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Title: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: ecompt on January 20, 2017, 05:31:54 PM
probably would have been double digits had Bluejays not lost their PG.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: JD on January 20, 2017, 05:35:09 PM
I'd definitely take -6.5

Can MU win, absolutely, but I don't see it happening away.  Fischer will get devoured tomorrow.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: MuMark on January 20, 2017, 08:33:18 PM
Opened at 9....now 5 or 5 1/2
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: brewcity77 on January 20, 2017, 09:00:07 PM
Probably end up wrong, but expecting a close first half, then we pull away late. Just think losing their point guard will be too much.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 20, 2017, 09:13:07 PM
I'd definitely take -6.5

Can MU win, absolutely, but I don't see it happening away.  Fischer will get devoured tomorrow.

Over/Under on time left in the game when he gets his fifth foul?

I say 2:45.

Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: ecompt on January 20, 2017, 09:45:58 PM
Over/Under on time left in the game when he gets his fifth foul?

I say 2:45.

Over. 4:11.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: The Lens on January 20, 2017, 09:52:40 PM
I think this will be like when we lost Jerel.  We beat Pitt at home but then team's scouted us and we wilted down stretch.  I'm expecting Creighton by double digits.  6.5 is  a gift to gamblers.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: wadesworld on January 20, 2017, 10:04:40 PM
Would put money down on Creighton.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Eye on January 21, 2017, 05:57:02 AM
I don't do this much, but I'd lay the 6 1/2 with CU today.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: SuddenSam on January 21, 2017, 07:06:45 AM
I don't bet against MU even if seems easy money, but would give the pts. here.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 21, 2017, 09:41:24 AM
What's weird here is most prognosticators have MU covering 5 1/2- 6 but losing BUT, they are not mentioning the season ending injury to Maurice Watson.  Many were predicting creighton to have final 4 potential before his injury. A huge playmaker leading the nation I believe in assists per game at around 8.5-8.8 and  averaging 13.5 ppg.  Tough place to play though. We would have to play mistake free

Wow, if there is ever a game we need to steal is this one on the road boys, but but but...
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: DUNKS45 on January 21, 2017, 09:46:56 AM
If would could just get over the hump here and take advantage of Watson being out, we have to get a signature road win. This is a very tough place to play, we need to finish.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 21, 2017, 09:51:23 AM
If would could just get over the hump here and take advantage of Watson being out, we have to get a signature road win. This is a very tough place to play, we need to finish.

This is key in my mind -- you never know how soft the bubble will be but building a better portfolio of 'good wins' is key at this point - need to make a statement. 

Our best win right now is Georgia at KenPom 43...so another bubble/bottom of the field type team IMO.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 10:02:01 AM
Take Creighton, give the points.     94-80.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: muguru on January 21, 2017, 11:18:26 AM
Even if MU wins, you wonder by the end of the season how much this win would be devalued because of Creighton not having Watson. It would be a good win, no doubt about it, but the "great" win it would be with Watson?? It depends on how Creighton finishes because they will be judged by the team that they are now(without Watson).
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 21, 2017, 11:28:54 AM
Even if MU wins, you wonder by the end of the season how much this win would be devalued because of Creighton not having Watson. It would be a good win, no doubt about it, but the "great" win it would be with Watson?? It depends on how Creighton finishes because they will be judged by the team that they are now(without Watson).

Ah, I see.  Marquette probably won't win.  But even if they do, it's not a great win.  You're all primed for disappointment after the game!

Lets get a W boys.  They're better than L's.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 21, 2017, 11:51:25 AM
Probably end up wrong, but expecting a close first half, then we pull away late. Just think losing their point guard will be too much.

You nailed it Monday so hope you're right again.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 21, 2017, 12:04:00 PM
KPom has us losing by 9 so Vegas has discounted Watson's injury 2.5.  MU needs to balance usage...JJJ (29.2) in particular is way too high.  Haani, Sam, Andrew, Katin and Luke need more of the shots.  Balance

Oh, and play some team defense.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Jay Bee on January 21, 2017, 12:09:13 PM
Second best shooting team in America... just lost their worst shooter. Should be interesting...

18 & 12 from Patton?

KPom has us losing by 9 so Vegas has discounted Watson's injury 2.5.  MU needs to balance usage...JJJ (29.2) in particular is way too high.  Haani, Sam, Andrew, Katin and Luke need more of the shots.  Balance

While I agree with Haani, Sam & Luke needing more shots.... usage don't be equalling %Shots, aina?

Rowsey is at 24% already.. Katin at 22%... me not sure on them re: needing more of the shots. JjJ at 27%. M2N at 33%!!!

But, yeah.. Haani at 14.4%, Luke at 14.6%.. super low. Sam at 18.0%... would be fine with a little lift there as well.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 21, 2017, 12:15:45 PM
Second best shooting team in America... just lost their worst shooter. Should be interesting...

18 & 12 from Patton?

How much of that shooting has to do with wide open shots or layups after Watson drives? My guess is quite a bit.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Jay Bee on January 21, 2017, 12:18:39 PM
How much of that shooting has to do with wide open shots or layups after Watson drives? My guess is quite a bit.

Tons.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 21, 2017, 12:24:41 PM
Second best shooting team in America... just lost their worst shooter. Should be interesting...

18 & 12 from Patton?

While I agree with Haani, Sam & Luke needing more shots.... usage don't be equalling %Shots, right?

Rowsey is at 24% already.. Katin at 22%... me not sure on them re: needing more of the shots. JjJ at 27%. M2N at 33%!!!

But, yeah.. Haani at 14.4%, Luke at 14.6%.. super low. Sam at 18.0%... would be fine with a little lift there as well.

Looking at conference games.  The offense has stalled when JjJ receives the ball as he goes 1:1. 29% usage, 27% shots, and 25.2 TO rate ending in a 92.8 ORating.  Share it and drop the Hero Ball mentality.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Herman Cain on January 21, 2017, 12:27:33 PM
I think this is going to be a high scoring 3 point contest. We have a good chance at winning because we have a lot of strong 3 point shooters. I think the keys will be for Sam's shots to go in early and for JJJ to drive well early, which will open things up for the shooters.

Creighton will still be a tough team to beat on the road, however we have the ability to silence the crowd.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 21, 2017, 12:32:00 PM
Anyone have a stream thats not on firstrowsports?
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Newsdreams on January 21, 2017, 12:52:29 PM
Matt got a nice seat
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/822861179030798337
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Newsdreams on January 21, 2017, 12:54:24 PM
Anyone have a stream thats not on firstrowsports?
The one Rocky put up in the chat room for Butler was really good, but I'm on thr phone so don't have the link check the chat history
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on January 21, 2017, 01:05:32 PM
Anyone have a stream thats not on firstrowsports?

Isn't it on Fox nationally?
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on January 21, 2017, 01:09:22 PM
I wonder what the over under would be on Patton today? I'd be somewhat shocked if he doesn't lead all scorers today. To me, he's the biggest obstacle (quite literally) to overcome.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 21, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
Isn't it on Fox nationally?

Fox has this nasty habit of having really strict regional locks. I should really invest in a VPN.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: forgetful on January 21, 2017, 01:23:33 PM
I wonder what the over under would be on Patton today? I'd be somewhat shocked if he doesn't lead all scorers today. To me, he's the biggest obstacle (quite literally) to overcome.

I wouldn't be shocked to see him put up 30 and 15. 
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: Newsdreams on January 21, 2017, 01:25:58 PM
This is crazy
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/822885891240644609
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on January 21, 2017, 02:55:07 PM
I wouldn't be shocked to see him put up 30 and 15.

Well...
Fortunately it looks like we are very wrong about this one so far.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 03:00:34 PM
Just wait
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2017, 03:06:20 PM
I wonder what the over under would be on Patton today? I'd be somewhat shocked if he doesn't lead all scorers today. To me, he's the biggest obstacle (quite literally) to overcome.

Good call. Patton getting absolutely worked.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on January 21, 2017, 03:12:54 PM
Hard to score if you aren't on the floor. Glad Luke came out from the rock he was living under.
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2017, 04:04:56 PM
Hard to score if you aren't on the floor. Glad Luke came out from the rock he was living under.

Wow. And tell me, why wasn't he on the floor?
Title: Re: 6.5 dogs at Creighton...
Post by: wadesworld on January 21, 2017, 04:18:21 PM
Glad to be wrong.  I think I'll bite the bullet and bet against MU every game...