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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: rocky_warrior on February 18, 2017, 09:31:26 PM

Title: Gottlieb
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 18, 2017, 09:31:26 PM
I know I'm supposed to be celebrating the awesome win (I am, and will, don't worriy), but had to complain about Gottlieb on TV.

Gottlieb is the biggest MU hater ever. Ridiculous. MU is up huge and he cant shut up about Macura.

Agreed.  He's the biggest MU hater.  And as a "young" guy (hah, not really) I didn't know why.  But on tonight's broadcast he revealed the reason.  His dad coached at UW-Milwaukee from 1975–1980.  I hadn't realized that (sorry, I was somewhere between 0-5 years old in that time).  But it does explain some of the animosity towards MU.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: wildbillsb on February 18, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
That ain't the only skeleton rattling in the closet
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: nyg on February 18, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
Got really bad when KR got the charge call.  Gottlieb kept saying it was a flop, yet when they showed replay, the player used his left arm to shove KR.  But Gottlieb continued saying it was a flop.  Could not believe it. 
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: ecompt on February 18, 2017, 09:37:08 PM
What a mind-numbing a-wipe he is. Obnoxious, overbearing clown.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 18, 2017, 09:37:32 PM
What a mind-numbing a-wipe he is. Obnoxious, overbearing clown.
What is his Scoop ID?
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 18, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
That ain't the only skeleton rattling in the closet

I know about the credit card fraud.  What else you got?

edit: Just noticed on wikipedia, after the CC stuff he looked at MU for his transfer.  Was there something else (he was snubbed?).
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 18, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
What is his Scoop ID?

Beautiful, just beautiful
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 18, 2017, 09:41:39 PM
Got really bad when KR got the charge call.  Gottlieb kept saying it was a flop, yet when they showed replay, the player used his left arm to shove KR.  But Gottlieb continued saying it was a flop.  Could not believe it.

Yep - obvious push off with the elbow...but Doug totally missed it....
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Loose Cannon on February 18, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
Yep - obvious push off with the elbow...but Doug totally missed it....

He didn't Miss it, it's the way he rolls.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: drewm88 on February 18, 2017, 09:46:00 PM
He talked over the game nonstop. It was awful.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 18, 2017, 09:49:54 PM
I know I'm supposed to be celebrating the awesome win (I am, and will, don't worriy), but had to complain about Gottlieb on TV.

Agreed.  He's the biggest MU hater.  And as a "young" guy (hah, not really) I didn't know why.  But on tonight's broadcast he revealed the reason.  His dad coached at UW-Milwaukee from 1975–1980.  I hadn't realized that (sorry, I was somewhere between 0-5 years old in that time).  But it does explain some of the animosity towards MU.

i still don't get the MU-hate when his dad never coached a team against us.  probably a good thing as we are 38-0 all time against them. 
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: WarriorHal on February 18, 2017, 09:52:38 PM
And when talking about Marquette history and Al, he said MU did "the unthinkable" in 1977. We were a top-10 program and a perennial contender for the national championship during that era. There was nothing unthinkable about it.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: T-Bone on February 18, 2017, 10:21:50 PM
And when talking about Marquette history and Al, he said MU did "the unthinkable" in 1977. We were a top-10 program and a perennial contender for the national championship during that era. There was nothing unthinkable about it.
Yeah, that one bothered me.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: dsfire on February 18, 2017, 10:28:53 PM
He may dislike MU, but I think sounding like he has a stick up his ass is just his general M.O. He's never seemed happy in anything I've seen him cover.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 18, 2017, 10:33:13 PM
Got really bad when KR got the charge call.  Gottlieb kept saying it was a flop, yet when they showed replay, the player used his left arm to shove KR.  But Gottlieb continued saying it was a flop.  Could not believe it.

Katin gets the easy flops.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: amen426 on February 18, 2017, 10:36:19 PM
To be fair, he hates the Badgers as well. So it's not all bad.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: wadesworld on February 18, 2017, 10:48:44 PM
He hates pretty much everyone.  It's what he does.  Nobody is ever good enough for him and his incredible self.

Does anyone know where I can see the replay of the game?  Forgot to set the DVR and was at the game.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: chapman on February 18, 2017, 10:49:30 PM
This many posts in a Gottlieb thread on Scoop without the meme being dropped?



Gottlieb is a tool.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: mileskishnish72 on February 18, 2017, 10:51:12 PM
Unthinkable, my ass.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: MU86NC on February 18, 2017, 11:27:52 PM
Tool time
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 18, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
I thought Gottlieb was on point the whole night.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: MU82 on February 18, 2017, 11:32:14 PM
Watched it at a bar with a nice-sized MU Charlotte contingent. Didn't hear one second of Gottlieb's commentary, and that's the way (uh-huh uh-huh) I like it (uh-huh uh-huh).
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 18, 2017, 11:33:37 PM
670 The Score is owned by CBS and every few commercial breaks they have a CBS sports minute done by the national guys including Gotlieb.

They are funny because he is clearly reading from a script and pauses after every other word. 
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: lurch91 on February 19, 2017, 08:26:37 AM
Watched the game on DVR this morning.  Gottlieb also stated that during the NCAA Championship season that Al only attended 15ish practics all season.  That Al let Raymonds and Majerus run the practices and team.  No idea how true that is.....
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: wildbillsb on February 19, 2017, 08:38:00 AM
I know about the credit card fraud.  What else you got?

edit: Just noticed on wikipedia, after the CC stuff he looked at MU for his transfer.  Was there something else (he was snubbed?).

That's to what I was referring.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: shoothoops on February 19, 2017, 08:39:15 AM
Gottlieb is a contrarian, argumentative, and likes some teams more than others. He seems overly interested in making a big point and then spending long periods pointing look see I was right. This of course detracts from the game itself which is his purpose for being there. He isn't positive often enough...this is basketball afterall.  And he doesn't understand flow of the game for a televised event.  There are plenty of bad play by play announcers, plenty of bad analysts, but also some good ones, and average ones.  I am sure every school thinks he hates their school because he often does not seem to like things more than he dislikes them.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Sheriff on February 19, 2017, 09:34:22 AM
What is his Scoop ID?

Voguely familiar
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 19, 2017, 09:36:25 AM
I thought the standard Scoop response is supposed to be that "Gottlieb is a tool."
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: brandx on February 19, 2017, 09:56:49 AM
I know I'm supposed to be celebrating the awesome win (I am, and will, don't worriy), but had to complain about Gottlieb on TV.

Agreed.  He's the biggest MU hater.  And as a "young" guy (hah, not really) I didn't know why.  But on tonight's broadcast he revealed the reason.  His dad coached at UW-Milwaukee from 1975–1980.  I hadn't realized that (sorry, I was somewhere between 0-5 years old in that time).  But it does explain some of the animosity towards MU.

His dad was just as jerky as the kid. Easy to understand why he is like he is.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: GoldenZebra on February 19, 2017, 11:57:35 AM
He is a hack. Spent about 2-3 minutes talking about Macura's recruiting history than he did about the game itself. Does anyone really need to know Macura visited 30+ schools with his dad blah blah blah blah. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Gato78 on February 19, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Watched the game on DVR this morning.  Gottlieb also stated that during the NCAA Championship season that Al only attended 15ish practics all season.  That Al let Raymonds and Majerus run the practices and team.  No idea how true that is.....

Pretty much true that Al bagged a lot of practices that year though I am pretty sure Al was at more than 15 practices.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on February 20, 2017, 12:15:04 PM
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/830851242343665666
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: wadesworld on February 20, 2017, 12:17:31 PM
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/830851242343665666

Oh dear God.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: The Lens on February 20, 2017, 12:46:36 PM
DG was recruited by Deane after ND.  He even came on a recruiting visit here.  Chose Okla State instead. 
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Marcus92 on February 20, 2017, 12:50:50 PM
Oh dear God.

I thought the same about Skip Bayless moving to Fox, but I've had no problem simply avoiding his program.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 20, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
670 The Score is owned by CBS and every few commercial breaks they have a CBS sports minute done by the national guys including Gotlieb.

They are funny because he is clearly reading from a script and pauses after every other word.

Those are all pretty brutal...and yet Gotlieb is still noticeably bad.

When he calls game, he's not interested in providing insights. He's interested creating "controversy" and trying to show everyone how smart he is.

Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: We R Final Four on February 20, 2017, 01:33:37 PM
When referring to the Rowsey pump fake/draw the foul DG said "the refs will make that call.......they shouldn't, but they do."

? If AR is fouled during the shot and the shot blocker runs into him--even though it was intentional.......it's still a foul DG.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: wadesworld on February 20, 2017, 01:36:45 PM
When referring to the Rowsey pump fake/draw the foul DG said "the refs will make that call.......they shouldn't, but they do."

? If AR is fouled during the shot and the shot blocker runs into him--even though it was intentional.......it's still a foul DG.

Right.  There's a difference between when a player gets a defender in the air but has to jump forward into that defender to draw contact, and a player baiting a defender to jump into him while he's in his shooting motion.  Rowsey is really good at differentiating between the two.  Most of the time the defender is jumping out into Rowsey because Rowsey is such a threat to hit a shot from anywhere.  When the defender actually does go straight up Rowsey has been good at passing out of it.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Benny B on February 20, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
Right.  There's a difference between when a player gets a defender in the air but has to jump forward into that defender to draw contact, and a player baiting a defender to jump into him while he's in his shooting motion.  Rowsey is really good at differentiating between the two.  Most of the time the defender is jumping out into Rowsey because Rowsey is such a threat to hit a shot from anywhere.  When the defender actually does go straight up Rowsey has been good at passing out of it.

This.  Rowsey has mastered the play.  I'm almost convinced that the only chance someone has at defending against him is to either faceguard or never jump... not sure the former will do much good as MU has other weapons on the perimeter, but at least the latter has a chance to throw him off his game when the defender does exactly what Rowsey's not expecting him to do.  Or maybe he just takes the shot and proves to be completely unstoppable.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Marcus92 on February 20, 2017, 02:07:47 PM
It's amazing how many times Rowsey gets defenders to bite on his fake, even though they know it's coming. I'd love to see metrics on this. Seems like he's drawn more fouls this way than the rest of the team combined.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: Herman Cain on February 20, 2017, 08:25:54 PM
Gottlieb is no Steven Bardo.
Title: Re: Gottlieb
Post by: warriorchick on February 20, 2017, 08:40:37 PM
It's amazing how many times Rowsey gets defenders to bite on his fake, even though they know it's coming. I'd love to see metrics on this. Seems like he's drawn more fouls this way than the rest of the team combined.

At the Xavier game he took as many free throws as the rest of the team combined.

He's as good at drawing fouls on 3-point shots as Jae Crowder was drawing charges.