compassion to treat me better than I treated you, so in the future I will be more judicious in what I post. Please accept this as a formal apology of me being an ass.
In conclusion. Sorry to get off topic. Sorry to be the one that began with the off topic nonsense. Self imposed posting ban for 1 week. Again, sorry (this time to the entire Scoop community)
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If being a sports journalist doesn't work out, you can always open a Blockbuster Video.
Seriously, I'd consider a profession that's going to still be around in 10 years.
Wow, some of you guys are real a$$holes.
To most of you, ChiTown is just a faceless poster on a fansite, but I know him personally, and he is a fine young man. I know that many of you are old and cynical and gave up on your dream career aspirations decades ago, but that does not give you the right to try to destroy someone else's.
None of you have any clue whether or not ChiTown has the talent or drive it takes to make it as a sports journalist, but many of you choose to tell him he will fail. How dare you? Is it that you are jealous that he has the stones to pursue his dream, while you toil away as a corporate drone while wondering what might have been? Would it kill any of you to give this young man some encouragement (and for those of you that have, thanks)?
Now if you will excuse me, I am going to PM ChiTown with my own advice. And maybe some of you should meditate a little on why you would act so hateful towards a young person who only wanted a little jobseeking help from his fellow Warriors.
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Yo Chitown,
Why not try to parlay your knowledge of American sports into a job in Europe, assuming you haven't tried already? I would think that someone in Europe who knows basketball, college basketball, football, baseball, etc., would be more valuable there than someone who knows soccer, cricket, rugby, etc., here.
(I'm aware that getting a job as a foreigner is hard in Europe. Very hard. But it's worth trying)
Also, just to be sure, unless you are a distinguished scholar, your CV (resume) should be one page.
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I would still like to re-suggest what Chick recommend a while back...a Scoop board for jobs/networking/career help.
"ScoopedIn"?
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I would still like to re-suggest what Chick recommend a while back...a Scoop board for jobs/networking/career help.
"ScoopedIn"?
+1 on this, there's been two instances I've thought about suggesting that/asking for career advice on here and a job board would be great.
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It wasn't a great response. But 4ever provoked it, not the other way around. He came on here asking for help and two separate posters attacked him for his political beliefs. If you're going to call out someone for spitting political venom call out all the people involved.
Four da record, as ya may recall, da youngun all butt renounced his citizenship once the results of our last presidential election became obvious. He was, and continues to be completely repulsed by our president. Why? Who da fook nos, butt disgusted nun da less.
Reguardless, democracy reigned on his parade. Totally pissed da dude off. Now he kneeds a job. Shazam, may only bee available in da good, ol' USA. Man, I'm ready ta come on hom, get dat gig, and enlighten all of us how fooked up da White House really is. Well, it don't work dat wey. Der are reprocussions four one's actions and eatin' a little chit on dis board is minor compeared ta reel life, ai na?
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Four da record, as ya may recall, da youngun all butt renounced his citizenship once the results of our last presidential election became obvious. He was, and continues to be completely repulsed by our president. Why? Who da fook nos, butt disgusted nun da less.
Reguardless, democracy reigned on his parade. Totally pissed da dude off. Now he kneeds a job. Shazam, may only bee available in da good, ol' USA. Man, I'm ready ta come on hom, get dat gig, and enlighten all of us how fooked up da White House really is. Well, it don't work dat wey. Der are reprocussions four one's actions and eatin' a little chit on dis board is minor compeared ta reel life, ai na?
Young people sometimes act unwise? No kidding.
But what's keefe's and your excuses for being haughty dipsh*ts?
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Wow, some of you guys are real a$$holes.
To most of you, ChiTown is just a faceless poster on a fansite, but I know him personally, and he is a fine young man. I know that many of you are old and cynical and gave up on your dream career aspirations decades ago, but that does not give you the right to try to destroy someone else's.
None of you have any clue whether or not ChiTown has the talent or drive it takes to make it as a sports journalist, but many of you choose to tell him he will fail. How dare you? Is it that you are jealous that he has the stones to pursue his dream, while you toil away as a corporate drone while wondering what might have been? Would it kill any of you to give this young man some encouragement (and for those of you that have, thanks)?
Now if you will excuse me, I am going to PM ChiTown with my own advice. And maybe some of you should meditate a little on why you would act so hateful towards a young person who only wanted a little jobseeking help from his fellow Warriors.
I've actually been impressed with the outpouring of help, encouragement and sound advice for a young man that started the thread with a vague "SOS." And while you know him, you did earlier wonder what happened to his pursuit of PT, which I assume still means physical therapy. Perhaps he should consider falling back on that career for the time being while pursuing his dream.
My impression of ChiTown comes from his posts. You know him, and therefore I'll take your word that he's a fine young man. But my impressions of you are also formed by what you post here. And those posts are typically informative, often clever, and many times thought provoking.
On the other hand, Chitown's are often smug, name calling (go back and look at the number of times he calls other posters "prick"--maybe they deserve it, but it's still name calling, which to me lacks thoughtful retort) and immature. I do wish him well. But does a little ribbing really mean those who did so are mean spirited? Again, I'm impressed with the amount of solid advice he's gotten.
Oh, and I too agree with your idea regarding a job board on Scoop
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But my impressions of you are also formed by what you post here. And those posts are typically informative, often clever, and many times thought provoking.
God help me. C'mon guys, how 'bout a little help here!
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Chitown,
Politics has nothing to do with values.
I work with people with vastly different political views. We get a ton of work done, and are extremely productive. We have great, similar values.
I got lucky and married someone who "tolerates" me. Our political differences couldn't be further apart. I Out kicked my coverage.
By the way, Obama sucked and Trump sucks. Two extremists. There you go mods. Na na nah nah na na :D
High productivity and low values equals poison.
Soooo, the morale of this lesson is to network your a$$ off. Contact Keefe, 'never, and Rocket and ask them who they know. Remember, we are all Warriors.
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I hope Chi lands a great gig and really mean he hits it out of the park. That said, I was raised differently, and do feel older folks have earned a level of respect. I am not at that level, but 4ever and Keefe have earned it. Funny thing is they are not much older than I am, yet I respect their experience and advice.
Will add that Sir falls into the same camp. When Sir speaks I always read closely.
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God help me. C'mon guys, how 'bout a little help here!
I said "typically," not "universally."
And I assume you live your life by the same adage that I do: "A happy wife is a happy life."
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Goose, all I can say is you were raised by one of the best.
"Too Soon The Sun Sets In The West!"
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Sir
I thank the Good Lord everyday for the life I have been given. We both are blessed men. My Dad told me to wear my pajama bottom knees in prayer and I took him seriously.
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Nm
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I hope Chi lands a great gig and really mean he hits it out of the park. That said, I was raised differently, and do feel older folks have earned a level of respect. I am not at that level, but 4ever and Keefe have earned it. Funny thing is they are not much older than I am, yet I respect their experience and advice.
Will add that Sir falls into the same camp. When Sir speaks I always read closely.
I was raised differently too. I was raised to respect people regardless of their age. I was also raised to believe that when I am the older person in the room, I have responsibility to model mature behavior, and to give help and wisdom when asked for it, instead of condescension and scorn.
From what I can tell, Chitown came here asking for help and was very appreciative of the advice given to him. Two decided to, in 4ever's own words, give him sh*t. One of them, Buckchuckler, has since manned up, explained why he said what he said and apologized. I can't read most of what 4ever writes, but I translated it as "screw him, I can say what I want."
Now Chitown didn't respond well. He blew up. Bad moves by both parties. I guess between a 20 something fresh out of college and an old timer with doctorate, I expect more from the latter.
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I know several journalism types who have done just that. They thrive because they actually know about journalism.
Such folks can even join the soft services like the Air Force or the Navy if they aren't too rah rah about military life ;)
Yo, Top!
Not that I would ever dare correct a Shirt but remember that knowing about something is different than being effective at doing something.
And you know and I know that booger eaters don't fare well among snake eaters and we both know that our would-be Damon Runyon has far more snot in his mouth than reptile scales.
And before you go labelling Warthog drivers as cheeseburger eating Pepsi swilling civilians remember that a lot of us are barrel-chested, Ranger-tabbed TACPs who HALO it in at night to hang it all out there deep inside Indian country for our ground pounding brethren in Big Green.
Nothing stains a Haji's Calvins faster than an A 10 rolling in hot with a team lasing their pathway to 72 cherries.
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Young people sometimes act unwise? No kidding.
But what's keefe's and your excuses for being haughty dipsh*ts?
Is it your mundane existence in a life of quiet desperation which causes you to lash out at others as you do with incredible frequency and remarkable predictability?
Life is about choices. Some choose to live on the edge while others write about those who do. And both can be noble outcomes.
But then there are those who stew in their mediocrity, biting back the bitter bile of plodding, dreary monotony. Their lack of distinction and tedious vapid banality chokes out the dreams of youth as they settle into middle age as the waistline swells, hairline recedes, and hope vanishes.
“Day after day he roamed about in the arctic cold, his soul filled full of bitterness and despair. He saw the world of civilization then more plainly than ever he had seen it before; a world in which nothing counted but brutal might, an order devised by those who possessed it for the subjugation of those who did not.” Upton Sinclair
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Keefe
Good stuff, my friend. Really good stuff!!
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Is it your mundane existence in a life of quiet desperation which causes you to lash out at others as you do with incredible frequency and remarkable predictability?
Life is about choices. Some choose to live on the edge while others write about those who do. And both can be noble outcomes.
But then there are those who stew in their mediocrity, biting back the bitter bile of plodding, dreary monotony. Their lack of distinction and tedious vapid banality chokes out the dreams of youth as they settle into middle age as the waistline swells, hairline recedes, and hope vanishes.
I KNEW IT! I knew this would be your response. You are so darn predictable. When called out for acting like a haughty dipsh*t, you double down. You use words that try to make you look intellectually superior and even provide a quote or two. It's so cute!!!
Anyways, I work with adults Chitown's age and slightly younger every day of the week. I have kids the same age. Here is what I know. Many of them are very intelligent, but usually aren't wise. That means they don't always know what they don't know and do and say things that are questionable. I have learned that it is best to show them why their choice wasn't the best, and let their intelligence guide them the rest of the way.
But instead 4ever used the opportunity to "give him sh*t" and you used the opportunity to put him down and call into question the validity of his advanced degree. These are responses more about putting someone in their place versus giving advice.
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Keefe
Good stuff, my friend. Really good stuff!!
Really? You need better role models.
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Nah, knot 'bout givin' chit. Ratther, understandin' dat actions have consequences. Dez are not kidz. Young adults who are 'spected to bee contributin' 'members of society. I'm blessed wit a great memory. I 'member Milwaukee Suburb's response when Trump one. Dis ain't my country no more. Well, man up and deel wit it. Ya get another shot in fore years. In da meentyme, don't bite da hand dat feeds ya, hey?
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Nm
Out of over 21000 Sultan messages my favorite
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Out of over 21000 Sultan messages my favorite
+1
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Nah, knot 'bout givin' chit. Ratther, understandin' dat actions have consequences. Dez are not kidz. Young adults who are 'spected to bee contributin' 'members of society. I'm blessed wit a great memory. I 'member Milwaukee Suburb's response when Trump one. Dis ain't my country no more. Well, man up and deel wit it. Ya get another shot in fore years. In da meentyme, don't bite da hand dat feeds ya, hey?
Huh?
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Huh?
4Never's mouth must be full of Novocain and cotton rolls.
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Sultan
One thing, and maybe only thing, I have learned in life is to identify good character in people. There are many good folks on Scoop and respect each and everyone in different ways. 4ever and Keefe have proven to be men of high character, great love of MU ball and successful men in their fields. Do not consider either one a role model, but proudly consider them friends.
Over the past several years, two guys that have never met me in person have taken the time to help, support and provide advice when requested. To me, those are men of character. May not always agree with them on every post and have pointed that out to them over the years. Best part is that every communication I have had with them, respect was on full display.
If that was your best post in 21k posts to some people on here I think they missed the boat on you. We seldom agree on MU ball, but I think you have contributed a ton of great posts over the 21k posts. Like several others on here before you, I do appreciate your advice. Unfortunately I think I will follow my own thoughts and continue to look forward to communication from my two internet buddies!!!!
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If a person is not a liberal when he is twenty, he has no heart; if he is not a conservative when he is forty, he has no head.
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For young sports journalist hopefuls such as Chitown, ESPN's layoffs are like a great disturbance in the Force.
About 100 people, including dozens of reporters, are expected to be let go. Names are coming out in dribs and drabs, including NFL, NHL and MLB reporters as of right now. All of them have said something along the lines of, "I look forward to the next chapter of my career."
Many of these people are very good and will find other jobs, but those jobs will be lower profile and will not pay as well. And the whole thing creates a domino effect. The ESPN hockey writer gets dumped and lands at XYZ "content provider," which means that provider is not hiring somebody else, and so on and so on. It puts a squeeze on new hires.
I don't mean to be Debbie Downer here, just trying to keep it real.
Chitown, I wish you luck because you are going to need it.
When I graduated MU in 1982, just about nobody in the biz was hiring - actually there was a big recession going on, and there wasn't much hiring in any biz. Through total dumb luck, I was one of three Jour '82 grads to land a full-time job in the profession. Someday, I'll tell you the story. I'd love to say it was because I was highly skilled, but it really was effen luck. I hope you are the recipient of the same!
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TAMU
I agree with your post that the older you get the more responsibility you have to show respect and guidance for the younger crowd. I actually take great pride in my communication with the younger crowd and am routinely asked for advice from many of my kid's friends. That advice ranges from relationships, career and life in general and really one of my favorite things about getting older.
It is funny, but in PM you mentioned that I had it rough on Scoop this year and hoped it did not keep me away from Scoop moving forward. Those words were much appreciated, but shared in private. For whatever reason, this year became the young folks bashing the old folks. I am far too lazy to look back but I would think I was ripped countless times for my thoughts/age. Seems to me there is quite the double standard these days.
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TAMU
I agree with your post that the older you get the more responsibility you have to show respect and guidance for the younger crowd. I actually take great pride in my communication with the younger crowd and am routinely asked for advice from many of my kid's friends. That advice ranges from relationships, career and life in general and really one of my favorite things about getting older.
It is funny, but in PM you mentioned that I had it rough on Scoop this year and hoped it did not keep me away from Scoop moving forward. Those words were much appreciated, but shared in private. For whatever reason, this year became the young folks bashing the old folks. I am far too lazy to look back but I would think I was ripped countless times for my thoughts/age. Seems to me there is quite the double standard these days.
I can't speak for all the young folks but I'd say it's at least in part because we were sick of the constant patronizing and belittling from the older generation as if we don't have a clue about hoops along with the constant perverted and quite frankly disgusting posts, specifically from your two "internet buddies" talking about kids who are the same age as yours half the time.
Maybe it's just me but if I had a kid graduating college and two of my buddies were making sexual comments constantly about girls that kid's age then I'd have to at least second guess some of my own ability to "identify good character" and I think that the younger generation recognized that almost none of the older posters look in the mirror and got sick of it.
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Bagpipingboxer
I think there are several of the younger crowd that know ball quite well and several of the older crowd that could not tell you how far the free line is from the basket. I can only speak for myself, but negative comments I have about knowing basketball is geared to the folks that do not know basketball on here. I could not care less if age 12 or 83. If you do not know ball, I will argue my point. It does make me laugh the number of times I was flat out told to leave the board, shut up or basically called stupid. It might have taken me 8.5 years to graduate MU, but I have pretty good understanding of game.
As for your comment regarding perverted or disgusting posts, as a whole I do not read them or gloss over them. I am here to talk MU ball and ball in general. While I may very well engage in locker room talk with my friends, I do not believe I have never engaged in similar manner on here. I try very hard to know my audience and the older I get, the better I get on knowing my audience.
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Because I'm sure if I provoked and made fun of someone for their personal beliefs in a completely unrelated topic when it was never mentioned you all would be the bastion of morality and not defend yourselves...
Did I fook up and over exaggerate in the response? Yea, sure but I'm a fiery and emotional person who doesn't take crap. It absolutely gets the better of me sometimes but I will never apologize for who I am.
Anyways, thank for the PM Chick, and Sultan and TAMU for having a much cooler head than me and understanding where my generation is coming from.
Anyways back on topic ESPN cuts are scary but I'd rather take this risk instead of getting anywhere near the corporate world, I can't imagine ever seeing myself in the business world. Also got an email today from a sports media company with offices in the U.K. and US. So it's a start.
Peace and love
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Chitown
Good luck in the search. As Sir said on previous post, anyway that I could help anyone find a gig feel free to reach out to me. Actually pisses me off because I tried to get interns from MU in Supply Chain Management and struck out. Had to go to UWM to fill the positions.
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Wow, some of you guys are real a$$holes.
To most of you, ChiTown is just a faceless poster on a fansite, but I know him personally, and he is a fine young man. I know that many of you are old and cynical and gave up on your dream career aspirations decades ago, but that does not give you the right to try to destroy someone else's.
None of you have any clue whether or not ChiTown has the talent or drive it takes to make it as a sports journalist, but many of you choose to tell him he will fail. How dare you? Is it that you are jealous that he has the stones to pursue his dream, while you toil away as a corporate drone while wondering what might have been? Would it kill any of you to give this young man some encouragement (and for those of you that have, thanks)?
Now if you will excuse me, I am going to PM ChiTown with my own advice. And maybe some of you should meditate a little on why you would act so hateful towards a young person who only wanted a little jobseeking help from his fellow Warriors.
Thanks for the rant, Mom.
1.) I'm sure the original poster is a nice guy.
2). Sports journalism is dying. Read MU82's post, Google it, or buy a local newspaper. The best piece of advice you can get is to not board the sinking ship.
3). WarriorChick PM'd you, so I'm sure you're a featured columnist in the Tribune already.
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I don't think it's dying, it's just different and not just because of clickbait. It's multimedia now and that what I really enjoy. I like producing, writing, editing and presenting content. I think the biggest misconceaption people have is that they assume journalism is strictly a written entity. I have no zero interest in writing for a newspaper, but I love producing video content.
It's the technological age, it's almost as quick to produce and publish a video as it is to write an article. Not dying, just different.
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Chitown
Good luck in the search. As Sir said on previous post, anyway that I could help anyone find a gig feel free to reach out to me. Actually pisses me off because I tried to get interns from MU in Supply Chain Management and struck out. Had to go to UWM to fill the positions.
Must not have been looking from 08-12 ;)
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Chitown
Good luck in the search. As Sir said on previous post, anyway that I could help anyone find a gig feel free to reach out to me. Actually pisses me off because I tried to get interns from MU in Supply Chain Management and struck out. Had to go to UWM to fill the positions.
It's a Top 15 program. Were you not offering enough? ;)
I don't know if I could convince her to move to MKE for the summer, but my niece is in the Supply Chain Management program at University of Tennessee (ranked #3). Maybe for next summer....
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Chick
I understand it is well respected company. We have had interns from MU the past few years in advertising/marketing and quickly filled the spots. The response last year was not there and no follow up from the program brass when we requested help. Actually the closet we came was my having an MU Supply Chain student as an Uber driver.
We offered decent pay and probably an interesting resume builder. Our firm helps roughly 25 companies import product from over 75 factories in China and our clients range from $25m -800m in sales. They would have instant exposure to our client base.
UWM was very responsive and provider a list of potential clients.
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I don't think it's dying, it's just different and not just because of clickbait. It's multimedia now and that what I really enjoy. I like producing, writing, editing and presenting content. I think the biggest misconceaption people have is that they assume journalism is strictly a written entity. I have no zero interest in writing for a newspaper, but I love producing video content.
It's the technological age, it's almost as quick to produce and publish a video as it is to write an article. Not dying, just different.
It definitely is evolving. The jobs are condensing and pay is stagnating. If you are good, stick with it long enough, and get a break you can get paid enough to make a living.
The old guard was specialized into one job: writer or producer or audio/video, etc. Now one person has to do the job of 3-4 but for the salary of one.
I know a lot of people, myself included, that left the business (TV) for economic reasons. Some grinded for years before eventually landing a decent paying job. Some stay if they have a spouse making good money.
Expect long hours, odd work schedules, and a mix of enjoyment and frustration. There are two ways to go about a career in this field:
1) Try it out for 5-10 years. Maybe you succeed and keep ascending. But always have a backup plan and exit strategy.
2) Get a real job. Do sports journalism in your free time. Freelance, blog, have your own website. Basically make it a hobby and consider yourself lucky if you can get paid.
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Chick
I understand it is well respected company. We have had interns from MU the past few years in advertising/marketing and quickly filled the spots. The response last year was not there and no follow up from the program brass when we requested help. Actually the closet we came was my having an MU Supply Chain student as an Uber driver.
We offered decent pay and probably an interesting resume builder. Our firm helps roughly 25 companies import product from over 75 factories in China and our clients range from $25m -800m in sales. They would have instant exposure to our client base.
UWM was very responsive and provider a list of potential clients.
Yep. Having my own issues trying to hire an MU accounting intern. I got one response - and tons of resumes from DePaul.
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Man, whatever happened to the "follow your dreams" method of working? It not like I'm being utterly unrealistic trying to become a professional athlete or actor
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Man, whatever happened to the "follow your dreams" method of working? It not like I'm being utterly unrealistic trying to become a professional athlete or actor
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I'd recommend doing it the way that Brian Windhorst did: attend the same high school as the best basketball player in the world; cover him extensively (some might say obsessively); and parlay that into a career.
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Does anybody remember how great Grantland was? I still think there is a market out there for written content.
Or maybe not since Grantland is gone.
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Does anybody remember how great Grantland was? I still think there is a market out there for written content.
Or maybe not since Grantland is gone.
Grantland was phenomenal. Saw what you want about Simmons, but the dude could flat out write and had a great eye for talent.
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Does anybody remember how great Grantland was? I still think there is a market out there for written content.
Or maybe not since Grantland is gone.
Simmons hired basically anyone worth anything from Grantland and they all run the Ringer for him now.
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Does anybody remember how great Grantland was? I still think there is a market out there for written content.
Or maybe not since Grantland is gone.
While it couldn't keep Zach Lowe and David Jacoby (or Wesley Morris for film), see The Ringer.
And ChiTown, though I'm not entirely in a position to lecture, network your ass off. Leverage chick or TAMU or whomever reaches out to the best of your abilities. I graduated from MU in 2015 so I'm assuming we're close to, if not, the same age; but networking was the sole reason I got the job I have now and why there are some exciting opportunities going forward. I have some connections at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel if that helps.
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Sports journalism isn't dying, but the ability of a sports journalist to earn a real living in his job has been seriously eroded. It is the BleacherReportization of the business.
Having said that, Chitown, if you are absolutely committed to entering this cruddy business and if you are realistic about your chances of financial riches, sure, absolutely, follow your dream.
I definitely hope this opportunity you mentioned pans out for you - good luck, and keep us posted!
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Man, whatever happened to the "follow your dreams" method of working? It not like I'm being utterly unrealistic trying to become a professional athlete or actor
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While it couldn't keep Zach Lowe and David Jacoby (or Wesley Morris for film), see The Ringer.
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Chitown
Good luck in the search. As Sir said on previous post, anyway that I could help anyone find a gig feel free to reach out to me. Actually pisses me off because I tried to get interns from MU in Supply Chain Management and struck out. Had to go to UWM to fill the positions.
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm looking for one right now too.
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Great piece on the hard work that it takes to be a sports journalist and what it means to be a true journalist (rather than, say, a Skip Bayless)
http://www.widerightnattylite.com/2017/4/27/15443748/they-just-lost-our-dream-job-thoughts-on-the-espn-layoffs
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Apply with George Soros for a paid protester position in Berkeley. It's where the unemployed twits from ESPN are headed.
God you're unbearable. Any opposing view point from yours is horrible and you insult it. One of the worst posters on this board.
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Great piece on the hard work that it takes to be a sports journalist and what it means to be a true journalist (rather than, say, a Skip Bayless)
http://www.widerightnattylite.com/2017/4/27/15443748/they-just-lost-our-dream-job-thoughts-on-the-espn-layoffs
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Bayless used to be a great reporter. He then realized it was more profitable to be great at being Skip. That's called capitalism.
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Yea, I hide it pretty well in anything that can be directly related back to me. There are probably 3 people on this board who actually know who I am.
That works for you and against you, right? If you are asking people for help, say one of them is able to put a recommendation in for you or get a door opened. People here want to help, but because no one really knows anyone here but makes observations anyway (often unfair ones), you could be hurting yourself. How is someone here to know that hiring you or recommending you to a friend doesn't deliver someone that is a good journalist but slams anyone against your political views as Fuhrer followers? See what I mean?
But I'm merely a geezer and in the working world for a long time, so what do I know.
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I use geezer is a term of endearment.
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I use geezer is a term of endearment.
Eh? I cain't hear ye?
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4Never's mouth must be full of Novocain and cotton rolls.
yeah but when 4ever talks, i always listen. it's entertaining and he makes a good point, imho.
on another note, ummmm, novacaine ain't been used since the 40's-50's. too many allergic reactions, but consolation given as the term novacaine is commonly used as a generic term for lido-mepiva-arti-carbo-xylo-caines. just sayin
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I have been watching this thread and it is interesting in a couple of ways. I think the snowflakes and the geezers need to be a little more thoughtful and less prone to get all wound up. Snowflakes need to know that a little tact is needed and that the world isn't likely to bend to your will. Geezers have to remember that life has a way beating certain behaviors out of you and the "told you so mentality" isn't well received and there for is of little benefit to the conversation. All perceptions?
Good luck with the job search. I would really focus on networking and meeting people even if they can't help you immediately. It pays dividends. Dig a little deeper as to why you like Sports Journalism and maybe those reasons may allow you to cast a wider net and consider other types of positions that will still appeal to you. I don't know if anyone mentioned the software programs that screen resumes, I think it is unfortunately necessary to game these programs to the extent possible. There is a site called "Tag Crowd" that helps visualize phrases in a job description that then helps to taylor your resume to get past the screening software. Maybe some of the recruiter folks here can speak more to the screening software. Like I said good luck, stay positive.
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I have been watching this thread and it is interesting in a couple of ways. I think the snowflakes and the geezers need to be a little more thoughtful and less prone to get all wound up. Snowflakes need to know that a little tact is needed and that the world isn't likely to bend to your will. Geezers have to remember that life has a way beating certain behaviors out of you and the "told you so mentality" isn't well received and there for is of little benefit to the conversation. All perceptions?
Good luck with the job search. I would really focus on networking and meeting people even if they can't help you immediately. It pays dividends. Dig a little deeper as to why you like Sports Journalism and maybe those reasons may allow you to cast a wider net and consider other types of positions that will still appeal to you. I don't know if anyone mentioned the software programs that screen resumes, I think it is unfortunately necessary to game these programs to the extent possible. There is a site called "Tag Crowd" that helps visualize phrases in a job description that then helps to taylor your resume to get past the screening software. Maybe some of the recruiter folks here can speak more to the screening software. Like I said good luck, stay positive.
Spoken like a true sneezer.
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Spoken like a true sneezer.
More like a guy with one foot on the other side, I have shunned labels and achieved Snirvana.....
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I have been watching this thread and it is interesting in a couple of ways. I think the snowflakes and the geezers need to be a little more thoughtful and less prone to get all wound up. Snowflakes need to know that a little tact is needed and that the world isn't likely to bend to your will. Geezers have to remember that life has a way beating certain behaviors out of you and the "told you so mentality" isn't well received and there for is of little benefit to the conversation. All perceptions?
Good luck with the job search. I would really focus on networking and meeting people even if they can't help you immediately. It pays dividends. Dig a little deeper as to why you like Sports Journalism and maybe those reasons may allow you to cast a wider net and consider other types of positions that will still appeal to you. I don't know if anyone mentioned the software programs that screen resumes, I think it is unfortunately necessary to game these programs to the extent possible. There is a site called "Tag Crowd" that helps visualize phrases in a job description that then helps to taylor your resume to get past the screening software. Maybe some of the recruiter folks here can speak more to the screening software. Like I said good luck, stay positive.
That's some good advice right there.
I like you, Manny. You're a good dude.
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I really wasnt being sarcastic. Geezer isnt a phrase i use in a derogatory way. Probably adopted slang terms over here more than I thought I have.
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I really wasnt being sarcastic. Geezer isnt a phrase i use in a derogatory way. Probably adopted slang terms over here more than I thought I have.
When do you sleep? Isn't it past 3:00 am "over there?"
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When do you sleep? Isn't it past 3:00 am "over there?"
Rarely, I don't sleep much to be perfectly honest. Currently got distracted watching the Oilers game. What can I say, I love sports.
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Here is the list
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/these-are-the-10-worst-jobs-of-2017.html
Journalist rated worst job. Broadcaster #2. Firefighter, DJ, taxi driver, others made top 10 worst jobs this year.
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Here is the list
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/these-are-the-10-worst-jobs-of-2017.html
Journalist rated worst job. Broadcaster #2. Firefighter, DJ, taxi driver, others made top 10 worst jobs this year.
Eh, that's fine I'm really not too bothered about what a list says. I know I'm pretty damn good at what I do. I'll find a job somewhere, whether is editing, production, writing or something else along those lines.
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Eh, that's fine I'm really not too bothered about what a list says. I know I'm pretty damn good at what I do. I'll find a job somewhere, whether is editing, production, writing or something else along those lines.
That's the spirit!
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Four da record, as ya may recall, da youngun all butt renounced his citizenship once the results of our last presidential election became obvious. He was, and continues to be completely repulsed by our president. Why? Who da fook nos, butt disgusted nun da less.
Reguardless, democracy reigned on his parade. Totally pissed da dude off. Now he kneeds a job. Shazam, may only bee available in da good, ol' USA. Man, I'm ready ta come on hom, get dat gig, and enlighten all of us how fooked up da White House really is. Well, it don't work dat wey. Der are reprocussions four one's actions and eatin' a little chit on dis board is minor compeared ta reel life, ai na?
I agree with this analysis.