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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: brewcity77 on March 20, 2017, 08:37:00 AM
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I wanted to look at the grad transfer question from a different angle. What is our biggest need for next year if we could add one experienced grad player? Considering Wojo has added two grad transfers in three years and pursued numerous others (Lee, Miller, Gill) I think it's safe to say we'll look to add at least one this summer.
Here's a roster depth projection, obviously there will be positional overlap:
PG Markus Howard (Andrew Rowsey)
SG Duane Wilson (Haanif Cheatham)
SF Sam Hauser (Jamal Cain)
PF Harry Froling (Ike Eke)
C Matt Heldt (Theo John)
I think the four guards are pretty interchangeable. Both Hauser and Cain could flex to the 4, and Froling and Eke (if he doesn't redshirt) could flex to the 5. But we do have a rotation of what looks like 9 competent players. So here's what I think we could use:
Physical combo guard: We could use a bigger guard that can defend, help against the press, and add some scoring. While Howard and Rowsey are capable, neither are true point guards, so having another ball handler with a bit more size could benefit this team.
Slashing wing: As a team, we are terrible at getting to the line. We could use someone who can drive (hopefully with both hands) and get to the line, putting pressure on the defense. This would help by adding scoring in the lane and forcing the defense to not just smother us at the arc.
Strong rebounding big: While our team rebounding worked adequately, we still didn't have one guy who we knew could go get us a possession when we really needed it. It cost us a few games last year and there's really no proven rebounder coming in yet.
What say you?
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Don't forget about Sacar... high hopes for him next year.
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WHERE'S SACAR!!! (All kidding aside, I hope he can help with some physicality.)
I would go with a slashing wing because IMO those types can help with rebounding as well.
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My vote is for a combo guard. I'm hoping Sacar ( ;) ) and Cain can provide that wing ability and I have high hopes for Froling to be that big man we need. I also think that when you have athletic bigs, they can contribute sooner on the defensive end, so I'm hoping that John and/or Eke will be able to at least give us some rebounding and defense in the post.
Watching the trouble we had against the press without Reinhardt, I think we need another guy that can play that role. I also think that we need another guard that can defend, because that isn't really Markus or Rowsey's forte.
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I'll take door number 3. We've got the components for the first two either on or coming to the roster. What we need is a sheriff, ala Ouze and Jon Harris. Clean up the glass, body up players in the paint. If they can shoot the 3, fine I'll take it, but is definitely not a requirement.
My theory is, with that type of player you play Markus, Haanif, Sam, unnamed sheriff, and Froling....that line-up should be able to play competent defense/rebound and the offense should be unreal.
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I wanted to look at the grad transfer question from a different angle. What is our biggest need for next year if we could add one experienced grad player? Considering Wojo has added two grad transfers in three years and pursued numerous others (Lee, Miller, Gill) I think it's safe to say we'll look to add at least one this summer.
Here's a roster depth projection, obviously there will be positional overlap:
PG Markus Howard (Andrew Rowsey)
SG Duane Wilson (Haanif Cheatham)
SF Sam Hauser (Jamal Cain)
PF Harry Froling (Ike Eke)
C Matt Heldt (Theo John)
I think the four guards are pretty interchangeable. Both Hauser and Cain could flex to the 4, and Froling and Eke (if he doesn't redshirt) could flex to the 5. But we do have a rotation of what looks like 9 competent players. So here's what I think we could use:
Physical combo guard: We could use a bigger guard that can defend, help against the press, and add some scoring. While Howard and Rowsey are capable, neither are true point guards, so having another ball handler with a bit more size could benefit this team.
Slashing wing: As a team, we are terrible at getting to the line. We could use someone who can drive (hopefully with both hands) and get to the line, putting pressure on the defense. This would help by adding scoring in the lane and forcing the defense to not just smother us at the arc.
Strong rebounding big: While our team rebounding worked adequately, we still didn't have one guy who we knew could go get us a possession when we really needed it. It cost us a few games last year and there's really no proven rebounder coming in yet.
What say you?
That was my vote
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My vote is for a combo guard. I'm hoping Sacar ( ;) ) and Cain can provide that wing ability and I have high hopes for Froling to be that big man we need. I also think that when you have athletic bigs, they can contribute sooner on the defensive end, so I'm hoping that John and/or Eke will be able to at least give us some rebounding and defense in the post.
Watching the trouble we had against the press without Reinhardt, I think we need another guy that can play that role. I also think that we need another guard that can defend, because that isn't really Markus or Rowsey's forte.
So Geno Thorpe then?
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My vote is for a combo guard. I'm hoping Sacar ( ;) ) and Cain can provide that wing ability and I have high hopes for Froling to be that big man we need. I also think that when you have athletic bigs, they can contribute sooner on the defensive end, so I'm hoping that John and/or Eke will be able to at least give us some rebounding and defense in the post.
Watching the trouble we had against the press without Reinhardt, I think we need another guy that can play that role. I also think that we need another guard that can defend, because that isn't really Markus or Rowsey's forte.
Keep in mind that Markus was a freshmen and like 18 years old or something :P He can develop into a solid defender in the off season.
My thinking is the front court has the most unknowns, where as the back court with Markus/Rowsey/Duane/Haanif/Sacar has plenty of opportunity to improve. So reinforce the front court.
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Best player available. Jeffrey Carroll if he becomes available.
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In order from greatest need to least, rim rocker, pogo stick, sharpshooter. Maximizing our 2nd chance points and limiting opponents should be a central theme. Our defense looked significantly worse than it already did because of 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances on the boards.
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Sacar will be good i think
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We need a 6-9 245 pound pogo stick Warrior mentality guy. The guy who can get those hard fought rebounds and tip ins.
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None of the above.
Switchable lockdown defender. Can guard the opponents best player irregardless of position. Preferably one who can handle the ball, slash to the hoop, and/or rebound at a high level.
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None of the above.
Switchable lockdown defender. Can guard the opponents best player irregardless of position. Preferably one who can handle the ball, slash to the hoop, and/or rebound at a high level.
Who would that be, i agree with you
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D- Point guard.
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D- Point guard.
That's my vote. I was at the Big East Tournament and while I thought how much better Rowsey and Howard would be with a guy who could get into the paint and distribute. Watching South Carolina last night and their 2 Guards going to the basket with authority was impressive. Wasn't really an issue until Carter left. Now I'd hope its a priority.
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If we can't get a physical big PG, i hope wojo could try and recruit one. Can't always ride and die on the 3 ball
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Who would that be, i agree with you
Sounds like Jimmy Butler
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All three...in one player. I can dream right?
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Stretch 4
we replace Jajuan & Fischer with Cain & Theo, need a 3 point threat to replace Katin
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Need quickness at every spot. Dis team is stuck in quiksand, ai na?
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I think we can use all or any of the three choices so end of the day I would take the best available. I personally am hoping for a new sheriff. I hope this sheriff can tutor John and Eke and they can assume that position as sophomores. I think the other needs can be managed by guys already on the roster. Need that mean rebounder and rim protector.
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D- Point guard.
Agree 100%. Howard and Rowsey are both shooting guards in point guard bodies. Despite the highly efficient offense overall, JJJ was the closest thing MU had to a creator this season and the lack of a playmaker played a big part in MU's stretches of ugly offense. To put it in perspective, Traci Carter had more assists (153) in 790 minutes last season than Howard and Rowsey did in a combined 1348 minutes this season (143).
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Agree 100%. Howard and Rowsey are both shooting guards in point guard bodies. Despite the highly efficient offense overall, JJJ was the closest thing MU had to a creator this season and the lack of a playmaker played a big part in MU's stretches of ugly offense. To put it in perspective, Traci Carter had more assists (153) in 790 minutes last season than Howard and Rowsey did in a combined 1348 minutes this season (143).
If we could get a grad transfer or regular big PG we could put Howard at the off guard
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I wanted to look at the grad transfer question from a different angle. What is our biggest need for next year if we could add one experienced grad player? Considering Wojo has added two grad transfers in three years and pursued numerous others (Lee, Miller, Gill) I think it's safe to say we'll look to add at least one this summer.
Here's a roster depth projection, obviously there will be positional overlap:
PG Markus Howard (Andrew Rowsey)
SG Duane Wilson (Haanif Cheatham)
SF Sam Hauser (Jamal Cain)
PF Harry Froling (Ike Eke)
C Matt Heldt (Theo John)
I think the four guards are pretty interchangeable. Both Hauser and Cain could flex to the 4, and Froling and Eke (if he doesn't redshirt) could flex to the 5. But we do have a rotation of what looks like 9 competent players. So here's what I think we could use:
Physical combo guard: We could use a bigger guard that can defend, help against the press, and add some scoring. While Howard and Rowsey are capable, neither are true point guards, so having another ball handler with a bit more size could benefit this team.
Slashing wing: As a team, we are terrible at getting to the line. We could use someone who can drive (hopefully with both hands) and get to the line, putting pressure on the defense. This would help by adding scoring in the lane and forcing the defense to not just smother us at the arc.
Strong rebounding big: While our team rebounding worked adequately, we still didn't have one guy who we knew could go get us a possession when we really needed it. It cost us a few games last year and there's really no proven rebounder coming in yet.
What say you?
Good question, Brew. But I think the answer is easy.
At least half of our loses - probably more - were because we were so bad on defense. We need a defensive player with size and quickness. A Sanogo type who is quick and blocks shots and can cover for mistakes on 'D'.
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Best player available. Jeffrey Carroll if he becomes available.
This.
I am hoping for a classic 6-6 to 6-8 switchable who can play the 3 and 4, and can guard the other teams best player. Dude with a chip on his shoulder, hits a respectable clip from 3, but can also rise up on drives and for rebounds.
There may only be a few names that fit that bill in the grad transfer market, but I am confident Wojo will be hot after them. And this year, he actually has something to sell having put us back in the NCAAs and the core of the team returning.
I think this is the year Wojo gets us a grad transfer GEM.
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None of the above.
Switchable lockdown defender. Can guard the opponents best player irregardless of position. Preferably one who can handle the ball, slash to the hoop, and/or rebound at a high level.
TAMU - any preliminary interesting names that fit this bill?
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Someone with a neck.
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Someone with a neck.
Not just any type of neck, a great neck
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This.
I am hoping for a classic 6-6 to 6-8 switchable who can play the 3 and 4, and can guard the other teams best player. Dude with a chip on his shoulder, hits a respectable clip from 3, but can also rise up on drives and for rebounds.
There may only be a few names that fit that bill in the grad transfer market, but I am confident Wojo will be hot after them. And this year, he actually has something to sell having put us back in the NCAAs and the core of the team returning.
I think this is the year Wojo gets us a grad transfer GEM.
Is he a good defender?
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Is Bo Ellis available?
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TAMU - any preliminary interesting names that fit this bill?
It's early. There are some possibles. Working on an article for PT. Should be out this week
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It's early. There are some possibles. Working on an article for PT. Should be out this week
I know you are. But I want it NOW!
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It's early. There are some possibles. Working on an article for PT. Should be out this week
Interesting to see who you put on there
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Can we get all 3.....Go over the salary cap....and trade for more upgrades at the deadline and still whine that we did not do enough.....
Whoops.....I thought MU had Lebron there for a second.....
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I know you are. But I want it NOW!
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Don't blame me, take it up with Andrei. If he would offer me a competitive salary with benefits I would quit my job and give you up to the minute updates on all things Marquette basketball. But no, Andrei wants to spend that money on his wife and kid or some BS.
You should be thankful for the writing experience. Damn millenials and their greedy needs for "jobs" that "pay actual money."
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Don't blame me, take it up with Andrei. If he would offer me a competitive salary with benefits I would quit my job and give you up to the minute updates on all things Marquette basketball. But no, Andrei wants to spend that money on his wife and kid or some BS.
Favorite thought of the day inspired by this post....imagining Andrei sitting on a pile of cash Scrooge McDuck style plotting his next task for TAMU.
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Don't blame me, take it up with Andrei. If he would offer me a competitive salary with benefits I would quit my job and give you up to the minute updates on all things Marquette basketball. But no, Andrei wants to spend that money on his wife and kid or some BS.
So selfish, Andrei!
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Elijah Brown of New Mexico will grad transfer. 6'4 guard averaging 18.8 ppg. Son of Warriors assistant Mike Brown.
From the west coast, I imagine he'll look for a landing spot out there. A name to watch nonetheless.
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If the question is "need", we don't "need" more guards.
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If the question is "need", we don't "need" more guards.
Well, according to a new thread, Duane just announced he's gonna transfer, so ...
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Well, according to a new thread, Duane just announced he's gonna transfer, so ...
Still don't. We need an actual PF.
Is a bummer though...hoping the Anim redshirt pays off.
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Well, according to a new thread, Duane just announced he's gonna transfer, so ...
Yah. Also one of our better on ball defenders. Gonna need a couple grad transfers. Or a grad transfer, traditional transfer, and a freshman.
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Yah. Also one of our better on ball defenders. Gonna need a couple grad transfers. Or a grad transfer, traditional transfer, and a freshman.
Do we have three schollies to give? Thought it was just 1 before Duane announced.
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Do we have three schollies to give? Thought it was just 1 before Duane announced.
Don't forget Sam going pro ...
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Elijah Brown of New Mexico will grad transfer. 6'4 guard averaging 18.8 ppg. Son of Warriors assistant Mike Brown.
From the west coast, I imagine he'll look for a landing spot out there. A name to watch nonetheless.
He started at Butler. Don't know if a secondary transfer would be precluded by BE rules? He is one of the sons of former Cavaliers HC Mike Brown.
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Do we have three schollies to give? Thought it was just 1 before Duane announced.
It's 3 now, assuming Duane is confirmed. Duane's, plus Sandy and Traci's.
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I wanted to look at the grad transfer question from a different angle. What is our biggest need for next year if we could add one experienced grad player? Considering Wojo has added two grad transfers in three years and pursued numerous others (Lee, Miller, Gill) I think it's safe to say we'll look to add at least one this summer.
Here's a roster depth projection, obviously there will be positional overlap:
PG Markus Howard (Andrew Rowsey)
SG Duane Wilson (Haanif Cheatham)
SF Sam Hauser (Jamal Cain)
PF Harry Froling (Ike Eke)
C Matt Heldt (Theo John)
I think the four guards are pretty interchangeable. Both Hauser and Cain could flex to the 4, and Froling and Eke (if he doesn't redshirt) could flex to the 5. But we do have a rotation of what looks like 9 competent players. So here's what I think we could use:
Physical combo guard: We could use a bigger guard that can defend, help against the press, and add some scoring. While Howard and Rowsey are capable, neither are true point guards, so having another ball handler with a bit more size could benefit this team.
Slashing wing: As a team, we are terrible at getting to the line. We could use someone who can drive (hopefully with both hands) and get to the line, putting pressure on the defense. This would help by adding scoring in the lane and forcing the defense to not just smother us at the arc.
Strong rebounding big: While our team rebounding worked adequately, we still didn't have one guy who we knew could go get us a possession when we really needed it. It cost us a few games last year and there's really no proven rebounder coming in yet.
What say you?
See other Duane posts......need to edit/remove him for roster projection
Add another open spot
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Elijah Brown was recruited in HS by AZ State and none other than Stan Johnson. Just sayin.
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Elijah Brown was recruited in HS by AZ State and none other than Stan Johnson. Just sayin.
That'd be a fantastic start.
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Elijah Brown was recruited in HS by AZ State and none other than Stan Johnson. Just sayin.
Yeah, if he is a Point Guard, and the above is true then the dots are a little more connected for me, especially taken with Duane's announcement.
When SC beat MU and then Duke (Both teams without a true PG) it became a basic position needed to improve our chances advance.
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Still not sure Brown can play here since he was on Butler's roster. Interesting question.
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Played with Katin too in hs.
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Yeah, if he is a Point Guard, and the above is true then the dots are a little more connected for me, especially taken with Duane's announcement.
When SC beat MU and then Duke (Both teams without a true PG) it became a basic position needed to improve our chances advance.
Brown is definitely more the combo guard type. But he does it all. Points, rebounds, assists, gets to the line, steals, the only knock is somewhat low efficiency, but on this team with other scoring options he'd likely get better shots and see his eFG% go up.
Not sure where his defense is. On this team, that's important. But he has the frame and is a coach's son.
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Is Sacar viewed as a 2 or 3? Both Rowsey and Howard are really 1/2's but spending most of the time at the 1. Right now we only have Cheatham as a pure 2.
We either need to move Rowsey/Howard to a pure 2 (and bring in a PG) or bring in a SG. Brown fills an ideal niche as a 2G.
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Brown is definitely more the combo guard type. But he does it all. Points, rebounds, assists, gets to the line, steals, the only knock is somewhat low efficiency, but on this team with other scoring options he'd likely get better shots and see his eFG% go up.
Not sure where his defense is. On this team, that's important. But he has the frame and is a coach's son.
Thanks
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Still not sure Brown can play here since he was on Butler's roster. Interesting question.
Answered it in the recruiting thread. He cannot. No indirect transfers.
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Did Mike Brown coach with Team USA at all? Could he have a relationship with Wojo through that?
ETA: Never mind. He coached the PanAmerican games in 2015 with Tad Boyle and Mark Few. I wonder if Gonzaga would be a possible landing spot.
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Answered it in the recruiting thread. He cannot. No indirect transfers.
Interesting question though.. he signed NLI in April of 2013. Butler being part of new big East talk starred in March, but the new conference wasn't established until July per Wikipedia. So he may have never signed an NLI with a big East team.
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Interesting question though.. he signed NLI in April of 2013. Butler being part of new big East talk starred in March, but the new conference wasn't established until July per Wikipedia. So he may have never signed an NLI with a big East team.
It is an interesting question. I have no idea what the answer is.
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Another somewhat interesting name is Evan Maxwell.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3143994/evan-maxwell (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3143994/evan-maxwell)
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article123997574.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article123997574.html)
Not 100% sure what he status is, as he spent his first two years of college at Liberty, then transferred to Kansas before the 16-17 season, and left the program midseason. Not sure if that means he would be eligible right away, or if he'd have to sit another half season, or full season.
6-10 center. Averaged 10 and 5 as a sophomore at Liberty. Not sure how much he fits our needs, but with 3 available scholarships now, we definitely have space for a front court player, as well as a guard/wing grad transfer.
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Another somewhat interesting name is Evan Maxwell.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3143994/evan-maxwell (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3143994/evan-maxwell)
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article123997574.html (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article123997574.html)
Not 100% sure what he status is, as he spent his first two years of college at Liberty, then transferred to Kansas before the 16-17 season, and left the program midseason. Not sure if that means he would be eligible right away, or if he'd have to sit another half season, or full season.
6-10 center. Averaged 10 and 5 as a sophomore at Liberty. Not sure how much he fits our needs, but with 3 available scholarships now, we definitely have space for a front court player, as well as a guard/wing grad transfer.
Seems like a decent player. I really hope we can get a wing slasher type of player
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Seems like a decent player. I really hope we can get a wing slasher type of player
I think he can pretty much put it in the bank that Wojo will be hot after all the top wing grad transfers.
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I'd really like to see us add a true PG. You know the kind that can break any press, and penetrate and kick. We haven't had one in a long time.
After that, I'd like two bigs. One that can step in at around 6'9" to rebound and play D, while another that may fill a need at Center (doesn't need to be a starter, but would be nice to get a competent 10 minute per game guy).
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I'll take door number 3. We've got the components for the first two either on or coming to the roster. What we need is a sheriff, ala Ouze and Jon Harris. Clean up the glass, body up players in the paint. If they can shoot the 3, fine I'll take it, but is definitely not a requirement.
My theory is, with that type of player you play Markus, Haanif, Sam, unnamed sheriff, and Froling....that line-up should be able to play competent defense/rebound and the offense should be unreal.
You might have had me if you used Faisal Abraham as the example of the sheriff we need.
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You might have had me if you used Faisal Abraham as the example of the sheriff we need.
Good Theo comp = Faisal
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Here's the perfect fit...
Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein · 13m13 minutes ago
Long Beach State's Roschon Prince will graduate and transfer, per release. Averaged 13.4 PPG and 9.4 RPG. Immediately eligible.
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Here's the perfect fit...
Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein · 13m13 minutes ago
Long Beach State's Roschon Prince will graduate and transfer, per release. Averaged 13.4 PPG and 9.4 RPG. Immediately eligible.
Those are not his numbers on ESPN. Not sure he is what we need at all, he would join a log jam at the 3/4.
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Those are not his numbers on ESPN. Not sure he is what we need at all, he would join a log jam at the 3/4.
Yah, I see 9.4/6.9. Were he a rebounding 4 that could play some D, I'd be all for it, along with a scoring wing. But doesn't seem like a great fit just by looking at his numbers.
He did play at year at USC with Katin. So there is that.
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Averaged 5.1 ppg/4.0 rpg against top-100 competition. I'd say pass.
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Prince is an intriguing prospect. Good size for a wing and not afraid to mix it up. But he has no shot. 0 career 3Ps. Not sure he'd fit in our offense. But wouldn't be the worst guy to have on your bench. There are better possibilities at this point.
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Somewhat OT because these guys aren't graduates, but Shayok and Reuter are both leaving UVA.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18979864/marial-shayok-jarred-reuter-transferring-virginia-cavaliers
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Anyone hoping for Jeffrey Carroll can forget that. He's testing the draft waters without an agent, but said if he comes back, Oklahoma State is the only school he'd play for.
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Chris Chiozza should transfer after this year to MU
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Anyone hoping for Jeffrey Carroll can forget that. He's testing the draft waters without an agent, but said if he comes back, Oklahoma State is the only school he'd play for.
I was juts on kenpom and looked at Jeffery Carroll, they are comparing him to Lazar Hayward. Also i looked at Roschon Prince and they have him compared to Desi Rodriguez. This is irrelevant just wanted to share
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So...if we really want to go for the scoring midgets route, James Daniel of Howard is transferring and immediately eligible. The 5'10" guard led the country in scoring with 27.1 ppg in 2015-16 but only played 2 games last year.
Honestly, can't see any way they'd look at him here because I don't think he actually fixes any of our issues, but man, we'd have some runts who could flat out score.
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So...if we really want to go for the scoring midgets route, James Daniel of Howard is transferring and immediately eligible. The 5'10" guard led the country in scoring with 27.1 ppg in 2015-16 but only played 2 games last year.
Honestly, can't see any way they'd look at him here because I don't think he actually fixes any of our issues, but man, we'd have some runts who could flat out score.
we would have 3-4 guys that could light it up whenever..scary
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we would have 3-4 guys that could light it up whenever..scary
Meanwhile on the other end...
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I seem to remember a list last year that Paint touches did on all Grad transfer options. Hopefully we have that again. Interesting names so far IMO are Donnal from Michigan and Obi from Duke. Both bigs....I would say we have a logjam at the 4/5 but I think any athletic BIGs that can get boards should be something we look at.
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I seem to remember a list last year that Paint touches did on all Grad transfer options. Hopefully we have that again. Interesting names so far IMO are Donnal from Michigan and Obi from Duke. Both bigs....I would say we have a logjam at the 4/5 but I think any athletic BIGs that can get boards should be something we look at.
Obi is an interesting name.
TAMU has released his first list, but it hasn't been updated in about 5 days and obviously several names, including both you listed are not on it yet. Thread title is "Free Agent Tracker".
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Obi is an interesting name.
Obi transferred from Rice to Duke and I don't think he played more than 20 minutes total while at Duke something about knee problems.
But man this is some massive guy.
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Obi is an interesting name.
TAMU has released his first list, but it hasn't been updated in about 5 days and obviously several names, including both you listed are not on it yet. Thread title is "Free Agent Tracker".
Thanks! I figured there was something out there!
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Obi transferred from Rice to Duke and I don't think he played more than 20 minutes total while at Duke something about knee problems.
But man this is some massive guy.
Probably shot a bit high. Averaged 10.5/9.5 as a freshman at Rice. If he's healthy, he'd certainly be useful.
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Probably shot a bit high. Averaged 10.5/9.5 as a freshman at Rice. If he's healthy, he'd certainly be useful.
I thought I read he might be able to squeeze out a 6th year, but I don't know.
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I thought I read he might be able to squeeze out a 6th year, but I don't know.
Certainly possible. He has only appeared in 2 seasons, and one of the season he only saw 27 minutes.
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Certainly possible. He has only appeared in 2 seasons, and one of the season he only saw 27 minutes.
Thanks for the info.
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Probably shot a bit high. Averaged 10.5/9.5 as a freshman at Rice. If he's healthy, he'd certainly be useful.
2nd highest DR% in college hoops his frosh year, top 100 eFG%.... Sign him up!
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2nd highest DR% in college hoops his frosh year, top 100 eFG%.... Sign him up!
His freshman year he was very effective at yale.
eFG%: 58.7(Non Conf) 61.1(Conf play)
DR%:30.6 which as Ellenson Family said was second best in the country.
Lets get him here
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I seem to remember a list last year that Paint touches did on all Grad transfer options. Hopefully we have that again. Interesting names so far IMO are Donnal from Michigan and Obi from Duke. Both bigs....I would say we have a logjam at the 4/5 but I think any athletic BIGs that can get boards should be something we look at.
You could try checking their website ;)
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You could try checking their website ;)
That is too logical for me
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You could try checking their website ;)
I'm going to wait for Heisy to copy/paste it here.
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One of each.
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Al Freeman of Baylor will be a grad transfer. 6'3 guard averaged 9.4 ppg this year. Did have a 3 game suspension this year for violating team rules, not sure what that was about. If he can play some D I wouldn't be opposed to it.
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Vance Jackson of UConn is transferring, in 2016 he was a top 100 recruit. Averaged 26.1 mpg, 8.1 ppg and 3.8 rpg. He's from california so i would not be surprised if he went back to the west coast
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Sign me up for Obi!
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Vance Jackson of UConn is transferring, in 2016 he was a top 100 recruit. Averaged 26.1 mpg, 8.1 ppg and 3.8 rpg. He's from california so i would not be surprised if he went back to the west coast
Not a grad transfer.
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Not a grad transfer.
Didn't say he was, i said he was a top 100 recruit in 2016
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Didn't say he was, i said he was a top 100 recruit in 2016
Then why are you posting it in the "Biggest Grad Transfer Need" thread?
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Al Freeman of Baylor will be a grad transfer. 6'3 guard averaged 9.4 ppg this year. Did have a 3 game suspension this year for violating team rules, not sure what that was about. If he can play some D I wouldn't be opposed to it.
I just ran the numbers on synergy. Al can play some D. He can play some serious D. I WANT him.
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A 6'10" guy from UWGB declared for the draft, but also is graduating with eligibility remaining should the process not go well. Anyone know if he'd be a fit?
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A 6'10" guy from UWGB declared for the draft, but also is graduating with eligibility remaining should the process not go well. Anyone know if he'd be a fit?
Kerem Kanter, younger brother of former Kentucky commit and NBA player Enes Kanter. Does a bit of everything up front, though might overlap with what they will expect Harry to do.
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So...if we really want to go for the scoring midgets route, James Daniel of Howard is transferring and immediately eligible. The 5'10" guard led the country in scoring with 27.1 ppg in 2015-16 but only played 2 games last year.
Honestly, can't see any way they'd look at him here because I don't think he actually fixes any of our issues, but man, we'd have some runts who could flat out score.
Thought I would share this: http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/on-campus-blog/dp-phoebus-grad-james-daniel-iii-to-transfer-from-howard-20170328-story.html
Mentions that he wants to play in either the Big East or Big 10. Don't think we're after another micro-guard but one of our opponents might
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Verbal Commits @VerbalCommits · 6h6 hours ago
Rice F Egor Koulechov (RS JR) is leaving the program. Will graduate & is eligible immediately.
Now this is one definitely worth keeping an eye on..Averaged 18.2 pts, 8.9 Rebs, and 47% from 3. Guard/F with size 6'5...AND transferred originally from Arizona State, was there in '13-'14 Stan's first year at ASU, so the relationship is definitely there.
He would fit exactly what MU is trying to do. Can you imagine, the shooting with Him, Markus, Sam and Andrew?? ...UNBELIEVEABLE and unstoppable.
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Verbal Commits @VerbalCommits · 6h6 hours ago
Rice F Egor Koulechov (RS JR) is leaving the program. Will graduate & is eligible immediately.
Now this is one definitely worth keeping an eye on..Averaged 18.2 pts, 8.9 Rebs, and 47% from 3. Guard/F with size 6'5...AND transferred originally from Arizona State, was there in '13-'14 Stan's first year at ASU, so the relationship is definitely there.
He would fit exactly what MU is trying to do. Can you imagine, the shooting with Him, Markus, Sam and Andrew?? ...UNBELIEVEABLE and unstoppable.
He is the one I have been waiting for. With the previous relationship with Stan, I don't see anyway we don't reach out. Would be a great fit. Question will be if he just wants to follow Rhoades to VCU.
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VCU was the first place I thought. Gotta feel for Rice, they had a good team coming back that seems to be coming apart on them. If Koulechov can defend, he would be ideal. Imagine a GSW style Death lineup with Howard, Rowsey, Koulechov, Hauser, and Froling. That could be absolutely brutal to defend in stretches.
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Verbal Commits @VerbalCommits · 6h6 hours ago
Rice F Egor Koulechov (RS JR) is leaving the program. Will graduate & is eligible immediately.
Now this is one definitely worth keeping an eye on..Averaged 18.2 pts, 8.9 Rebs, and 47% from 3. Guard/F with size 6'5...AND transferred originally from Arizona State, was there in '13-'14 Stan's first year at ASU, so the relationship is definitely there.
He would fit exactly what MU is trying to do. Can you imagine, the shooting with Him, Markus, Sam and Andrew?? ...UNBELIEVEABLE and unstoppable.
Ohhhh man. Would this ever make me happy.
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He is the one I have been waiting for. With the previous relationship with Stan, I don't see anyway we don't reach out. Would be a great fit. Question will be if he just wants to follow Rhoades to VCU.
I dont think he will follow Rhoades. The assistant that recruited him to ASU and was then the reason he transferred to Rice..was just named Rice's Head Coach. Egor stated his love for him and what made this decision so hard was him being named head coach. Ironically, he's the asst Stan replaced at ASU.
There is some thought he may explore pro options overseas. That being said I'd be shocked if MU doesn't work this one hard. He is the definition of a perfect fit.
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He is the one I have been waiting for. With the previous relationship with Stan, I don't see anyway we don't reach out. Would be a great fit. Question will be if he just wants to follow Rhoades to VCU.
Have you run your synergy model (admit I have no idea what that is, but I have seen you mention it), to see if this guy can play any defense?
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I would make such a mess in my pants with the addition of Egor
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Have you run your synergy model (admit I have no idea what that is, but I have seen you mention it), to see if this guy can play any defense?
I did a while ago, I honestly don't remember but I think it was good. Synergy isn't mine BTW, it's a website
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I would make such a mess in my pants with the addition of Egor
What connection does he have to MU? Why would he consider us?
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I did a while ago, I honestly don't remember but I think it was good. Synergy isn't mine BTW, it's a website
Lol, I didn't mean literally your model, just the model you use. I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that it was at least behind a paywall.
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What connection does he have to MU? Why would he consider us?
The answer you seek is located on this page of the thread.
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VCU was the first place I thought. Gotta feel for Rice, they had a good team coming back that seems to be coming apart on them. If Koulechov can defend, he would be ideal. Imagine a GSW style Death lineup with Howard, Rowsey, Koulechov, Hauser, and Froling. That could be absolutely brutal to defend in stretches.
Woof. No clue if we could defend worth a damn, but at the very least, i can assume other teams won't knock down 3s at the same clip.
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Lol, I didn't mean literally your model, just the model you use. I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that it was at least behind a paywall.
It is behind a paywall. Andrei got it for paint touches. It's fun ;D
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6-7 year long lurker here, happy to finally join the board. Just wanted to say Egor would be an outstanding get. That being said, there are a lot of interesting names right now and I'm sure the list will only get longer. Lets reel some in some big fish this year boys.
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Narrowing this down to-- Transfers- Ed Morrow, Nebraska, Noah
Dickerson, Josh Nebo, FRESHMEN: Jamerl Baker or Clifton Moore.
I Like Dickerson and Morrow. Is Morrow a Grad Transfer? How many
do we get?
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Narrowing this down to-- Transfers- Ed Morrow, Nebraska, Noah
Dickerson, Josh Nebo, FRESHMEN: Jamerl Baker or Clifton Moore.
I Like Dickerson and Morrow. Is Morrow a Grad Transfer? How many
do we get?
Murrow is a traditional transfer. Has 2 years remaining after a RS year. Same with Dickerson and Nebo. Non are grad transfers.
Haven't heard anything on Clifton Moore. Really it was just a follow from Stan. Not sure there is much there. Baker probably is only an option if Greg goes to MSU.
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Murrow is a traditional transfer. Has 2 years remaining after a RS year. Same with Dickerson and Nebo. Non are grad transfers.
Haven't heard anything on Clifton Moore. Really it was just a follow from Stan. Not sure there is much there. Baker probably is only an option if Greg goes to MSU.
Maybe. Or its possible that Elliot is only an option if Baker doesn't return the love. From my very inexperienced eye, Baker seem like a better prospect than Elliot.
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Have you run your synergy model (admit I have no idea what that is, but I have seen you mention it), to see if this guy can play any defense?
Ran it over lunch. I would categorize him as an average to below average defender. Struggles against the pick and roll so he'll fit right in. Freeman might be more of what we need, but Egor is the better overall prospect IMHO. Combine that with the Stan Johnson connection and Freeman's mysterious 4 game suspension for violation of team rules, I think its more likely we go after the Russian.
Mentioned this elsewhere too but the motivation for transfer might be better with Egor. Freeman is likely transferring because he wants to be the man and showcase himself to the NBA. Egor I think would be happy just playing on a high major team and making the big dance. This of course is just based on the school they are transferring from, I have no idea what their personalities are. But I think transfers from mid/low majors often have a more team focused attitude than a grad transfer from another high major.
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See also, how Reinhardt was on display in November and December before buying in, while Rowsey eased his way into the offense.
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Maybe. Or its possible that Elliot is only an option if Baker doesn't return the love. From my very inexperienced eye, Baker seem like a better prospect than Elliot.
Oh I completely agree. I am not overly enamored with Greg. I'd definitely take him, but I am not going to lose any sleep if he goes elsewhere. I'd rather have Baker. Just seems to me that we've been in on Elliot for a much longer time, and it would be a little crapty of the Wojo and Co. to tell Elliot now that his offer isn't firm until Baker decides what he is doing. My guess is it is a first come first serve type of deal, but I admittedly don't know exactly how all this stuff plays out behind the scenes.
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Narrowing this down to-- Transfers- Ed Morrow, Nebraska, Noah
Dickerson, Josh Nebo, FRESHMEN: Jamerl Baker or Clifton Moore.
I Like Dickerson and Morrow. Is Morrow a Grad Transfer? How many
do we get?
Earl your instincts are right on. Morrow and Dickerson would be exactly the kind of guys we need.
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Ran it over lunch. I would categorize him as an average to below average defender. Struggles against the pick and roll so he'll fit right in. Freeman might be more of what we need, but Egor is the better overall prospect IMHO. Combine that with the Stan Johnson connection and Freeman's mysterious 4 game suspension for violation of team rules, I think its more likely we go after the Russian.
Mentioned this elsewhere too but the motivation for transfer might be better with Egor. Freeman is likely transferring because he wants to be the man and showcase himself to the NBA. Egor I think would be happy just playing on a high major team and making the big dance. This of course is just based on the school they are transferring from, I have no idea what their personalities are. But I think transfers from mid/low majors often have a more team focused attitude than a grad transfer from another high major.
Could Egor play the 4? Or is a more of a wing? With his rebound totals, looks like he could play the 4. Just thinking perhaps Egor and Freeman could both be options, one as a front court player and the other a wing stopper.
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Could Egor play the 4? Or is a more of a wing? With his rebound totals, looks like he could play the 4. Just thinking perhaps Egor and Freeman could both be options, one as a front court player and the other a wing stopper.
Ha looking at DR%, he would have been the best on the team last year. If his D is below average, at least he's a 3 & DR% specialist?
Would take him as a Reinhardt replacement in a heartbeat.
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Probably won't be a target, but another interesting grad trasnfer. Kendall Smith of Cal State Northridge.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66367/kendall-smith (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66367/kendall-smith)
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The answer you seek is located on this page of the thread.
No, I read that and was hoping we had something more. Because there are probably 30 schools that can say then have a similar type of connection. Maybe more.
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No, I read that and was hoping we had something more. Because there are probably 30 schools that can say then have a similar type of connection. Maybe more.
Yeah, 30 schools have an assistant coach that was on ASU's staff during his time there...
:o
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No, I read that and was hoping we had something more. Because there are probably 30 schools that can say then have a similar type of connection. Maybe more.
30 or more schools have an assistant on staff who worked with him at ASU? Uhh...no. Just admit you were too lazy to read. Again.
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Whoa, whoa. Who is this Jameri Baker guy you fellas are talking about? I googled and couldn't find anything.
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Whoa, whoa. Who is this Jameri Baker guy you fellas are talking about? I googled and couldn't find anything.
That's because his name is Jamerl not Jameri.
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That's because his name is Jamerl not Jameri.
:o
I have two observations.
1) In my neighborhood everyone was named Mike, Bob, John, or Greg. Thank God we have jjjjj to make sure we have all the names right.
2) Get my reading glasses before turning on Scoop in the morning!
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PT, get TAMU on the payroll so he can keep us updated daily on all these guys!
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I thought I read he might be able to squeeze out a 6th year, but I don't know.
Doesn't fit the criteria.
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Doesn't fit the criteria.
OK, Thanks
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PT, get TAMU on the payroll so he can keep us updated daily on all these guys!
Submitted an update today. Will post once Andrei reviews it.
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Per Corey Evans on twitter, Marquette has offered Pitt grad transfer Cameron Johnson.
Long list of offers though. I counted 20.
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Per Corey Evans on twitter, Marquette has offered Pitt grad transfer Cameron Johnson.
Long list of offers though. I counted 20.
Interesting
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Per Corey Evans on twitter, Marquette has offered Pitt grad transfer Cameron Johnson.
Long list of offers though. I counted 20.
6' 8", awesome shooter for size, mediocre rebounder for size. Sounds about right!
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6' 8", awesome shooter for size, mediocre rebounder for size. Sounds about right!
Grad transfer with 2 yrs
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The 6'4" guard out of California Jamari Baker on an official on Sunday.....
Lots of interest.....Can play right away.....
73rd ranked....We have a lot of time available.....
You need a 4 guard rotation at the 1 and 2.....
Hopefully that would keep Rousey and Howard out of foul trouble and certainly would add more length.....
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The 6'4" guard out of California Jamari Baker on an official on Sunday.....(opted out of his Califrornia commit when Quonzo left)
Lots of interest.....Can play right away.....
73rd ranked....We have a lot of time available.....
You need a 4 guard rotation at the 1 and 2.....
Hopefully that would keep Rousey and Howard out of foul trouble and certainly would add more length.....
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The 6'4" guard out of California Jamari Baker on an official on Sunday.....
Lots of interest.....Can play right away.....
73rd ranked....We have a lot of time available.....
Jamarl is a high school senior. This is a grad transfer thread. And he's not on an official, it's an in home.
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Jamarl is a high school senior.....This is a grad transfer thread.....And he's not on an official.....it's an in home.....
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Is...... that........ key........ stuck........ on........ his.......... computer?
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Is...... that........ key........ stuck........ on........ his.......... computer?
It is my belief.....that it is meant.....for us to take the time......to seriously ponder......these significant......and important......burger bullet points....
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Thanks for that fix ;D
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Given the infantile nature of most on this forum.....
The periods help those struggling brain cell(s) digest important info.....
Because if I am going to type.....for half of you imbeciles....
And knowing the consumption of alcohol and other substances that is prevalent at MU.....Well....
Anything to help you guys out.....Your welcome.....
Bartender at the Lanche in 84.....
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Given the infantile nature of most on this forum.....
Bartender at the Lanche in 84.....
Perfect
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Given the infantile nature of most on this forum.....
The periods help those struggling brain cell(s) digest important info.....
Because if I am going to type.....for half of you imbeciles....
And knowing the consumption of alcohol and other substances that is prevalent at MU.....Well....
Anything to help you guys out.....Your You're welcome.....
Bartender at the Lanche in 84.....
Fixed it for you. If you're going to call people imbeciles you should at least know the difference between your/you're...
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Fixed it for you. If you're going to call people imbeciles you should at least know the difference between your/you're...
That should about do it, set and match to VegasWarrior77...........
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Given the infantile nature of most on this forum.....
The periods help those struggling brain cell(s) digest important info.....
Because if I am going to type.....for half of you imbeciles....
And knowing the consumption of alcohol and other substances that is prevalent at MU.....Well....
Anything to help you guys out.....Your welcome.....
Bartender at the Lanche in 84.....
Tries to insult the intelligence of all Scoop posters, yet doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're." Classic.
Seems like the only people who need the ...'s is the one who uses them in their writing.
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Given the infantile nature of most on this forum.....
The periods help those struggling brain cell(s) digest important info.....
Because if I am going to type.....for half of you imbeciles....
And knowing the consumption of alcohol and other substances that is prevalent at MU.....Well....
Anything to help you guys out.....Your welcome.....
Bartender at the Lanche in 84.....
Are you related to Mazos?
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Given the infantile nature of most on this forum.....
The periods help those struggling brain cell(s) digest important info.....
Because if I am going to type.....for half of you imbeciles....
And knowing the consumption of alcohol and other substances that is prevalent at MU.....Well....
Anything to help you guys out.....Your welcome.....
Bartender at the Lanche in 84.....
Hey, at least you made Scoop Takes!
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Memphis guard Markel Crawford will be grad transfer. 12.8 ppg this year.
Tigers now losing top 3 scorers from this season.
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Memphis guard Markel Crawford will be grad transfer. 12.8 ppg this year.
Tigers now losing top 3 scorers from this season.
Lets sign him up we have had a good experience with guards from Memphis.
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Karem Kanter to Xavier. So he won't be a Warrior, but we will be seeing him!
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Karem Kanter to Xavier. So he won't be a Warrior, but we will be seeing him!
Gotta believe though this means MU is in great shape with Morrow.
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Gotta believe though this means MU is in great shape with Morrow.
Why? I haven't read anything to indicate that we were interested in Kanter.
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Why? I haven't read anything to indicate that we were interested in Kanter.
I think his thought was that Xavier would not continue pursuit of Morrow given their landing of Kanter.
But since Kanter is a rent-a-transfer and Morrow is a sit-out guy, this no matta.
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I think his thought was that Xavier would not continue pursuit of Morrow given their landing of Kanter.
But since Kanter is a rent-a-transfer and Morrow is a sit-out guy, this no matta.
It matters a lot if you don't have any more scholarships to give Morrow(unless Bluiett stays in draft).
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It matters a lot if you don't have any more scholarships to give Morrow(unless Bluiett stays in draft).
Doubting Bluiett stays in draft after he was caught with hash oil earlier this week.
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I think his thought was that Xavier would not continue pursuit of Morrow given their landing of Kanter.
But since Kanter is a rent-a-transfer and Morrow is a sit-out guy, this no matta.
Gotcha, I missed the Xavier-Morrow connection. I think Transfer U (aka Iowa State) is probably the biggest competition for Morrow. I'm curious how much we pursue Morrow. I perceive bigger needs for the team. His skillset seems very similar to Theo John's. But this is why I am a bum on the internet and Wojo gets paid the big bucks.
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Gotcha, I missed the Xavier-Morrow connection. I think Transfer U (aka Iowa State) is probably the biggest competition for Morrow. I'm curious how much we pursue Morrow. I perceive bigger needs for the team. His skillset seems very similar to Theo John's. But this is why I am a bum on the internet and Wojo gets paid the big bucks.
I think you under estimate Morrow. Dude is good.
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I think you under estimate Morrow. Dude is good.
I just wish he was eligible this year..he'd be the perfect fit then. I'd still take him, but..Damn if only..
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I think you under estimate Morrow. Dude is good.
Never said he wasn't. I just perceive bigger needs on the roster. Sometimes you draft for need, sometimes you draft best available. I would categorize Morrow in the best available section.
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I just wish he was eligible this year..he'd be the perfect fit then. I'd still take him, but..Damn if only..
If he can get healthy, Morrow's twin (similar play style) is available this year.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs
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Now this is big if he elects to grad transfer...lock down defender and IL St best overall player
Josh Tolentino @JCTSports
Breaking: MiKyle McIntosh will not return to Illinois State for last year of eligibility, source says. #REDBIRDHoops
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It is time for Wojo to stop trying to get grad transfers. He has 11 players right now, that I am sure think they all want to start next year. If you bring in a small
forward, why did you redshirt Anim, to sit another year. What did you tell Cain, or even Elliott. They want playing time. I would rather see him recruit Joey, Bailey
and maybe that is it. 12 players the following year. I know everybody wants to overrecruit kids and pick up a 13th player, but why. Always keep one open, for
the following spring so if you can get a top player, there might be a player available. The new arena will be done shortly, it will be much easier to recruit with that
and the Bucks doing well. I really liked the idea of going after that Cal recruit, so you missed him, you might get a 4 or 5 star recruit in the future as you already
have players the next few years. You have 10 after that. The Detroit connection might comeback into play if the 3 really like here. Lots of positives.
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It is time for Wojo to stop trying to get grad transfers. He has 11 players right now, that I am sure think they all want to start next year. If you bring in a small
forward, why did you redshirt Anim, to sit another year. What did you tell Cain, or even Elliott. They want playing time. I would rather see him recruit Joey, Bailey
and maybe that is it. 12 players the following year. I know everybody wants to overrecruit kids and pick up a 13th player, but why. Always keep one open, for
the following spring so if you can get a top player, there might be a player available. The new arena will be done shortly, it will be much easier to recruit with that
and the Bucks doing well. I really liked the idea of going after that Cal recruit, so you missed him, you might get a 4 or 5 star recruit in the future as you already
have players the next few years. You have 10 after that. The Detroit connection might comeback into play if the 3 really like here. Lots of positives.
Except in my opinion they will still be too young next year and upgrading talent whenever possible should always be a priority. I just don't believe they make the NCAA'S next year with basically Freshman and Sophomores(with the exception of Rowsey)as your focal points.