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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mu_hilltopper on March 16, 2017, 11:21:05 AM
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http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/03/16/indiana-fires-tom-crean-after-nine-seasons/
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Countdown to....Wojo to Indiana?
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YESSSSS!!!! #ItsIndianaItsIndiana
All the schadenfreude today! :D
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Fire Wojo! Hire him back! ;)
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Buzz to Indiana.
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Seriously though, in hindsight I wonder if Crean wishes he would have stayed here. I think he could have been a lifer at Marquette.
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(https://media.tenor.co/images/d43704b257d1f084efb71a1cac9335e8/raw)
It was Indiana....it was Indiana.....
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Seriously though, in hindsight I wonder if Crean wishes he would have stayed here. I think he could have been a lifer at Marquette.
Who's to say that would have been Crean's choice? Look at Jamie Dixon at Pittsburgh - he struggled to win in March (much like Crean did at IU), and he left to take another job anyway. You don't see coaching lifers anymore because of the challenges to continue high success. Crean made the right choice then, and today is an even better result for him. He can go to a new school and start fresh.
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If we were looking for a coach, I would take him back.
I am happy with Wojo though.
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It's Illinois! It's Illinois!
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This picture showed up on my Facebook feed today as a memory from 2014...what a coincidence.....
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1378209_10152257745046083_526488247_n.jpg?oh=63c180d79de01e98d0fc941a53a67ef8&oe=5929D716)
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Lead Indiana out of the dumpster they were in, won regular season championships, but never the Big 10 tournament. Many injuries this year, but to much pressure from the program/fans/alumni. Thought he would get one more year.
Lets see who they direct their efforts after, Alford, Holtmann, Mack, the Millers, whole bunch out there and someone is going to get paid the big bucks.
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The chain reaction this sets off will be interesting.
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Crean picks up $ 4 million . He can sit back and pick the job that best fits his needs. I think he will do TV for a while . His son is going to play baseball at IU next year and I am sure he will want to enjoy that.
I think Indiana top brass needs a reality check though. The guy just came off a Big Ten Coach of the year and his team beat Kentucky and UNC this year. It is not like the program was going down the drain.
It would be helpful for MU if Crean stayed on the sidelines for a few years . One less competitor for Zaire's services .
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/573631635603779584/iS1KkXfF.jpeg)
The correct answer is "Go 18-16."
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No one wants Tom Crean on TV.
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I flagged the OP.
This thread needs to be in the Superbar.
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Crean picks up $ 4 million . He can sit back and pick the job that best fits his needs. I think he will do TV for a while . His son is going to play baseball at IU next year and I am sure he will want to enjoy that.
I think Indiana top brass needs a reality check though. The guy just came off a Big Ten Coach of the year and his team beat Kentucky and UNC this year. It is not like the program was going down the drain.
It would be helpful for MU if Crean stayed on the sidelines for a few years . One less competitor for Zaire's services .
I think this speaks volumes about IU basketball. Someone will jump at the job ("It's Indiana, it's Indiana) and be out on his ass in a few years.
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Cream doesn't bug me too much, a little smarmy maybe. I think is a good guy to get the things going in the he right direction/ back on track. I don't think he is a great coach or tactician.
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Crean picks up $ 4 million . He can sit back and pick the job that best fits his needs. I think he will do TV for a while . His son is going to play baseball at IU next year and I am sure he will want to enjoy that.
I think Indiana top brass needs a reality check though. The guy just came off a Big Ten Coach of the year and his team beat Kentucky and UNC this year. It is not like the program was going down the drain.
It would be helpful for MU if Crean stayed on the sidelines for a few years . One less competitor for Zaire's services .
Indiana didn't even play Kentucky this year, they beat Kansas in their first game. He's only 50 and there will be offers for him soon, if not already.
Zaire will join Stan Johnson on Quinnipiac's roster when Stan gets the call.........
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Couldn't have happened to a better guy.
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Gregg Marshall will go there. Tom Crean's twin
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Ironic timing by Fred Glass & IU to bury this news.
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The real question remains: Will Zaire ask for a release?
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I know a lot of happy Hoosier fans today....
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Do you think he lugs his personal tanning bed around with him from job to job, or does he just buy a new one when he moves?
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TC's game is a young man's game. He's all about interjecting energy. Can a 50 year old do that? He should go find a high paying NBA assistant gig.
We know he can't game coach. I just don't see him being an effective college coach anymore because I don't see him working as hard as he did at MU.
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer individual
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I know a lot of happy Hoosier fans today....
Chicos, meanwhile...
(http://www.drodd.com/images13/crying-gif6.gif)
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Watt's goin' down, fellas? Beautiful, beautiful day in MKE. Could not have happened ta a more deservin' ass wipin', motherfooker. As wee approach the 9th Annual FFC Day, karma's a bitch, ai na?
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Chicos, meanwhile...
(http://www.drodd.com/images13/crying-gif6.gif)
I suspect we're about to find out Chicos also went to NC State.
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He should go find a high paying NBA assistant gig.
We know he can't game coach.
What does he bring to the table as an NBA coach? His forte was recruiting.
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I wish someone would can me and give me $4m to take a hike.
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If I were him, I'd go hard after the Cal job.
Significantly less pressure from the fanbase. Good job. Beautiful part of the country. Terrible conference.
Lot of opportunity for building a good basketball program there. Cuonzo was never really right for that job.
I don't think NC State will go after him, but you never know. Would be interesting to see some Crean-Buzz matchups in the ACC. Assuming Buzz isn't already busy floating his name out for various 2017 openings.
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Indiana didn't even play Kentucky this year, they beat Kansas in their first game. He's only 50 and there will be offers for him soon, if not already.
Zaire will join Stan Johnson on Quinnipiac's roster when Stan gets the call.........
Kostas to transfer, hey?
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I wish someone would can me and give me $4m to take a hike.
Yeah, I think I could manage to live off of that until I am old enough to tap my 401(k).
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What does he bring to the table as an NBA coach? His forte was recruiting.
I agree, don't see his value in the NBA. However, his real forte is marketing a program. Honestly, he's one of the best at it.
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Crean to DePaul
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If I were him, I'd go hard after the Cal job.
Significantly less pressure from the fanbase. Good job. Beautiful part of the country. Terrible conference.
Lot of opportunity for building a good basketball program there. Cuonzo was never really right for that job.
I don't think NC State will go after him, but you never know. Would be interesting to see some Crean-Buzz matchups in the ACC. Assuming Buzz isn't already busy floating his name out for various 2017 openings.
Honest question (because I don't know the answer off the top of my head)... How many coaches have been fired by a "blue blood" and immediately been hired at another high-major school (i.e. didn't take a season off in between)?
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Will Riley get a release from his IU baseball scholarship?
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Crean to DePaul
I laughed, but he would be a great hire. Dead program, no buzz, opening a large arena. They need a marketer, that's Crean's wheelhouse.
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Crean sucks.
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Honest question (because I don't know the answer off the top of my head)... How many coaches have been fired by a "blue blood" and immediately been hired at another high-major school (i.e. didn't take a season off in between)?
Tubby Smith
Jim Harrick
Eddie Sutton, maybe?
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Crean to DePaul
....but it's not April 1 yet.
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I laughed, but he would be a great hire. Dead program, no buzz, opening a large arena. They need a marketer, that's Crean's wheelhouse.
It'd be terrible. Nobody would buy Crean's act in Chicago, least of all HS coaches
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If Princeton can keep their lead, this could be a beautiful day!
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Hard to find any karmic satisfaction as he walks with 4m in his greasy little pockets.
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Chicos, meanwhile...
(http://www.drodd.com/images13/crying-gif6.gif)
Well, I mean, Crean did get five years.
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Did not like how TC's departure from MU went down, but he truly needs to be recognized for all the good things he did for MU. 4ever and others may want to ridicule him, but he did produce at a high level. Hope he lands well.
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I laughed, but he would be a great hire. Dead program, no buzz, opening a large arena. They need a marketer, that's Crean's wheelhouse.
In a different part of the country, I agree. But I think he's too well known around Chicago because of MU and IU, and those negative feelings are going to hurt his schtick.
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Did not like how TC's departure from MU went down, but he truly needs to be recognized for all the good things he did for MU. 4ever and others may want to ridicule him, but he did produce at a high level. Hope he lands well.
Agreed.
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Tubby Smith
Jim Harrick
Eddie Sutton, maybe?
Tubby crossed my mind, but Wikipedia seems to think he resigned, but it certainly could have been one of those "if you don't resign, you're fired" type of deals (Sutton's definitely was). Harrick took a year off before landing at Rhode Island (not exactly high-major). Sutton also took a year off before OK State.
What I'm getting at here (obviously) is that Crean's prospects for coaching next season seem rather dim based on the historicals. Who knows... someone might want to take a flyer on him, but is someone going to pay him $3M+/year? I don't think Crean's ego would allow him to take a pay cut, at least not right away. Might be better off going to Michigan and becoming a Director of Player Operations or sumthin'.
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In a different part of the country, I agree. But I think he's too well known around Chicago because of MU and IU, and those negative feelings are going to hurt his schtick.
Good point. The South Florida job is open.
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i know little about contract law...but i can't believe he's getting 4 million. could they have "re-assigned" him to a BS job till july...or kept him as the coach and just started the search process publicly saying he would be fired in july....and then not have pay him the full $4 million. i would think it was also to his advantage to get out now.
oh, and, crean's a prick.
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See ya!
Go Marquette.
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Chicos, meanwhile...
(http://www.drodd.com/images13/crying-gif6.gif)
You guys gotta let that guy go.
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My favorite Tom Crean video of all-time can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANsZfk5G8vA
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Good point. The South Florida job is open.
It's always open. (least it seems like it)
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It'd be terrible. Nobody would buy Crean's act in Chicago, least of all HS coaches
You're kidding, right. Depaul would crap themselves with happiness if Tom Crean agreed to be their coach.
A proven program builder with regional ties.
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It's always open. (least it seems like it)
Yes, but you get the Sun Dolls with that gig. So, you got that goin' for ya, which is nice.
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I think Crean has touched his ceiling at two different schools. 18 years, 8 years not going to the dance at two high profile schools. One trip past the sweet 16 and that took Wade. He is what he is. What he isn't is a great coach. He can do rebuilds, but he can't get to an elite level. His in-game coaching hasn't improved. His personality hasn't improved. He will be hired by some power 5 program yearning to get back to respectability. And, given 5 years, he will bring that program to respectability. But he won't make them elite.
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I-4 should have let Crean find out he was fired by announcing at a press conference at which Crean wasn't invited but his players were.
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I think Crean has touched his ceiling at two different schools. 18 years, 8 years not going to the dance at two high profile schools. One trip past the sweet 16 and that took Wade. He is what he is. What he isn't is a great coach. He can do rebuilds, but he can't get to an elite level. His in-game coaching hasn't improved. His personality hasn't improved. He will be hired by some power 5 program yearning to get back to respectability. And, given 5 years, he will bring that program to respectability. But he won't make them elite.
Respectability is a many splendored thing.
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What does he bring to the table as an NBA coach? His forte was recruiting.
He can gameplan and prepare like few in the business. It's when the bullets start flying that he hides in his pants. He has value on an NBA bench in terms of game prep.
I mean I can't stand the dude but he spent 18 years at the D1 level, some NBA team would hire him.
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His 18 year track record tells the story. He is a good recruiter, an enthusiastic cheerleader. He is a poor in-game coach. His skill set has a ceiling. And his personality has a best-if-used-by date.
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He takes South Florida job, he wouldn't need the tanning bed as much.
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He takes South Florida job, he wouldn't need the tanning bed as much.
Hah. From a guy that doesn't throw out many jokes, that's pure gold.
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Tubby crossed my mind, but Wikipedia seems to think he resigned, but it certainly could have been one of those "if you don't resign, you're fired" type of deals (Sutton's definitely was). Harrick took a year off before landing at Rhode Island (not exactly high-major). Sutton also took a year off before OK State.
What I'm getting at here (obviously) is that Crean's prospects for coaching next season seem rather dim based on the historicals. Who knows... someone might want to take a flyer on him, but is someone going to pay him $3M+/year? I don't think Crean's ego would allow him to take a pay cut, at least not right away. Might be better off going to Michigan and becoming a Director of Player Operations or sumthin'.
As I recall, Tubby quit because among other things, fans were posting derogatory signs in his yard etc. so he must have seen the writing on the wall.
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Good point. The South Florida job is open.
Brian Gregory was hired there
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Brian Gregory was hired there
Didn't realize that. Talk about uninspiring, even for USF.
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Tubby Smith
Jim Harrick
Eddie Sutton, maybe?
Bobby Knight basically did. Only reason he took a season off is because he was fired in September.
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DePaul is a perfect fit for Crean right now. Wonder if they will even have a discussion about moving from Leitao to Crean within the athletic department. Probably not. They're most likely going gaga over their women's team going to the tournament.
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Tom Crean is the Charlie Sykes of coaching all about him and only him. Gasbag jerks.
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DePaul is a perfect fit for Crean right now. Wonder if they will even have a discussion about moving from Leitao to Crean within the athletic department. Probably not. They're most likely going gaga over their women's team going to the tournament.
Crean will get better offers than DePaul.
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DePaul is a perfect fit for Crean right now. Wonder if they will even have a discussion about moving from Leitao to Crean within the athletic department. Probably not. They're most likely going gaga over their women's team going to the tournament.
DePaul spend money? And a departed coach? Umm, no.
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I wish someone would can me and give me $4m to take a hike.
MU should look for that promissory note for the soccer stadium and see if Crean is looking to spend some of that $4M.
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Did not like how TC's departure from MU went down, but he truly needs to be recognized for all the good things he did for MU. 4ever and others may want to ridicule him, but he did produce at a high level. Hope he lands well.
+10000
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DePaul spend money? And a departed coach? Umm, no.
And a former Marquette coach? Nope.
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Countdown to....Wojo to Indiana?
Crean to mu.
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Lead Indiana out of the dumpster they were in, won regular season championships, but never the Big 10 tournament. Many injuries this year, but to much pressure from the program/fans/alumni. Thought he would get one more year.
Lets see who they direct their efforts after, Alford, Holtmann, Mack, the Millers, whole bunch out there and someone is going to get paid the big bucks.
Alford.
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Betting on Chris Mack...
I'm sure there will be a few calls from Bloomington to Boston as well...
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This picture showed up on my Facebook feed today as a memory from 2014...what a coincidence.....
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1378209_10152257745046083_526488247_n.jpg?oh=63c180d79de01e98d0fc941a53a67ef8&oe=5929D716)
LOL!
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Guaranteed T-Cubed isn't gettin' 4 mil. Dey coulda let him rot on da vine 'til summer. I'm figurin' 2 mil. was negotiated, hey? Dude should be able ta get a decent haircut now, ai na?
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Listening to Fred Glass today, he makes it sound they will be after a John Calipari-esque coach. Proven college winner, NBA ties, salary will not be a deterrent. Makes it sound like that are after Billy Donovan.
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PJ Carlesimo?
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Listening to Fred Glass today, he makes it sound they will be after a John Calipari-esque coach. Proven college winner, NBA ties, salary will not be a deterrent. Makes it sound like that are after Billy Donovan.
Billy Donovan would be a very good choice. Would he leave the NBA?
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PJ Carlesimo?
Lon Kruger?
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Indiana probably thinks they can get Brad Stevens. Bwahahahahhaha!!!!
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If I were him, I'd go hard after the Cal job.
Significantly less pressure from the fanbase. Good job. Beautiful part of the country. Terrible conference.
Lot of opportunity for building a good basketball program there. Cuonzo was never really right for that job.
I don't think NC State will go after him, but you never know. Would be interesting to see some Crean-Buzz matchups in the ACC. Assuming Buzz isn't already busy floating his name out for various 2017 openings.
Cal would be a nice fit. Not sure if it's really good or really bad to be the guy that accepts the NC State gig if Archie turns them down after they go all in on him.
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Listening to Fred Glass today, he makes it sound they will be after a John Calipari-esque coach. Proven college winner, NBA ties, salary will not be a deterrent. Makes it sound like that are after Billy Donovan.
Sounds like Stevens to me. Don't see it happening.
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Tom Crean is the Charlie Sykes of coaching all about him and only him. Gasbag jerks.
They kind of look alike too! 'Cept Tommy Tutone is a little more oily I think.
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Because he left Marquette for Indiana in the middle of the night similar to how the Baltimore Colts left for Indiana, we fans never really got closure with Tommy Tutone.
I think today is the day for closure for everyone.
After today, from this point forward I will only post about Crean if he is a future opponent or if the post concerns Marquette history.
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I wish someone would can me and give me $4m to take a hike.
Here's the kind of guy I am: I'd take half that!
Seriously, I agree with a couple of fellow Scoopers who think it's likely there was some kind of negotiation. Indiana could have let him rot till July 1, and he obviously didn't want that.
I also agree with those who acknowledge that Crean was an overall plus for the Marquette program. I didn't know him, so he was never a jerk to me. Hell, just for bringing in Wade and getting to one FF, I give him plaudits. The way he left was douchey, but that's sports.
As for the next Hoosier coach, Donovan makes a lot of sense. Oklahoma City is dead-man's land without Durant and, soon, without Westbrook. Why sit through a total rebuilding effort that might never bear fruit? A lot will depend upon if Donovan actually enjoys recruiting - some guys who leave for the NBA realize how nice it is to not have to lie to the mothers of 17-year-olds and never want to go back.
Stevens? That''s a pipe dream. He has a terrific situation in Boston - a good young team that soon (maybe even this year) will challenge for the NBA Finals, a big salary, a GM who loves him, etc.
The only other obvious choice to make Hoosierland great again: Stan Johnson. Duh!
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Betting on Chris Mack...
I'm sure there will be a few calls from Bloomington to Boston as well...
Chris Mack is at his alma mater and I think would kill to be the coach to get X a FF. I could see holtman before mack
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Bo Ryan, hey?
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Good call, 82. If Stan is the answer for MU, he would be the answer for I4
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Bo Ryan, hey?
Depends on the quality of massage therapists down in Bloomington
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KO?
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Chris Mack is at his alma mater and I think would kill to be the coach to get X a FF. I could see holtman before mack
While that may be true, there is more money in Bloomington and everyone from Indiana wants to coach there... even if it means leaving their alma mater.
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What about Archie Miller as the new IU coach?
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Shaka.
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TC may find it more difficult to recruit at his next stop vs. I4, a''ina?
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Gettin' chit canned gotta be a reel humblin' kick in his junk, hey?
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4ever
Come on, don't take the news so hard!!!!
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Billy Donovan would be a very good choice. Would he leave the NBA?
Would IU top the $6 million a year he's getting in the NBA? I doubt it.
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Would IU top the $6 million a year he's getting in the NBA? I doubt it.
Apparently you take this job because it's Indiana. All other considerations are secondary.
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What about Archie Miller as the new IU coach?
This is the guy they want, not Greg Marshall, all on Archie now. I have even heard holtman is the second choice.
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This is the guy they want, not Greg Marshall, all on Archie now. I have even heard holtman is the second choice.
Agree.
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This is the guy they want, not Greg Marshall, all on Archie now. I have even heard holtman is the second choice.
Miller and Holtmann make a lot of sense.
Great point about Donovan having to leave behind an amazing contract at Okla City. Some guys who are already richer than rich do have other motivation. A lot would depend upon if Donovan sees trouble ahead where he is now and/or misses coaching in college. He probably already has $30-40 million in the bank, and Hoosierland would pay him, what, $4 million a year? He might think he could get by just fine on that. But I certainly don't know what his motivation is. If it's money, he won't leave the NBA ... and I wouldn't blame him.
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Would any current school fire their current coach in order to hire Tom? I would think schools like Boston College, DePaul, Pittsburgh, Clemson, among others, would seriously look at dismissing their current coach in order to get Crean.
Personally, I think he sits out a year, spends time with family, watches Jim pulverize Indiana in football next year (and maniacally pace the sideline and adjust his belt), and look at getting a better job next year.
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Would any current school fire their current coach in order to hire Tom? I would think schools like Boston College, DePaul, Pittsburgh, Clemson, among others, would seriously look at dismissing their current coach in order to get Crean.
Personally, I think he sits out a year, spends time with family, watches Jim pulverize Indiana in football next year (and maniacally pace the sideline and adjust his belt), and look at getting a better job next year.
Nah son
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As I recall, Tubby quit because among other things, fans were posting derogatory signs in his yard etc. so he must have seen the writing on the wall.
or maybe he saw the writing on the signs...
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Would any current school fire their current coach in order to hire Tom? I would think schools like Boston College, DePaul, Pittsburgh, Clemson, among others, would seriously look at dismissing their current coach in order to get Crean.
None of these schools would, in large part because most aren't schools that invest so much in hoops that they're going to pay off one coach's contract and then pay what it would cost to hire Crean.
And Pitt isn't firing Stallings after one season.
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This is the guy they want, not Greg Marshall, all on Archie now. I have even heard holtman is the second choice.
I've (IU) been thinking about you a lot lately....
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How about Hoiberg?
I've told this story before, but my friends were behind Crean in line at the Holocaust Museum in DC of all places, a few years ago. After a few minutes, they introduced themselves as Marquette alum, explained they were there for the Final Four at Marquette, etc.. Crean couldn't have been more effusive of his praise of MU. He kept asking questions about which games they had gone too. He has a huge ego, but he probably misses his time at Marquette. A lot...
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How about Hoiberg?
I've told this story before, but my friends were behind Crean in line at the Holocaust Museum in DC of all places, a few years ago. After a few minutes, they introduced themselves as Marquette alum, explained they were there for the Final Four at Marquette, etc.. Crean couldn't have been more effusive of his praise of MU. He kept asking questions about which games they had gone too. He has a huge ego, but he probably misses his time at Marquette. A lot...
Crean is a total fin douche bag. Was really hopin IU would keep him another year and the dumpster fire would turn into an absolute inferno
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Seriously though, in hindsight I wonder if Crean wishes he would have stayed here. I think he could have been a lifer at Marquette.
In hindsight, I'm glad he left. I was pretty down at the time.
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Crean sucks
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Let's put this sh1t to rest. Crean was/is a first class Ahole. When he was at MU, he treated people like dirt. I have this from friends who work in the AD and experienced it first hand.
This hasn't been talked about much, but when he was at MU, he hired his father in law. Old man didn't do anything, but had a rep for being a foul mouthed person....at work. Didn't do Sh1t.
Although he was fired today, he didn't get what he deserved.
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ND sucks
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The loss against Stanford in the NCAA's should have shown the world that Crean was a terrible in-game coach (he lost to Stanford's assistant coach). He was a good recruiter, planned very well for every game, and ran a clean program; all items in his favor. In short, he is the perfect coach for a middling program.
I can't believe he lasted 9 years at IU.
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The loss against Stanford in the NCAA's should have shown the world that Crean was a terrible in-game coach (he lost to Stanford's assistant coach). He was a good recruiter, planned very well for every game, and ran a clean program; all items in his favor. In short, he is the perfect coach for a middling program.
I can't believe he lasted 9 years at IU.
You left out miserable human.
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You left out miserable human.
I've met a few people who said he was a professional grade tool, but I didn't have any personal experience with Crean.
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I've met a few people who said he was a professional grade tool, but I didn't have any personal experience with Crean.
Your friends were being kind.
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I was keeping it clean for any kids lurking on the Board. 8-)
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Let's put this sh1t to rest. Crean was/is a first class Ahole. When he was at MU, he treated people like dirt. I have this from friends who work in the AD and experienced it first hand.
This hasn't been talked about much, but when he was at MU, he hired his father in law. Old man didn't do anything, but had a rep for being a foul mouthed person....at work. Didn't do Sh1t.
Although he was fired today, he didn't get what he deserved.
Someone's been drinking.
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Someone's been drinking.
Thanks for chiming in Chicos
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I was keeping it clean for any kids lurking on the Board. 8-)
Well since this thread is dirty... can anyone explain the difference between a sad trombone and a rusty trombone?
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The loss against Stanford in the NCAA's should have shown the world that Crean was a terrible in-game coach (he lost to Stanford's assistant coach). He was a good recruiter, planned very well for every game, and ran a clean program; all items in his favor. In short, he is the perfect coach for a middling program.
I can't believe he lasted 9 years at IU.
Not a very good recruiter at mu, good recruiter at indiana outside of the state
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How perfect would it be if they hired Buzz?
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Not a very good recruiter at mu,
This seems kind of ridiculous, doesn't it?
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(http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tom-crean-gif.gif)
I still laugh every time I see that.
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I will say in person over the year, Crean's always been fine... but my interactions have been limited to (a) as media, interviewing him postgame and (b) as a scout, at live evaluation events in the spring and summer.
The circumstances around his departure from MU are not forgivable.
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Well since this thread is dirty... can anyone explain the difference between a sad trombone and a rusty trombone?
About 10 years and a bottle of Cialis.
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About 10 years and a bottle of Cialis.
That is so good
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It'd be terrible. Nobody would buy Crean's act in Chicago, least of all HS coaches.
Crean did land Dwyane Wade, Odartey Blankson, Jerel McNeal...
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Should have posted this when I saw the name of the thread...sorry.....
https://www.youtube.com/v/ie-hlcw8VnU
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Watt's goin' down, fellas? Beautiful, beautiful day in MKE. Could not have happened ta a more deservin' ass wipin', motherfooker. As wee approach the 9th Annual FFC Day, karma's a bitch, ai na?
Heard Hallmark's gonna be addin' a FFC section in the card aisle at Walgreens. They need a copywriter. You should give them a call, a'ina?
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I'ma just leave this link here ..
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/08/22/tom-crean-court-quiet-random-acts-kindness/32204753/
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I'ma just leave this link here ..
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/08/22/tom-crean-court-quiet-random-acts-kindness/32204753/
That is hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
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I'ma just leave this link here ..
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/08/22/tom-crean-court-quiet-random-acts-kindness/32204753/
The response will be crickets.
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Let's put this sh1t to rest. Crean was/is a first class Ahole. When he was at MU, he treated people like dirt. I have this from friends who work in the AD and experienced it first hand.
This hasn't been talked about much, but when he was at MU, he hired his father in law. Old man didn't do anything, but had a rep for being a foul mouthed person....at work. Didn't do Sh1t.
Although he was fired today, he didn't get what he deserved.
While I've heard similar the same people told me Buzz and his wife were 10x worse. It got to the point they wished Crean was back.
Meanwhile, Wojo and his wife are great, class act.
All of that said, we owe a ton to Crean. Second to Al for what he did for the program.
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That is hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
They left out the story about how he is so thoughtful, he always has a Sharpie handy in case anyone wants an autograph.
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While I've heard similar the same people told me Buzz and his wife were 10x worse. It got to the point they wished Crean was back.
That's the first I've heard of that.
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Anxious to get back in the saddle again.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/no-regrets-indiana-firing-tom-145645029.html
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The response will be crickets.
People who know him from his time at MU, especially in the AD, despise him for how he treated others.
Perhaps he's changed,
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http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/03/21/tom-crean-indiana-hoosiers-fired (http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/03/21/tom-crean-indiana-hoosiers-fired)
Crean apparently has his own version of reality:
"We didn't fail. We didn't lose this job because we lost...We're never going to look at failure being a part of this decision."
Coach, just because you say something out loud — and restate it 3 different ways — doesn't make it true.
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Final analysis: Crean took IU from being the 6th best team in the state of Indiana and turned them into the 5th best team in Indiana....and it only took 9 years.
Butler
ND
Purdue
Valpo
IU
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Den watt's his explanation for gettin' chit canned, hey?
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I'ma just leave this link here ..
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/08/22/tom-crean-court-quiet-random-acts-kindness/32204753/
Who can forget when he "quietly" wheeled that poor, sick individual into his postgame press conference. It's a wonder the media ever heard of it.
What a phony.
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If OG Anunoby stays healthy, Crean is probably still HC at Indiana. They were a projected 7-seed when he was injured. Then they lost 8 of 11. He did a bit of everything for them and covered a lot of warts. I think a bid would've bought him another year.
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But Crean says he's not a failure. It's unclear who "we" is in his mind unless he's blaming his wife. *remembers she's a Harbaugh* Continue, Tommy:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18974624/tom-crean-discusses-firing-indiana-hoosiers-coach-plans-finding-next-job (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18974624/tom-crean-discusses-firing-indiana-hoosiers-coach-plans-finding-next-job)
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But Crean says he's not a failure. It's unclear who "we" is in his mind unless he's blaming his wife. *remembers she's a Harbaugh* Continue, Tommy:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18974624/tom-crean-discusses-firing-indiana-hoosiers-coach-plans-finding-next-job (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18974624/tom-crean-discusses-firing-indiana-hoosiers-coach-plans-finding-next-job)
When you are a royal a$$hole, you get to use the royal we.
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If he is so obsessed with being properly aligned, I suggest TC look into the opening at New Zealand College of Chiropractic.
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But Crean says he's not a failure. It's unclear who "we" is in his mind unless he's blaming his wife. *remembers she's a Harbaugh* Continue, Tommy:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18974624/tom-crean-discusses-firing-indiana-hoosiers-coach-plans-finding-next-job (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18974624/tom-crean-discusses-firing-indiana-hoosiers-coach-plans-finding-next-job)
Found the one ring, he is Golum
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Ass hole is da victim. No blame ta him. Just a victim of circumstance. Wishes IU a championship, butt won't talk ta his former suga daddy who fired his sorry butt, ai na?
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Found the one ring, he is Golum
Newsie 1
Internet 0
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Ass hole is da victim. No blame ta him. Just a victim of circumstance. Wishes IU a championship, butt won't talk ta his former suga daddy who fired his sorry butt, ai na?
I'm starting to see why our US News ranking has stayed rather stagent and the inaugural WSJ rankings had us so low every time I read posts like this.
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This guy gets the tanned traitor:
http://kentsterling.com/2017/03/22/tom-crean-showed-multiple-weaknesses-by-failing-to-show-for-his-own-firing-iubb/
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This guy gets the tanned traitor:
http://kentsterling.com/2017/03/22/tom-crean-showed-multiple-weaknesses-by-failing-to-show-for-his-own-firing-iubb/
"He could have shown up for the meeting, looked athletic director Fred Glass in the eye, dared him to pull the trigger, and accepted the news like a man."
Man there are dumb arguments written by dumb sportswriters all the time, but this is really stupid. Criticizing the guy for not going to a meeting when you know they are going to fire you?
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This guy gets the tanned traitor:
http://kentsterling.com/2017/03/22/tom-crean-showed-multiple-weaknesses-by-failing-to-show-for-his-own-firing-iubb/
So that's why the administration found out Crean was leaving until it was on the news. Crean wanted to spare them the embarrassment.
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"He could have shown up for the meeting, looked athletic director Fred Glass in the eye, dared him to pull the trigger, and accepted the news like a man."
Man there are dumb arguments written by dumb sportswriters all the time, but this is really stupid. Criticizing the guy for not going to a meeting when you know they are going to fire you?
I disagree. Man up and show up for a meeting with the employer that's paid you very handsomely. Sign off on your COBRA benefits, turn in your key card and walk away with dignity intact.
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"He could have shown up for the meeting, looked athletic director Fred Glass in the eye, dared him to pull the trigger, and accepted the news like a man."
Man there are dumb arguments written by dumb sportswriters all the time, but this is really stupid. Criticizing the guy for not going to a meeting when you know they are going to fire you?
He suspected he was going to be fired; I wouldn't say he knew he was going to get fired. Maybe that's what the writing says on the wall, but he isn't a cashier at Wendy's. Act like a professional and show up for the damn meeting... mostly because if word gets out that you blew it off, it's not going to help your chances with potential future employers.
AD's put up with egos all the time provided that they will occasionally be checked at the door when the situation arises... apparently, Crean's ego follows him through every closed door like Tim on Jeronne.
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based upon the way he left MU---one of the most classless acts I have seen in the athletic arena---I think IU should have packed his things and left him a post it note on the door saying he was fired
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based upon the way he left MU---one of the most classless acts I have seen in the athletic arena---I think IU should have packed his things and left him a post it note on the door saying he was fired
Or just leak it to the media without telling him.
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+1000
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based upon the way he left MU---one of the most classless acts I have seen in the athletic arena---I think IU should have packed his things and left him a post it note on the door saying he was fired
You haven't seen much then.
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You haven't seen much then.
Yep.
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based upon the way he left MU---one of the most classless acts I have seen in the athletic arena---I think IU should have packed his things and left him a post it note on the door saying he was fired
Or send him a singing Telegram.
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Or send him a singing Telegram.
Ferris Bueller style!
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Ferris Bueller style!
Yeah, it reminds me of the Chicago Blackhawk coach who received a letters slipped under his door at Christmas (I think I got that Right)
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Ferris Bueller style!
Jane Wiedlin was a much better singing telegram.
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You haven't seen much then.
Actually, he's seen it all. Or better phrased, unfortunately he's seen it all.
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I disagree. Man up and show up for a meeting with the employer that's paid you very handsomely. Sign off on your COBRA benefits, turn in your key card and walk away with dignity intact.
Solid Larry, beautiful dude. In utter words, man up pussay, hey?
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Yeah, it reminds me of the Chicago Blackhawk coach who received a letters slipped under his door at Christmas (I think I got that Right)
Bill White in the 1970s
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Bill White in the 1970s
You're close.
From a story in the Trib... Billy Reay of the Chicago Blackhawks, who was fired just before Christmas 1976. He returned home at dawn on Dec. 22 from a road trip to find an envelope under his door informing him that his services were no longer needed.
Bill White replaced Billy Reay and finished out the season.
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Actually, he's seen it all. Or better phrased, unfortunately he's seen it all.
Lol, yup.
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Lol, yup.
every time i think i have seen it all, something worse walks through the door.
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Archie Miller to IU?
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"He could have shown up for the meeting, looked athletic director Fred Glass in the eye, dared him to pull the trigger, and accepted the news like a man."
Man there are dumb arguments written by dumb sportswriters all the time, but this is really stupid. Criticizing the guy for not going to a meeting when you know they are going to fire you?
Kent Sterling has shown in the past that he does not understand business, contracts, reality, etc.
“According to people to whom I have spoken in the athletic department, that graph [on LateNightHoops.com] is incorrect. The amount IU owes Crean for a buyout is $8M through 2015.I haven’t seen the contract with my own eyes, but believe the information to be correct.” –Kent Sterling, KentSterling.com
Doesn't do the work, and therefore gets stuff wrong. Most media is not good.
http://latenighthoops.com/additional-insight-on-tom-crean-and-his-contract-with-indiana/#.WNadtG8rLIU
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What about Archie Miller as the new IU coach?
Good job me!