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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MarquetteDano on March 18, 2017, 01:44:45 PM

Title: Conference Records (thru Elite Eight)
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 18, 2017, 01:44:45 PM
Conference   Bids   Avg Seed   W–L   %   S16  FF    +/-
WCC24.005-1.833   11 +4.0
PAC-1244.7510-3.769   31 +5.0
SEC56.0011-4.733   31 +9.5
Big 1265.679-6.600   30 +2.0
Big 1077.148-7.533   30 +2.0
ACC95.119-8.529   11 -5.0
Big East77.436-7.462   20 +3.0
AAC26.001-2.333   00 -2.5
A-1039.331-3.250   00 -1.0
One Bid2313.874-23.148   00 -16.0

That Plus/Minus column is comparative to seed.  If you are favored and win you get +1.  Not favored and lose you get -1.  If you get upset it is the diff between seeds divided by two (minus) and the opposite (plus) if you upset a team.  Min for a win is +1 and -1 for loss.

SEC had to play one another so guaranteed win and also guaranteed loss.

PAC-12 probably looking the best at this point.

UNC helping ACC's cause though given how high the conference's average seed has still underperformed in tourney by far.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru First Round)
Post by: Skitch on March 18, 2017, 01:48:31 PM
Big East is 2-0?
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru First Round)
Post by: forgetful on March 18, 2017, 01:54:57 PM
Big East is 2-0?

It operates on the principle that a win is counted only if you are an underdog. A loss only if you were favored to win and lost.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru First Round)
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2017, 02:02:10 PM
It operates on the principle that a win is counted only if you are an underdog. A loss only if you were favored to win and lost.

That can't be.  All the other "bids" match w-l, with the exception of a couple because of the play in games.  BE should just be 3-4.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru First Round)
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 18, 2017, 02:05:20 PM
That can't be.  All the other "bids" match w-l, with the exception of a couple because of the play in games.  BE should just be 3-4.

Yep.  Especially obvious because it says BE is 2-0 with a .429 winning %.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru First Round)
Post by: forgetful on March 18, 2017, 02:20:27 PM
That can't be.  All the other "bids" match w-l, with the exception of a couple because of the play in games.  BE should just be 3-4.

You're right.  His numbers just don't make any sense.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru First Round)
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 18, 2017, 02:21:59 PM
That can't be.  All the other "bids" match w-l, with the exception of a couple because of the play in games.  BE should just be 3-4.

Fixed.  Percentage was right,  record was wrong.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Second Round)
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 20, 2017, 03:38:42 AM
Bump for end of Second Round.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Second Round)
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2017, 06:07:15 AM
Wouldn't have guessed that ACC would only have one S16 team ... and UNC was pretty fortunate to beat Arkansas.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Sweet Sixteen)
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 25, 2017, 09:50:45 AM
Bump for Sweet Sixteen update.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Sweet Sixteen)
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 25, 2017, 10:02:55 AM
The thing that has really impressed me about the SEC teams is the defense - SC, UK and UF all are very solid defensive teams.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Sweet Sixteen)
Post by: Nukem2 on March 25, 2017, 10:28:46 AM
The thing that has really impressed me about the SEC teams is the defense - SC, UK and UF all are very solid defensive teams.
Each is long, strong and athletic.  Very same attributes MU has been missing.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Elite Eight)
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 26, 2017, 10:16:03 PM
Bump for Elite Eight update.
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Elite Eight)
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 27, 2017, 09:04:34 AM
Big East the only major conference to finish below .500

Eek
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Elite Eight)
Post by: BM1090 on March 27, 2017, 09:07:27 AM
Big East the only major conference to finish below .500

Eek

Adjusted for seed and expected performance, the Big East did just fine
Title: Re: Conference Records (thru Elite Eight)
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 27, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
Irrefutable evidence that Marquette needs to quit the Big East and join the West Coast Conference.  But, will the nursing home let me stay up late enough to watch the games?