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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on December 04, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
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1. Live by the three, die by the jacked up 3 outside of the offense. KR, JJ, AR.
2. JJ played a complete game other than that.
3. The freshmen can play. Doogie, Markus, the future is bright. But Markus, you still are only 5'11
4. Not Pitt redux. They CAN learn. They CAN weather a storm on the road.
5. Feeling better about Matt going forward, too.
6. UGa's zone made MU stand still for a few possessions. Eventually, MU started moving again. Paint touches, men. Flash a shooter to the foul line.
7. Getting a win on the road getting virtually nothing from Haanif. A team effort.
8. At least we are making FT's. It doesn't matter, ::) but it does.
9. Big. No other word for it. Ok, HUGE. That may be a better word.
10. Could just hear the "We are...... MARQUETTE" chant at the end
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Huge game and freshmen played big. Johnson continues to be jack of all trades. Hauser is going to be our all-time leading scorer if he doesn't go pro after this year.
Did someone buy Reinhardt a comfy seat on Cyber Monday? He needs a place to sit more often.
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One game does not make a career, but Sam may have a better freshman year than Ellenson did. And I know he will have a better sophomore season.
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-Why Howard sat after playing first three minutes of game a mystery. He was fantastic in second half.
- JJJ brutal in first half and played like man possessed in second half. Besides that one terrible three pointer shot, he ended up with 16 points, 9 rebounds and 5 steals, all in second half.
- May be wrong, but no Carter or Wilson in second half, right? If so, minimal.
- With Fischer in foul trouble and Cheatham having probably worst game in career (2 points, 4 fouls, 2 turnovers) very nice road win.
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1. Catchy title, Tower.
2.Didn't get to see the first half because of a stupid flight, but I was surprised to note positive comments re: JJJ. During the part I did see, he seemed to drive repeatedly out of control into the tall timber (which, in all fairness, should just be called a turnover).
3. I've got to say I am having trouble warming to our transfers whose last names start with "R."
4. The younger brother is really better than Sam? Heysoos, Woj, keep those parents happy!
5. When the lead all but evaporated I thought it was deja vu all over again, but the Frosh saved our bacon.
6. Let's get the Rodents!
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10...Loved the MU fan support on the road! Great job guys. For the freshman to play that well in their first road game gives me great hope.
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Tracy made me very nervous at times
Great team effort and tough defense today
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Nice W! Most impressive was the limited minutes from Luke, Hanni playing poorly and JJJ playing out of control. This team could be really good in a couple months.
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Offensive versatility
Four double-figure scorers. All 10 players scored in the game. Six players hit at least one three. Opposing coaches and teams can't defend everyone.
Offensive efficiency
We took a lot of threes, probably too many. But we hit 44.8% of them, and finished the game with an eFG% of 56.8%. We also got to the line 17 times in scoring 25 more points against Georgia than Kansas did.
Tough rebounding
Gave up a lot of offensive rebounds, but MU won the battle of the boards. JaJuan, Matt, Luke and Sam combined for 28 rebounds. Georgia had just 31 as a team.
Protecting the ball
After 9 first-half turnovers, Marquette committed only 1 the rest of the way. I'll take 10 turnovers just about any game this season.
Porous defense
Georgia might be the worst 3-point shooting team we face all season. Even so, the Bulldogs put up an eFG% of 55.1% and scored 79 points against us. That kind of defensive performance won't cut it against better opponents.
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Number 5 is a big one. Heldt played well against a very very good player.
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Number 5 is a big one. Heldt played well against a very very good player.
Before the start of the season, there were big questions about our defense against teams with dominant post players. We're beginning to get some answers. It's not like we stopped Maten or even really slowed him down. He pretty much got whatever shot he wanted. But Luke, Matt and the rest of the team kept him from taking over the game.
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This is one of those games that just make you feel real good. Generally good play by the team and they are beginning to address a number of issues shown earlier in the season. Also addressed the turnover problem in the second half. This keeps the team in the hunt for a Big Dance bid. That is enough to give us hope and to look forward to Wisconsin.
Wisconsin will be a team at another level and the game is occurring early in the season for us but I look forward to respectability and just maybe some magic.
Go Warriors!
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Reading A LOT of awesome messages about us being able to compete with WISCONSIN. AWESOME! That's great... but this message board is forgetting a trap game against FRESNO STATE!
Even the scoopers are skipping fresno... hope the players don't.
NEXT GAME:
FRESNO STATE Dec. 6th.
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Reading A LOT of awesome messages about us being able to compete with WISCONSIN. AWESOME! That's great... but this message board is forgetting a trap game against FRESNO STATE!
Even the scoopers are skipping fresno... hope the players don't.
NEXT GAME:
FRESNO STATE Dec. 6th.
Great point. The quick turnaround makes me nervous. Not much time to game plan.
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First, is Sam's younger brother really better than he is?
Second, does JJJ make anyone else nuts. He does so much so well. Yet for as athletic as he is when he drives I cringe. He gets blocked more than any player I can remember. He seems to never make a layup or get fouled when he drives into traffic.
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Reading A LOT of awesome messages about us being able to compete with WISCONSIN. AWESOME! That's great... but this message board is forgetting a trap game against FRESNO STATE!
Even the scoopers are skipping fresno... hope the players don't.
NEXT GAME:
FRESNO STATE Dec. 6th.
Yes we the people who don't play one minute or even have direct contact with the team are totally overlooking Fresno state.
On a serious note the defense needs to get so much better. We had some nice stretches where they packed it in more onthe second half. I hope we do more of that.
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Reading A LOT of awesome messages about us being able to compete with WISCONSIN. AWESOME! That's great... but this message board is forgetting a trap game against FRESNO STATE!
Even the scoopers are skipping fresno... hope the players don't.
NEXT GAME:
FRESNO STATE Dec. 6th.
great point, well executed game plan against Fresno St will help with being ready for UDub.
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First, is Sam's younger brother really better than he is?
Second, does JJJ make anyone else nuts. He does so much so well. Yet for as athletic as he is when he drives I cringe. He gets blocked more than any player I can remember. He seems to never make a layup or get fouled when he drives into traffic.
1. JJJ reminds me of Jerel McNeal in the anxiety he causes me vs. his contributions to the team.
2. Thread title: SEC and ye shall find....victory Bring on Kentucky!
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Second, does JJJ make anyone else nuts. He does so much so well. Yet for as athletic as he is when he drives I cringe. He gets blocked more than any player I can remember. He seems to never make a layup or get fouled when he drives into traffic.
Georgia had some good shot blockers, for sure. But JaJuan's aggression on the drive generally leads to good things. And the fact that he's a threat to either: 1) drive to the basket; 2) stop and take a 10-15 foot jumper; or 3) hit an open three makes him much more difficult to defend against overall.
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Very disappointing thread title. I was personally hoping for "Georgia on my mind."
Back on track with this win. I projected a split in NYC and a loss today. Beat Fresno St and WI and things are looking good.
We may need to score 80 every game to win. If the defense improves, look out. At the very least Marquette will play some entertaining basketball this season.
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I want to mention Katin's game. I thought he played within himself very well contributing on both ends of the floor.
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Very disappointing thread title. I was personally hoping for "Georgia on my mind."
Back on track with this win. I projected a split in NYC and a loss today. Beat Fresno St and WI and things are looking good.
We may need to score 80 every game to win. If the defense improves, look out. At the very least Marquette will play some entertaining basketball this season.
Tough room.
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10 point victory on the road while clearly not hitting on all cylinders? Definite good sign. Haanif with a very poor game and JJJ very hit and miss (excellent rebounding, five steals, but shot just 5-15 and had some questionable decisions) and still beating a decent high major comfortably? Well done.
Playing the what if game is useless, but what if we hadn't panicked and resorted to hero ball for ten minutes vs. Pitt? Sitting 7-1 right now have looked awfully good.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400910662
Box
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Feedback from Xavier board:
"Attended the Marquette-UGA game today. Really unimpressed with Marquette. I think Luke Fischer gets worse every year and Jujuan Johnson appears to be the only athlete on that team. I am knocking on wood as I type this, but I am finding it really hard to imagine a scenario in which Xavier does not beat them by double digits."
http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31362-Games-involving-other-Big-East-Members-2016-2017/page14
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I didn't watch the first half. (Only the second after watching the Packers.) Was the starting line up really Luke, Matt, Traci, Haanif and Rowsey?
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Feedback from Xavier board:
"Attended the Marquette-UGA game today. Really unimpressed with Marquette. I think Luke Fischer gets worse every year and Jujuan Johnson appears to be the only athlete on that team. I am knocking on wood as I type this, but I am finding it really hard to imagine a scenario in which Xavier does not beat them by double digits."
http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31362-Games-involving-other-Big-East-Members-2016-2017/page14
Outside of the athlete thing, I am not sure he is wrong. I still don't think Marquette is playing very good defensively. Really the only chance is to go completely beserk from distance.
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I didn't watch the first half. (Only the second after watching the Packers.) Was the starting line up really Luke, Matt, Traci, Haanif and Rowsey?
nope ESPN f'ed up
Luke, Hannif, Hauser, Howard and Johnson
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I didn't watch the first half. (Only the second after watching the Packers.) Was the starting line up really Luke, Matt, Traci, Haanif and Rowsey?
Get your priorities straight man! Luke, Markus, Sam, JJJ, and Haanif
Edit: Beat to the punch. Here's the MU box..
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2016-2017/mugame08.html
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nope ESPN f'ed up
Luke, Hannif, Hauser, Howard and Johnson
Get your priorities stright man! Luke, Markus, Sam, JJJ and, Haanif
Thank you.
I was worried Wojo had a stroke or something.
And in my defense, it is easier for me to avoid the Marquette score when watching a Packer game than vice versa.
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ESPN wants to release the Feldt!
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BTW, what was up with Duane minutes? Looked like he played pretty well from the boxscore. I don't think I saw him in the second half.
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BTW, what was up with Duane minutes? Looked like he played pretty well from the boxscore. I don't think I saw him in the second half.
Other than a really silly turnover, I though he deserved more game time.
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10...Loved the MU fan support on the road! Great job guys. For the freshman to play that well in their first road game gives me great hope.
My brother-in-law (who managed the Avalanche when my brother owned it) was there cheering on the Warriors!
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My brother-in-law (who managed the Avalanche when my brother owned it) was there cheering on the Warriors!
Tell your brother and your brother-in-law that I say thank you from the bottom of my heart!
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The win is great and enjoyed. However, the 49% opponents shhoting percentage continues to indicate our Warriors defensive weaknesses. Wont go far giving up 49% shooting
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Additionally, while i have been underwhelmed with katins play to this point like most others i think he actually played very well today. Jacked a couple bad shots during our moment of insanity in the second, when we tried to give the game away, but apart from that brief period i thought he was very good
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I want to mention Katin's game. I thought he played within himself very well contributing on both ends of the floor.
He did play very well outside of 3 shots that he needs to start realizing aren't good shots. He comes in up by 14 with 12 minutes to play and throws up 3s early in the shot clock on back to back possessions. Sure, they were both *somewhat* open looks, but you can get those types of looks later in the shot clock. One pass, 3 point shot possessions are what led to us giving up the lead against Pitt. It almost led to the same result. Thankfully Wojo saw it (after JJJ's 30 footer after the sweet block), took a timeout and got the guys on the floor he needed to. Reinhart also took a well contested 3 with about 2 minutes left and about 15 seconds on the shot clock and tried to fall to the ground to get a whistle.
Shooting 3s within the flow of the offense is great. We have shooters who can make them. Shooting 3s after 1 pass and a defender in the area? Pass.
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He did play very well outside of 3 shots that he needs to start realizing aren't good shots. He comes in up by 14 with 12 minutes to play and throws up 3s early in the shot clock on back to back possessions. Sure, they were both *somewhat* open looks, but you can get those types of looks later in the shot clock. One pass, 3 point shot possessions are what led to us giving up the lead against Pitt. It almost led to the same result. Thankfully Wojo saw it (after JJJ's 30 footer after the sweet block), took a timeout and got the guys on the floor he needed to. Reinhart also took a well contested 3 with about 2 minutes left and about 15 seconds on the shot clock and tried to fall to the ground to get a whistle.
Shooting 3s within the flow of the offense is great. We have shooters who can make them. Shooting 3s after 1 pass and a defender in the area? Pass.
I agree with this analysis. Great shooters can take open or somewhat open 3s whenever possible. Good ones should be more selective. The extra pass (leading to the wide open 3) is important.
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Feedback from Xavier board:
"Attended the Marquette-UGA game today. Really unimpressed with Marquette. I think Luke Fischer gets worse every year and Jujuan Johnson appears to be the only athlete on that team. I am knocking on wood as I type this, but I am finding it really hard to imagine a scenario in which Xavier does not beat them by double digits."
http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31362-Games-involving-other-Big-East-Members-2016-2017/page14
From some Big East teams, I may agree, but not Xavier. This isn't last year's XU. They're comparably weak inside and have been at best uninspiring even in their wins. Preseason I thought they were a clear second, but a month later, they look like they'll be fighting for fourth.
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From some Big East teams, I may agree, but not Xavier. This isn't last year's XU. They're comparably weak inside and have been at best uninspiring even in their wins. Preseason I thought they were a clear second, but a month later, they look like they'll be fighting for fourth.
And we don't see them for 15 more Games. The neighborhood might (Will) change by then.
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Refresh my memory. Late in the game we had a situation where the shot clock was way down and one of our guys got a defender up in the air drawing contact and getting to the line. Thinking it was Markus. Great play.
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Refresh my memory. Late in the game we had a situation where the shot clock was way down and one of our guys got a defender up in the air drawing contact and getting to the line. Thinking it was Markus. Great play.
Katin.
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And we don't see them for 15 more Games. The neighborhood might (Will) change by then.
Very true. Really wish we saw Xavier twice in January like we do Seton Hall and Villanova. Gives the Musketeers too much time to figure it out. Right now, they clearly haven't.
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Coach Steve Wojciechowski challenged Jajaun Johnson at halftime to stop playing timidly and give Marquette a better effort.
"I got a little mad, and when I get mad I play better," Johnson said. "When he got on me, it just clicked."
Mind games, ai'na?
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1. Live by the three, die by the jacked up 3 outside of the offense. KR, JJ, AR.
2. JJ played a complete game other than that.
3. The freshmen can play. Doogie, Markus, the future is bright. But Markus, you still are only 5'11
1. KR and JJ yes. I can live with AR. He is savvy enough to drive the lane and kick for an open three, but coupled with the others, it's bad at times and ill advised. The other two at times try to outdo each other on the worst shot attempt on the worst possible time--for several games now.
2. JJ always seems to play an almost complete game. Waiting for that time when he understands not to chuck up a 25' which is not in flow of the offense. Love his D though. He makes that very simple handoff weave offense work very well.
3. Yeah Marcus is 5'11". So what?
Love that guy. Gamer. He makes the most of it. Let's not handicap his great game/frosh season with 'yeah but he's so short'.
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My brother-in-law (who managed the Avalanche when my brother owned it) was there cheering on the Warriors!
Tony,
You related to Archie??
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I really liked how JJ turned it on in the second half he had what 6 straight points and 3 steals? Also i liked how rowsey and katin played today both made some nice plays. I dont think i saw TC play in the second half at all? Duane deserved more minutes played pretty good just had one dumb TO. Heldt is improving. Hauser and Howard are future stars.
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I really liked how JJ turned it on in the second half he had what 6 straight points and 3 steals? Also i liked how rowsey and katin played today both made some nice plays. I dont think i saw TC play in the second half at all? Duane deserved more minutes played pretty good just had one dumb TO. Heldt is improving. Hauser and Howard are future stars.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2016/12/04/notes-wojciechowski-issues-challenge-half/94975078/
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Tony,
You related to Archie??
Crash,
No, but I remember him (and his baseball bat) fondly. He was my brother in law's key employee and (I think) day manager. When my brother bought the joint he gave Archie and the other full time bartenders an immediate raise and health insurance (which turned out to be a life saver for him). Archie was a really loyal guy, my brother and brother in law's favorite.
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I really liked how JJ turned it on in the second half he had what 6 straight points and 3 steals? Also i liked how rowsey and katin played today both made some nice plays. I dont think i saw TC play in the second half at all? Duane deserved more minutes played pretty good just had one dumb TO. Heldt is improving. Hauser and Howard are future stars.
There has been some discussion in this thread about playing time of Traci, Duane and Markus.
Here's the deal (I think) ...
This is easily the most talent Wojo has had to work with in his three seasons. Like many coaches who have a decent number of interchangeable parts, he has started using the "hot-hand" approach.
We were a little turnover prone in the first half, so Wojo went with Carter over Markus for quite a stretch. Markus played extremely well in the second half and Wojo couldn't stand the idea of taking him out, which limited time for both Duane and Traci. Wojo couldn't get either Sam or JJJ off the floor in the second half, either -- both were too damn good. Plus Wojo wanted to get Rowsey a run, and he played pretty well, again limiting Duane and Traci.
Next game, it might be Duane and Traci getting more time at the expense of Markus and Rowsey.
Oh, and I know we're not allowed to talk about free throws at all because they matter less than zero percent, but it sure is nice having several players who will knock down FTs when we're trying to protect late leads. Theoretically, at least. Because FTs don't matter. (Before the binders full of advanced stats come out, I'm just funnin' here.)
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Well stated 82. The best way to earn minutes is to play so well that Wojo dare not sub you out. Let's use Sam as an example. Coach I'm going to play so well that I'll demand that a graduate Senior back me up. Pick the hot hand. Doesn't have to be shooting either but the best way to find the bench is to turn the rock over. Now go see how many TOs Sam had today in near max minutes.
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Feedback from Xavier board:
"Attended the Marquette-UGA game today. Really unimpressed with Marquette. I think Luke Fischer gets worse every year and Jujuan Johnson appears to be the only athlete on that team. I am knocking on wood as I type this, but I am finding it really hard to imagine a scenario in which Xavier does not beat them by double digits."
http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31362-Games-involving-other-Big-East-Members-2016-2017/page14
Interesting...but lately they should be more concerned with getting beat by double digits themselves.
We'll see what happens on the court soon enough.
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Very disappointing thread title. I was personally hoping for "Georgia on my mind."
Back on track with this win. I projected a split in NYC and a loss today. Beat Fresno St and WI and things are looking good.
We may need to score 80 every game to win. If the defense improves, look out. At the very least Marquette will play some entertaining basketball this season.
Should have been: ....The Warriors went down to Georgia, looking for a Dawg to whoop, not in a bind, not once behind, to the relieve of MU Scoop.......
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Should have been: ....The Warriors went down to Georgia, looking for a Dawg to whoop, not in a bind, not once behind, to the relieve of MU Scoop.......
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I guess it missed the mark for me. You've set a high bar; I absolutely loved Commodore 64.
I was expecting something more specific to the opponent than mere conference affiliation.
Georgia on my mind; Peachy keen on victory; The Parthenon Party; Southern Grits (had we defended well); Young pups tame bulldogs; so many possibilities.
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I only make the easy word plays. And Commodore 64 wasn't mine. I wish it had been.
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I guess it missed the mark for me. You've set a high bar; I absolutely loved Commodore 64.
I was expecting something more specific to the opponent than mere conference affiliation.
Georgia on my mind; Peachy keen on victory; The Parthenon Party; Southern Grits (had we defended well); Young pups tame bulldogs; so many possibilities.
The Parthenon is in Nashville. ;D
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A-thens margin of victory?
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HERE IS AN AMAZING, HILARIOUS (ALBEIT DISGUSTING) STORY FROM MY TRIP TO GEORGIA FOR THE GAME ...
We stayed in a hotel room in which the toilet and shower were in the same part of the bathroom. So being the gentleman I am, when my wife wanted to take a shower and I needed to use the facilities, I went downstairs to the hotel's men's room.
While I was sitting on the toilet, some guy comes into the rest room, tries the stall door and realizes it is occupied. About a minute later I think I hear a little grunting, but I don't really think anything of it.
I finish up shortly thereafter and go out into the main part of the bathroom ... to see a huge dump IN THE URINAL! So I figure I better let a hotel employee know about it.
I go to the front desk and quietly tell the woman there what happened, saying some guy "went" in the urinal. The woman gets a disgusted look on her face and says, "You mean WENT went?" And I say, "Unfortunately, that's exactly what I mean."
How bout that for fun? Pity the employee who had to scoop out that mess!
So ... not long before MU forced Georgia to shyte its proverbial bed, some yahoo shytes a hotel urinal!
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Dude, ya gotta part wit some shekels and quit stayin' at da Motel 6, hey?
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Dude, ya gotta part wit some shekels and quit stayin' at da Motel 6, hey?
No, it was a Residence Inn by Marriott, a decent hotel.
Pretty amazing, yo!
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A-thens margin of victory?
I like it. My mom is from Athens, WI or as the locals call it "Attins".
I'll help you with Tuesday: Fres-NOOO!!!! if we lose. Fres-Yes if we win.
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I was thinking 'Fres-no soup for you'.
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I was thinking 'Fres-no soup for you'.
Boom! Love it. Better than mine.
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HERE IS AN AMAZING, HILARIOUS (ALBEIT DISGUSTING) STORY FROM MY TRIP TO GEORGIA FOR THE GAME ...
We stayed in a hotel room in which the toilet and shower were in the same part of the bathroom. So being the gentleman I am, when my wife wanted to take a shower and I needed to use the facilities, I went downstairs to the hotel's men's room.
While I was sitting on the toilet, some guy comes into the rest room, tries the stall door and realizes it is occupied. About a minute later I think I hear a little grunting, but I don't really think anything of it.
I finish up shortly thereafter and go out into the main part of the bathroom ... to see a huge dump IN THE URINAL! So I figure I better let a hotel employee know about it.
I go to the front desk and quietly tell the woman there what happened, saying some guy "went" in the urinal. The woman gets a disgusted look on her face and says, "You mean WENT went?" And I say, "Unfortunately, that's exactly what I mean."
How bout that for fun? Pity the employee who had to scoop out that mess!
So ... not long before MU forced Georgia to shyte its proverbial bed, some yahoo shytes a hotel urinal!
I like Buzz, but still it has to be said...... are you sure it wasn't Buzz and there wasn't an assistant around?
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HERE IS AN AMAZING, HILARIOUS (ALBEIT DISGUSTING) STORY FROM MY TRIP TO GEORGIA FOR THE GAME ...
We stayed in a hotel room in which the toilet and shower were in the same part of the bathroom. So being the gentleman I am, when my wife wanted to take a shower and I needed to use the facilities, I went downstairs to the hotel's men's room.
While I was sitting on the toilet, some guy comes into the rest room, tries the stall door and realizes it is occupied. About a minute later I think I hear a little grunting, but I don't really think anything of it.
I finish up shortly thereafter and go out into the main part of the bathroom ... to see a huge dump IN THE URINAL! So I figure I better let a hotel employee know about it.
I go to the front desk and quietly tell the woman there what happened, saying some guy "went" in the urinal. The woman gets a disgusted look on her face and says, "You mean WENT went?" And I say, "Unfortunately, that's exactly what I mean."
How bout that for fun? Pity the employee who had to scoop out that mess!
So ... not long before MU forced Georgia to shyte its proverbial bed, some yahoo shytes a hotel urinal!
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/26uf7vFbbszr0NKec/200_s.gif)
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The win is great and enjoyed. However, the 49% opponents shhoting percentage continues to indicate our Warriors defensive weaknesses. Wont go far giving up 49% shooting
MU closed last season by allowing opponents to shoot over 59% in each of the final five regular season games.
Surprisingly, they won two of those five games.
Definitely not a recipe for success, but it can be overcome.
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No, it was a Residence Inn by Marriott, a decent hotel.
Pretty amazing, yo!
Good thing you went upscale.
In a Motel 6, they crap in the sink.
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1. Catchy title, Tower.
2.Didn't get to see the first half because of a stupid flight, but I was surprised to note positive comments re: JJJ. During the part I did see, he seemed to drive repeatedly out of control into the tall timber (which, in all fairness, should just be called a turnover).
3. I've got to say I am having trouble warming to our transfers whose last names start with "R."
4. The younger brother is really better than Sam? Heysoos, Woj, keep those parents happy!
5. When the lead all but evaporated I thought it was deja vu all over again, but the Frosh saved our bacon.
6. Let's get the Rodents!
Wojo up to his tricks again. Sibling mind games.
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Wojo up to his tricks again. Sibling mind games.
Is that Good or Bad?
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Is that Good or Bad?
All smoke and mirrors
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All smoke and mirrors
So that would be Bad and that's the posters opinion. Thanks.
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So that would be Bad and that's the posters opinion. Thanks.
You didn't follow the whole Wally cut episode and all the tweets that were posted here? Thought teal was not needed!
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You didn't follow the whole Wally cut episode and all the tweets that were posted here? Thought teal was not needed!
I followed it, the Mom mention Smoke & Mirrors, but who do you believe. From the outside looking in the implications I gather from his mom was Wally was promised things that didn't happen.
On the other side Wojo's story was Wally was told he would be on the end of the bench.
So, as of now I haven't seen anything to support either story,that makes them true or false.
If you have some knowledge, maybe you might share. Thanks
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I followed it, the Mom mention Smoke & Mirrors, but who do you believe. From the outside looking in the implications I gather from his mom was Wally was promised things that didn't happen.
On the other side Wojo's story was Wally was told he would be on the end of the bench.
So, as of now I haven't seen anything to support either story,that makes them true or false.
If you have some knowledge, maybe you might share. Thanks
Walter was told he could remain on scholarship but he would need to be as committed to the team as every one of the other scholarship players were. Walter chose to focus on track and field in the offseason, which resulted in missing team workouts, activities, etc. And he had every right to. Just like Wojo had every right to ask him to fully commit himself to the basketball team since he was using up one of his 13 scholarships on him while track and field was getting him for free.
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Walter was told he could remain on scholarship but he would need to be as committed to the team as every one of the other scholarship players were. Walter chose to focus on track and field in the offseason, which resulted in missing team workouts, activities, etc. And he had every right to. Just like Wojo had every right to ask him to fully commit himself to the basketball team since he was using up one of his 13 scholarships on him while track and field was getting him for free.
Thanks, is it somewhere the other could verify?
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Walter was told he could remain on scholarship but he would need to be as committed to the team as every one of the other scholarship players were. Walter chose to focus on track and field in the offseason, which resulted in missing team workouts, activities, etc. And he had every right to. Just like Wojo had every right to ask him to fully commit himself to the basketball team since he was using up one of his 13 scholarships on him while track and field was getting him for free.
That's one take on the matter. Another would be that the staff knew that Wally was an elite track athlete when they took him on scholarship and that his track and field endeavors were part of the package, so they should honor his scholarship while understanding that for certain parts of the year, track (which is the sport he is dominant in) would take precedence.
I was in the latter camp, but it's all water under the bridge now. I understand why the staff wants full commitment, I also understand why the Ellensons would feel like they may have had some rug pulled out from under.
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That's one take on the matter. Another would be that the staff knew that Wally was an elite track athlete when they took him on scholarship and that his track and field endeavors were part of the package, so they should honor his scholarship while understanding that for certain parts of the year, track (which is the sport he is dominant in) would take precedence.
I was in the latter camp, but it's all water under the bridge now. I understand why the staff wants full commitment, I also understand why the Ellensons would feel like they may have had some rug pulled out from under.
I think we fully litigated this last spring guys. Let's not Jill Stein this. (Not saying you are my friend.)
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I think we fully litigated this last spring guys. Let's not Jill Stein this. (Not saying you are my friend.)
I'm happily done with it. Just saying there were two sides, understand both, now time to move on.
Though if we're going to recount the support for the Pole-axing of Wally, I demand it be done by hand.
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All Good Peace
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I think we fully litigated this last spring guys. Let's not Jill Stein this. (Not saying you are my friend.)
Brew, I am sure glow meant to say "Not saying you are, my friend."
I am the grammar and punctuation Nazi in our family. ;D
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And outside of the initial tweets from Wally's mom, there really has been nothing said publicly by anyone. Hardly a controversy.
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I followed it, the Mom mention Smoke & Mirrors, but who do you believe. From the outside looking in the implications I gather from his mom was Wally was promised things that didn't happen.
On the other side Wojo's story was Wally was told he would be on the end of the bench.
So, as of now I haven't seen anything to support either story,that makes them true or false.
If you have some knowledge, maybe you might share. Thanks
Thougt teal was not needed, just a joke.
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Brew, I am sure glow meant to say "Not saying you are, my friend."
I am the grammar and punctuation Nazi in our family. ;D
Yep. Sorry. ;D
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Brew, I am sure glow meant to say "Not saying you are, my friend."
I am the grammar and punctuation Nazi in our family. ;D
And here I was just punning on the Jill Stein reference ;D
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I'm happily done with it. Just saying there were two sides, understand both, now time to move on.
Though if we're going to recount the support for the Pole-axing of Wally, I demand it be done by hand.
Jesse Livermore wrote the definitive treatise on this issue. He should weigh in on any recount.