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Title: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jesmu84 on December 05, 2016, 08:30:27 PM
https://marquettewire.org/3961974/sports/sandy-cohen-moves-on/
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 08:42:23 PM
This demonstrates what I have been saying for sometime. That being Wojo does not have these kids back and they know it. It is shameful that  a quality young man like Sandy did not to have a relationship with any coach on the team .
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: JD on December 05, 2016, 08:44:05 PM
Yeah, the town of Seymour really has some rough parts..

I don't understand the logic behind him transferring due to him being able to play maybe a semester or a year if he takes next year off as well.

Why not earn a degree from Marquette instead of Green Bay? I don't think professional basketball is going to be an option.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: real chili 83 on December 05, 2016, 08:47:31 PM
This demonstrates what I have been saying for sometime. That being Wojo does not have these kids back and they know it. It is shameful that  a quality young man like Sandy did not to have a relationship with any coach on the team .

Ners, do you really believe this?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2016, 08:48:35 PM
Yeah, the town of Seymour really has some rough parts..

Do you know anything about the city?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2016, 08:48:55 PM
This demonstrates what I have been saying for sometime. That being Wojo does not have these kids back and they know it. It is shameful that  a quality young man like Sandy did not to have a relationship with any coach on the team .

...according to him.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: real chili 83 on December 05, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Do you know anything about the city?

Home of the hamburger.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 08:50:56 PM
...according to him.
He is the best source .
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2016, 08:55:10 PM
He is the best source .


Yes.  But he is also a biased one.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: real chili 83 on December 05, 2016, 08:56:40 PM
Sultan, why engage?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jsglow on December 05, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
This demonstrates what I have been saying for sometime. That being Wojo does not have these kids back and they know it. It is shameful that  a quality young man like Sandy did not to have a relationship with any coach on the team .

Hey non-alum. This is big time college basketball.  Sandy was the 11th best man on his team. Minutes aren't handed out like this is the YMCA.  I'm only sorry that he didn't figure this out before the season started.  He was welcome to stay, get his college education paid for,  and cheer next to Marotta.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
Sultan, why engage?


Because I just get tired of this dude acting like he is some sort of inside, knowledgeable expert only to go strangely silent when evidence completely contradicts what he is saying.

Look, Sandy might be right.  Or he might simply feel that way and Wojo would tell another side to the story.  Really we don't know.  At least I can acknowledge that.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Jay Bee on December 05, 2016, 09:06:52 PM
"No one ever talks to me."
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jsglow on December 05, 2016, 09:13:38 PM
"No one ever talks to me."

There are reasons for that JB!  ;D
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: real chili 83 on December 05, 2016, 09:14:25 PM

Because I just get tired of this dude acting like he is some sort of inside, knowledgeable expert only to go strangely silent when evidence completely contradicts what he is saying.

Look, Sandy might be right.  Or he might simply feel that way and Wojo would tell another side to the story.  Really we don't know.  At least I can acknowledge that.

Appreciate.  MUFINY has zero credibility. Period.  Don't feed trolls. Contribute to the smoked meat threads instead. 
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: JD on December 05, 2016, 09:14:41 PM
Do you know anything about the city?

I do. Grew up 10 minutes away.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: ecompt on December 05, 2016, 09:26:22 PM
Sandy seems like a nice kid and I hope he does well wherever he winds up. He simply wasn't a Big-East-Conference-level player. No disgrace.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 09:27:20 PM

Yes.  But he is also a biased one.
He is the only source that matters.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 09:29:45 PM
Hey non-alum. This is big time college basketball.  Sandy was the 11th best man on his team. Minutes aren't handed out like this is the YMCA.  I'm only sorry that he didn't figure this out before the season started.  He was welcome to stay, get his college education paid for,  and cheer next to Marotta.
Sandy was good enough to displace an All Big East Rookie and cause him to transfer. Wojo is a guy who uses kids and disposes of them when he no longer needs them.

I have more experience in D1 athletics than probably 99 percent of this board and I can tell You I know a snake when I see one.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: real chili 83 on December 05, 2016, 09:30:34 PM
Oh, really???
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: lohaus on December 05, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
I don't understand the logic behind him transferring due to him being able to play maybe a semester or a year if he takes next year off as well.

Why not earn a degree from Marquette instead of Green Bay? I don't think professional basketball is going to be an option.

Ummm, because he wasn't happy and didn't want to stay somewhere he wasn't happy for another 1 1/2 years.  I get it. Go somewhere he can compete.  He will have a full year to focus on improving and academics.  Somewhere he will feel like he belongs.

Then he will have a full year to play and wrap up his degree.  The only mistake was not transferring 4 games earlier.  Even then though he can have 2 full academic years.  Good luck to him and I will still be a fan.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2016, 09:38:11 PM
This demonstrates what I have been saying for sometime. That being Wojo does not have these kids back and they know it. It is shameful that  a quality young man like Sandy did not to have a relationship with any coach on the team .

Read the article twice. Read Cohen's quotes three times. I see nothing to support your thesis.

He wasn't good enough so he was recruited over. That's college athletics. It happens in just about every major program.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 09:39:57 PM
Read the article twice. Read Cohen's quotes three times. I see nothing to support your thesis.

He wasn't good enough so he was recruited over. That's college athletics. It happens in just about every major program.
Read his guardian quotes. Your a former journalism guy you know how the game is played.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
He is the only source that matters.


No.  That is where you are wrong.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2016, 09:48:06 PM
Sandy was good enough to displace an All Big East Rookie and cause him to transfer.


That is Grade A pure bullsh*t right there.  On multiple levels.

I would say "you're better than that," but you really aren't.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 05, 2016, 09:54:17 PM
[Sandy] is the only source that matters.

Cohen said. “I love everybody at Marquette, coaches and everything.”

Read his guardian quotes.

Who cares.  They don't matter, according to you.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2016, 10:03:25 PM
Read his guardian quotes. Your a former journalism guy you know how the game is played.

I have more experience in journalism than probably 99.99999 percent of this board and I can tell you I know exactly how the game is played ... and you're playing it wrong.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jsglow on December 05, 2016, 10:07:44 PM
I remember a discussion regarding Wally's departure last spring.  Folks were on both sides of the discussion and had credible points.  Sandy was mired at the end of the bench.  Tough toenails.  If he wanted to stay Wojo would have certainly renewed his scholarship so he could finish his college career assuming Sandy was still doing all that was asked of him as a D1 athlete.  Sandy chose another path and Wojo shook his hand on the way out the door.

End of story.  Happens every day.  This isn't daycare.

By the way, I look to the left as I type this and there's a pic of Sammy with his perfect jumpshot form.  Let's put him on the bench so a kid who is getting his top notch college education paid for doesn't have hurt feelings.  Yeah, let's do that.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Loose Cannon on December 05, 2016, 10:08:11 PM
He is the only source that matters.

You might want to reread what you wrote, then there's no other side to be heard.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MuMark on December 05, 2016, 10:14:24 PM
Sandy was good enough to displace an All Big East Rookie and cause him to transfer. Wojo is a guy who uses kids and disposes of them when he no longer needs them.

I have more experience in D1 athletics than probably 99 percent of this board and I can tell You I know a snake when I see one.

You really are an idiot. Brueswitz said the same thing about Bo Ryan.....he was there for 4 years and had no relationship with him. Both Crean and Buzz had guys who couldn't wait to get away from them...they also had guys that loved them. Ditto for KO......

Grow up.

He wanted to play.... if he was playing he wouldn't have left.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: wadesworld on December 05, 2016, 10:39:10 PM
He is the only source that matters.

Who is the only source that matters?  You're reading a quote from his former coach.  Did you even read the quote that Sandy had?

"I love everybody at Marquette, coaches and everything. I just had to make the best decision for me. … Being a junior and not being able to play much is not really what I envisioned and not really what I thought would happen. It pretty much comes down to playing time.”

Uhh...let me repeat that.

"I love everybody at Marquette, coaches and everything. I just had to make the best decision for me. … Being a junior and not being able to play much is not really what I envisioned and not really what I thought would happen. It pretty much comes down to playing time.

Hmm.  He loves the coaches everybody at Marquette, coaches.  Hmm.  Loves them...but they don't talk to him and he doesn't have a relationship with him.  Hmm...

Oh, and the bit about it "pretty much" coming down to playing time.  Hmm...

You're an idiot.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Loose Cannon on December 05, 2016, 10:47:27 PM
Who is the only source that matters?  You're reading a quote from his former coach.  Did you even read the quote that Sandy had?

"I love everybody at Marquette, coaches and everything. I just had to make the best decision for me. … Being a junior and not being able to play much is not really what I envisioned and not really what I thought would happen. It pretty much comes down to playing time.”

Uhh...let me repeat that.

"I love everybody at Marquette, coaches and everything. I just had to make the best decision for me. … Being a junior and not being able to play much is not really what I envisioned and not really what I thought would happen. It pretty much comes down to playing time.

Hmm.  He loves the coaches everybody at Marquette, coaches.  Hmm.  Loves them...but they don't talk to him and he doesn't have a relationship with him.  Hmm...

Oh, and the bit about it "pretty much" coming down to playing time.  Hmm...

You're an idiot.

Reading some of MUFNY Posts remind me of what Elaine called Cramer.

"You're a Hipster Dufuss"
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jesmu84 on December 05, 2016, 11:26:26 PM
This demonstrates what I have been saying for sometime. That being Wojo does not have these kids back and they know it. It is shameful that  a quality young man like Sandy did not to have a relationship with any coach on the team .

Interesting. Didn't you, just in the last 24 hours, post a link to the story where wojo challenged JJJ and you liked the move? This after calling wojo a de motivator?

I posted this story knowing full well you'd jump all over it. Be more transparent, you can't.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: fjm on December 05, 2016, 11:30:31 PM
I'm
Sorry. Did someone say something about a smoked meats thread somewhere!? Am I missing something!?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: HoopsterBC on December 06, 2016, 12:16:45 AM
As I have said before, having 13 players on scholarship means 3-4 people every year will not be happy.  Once in awhile you can take a project.  Even having 11 good
players on the team it is very hard to keep them all happy.  Duane hopefully is buying in as I have to believe he starts next year.   Sam and Markus are exceptional
frosh, who deserve playing time.  You have to earn it on the court and they have.  It just means the other players have to work harder in practice.  Working hard in
practice makes everybody better.  Sandy was given more than enough chances, not good enough, bottom line.  Hope he goes to GB and has a great year in 2 years.

Now about coaches,  do you think the players loved Al McGuire, how many kids wanted to transfer during his years,  He only played 7 maybe, the others learned how
to clap.  Randy Wade was better than Allie, tough sh-t, Wade transferred.  George Frazier stayed, he was not a happy camper about Allie as well.  Jim Dudley, I think
hated Al,  probably Bill Neary as well.  The best story was Al telling Hank to take Craig Butrym out of a game, he was playing to good.  Oh well.  It happens on every
team in America if you are recruiting high end talent. 

Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on December 06, 2016, 12:35:46 AM
The fact that Sandy agreed to be interviewed for this article is evidence that he is getting advice from the wrong people. He should have at least stuck out this season.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: HoopsterBC on December 06, 2016, 12:43:40 AM
The fact that Sandy agreed to be interviewed for this article is evidence that he is getting advice from the wrong people. He should have at least stuck out this season.

Agreed, but will get 2 more years of college for free, not a bad gig if you can get it.  Use basketball, not let basketball use him.  Get your degree and hopefully masters
degree, he can then go to Europe and play a little if he wants.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on December 06, 2016, 12:50:26 AM
Agreed, but will get 2 more years of college for free, not a bad gig if you can get it.  Use basketball, not let basketball use him.  Get your degree and hopefully masters
degree, he can then go to Europe and play a little if he wants.

I agree, but he skill could have played 25 more games this year and sat out next season for the same outcome (unless he's really transferring to play one semester of basketball at his next school.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: #UnleashSean on December 06, 2016, 02:43:21 AM
This argument about Cohen saying he didn't feel like he was talked to enough/ignored etc. is completely stupid and pointless. There is only one person's whose opinion matters in a situation like this. That's Cohen's. If he felt like he wasn't being talked to enough. Then he wasn't talked to enough. If thats what caused him to leave, then thats what caused him to leave. Even if Wojo called him every 5 hours it wouldn't matter. If he felt like he wasn't being paid enough attention, then thats the end of the discussion. Maybe him and his next coach will have a telepathic link or something.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 06, 2016, 05:43:02 AM
sandy was a good "get" at the time.  was a stud in seymour.  appeared to be fitting in as expected his freshman year, then stalled while others passed him by.  wojo gave him plenty of opportunities, but when one is also fighting to get this team back to the dance while the fans and administration is getting restless, you need the right personnel. not enough trophies or ribbons to go around at this level.  also, we don't have the ability to see him in practice as well
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: wadesworld on December 06, 2016, 07:11:22 AM
sandy was a good "get" at the time.  was a stud in seymour.  appeared to be fitting in as expected his freshman year, then stalled while others passed him by.  wojo gave him plenty of opportunities, but when one is also fighting to get this team back to the dance while the fans and administration is getting restless, you need the right personnel. not enough trophies or ribbons to go around at this level.  also, we don't have the ability to see him in practice as well

Yup.  And ultimately it was Sandy's decision...which he mentions himself!  He realized he had been passed up and he decided to move on.  It sounds like both parties are better off but both are thankful for the opportunity they each had in this relationship.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2016, 08:35:47 AM
Agreed, but will get 2 more years of college for free, not a bad gig if you can get it.  Use basketball, not let basketball use him.  Get your degree and hopefully masters
degree, he can then go to Europe and play a little if he wants.


Actually that isn't accurate.  He is only getting four years of college paid for by transferring at semester - and transferring after five semesters into a new school makes it tougher to put together something to graduate in three more.  If he would have stayed for the entire year, he would have gotten five years.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: HoopsterBC on December 06, 2016, 08:54:51 AM

Actually that isn't accurate.  He is only getting four years of college paid for by transferring at semester - and transferring after five semesters into a new school makes it tougher to put together something to graduate in three more.  If he would have stayed for the entire year, he would have gotten five years.

If that is the case, Cohen should have sucked it up and stayed at MU!
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: lessthannick11 on December 06, 2016, 09:11:12 AM
Jeff Goodman ✔ @GoodmanESPN
Marquette transfer Sandy Cohen will play at Green Bay, source told ESPN. Eligible middle of next season.
7:48 AM - 6 Dec 2016
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: wadesworld on December 06, 2016, 09:11:44 AM

Actually that isn't accurate.  He is only getting four years of college paid for by transferring at semester - and transferring after five semesters into a new school makes it tougher to put together something to graduate in three more.  If he would have stayed for the entire year, he would have gotten five years.

I was wondering how this worked.  I assume Sandy's entire fall semester is paid for by his athletic scholarship at Marquette.  If he commits to, say, UWGB and is enrolled there for the spring semester I also assume that the spring semester is paid in full by his basketball scholarship from UWGB?  Unless they are full and he is aware of the fact that he needs to be a walk on (sitting out for transferring) for his spring semester and then on scholarship next year when something opens up there.  If he decides to sit out all of next year to get a full season to play, would he then get 2.5 years of scholarship from UWGB following his 2.5 from MU?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2016, 09:15:44 AM
I was wondering how this worked.  I assume Sandy's entire fall semester is paid for by his athletic scholarship at Marquette.  If he commits to, say, UWGB and is enrolled there for the spring semester I also assume that the spring semester is paid in full by his basketball scholarship from UWGB?  Unless they are full and he is aware of the fact that he needs to be a walk on (sitting out for transferring) for his spring semester and then on scholarship next year when something opens up there.  If he decides to sit out all of next year to get a full season to play, would he then get 2.5 years of scholarship from UWGB following his 2.5 from MU?

Perhaps.  I'm not sure.  I don't think I have ever heard of a mid-year transfer sitting out three semesters to play another two. 
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Da 'Lanche on December 06, 2016, 10:01:38 AM
I'm rooting for Sandy.    Seems like a good kid who just wants to play basketball.    It also is a tale that gives a peek into some of the challenges and difficulties in major programs and in lives of  recruits.  Sandy gets recruited by Buzz to a high-major program that has seen a window of success and must be flattered and thrilled as his dream is to play major D-1 (which it sounds like even surprised him a bit).   Buzz then leaves and the program is in turmoil (who knows...maybe if Buzz  stayed the same outcome for Sandy would have happened and he would have left...happened fairly regularly with Buzz).    Wojo comes in and at that point, hell, Sandy probably was one of his best guards but he absolutely needed bodies to get through his first year.    Wojo starts recruiting upgraded talent to fit his vision for the program and Sandy gets left behind in terms of minutes, contribution, etc. as he simply is not good enough at this level to displace the guys on the court.  It happens.   So, he wants to transfer (and MU was not his dream school according to him...playing D-1 hoops was his dream) and does...to hopefully find a place he can play, contribute and feel fulfilled.    I hope he does...I am openly rooting he does....by all signs he has overcome some difficulties in life and is motivated by the right things...just wasn't a fit here for what he wants to do and he moved on.   To blame Wojo for recruiting the best talent to the program is a plus...that is what he is getting paid to do.

I thought the article brought out the good in both parties...given the chaos and changing  dynamic of the program during the transition  and the renewed expectations for success...I would say this was fairly predictable and now both can move on...and I believe with integrity.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on December 06, 2016, 10:02:34 AM
I live 20 miles from Seymour where Sandy excelled in high school.sports.  I was excited to see him go to Marquette.  He looked good out of the gate and then faltered both years during Big East play.  I believe he gave it his best and the coaches worked hard with him, but he just couldn't dominate in the Big East.  I hope he does well at UW-GB.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Badgerhater on December 06, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
I would like to see the NCAA adjust the eligibility rules from play a single minute in a single game to something like play less than X minutes in the first X games.

John Dawson lost a whole year of eligibility when he played only 4 minutes in the first game (sitting in 7 more) before getting PoleAxed (10 mpg in previous season under Buzz).
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2016, 10:09:27 AM
I would like to see the NCAA adjust the eligibility rules from play a single minute in a single game to something like play less than X minutes in the first X games.

John Dawson lost a whole year of eligibility when he played only 4 minutes in the first game (sitting in 7 more) before getting PoleAxed (10 mpg in previous season under Buzz).


I guess I would be OK with this, but the simple solution would be for players not to transfer at semester.  John, Deonte, and now Sandy, wasted an entire year of eligibility because they didn't want to tough it out for another few months.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 06, 2016, 10:09:46 AM
I'm rooting for Sandy.    Seems like a good kid who just wants to play basketball.    It also is a tale that gives a peek into some of the challenges and difficulties in major programs and in lives of  recruits.  Sandy gets recruited by Buzz to a high-major program that has seen a window of success and must be flattered and thrilled as his dream is to play major D-1 (which it sounds like even surprised him a bit).   Buzz then leaves and the program is in turmoil (who knows...maybe if Buzz  stayed the same outcome for Sandy would have happened and he would have left...happened fairly regularly with Buzz).    Wojo comes in and at that point, hell, Sandy probably was one of his best guards but he absolutely needed bodies to get through his first year.    Wojo starts recruiting upgraded talent to fit his vision for the program and Sandy gets left behind in terms of minutes, contribution, etc. as he simply is not good enough at this level to displace the guys on the court.  It happens.   So, he wants to transfer (and MU was not his dream school according to him...playing D-1 hoops was his dream) and does...to hopefully find a place he can play, contribute and feel fulfilled.    I hope he does...I am openly rooting he does....by all signs he has overcome some difficulties in life and is motivated by the right things...just wasn't a fit here for what he wants to do and he moved on.   To blame Wojo for recruiting the best talent to the program is a plus...that is what he is getting paid to do.

I thought the article brought out the good in both parties...given the chaos and changing  dynamic of the program during the transition  and the renewed expectations for success...I would say this was fairly predictable and now both can move on...and I believe with integrity.

+1
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MU82 on December 06, 2016, 10:27:19 AM
I'm rooting for Sandy.    Seems like a good kid who just wants to play basketball.    It also is a tale that gives a peek into some of the challenges and difficulties in major programs and in lives of  recruits.  Sandy gets recruited by Buzz to a high-major program that has seen a window of success and must be flattered and thrilled as his dream is to play major D-1 (which it sounds like even surprised him a bit).   Buzz then leaves and the program is in turmoil (who knows...maybe if Buzz  stayed the same outcome for Sandy would have happened and he would have left...happened fairly regularly with Buzz).    Wojo comes in and at that point, hell, Sandy probably was one of his best guards but he absolutely needed bodies to get through his first year.    Wojo starts recruiting upgraded talent to fit his vision for the program and Sandy gets left behind in terms of minutes, contribution, etc. as he simply is not good enough at this level to displace the guys on the court.  It happens.   So, he wants to transfer (and MU was not his dream school according to him...playing D-1 hoops was his dream) and does...to hopefully find a place he can play, contribute and feel fulfilled.    I hope he does...I am openly rooting he does....by all signs he has overcome some difficulties in life and is motivated by the right things...just wasn't a fit here for what he wants to do and he moved on.   To blame Wojo for recruiting the best talent to the program is a plus...that is what he is getting paid to do.

I thought the article brought out the good in both parties...given the chaos and changing  dynamic of the program during the transition  and the renewed expectations for success...I would say this was fairly predictable and now both can move on...and I believe with integrity.

Well-done synopsis, Lanche.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MUBigDance on December 06, 2016, 10:32:20 AM
Sandy seems like a nice kid and I hope he does well wherever he winds up. He simply wasn't a Big-East-Conference-level player. No disgrace.

I agree with this.

Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Eldon on December 06, 2016, 10:45:07 AM
I would like to see the NCAA adjust the eligibility rules from play a single minute in a single game to something like play less than X minutes in the first X games.

John Dawson lost a whole year of eligibility when he played only 4 minutes in the first game (sitting in 7 more) before getting PoleAxed (10 mpg in previous season under Buzz).

Did he really though?  I thought I remember reading (on Scoop) that he appealed and the NCAA granted it,i.e., treat it as though he didn't play those four minutes.  Did I dream that?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: connie on December 06, 2016, 10:50:32 AM
I'm
Sorry. Did someone say something about a smoked meats thread somewhere!? Am I missing something!?

I have been curing and smoking my own bacon lately.  One bad experience with too much salt in the cure (or too much cure for the pork belly), but the others have been pretty spectacular.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Benny B on December 06, 2016, 11:03:16 AM

I guess I would be OK with this, but the simple solution would be for players not to transfer at semester.  John, Deonte, and now Sandy, wasted an entire year of eligibility because they didn't want to tough it out for another few months.

Who are you coming around here with tough love... and what have you done with Dr. Boombatz?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2016, 11:07:43 AM
Hey even though I am a liberal softie at heart, my kids can attest that I preach working hard and sacrificing in the short term to get the long term pay back.  Probably a little too much for their tastes.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 06, 2016, 11:30:37 AM
Sandy knew where he was on the depth chart during the summer. It wasn't a secret. Sandy didn't want to believe it and decided to try and work his way into the rotation. When he couldn't do it after a few games he decided he wanted to leave. Happens all the time in college basketball. Its really a non-story and certainly not an indication that "Wojo is a snake."

Not sure what MUFINY wants from Wojo in this situation. Play Sandy over Hauser, JJJ, Katin, or Cheatham just to make him happy? It was painfully obvious that he was the worst player on the team. If you're the worst player, you don't get much playing time. It's tough but a necessary reality.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jesmu84 on December 06, 2016, 11:36:04 AM
I would like to see the NCAA adjust the eligibility rules from play a single minute in a single game to something like play less than X minutes in the first X games.

John Dawson lost a whole year of eligibility when he played only 4 minutes in the first game (sitting in 7 more) before getting PoleAxed (10 mpg in previous season under Buzz).

I agree with this. It was a topic on sports talk radio the other day - in reference to football. If a player has to take a red-shirt off due to injury on the depth chart, or playing a freshman at the end of a blowout to get experience and avoid potential injury to your starters, etc... shouldn't waste a full year of eligibility in these cases.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jesmu84 on December 06, 2016, 11:38:37 AM
This argument about Cohen saying he didn't feel like he was talked to enough/ignored etc. is completely stupid and pointless. There is only one person's whose opinion matters in a situation like this. That's Cohen's. If he felt like he wasn't being talked to enough. Then he wasn't talked to enough. If thats what caused him to leave, then thats what caused him to leave. Even if Wojo called him every 5 hours it wouldn't matter. If he felt like he wasn't being paid enough attention, then thats the end of the discussion. Maybe him and his next coach will have a telepathic link or something.

Here's the thing though, Sandy wasn't actually quoted as saying this. His handler/guardian SAID he said it. Big difference.

I'm not saying Sandy didn't perhaps feel slighted by the coaching staff, but there are people out there with agendas. I can at least admit I don't know what Sandy said, and point to this article as evidence.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Badgerhater on December 06, 2016, 11:40:33 AM
Did he really though?  I thought I remember reading (on Scoop) that he appealed and the NCAA granted it,i.e., treat it as though he didn't play those four minutes.  Did I dream that?

Not sure.  Just know that he is listed as a senior on Liberty's roster.


Found this a few minutes later on Google:  I don't know where the appeal sits at this time.

October 2016

http://www.newsadvance.com/townnews/sport/four-minutes-costs-lu-s-dawson-one-year/article_ff7c9d4c-18dd-5ea1-b622-6249b18b7e07.html

Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 06, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
Sandy was good enough to displace an All Big East Rookie and cause him to transfer. Wojo is a guy who uses kids and disposes of them when he no longer needs them.

Sandy played more minutes than Burton in exactly two games. The first two of the season. He shot 50% from three in those two games and deserved to be on the floor. Burton got more minutes than Sandy in the six consecutive games following. The "Sandy made Burton transfer" argument is a myth. Burton lost his mother and his coach. He tried to tough it out. Decided he couldn't and followed his friend Jameel to Iowa State.

Wojo is a guy who uses kids and disposes of them when he no longer needs them.

If by this you mean "plays the players who are most deserving of playing time" than I agree. Can you honestly tell me that Sandy's play was worth of more minutes?

I have more experience in D1 athletics than probably 99 percent of this board and I can tell You I know a snake when I see one.

Please share. You keep insisting that you know better than rest of us morons. What experience do you have that makes you more qualified? I'm honestly curious.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Da 'Lanche on December 06, 2016, 12:16:06 PM
Well-done synopsis, Lanche.

Thank you, but feel free to call me by my first name: "Ava"

This is what happens when you are stuck in airports all day...
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MU82 on December 06, 2016, 01:21:06 PM

Not sure what MUFINY wants from Wojo in this situation. Play Sandy over Hauser, JJJ, Katin, or Cheatham just to make him happy? It was painfully obvious that he was the worst player on the team. If you're the worst player, you don't get much playing time. It's tough but a necessary reality.

This.

Well, MUFINY?

It's similar to those who look at the NBA All-Star roster and say, "So-and-so should be on the roster. He deserved it!" And then you ask, "OK, but who shouldn't be on the roster, then?"

Life doesn't happen in a vacuum.

(If it did, it would really suck. Waa-haa ... I'm killing me today!)
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: #UnleashSean on December 06, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
I would like to see the NCAA adjust the eligibility rules from play a single minute in a single game to something like play less than X minutes in the first X games.

John Dawson lost a whole year of eligibility when he played only 4 minutes in the first game (sitting in 7 more) before getting PoleAxed (10 mpg in previous season under Buzz).

Didn't Dawson appeal and get his year back?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2016, 01:36:56 PM
Didn't Dawson appeal and get his year back?


Read the thread.  He appealed.  It hasn't been determined.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Badgerhater on December 06, 2016, 01:37:01 PM
Didn't Dawson appeal and get his year back?

As of October of this year he has not.   Google has not provided me anything more recent.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Bocephys on December 06, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
As of October of this year he has not.   Google has not provided me anything more recent.

He should retain O'Tule's lawyers.  That Irish guy was here for the better part of a decade.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 06, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
Sandy was good enough to displace an All Big East Rookie and cause him to transfer. Wojo is a guy who uses kids and disposes of them when he no longer needs them.

I have more experience in D1 athletics than probably 99 percent of this board and I can tell You I know a snake when I see one.

You also thought Henry was a 4 year player.

So allow me to be hesitant on how much you actually know
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 06, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
You also thought Henry was a 4 year player.

So allow me to be hesitant on how much you actually know

Hands clapping.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 06, 2016, 05:19:48 PM
You also thought Henry was a 4 year player.

So allow me to be hesitant on how much you actually know
I said Henry was a one year player who may have elected to stay 4 years and garner championship glory. I realized early on that he was a selfish ball hog who was only out for himself and not the team.

By the way he is doing very well in the D League.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: #UnleashSean on December 06, 2016, 05:25:34 PM
I said Henry was a one year player who may have elected to stay 4 years and garner championship glory. I realized early on that he was a selfish ball hog who was only out for himself and not the team.

By the way he is doing very well in the D League.

He was a selfish ball hog because if we had given him any less shots we would have won 5 games that year.

Also not sure what the D League jab is about. He's going to progress much faster there then at Marquette.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MomofMUltiples on December 06, 2016, 06:17:46 PM
I said Henry was a one year player who may have elected to stay 4 years and garner championship glory.

(http://www.humorgazette.com/images/history_logo390.jpg)
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: wadesworld on December 06, 2016, 06:50:12 PM
(http://www.humorgazette.com/images/history_logo390.jpg)

Yup!
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 06, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
Sandy was good enough to displace an All Big East Rookie and cause him to transfer. Wojo is a guy who uses kids and disposes of them when he no longer needs them.

I have more experience in D1 athletics than probably 99 percent of this board and I can tell You I know a snake when I see one.

Despite others' criticism, I for one love your performance art Tex.  Your refusal to be bounded by reality shows creative flare bordering on genius.  Your latest work, entitled "All Big East Rookie Run Off by Guy That Had to Transfer to Mid-Major to Get Off the Bench" is a whimsical flight of fancy that few artists not strung out on a six day heroine binge could ever conceive of. Bravo, Sir!

If by more experience in D1 athletics you mean "I could dunk in high school" then I agree with you on that as well.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: keefe on December 06, 2016, 10:18:16 PM
I have been curing and smoking my own bacon lately. 

Have you no shame?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: We R Final Four on December 06, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Sandy to UWGB
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 06, 2016, 10:31:00 PM
Sandy played more minutes than Burton in exactly two games. The first two of the season. He shot 50% from three in those two games and deserved to be on the floor. Burton got more minutes than Sandy in the six consecutive games following. The "Sandy made Burton transfer" argument is a myth. Burton lost his mother and his coach. He tried to tough it out. Decided he couldn't and followed his friend Jameel to Iowa State.

If by this you mean "plays the players who are most deserving of playing time" than I agree. Can you honestly tell me that Sandy's play was worth of more minutes?

Please share. You keep insisting that you know better than rest of us morons. What experience do you have that makes you more qualified? I'm honestly curious.
Nobody said the rest of you were Morons. Take it as a compliment to your sporting intellect that someone challenges your assumptions.

We are 7-2 good times are just around the corner.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MU82 on December 06, 2016, 11:37:56 PM
(http://www.humorgazette.com/images/history_logo390.jpg)

You got this right. Pretty much the definition of it.

I'm not into looking back at a poster's history to see what he/she said and how often he/she said it.

But I would guess that MUFINY said several dozen times that Henry would be a four-year player and didn't change his tune until WELL into the season when it was obvious he was wrong.

Now his response is to rip Henry at every turn. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 07, 2016, 12:17:57 AM
Nobody said the rest of you were Morons. Take it as a compliment to your sporting intellect that someone challenges your assumptions.

We are 7-2 good times are just around the corner.

Apologies. You did not call us morons. You did say that you know better than 99% of us. So it's not that we are morons, you are just a genius. If you are going to make statements that claim that your opinion is more valuable or informed than others, please be prepared to back it up.

I'm still waiting for your view on how Sandy's playing time should have been handled. Who do you think he should have been taking minutes from?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 07, 2016, 01:01:46 AM
Apologies. You did not call us morons. You did say that you know better than 99% of us. So it's not that we are morons, you are just a genius. If you are going to make statements that claim that your opinion is more valuable or informed than others, please be prepared to back it up.

I'm still waiting for your view on how Sandy's playing time should have been handled. Who do you think he should have been taking minutes from?
I think Wojo should have sat Sandy down and explained what reality was this summer.  I think Wojo played it too cute by a half so to speak. He had an idea Sam and Markus would be strong players, but he wasn't sure, so he hedged his bets and kept Sandy around. Once it became clear Sam and Markus were true studs,  Sandy became disposable.In fact the team is better off without him as minutes allocations are much better. However,  I don't believe you treat college kids as disposable entities.  In this case you walk the kid off the ledge keep him around for the year. It is in every bodies interest. By the way I still think there would have been a handful of occasions Sandy could have played a meaningful role on defense. Sandy literally could have been the difference in a win or two, which as you know are very important when it comes tournament selection time.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jsglow on December 07, 2016, 06:23:55 AM
You do an incredible amount of speculation about things you have no knowledge of.  But the problem is really mine. For some stupid reason I still read (some of) your posts.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jesmu84 on December 07, 2016, 06:47:35 AM
I think Wojo should have sat Sandy down and explained what reality was this summer.  I think Wojo played it too cute by a half so to speak. He had an idea Sam and Markus would be strong players, but he wasn't sure, so he hedged his bets and kept Sandy around. Once it became clear Sam and Markus were true studs,  Sandy became disposable.In fact the team is better off without him as minutes allocations are much better. However,  I don't believe you treat college kids as disposable entities.  In this case you walk the kid off the ledge keep him around for the year. It is in every bodies interest. By the way I still think there would have been a handful of occasions Sandy could have played a meaningful role on defense. Sandy literally could have been the difference in a win or two, which as you know are very important when it comes tournament selection time.

Everytime you post it becomes clear what your agenda is.

The article states that Sandy knew during the summer where he stood on the team and wanted to try and stick it out anyway. I'll repeat that in case the rest of us non-geniuses need it repeated - Sandy KNEW this summe "the reality" and CHOSE to try it anyway.

But man. It sucks to have such a de motivator running our team
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 07, 2016, 07:24:44 AM
I think Wojo should have sat Sandy down and explained what reality was this summer.  I think Wojo played it too cute by a half so to speak. He had an idea Sam and Markus would be strong players, but he wasn't sure, so he hedged his bets and kept Sandy around. Once it became clear Sam and Markus were true studs,  Sandy became disposable.In fact the team is better off without him as minutes allocations are much better. However,  I don't believe you treat college kids as disposable entities.  In this case you walk the kid off the ledge keep him around for the year. It is in every bodies interest. By the way I still think there would have been a handful of occasions Sandy could have played a meaningful role on defense. Sandy literally could have been the difference in a win or two, which as you know are very important when it comes tournament selection time.

So your opinion is that coaches should try to run off players if they think there's a good chance that there are other players on the team better than them.

As the article states and I have heard definitively from others, Sandy was well aware of where he was on the depth chart. He decided to try and work through it and earn more time.When he realized after four games that this was going to be tough and take some time, he quit.

Also from reading your response, it seems like you think Wojo kicked Sandy off the team. Sandy absolutely had a spot on this team for the rest of the year. Most likely for the following year too. Sandy decided it was time for Sandy to leave. Not Wojo. He could have stayed to earn his time but he didn't.

I'm still waiting for your credentials. No one else here claims to have a better opinion than anyone else. You say your experience makes your opinion more valuable than 99% of this board. Well, what experience is this? If you are going to make a statement like that, you should be ready to back it up.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MUfan12 on December 07, 2016, 08:13:07 AM
I think Wojo should have sat Sandy down and explained what reality was this summer.

That did happen after last season, and Sandy decided to stick it out.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 07, 2016, 08:19:53 AM
Nobody said the rest of you were Morons. Take it as a compliment to your sporting intellect that someone challenges your assumptions.

We are 7-2 good times are just around the corner.

So you admit then that you were completely, absolutely, stunningly wrong?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 07, 2016, 08:26:17 AM
You do an incredible amount of speculation about things you have no knowledge of. 
And passes it off as if its ironclad Truth. 

But the sooner we all recognize that Tex/Gus/MUFINY (and I suspect Ners sometimes in a "Hoopaloop-loaned-me-his-login sort of way) is invested in performance art and Truthiness the better. 
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MU1980 on December 07, 2016, 08:31:33 AM
I think Wojo should have sat Sandy down and explained what reality was this summer.  I think Wojo played it too cute by a half so to speak. He had an idea Sam and Markus would be strong players, but he wasn't sure, so he hedged his bets and kept Sandy around. Once it became clear Sam and Markus were true studs,  Sandy became disposable.In fact the team is better off without him as minutes allocations are much better. However,  I don't believe you treat college kids as disposable entities.  In this case you walk the kid off the ledge keep him around for the year. It is in every bodies interest. By the way I still think there would have been a handful of occasions Sandy could have played a meaningful role on defense. Sandy literally could have been the difference in a win or two, which as you know are very important when it comes tournament selection time.

I rarely post on here, but enjoy reading what most of the posters have to say.  In your case, I am always completely astonished at how little insight you have into a Division I athletics program, and yet you claim you have some background and know more than 99% of the posters on here.  Then you submit a post like the one above and show that just the opposite is true.  I was at a very high level as both a Division I athlete and coach, but I would never even begin to try and imply that I know what the EXACT conversations were between Sandy and Wojo.  In general though, I am guessing he was motivating ALL the guys throughout the summer, getting them to understand that this team is going to be deep, our incoming freshmen and transfers are very talented, and if you want to earn playing time, it is going to take hard work.  A program grows by having a lot of depth so that each player knows that if he doesn't work hard, doesn't play defense, isn't a team player, etc. he is not going to get playing time.  When a team has no depth, it is easy for the athletes to get complacent with their current ability level because they know playing time is there whether they improve or not.  None of us, including Wojo, had any idea if Sandy was going to improve enough or not to earn more playing time.  Having two freshmen step in right away and become two of your most reliable players does not happen often and while everyone was hoping this would be the case, nobody could have known they would be this good this quickly.  In Sandy's case, it appears that he did work very hard, but the talent wasn't there for him to earn enough playing time at this level. Wojo gave him his shot and in just a few games it was clear he was the last man on the bench and things weren't going to change.  For you to imply, with all of your supposed knowledge, that Wojo was dishonest with him or treated him poorly, is just plain wrong, especially when it is based on pure speculation about what conversations went on this past summer.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: jaygall31 on December 07, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
Sandy seems like a nice kid and I hope he does well wherever he winds up. He simply wasn't a Big-East-Conference-level player. No disgrace.


Well Said. I'm not even sure he's D1. But the mins simply weren't there, and frankly weren't going to be there.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 07, 2016, 10:15:44 AM
I rarely post on here, but enjoy reading what most of the posters have to say.  In your case, I am always completely astonished at how little insight you have into a Division I athletics program, and yet you claim you have some background and know more than 99% of the posters on here.  Then you submit a post like the one above and show that just the opposite is true.  I was at a very high level as both a Division I athlete and coach, but I would never even begin to try and imply that I know what the EXACT conversations were between Sandy and Wojo.  In general though, I am guessing he was motivating ALL the guys throughout the summer, getting them to understand that this team is going to be deep, our incoming freshmen and transfers are very talented, and if you want to earn playing time, it is going to take hard work.  A program grows by having a lot of depth so that each player knows that if he doesn't work hard, doesn't play defense, isn't a team player, etc. he is not going to get playing time.  When a team has no depth, it is easy for the athletes to get complacent with their current ability level because they know playing time is there whether they improve or not.  None of us, including Wojo, had any idea if Sandy was going to improve enough or not to earn more playing time.  Having two freshmen step in right away and become two of your most reliable players does not happen often and while everyone was hoping this would be the case, nobody could have known they would be this good this quickly.  In Sandy's case, it appears that he did work very hard, but the talent wasn't there for him to earn enough playing time at this level. Wojo gave him his shot and in just a few games it was clear he was the last man on the bench and things weren't going to change.  For you to imply, with all of your supposed knowledge, that Wojo was dishonest with him or treated him poorly, is just plain wrong, especially when it is based on pure speculation about what conversations went on this past summer.

I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Folks,,, on December 07, 2016, 11:23:21 AM
I'm still waiting for your credentials. No one else here claims to have a better opinion than anyone else. You say your experience makes your opinion more valuable than 99% of this board. Well, what experience is this? If you are going to make a statement like that, you should be ready to back it up.

RÉSUMÉ WATCH
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: brandx on December 07, 2016, 11:30:21 AM
Guys, do not let this guy chica-fy the board. We already had one poster almost destroy us. Do not let this guy matter.

Ignore him!
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 07, 2016, 12:06:03 PM
RÉSUMÉ WATCH
Will never happen.  When he is called on his nonsense he never answers, just Gish Gallops away to his next factless claim.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: NickelDimer on December 07, 2016, 03:29:34 PM
Guys, do not let this guy chica-fy the board. We already had one poster almost destroy us. Do not let this guy matter.

Ignore him!
No chance. This board HAS to obsess over a poster; Chicos, Ners, 84, Ners under 4-5 different names, etc. etc. It's part of the fiber of this board.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: SWARM! on December 07, 2016, 03:50:50 PM
No chance. This board HAS to obsess over a poster; Chicos, Ners, 84, Ners under 4-5 different names, etc. etc. It's part of the fiber of this board.

Don't forget Canadian Dimes a/k/a MR HEYWARD.  Where's that cat at?
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MU82 on December 07, 2016, 05:01:29 PM
Guys, do not let this guy chica-fy the board. We already had one poster almost destroy us. Do not let this guy matter.

Ignore him!

Come on, brandy ... chicos didn't "almost destroy us." Neither did Ners, or anybody else.

We shouted them down often enough, and the mods did their jobs by dropping the hammer. Good effen riddance.

MUFINY shows with almost every post how clueless he is. It's actually become pretty funny. It's all the funnier that he then claims he is the only one who has a clue. But hey, almost that exact attitude got a certain orange-hued cat-grabber elected leader of the free world, so maybe MUFINY is just getting ready for his political career!

Oh, and I'm pretty sure that if our coach had Pole-Axed Sandy in the offseason and then a couple of guys got hurt during the weeks leading up to the season, MUFINY would have been screaming bloody murder about Wojo sitting Sandy down and explaining the reality to him.

"How could he de-motivate Sandy? Why didn't he motivate guys to stay healthy? He HAD to know guys could get hurt!!!!!"
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: MuMark on December 07, 2016, 06:54:11 PM
http://www.postcrescent.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2016/12/06/uwgb-lands-former-seymour-star-sandy-cohen/95046760/?hootPostID=2f2ac3db93ed838315849bc2cbd9521a
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: real chili 83 on December 07, 2016, 07:02:09 PM
Don't forget Canadian Dimes a/k/a MR HEYWARD.  Where's that cat at?

Dimes, aka River Rat used to go after Chicos with a vengeance.  Entertaining
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: WarriorFan on December 07, 2016, 09:10:06 PM
Sandy's transfer is in the best interest of MU.  Any organization needs to drop it's low performers and continually find higher performers.  Sandy wisely saw this and opted out.

We'll soon learn if Sandy is even D1 talent... I suspect he's not but do hope he succeeds.  In an earlier post I hoped he would go to a lower level school, play immediately, play 1.5 years, and really rack up some PT and stats. 

Two people think he's D1 talent... Darner and Sandy... that's what matters I guess.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 07, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
http://www.postcrescent.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2016/12/06/uwgb-lands-former-seymour-star-sandy-cohen/95046760/?hootPostID=2f2ac3db93ed838315849bc2cbd9521a
Wow, Sandys guardian/coach/pr flack is not doing him any favors with some of the comments  he made in this story.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: lohaus on December 07, 2016, 10:30:58 PM

Well Said. I'm not even sure he's D1. But the mins simply weren't there, and frankly weren't going to be there.

He obviously is D1 since he is going to his second D1 school.  He just wasn't D1 Big East major contributor material.  He seemed to perform well in the cupcake non-conference mid major portion of the season. . . And against Wisconsin.  I think he will do well not having to play the 4 position and defend the 4 position at 6'4" and maybe 195 lbs against Big East 4s that run 6'9" 225-235 lbs.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: brewcity77 on December 08, 2016, 06:05:07 AM
Wow, Sandys guardian/coach/pr flack is not doing him any favors with some of the comments  he made in this story.

Not at all. How I read that was he just wants to play, and not thinking about guarding a 4, or playing within a system. I think Sandy will do fine up there, and wish him the best, but it'll be good for him once the initial media fanfare stops and his old coach is no longer being asked for comments.
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: real chili 83 on December 08, 2016, 01:33:13 PM
Here's a really thorough story on Sandy that came out in the Marquette Wire (Tribune).

https://marquettewire.org/3961974/sports/sandy-cohen-moves-on/
Title: Re: Sandy Cohen transfer article
Post by: Herman Cain on December 08, 2016, 02:30:08 PM
Here's a really thorough story on Sandy that came out in the Marquette Wire (Tribune).

https://marquettewire.org/3961974/sports/sandy-cohen-moves-on/
We have discussed this article quite a bit in this thread already. Thanks for reposting though.