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Title: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: muguru on April 16, 2017, 05:31:51 AM
You may have to click on the photo to enlarge it..But one thing that I noticed was of the top 20 in attendance, MU was 2nd lowest in "pct of capacity" behind only Syracuse. DePaul came in at 101..yet only 26% capacity on average..brutal.

http://d1vision.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/NCAAATTENDANCE.png (http://d1vision.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/NCAAATTENDANCE.png)
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 16, 2017, 05:59:30 AM
You may have to click on the photo to enlarge it..But one thing that I noticed was of the top 20 in attendance, MU was 2nd lowest in "pct of capacity" behind only Syracuse. DePaul came in at 101..yet only 26% capacity on average..brutal.

http://d1vision.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/NCAAATTENDANCE.png (http://d1vision.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/NCAAATTENDANCE.png)

New arena will help the pct to capacity issue.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: MU1980 on April 16, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
New arena will help the pct to capacity issue.

What will be the seating capacity for the new arena.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 16, 2017, 09:16:26 AM
What will be the seating capacity for the new arena.

This story indicates about 16,000 (10,000 lower and 6,000 upper).

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/07/new-milwaukee-bucks-arena-rapidly-taking-shape/98825382/
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Herman Cain on April 16, 2017, 09:34:42 AM
Nebraska coach should be on hot seat. They are 11th in attendance and drawing over  15,000 and exceeding capacity.  They had a losing season and 4 players are transferring.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Newsdreams on April 16, 2017, 11:26:46 AM
Nebraska coach should be on hot seat. They are 11th in attendance and drawing over  15,000 and exceeding capacity.  They had a losing season and 4 players are transferring.
Lol
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Eldon on April 16, 2017, 11:32:48 AM
Creighton holding its own at #5.  Good to see.  I hadn't realized CU basketball was that popular in Omaha.

I wonder how much of a bump joining the BE did for them.

Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Smokin' Jae on April 16, 2017, 11:46:44 AM
Nebraska coach should be on hot seat. They are 11th in attendance and drawing over  15,000 and exceeding capacity.  They had a losing season and 4 players are transferring.
Very good observation dawg. He is in fact on the hot seat, much has been made about it in husker land.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: MUfan12 on April 16, 2017, 01:39:24 PM
This story indicates about 16,000 (10,000 lower and 6,000 upper).

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/07/new-milwaukee-bucks-arena-rapidly-taking-shape/98825382/

Factoring in the suites it will be around 17,500.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Golden Avalanche on April 16, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
Creighton holding its own at #5.  Good to see.  I hadn't realized CU basketball was that popular in Omaha.

I wonder how much of a bump joining the BE did for them.

Jays have had well attended games for 15 years.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 16, 2017, 02:40:12 PM
A slight jump assuredly for Creighton but they been seeling out since Altman was coaching.  Solid team n not awhole lot to do on winter nights in Omaha, a city as big as Milwaukee
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 16, 2017, 02:41:01 PM
I read 17K and change for the new arena
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2017, 04:41:43 PM
Creighton holding its own at #5.  Good to see.  I hadn't realized CU basketball was that popular in Omaha.

I wonder how much of a bump joining the BE did for them.



Nothin' else ta due in Omaha but drink and bang da ol' lady, ai na?
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Herman Cain on April 16, 2017, 06:31:57 PM


Nothin' else ta due in Omaha but drink and bang da ol' lady, ai na?
College World Series and Omaha Zoo. In the fall Nebraska football just down the road in Lincoln.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 16, 2017, 07:02:06 PM
Some people in Omaha have nothing better to do than invest in the stock market.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 16, 2017, 07:11:04 PM


Nothin' else ta due in Omaha but drink and bang da ol' lady, ai na?

That's what I do when I stop by Mequon.  Drink and bang ya ol' lady
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2017, 07:23:59 PM
How is it at Sybaris? Bring yo own Lysol, hey?
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 16, 2017, 08:53:44 PM
College World Series and Omaha Zoo. In the fall Nebraska football just down the road in Lincoln.
OMG! How do these people contain themselves!
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: naginiF on April 17, 2017, 11:30:04 AM
You may have to click on the photo to enlarge it..But one thing that I noticed was of the top 20 in attendance, MU was 2nd lowest in "pct of capacity" behind only Syracuse. DePaul came in at 101..yet only 26% capacity on average..brutal.

http://d1vision.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/NCAAATTENDANCE.png (http://d1vision.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/NCAAATTENDANCE.png)
Aside from the top 5 from 6-20 we are the ONLY school who's average attendance is higher than the undergrad enrollment and, without doing the math, Creighton has to be the only school in the top 20 who's average attendance is greater than 1.5X their undergrad student body.

Being in the top 20 with a student body of 8,500 is pretty damned impressive (btw - Creighton undergrad is 4,200)
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on April 17, 2017, 12:07:38 PM
A slight jump assuredly for Creighton but they been seeling out since Altman was coaching.  Solid team n not awhole lot to do on winter nights in Omaha, a city as big as Milwaukee

It's extremely generous to Omaha to put it on equal footing with Milwaukee.

Milwaukee is the 39th-largest MSA in the United States, in the same company as Nashville, Memphis, and New Orleans.  Omaha is 59th, which puts it alongside Worcester, Mass., and Albuquerque, New Mexico.

The Milwaukee MSA has 1.57 million people. The Omaha MSA has 924,000. Even if the comment is limited to the City limits, Milwaukee still has approximately a third more people than Omaha.

My impression from the few times I have found myself in Omaha was that the City was "A more boring Grand Rapids."
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Herman Cain on April 17, 2017, 10:56:01 PM
It's extremely generous to Omaha to put it on equal footing with Milwaukee.

Milwaukee is the 39th-largest MSA in the United States, in the same company as Nashville, Memphis, and New Orleans.  Omaha is 59th, which puts it alongside Worcester, Mass., and Albuquerque, New Mexico.

The Milwaukee MSA has 1.57 million people. The Omaha MSA has 924,000. Even if the comment is limited to the City limits, Milwaukee still has approximately a third more people than Omaha.

My impression from the few times I have found myself in Omaha was that the City was "A more boring Grand Rapids."
Next time your in Omaha go to a Creighton game they are a lot of fun.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 18, 2017, 08:54:25 AM
Omaha
Somewhere in middle America
Get right to the heart of matters
It's the heart that matters more
I think you'd better turn your ticket in
And get your money right at the door
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 18, 2017, 09:05:42 AM
While Jim wrestles with that alligator let me tell you about our sponsor, Mutual of Omaha

https://www.youtube.com/v/zGMf4QQdI9c
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: bradley center bat on April 23, 2017, 04:24:55 PM
This story indicates about 16,000 (10,000 lower and 6,000 upper).

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/07/new-milwaukee-bucks-arena-rapidly-taking-shape/98825382/
Story is full of it.
Bradley Center has 11,000 upper bowl seats.
New Arena will seats 17,500. About 6,000 in the upper deck.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 23, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
Story is full of it.
Bradley Center has 11,000 upper bowl seats.
New Arena will seats 17,500. About 6,000 in the upper deck.

How many bat colonies?
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: #UnleashSean on April 23, 2017, 11:31:44 PM
How many bat colonies?

One davante running in fear. One Wilson trying to kill the bat's with a towel.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: EaglesNest on April 24, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Story is full of it.
Bradley Center has 11,000 upper bowl seats.
New Arena will seats 17,500. About 6,000 in the upper deck.

Any idea why overall capacity is gonna be the smaller than the Bradley Center? Most NBA arenas hold 20,000+ now
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Herman Cain on April 24, 2017, 06:07:44 PM
Any idea why overall capacity is gonna be the smaller than the Bradley Center? Most NBA arenas hold 20,000+ now
NBA gave specs of what they wanted in terms of overall configuration .
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: EaglesNest on April 24, 2017, 06:51:57 PM
How come the NBA would want an arena basically the size of the Kohl Center.  Confuses me
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: warriorchick on April 24, 2017, 07:09:43 PM
How come the NBA would want an arena basically the size of the Kohl Center.  Confuses me

Methinks they are going for quality over quantity.  How many times have the Bucks sold out the BC?  It makes more sense to spend the money on a nicer, smaller stadium where they can charge more per ticket than a mediocre larger one that always has empty seats.

It's the same reason why Miller Park is significantly smaller than County Stadium.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: B. McBannerson on April 25, 2017, 09:00:35 AM
How come the NBA would want an arena basically the size of the Kohl Center.  Confuses me


Baseball downsized parks over the last 15 to 20 years.  Better experience, site lines, creates a better market for scarcity of tickets.


http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=53766.msg908323#msg908323


Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: muwarrior69 on April 25, 2017, 10:02:15 AM
How come the NBA would want an arena basically the size of the Kohl Center.  Confuses me

Why would anyone want to watch the final four in a football stadium if your seats were in the nosebleed section behind either basket? I would rather watch on TV. At least the students have seats close to the court.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: muwarrior69 on April 25, 2017, 10:07:22 AM

Baseball downsized parks over the last 15 to 20 years.  Better experience, site lines, creates a better market for scarcity of tickets.


http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=53766.msg908323#msg908323

I agree, but in some parks the seats are actually larger thus reducing the amount of seating. The new Yankee stadium could hold about 10k more fans if they had the same seat densions as the old stadium. As Chick stated it was to create a better experience for the fans.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: bradley center bat on April 25, 2017, 10:19:23 AM
Any idea why overall capacity is gonna be the smaller than the Bradley Center? Most NBA arenas hold 20,000+ now
To be picky the only NBA Arena's that seats over 20,000 is the Bulls and Cavs arena. There is about seven in the NBA that seats in the 19,000 range. The Bucks have said most of the ticket money is made in the first 10 to 15 rows for NBA arena's.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: EaglesNest on April 25, 2017, 01:40:18 PM
I was thinking there are a couple other arenas over 20,000 in the NBA. I swear I heard a tv announcer during a Villanova game say that it was a capacity crowd of 21,000.

I was talking with a Bucks ticket rep who told me that he thinks every game in the new arena will be sold out. Not sure how much of this is wishful thinking on his part.

I was hoping for an arena with a capacity between 19,000 and 20,000. Maybe the new arena will have some sort of standing room only spot that can add to the 17,500 on games that are sold out.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 25, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_arenas

Don't know how accurate this is but according to this there are 4 arenas that seat over 20,000 (Bulls, Cavs, Wizards, and 76ers). There are an additional 12 that hold 19,000 or more.

If the new stadium is 17,500 as advertised, it will be the second smallest ahead of only the Pelicans' Smoothie King Center.

The only three stadiums to be built in the past 12 years (Kings, Nets, Magic) are all under 19,000 capacity. The two most recent (Kings and Nets) are the smallest stadiums besides the Pelicans.

Of the eight stadiums to be built in the last 15 years, only one (Hornets) is above 19,000 and it was barely over (19,077).

It seems like the trend in basketball, like other sports, is to start building smaller stadiums. Why waste money on an extra 2,000 to 3,000 seats when you aren't going to be able to fill them 95% of the time? Spend that money on making a nicer stadium an charge a little more per ticket.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: warriorchick on April 25, 2017, 02:14:30 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_arenas



It seems like the trend in basketball, like other sports, is to start building smaller stadiums. Why waste money on an extra 2,000 to 3,000 seats when you aren't going to be able to fill them 95% of the time? Spend that money on making a nicer stadium an charge a little more per ticket.

Couldn't have said it better myself.   8-)
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Herman Cain on April 25, 2017, 02:15:15 PM
I was thinking there are a couple other arenas over 20,000 in the NBA. I swear I heard a tv announcer during a Villanova game say that it was a capacity crowd of 21,000.

I was talking with a Bucks ticket rep who told me that he thinks every game in the new arena will be sold out. Not sure how much of this is wishful thinking on his part.

I was hoping for an arena with a capacity between 19,000 and 20,000. Maybe the new arena will have some sort of standing room only spot that can add to the 17,500 on games that are sold out.
It is very rare that every single seat of a sold out game is actually filled. I think the Fire Marshall has a say on what the standing room can fill. Just a guess , but maybe there may be up to another 500 standing room . I think the new bowl configuration will drive attendance up. Also depending on the game It could be possible that they drape off the upper bowl. I have seen that done in the Barclays Center and Prudential Center, which changes the dynamic of a low actual turnout game . A better environment for the cupcakes is worth something.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 25, 2017, 02:29:09 PM
So Wojo has one last season to coach a game before "the largest crowd in Wisconsin college basketball history". Perhaps MU should theme the last BMOBC home game as a "drink 'em dry" promotion?
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: MUfan12 on April 25, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
I was talking with a Bucks ticket rep who told me that he thinks every game in the new arena will be sold out. Not sure how much of this is wishful thinking on his part.

Maybe the first season, but even then I'd say there's some wishful thinking there.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: jsglow on April 27, 2017, 05:34:34 PM
Interestingly, the Wiki is estimating the new arena at 17,500.  I had always heard it was going to be slightly smaller than the BMO BC.

Here's one thing you can be sure of.  The NBA was fully consulted and gave its blessing.
Title: Re: MU finishes 19th in attendance last year
Post by: bradley center bat on April 29, 2017, 05:23:23 PM
It's been said tons of times by media members that the new downtown arena will be 17,500.