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Title: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 10, 2016, 06:03:32 PM
Non Conference Games Scheduled:

Friday, November 11
TIME (ET)   MATCHUP                           TV
6:30 PM   Vanderbilt vs Marquette   CBS Sports Network
6:30 PM   Lafayette at #4 Villanova   FOX Sports 2
7:00 PM   Lehigh at #7 Xavier   
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 10, 2016, 08:42:10 PM
Friday 11/11/16: Eastern Time
6:30 - Vanderbilt vs. Marquette, CBSSN - Tom McCarthy, Steve Lappas, Jon Rothstein
Veterans Classic (Annapolis, MD)

6:30 - Lafayette @ 4 Villanova, FS2, Brian Custer, Donny Marshall

7:00 - Fairleigh Dickinson @ Seton Hall, FSN
FS Arizona, FS Det.+, FS Florida (some areas), FS North, FS Southeast, FS Wisconsin, MASN2, SportsTime Ohio, YES

7:00 - Lehigh @ 7 Xavier, Fox College, Alex Faust and Dickey Simpkins

9:00 - UMKC @ 22 Creighton, FSN Steve Physioc and Nick Bahe
FS Arizona, FS Det.+, FS MW+ (some areas), FS North+, FS Southeast, FS Wisconsin, MASN2, STO

9:00 - Bethune-Cookman @ St. John's, FSN Rich Ackerman & Jim Spanarkel 
FS North, FS South, FS Sun, YES

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 11, 2016, 08:59:53 AM
Wow, some career path for Lappas.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 12, 2016, 08:33:24 AM
Big East 6-0 in non conference after Friday. Off to a good start

MU 95 Vandy 71
Villanova 88 Lafayette 48
Xavier 84 Lehigh 81
Seton Hall 91 FDU 70
St. Johns 100 Bethune Cookman 53
Creighton 89 UMKC 82
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bilsu on November 12, 2016, 09:03:35 AM
Very good night, but I wonder how good Lehigh is. The Xavier score on the surface was not impressive.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 12, 2016, 09:10:15 AM
Very good night, but I wonder how good Lehigh is. The Xavier score on the surface was not impressive.
Lehigh projected to be good. They have the two time Patriot League player of the year Tim Kempton Jr. and some other solid returning vets. Should challenge for their league title.
 
Kempton Jr had a big night last night.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/mc-lehigh-mens-basketball-preview-2016-20161107-story.html

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2016/11/11/xavier-holds-off-lehigh-84-81-win-season-opener/93654190/




Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: 79Warrior on November 12, 2016, 09:20:24 AM
Big East 6-0 in non conference after Friday. Off to a good start

MU 95 Vandy 71
Villanova 88 Lafayette 48
Xavier 84 Lehigh 81
Seton Hall 91 FDU 70
St. Johns 100 Bethune Cookman 53
Creighton 89 UMKC 82

Cupcake City.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 12, 2016, 09:56:23 AM
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FOX Sports Detroit PLUS
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FOX Sports North PLUS
FOX Sports San Diego
FOX Sports South
FOX Sports Southwest PLUS
FOX Sports Sun
MASN2
Prime Ticket
ROOT Sports Pittsburgh
SportsTime Ohio
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11am-SC-Upstate @ Georgetown FSN: Scott Graham/Ron Thompson
FS Wisconsin overflow channel


6:30pm- Northern Colorado @ Butler, FS2 - Vince Welch, Jordan Cornette

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 12, 2016, 02:29:31 PM
Cupcake City.

I love that we've gotten to the point where SEC teams are our cupcakes  ;)
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: hoyasincebirth on November 12, 2016, 02:46:27 PM
Hoyas make good on promises to open up the offense winning 105-60 over USC Upstate. Scored 68 points in the half most in school history.

Rodney Pryor scored 32 points going 6/8 from 3pt range Posting an efficiency rating of 179.3 8-)
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 12, 2016, 03:12:36 PM
Hoyas make good on promises to open up the offense winning 105-60 over USC Upstate. Scored 68 points in the half most in school history.

Rodney Pryor scored 32 points going 6/8 from 3pt range Posting an efficiency rating of 179.3 8-)

That's like MU flaunting their 106 points against Rockhurst.

I'll be shocked if a Thomspon coach team opens anything up.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 12, 2016, 03:59:58 PM
Hoyas make good on promises to open up the offense winning 105-60 over USC Upstate. Scored 68 points in the half most in school history.

Rodney Pryor scored 32 points going 6/8 from 3pt range Posting an efficiency rating of 179.3 8-)
Georgetown win in OOC is a good thing for all of the Big East.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: 79Warrior on November 12, 2016, 04:05:50 PM
I love that we've gotten to the point where SEC teams are our cupcakes  ;)

Really referring to the other games. My bad.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: barfolomew on November 12, 2016, 06:13:53 PM
Hoyas make good on promises to open up the offense winning 105-60 over USC Upstate. Scored 68 points in the half most in school history.

Rodney Pryor scored 32 points going 6/8 from 3pt range Posting an efficiency rating of 179.3 8-)

Great game by Pryor today.
HSB, what is the general feeling in hoyaland about JTIII this year? Does he seem to have a little leash or is it put up or shut up year?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 12, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
Hoyas make good on promises to open up the offense winning 105-60 over USC Upstate. Scored 68 points in the half most in school history.

Rodney Pryor scored 32 points going 6/8 from 3pt range Posting an efficiency rating of 179.3 8-)

Maybe your prediction from last season will come true this time around

Heart: Hoyas get a 1 seed as they win both the regular season and BET.

More realistically: Hoyas get a 3 seed.

POY is Dunn's to lose. Unless Providence totally tanks and finishes below 6th I don't see how you don't give it to him. He's going to have multiple triple doubles. DSR is clearly a first team player and would be more deserving of a Co-POY than Archidiacino ever was, but I'll stick with just Dunn.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MuMark on November 12, 2016, 06:44:42 PM
That's like MU flaunting their 106 points against Rockhurst.

I'll be shocked if a Thomspon coach team opens anything up.

I think this year might finally be different......time will tell
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: hoyasincebirth on November 13, 2016, 08:38:14 AM
Great game by Pryor today.
HSB, what is the general feeling in hoyaland about JTIII this year? Does he seem to have a little leash or is it put up or shut up year?

I think for the casual fans the ones who don't really pay attention till march it's put up or shut up. For people who actually follow the team I think he's got 2-3 years to get to the sweet 16 or beyond before it's time to change horses.

I just wanted to point out Pryor's performance for the person who said he wasn't going to be great or efficient. I know it's one game, but he looks like the real deal. The score of this game doesn't even matter. Anyone who watched the game would see a new Georgetown team. We still have a long way to go, but the intensity and energy and pace are much different from years past. We'll get a better idea of where we stand over the next two weeks with Maryland and Maui coming up. But this team is going to be nothing like last year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 13, 2016, 01:38:12 PM
Butler beat  Northern Colorado. Big East now 8-0.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: source? on November 13, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
Seton Hall's win over Central Connecticut makes it 9-0. Let's watch DePaul screw it up later tonight.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 13, 2016, 08:39:04 PM
Big East 10-0 . DePaul wins.
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2016/11/13/13618652/robert-morris-vs-depaul-final-score-recap-2016
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bilsu on November 14, 2016, 07:34:47 AM
Big East is now the only undefeated conference. Of course we have only 10 teams and have not played another team in the top 10, but this is nice to see.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 14, 2016, 10:31:27 AM
Eastern Time
6:30 PM   Binghamton at St John's   FOX Sports 1

7:00 PM   #4 Villanova at #15 Purdue   Big Ten Network

7:00 PM   Buffalo at #7 Xavier   CBS Sports Network

7:00 PM   Vermont at Providence   FOX Sports 2

8:30 PM   Howard at Marquette   FOX Sports 1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 14, 2016, 06:57:35 PM
Incredible atmosphere at Purdue for the Villanova game tonight. Purdue just hit a half court shot at buzzer to tie it at half time 39-39.

Ponds and Lovett look very good in the backcourt tonight for St Johns , as they are pullin away from Binghampton
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 14, 2016, 07:20:29 PM
Jesus, Josh Hart is so freakin good
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: kryza on November 14, 2016, 07:32:27 PM
oops nm
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: naginiF on November 14, 2016, 07:36:52 PM
'Nova wins this on talent but Haas looks like a giant out there and they are using him well.  a) didn't see the first half or how he got 3 fouls so i may be missing something, and b) there's an avocado joke in there somewhere but it escapes me.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: tower912 on November 14, 2016, 08:14:12 PM
Nova wins.  Big East still undefeated
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 14, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
Nova wins.  Big East still undefeated
Providence beat Vermont, Xavier beat Buffalo and the Johnnies looked good in their win. Nice to see everyone getting off to a god start.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 14, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
Providence beat Vermont, Xavier beat Buffalo and the Johnnies looked good in their win. Nice to see everyone getting off to a god start.

#Catholic7
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on November 14, 2016, 09:28:28 PM
Tomorrow night two big tests. Can we get thru the first week undefeated?!!

Hey, if people can speculate about a 30-0 MU team, I can muse about a perfect first week for the BE.  ;D
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 14, 2016, 09:47:24 PM
That was a big early road win for nova and the conference
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: forgetful on November 14, 2016, 10:05:43 PM
Tomorrow night two big tests. Can we get thru the first week undefeated?!!

Hey, if people can speculate about a 30-0 MU team, I can muse about a perfect first week for the BE.  ;D

Think bigger.  BE undefeated in non-conference.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 14, 2016, 10:37:54 PM
Think bigger.  BE undefeated in non-conference.

Come on now, be realistic. DePaul is still in the league.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on November 14, 2016, 10:43:00 PM
Think bigger.  BE undefeated in non-conference.

No way, no way, no way....well maybe...yes!

BE undefeated in non conf...MU undefeated in BET. MU BET champs! 1seed undisputed. Big Dance champs! And MU considered best team since undefeated Indiana.

And to think that I saw it on Mulberry street!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on November 15, 2016, 01:20:23 PM
Do we want Creighton to Beat UW tonight?

I am not a fan of UW, but is it better at this point to beat a highly rated undefeated UW team in December?....or a UW team with a loss to Creighton and rated a little less highly?   

Of course we can always get Creighton twice later....maybe the math is better if Creighton ranked higher. I know the math differentials are minor here.

Any other team my BE allegiance says Creighton...But I want UW and MU to be undefeated for a showdown. So I'm rooting for UW on that bases.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 15, 2016, 01:27:19 PM
Do we want Creighton to Beat UW tonight?

I am not a fan of UW, but is it better at this point to beat a highly rated undefeated UW team in December?....or a UW team with a loss to Creighton and rated a little less highly?   

Of course we can always get Creighton twice later....maybe the math is better if Creighton ranked higher. I know the math differentials are minor here.

Any other team my BE allegiance says Creighton...But I want UW and MU to be undefeated for a showdown. So I'm rooting for UW on that bases.
We absolutely want Creighton to win. Better for the Big East resume. If Big East resume is good, more teams make it to the dance.

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 15, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
There is no situation in which it is better for Marquette for a non-Big East team to beat a Big East team....unless Notre Dame came back. They can always lose.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 15, 2016, 02:16:36 PM
Better for Creighton to win because we play them twice. In terms of the RPI factor of opponent's record, they count double what UW does. When you get to the next factor, opponent's opponents record, it's even more important because every other Big East team also plays them twice. In that regard, Creighton winning is roughly 18x more important to us.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: barfolomew on November 15, 2016, 02:53:59 PM
We don't want them beat.

Out... of commission.

(https://empireofjeff.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/cobra_kai.jpg)
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 15, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Some pre game articles on tonights big Creighton UW game.

http://www.omaha.com/creighton/blog/creighton-s-wisconsin-native-looking-forward-to-playing-the-badgers/article_c890cae0-ab44-11e6-97f3-87cb30dfa9f7.html

http://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/bluejays-want-to-stay-within-themselves-in-battle-with-top/article_4c20bddf-8354-56b5-b111-59f05cbfb824.html

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 15, 2016, 05:13:51 PM
Some pre game articles on tonights big Creighton UW game.

http://www.omaha.com/creighton/blog/creighton-s-wisconsin-native-looking-forward-to-playing-the-badgers/article_c890cae0-ab44-11e6-97f3-87cb30dfa9f7.html

http://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/bluejays-want-to-stay-within-themselves-in-battle-with-top/article_4c20bddf-8354-56b5-b111-59f05cbfb824.html

Awesome!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 15, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Georgetown snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.

JT3 is on the hot seat.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 15, 2016, 08:04:50 PM
Just when I thought I'd never see a worse choke job than UNI in last year's NCAA tournament it took about 8 basketball game days worth of college basketball for Georgetown to upend them. I think Maryland got 8(?) free throws without even inbounding the basketball in the last 30 seconds of the game, all while trailing the Hoyas by as much as 6 inside 30 seconds. That was absolutely horrendous.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 15, 2016, 08:08:12 PM
Just when I thought I'd never see a worse choke job than UNI in last year's NCAA tournament it took about 8 basketball game days worth of college basketball for Georgetown to upend them. I think Maryland got 8(?) free throws without even inbounding the basketball in the last 30 seconds of the game, all while trailing the Hoyas by as much as 6 inside 30 seconds. That was absolutely horrendous.

Don't forget Gtown traveled and stepped out of bounds to give the ball back too.

That was the worst thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Benny B on November 15, 2016, 08:11:31 PM
Just when I thought I'd never see a worse choke job than UNI in last year's NCAA tournament it took about 8 basketball game days worth of college basketball for Georgetown to upend them. I think Maryland got 8(?) free throws without even inbounding the basketball in the last 30 seconds of the game, all while trailing the Hoyas by as much as 6 inside 30 seconds. That was absolutely horrendous.

5 point lead with 0:19 to go.  3 fouls and two turnovers (traveling and OB).   Smh, G-Town.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 15, 2016, 08:11:43 PM
I didn't see the entire game, but Rodney Pryor was everything I expected him to be. He can hit shots at times, but has bad shot selection and a poor understanding of when to shoot and when to give it up. Kid was trying too much hero ball and not enough team ball. Needs to settle his game down to be a factor against quality teams.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 15, 2016, 08:11:54 PM
Hey hoyasincbirth, your team effing sucks.  JT-III is an absolute moron and the 'lady' Hoyas haven't been relevant since Alonzo.  Never come back here and say how great 'this year' your flop of a team will be.  Brutal.   Substituting in the Marquette women's team would have given you a better chance down the stretch. 

Did I say B-R-U-T-A-L?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 15, 2016, 08:18:23 PM
Don't forget Gtown traveled and stepped out of bounds to give the ball back too.

That was the worst thing I've ever seen.

Yup.  Just horrendous in every way possible.  The one travel where his feet just slipped from under him is somewhat just bad luck, but continually inbounding the ball into the same corner and letting them trap without using a timeout when you have 2 to burn is a joke.

Oh and speaking of timeouts, taking a timeout after your 2nd made free throw puts you up 3 with 14 seconds left while Maryland has none to use is the dumbest timeout I think I've ever seen.  Even worse than the Browns using a timeout before the first offensive play of the game last Thursday.  Just horrible.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: nyg on November 15, 2016, 08:21:54 PM
5 point lead with 0:19 to go.  3 fouls and two turnovers (traveling and OB).   Smh, G-Town.

Half their points came on free throws. 37 for 42 from line.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 15, 2016, 08:24:45 PM
Missed the end. I'll give them this, they were more fun to watch. I mean, at least until they presumably threw up on their collective shoes.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: source? on November 15, 2016, 08:39:06 PM
Holy hell that was bad.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on November 15, 2016, 08:43:13 PM
Hey hoyasincbirth, your team effing sucks.  JT-III is an absolute moron and the 'lady' Hoyas haven't been relevant since Alonzo.  Never come back here and say how great 'this year' your flop of a team will be.  Brutal.   Substituting in the
Marquette women's team would have given you a better chance down the stretch. 

Did I say B-R-U-T-A-L?

Somebody's cranky. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 15, 2016, 08:44:07 PM
That was the difference between good and bad coaching.  Worse than Buzz's choke job in Louisville. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 15, 2016, 08:52:28 PM
Somebody's cranky. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 15, 2016, 08:54:03 PM
For some reason I'd be fine seeing Georgetown, Creighton, and Seton Hall lose every game that isn't against UW or ND.  Georgetown because they're the new BE's ND (forever overrated, think their crap don't stink), Creighton because they remind me of the Badgers, and Seton Hall because they always seem to have a few punks on their team.

So seeing the Hoyas lose in that fashion was kind of fun to me.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 15, 2016, 09:15:59 PM
This Patton kid on Creighton is good.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 15, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
We're talking about Gtown here. They pissed down their leg worse than I've seen in a very long time.  And yet many of their faithful believe they are 'superior' to the rest of the teams in our beloved conference.  They are the only team in the conference that I actively root against only supporting them when their defeat hurts the rest of us.  Like tonight.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 15, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
We're talking about Gtown here. They pissed down their leg worse than I've seen in a very long time.  And yet many of their faithful believe they are 'superior' to the rest of the teams in our beloved conference.  They are the only team in the conference that I actively root against only supporting them when their defeat hurts the rest of us.  Like tonight.

Sheeees....maybe so, but take it easy on our hoyasincebirth...it's been nice birth.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 15, 2016, 09:20:16 PM
Nice freakin run Creighton!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 15, 2016, 09:25:27 PM
I have been to quite a few Creighton games. A tremendous basketball environment. Crowd is helping them tonight.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: forgetful on November 15, 2016, 09:26:57 PM
Hey hoyasincbirth, your team effing sucks.  JT-III is an absolute moron and the 'lady' Hoyas haven't been relevant since Alonzo.  Never come back here and say how great 'this year' your flop of a team will be.  Brutal.   Substituting in the Marquette women's team would have given you a better chance down the stretch. 

Did I say B-R-U-T-A-L?

They totally screwed the chances at a BE undefeated non-conference season.  All loses in the non-conference by BE teams are now there fault, because all teams lost the motivation that comes with going undefeated.  Thanks Georgetown.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 15, 2016, 09:32:54 PM
Why does nobody call out DFW Hoya only Hoyasincebirth?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ecompt on November 15, 2016, 09:39:33 PM
You could give JT 3 the Cavaliers and he'd screw them up. He recruits kids who don't understand basketball, then teaches them nothing. If he had any other last name he'd be a D-II assistant.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 15, 2016, 09:45:47 PM
Bjays should have this, unless coach mcdermott is channeling JTIII.  Up 6 w the ball w 47 seconds left
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 15, 2016, 09:48:26 PM
You could give JT 3 the Cavaliers and he'd screw them up. He recruits kids who don't understand basketball, then teaches them nothing. If he had any other last name he'd be a D-II assistant.

Agreed. He looked like a deer in the headlights on the sidelines as his team threw one away. As Glow said, B-R-U-T-A-L

OTOH, the Bluejays looked poised pulling away from Wisconsin. Good for them.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 15, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
Boom.  And boom.  Over.  Very nice.79-67 final
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 15, 2016, 09:49:36 PM
Heck of a game by Creighton. Watson is a stud, though we knew that already. They're going to be a really tough team this year. They definitely look the part of a top-3 team in the league.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 15, 2016, 09:51:14 PM
Creighton looked great. Tremendous atmosphere lots of community support. Good win for the Big East. McDermott is a very good coach.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: forgetful on November 15, 2016, 10:02:23 PM
Creighton looked great.  Happ looked terrible.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on November 15, 2016, 10:05:42 PM
 What a win by Creighton! Watson reminds me of Dominic James with a shot.   He might be the most exciting player to watch in all of college basketball ...  oh and Bucky 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: BM1090 on November 15, 2016, 10:21:34 PM
Hey hoyasincbirth, your team effing sucks.  JT-III is an absolute moron and the 'lady' Hoyas haven't been relevant since Alonzo.  Never come back here and say how great 'this year' your flop of a team will be.  Brutal.   Substituting in the Marquette women's team would have given you a better chance down the stretch. 

Did I say B-R-U-T-A-L?

Lol this seems harsh..

Not a Big East result, so tell me to put it elsewhere if needed...but Vandy had a comfortable bounce back win @ Belmont tonight
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GB Warrior on November 15, 2016, 10:35:44 PM
Trade Georgetown for Dayton
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MuMark on November 15, 2016, 10:39:16 PM
Lol this seems harsh..

Not a Big East result, so tell me to put it elsewhere if needed...but Vandy had a comfortable bounce back win @ Belmont tonight

@Vandy I believe.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: CreightonWarrior on November 15, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
What a win by Creighton! Watson reminds me of Dominic James with a shot.   He might be the most exciting player to watch in all of college basketball ...  oh and Bucky 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Plaque Lives Matter! on November 15, 2016, 10:51:46 PM
Trade Georgetown for Dayton

+1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: BM1090 on November 15, 2016, 11:21:16 PM
@Vandy I believe.

You are correct. I mixed it up.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 16, 2016, 12:44:03 AM
Just when I thought I'd never see a worse choke job than UNI in last year's NCAA tournament it took about 8 basketball game days worth of college basketball for Georgetown to upend them. I think Maryland got 8(?) free throws without even inbounding the basketball in the last 30 seconds of the game, all while trailing the Hoyas by as much as 6 inside 30 seconds. That was absolutely horrendous.

UNI was worse. Up 12 with 42 seconds left. That was an enjoyable night.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: 🏀 on November 16, 2016, 06:12:35 AM
Trade Georgetown for Dayton

Hey, let's not say things we can't take back.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 16, 2016, 06:18:54 AM
Creighton looked great. Tremendous atmosphere lots of community support. Good win for the Big East. McDermott is a very good coach.

+1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: warriorchick on November 16, 2016, 07:11:18 AM
@Vandy I believe.

Basically the same thing. The schools are literally walking distance from each other.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 16, 2016, 07:58:02 AM
Northwestern at Butler tonight 6 central time Fox Sports 1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: naginiF on November 16, 2016, 08:41:19 AM
Basically the same thing. The schools are literally walking distance from each other.
*inadvertently resuscitates inane UW Milwaukee vs. Marquette 'rivalry' conversation*
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GB Warrior on November 16, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
*inadvertently resuscitates inane UW Milwaukee vs. Marquette 'rivalry' conversation*

Off-topic, and I apologize if this was discussed elsehwhere, but I just realized that DePaul will be playing UWM this year. Seems like a more sustainable long-term matchup...
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: cheebs09 on November 16, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
Off-topic, and I apologize if this was discussed elsehwhere, but I just realized that DePaul will be playing UWM this year. Seems like a more sustrightble long-term matchup...

I believe this is the third time they've played in the last few years. I think they had a home and home in the past.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Coleman on November 16, 2016, 09:39:02 AM
Results have been great so far. I don't like seeing the Big East lose, and the way Georgetown lost was especially frustrating, but if I had to pick a team to lose, I'd pick Georgetown. So I can live with it, especially after Creighton smacked down Bucky.

Things are looking good for the conference so far.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 16, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
Off-topic, and I apologize if this was discussed elsehwhere, but I just realized that DePaul will be playing UWM this year. Seems like a more sustrightble long-term matchup...

UWM playing at Depaul will make them appreciate their fan support at the Panther arena
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on November 16, 2016, 10:02:28 AM
Results have been great so far. I don't like seeing the Big East lose, and the way Georgetown lost was especially frustrating, but if I had to pick a team to lose, I'd pick Georgetown. So I can live with it, especially after Creighton smacked down Bucky.

Things are looking good for the conference so far.

Agree here...nice to see...I'm hoping by this weekend BE is at a 90% win clip (including two more for MU  ;) )

Georgetown first loss bursts that minor fantasy of the undefeated BE...we'll be bursting fantasy bubbles soon enough for MU undefeated; MU BE champs; etc...  But whats great are the things that aren't fantasy but real possibilities. MU beating ranked teams; MU in NCAA tourney; MU being ranked; MU great season.  Not realities. They have work to do...but a real hope.



Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 16, 2016, 10:20:47 AM
Trade Georgetown for Dayton

Gtown fans just might say the same thing after our game against Michigan. Karma has a way of biting you in the a$$.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ecompt on November 16, 2016, 10:59:58 AM
Gtown fans just might say the same thing after our game against Michigan. Karma has a way of biting you in the a$$.
I would think we have learned that the past three years.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 16, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
I would think we have learned that the past three years.

Meh.  I doubt any Marquette fans were going over to the Georgetown forums predicting a 3 seed with the outside chance of a 1 seed the last couple years.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 16, 2016, 11:33:18 AM
Meh.  I doubt any Marquette fans were going over to the Georgetown forums predicting a 3 seed with the outside chance of a 1 seed the last couple years.

He's been called out about that so many times and refuses to acknowledge it. I find it hilarious
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Benny B on November 16, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Meh.  I doubt any Marquette fans were going over to the Georgetown forums predicting a 3 seed with the outside chance of a 1 seed the last couple years.

It's not like you had to ask....


Coming this winter: Don't miss a second of the action as Benny B takes his world-renowned online forum skilz on the road to our nation's capital.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: source? on November 16, 2016, 12:10:12 PM
Even with the loss kenpom still has us one spot behind Georgetown.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 16, 2016, 12:21:05 PM
Even with the loss kenpom still has us one spot behind Georgetown.

Source?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 16, 2016, 12:36:20 PM
Gtown fans just might say the same thing after our game against Michigan. Karma has a way of biting you in the a$$.

They'll be saying "Trade Georgetown for Dayton"?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GB Warrior on November 16, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Gtown fans just might say the same thing after our game against Michigan. Karma has a way of biting you in the a$$.

Make Sarcasm Teal Again
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 16, 2016, 12:57:01 PM
Trade Georgetown for Dayton

-1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Plaque Lives Matter! on November 16, 2016, 01:18:53 PM
Make Sarcasm Teal Again

Please include a trigger warning with all Dayton related posts.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 16, 2016, 06:55:27 PM
Northwestern up by 3 at half at Butler. Northwestern is actually a decent team. Butler seems to lack the outside shooting of years past.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 16, 2016, 08:12:55 PM
Butler pulled it out at the end and beat Northwestern 70-68. Good game at Hinkle. Kethan Savage was injured and did not play for Butler.

Big East now 17-1 non conference.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 16, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
Go Dawgs!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 17, 2016, 08:47:29 AM
Todays Big East Schedule
Courtesy of MU Panther from Dodds Site:

10:30AM - 3 Villanova vs. Western Michigan, ESPN2 - Roy Philpott, Mark Plansky
Charleston Classic 1st round
Line: Villanova -22 148
 
12:30pm - 11 Xavier vs. Missouri, ESPNU - Alvaro Martin, Cory Alexander
Tire Pros Classic 1st round
Line: Xavier -14.5 158.5
 
5:30pm - Arkansas State @ Georgetown, FS1- Brandon Gaudin & Ron Thompson
Line: Georgetown -23 156
 
6:00pm - Providence @ Ohio State, BTN - Kevin Kugler, Seth Davis
Gavitt Tip-Off Games
Line: Ohio State -6 143
 
7:45pm - Rutgers @ DePaul, FS1- Tim Brando, Bill Raftery
Gavitt Tip-Off Games
Line: DePaul -2.5 150
 
8:00pm - Seton Hall @ Iowa, BTN - Brian Anderson, Jon Crispin
Gavitt Tip-Off Games
Line: Iowa -1.5 156.5
 
8:30pm - Marquette vs. Michigan (MSG), ESPN2 - Karl Ravech, Fran Fraschilla
2K Classic semifinal
Line: Marquette -1.5 149



Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 17, 2016, 08:59:40 AM
Rutgers @ DePaul.  'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Coleman on November 17, 2016, 09:00:35 AM
Big day for the conference. Let's win em all!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MU82 on November 17, 2016, 09:02:51 AM
Rutgers @ DePaul.  'Nuff said.

Raftery will have to chat about lots of stuff that have nothing to do with the game.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Coleman on November 17, 2016, 09:04:46 AM
Obviously its way too early to matter, but the conference is crushing in terms of RPI

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MomofMUltiples on November 17, 2016, 09:11:17 AM
Rutgers @ DePaul.  'Nuff said.

I wonder if it's possible for both of them to lose.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: warriorchick on November 17, 2016, 09:27:42 AM
I wonder if it's possible for both of them to lose.

I don't know, but I am sure both teams will give it the old college try.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 17, 2016, 09:37:52 AM
I wonder if it's possible for both of them to lose.

Tie game with 1.5 seconds left and the power goes out and they are unable to restore.......
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 17, 2016, 09:43:12 AM
Obviously its way too early to matter, but the conference is crushing in terms of RPI

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Power Ranking:

Michigan 47
Marquette 60

Why?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Coleman on November 17, 2016, 09:47:42 AM
Power Ranking:

Michigan 47
Marquette 60

Why?

RPI means even less for individual teams now than it does for conferences.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: BM1090 on November 17, 2016, 09:49:36 AM
RPI means even less for individual teams now than it does for conferences.

And if you're going to use an RPI site, use liverpi.com or rpiforecast.com.

Those tools are much more accurate
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: warriorchick on November 17, 2016, 10:01:07 AM
Power Ranking:

Michigan 47
Marquette 60

Why?

Why not? 

Who cares? 

Being underestimated is to our advantage.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: The Lens on November 17, 2016, 12:43:29 PM
Quote
7:45pm - Rutgers @ DePaul, FS1- Tim Brando, Bill Raftery
Gavitt Tip-Off Games
Line: DePaul -2.5 150
 
8:30pm - Marquette vs. Michigan (MSG), ESPN2 - Karl Ravech, Fran Fraschilla
2K Classic semifinal
Line: Marquette -1.5 149

Bill, we're gonna let you get drunk in Chicago

And I have no use for Ravech or Fran.  Was hoping for Shulman or Paasch.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 17, 2016, 12:52:46 PM
Western Michigan gave Nova a solid effort but they survived the trap game.  Tired legs after the emotional road win at Purdue.  Win and advance.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Benny B on November 17, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
Bill, we're gonna let you get drunk in Chicago

And I have no use for Ravech or Fran.  Was hoping for Shulman or Paasch.

Fran's another one for the moron bucket.  Still remember him as the guy back in '08 or '09 where he left MU off his ESPN power rankings ballot at the point in the season where MU was on every other ballot somewhere between #8 and #12.  He's one of those "read from the cheat sheet" color guys if you ask me.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Coleman on November 17, 2016, 01:15:12 PM
Fran's another one for the moron bucket.  Still remember him as the guy back in '08 or '09 where he left MU off his ESPN power rankings ballot at the point in the season where MU was on every other ballot somewhere between #8 and #12.  He's one of those "read from the cheat sheet" color guys if you ask me.

Remember when he almost came to coach under Crean?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 17, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
X is laboring against Mizzou right now. Sumner missed 4 FTs in a row and now they are in OT. Might have underestimated how valuable Myles Davis is.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 17, 2016, 02:46:25 PM
Macura being heads up bails X out

They escape.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 17, 2016, 02:50:38 PM
Trade Georgetown for Dayton

Well the Flyers are flying in style.

http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clintons-campaign-plane-repurposed-for-charter-flights/
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 17, 2016, 02:52:29 PM
Sumner missed his 5th free throw in a row before sinking the game winner. Couldn't imagine the meltdown that would have happened on XScoop had he missed the second
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Benny B on November 17, 2016, 03:05:40 PM
Well the Flyers are flying in style.

http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clintons-campaign-plane-repurposed-for-charter-flights/

OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG..... so..... many...... jokes...... must..... not..... threadjack......
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 17, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
Well the Flyers are flying in style.

http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clintons-campaign-plane-repurposed-for-charter-flights/

OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG..... so..... many...... jokes...... must..... not..... threadjack......

Uhh...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wisn.relaymedia.com/amp/article/hillary-clintons-plane-was-in-milwaukee-on-tuesday/8297713
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: fjm on November 17, 2016, 03:22:19 PM
We are using the same plane... so whatever you're about to say about Dayton...
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bradley center bat on November 17, 2016, 03:34:22 PM
Bill, we're gonna let you get drunk in Chicago

And I have no use for Ravech or Fran.  Was hoping for Shulman or Paasch.
Dave Pasch does college football this time of the year.

Does suck that we have the baseball tonight studio guy doing play by play.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Benny B on November 17, 2016, 04:26:03 PM
We are using the same plane... so whatever you're about to say about Dayton...

Ahhh, mother f*%&@(#$%$%(#T^(#$()%^()$#%*$#)(%*)$#(*.   Damn it.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GB Warrior on November 17, 2016, 05:53:29 PM
STRONGER TOGETHER WITH KOSTAS
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on November 17, 2016, 05:59:23 PM
Georgetown looking putrid against Sun Belt Power Arkansas State (picked to finish 10th in the 12 team conference this year), down 20-10   27-10   32-12 half way through the 1st.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 17, 2016, 06:04:18 PM
Georgetown looking putrid against Sun Belt Power Arkansas State (picked to finish 10th in the 12 team conference this year), down 20-10 27-10 half way through the 1st.

I just clicked in and said 'Georgetown sucks!'  They might come back to win but to not be prepared tonight is inexcusable.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 17, 2016, 06:06:13 PM
Villanova and Xavier win put the Big East at 19-1. No 1 conference RPI right now.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Georgetown needs to get its act together.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 17, 2016, 06:26:10 PM
Villanova and Xavier win put the Big East at 19-1. No 1 conference RPI right now.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Georgetown needs to get its act together.

Stick a fork in 'em.  They should fire JT-III at halftime.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GB Warrior on November 17, 2016, 06:30:41 PM
Trade Georgetown for Dayton

I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on November 17, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
Stick a fork in 'em.  They should fire JT-III at halftime.

They managed to cut the deficit from 23 to 19 at half time  ;D

Reminiscent of us against Omaha and NJIT a few years back, only G'town doesn't have the excuse of having no depth, height, or talent, just a crap coach.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Skitch on November 17, 2016, 07:02:25 PM
Where are they playing that game?  That gym looks like it holds about 500 people.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MomofMUltiples on November 17, 2016, 07:05:27 PM
On campus.  Kind of like us playing at the Al.

Providence seems to be coming back from a 10 point deficit at the half against Ohio State.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 17, 2016, 07:25:05 PM
On campus.  Kind of like us playing at the Al.

Providence seems to be coming back from a 10 point deficit at the half against Ohio State.

Except the Al holds 4500.  That HS gym looks like it holds 450.

I hope Georgetown goes 0-18 in conference.  B-R-U-T-A-L.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MomofMUltiples on November 17, 2016, 07:31:56 PM
And Providence is down by ten again.  We'll take two off of them.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GB Warrior on November 17, 2016, 07:38:04 PM
And Providence is down by ten again.  We'll take two off of them.
 

I think Providence lost - by far - the most talent in the conference. Bentil wasn't an NBA fit, but he was a monster last year. Including against us 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: T-Bone on November 17, 2016, 07:43:16 PM
Prov and Gtown making comebacks.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 17, 2016, 07:52:41 PM
Prov and Gtown making comebacks.

Ha. See ya.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on November 17, 2016, 07:53:48 PM
Hoyas going to have to settle for a 2 seed
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 17, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
JT3=Joey Meyer
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: T-Bone on November 17, 2016, 07:55:24 PM
Well they came back, but not far enough! Georgetown, the Dayton of the east.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 17, 2016, 07:58:11 PM
And now DePaul has roughly 11-14 people at their game.  You think I'm kidding? 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 17, 2016, 07:58:24 PM
Just wanted to come back to say...Lol, Rodney Pryor.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 17, 2016, 08:04:18 PM
Just sayin':  let's win a few before we puff our chests.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GGGG on November 17, 2016, 08:08:39 PM
JT3=Joey Meyer


Not really.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 17, 2016, 08:20:56 PM
Ohio State beat Providence 72-67 in Columbus
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 17, 2016, 10:12:27 PM
With Seton Hall winning at Iowa worst Big East can do in Gavitt Tip-Off Games is 4-4 vs. Big Ten.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Newsdreams on November 17, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
With Seton Hall winning at Iowa worst Big East can do in Gavitt Tip-Off Games is 4-4 vs. Big Ten.
But we lost to UM
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 18, 2016, 04:10:22 AM
But we lost to UM

Not part of Gavitt games.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 18, 2016, 07:48:18 AM
12:30pm - 3 Villanova vs. Wake Forest, ESPN2 - Roy Philpott, Mark Plansky
 Charleston Classic semifinal
 Line:

 12:30pm - Clemson vs. 11 Xavier, ESPNU - Álvaro Martín, Cory Alexander
 Tire Pros Invitational semifinal
 Line:

 3:30pm - Pitt vs. Marquette ESPN2 - Karl Ravech, Fran Fraschilla
 2K Classic 3rd place
 Line:

 7:30pm - Washington State vs 23 Creighton- no tv
 Paradise Jam- 1st round
 Line: Creighton -15 156

 8:00pm - St. John's @ Minnesota, BTN- Jeff Levering, Stephen Bardo
 Gavitt Tip-Off Games
 Line: Minnesota -7 150
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 18, 2016, 08:44:31 AM
Big East Now 20-5 non conference. Big East number 1 in conference RPI
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Loose Cannon on November 18, 2016, 09:10:27 AM
JT3=Joey Meyer

  Try checking Joey's record Jimmy.  You might find shooting from the hip gets you a bad rep.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 19, 2016, 10:44:51 AM
Big East Non Conference Record 23-7

Still first in Conference RPI

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Todays Games

12:00 PM ET   Grambling St at Providence   FOX Sports 2

1:00 PM ET Bucknell at Butler FSN affiliates.

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 19, 2016, 02:26:12 PM
Butler beat Bucknell
Providence beat Grambling

Big East now 25-7 non conference.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2016, 09:54:40 AM
DePaul beat Milwaukee(UWM)
Xavier Beat Northern Iowa- A Rematch is coming up this week.
Creighton Beat NC State
Villanova Beat UCF

Big East now 29-7

Big number 1 conference RPI have number one strength of schedule as well.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Todays Games:
Courtesy of MUPanther from Dodds site
4:00 - Georgetown vs 4 Oregon, ESPN2 - Roxy Bernstein, Bill Walton
Maui Jim Maui Invitational quarterfinal
5:30pm - St. Francis (NY) @ Providence, FS1 Alex Faust & Tarik Turner
7:30pm - Norfolk State @ Butler, FS1 -Vince Welch, & Nick Bahe
7:30pm- 22 Creighton vs Ole Miss, CBSSN-Darren Goldwater, Kevin Lehman, Monyka Johnigan
Paradise Jam Championship Game

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
Georgetown very good win over Oregon. 65-61.
Providence beat St. Francis.

Looking for good performances from Creighton and Butler tonight
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2016, 07:47:32 PM
Georgetown is just Fing weird.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2016, 08:00:01 PM
Georgetown is just Fing weird.

The only thing consistent about JTIII is his inconsistency.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
Creighton Wins over Missippi
Butler Wins over Norfolk State

Big East Now 33-7 Non conference
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on November 21, 2016, 09:36:19 PM
Creighton looks tough
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
Creighton looks tough
They have a coach who knows how to win and he has been very smart about how he has assembled their roster. Notice how they have an appropriate depth of players at each position.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2016, 09:54:26 PM
They have a coach who knows how to win and he has been very smart about how he has assembled their roster. Notice how they have an appropriate depth of players at each position.

They also have a coach who has been there for 7 years and has his system and all his players in place.

He also went 14-15 in his first season as a head coach and 11-17 in his second season as a head coach.  He then went 59-68 at Iowa State and has made the NCAA Tournament once in 3 seasons since joining the Big East, when his son was a senior who would've been 2 years into the NBA had he not been playing for his dad.

But who's counting anyway?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 21, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
They also have a coach who has been there for 7 years and has his system and all his players in place.

He also went 14-15 in his first season as a head coach and 11-17 in his second season as a head coach.  He then went 59-68 at Iowa State and has made the NCAA Tournament once in 3 seasons since joining the Big East, when his son was a senior who would've been 2 years into the NBA had he not been playing for his dad.

But who's counting anyway?

For the record...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_McDermott
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2016, 10:02:11 PM
They also have a coach who has been there for 7 years and has his system and all his players in place.

He also went 14-15 in his first season as a head coach and 11-17 in his second season as a head coach.  He then went 59-68 at Iowa State and has made the NCAA Tournament once in 3 seasons since joining the Big East, when his son was a senior who would've been 2 years into the NBA had he not been playing for his dad.


But who's counting anyway?
He rallied back after his son graduated . Assembled a new crop of talent and has the program in a very good place and sold out arena every night. He understands how to win. 419 career wins. 6 NCAA tournaments.

Creighton has done a good job of making the most of their Big East Opportunity.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2016, 10:11:04 PM
He rallied back after his son graduated . Assembled a new crop of talent and has the program in a very good place and sold out arena every night. He understands how to win. 419 career wins. 6 NCAA tournaments.

Creighton has done a good job of making the most of their Big East Opportunity.

Awesome.  In his 14th year as a D1 college head basketball coach he "rallied back" after his son graduated.

He did go 14-19 the year after his son graduated, and then had an NIT season the year after, and hasn't made an NCAA Tournament since.  Oh, and hasn't made an NCAA Tournament since Wojo has taken over at Marquette, but again, who's counting?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2016, 10:21:54 PM
Awesome.  In his 14th year as a D1 college head basketball coach he "rallied back" after his son graduated.

He did go 14-19 the year after his son graduated, and then had an NIT season the year after, and hasn't made an NCAA Tournament since.  Oh, and hasn't made an NCAA Tournament since Wojo has taken over at Marquette, but again, who's counting?
Creighton did very well last year, when they made the NIT and we will find out if they make the NCAA this year. It is clear they are performing well. I would gladly take their coach and their entire roster in trade for ours. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 21, 2016, 10:25:52 PM
Creighton did very well last year, when they made the NIT and we will find out if they make the NCAA this year. It is clear they are performing well. I would gladly take their coach and their entire roster in trade for ours.

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MU82 on November 21, 2016, 10:42:18 PM
Awesome.  In his 14th year as a D1 college head basketball coach he "rallied back" after his son graduated.

He did go 14-19 the year after his son graduated, and then had an NIT season the year after, and hasn't made an NCAA Tournament since.  Oh, and hasn't made an NCAA Tournament since Wojo has taken over at Marquette, but again, who's counting?

wades, please stop with the facts and stats and stuff. Such things aren't welcome by some here.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GGGG on November 22, 2016, 08:52:59 AM
Creighton did very well last year, when they made the NIT and we will find out if they make the NCAA this year. It is clear they are performing well. I would gladly take their coach and their entire roster in trade for ours. 


Really I just can't respond to this kind of crap any more.  Greg McDermott is a nice coach.  Over the course of time he will get some teams in the NCAAs and maybe win a game.  But that's all he really is.  He's a mellower Mike Deane.

I'd roll the dice with a younger guy with upside any day of the week.  And if that doesn't work out, I would do it again.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bilsu on November 22, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
Georgetown is just Fing weird.
Georgetown had to play the first 4 games without their center who was granted a sixth year, but he sat out the first four games. Why the NCAA does this is fling weird to me. Either give the player a 6th year or do not give him a 6th year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 22, 2016, 11:49:01 AM
Tonights Big East Schedule
Eastern Time
7:30 PM   IUPUI at Marquette   FOX Sports 1

8:00 PM   #16 Wisconsin vs Georgetown ESPN2
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bradley center bat on November 22, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
MU is a 13. 5 point favorite
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: KampusFoods on November 22, 2016, 01:18:08 PM

Really I just can't respond to this kind of crap any more.

He says in a response
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 22, 2016, 08:56:55 PM
Hoyas make good on promises to open up the offense winning 105-60 over USC Upstate. Scored 68 points in the half most in school history.

Rodney Pryor scored 32 points going 6/8 from 3pt range Posting an efficiency rating of 179.3 8-)

Hoyas continue to make good on that promise to open up that offense!

Rowsey might be able to grab 15 offensive rebounds against Georgetown this year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 22, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
With MU Win and Georgetown loss the Big East is now 34-8.

Also looking at the schedule it appears as if the Big East schools have schedule a number of the same opponents. I wonder if a conference directive of sorts came down. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 22, 2016, 09:06:26 PM
With MU Win and Georgetown loss the Big East is now 34-8.

Also looking at the schedule it appears as if the Big East schools have schedule a number of the same opponents. I wonder if a conference directive of sorts came down.

Yeah, the Big East sent out a directive telling Creighton they had to make sure that they matched up with UW in the Gavitt games and Georgetown that they had to beat Oregon to match up with UW in the Maui Invite so that they could make sure to both play the in state rival MU played every year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 22, 2016, 09:07:29 PM
Also looking at the schedule it appears as if the Big East schools have schedule a number of the same opponents. I wonder if a conference directive of sorts came down.

If the directive was to schedule the same buy games, someone should be out of a job.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Newsdreams on November 22, 2016, 09:48:18 PM
With MU Win and Georgetown loss the Big East is now 34-8.

Also looking at the schedule it appears as if the Big East schools have schedule a number of the same opponents. I wonder if a conference directive of sorts came down.
Sometimes I read your posts and think, forgot to use teal. But then see it is you  :P
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 23, 2016, 01:10:59 PM
6:00 - Col. of Charleston @ 2 Villanova, FS1 - Scott Graham, Bob Wenzel
Line: Villanova -22

6:00 - 24 Michigan State vs. St. John's, AXS TV - Kenny Rice, Seth Davis
Battle 4 Atlantis 1st round
Line: Michigan State -7

6:30 - Georgetown vs. Oklahoma State, ESPN2 - Dan Shulman, Jay Bilas
Maui Invitational 3rd place
Line: Oklahoma State -2.5

7:00 - Missouri State @ DePaul, FSN -Brandon Gaudin, Stephen Bardo
Line: Missouri State -1.5

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 23, 2016, 06:26:39 PM
The Johnnies are holding their own against MSU up 15-9 with 11:50 left first half.  St. Johns has some athletic talent.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on November 23, 2016, 06:54:27 PM
The Johnnies are holding their own against MSU up 15-9 with 11:50 left first half.  St. Johns has some athletic talent.
Backcourt is very talented
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 23, 2016, 07:11:35 PM
Backcourt is very talented
Half time MSU 32 SJU 29. Will be interesting to see if SJU can hang with the Spartans in the second half.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MuMark on November 23, 2016, 07:15:06 PM
Hoyas look like they have quit on JT3. Serious lack of effort going on.

Hopefully they find some energy soon.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 23, 2016, 07:23:29 PM
Johnnies hanging in there. A very fun game to watch. Tum Tum Nairn playing in his hometown is going off tonight.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 23, 2016, 07:57:01 PM
MSU starting to pull away from St. Johns with 5 minutes left in game. A very strong MSU team and St. Johns hung with them for a long period of time. The crowd is very much pro Michigan State so it is a good experience for the Johnnies. I think as St Johns gets more experience they are going to be a very tough squad.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 23, 2016, 09:19:59 PM
DePaul hangs on against Missouri State
Villanova beat College of Charleston
MSU beat St. Johns
Oklahoma State beat Georgetown

Big East Now 37-10
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 23, 2016, 09:35:15 PM
DePaul hangs on against Missouri State
Villanova beat College of Charleston
MSU beat St. Johns
Oklahoma State beat Georgetown

Big East Now 37-10

How's that record compare to B12, B10, ACC?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 23, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
How's that record compare to B12, B10, ACC?
Number 1 RPI Conference on Number 1 Strength of Schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 23, 2016, 09:51:52 PM
DePaul down big most of the game. Big rally at the end. Billy Garrett Jr hit a 10 foot buzzer beater. 68-66
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 24, 2016, 08:15:38 AM
6:00 - VCU vs St. John's, AXS TV - Kenny Rice, Seth Davis, Tom Walsh
Battle 4 Atlantis consolation

7:00 - Butler vs. Vanderbilt, FS1 - Justin Kutcher, Bill Raftery
Las Vegas Invitational semifinal

7:30 - Seton Hall vs. Florida, ESPN2 - Mike Morgan, Brad Daugherty
AdvoCare Invitational 1st round

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 24, 2016, 09:06:12 PM
Butler over Vandy 76-66
VCU 75 the Johnnies 69
Seton Hall up over Florida in second half 47-42

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 24, 2016, 09:36:49 PM
Seton Hall in a good one with Florida. Gators up 62-59 with under 7 to play. Hall getting some of their own medicine, blocked frequently in close under the hoop.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 24, 2016, 09:44:14 PM
I'm trying to figure out Seton halls offense. It seems like they just try to iso and very offensive boards.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 24, 2016, 10:06:36 PM
Florida Beat Seton Hal 81-76l. Florida was essentially playing at home as game was played in Orlando. Florida had a couple of pogo stick type guys who were very intimidating to the Seton Hall ruffians.

Big East now 38-12.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 24, 2016, 11:10:37 PM
I'm trying to figure out Seton halls offense. It seems like they just try to iso and very offensive boards.

I've never thought Willard was a great coach. He may have found lightning in a bottle with Whitehead last year, and he certainly has the players this year, but how he never managed to get Fuquan Edwin to the tourney, especially when they had Theodore and Pope around him, was just baffling.

Watching them tonight, they kept feeding and attacking the post despite getting blocked repeatedly. They shot okay from outside, but too often they seemed content to attack Egbunu inside instead of kicking out to an open man. They have some truly quality players, but the basketball IQ doesn't seem that high. I think that's pretty characteristic of Kevin Willard teams.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 25, 2016, 10:10:02 AM
6:30pm- Quinnipiac vs Seton Hall, ESPNU - Mike Morgan, Brad Daugherty
Advocare Invitational
Line: Seton Hall -22

8:30 - Memphis vs. Providence, CBS SN- Brad Johansen, Doug Gottlieb
Emerald Coast Classic semifinal
Line: Providence -2.5

8:30pm St. John's vs. Old Dominion, AXS TV - Kenny Rice, Seth Davis, Tom Walsh
Battle 4 Atlantis 7th place
Line: St. John's -1

9:30 - Butler vs. 8 Arizona, FS1 - Justin Kutcher, Bill Raftery
Las Vegas Invitational championship
Line: Butler -1

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUMountin on November 25, 2016, 11:15:00 AM
How's that record compare to B12, B10, ACC?

Not sure overall, but here is the head-to-head records between the Power 6 conferences:

Power 6 Head to Head
ACC (8-5, .615)
Big East (13-10, .565)
B1G (12-12, .500)
Big XII (7-5, .583)
Pac 12 (4-5, .444)
SEC (4-11, .266)

http://holylandofhoops.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5653&sid=74bc21a3111f81179cfee3b9ce50fab9&start=50

(updated through yesterday's games)
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: 79Warrior on November 25, 2016, 11:27:56 AM
6:30pm- Quinnipiac vs Seton Hall, ESPNU - Mike Morgan, Brad Daugherty
Advocare Invitational
Line: Seton Hall -22

8:30 - Memphis vs. Providence, CBS SN- Brad Johansen, Doug Gottlieb
Emerald Coast Classic semifinal
Line: Providence -2.5

8:30pm St. John's vs. Old Dominion, AXS TV - Kenny Rice, Seth Davis, Tom Walsh
Battle 4 Atlantis 7th place
Line: St. John's -1

9:30 - Butler vs. 8 Arizona, FS1 - Justin Kutcher, Bill Raftery
Las Vegas Invitational championship
Line: Butler -1

Tough draw for Butler. This will be a home game for Zona. Their fans travel in huge numbers.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 25, 2016, 05:38:25 PM
6:30pm- Quinnipiac vs Seton Hall, ESPNU - Mike Morgan, Brad Daugherty
Advocare Invitational
Line: Seton Hall -22

8:30 - Memphis vs. Providence, CBS SN- Brad Johansen, Doug Gottlieb
Emerald Coast Classic semifinal
Line: Providence -2.5

8:30pm St. John's vs. Old Dominion, AXS TV - Kenny Rice, Seth Davis, Tom Walsh
Battle 4 Atlantis 7th place
Line: St. John's -1

9:30 - Butler vs. 8 Arizona, FS1 - Justin Kutcher, Bill Raftery
Las Vegas Invitational championship
Line: Butler -1

Is that line right?  Butler favored by one?  Wish I was in Vegas as I would be putting some coin down on Zona.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: RideMyBuycks on November 25, 2016, 07:04:31 PM
Is that line right?  Butler favored by one?  Wish I was in Vegas as I would be putting some coin down on Zona.

I see Zona +1.5 now. Maybe a Black Friday deal?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 09:16:48 PM
Seton Hall beat Quinnipiac 90-79. I have watched a few Seton Hall games and they don't have a great offensive concept. As others have stated they are kind of a street ball type of team.

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
Anyone watching the Butler-Arizona game? My lord is Arizona a tall team, and Butler has some size too.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 10:22:21 PM
Anyone watching the Butler-Arizona game? My lord is Arizona a tall team, and Butler has some size too.
A very good game. Butler up by 2 at the half . Arizona is definitely big.
Title: Butler
Post by: keefe on November 25, 2016, 10:22:46 PM
Playing with poise, confidence, and precision against a Top 10 opponent.

Leading at the half against Arizona.
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: muhoops1 on November 25, 2016, 10:32:07 PM
Playing with poise, confidence, and precision against a Top 10 opponent.

Leading at the half against Arizona.

I'm into it
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 10:39:49 PM
Ed Cooley and The Friars beat Memphis 60-51, they play Virginia in the tournament championship tomorrow.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 10:42:09 PM
Mullin and the Johnnies lose to ODU.
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 10:49:13 PM
Butler looking good right now - just went up 9 in the 2nd half. They have a good combination of size and outside shooting. Will be a tough team for MU to beat.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 10:50:04 PM
The Providence-Virginia game will be interesting to watch tomorrow.
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: keefe on November 25, 2016, 10:51:37 PM
A lot of Scoopers were against Butler joining the BEast. Frankly, they have proven to be a great get for the conference.

They have transitioned from Stevens very nicely, with a medical casualty thrown into the process.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 10:52:05 PM
Kemar Baldwin is a very intriguing Freshman addition for Butler, he plays with a lot of poise. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 10:57:05 PM
McDermott is an interesting Red shirt Freshman for Butler. Seems like Butler totally reloaded their team this year and have not lost a beat. They are up 51-44 11 :38 second half 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 11:07:51 PM
The crowd is full of Arizona people, it is effectively a home game for them. Crowd really getting into it. Butler still up 55-52
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 11:14:10 PM
Not anymore. Arizona just finished a 15-2 run to go up by 2.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 11:18:12 PM
Not anymore. Arizona just finished a 15-2 run to go up by 2.
Kobi Simmons is a helluva young  player for Zona.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 11:21:37 PM
Woodson and Butler have gone cold from the floor.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 11:28:10 PM
Woodson and Butler have gone cold from the floor.
Butler on a run up by 3 now. 29 seconds left.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 11:28:39 PM
And now a7-0 run by Butler to go back up 3 with 25 seconds left...what a game!
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: keefe on November 25, 2016, 11:28:39 PM
Butler ahead under .30!
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 11:29:26 PM
Heck of a game regardless who wins...
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 25, 2016, 11:32:52 PM
Butler with the win 69-65. Tremendous team effort for Butler. Butler will likely be rated this coming week.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Norm on November 25, 2016, 11:34:07 PM
Yep, great win by Butler.
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: Jay Bee on November 25, 2016, 11:43:53 PM
#BanHammer Superbar
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: keefe on November 25, 2016, 11:48:07 PM
Announcers kept saying it felt like an NCAA game
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: LAZER on November 26, 2016, 12:13:35 AM
Butler -1.5 heading into the game, Arizona struggled the night before with Santa Clara. I don't know much about Arizona, but that ranking might be inflated right now.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 26, 2016, 12:19:34 AM
Hopefully Dano didn't make it to Vegas!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 26, 2016, 12:45:47 AM
Hopefully Dano didn't make it to Vegas!

Thank god I don't bet unless I am in Vegas.  I would have lost money on that one.

Well done Butler.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 26, 2016, 12:59:25 AM
Arizona has superior size, talent, but ZERO basketball IQ. They tried to out-athlete Butler every time down the court. Butler got intimidated for a little bit, settled down, and just played smarter. Very well coached team.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 26, 2016, 07:58:16 AM
Big East now 40-13.

Big East Number 1 RPI

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Big East number one strength of schedule.
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 26, 2016, 08:09:13 AM
Butler -1.5 heading into the game, Arizona struggled the night before with Santa Clara. I don't know much about Arizona, but that ranking might be inflated right now.
Beat Michigan State to open the season in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 26, 2016, 08:09:32 AM
11:00am- Northern Iowa @ 9 Xavier, FSN - Vince Welsh, Dickey Simpkins
Line: Xavier -9

3:30- Loyola Md. @ 12 Creighton, FS2 - Steve Physioc, Nic Bahe
Line: Creighton -22

6:00pm - 7 Virginia vs Providence, CBSSN - Brad Johansen, Doug Gottlieb
Emerald Coast Championship

6:30pm - Houston Baptist @ Marquette- Jeff Levering, Stephen Bardo
Line: Marquette -23.5
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: brewcity77 on November 26, 2016, 08:13:34 AM
Beat Michigan State to open the season in Hawaii.

Not exactly the best looking win at the moment.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 26, 2016, 08:14:31 AM
Find FS2 on your TV

http://www.foxsports.com/other/story/find-fox-sports-1-on-your-tv-020214
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 26, 2016, 08:16:32 AM
Not exactly the best looking win at the moment.
When that committee looks at it in March, I'm willing to bet it will be. That being said Vegas knew something as Butler was a 1.5 point favorite.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Jay Bee on November 26, 2016, 08:16:45 AM
Where the stream at?
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: Eldon on November 26, 2016, 08:35:46 AM
A lot of Scoopers were against Butler joining the BEast. Frankly, they have proven to be a great get for the conference.

They have transitioned from Stevens very nicely, with a medical casualty thrown into the process.

Must be nice...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3yxADC4jE5W4E/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Butler
Post by: fjm on November 26, 2016, 08:44:53 AM
Must be nice...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3yxADC4jE5W4E/giphy.gif)

Kinda tough to transition from Buzz nicely when he left us a dumpster fire to begin with.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 26, 2016, 09:34:25 AM
Where the stream at?

Starting to get those misty stop and go pisses now, ey?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GGGG on November 26, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Kinda tough to transition from Buzz nicely when he left us a dumpster fire to begin with.

Staying within the philosophy of the program helps too.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 26, 2016, 06:27:40 PM
Creighton beat Loyola 82-52
Xavier Beat Northern Iowa again 64-42
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: DFW HOYA on November 26, 2016, 06:50:27 PM
Big East now 40-13.

Big East Number 1 RPI

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Big East number one strength of schedule.

Were that Georgetown could help those numbers. Instead, the Hoyas and Redmen account for eight of the 13 losses.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 26, 2016, 06:52:17 PM
Were that Georgetown could help those numbers. Instead, the Hoyas and Redmen account for eight of the 13 losses.

Marquette is not exactly killing it either.  Only two loses but other than Vanderbilt no quality wins.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 26, 2016, 08:04:12 PM
BTW,  RPI as of right now (not conference, country):

1. Xavier
2. Creighton
3. Nova
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Jay Bee on November 26, 2016, 08:09:24 PM
BTW,  RPI as of right now (not conference, country):

1. Xavier
2. Creighton
3. Nova

BTW, means zero.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 26, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Virginia 63- Providence 52
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 26, 2016, 08:17:36 PM
BTW, means zero.

Well,  better than #300, #301, and #302.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 26, 2016, 08:22:06 PM
Big East still number one in conference RPI

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 26, 2016, 09:22:09 PM
Big East 43-14
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 27, 2016, 08:42:54 AM
Virginia 63- Providence 52

Better than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 27, 2016, 10:34:28 AM
Better than I thought it would be.
Providence is better than expected. Cooley has the team playing together in a cohesive way. They may be competing for the middle third of Big East instead of bottom third as many predicted.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on November 27, 2016, 10:38:07 AM
Providence is better than expected. Cooley has the team playing together in a cohesive way. They may be competing for the middle third of Big East instead of bottom third as many predicted.
is Khalif young playing good?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 27, 2016, 10:44:33 AM
is Khalif young playing good?
He needs to build his confidence against the weaker teams. He is getting adjusted to the pace of college play.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Loose Cannon on November 27, 2016, 11:47:19 AM
He needs to build his confidence against the weaker teams. He is getting adjusted to the pace of college play.

Is that a Yes?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 27, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Is that a Yes?

He really isn't playing much, so it's hard to say. He had one big game against St. Francis, 16 points, 6 rebounds in 28 minutes, but hasn't had any other games where he played more than 13 minutes or scored more than 2 points. He is playing like a three-star true freshman. Wouldn't call it good, but there's no real shame in that.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Loose Cannon on November 27, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
He really isn't playing much, so it's hard to say. He had one big game against St. Francis, 16 points, 6 rebounds in 28 minutes, but hasn't had any other games where he played more than 13 minutes or scored more than 2 points. He is playing like a three-star true freshman. Wouldn't call it good, but there's no real shame in that.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Jay Bee on November 27, 2016, 12:03:22 PM
Is that a Yes?

Poor shooting, weak DReb'ing, tons of turnovers. Not a great start.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Loose Cannon on November 27, 2016, 12:09:54 PM
Poor shooting, weak DReb'ing, tons of turnovers. Not a great start.

Thanks, I wonder if MUFNY has the same view.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 27, 2016, 12:53:23 PM
Georgetown blowing out Howard early 22-7. Bizarre how they lost to a cupcake (Arkansas State) and beat Oregon. Lots of mid-level cupcakes the rest of the way along with La Salle on a neutral court and Syracuse away. No idea what to really make of the Hoyas yet, other than JTIII seems to have lost it.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 27, 2016, 01:31:19 PM
Thanks, I wonder if MUFNY has the same view.
I thought Brew stayed it well. He has to adjust to pace of play.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: DFW HOYA on November 27, 2016, 02:30:01 PM
Georgetown blowing out Howard early 22-7. Bizarre how they lost to a cupcake (Arkansas State) and beat Oregon. Lots of mid-level cupcakes the rest of the way along with La Salle on a neutral court and Syracuse away. No idea what to really make of the Hoyas yet, other than JTIII seems to have lost it.

Georgetown up eight, 6:21 to play. 18 turnovers.

Hoyas win by 13, 85-72.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 27, 2016, 04:02:01 PM
Georgetown up eight, 6:21 to play. 18 turnovers.

Hoyas win by 13, 85-72.
Hoyas needed a win
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 27, 2016, 07:16:29 PM
Seton Hall has individual talent but they have no offensive concept at all. Very sloppy team. Losing by 11 to Stanford.

I think Seton Hall may be more of a middle tier team in the Big East than an upper tier team.

I think the differential between MU and Seton Hall will be much less this year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 28, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
Butler's win over AZ (and Vandy  :o) puts them at 18. 

Creighton at 10, X at 8 and Nova at 2. 

Top of conference looking great early.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 28, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
Butler beat Utah on the road.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 29, 2016, 06:53:05 AM
Butler's win over AZ (and Vandy  :o) puts them at 18. 

Creighton at 10, X at 8 and Nova at 2. 

Top of conference looking great early.

At this point, all four of those teams are looking like legitimate Final Four contenders. Villanova looks like Villanova. Creighton has some nice wins, a 7-foot freshman playing like a one-and-done, and one of the best starting backcourts in the country. Butler...I'm just more impressed every year by Chris Holtmann. And Xavier is probably the least impressive of the undefeated teams.

The saving grace for us is the bottom of the conference is far less impressive. Georgetown is bad, Seton Hall seems to have reverted to Kevin Willard coaching without Whitehead. DePaul and St John's, still not there yet. If the league gets 5 bids, I like our chances. If we get 6, I love them.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on November 29, 2016, 07:05:55 AM
Quick guess that BE ends up with an 80% nonconf winning pct.

Right now we're a bit less than 75% eyeballing it.

It's optimistic but I think that's possible. I wonder what the BE nc pcts were previous years. Guess I could figure it out.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bilsu on November 29, 2016, 07:51:49 AM
At this point, all four of those teams are looking like legitimate Final Four contenders. Villanova looks like Villanova. Creighton has some nice wins, a 7-foot freshman playing like a one-and-done, and one of the best starting backcourts in the country. Butler...I'm just more impressed every year by Chris Holtmann. And Xavier is probably the least impressive of the undefeated teams.

The saving grace for us is the bottom of the conference is far less impressive. Georgetown is bad, Seton Hall seems to have reverted to Kevin Willard coaching without Whitehead. DePaul and St John's, still not there yet. If the league gets 5 bids, I like our chances. If we get 6, I love them.
The top 4 teams may just beat up on the bottom 6 teams so bad that the league may only get four bids. A team that does not go at least 2-6 against the top 4 is not likely to get a bid and 2-6 might not be good enough. MU went 2-6 last year and was not close to a bid. 3-5 against the top four might be the minimum needed. MU needs to win at home against the top 4.



Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 29, 2016, 08:21:54 AM
The top 4 teams may just beat up on the bottom 6 teams so bad that the league may only get four bids. A team that does not go at least 2-6 against the top 4 is not likely to get a bid and 2-6 might not be good enough. MU went 2-6 last year and was not close to a bid. 3-5 against the top four might be the minimum needed. MU needs to win at home against the top 4.

This isn't how the ncaa tournament works.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 29, 2016, 08:37:12 AM
This isn't how the ncaa tournament works.

It isn't, exactly, but I think there's validity in the point. There are a total of 90 wins in the league. If the top 4 teams average 11-1 against the bottom of the league, they would end up with 56 of those wins (44 against the bottom, 12 against each other).

That leaves only 34 combined league wins for the other 6 teams. If one or two stand out, we could be a six bid league. But if none of those 6 teams wins more than 7 league games (say 7-11, 7-11, 6-12, 6-12, 5-13, 3-15) they likely all get left out. This is why the best thing for the league is to have 6-7 very good teams and 3-4 pretty bad ones. In order to maximize bids, you need teams like DePaul, St. John's, and another one or two to be really bad. If your three worst teams combine for 7-8 wins, it makes it much easier for the top of the league to do enough to get into the Tournament.

Someone has to lose.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MU82 on November 29, 2016, 10:10:27 AM
In order to maximize bids, you need teams like DePaul, St. John's, and another one or two to be really bad.

I'm good with this. As long as the Warriors aren't one of the "another one or two"!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: The Equalizer on November 29, 2016, 11:23:45 AM
The top 4 teams may just beat up on the bottom 6 teams so bad that the league may only get four bids. A team that does not go at least 2-6 against the top 4 is not likely to get a bid and 2-6 might not be good enough. MU went 2-6 last year and was not close to a bid. 3-5 against the top four might be the minimum needed. MU needs to win at home against the top 4.

I would be shocked if a 12-6 Big East team does not make the NCAA tournament. 

The challenge is not losing to the bottom five although I would be nearly as shocked if an 11-7 team wth a 2-6 top four/9-1 bottom 10 record doesn't make it.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 29, 2016, 11:25:16 AM
10-8 will just about guarantee any BE team to be in the NCAA Tournament with this BE.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 29, 2016, 02:35:26 PM
Big East 45-15

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

#1 Conference RPI
#1 Strength of Schedule
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 29, 2016, 10:17:07 PM
Villanova beat Penn in a Big 5 game
Xavier  beat  North Dakota State
Creighton beat Buffalo
Johnnies lost to Delaware State

St Johns has a terrible offensive structure sort of like Seton Hall but with worse players

Big East 48-16
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on November 29, 2016, 10:25:40 PM
Villanova beat Penn in a Big 5 game
Xavier  beat  North Dakota State
Creighton beat Buffalo
Johnnies lost to Delaware State

St Johns has a terrible offensive structure sort of like Seton Hall but with worse players

Big East 48-16
48-16...not bad
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bilsu on November 29, 2016, 10:28:50 PM
10-8 will just about guarantee any BE team to be in the NCAA Tournament with this BE.
Running the table against the 5 worst teams and losing all 8 games to the four best teams gets you to 10-8. You better have a very good non conference record.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: fjm on November 29, 2016, 10:37:49 PM
Running the table against the 5 worst teams and losing all 8 games to the four best teams gets you to 10-8. You better have a very good non conference record.

9-9. You forgot the obligatory loss to DePaul some crazy friggen how.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on November 29, 2016, 10:39:05 PM
Running the table against the 5 worst teams and losing all 8 games to the four best teams gets you to 10-8. You better have a very good non conference record.

You would then have 4 wins over Georgetown and Seton Hall (assuming the top 4 are Butler, Xavier, Creighton, and Nova).  It's less about who you beat and more about who you play.  If you're 10-8 in the BE you're in.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 29, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
Running the table against the 5 worst teams and losing all 8 games to the four best teams gets you to 10-8. You better have a very good non conference record.

You continue to underestimate the Big East.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 30, 2016, 10:00:38 AM
You continue to underestimate the Big East.

And exactly the reason paying attention to the non con portion of the schedule is important.  When and if the BEast finishes #1 at Christmas, then by definition the 60th percentile team in the BEast is 'better' than the 60th percentile team in the Big10, Big12, Pac12, etc.  Sure there will be exceptions such as the discussion above with an inbalance of the Top 4 winning essentially every game they play but assuming the comference is normally distributed.....

One of the things that drives me crazy is when some ESPN talking head talks about some league getting 7,8,9 bids.  Who the eff cares?  If my league had 16 teams in it we'd be there too.  Somebody can do the math.  Getting 60% of your team to the dance has to be very near the historic top.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 30, 2016, 10:39:53 AM
And exactly the reason paying attention to the non con portion of the schedule is important.  When and if the BEast finishes #1 at Christmas, then by definition the 60th percentile team in the BEast is 'better' than the 60th percentile team in the Big10, Big12, Pac12, etc.  Sure there will be exceptions such as the discussion above with an inbalance of the Top 4 winning essentially every game they play but assuming the comference is normally distributed.....

One of the things that drives me crazy is when some ESPN talking head talks about some league getting 7,8,9 bids.  Who the eff cares?  If my league had 16 teams in it we'd be there too.  Somebody can do the math.  Getting 60% of your team to the dance has to be very near the historic top.
I put a big emphasis on the non conference season. Once the non conference is finished, it becomes very difficult to enhance your position. We have a commonality of interest with all the other teams in the league during non conference. Ideally we want everyone to go undefeated. The recent recruiting success of many Big East teams will start to manifest itself in the next couple years.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 30, 2016, 11:04:47 AM
Getting 60% of your team to the dance has to be very near the historic top.

I believe the best ever performance was the Big East in the 1991 NCAA Tournament. The league had 9 teams total and 7 made the NCAA Tournament:

2-Seed: Syracuse
3-Seed: Seton Hall
4-Seed: St. John's
6-Seed: Pittsburgh
8-Seed: Georgetown
9-Seed: Villanova
11-Seed: Connecticut

Providence missed out, but made the NIT and made it to the final eight of that tournament. I'm not sure how seeding was handled, but I believe they were probably pretty close to making the NCAAs. Boston College was the other team left out. That's 77.8% of the league making it in. The Big 12 has come close the past three years, sending 7/10 teams to the tourney each year. Had West Virginia not lost every meaningful non-con game in 2013-14 (5 losses to Va Tech, Wisconsin, Missouri, Gonzaga, and Purdue all by single digits) they probably would have had a good shot at making it 8/10.

EDIT: Interesting note about that 1991 Big East, other than 2-seed Syracuse getting upset by a 15, every other team was eliminated by a team that would go on to the Final Four. North Carolina took out Villanova, Kansas took out Pittsburgh, Duke took out UConn and St. John's, and UNLV took out Georgetown and Seton Hall.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 30, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Wednesday Schedule
Eastern Time
6:30 PM   New Hampshire at Providence   FOX Sports 2
6:30 PM   Coppin State at Georgetown      
8:30 PM   Western Carolina at Marquette   FOX Sports 2
8:30 PM   Drake at DePaul      
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2016, 11:50:55 AM
Wednesday Schedule
Eastern Time
6:30 PM   New Hampshire at Providence   FOX Sports 2
6:30 PM   Coppin State at Georgetown      
8:30 PM   Western Carolina at Marquette   FOX Sports 2
8:30 PM   Drake at DePaul

Should be four wins but New Hampshire did win @Temple this year...and Georgetown did lose to Arkansas State....and Depaul is Depaul...scratch that, we might have some games tonight!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 30, 2016, 03:06:28 PM
Wednesday Schedule
Eastern Time
6:30 PM   New Hampshire at Providence   FOX Sports 2
6:30 PM   Coppin State at Georgetown      
8:30 PM   Western Carolina at Marquette   FOX Sports 2
8:30 PM   Drake at DePaul


So Drake won't come to Madness but he'll go to DePaul?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Newsdreams on November 30, 2016, 06:17:59 PM

So Drake won't come to Madness but he'll go to DePaul?
HC to DePaul
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 30, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Providence and Georgetown won
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 30, 2016, 08:43:57 PM
Drake up 55-45 on DePaul with 14 to play.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on November 30, 2016, 09:25:43 PM
DePaul rallies to escape Drake, 77-75.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on November 30, 2016, 09:26:53 PM
DePaul rallies to escape Drake, 77-75.
Good comeback for them
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on November 30, 2016, 10:32:42 PM
52-16 now right?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on November 30, 2016, 10:47:48 PM
Good comeback for them

And good 'avoided loss' for the BEast.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 01, 2016, 03:05:06 AM
Depaul has a pretty big game against Northwestern coming up. I fully expect Depaul to get thrashed by 20 but if they somehow manage a tin that would do wonders for the Big East RPI. Not a must win because NU is very good this year but would be nice.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 01, 2016, 09:16:31 AM
DePaul and Johnnies race to the bottom. PC and GT a level above but nowhere near .500.

The MU battle will be with Hall for that fifth place position that would get them to the NCAAs. Considering how Hall manhandled us last season, garnering a split will be a monumental task.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: bilsu on December 01, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
DePaul and Johnnies race to the bottom. PC and GT a level above but nowhere near .500.

The MU battle will be with Hall for that fifth place position that would get them to the NCAAs. Considering how Hall manhandled us last season, garnering a split will be a monumental task.
Surprisingly DePaul is 4-1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GGGG on December 01, 2016, 09:29:36 AM
Surprisingly DePaul is 4-1


No quality wins though.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 01, 2016, 09:39:21 AM

No quality wins though.

And struggled with Robert Morris, Missouri State, and Drake at home. They're likely in for another long year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: BM1090 on December 01, 2016, 09:44:53 AM
And struggled with Robert Morris, Missouri State, and Drake at home. They're likely in for another long year.

Agree...but much better for our RPI that they didn't manage to lose those games.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 01, 2016, 10:27:13 AM
DePaul and Johnnies race to the bottom. PC and GT a level above but nowhere near .500.

The MU battle will be with Hall for that fifth place position that would get them to the NCAAs. Considering how Hall manhandled us last season, garnering a split will be a monumental task.

Agree with this but Big East is strong enough for six bids. Not ready to count Georgetown or Providence out either.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 01, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Agree with this but Big East is strong enough for six bids. Not ready to count Georgetown or Providence out either.

I doubt they'll be fighting with us for a bid so much as fighting to spoil a bid.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 01, 2016, 09:19:32 PM
Seton Hall beat Columbia
Big East now 53-16
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 02, 2016, 06:01:32 PM
St Johns at Tulane 8 pm eastern ESPNNews
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 03, 2016, 08:01:28 AM
Big day for big east....6 games that could go 6-0 or 2-4 or anywhere in between. 6-0 plus a MU win at Georgia would make a nice weekend.....or even just the MU win, right?!  ;D
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 03, 2016, 08:53:28 AM
Big day for big east....6 games that could go 6-0 or 2-4 or anywhere in between. 6-0 plus a MU win at Georgia would make a nice weekend.....or even just the MU win, right?!  ;D

Guessing they go anywhere from the 3-3 or 5-1 range. Baylor vs. X and Rhode Island vs Providence are the only two toss up games in my book. Depaul will lose by 15 to NU and the rest of the BE teams should win pretty handily.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 03, 2016, 09:23:29 AM
Courtesy of MU Panther from Dodds board
12:00pm- St. Joseph's @ 2 Villanova, CBSSN- Rich Waltz, Doug Gottlieb,*John Schriffen
Line: Villanova -19
2:30pm- 7 Xavier @ 9 Baylor, ESPN2 - Rich Hollenburg, Sean Farmham
Line: Baylor -5.5
3:00pm - Central Arkansas @ 18 Butler, FS2 - Vince Welsh, Joel Cornette
Line: Butler -29
3:30pm - 21 Rhode Island @ Providence, FSN - Alex Faust, Dicky Simpkins
Line: Rhode Island -2
6:00pm - DePaul @ Northwestern, BTN- Kevin Kulger, Shon Morris
Line: Northwestern -14
7:00pm - Akron @ 10 Creighton, FS2 - Steve Physioc, Nick Bahe
Line: Creighton -14
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: vogue65 on December 03, 2016, 09:57:50 AM
Courtesy of MU Panther from Dodds board
12:00pm- St. Joseph's @ 2 Villanova, CBSSN- Rich Waltz, Doug Gottlieb,*John Schriffen
Line: Villanova -19
2:30pm- 7 Xavier @ 9 Baylor, ESPN2 - Rich Hollenburg, Sean Farmham
Line: Baylor -5.5
3:00pm - Central Arkansas @ 18 Butler, FS2 - Vince Welsh, Joel Cornette
Line: Butler -29
3:30pm - 21 Rhode Island @ Providence, FSN - Alex Faust, Dicky Simpkins
Line: Rhode Island -2
6:00pm - DePaul @ Northwestern, BTN- Kevin Kulger, Shon Morris
Line: Northwestern -14
7:00pm - Akron @ 10 Creighton, FS2 - Steve Physioc, Nick Bahe
Line: Creighton -14

Glad I don't bet anymore, not since I  nearly got busted, by the good old MPD.  The daytime bartender went down, I dodged the bullet.  Baylor would have tempted me, oh well, I'm  retired.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 03, 2016, 05:10:34 PM
Providence on an 11-2 run and now lead #21 Rhode Island 51-49 with 7 to play. Friars are kind of frenetic, but when they're blocking shots and running they can be effective.

Xavier lost to Baylor after leading at the half. BU destroyed them in the second to win 76-61.

Villanova and Butler both took care of business.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 03, 2016, 05:39:16 PM
Big win for Providence. Nail biter to the end, but Friars win it 63-60. Kyron Cartwright looks like the next crazy stat PC guard, in the vein of Dunn, Cotton, and Council.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 03, 2016, 06:15:24 PM
Northwestern (without their starting center) already up by 12 over Depaul only 7 minutes into the game.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 03, 2016, 06:24:49 PM
DePaul is just horrendous, getting their ass handed to them right now. Midway through the first half Northwestern up 24, lol.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 03, 2016, 07:11:26 PM
DePaul is just horrendous, getting their ass handed to them right now. Midway through the first half Northwestern up 24, lol.

Collins getting it done.  Cubs and Cats both break their curses?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 03, 2016, 07:18:23 PM
Collins getting it done.  Cubs and Cats both break their curses?

Maybe, theyre a very good team but have a very unfavorable B1G schedule. They got stuck with Indiana and Purdue twice with their matchups against Michigan St and Wisconsin both away. Really could have used the wins against Notre Dame and Butler.

Should be a very interesting team when Pardon and Falzon get back. I predicted a couple year ago that when McIntosh and Law are Juniors they will have a good shot to be a NCAA tourney team, hope that turn out right.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 04, 2016, 09:06:53 PM
Big East Now 60-18

Third in Conference RPI  third in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
St. Johns vs Cal State Northridge

6:30 Pm Eastern  FS1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 03:28:36 PM
Our win yesterday put the Big East back into 2nd in conference RPI. Big East also second in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

The Big East  needs  MU, Providence, Seton Hall and  Georgetown to finish out this non conference  season strong.

 It looks like Providence has a shot at winning all of theirs. Georgetown still has Syracuse and  U Conn, although a win amongst those would help. Seton Hall has to play South Carolina, so a win against them would be helpful.

It would also be good for St. Johns and DePaul to Pad their  resumes too, so when they have an occasional upset conference win it becomes less of a bad loss for the rest of the conference. I thought the Johnnies would be improved but based on their performance to date they are still a year away.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: KampusFoods on December 05, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
Our win yesterday put the Big East back into 2nd in conference RPI. Big East also second in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

The Big East  needs  MU, Providence, Seton Hall and  Georgetown to finish out this non conference  season strong.

 It looks like Providence has a shot at winning all of theirs. Georgetown still has Syracuse and  U Conn, although a win amongst those would help. Seton Hall has to play South Carolina, so a win against them would be helpful.

It would also be good for St. Johns and DePaul to Pad their  resumes too, so when they have an occasional upset conference win it becomes less of a bad loss for the rest of the conference. I thought the Johnnies would be improved but based on their performance to date they are still a year away.

Just looked at St. John's season to date. Woof. How bad is that Delaware State loss? It's DSU's only D-1 win of the season, to go along with some big losses to bad competition. Bad bad bad.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 05, 2016, 04:14:56 PM
Just looked at St. John's season to date. Woof. How bad is that Delaware State loss? It's DSU's only D-1 win of the season, to go along with some big losses to bad competition. Bad bad bad.

Last I checked Delaware State was ranked 340 in KenPom. I don't have the data but I'd be willing to bet that they were the lowest ranked team (per KenPom) to ever beat a Big East squad.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 05, 2016, 05:30:41 PM
That Delaware State loss was a doozy. Mullin is getting talent, but I'm not convinced at all by his coaching. I know people complain about Wojo, but as far as a game coach he's light years ahead of Mullin right now. I'd love it if them and DePaul combined for 2 Big East wins (each other). If everyone else had 4 wins to start with, that improves the odds of getting 6-8 teams in the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 05, 2016, 05:41:18 PM
And as crazy as 8 might seem, I could see...

1) Villanova 27-4 (14-4)
2) Creighton 25-6 (12-6)
3) Butler 23-7 (11-7)
4) Marquette 21-9 (11-7)
5) Xavier 22-9 (10-8)
6) Seton Hall 20-10 (10-8)
7) Georgetown 19-12 (10-8)
8) Providence 21-10 (10-8)
9) DePaul 10-20 (1-17)
10) St. John's 8-23 (1-17)

If you have two terrible teams and a glut of teams in the middle, it's not impossible. In this scenario, Georgetown might need help, and it would take a strong finish to non-con play, but 8 teams wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. The Big 12 came very close in 2014 (7 in, WVU probably would have been had they won 2 of the 5 non-con games they lost by single digits).
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 05:51:05 PM
And as crazy as 8 might seem, I could see...

1) Villanova 27-4 (14-4)
2) Creighton 25-6 (12-6)
3) Butler 23-7 (11-7)
4) Marquette 21-9 (11-7)
5) Xavier 22-9 (10-8)
6) Seton Hall 20-10 (10-8)
7) Georgetown 19-12 (10-8)
8) Providence 21-10 (10-8)
9) DePaul 10-20 (1-17)
10) St. John's 8-23 (1-17)

If you have two terrible teams and a glut of teams in the middle, it's not impossible. In this scenario, Georgetown might need help, and it would take a strong finish to non-con play, but 8 teams wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. The Big 12 came very close in 2014 (7 in, WVU probably would have been had they won 2 of the 5 non-con games they lost by single digits).
The two terrible teams scenario is a good one for everyone (except of course the two )
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: naginiF on December 05, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
Our win yesterday put the Big East back into 2nd in conference RPI. Big East also second in strength of schedule

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html

The Big East  needs  MU, Providence, Seton Hall and  Georgetown to finish out this non conference  season strong.

 It looks like Providence has a shot at winning all of theirs. Georgetown still has Syracuse and  U Conn, although a win amongst those would help. Seton Hall has to play South Carolina, so a win against them would be helpful.

It would also be good for St. Johns and DePaul to Pad their  resumes too, so when they have an occasional upset conference win it becomes less of a bad loss for the rest of the conference. I thought the Johnnies would be improved but based on their performance to date they are still a year away.
This is not a bag on our schedule at all because having a true road game at a "power 5" school is a great move (#exceptRutgers), but did i hear correctly during the Georgia game that so far, other than Kentucky, the SEC only has 2 'quality' wins this year and both are from South Carolina?

I'm too lazy to do the research but assuming true......THAT is a bad conference - both in scheduling and in quality.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 05, 2016, 08:34:40 PM
Johnnies hang on to beat Cal State Northridge 76-70. Freshman guard Ponds with 25
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on December 05, 2016, 10:20:55 PM
There will not be 8 teams with 10+ BE wins and there will not be 8 (or 7) BE teams in the NCAA Tournament.

Let's hope for an 18-0 MU team.  Everything else for the BE is just gravy.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MuMark on December 05, 2016, 10:31:35 PM
No worries.......we're a 7 seed!

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/bracketology/detail/
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 06, 2016, 10:47:33 AM
This is not a bag on our schedule at all because having a true road game at a "power 5" school is a great move (#exceptRutgers), but did i hear correctly during the Georgia game that so far, other than Kentucky, the SEC only has 2 'quality' wins this year and both are from South Carolina?

I'm too lazy to do the research but assuming true......THAT is a bad conference - both in scheduling and in quality.

Florida beat St. Bonaventure's, Seton Hall, and Miami (FL). St. B's is arguable but the other two are solid.

Arkansas beat UT-Arlington, usually not a good win but this year they will be a top 75 team.

Ole Miss beat UMass, St. Joe's, and Memphis. Depends on your definition of good win.

LSU beat Houston. Maybe a good win?

TAMU beat Buzz' Hokies. That's one good one.

Georgia beat George Washington...meh

Mizzou almost beat Xavier. Does that count?

Tennessee beat Georgia Tech. Power Six conference but not great.

So the statement wasn't correct, but the SEC outside of Kentucky and Florida is pretty abysmal.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 06, 2016, 10:50:29 AM
That Delaware State loss was a doozy. Mullin is getting talent, but I'm not convinced at all by his coaching. I know people complain about Wojo, but as far as a game coach he's light years ahead of Mullin right now. I'd love it if them and DePaul combined for 2 Big East wins (each other). If everyone else had 4 wins to start with, that improves the odds of getting 6-8 teams in the NCAAs.

Mullin isn't coaching the team. I wrote about this repeatedly when people in this community praised his hire shortly after it occurred and revisited the topic shortly after last season began. He'll be gone by March 2018.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: naginiF on December 06, 2016, 01:23:37 PM
Florida beat St. Bonaventure's, Seton Hall, and Miami (FL). St. B's is arguable but the other two are solid.

Arkansas beat UT-Arlington, usually not a good win but this year they will be a top 75 team.

Ole Miss beat UMass, St. Joe's, and Memphis. Depends on your definition of good win.

LSU beat Houston. Maybe a good win?

TAMU beat Buzz' Hokies. That's one good one.

Georgia beat George Washington...meh

Mizzou almost beat Xavier. Does that count?

Tennessee beat Georgia Tech. Power Six conference but not great.

So the statement wasn't correct, but the SEC outside of Kentucky and Florida is pretty abysmal.
Thanks - i appreciate the detail (but apparently not enough to look it up myself)
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 06, 2016, 02:11:48 PM
Eastern Time

7:00 PM   #1 Villanova vs La Salle   ESPN2  Big 5 game

7:00 PM   Brown at Providence   FOX Sports 2

7:30 PM   Fresno State at Marquette   CBS Sports Network

9:00 PM   Lamar at DePaul      
9:30 PM   Hawai'i vs Seton Hall   FOX Sports 1
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 06, 2016, 10:06:07 PM
Villanova beat LaSalle in a Big 5 game
DePaul beat Lamar
Providence beat Brown
Seton Hall ahead of Hawaii in a tight road game
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 07, 2016, 07:47:09 PM
Butler needs to get its but in gear versus Indiana State down 5 with 3 minutes remaining.

Seton Hall in tight game with Cuonzo and Cal up 47-45 with 8 minutes
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MU82 on December 07, 2016, 08:00:09 PM

Seton Hall in tight game with Cuonzo and Cal up 47-45 with 8 minutes

Another guy we should have hired instead of Wojo. The line is long. I believe Wainwright, Ners and anybody not named Dukiet also are ranked higher than our de-motivating loser.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 07, 2016, 09:00:50 PM
Butler = Choke Job
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 07, 2016, 09:13:21 PM
Another guy we should have hired instead of Wojo. The line is long. I believe Wainwright, Ners and anybody not named Dukiet also are ranked higher than our de-motivating loser.
Seton Hall beat Cal and Cuonzo. Butler lost on the road to Indiana State.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: lurch91 on December 07, 2016, 09:23:21 PM
Seton Hall beat Cal and Cuonzo. Butler lost on the road to Indiana State.

Is Butlerscoop.com melting down about now?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 07, 2016, 10:17:54 PM
Creighton beat Nebraska on the road
Xavier lost to Colorado 68-66 on road
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Johnny B on December 07, 2016, 10:41:30 PM
butler why...
and nice one X.
gonna have 2 ranked teams come conference time. not gonna be a ton of chances to build a reusme
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 08, 2016, 06:07:03 AM
butler why...
and nice one X.
gonna have 2 ranked teams come conference time. not gonna be a ton of chances to build a reusme

Yeah there will be. The Selection Committee won't be looking at rankings come March. This is still one of the at worst top three leagues in the country.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TheGym on December 08, 2016, 09:32:54 AM
This is not a bag on our schedule at all because having a true road game at a "power 5" school is a great move (#exceptRutgers), but did i hear correctly during the Georgia game that so far, other than Kentucky, the SEC only has 2 'quality' wins this year and both are from South Carolina?

I'm too lazy to do the research but assuming true......THAT is a bad conference - both in scheduling and in quality.

I believe what they said on the broadcast was that except for Kentucky the SEC has two wins over top 25 teams and they were both SC.  Not sure if accurate, but that is what I remember hearing.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 08, 2016, 09:54:46 AM
Fordham at St Johns tonight 6:30 eastern FS1. Good inter borough rivalry game.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: auburnmarquette on December 08, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Mullin isn't coaching the team. I wrote about this repeatedly when people in this community praised his hire shortly after it occurred and revisited the topic shortly after last season began. He'll be gone by March 2018.

Agreed, is Mullin OK? The one sideline TV shot of all the players talking to each other throughout the time out while Mullin starred at his stat sheet was scary. The TV commentator tried to write it off as a good strategy to sometimes let players talk it out during a game.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 08, 2016, 12:24:10 PM
Agreed, is Mullin OK? The one sideline TV shot of all the players talking to each other throughout the time out while Mullin starred at his stat sheet was scary. The TV commentator tried to write it off as a good strategy to sometimes let players talk it out during a game.
Looks like Marcus LoVett is in a walking boot.

http://nypost.com/2016/12/05/shamorie-ponds-eruption-saves-st-johns-from-further-disgrace/

Local Media is starting to turn on Mullin a bit this year. Big East needs St. Johns to be a competitive team.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 08, 2016, 01:19:06 PM
Local Media is starting to turn on Mullin a bit this year. Big East needs St. Johns to be a competitive team.

Seriously...why? The two biggest market teams right now, DePaul and St. John's, are also the two worst teams. Has that prevented the league from getting teams ranked? No, we've had four different teams ranked this year. Has that prevented the league from getting teams into the tournament? No, we've averaged five NCAA teams per season. Has that prevented the league from television contracts, a marquee tournament venue, top-level recruiting, quality non-conference scheduling, or elite RPI/SOS numbers? No, no, no, no, and no.

The Big East needs teams to be competitive and playing elite basketball. It has that. Maybe Omaha and Indianapolis aren't Chicago and New York, but as long as the teams are competitive with the top leagues and winning at a high level, we'll be fine. The league needs good teams and needs someone to be at the bottom. It has that, which is why it's flourishing.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GGGG on December 08, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Seriously...why? The two biggest market teams right now, DePaul and St. John's, are also the two worst teams. Has that prevented the league from getting teams ranked? No, we've had four different teams ranked this year. Has that prevented the league from getting teams into the tournament? No, we've averaged five NCAA teams per season. Has that prevented the league from television contracts, a marquee tournament venue, top-level recruiting, quality non-conference scheduling, or elite RPI/SOS numbers? No, no, no, no, and no.

The Big East needs teams to be competitive and playing elite basketball. It has that. Maybe Omaha and Indianapolis aren't Chicago and New York, but as long as the teams are competitive with the top leagues and winning at a high level, we'll be fine. The league needs good teams and needs someone to be at the bottom. It has that, which is why it's flourishing.


Exactly.

Anyway, Mullin doesn't seem terribly interested IMO. I believe he had to be offered the job more than once and didn't really want to leave the west coast. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Loose Cannon on December 08, 2016, 02:32:44 PM

Exactly.

Anyway, Mullin doesn't seem terribly interested IMO. I believe he had to be offered the job more than once and didn't really want to leave the west coast.

Man, that the message I got from his body language during last year's TV huddle time outs, he seemed just not fully involved.

Maybe it was because of the contrast of Wojo's huddles as it was happening in the same game.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on December 08, 2016, 02:38:34 PM
Big East needs St. Johns to be a competitive team.

Boy, is the Big East unnatural carnal knowledgeed.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 08, 2016, 02:48:32 PM
Seriously...why? The two biggest market teams right now, DePaul and St. John's, are also the two worst teams. Has that prevented the league from getting teams ranked? No, we've had four different teams ranked this year. Has that prevented the league from getting teams into the tournament? No, we've averaged five NCAA teams per season. Has that prevented the league from television contracts, a marquee tournament venue, top-level recruiting, quality non-conference scheduling, or elite RPI/SOS numbers? No, no, no, no, and no.

The Big East needs teams to be competitive and playing elite basketball. It has that. Maybe Omaha and Indianapolis aren't Chicago and New York, but as long as the teams are competitive with the top leagues and winning at a high level, we'll be fine. The league needs good teams and needs someone to be at the bottom. It has that, which is why it's flourishing.
Instead of saying needs i should have said Big East would benefit etc. I am very much in agreement with what you have laid out above.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 08, 2016, 03:51:57 PM
I'll be honest, I think that 8 good teams and 2 stinkers is ideal. I really don't care which are which, as long as Marquette isn't one of the latter two.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2016, 04:29:34 PM
I'll be honest, I think that 8 good teams and 2 stinkers is ideal. I really don't care which are which, as long as Marquette isn't one of the latter two.

Yep
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GB Warrior on December 08, 2016, 04:50:29 PM
Disappointing for X, but not a "bad loss" Colorado was already a borderline tourney team, cross country travel for X, and still missing one of their glue guys in Myles Davis (there's a stalker joke to be made here). Still, they should have the highest aspirations in the conference short of Nova.

Butler...not not good. Caught whatever Indiana had from their in-state road loss to scrubs.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 08, 2016, 05:22:32 PM
Man, that the message I got from his body language during last year's TV huddle time outs, he seemed just not fully involved.

Maybe it was because of the contrast of Wojo's huddles as it was happening in the same game.

It's because he's not the coach who calls the plays.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Loose Cannon on December 08, 2016, 05:51:40 PM
It's because he's not the coach who calls the plays.

Well, that nice, one less thing that many other coaches do.  Anything else?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GGGG on December 08, 2016, 09:29:40 PM
Somewhere share this tweet with UDPride:

Title ‏@Title_BU  38m38 minutes ago
With St John's win over Fordham, tonight, the Big East moves to 25-4 vs the A-10 since 2014's conference realignments.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 08, 2016, 09:52:59 PM
Somewhere share this tweet with UDPride:

Title ‏@Title_BU  38m38 minutes ago
With St John's win over Fordham, tonight, the Big East moves to 25-4 vs the A-10 since 2014's conference realignments.

Ha ha.  Makes his post seem even more comical.

Heard radio guy the other day say that Big East is 12-10 versus the ACC last season and current season (includes post season).  Not bad given that they took some of the top teams.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: nyg on December 10, 2016, 09:21:18 AM
St. John's starting center, Sima, just left the team and will transfer. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 10:34:33 AM
Courtesy of MUPanther from Dodds board

Saturday 12/10:
10:30AM - DePaul vs. Temple, ESPNU - Allen Bestwick, Tim Welsh
HoopHall Miami Invitational
Line: Temple -7
11:00AM - 1 Villanova vs. 23 Notre Dame (Newark, NJ), CBS - Carter Blackburn, Bill Raftery, Jon Rothstein
Line: Villanova -6.5
11:00AM - Massachusetts @ Providence, FS1 --Alex Faust, Tarik Turner
Line: Providence -8.5
1:00PM - 17 Wisconsin @ Marquette, FS1 - Justin Kutcher, Stephen Bardo
Line: Wisconsin -4
1:00PM - Georgetown vs. La Salle, ESPN2 - Allen Bestwick, Tim Welsh
HoopHall Miami Invitational
Line: Georgetown -4
3:30PM - 22 Cincinnati @ 16 Butler, FS1 Tim Brando, Nich Bahe
Line: Butler -3
4:30PM Utah @ 13 Xavier on FOX, Joe Davis, Jim Jackson
Line: Xavier -11.5
Sunday 12/11:
11:00 - Long Island vs. St. John's (Barclays), FS1
ECAC Winter Festival
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 10, 2016, 10:41:56 AM
Two big games in the Legs family - Legs Jr. at ND and Ms. Legs at Nova; Mrs. Legs brother a Vadger grad.  Let's set the tone for the holidays with a couple of BE wins.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: real chili 83 on December 10, 2016, 10:51:29 AM
ND sucks.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 10, 2016, 11:26:22 AM
That took 7 minutes longer than I expected.   8-)
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 11:55:08 AM
Villanova losing at half to ND 41-36. Nova defense not intense enough today.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 10, 2016, 12:14:00 PM
Just turned the TV on and that appears to be a new, extra ugly shade of green on ND uniforms. Or my TV needs repair. Or I need to see an ophthalmologist.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 10, 2016, 12:15:50 PM
Ugly, but not as bad as the mustard green ones.

I hate Vastoria so much.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 12:24:09 PM
ND working hard and wants this game much more than Villanova.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 12:40:50 PM
Nova scratched their way back into the lead 57-56 with 7:51 left. Josh Hart on fire with 31 points so far.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: forgetful on December 10, 2016, 12:45:10 PM
Nova scratched their way back into the lead 57-56 with 7:51 left. Josh Hart on fire with 31 points so far.

For Nova, it seems like only one person has their head and Hart in this game.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 01:00:27 PM
Nova up by 6 with 27 second left
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 01:03:34 PM
Nova won 74-66 Hart with 37 and 11
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 01:08:35 PM
Providence Beat U Mass
Temple beat Depaul 74-65
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 04:35:06 PM
Butler and Cincinnati tied at half
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
Butler beat Cincinnati. Good Game for Butler .
Xavier up 40-32 over Utah 19 minutes second half
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Herman Cain on December 10, 2016, 06:43:23 PM
Xavier Beat Utah
Georgetown beat LaSalle
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 12, 2016, 10:39:57 PM
South Carolina undefeated no more. Seton Hall took them down at the Garden. Good game for the Hall, rallying from an 7-point halftime deficit. Angel Delgado is still a load. Gamecocks had a three-quarter court shot to tie at the buzzer, but it bounced in and out.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: nyg on December 13, 2016, 07:53:00 AM
Sanago and Delgado with 12 rebounds apiece, they are very, very strong bodies.

On another note, Issac Copeland, Georgetown forward just left and is transferring.  Former five star......
Whoops, didn't see other thread on him.. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on December 15, 2016, 10:53:22 AM
Not BEast but Michigan played and beat Central Arkansas where Markus Howard's brother Jordan plays. He had 14 points
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 15, 2016, 11:33:17 AM
DePaul losing to UIC finally bursts my bubble of a BE 80% winning pct.  OOC
I think BE teams have to win every game left to go over 80% non-conference.

it doesn't matter but was a nice thought. I think the ACC, even with as many teams as they have will go over 80%.

I know many here think the BE is the best...we may prove it in the tourney...but I think the ACC is better top-2-bottom as they say.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUFlutieEffect on December 17, 2016, 10:25:01 AM
Big opportunities for the conference today (Saturday, December 17th):

Georgetown @ Syracuse
Butler @ Indiana
Wake Forest @ Xavier
Chicago State @ DePaul
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 17, 2016, 10:48:10 AM
Big opportunities for the conference today (Saturday, December 17th):

Georgetown @ Syracuse
Butler @ Indiana
Wake Forest @ Xavier
Chicago State @ DePaul

You kid but Chicago State may beat them. They gave Northwestern a run for their money the other day.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 17, 2016, 11:42:21 AM
You kid but Chicago State may beat them. They gave Northwestern a run for their money the other day.

And barely lost at SLU. Not sure if DePaul is better than the Bills this year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUFlutieEffect on December 17, 2016, 12:57:08 PM
You kid but Chicago State may beat them. They gave Northwestern a run for their money the other day.

Wouldn't be at all shocked if they lost, but it's too sad a state of affairs to take seriously.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 17, 2016, 01:07:25 PM
Clutch win for GTown at Syracuse
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 17, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
GT just won over SYR....kept their composure....wont be easy next week.

Good to see BE win though.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GGGG on December 17, 2016, 01:20:17 PM
Syracuse isn't very good.

Wins:  Colgate, Holy Cross, Monmouth, South Carolina State, North Florida, Boston U.

Crushed by South Carolina and UW.  Close losses to UConn and Georgetown.

Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MuMark on December 17, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
DePaul 24 Chicago State 4
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Eldon on December 17, 2016, 01:34:20 PM
DePaul 24 Chicago State 4

However low scoring, a win is a win. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 17, 2016, 01:36:04 PM
Big game today and plan to watch is Butler/Indiana...Quality Indiana matchup. Also Xavier v Wake Forest. If we can with these two...will be a nice day for the BE.
Want to win these ACC B10 matchups for conference creds.  ACC tough this year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 17, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
However low scoring, a win is a win.

Classic
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 17, 2016, 02:30:46 PM
Syracuse isn't very good.

Wins:  Colgate, Holy Cross, Monmouth, South Carolina State, North Florida, Boston U.

Crushed by South Carolina and UW.  Close losses to UConn and Georgetown.

Road wins over power 5 teams are road wins, especially in front of 20K plus.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on December 17, 2016, 02:36:18 PM
A thought GTown played a solid game today.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Newsdreams on December 17, 2016, 02:58:45 PM
Not our conference, but Purdue beats ND. ND $$$$ucks!! Yo, Chili!!
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 17, 2016, 06:15:20 PM
Butler +1
Big day for big east...
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: tower912 on December 17, 2016, 06:35:50 PM
Big East RPI helped, added bonus of IU going down.    Win win. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Zephyr820 on December 17, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
Norlander said Butler is a 2 seed now
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 17, 2016, 08:34:32 PM
Creighton struggling with 2-9 Oral Roberts, trailing 65-60 at home with 5 to play.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on December 17, 2016, 08:41:52 PM
There's Villanova and then there's about 8 BE teams that can all beat up on each other. Some nights Xavier looks solid and some they look horrible. Some nights Creighton looks like a top 5 teams and others like an NIT team. Some nights Seton Hall looks like a team building on an NCAA Tournament team and some nights they look like a standard Willard team. Etc.

Every night is going to be a battle.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 17, 2016, 09:18:36 PM
Big East sweep today. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: #UnleashSean on December 17, 2016, 09:28:20 PM
There's Villanova and then there's about 5 BE teams that can all beat up on each other and then theres the basement.



Fixed.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: wadesworld on December 17, 2016, 09:30:24 PM
Fixed.

Probably true.  But I think teams like Marquette, Georgetown, Seton Hall, and maybe even Providence all have the ability to beat teams like Creighton, Butler, and Xavier if they catch them on the right night (aka are playing well and those teams are playing poorly).  St. John's and DePaul not so much.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on December 17, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
Creighton struggling with 2-9 Oral Roberts, trailing 65-60 at home with 5 to play.
Creighton wom 66-65
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 18, 2016, 07:48:36 AM
.....if they catch them on the right night....

Totally agree with this...even if our record isn't stellar going into Feb. still in the hunt. Reason to get down to the BC on those cold nights. Potentially a good year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Billy Hoyle on December 18, 2016, 12:01:58 PM
On the short end of a 35-5 run in the last 9 minutes of the first half and no timeouts used. I think it's safe to say the Mullin experiment has not worked out for St. John's.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Golden Avalanche on December 18, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
On the short end of a 35-5 run in the last 9 minutes of the first half and no timeouts used. I think it's safe to say the Mullin experiment has not worked out for St. John's.

Mullin doesn't coach the team.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 18, 2016, 07:23:50 PM
On the short end of a 35-5 run in the last 9 minutes of the first half and no timeouts used. I think it's safe to say the Mullin experiment has not worked out for St. John's.

I don't think you can say that its failed yet. Rebuilds take time. But I will agree that the signs don't look good.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 19, 2016, 02:41:32 PM
9 days to Real BE play and two 300+ opponents till then...what do we do with the time?

Why of course we play meaningless mental statistical games...mine is "can the Big East finish with 80%+ NONCONF winning pct."

* Currently  84-25 (qualifying games)
* 13 games left before BE play (as of the beginning of today 12/19)
* 4 games during BE play.

126 total nonconf games. 80% = 100.8 wins => 101 wins.

so we have to win every one left. Can STJ bean Syracuse? All the rest we should be competitive. 

We shall see...
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUBigDance on December 19, 2016, 02:44:50 PM
Just to note: some nice Non-Conference games during Big East play:

1/14 - Georgetown/UConn
1/26 - Xavier/Cincinnati
1/29 - Villanova/Virginia - Battle for the letter "V"

and of course that classic:
1/14 Creighton/Truman State
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 21, 2016, 06:35:00 AM
Big East had a decent night last night...

Creighton won at Zona State by 11 (given their average defense and great offense,  our games with them could see winner scoring 100+)

Xavier dispatched Eastern Wash by 30
Providence took care of Maine (by 20)

Sagarin has Big East ranked third and RPI has us at first
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 21, 2016, 07:25:30 PM
Still 16 to play, but the Johnnies are up 13 at Syracuse in the second half.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on December 22, 2016, 09:24:51 PM
DePaul absolutely sucks. Down 10 to Wyoming with 9 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 22, 2016, 09:36:05 PM
DePaul absolutely sucks. Down 10 to Wyoming with 9 minutes to go.

Grandstaff will make a marked difference next year.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 22, 2016, 09:44:19 PM
Grandstaff will make a marked difference next year.

Are you sure that he will be able to rise to the occasion?
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: jsglow on December 22, 2016, 09:48:52 PM
72-58. God awful.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Oldgym on December 22, 2016, 09:52:35 PM
Are you sure that he will be able to rise to the occasion?

Here we go  8-)
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 22, 2016, 09:54:17 PM
Are you sure that he will be able to rise to the occasion?

Hearing he is at least 12 clicks above the DePaul high water mark. 
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 23, 2016, 12:15:11 AM
To be fair, I believe DePaul opened at +4.5. Spread came down to +2.5, so bettors were on the Big East team, but Wyoming was always the favorite.

EDIT: Eli Cain 2/16 from the field with 4 turnovers. He should fit right in as that next DePaul go-to guy.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on December 23, 2016, 07:42:13 PM
Watching SH vs Rutgers, officiating is ridiculous. Lots of flopping by SH players, Rutgers is a good team, led most of game but officiating turned the table. SMH
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: brewcity77 on December 24, 2016, 12:15:23 AM
Bad night for the league, going 1-2 against marginal competition.
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: Jay Bee on December 25, 2016, 11:18:11 AM
Watching SH vs Rutgers, officiating is ridiculous. Lots of flopping by SH players, Rutgers is a good team, led most of game but officiating turned the table. SMH

Let's not get carried away...
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 25, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
Watching SH vs Rutgers, officiating is ridiculous. Lots of flopping by SH players, Rutgers is a good team, led most of game but officiating turned the table. SMH

I watched a lot of that game and SHU played awful.

Hopefully that's the SHU that shows up vs us
Title: Re: Big East Non Conference Results
Post by: MU82 on December 27, 2016, 11:25:57 AM
I watched a lot of that game and SHU played awful.

Hopefully that's the SHU that shows up vs us

Twice.