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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: NCMUFan on October 22, 2016, 04:27:22 PM
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I have this feeling of an inaugural big east/3 amigo type of season with Luke playing the role of Novak.
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That is the Mexican pizza talking. Lie down and take a couple of antacids.
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Ok, sorry, I am looking forward to a 7th place Big East finish this year.
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Ok, sorry, I am looking forward to a 7th place Big East finish this year.
Wow! Optimistic you are. Our "shooters" could not even score in practice.
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You're right, NCMU. There is a lot to be optimistic about. Marquette is returning 4 starters from a 20 win team and has brought in 4 guys who can shoot the three. We won't be the youngest team around, the freshmen will be sophomores, we have an abundance of talented guards.
I can't get past the notion that MU is going to get blown up on the boards and therefore is going to be unable to make the crucial stop. If MU DOES rebound well, this is a tourney team and possibly a second weekend team. But i keep picturing JjJ attempting to rebound against a 6'8, 230 lb PF.
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I have this feeling of an inaugural big east/3 amigo type of season with Luke playing the role of Novak.
Oh, man, if Fischer shoots 121/259 from three this season, it's going to be the weirdest season ever
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I can't get past the notion that MU is going to get blown up on the boards and therefore is going to be unable to make the crucial stop. If MU DOES rebound well, this is a tourney team and possibly a second weekend team. But i keep picturing JjJ attempting to rebound against a 6'8, 230 lb PF.
Two thoughts:
1) Rebounding is about positioning and about blocking out. Height helps, yes, but strength and positioning is key.
2) If we have not hit the weight room, it will be a long season. If we have, second week here we come!
Look, we will be more challenged than last year on the boards, but if our guys are committed to doing it right and Wojo and his team have worked with them in the off-season, we'll be fine.
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19 days out. I'm going to be excited and an irrational optimist. We'll be fine.
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Wow! Optimistic you are. Our "shooters" could not even score in practice.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2016/10/13/marquette-practice-notes-shooters-all-around/92028080/
Not sure where you are getting the notion that our shooters can't score in practice...
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http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2016/10/13/marquette-practice-notes-shooters-all-around/92028080/
Not sure where you are getting the notion that our shooters can't score in practice...
From one practice where fans could attend, obviously.
Isn't the bigger take away from that one poor performance that Marquette's defense prevents a lot of made three pointers?
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Excitement vs. realism. Generally, we are predicted to finish 7th. I do think we finish better than that. I think 5th or 6th is realistic. What makes me excited about this team is I think we have a real chance to not go 0-6 against the top 6 teams. Every game we will have a chance to win, if we are shooting very well. Now I am not crazy enough to think we are going 6-0 against Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall, but I see 2-4 as a reasonable possibility. We may lose, but at least at the start of the game, I will feel like we have a reasonable chance to win.
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From one practice where fans could attend, obviously.
Isn't the bigger take away from that one poor performance that Marquette's defense prevents a lot of made three pointers?
What? That would make too much sense dude...
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Now I am not crazy enough to think we are going 6-0 against Villanova, Xavier and Seton Hall, but I see 2-4 as a reasonable possibility.
If we go 2-4 against Nova, Xavier and Seton Hall I'd be thrilled (assuming we take care of business elsewhere). Even 1 win would be an improvement over last season.
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From one practice where fans could attend, obviously.
Isn't the bigger take away from that one poor performance that Marquette's defense prevents a lot of made three pointers?
Actually MU did not shoot poor from three in the 5 on 5 scrimage. They took less three point shots than I was expecting. I lost count at 5 out 9. They were 3-5 with Hauser hitting 3 and two others missing. After that Carter hit three threes and Wilson hit three threes, so there were three players that hit three threes. I believe Howard, Rowsey, Cohen JJJ and Reinhardt missed all of their threes, but I could be wrong. That is the way I see this team. Some games players A, B & C will be on and the next game players D, E, F will be on or some mixture of our outside shooters. One practice does not mean a lot, but it is the first time I watched this team play. Prior to that I was expecting Rowsey to be better than Howard and in this practice Howard was clearly better than Rowsey. Howard had some nice drives, while Rowsey faked on a three and got called for traveling and on another drive his shot was blocked. I also heard Wojo praise Howard during the scrimage. I am now willing to concede to the other posters here that said Howard is going to be a big difference maker this year. He definitely does not play like a 17 year old. The other interesting thing was Wojo said he was going to experiment with playing Fischer and Heldt together.
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If we go 2-4 against Nova, Xavier and Seton Hall I'd be thrilled (assuming we take care of business elsewhere). Even 1 win would be an improvement over last season.
But Seton hall is back to the basement.
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But Seton hall is back to the basement.
Seton Hall is predicted to be a boderline NCAA tournament team
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But Seton hall is back to the basement.
Well, Pomeroy has them at 38, but personally I don't see them dropping much. They lost Whitehead, but getting more shots for Carrington and Rodriguez should actually be an improvement. Can they overcome Whitehead's distribution ability is the question. They have two newcomers to audition for the point role.
Whitehead's loss could prove to be addition through subtraction, getting shots into the hands of more efficient players, though he was fantastic once Big East play started, and his efficiency was largely dragged down by sub-par play in the non-con. I don't think his loss will hurt as much as many experts seem to think.
There's a gap after Villanova, but I'm not sure it's as big as some seem to think, and I think Xavier, Seton Hall, and Creighton could all be right there if the Wildcats slip after losing Ochefu and Arcidiacono (especially without Spellman).
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Not overly hyped and hope that changes. Ton of traveling and still not hyped for Packer season and hope when back in two weeks I get my optimism back.
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Not overly hyped and hope that changes. Ton of traveling and still not hyped for Packer season and hope when back in two weeks I get my optimism back.
Well it looks like the Mods are excited. They have us in first place in the standings.
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I am guardedly optimistic for this season. I am hoping for a ticket to the Dance but won't be shocked if we fall short.
People need to understand that Marquette has never had a Death Valley stretch of four years. Never.
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Keefe
Not sold on Wojo as a coach here. Expected a great deal more last year and year was another disappointment. This is big year for the program. Who knows, maybe they want to be SLU after all.
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Keefe
Not sold on Wojo as a coach here. Expected a great deal more last year and year was another disappointment. This is big year for the program. Who knows, maybe they want to be SLU after all.
I'd argue that's more of an indictment of your expectations then anything else. You expected more than 20-13 and a jump from 4 to 8 conference wins a year after he was left with 8 players, 2 of which were senior starters?
If we don't improve on last year then I'll be concerned, but last year we had a team with 3 freshman starters and showed great improvement. I expect more improvement this year.
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I'd argue that's more of an indictment of your expectations then anything else. You expected more than 20-13 and a jump from 4 to 8 conference wins a year after he was left with 8 players, 2 of which were senior starters?
Not to speak for Goose, but that is a strong word there -- maybe some just have the opinion that the rebuild didnt need to be as deep, it could have happened quicker with a different recruiting strategy or more could have been done with the talent ...Nothing wrong with that. No indictment just a healthy dose of skepticism.
I agree with you that that its results time from here forward and the academic discussions about the cupboard or judging just how deep of a hole we started in is done.....time to once again feel like we have a chance at the tourney every year.
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Keefe
Not sold on Wojo as a coach here. Expected a great deal more last year and year was another disappointment. This is big year for the program. Who knows, maybe they want to be SLU after all.
It is hard to be a successful coach with the teams he had the first two years. Last year we were usually starting three freshmen. I never thought that a Wojo team did not show up to play in a game. We simply have had less talent and/or experience than most Big East teams. I am not sure if this team does not get a bid it will do with actual coaching. The players need to hit threes and get a reasonable number of rebounds. A coach can teach the team to play defense and take good shots, but that does not matter if the players do not shoot well. However, if he loses this team like Buzz lost his last team, then there is a coaching problem.
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IMO at this point we are just at the beginning of the rebuilding process and think vast improvement is needed sooner than later. I honestly am not sure Wojo can coach or not. One thing I do know is that it took Wojo an awfully long time to a HC gig and that worried me at the time.
As far my expectations for the program, I want to see us win and win big. I can handle a rebuild if the end game is better than the pre-rebuild. Buzz had two S16 and E8 and some big wins. Buzz one upped TC and Wojo has yet to get us out of the batters box.
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Keefe
Not sold on Wojo as a coach here. Expected a great deal more last year and year was another disappointment. This is big year for the program. Who knows, maybe they want to be SLU after all.
Silly.
We won 20, won a non-con tournament against a team with one of the best players in the nation, beat several ranked teams, doubled our conference win total. All with 3 freshman starters.
You're allowed to think what you want, obviously, but I enjoyed most of last season and thought it was a major step in the right direction.
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IMO at this point we are just at the beginning of the rebuilding process and think vast improvement is needed sooner than later. I honestly am not sure Wojo can coach or not. One thing I do know is that it took Wojo an awfully long time to a HC gig and that worried me at the time.
As far my expectations for the program, I want to see us win and win big. I can handle a rebuild if the end game is better than the pre-rebuild. Buzz had two S16 and E8 and some big wins. Buzz one upped TC and Wojo has yet to get us out of the batters box.
It wasn't for a lack of opportunity.
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As far my expectations for the program, I want to see us win and win big. I can handle a rebuild if the end game is better than the pre-rebuild. Buzz had two S16 and E8 and some big wins. Buzz one upped TC and Wojo has yet to get us out of the batters box.
Agree 100%. It was clear to me that Buzz had "it" very early (late January of his first year) and I wrote as much here. Two and a half years in I'm not similarly sold on Wojo. Fingers still crossed.
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I'm guardedly optimistic this year. I've said many times in here that our freshmen are now sophomores and therefore more capable of playing defense on a collegiate level.
My optimism stems from the importation of senior leadership, excitement around JJJ and the hope that if we play defense on the perimeter effectively, Big Fish won't be in near constant foul trouble.
We also have more depth than I've seen since the Hillbilly retreated to the Hills and it appears we can shoot. I'm hoping we've solved the point guard problem that has plagued us since Junior was graduated and if we can rebound, the sky is the limit.
Go Warriors!!!
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MU82
That is successful season for SLU and you made my point. Sitting at home in March for third straight season is not a success in my book. I have far bigger hopes for the program than beating a team with a top three player, beating a couple of ranked teams (especially because nowadays about 50 teams a year are ranked at some point) and doubling conference wins. Thus far Wojo gets a low passing grade IMO.
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Wadesworld
Wojo has NEVER a hot commodity assistant coach prospect. His name popped up for mid level jobs but he was not a stud schools chased after. KO and TC were stud assistants and ton of programs wanted them. Wojo, not so much.
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MU82
That is successful season for SLU and you made my point. Sitting at home in March for third straight season is not a success in my book. I have far bigger hopes for the program than beating a team with a top three player, beating a couple of ranked teams (especially because nowadays about 50 teams a year are ranked at some point) and doubling conference wins. Thus far Wojo gets a low passing grade IMO.
Bert is to blame for the first 2 years of our tourney-less run. And Wojo getting us to 8-10 in the BE last year is a testament to his ability. The talent from Bert's last year to now in 3 years is pretty remarkable.
Also, Wojo had MUCH more interest in MUCH better jobs than Bert did before he was named MU's head coach.
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Wojo's recruiting shortcomings (i.e. inability to land a 4 for this season), will likely play a bigger factor than any perceived coaching issues. This team is going to get hammered nightly on the boards. It'll be the main reason behind most losses.
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Bert is to blame for the first 2 years of our tourney-less run. And Wojo getting us to 8-10 in the BE last year is a testament to his ability. The talent from Bert's last year to now in 3 years is pretty remarkable.
Also, Wojo had MUCH more interest in MUCH better jobs than Bert did before he was named MU's head coach.
Wojo has done nothing "remarkable". This is season #3 for him. He has 4 RSCI top 100 guys still on the team from the Buzz era. In his third season Buzz didn't have any players left over from the Crean regime - he went to the first of back to back S16s followed by an Elite 8. I hope Wojo improves on that but I don't think it's likely.
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Wades
I agree that Buzz had no interest from other schools and I thought it was an irresponsible and uniformed hire at the time. It turned out well on the court but ended ugly. That said, what does Buzz have to do with Wojo sitting next to Coach K or all those years and not landing a HC job?
I am not down or giving up on Wojo, yet. We are nearing another important stage in MU ball history and I hope Wojo passes the test. Unfortunately I am not overly confident he has what it takes to get the job done.
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Wades
I agree that Buzz had no interest from other schools and I thought it was an irresponsible and uniformed hire at the time. It turned out well on the court but ended ugly. That said, what does Buzz have to do with Wojo sitting next to Coach K or all those years and not landing a HC job?
I am not down or giving up on Wojo, yet. We are nearing another important stage in MU ball history and I hope Wojo passes the test. Unfortunately I am not overly confident he has what it takes to get the job done.
When it comes right down to it, I am not yet 'sold' on Wojo. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, because to my eyes I do see progress and growth. IMO, the key going forward is his ability to grow beyond his Duke roots.
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When it comes right down to it, I am not yet 'sold' on Wojo. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, because to my eyes I do see progress and growth. IMO, the key going forward is his ability to grow beyond his Duke roots.
I agree with you and I'm willing to give him at least two more season to see if he can turn the program around. As Boone stated below we have no 4 star recruits in this next class; let's hope the coaching staff sees something that we do not.
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I agree with you and I'm willing to give him at least two more season to see if he can turn the program around. As Boone stated below we have no 4 star recruits in this next class; let's hope the coaching staff sees something that we do not.
I see size and athleticism. With the exception of TJ, none is going to need to contribute immediately. IE is the kind of project you want, long and athletic with a huge upside. I am not worried about this class.
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Actually, by a '4', I was referring to the absence of a PF on the present team.
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When it comes right down to it, I am not yet 'sold' on Wojo. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, because to my eyes I do see progress and growth. IMO, the key going forward is his ability to grow beyond his Duke roots.
I am here as well. I by and large like what I see, but I'm not entirely convinced. I think this year really will tell us a lot. By and large his guys are the contributors, and even though players like JJJ and Duane weren't recruited by him, they are in year three. Wojo had to learn and grow as a coach. So we will see if it comes together this year.
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What I see as a potential problem for Wojo is that not getting to the tournament can hurt recruiting. The rank of the recruits he is able to pursue seems to be dropping. For recruiting purposes he needs to make the tournament this year to show recruits the team is moving in the right direction. Not getting to the tournament may not have to do with coaching (more about team building), but will put a lot of pressure on him in recruiting and by fans. I think this year basically seals Wojo's fate. He will not be fired after this year, but I see nothing that makes me believe next years team will be better, so not making the tournament this year likely means it turns into a five year drought and patience will become very thin.
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I am here as well. I by and large like what I see, but I'm not entirely convinced. I think this year really will tell us a lot. By and large his guys are the contributors, and even though players like JJJ and Duane weren't recruited by him, they are in year three. Wojo had to learn and grow as a coach. So we will see if it comes together this year.
This is my position as well. Optimistic about a few things but dont really know if it means success. This year is big for Wojo -- if he has 'it' - we should see it in the performance on the floor this year.
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Wojo has done nothing "remarkable". This is season #3 for him. He has 4 RSCI top 100 guys still on the team from the Buzz era. In his third season Buzz didn't have any players left over from the Crean regime - he went to the first of back to back S16s followed by an Elite 8. I hope Wojo improves on that but I don't think it's likely.
I for the most part agree with this. This is the year where comparisons to Buzz start to become valid for Wojo. This is the year I expected to see some results by. If we miss the postseason again, I'll be concerned. If we make the NIT I'll be happy with progress but unhappy because we are "behind schedule" in my original expectations for the rebuild. Make the tournament? All is well!
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I am here as well. I by and large like what I see, but I'm not entirely convinced. I think this year really will tell us a lot. By and large his guys are the contributors, and even though players like JJJ and Duane weren't recruited by him, they are in year three. Wojo had to learn and grow as a coach. So we will see if it comes together this year.
Coaching starts with recruiting. If you can not get a Power Forward this year, Henry leaving, puts him behind the 8 ball. Instead of trying to get a grad transfer, he
should have tried for a JC kid, who would be here for 2 or 3 years. My question, is the administration against that due to the Buzz era?
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I think a lot of the concern for a rebuild process comes from older people who are likely to die soon. It's a simple hope but they'd like to see Marquette relevant on the national stage one more time before giving in to the everlasting rest. Can't fault their fear.
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I think a lot of the concern for a rebuild process comes from older people who are likely to die soon. It's a simple hope but they'd like to see Marquette relevant on the national stage one more time before giving in to the everlasting rest. Can't fault their fear.
Damn
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Good point, maybe MU should try and get into the Top 20 in 20 years or so, I will be in my eighties then. Lets face it, the years of 67-77 are long gone, can not top those years for excitement, Top 10, 10 straight years. To win the whole thing again is very, very slim. But having the same success as Buzz did, was fine. That is
what Wojo and program should strive for. The ability to compete with Butler, X would be great. Maybe never get to Villy level, but why not. The board is excited about
being 2-4 against the good teams, how about 4-2. Joey and Bailey and 2 more recruits of significance in the next few years, might get MU back. Hope it happens. Looks
to me, Wojo has 2 freshman to build with. The 3 next year will help as well.
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Rebuilds take time. Sadly, we often times see teams that have a transition from NCAA team to NCAA team when there is a coach switch. Unfortunately we had a mass exodus from buzz's last year that left us 8 total players. Down to 6 in the BE season with injuries and transfers.
Last year was technically rebuild year 1.
Not trying to be a Wojo apologist (although I like him and am hopeful), but I'd say year one went well.
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I agree with you and I'm willing to give him at least two more season to see if he can turn the program around. As Boone stated below we have no 4 star recruits in this next class; let's hope the coaching staff sees something that we do not.
Jamal Cain is on a few top 100 lists and is 95 in the RSCI top 100. So that's one 4 star recruit.
Theo John rebounds, defends, set screens, and blocks shots. His offense is a bit raw so he is not rated a 4 star. But coaches value the things John does well. Hopefully they can help him develop on offense.
Eke is raw but big and athletic. Fits our need for size.
Hopefully Epperson in the spring, which would be another 4 star in some rankings.
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Rebuilds take time. Sadly, we often times see teams that have a transition from NCAA team to NCAA team when there is a coach switch. Unfortunately we had a mass exodus from buzz's last year that left us 8 total players. Down to 6 in the BE season with injuries and transfers.
Last year was technically rebuild year 1.
Not trying to be a Wojo apologist (although I like him and am hopeful), but I'd say year one went well.
Year 2 should be better, deepest team in a long time, not even sure who starts or minutes used. Lost Henry, but gained 4 players, that all have the ability to score.
Plus experience with returnees and the 2 transfers. Schedule is harder, not as many cupcakes. Vandy will be good test to start. They lost 2 NBA players, we lost 1
and have a new coach.
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Vandy will be good test to start. They lost 2 NBA players, we lost 1
and have a new coach.
We have a new coach? Missed that one.
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I agree with Lazar--- Epperson is height, needs weight. Saw Badgers
Red-White game. Van Vliet (built like Epperson), I think by the time B-10
rolls around is the "real deal". Epp with some poundage, could be in the same mold. Like our 2017 class. Cain is a keeper.
We must land Joey or Race Thompson or both. We would be on the map with these guys.
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Not to speak for Goose, but that is a strong word there -- maybe some just have the opinion that the rebuild didnt need to be as deep, it could have happened quicker with a different recruiting strategy or more could have been done with the talent ...Nothing wrong with that. No indictment just a healthy dose of skepticism.
I agree with you that that its results time from here forward and the academic discussions about the cupboard or judging just how deep of a hole we started in is done.....time to once again feel like we have a chance at the tourney every year.
Fair enough. Word choice was a bit strong. I believe the expectations were unrealistic, would have been better.
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Wades
I agree that Buzz had no interest from other schools and I thought it was an irresponsible and uniformed hire at the time. It turned out well on the court but ended ugly. That said, what does Buzz have to do with Wojo sitting next to Coach K or all those years and not landing a HC job?
I am not down or giving up on Wojo, yet. We are nearing another important stage in MU ball history and I hope Wojo passes the test. Unfortunately I am not overly confident he has what it takes to get the job done.
Don't really buy this argument. Wojo sat next to one or both of Dawkins and Collins for 14 years too. He had name recognition, sure, but no big name program wants to hire a 3rd assistant even if it is from Duke. Imagine MU hiring Wojo if Dawkins and/or Collins were still at Duke. Scoop would crap its collective self. Once they left and he was lead assistant, he started to get more recognition as a HC candidate.
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IMO at this point we are just at the beginning of the rebuilding process and think vast improvement is needed sooner than later. I honestly am not sure Wojo can coach or not. One thing I do know is that it took Wojo an awfully long time to a HC gig and that worried me at the time.
That's interesting. Didn't it seem like he was sticking around for the HC job at Duke, though? I'd have to assume schools offered him jobs in the past but he only seriously entertained an offer after Coach K said he was sticking around another 5 years and the fit seemed right.
I don't disagree with you, though: dude can recruit but we just don't know if he can coach.
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That's interesting. Didn't it seem like he was sticking around for the HC job at Duke, though? I'd have to assume schools offered him jobs in the past but he only seriously entertained an offer after Coach K said he was sticking around another 5 years and the fit seemed right.
I don't disagree with you, though: dude can recruit but we just don't know if he can coach.
Now whether Wojo was buttering up the MU faithful or not, I'm not sure. But I seem to remember him saying something along the lines of MU being a right fit because of their Basketball first tradition.
Don't quote me though.
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Don't really buy this argument. Wojo sat next to one or both of Dawkins and Collins for 14 years too. He had name recognition, sure, but no big name program wants to hire a 3rd assistant even if it is from Duke. Imagine MU hiring Wojo if Dawkins and/or Collins were still at Duke. Scoop would crap its collective self. Once they left and he was lead assistant, he started to get more recognition as a HC candidate.
Put this another way...
Tom Crean was an assistant for 12 years before becoming a head coach at 34 years old.
Buzz Williams: 12 year, if you county becoming coach for one year at UNO, at 34.
Wojo was an assistant for 15 years and 37 when he came here.
That isn't really all that different. He just happened to be an assistant at one place.
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We have a new coach? Missed that one.
They do!
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They do!
I know. But that was not what you typed. #grammarmatters
Just giving you a hard time if you couldn't tell.
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I know. But that was not what you typed. #grammarmatters
Just giving you a hard time if you couldn't tell.
I know, sometimes I just type and do not proofread. I never got an A in English, maybe an A in business.
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One thing we can agree on. We are all excited about the season starting and seeing our Warriors on the court.
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Tom Crean was an assistant for 12 years before becoming a head coach at 34 years old.
Buzz Williams: 12 year, if you county becoming coach for one year at UNO, at 34.
Wojo was an assistant for 15 years and 37 when he came here.
That isn't really all that different. He just happened to be an assistant at one place.
Great point. Ultimately, Wojo will have to stand on his own. This season and the next will say everything about who he is as a coach.
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Jamal Cain is on a few top 100 lists and is 95 in the RSCI top 100. So that's one 4 star recruit.
Theo John rebounds, defends, set screens, and blocks shots. His offense is a bit raw so he is not rated a 4 star. But coaches value the things John does well. Hopefully they can help him develop on offense.
Eke is raw but big and athletic. Fits our need for size.
Hopefully Epperson in the spring, which would be another 4 star in some rankings.
I don't care what they are ranked; can they play. A lot of successful teams don't have star recruits. Quite a few of Buzz's 4 stars turned out to be duds.
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I don't care what they are ranked; can they play. A lot of successful teams don't have star recruits. Quite a few of Buzz's 4 stars turned out to be duds.
Erik Williams and Jamail Jones were stars!
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I don't care what they are ranked; can they play. A lot of successful teams don't have star recruits. Quite a few of Buzz's 4 stars turned out to be duds.
I agree that is the key. Rankings are fun for fans. They have some predictability in the long run but that breaks down at the individual level.
I was responding to those who are lamenting our recruiting slipping. This class has the size we need and some nice athleticism. Wojo and the staff need to do their job and develop these players.
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Erik Williams and Jamail Jones were stars!
For that matter, JJJ was really highly ranked, he has been OK at times, but Top 50 his year, not sure he has earned that high ranking as well. I really believe that maybe
Top 20 kids have a chance to go to the pros.
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Good point, maybe MU should try and get into the Top 20 in 20 years or so, I will be in my eighties then. Lets face it, the years of 67-77 are long gone, can not top those years for excitement, Top 10, 10 straight years. To win the whole thing again is very, very slim. But having the same success as Buzz did, was fine. That is
what Wojo and program should strive for. The ability to compete with Butler, X would be great. Maybe never get to Villy level, but why not. The board is excited about
being 2-4 against the good teams, how about 4-2. Joey and Bailey and 2 more recruits of significance in the next few years, might get MU back. Hope it happens. Looks
to me, Wojo has 2 freshman to build with. The 3 next year will help as well.
I am not really expecting MU to win another title in my lifetime. Heck, I am not expecting the Big East to win another title in my lifetime. What are reasonable expectations? I think we should be as good or better than Xavier. We should expect each preseason to pick up a basketball magazine and see that we are predicted to make the tournament. We may not, but it should be a real possibility. I think we generally expect to get at least to the round of 32. Being in the round of 32 may not even mean you are a top 20 team, so it is not an unreasonable expectation.
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I am not really expecting MU to win another title in my lifetime. Heck, I am not expecting the Big East to win another title in my lifetime. What are reasonable expectations? I think we should be as good or better than Xavier. We should expect each preseason to pick up a basketball magazine and see that we are predicted to make the tournament. We may not, but it should be a real possibility. I think we generally expect to get at least to the round of 32. Being in the round of 32 may not even mean you are a top 20 team, so it is not an unreasonable expectation.
I don't know how old you are and certainly hope you are able to see MU win another title. I expect the Big East to win another one in the next 10 years at the very longest. The conference is on it's way up in a big way and this year Nova/Xavier could realistically win it.
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Put this another way...
Tom Crean was an assistant for 12 years before becoming a head coach at 34 years old.
Buzz Williams: 12 year, if you county becoming coach for one year at UNO, at 34.
Wojo was an assistant for 15 years and 37 when he came here.
That isn't really all that different. He just happened to be an assistant at one place.
Silly Sultan ... you and your damn facts.
I'm optimistic. I viewed last year as a nice stepping stone. I have high hopes for Wojo and I hope he realizes his potential as a coach this season. I mean, lots of Marquette fans and plenty of Hoosiers contend Crean STILL can't coach.
I am as big a Warriors fan as anybody, and of course I want to win big again. I went to our Elite 8 run in DC and had an effen blast before, during and after that Miami game. I'm just extremely realistic when it comes to rebuilding.
Plus, I just don't let myself get overly frustrated at things I can't control. I know that venting is one of the purposes of sites such as Scoop, so I guess it's my personality that I simply can't get too wound up about 18-22 year olds playing a game for the amusement of old men.
Go Warriors!
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For that matter, JJJ was really highly ranked, he has been OK at times, but Top 50 his year, not sure he has earned that high ranking as well. I really believe that maybe
Top 20 kids have a chance to go to the pros.
That's why when I look at Holylandofhoops and see all the Creighton or Xavier fans going crazy because they got some highly ranked commitment I find myself laughing. They'll get to that jaded "wait and see" moment though
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I don't know how old you are and certainly hope you are able to see MU win another title. I expect the Big East to win another one in the next 10 years at the very longest. The conference is on it's way up in a big way and this year Nova/Xavier could realistically win it.
I am 64, and I may not last 10 years.
As far as Big East Villanova won last year and I am guessing previously it was 1985, so maybe in another 30 years
MU won in 1977 so 39 years in counting
Creighton, Xavier, Butler, Seton Hall, DePaul and Providence do not have a title.
I do not think St. John's have ever won a title
Georgetown with Ewing, which has to 30+ years ago.
Sure the Big East could win a title in the next 10 years, but how likely is it? You do not have to be the best team to win it, you just have to be playing really well and win the nail biter you will likely play in the tournament.
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I don't know how old you are and certainly hope you are able to see MU win another title. I expect the Big East to win another one in the next 10 years at the very longest. The conference is on it's way up in a big way and this year Nova/Xavier could realistically win it.
I don't know, just ask the Big 10 how hard it is to win National championships