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Title: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: EaglesNest on April 18, 2017, 12:27:17 PM
Will host 1st/2nd round games
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: 🏀 on April 18, 2017, 01:13:20 PM
No regional with a new stadium?
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Oldgym on April 18, 2017, 01:24:53 PM
No regional with a new stadium?

Seriously.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2017, 01:31:39 PM
No regional with a new stadium?

Someone mentioned that Marquette is not interested in hosting a regional.  Less games = less revenue.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: 🏀 on April 18, 2017, 01:56:54 PM
Someone mentioned that Marquette is not interested in hosting a regional.  Less games = less revenue.

Ahhh, that checks out.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: muwarrior69 on April 18, 2017, 02:28:57 PM
Someone mentioned that Marquette is not interested in hosting a regional.  Less games = less revenue.

How much does the host school get?
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: bilsu on April 18, 2017, 03:08:22 PM
Is the new arena big enough to host regional games?
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Ardmore Mug on April 18, 2017, 03:11:03 PM
Yes bilsu, it is big enuf and Wadesworld is also correct.  MU wants a bigger bang for its buck and ll the work it takes, the 1st weekend will have 8 teams and 4 days of games.  more $$$ spent.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Newsdreams on April 18, 2017, 03:17:35 PM
How much does the host school get?
Well I would think has to do more with the bid amount. Regionals you need to bid more, more money up front, less games, and more risk.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Oldgym on April 18, 2017, 03:46:28 PM
So why does any city bid on the regionals then?  KC, Memphis, Indy, Louisville, etc. have all hosted regionals in recent years. Omaha next year, along with much larger cities.  Sounds like rounds 1/2 are much better deal for the host.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2017, 04:13:57 PM
So why does any city bid on the regionals then?  KC, Memphis, Indy, Louisville, etc. have all hosted regionals in recent years. Omaha next year, along with much larger cities.  Sounds like rounds 1/2 are much better deal for the host.

My guess (and that's all this is) is that opening rounds are better for money, regionals are better for marketing. You get more media at a regional and more of a focus on the individual cities.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2017, 04:27:18 PM
My guess (and that's all this is) is that opening rounds are better for money, regionals are better for marketing. You get more media at a regional and more of a focus on the individual cities.

And maybe you can only host each every X amount of years, but both will bring in money so some schools/cities decide it's worth it to host both regionals and first and second rounds while others (Marquette, apparently) decide it's not worth the hassle to host a regional but it is to host the 1st and 2nd round?  I have no idea though.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Newsdreams on April 18, 2017, 04:37:59 PM
Asked Matt if he could find out for scoop
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Newsdreams on April 18, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
Answered but not much substance
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/854449664594243585
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Ardmore Mug on April 18, 2017, 09:18:49 PM
MU did NOT bid for a regional and will NOT.... As I stated previously, They like to host  the first weekend... 8-)
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Oldgym on April 18, 2017, 09:35:12 PM
MU did NOT bid for a regional and will NOT.... As I stated previously, They like to host  the first weekend... 8-)

That much is clear. We're trying to understand why.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: SaveOD238 on April 19, 2017, 08:44:33 AM
That much is clear. We're trying to understand why.

This has been explained several times, but the answer is $$$$$.

There might be more cachet in hosting a regional, but the first round sites have 8 teams and 6 games, whereas the regional sites get 4 teams and only 3 games.  First rounders sell more tickets, more concessions, and more swag than regionals.  It also helps locally, as 8 teams means more out of town travellers spending money on hotels, food, shopping, etc.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Eldon on April 19, 2017, 09:36:41 AM
This will save the Grand Avenue Mall.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Badgerhater on April 19, 2017, 11:11:28 AM
MU and Milwaukee have also gotten pretty good at running an NCAA opening weekend and the NCAA seems to more than happy with hosting in Milwaukee.

Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Oldgym on April 19, 2017, 11:30:51 AM
So to take this to its logical conclusion, suppose Milwaukee had the hotel rooms to support a Final Four.  I don't think we do at the moment, but indulge me.   The powers that be have reason to believe a bid would be seriously considered. 

That's only four teams and three games.  Bid?  Or not?

Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2017, 11:33:37 AM
So to take this to its logical conclusion, suppose Milwaukee had the hotel rooms to support a Final Four.  I don't think we do at the moment, but indulge me.   The powers that be have reason to believe a bid would be seriously considered. 

That's only four teams and three games.  Bid?  Or not?

What stadium would hold it?  Final fours ate played in football stadiums
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: #UnleashSean on April 19, 2017, 11:37:20 AM
What stadium would hold it?  Final fours ate played in football stadiums

Green Bay.

To hell with the battleships and carriers. It's time to play at the frozen tundra.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2017, 11:38:49 AM
Green Bay.

To hell with the battleships and carriers. It's time to play at the frozen tundra.

Everyone would call or the frozen four. Too much potential for brand confusion
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Oldgym on April 19, 2017, 11:46:22 AM
What stadium would hold it?  Final fours ate played in football stadiums

Yeah, you're right. I guess it might be possible to co-opt Miller Park for this purpose if MLB would work around it, but you're right.

Point being, absent some unknown parameter(s), certain cities are opting for less tourism revenue by bidding on - and winning - regional finals.  To me, that's an odd decision.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: #UnleashSean on April 19, 2017, 11:47:15 AM
Everyone would call or the frozen four. Too much potential for brand confusion

Just have the hockey and basketball back to back. Or better yet. Basketball on ice. You heat up the ice cubes. Hot ice.
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: 🏀 on April 19, 2017, 01:01:51 PM
Just have the hockey and basketball back to back. Or better yet. Basketball on ice. You heat up the ice cubes. Hot ice.

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Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Ardmore Mug on April 19, 2017, 01:44:26 PM
BTW   Milw and the new Arena, have put bids in for the NCAA Hockey Frozen Four....
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 20, 2017, 07:08:31 PM
Yeah, you're right. I guess it might be possible to co-opt Miller Park for this purpose if MLB would work around it, but you're right.

Point being, absent some unknown parameter(s), certain cities are opting for less tourism revenue by bidding on - and winning - regional finals.  To me, that's an odd decision.

Besides that pesky fact that Miller Park does not full close and it could be 40 degrees in there. 
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: Oldgym on April 20, 2017, 10:09:30 PM
Besides that pesky fact that Miller Park does not full close and it could be 40 degrees in there.

Huh?
Title: Re: Marquette to host 2022 NCAA Tournament
Post by: EaglesNest on April 20, 2017, 10:37:35 PM
BTW   Milw and the new Arena, have put bids in for the NCAA Hockey Frozen Four....

The Frozen Four sites were announced up until 2022 and Milwaukee wasn't selected