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Title: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Herman Cain on August 18, 2016, 03:03:05 PM
I believe Sam Hauser has considerable upside potential. He has grown physically, has a very smooth shot and excellent basketball IQ.  His background of playing on championship teams is going to be very beneficial, as I believe he will do very well within a college team concept.  Looking forward to seeing him progress over the course of the season and adjust to the Big East pace of play.  I think by the end of the season he will be an important contributor to the team.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: real chili 83 on August 18, 2016, 03:31:49 PM
A young Derrick Wilson, A' aianaaa?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Herman Cain on August 18, 2016, 03:35:07 PM
A young Derrick Wilson, A' aianaaa?
He can shoot better.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: wadesworld on August 18, 2016, 03:39:32 PM
How many high major D1 basketball players didn't play in a winning culture in high school? If you're a high major player chances are you yourself can get your team to a 0.666 win percentage. If you have half way competent teammates you're probably competing at for conference championships and beyond.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: brewcity77 on August 18, 2016, 03:45:27 PM
That's 3/12, only 9 to go.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on August 18, 2016, 03:46:49 PM
Informative stuff.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Herman Cain on August 18, 2016, 03:59:13 PM
How many high major D1 basketball players didn't play in a winning culture in high school? If you're a high major player chances are you yourself can get your team to a 0.666 win percentage. If you have half way competent teammates you're probably competing at for conference championships and beyond.
Being part of back to back State Championships is very impressive. 
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: MU82 on August 18, 2016, 03:59:23 PM
A young Derrick Wilson, A' aianaaa?

Huh?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: real chili 83 on August 18, 2016, 04:09:01 PM
Huh?

Didn't think I needed teal.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: barfolomew on August 18, 2016, 04:56:30 PM
Didn't think I needed teal.

That's what's I'm having put on my epitaph.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: real chili 83 on August 18, 2016, 06:45:31 PM
I believe Sam Hauser has considerable upside potential. He has grown physically, has a very smooth shot and excellent basketball IQ.  His background of playing on championship teams is going to be very beneficial, as I believe he will do very well within a college team concept.  Looking forward to seeing him progress over the course of the season and adjust to the Big East pace of play.  I think by the end of the season he will be an important contributor to the team.

He'll be really good if he can score a lot.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Nukem2 on August 18, 2016, 07:05:39 PM
He'll be really good if he can score a lot.
Amazing insight here.  And, don't tell us you forgot to use Scoop teal.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: TedBaxter on August 18, 2016, 07:18:45 PM
How many high major D1 basketball players didn't play in a winning culture in high school? If you're a high major player chances are you yourself can get your team to a 0.666 win percentage. If you have half way competent teammates you're probably competing at for conference championships and beyond.

I'm going to go out on a limb and the say the Stevens Point team had one of the highest basketball IQ's of any team in Wisconsin high school tournament history.  Maybe the highest I've seen and I've watched WIAA games since 1969.  Sam Hauser was a big part of that IQ.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: wadesworld on August 18, 2016, 07:20:00 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and the say the Stevens Point team had one of the highest basketball IQ's of any team in Wisconsin high school tournament history.  Maybe the highest I've seen and I've watched WIAA games since 1969.  Sam Hauser was a big part of that IQ.

...I'll ask again, how many high major D1 basketball players didn't play in a winning culture in high school?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 18, 2016, 08:52:38 PM
Duz anythin' related ta Warrior hoops suck ass for Yankee, hey?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 18, 2016, 09:06:00 PM
Duz anythin' related ta Warrior hoops suck ass for Yankee, hey?

Just Wojo
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 18, 2016, 09:17:24 PM
He'll be really good if he can score a lot.

Let's keep this about basketball hey. one area sammy won't want to be known as "sudden" heyyyooo, Ain'er hey?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Herman Cain on August 18, 2016, 09:35:20 PM
Duz anythin' related ta Warrior hoops suck ass for Yankee, hey?


Just Wojo

I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: jesmu84 on August 18, 2016, 10:20:38 PM
That's 3/12, only 9 to go.

I agree with this analysis.

Strange posting choices
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: fjm on August 19, 2016, 01:37:46 AM
That's 3/12, only 9 to go.
I'll help him reach 12.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Benny B on August 19, 2016, 09:21:25 AM
The value of p (i.e. probability for those of you who don't habla statisticos) in relation to one's upside potential converting to upside performance has an asymptotic relationship to time.  As follows:

Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: fjm on August 19, 2016, 09:57:02 AM
The value of p (i.e. probability for those of you who don't habla statisticos) in relation to one's upside potential converting to upside performance has an asymptotic relationship to time.  As follows:
:o
What?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 19, 2016, 11:10:26 AM


you had me at P.i.e
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 19, 2016, 11:18:10 AM
The value of p (i.e. probability for those of you who don't habla statisticos) in relation to one's upside potential converting to upside performance has an asymptotic relationship to time.  As follows:

Wow, a post of an order of magnitude.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Benny B on August 19, 2016, 11:46:48 AM

you had me at P.i.e

 ;D
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 19, 2016, 12:17:42 PM
;D


I Hope MU-NY might read your post.  thanks
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Newsdreams on August 19, 2016, 01:49:30 PM
The value of p (i.e. probability for those of you who don't habla statisticos) in relation to one's upside potential converting to upside performance has an asymptotic relationship to time.  As follows:
Stop the hyperboli  :P
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: brandx on August 19, 2016, 02:53:24 PM
I believe Sam Hauser has considerable upside potential.

Proves Wojo is a good coach. I really hated it when we recruited guys with downside potential.
Title: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Herman Cain on September 30, 2016, 08:31:15 AM
From everything I am hearing, the coaches believe Sam is going to a very important player for our program. In fact they are comparing him favorably to Henry, in that he can do so many things at a very high level , with a much better shot and more refined basketball IQ. It seems like Sam has built some good chemistry with the rest of the team and his game really helps bring out the best in some of the other guys. I am really looking forward to seeing how he does in the tougher non conference games.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on September 30, 2016, 08:32:49 AM
Is that what the voices told you?
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 30, 2016, 08:34:33 AM
It's been awhile. I think we just need threads on Sandy, Sacar, and Heldt now.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Herman Cain on September 30, 2016, 08:36:47 AM
It's been awhile. I think we just need threads on Sandy, Sacar, and Heldt now.
Hauser, Heldt, Fischer and Duane are my focus group . Anything we get from Sandy and Sacar is gravy.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: naginiF on September 30, 2016, 08:48:15 AM
Hauser, Heldt, Fischer and Duane, Kostas, Cain, Tillman, Tillman's mom, the MSU fan board, and Tillman's girlfriend are my current focus group . Anything we get from Sandy and Sacar is gravy and i'll add any other recruit later
FIFY
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: mu03eng on September 30, 2016, 08:49:15 AM
It's been awhile. I think we just need threads on Sandy, Sacar, and Heldt now.

We'd have to find him first
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Herman Cain on September 30, 2016, 08:59:42 AM
FIFY
Yes definitely any other recruit. Good catch.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Warrior Code on September 30, 2016, 09:19:25 AM
We'd have to find him first

I missed this. What's the joke?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: fjm on September 30, 2016, 09:20:44 AM
Why didn't you just reply to the thread you ALREADY started. A thread stating the SAME thing with a similar title?

Heisy....
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: fjm on September 30, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
I missed this. What's the joke?

There was rumor (as there always is) of someone transferring. Then there was a picture of the guys and Sacar wasn't in it... so of course someone posted the picture and said "where is Sacar?" Then discussing how Sacar is definitely transferring.

The worst part is that Scoop... myself included, can't find him! Where are you Sacar!?
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: GGGG on September 30, 2016, 09:23:39 AM
Not only someone ask "where is Sacar," he asked it about a dozen times.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: fjm on September 30, 2016, 09:24:26 AM
Not only someone ask "where is Sacar," he asked it about a dozen times.

Haha yeah true. He wouldn't let it go. And it is now part of MU lore.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Warrior Code on September 30, 2016, 09:38:36 AM
Thanks. Can't believe I missed that one.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Newsdreams on September 30, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
I missed this. What's the joke?
You've been missing too, hey?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Herman Cain on September 30, 2016, 09:59:32 AM
Why didn't you just reply to the thread you ALREADY started. A thread stating the SAME thing with a similar title?

Heisy....
Jesse
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Benny B on September 30, 2016, 10:19:19 AM
Jesse

What the hell are you worried about?  This is 1874.  You'll be able to sue her!
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: mu03eng on September 30, 2016, 10:46:31 AM
Thanks. Can't believe I missed that one.

Well if some a$$hole had hosted the Meme tournament this off season that never would have happened.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/C7v6mvHrciUcE/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: 🏀 on September 30, 2016, 11:00:43 AM
What the hell kind of post is this?
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Newsdreams on September 30, 2016, 11:06:20 AM
What the hell kind of post is this?
Scoop
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 30, 2016, 11:10:32 AM
We'd have to find him first

Open three from the corner and swish
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Newsdreams on September 30, 2016, 11:20:41 AM
Where are the MODS? With all the fees we pay here they should have fixed this already. I want my money back!
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: The Lens on September 30, 2016, 11:20:59 AM
From everything I am hearing, the coaches believe Sam is going to a very important player for our program. In fact they are comparing him favorably to Henry, in that he can do so many things at a very high level , with a much better shot and more refined basketball IQ. It seems like Sam has built some good chemistry with the rest of the team and his game really helps bring out the best in some of the other guys. I am really looking forward to seeing how he does in the tougher non conference games.

Sounds like mind games to me
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: The Lens on September 30, 2016, 11:30:24 AM
From everything I am hearing, the coaches believe Sam is going to a very important player for our program. In fact they are comparing him favorably to Henry, in that he can do so many things at a very high level , with a much better shot and more refined basketball IQ. It seems like Sam has built some good chemistry with the rest of the team and his game really helps bring out the best in some of the other guys. I am really looking forward to seeing how he does in the tougher non conference games.

Also, you have me concerned now that Sam will leave for the NBA after his freshman year and our best recruiter for Joey will be gone.  So now it looks like Sam Hauser will cost us a chance at Joey.  Which makes me think that Sam is really a detriment to the program?  Should we cut ties with Sam now?
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on September 30, 2016, 11:55:06 AM
Why are there two separate posts about this topic, both started by MUFNY?

One should have been started by Gus.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: mu03eng on September 30, 2016, 12:50:56 PM
Why are there two separate posts about this topic, both started by MUFNY?

One should have been started by Gus.

One was intended to talk about what Sam's girlfriend thought about all of his upside potential but went off topic.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on September 30, 2016, 12:58:02 PM
Why are there two separate posts about this topic, both started by MUFNY?


Because the last one wasn't taken seriously and started a myriad of threads about 'next year's contribution' in parody of OP

Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GB Warrior on September 30, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
The value of p (i.e. probability for those of you who don't habla statisticos) in relation to one's upside potential converting to upside performance has an asymptotic relationship to time.  As follows:

Don't tell that to the Bears/Jay Cutler.
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on September 30, 2016, 03:53:59 PM
Scoop
Well, the Tex/MUFANNY/Gus version of Scoop delirium at least
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: rocket surgeon on October 01, 2016, 06:51:55 AM
The real upside to "sudden" Sam is his relationship with his bro and having unlimited access and recruiting visits with him. 
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: wadesworld on October 01, 2016, 11:32:55 AM
The real upside to "sudden" Sam is his relationship with his bro and having unlimited access and recruiting visits with him.

Not really.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GGGG on October 01, 2016, 11:34:46 AM
Yeah Sam aint Joey's Wally.  Darn good player all on his own.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Herman Cain on October 01, 2016, 11:45:43 PM
Yeah Sam aint Joey's Wally.  Darn good player all on his own.
Sam is going to make people forget Henry.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: wadesworld on October 02, 2016, 12:05:15 AM
Sam is going to make people forget Henry.

Again, not really.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GGGG on October 02, 2016, 06:25:50 AM
Sam is going to make people forget Henry.

Is he a hypnotist?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Marcus92 on October 02, 2016, 11:41:02 AM
Sam is going to make people forget Henry.

I doubt that Sam Hauser is going to set Marquette's all-time freshman rebounding record, make the All Big East team in his first season or get the kind of national attention that Henry did.

That said, Sam will have more than a single season to make an an impression on fans. It all depends on just how good he can become over his college career, and how well MU does as a team.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Loose Cannon on October 02, 2016, 12:11:18 PM
Sam is going to make people forget Henry.Wally
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on October 02, 2016, 01:05:42 PM
Read a comment from Sam a couple months ago, that he has grown t a Eller and stronger.  Is he 6'8" now?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 02, 2016, 04:26:20 PM
Read a comment from Sam a couple months ago, that he has grown t a Eller and stronger.  Is he 6'8" now?
6"7.5 235 lb per Wojo per Chick
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Herman Cain on October 02, 2016, 06:26:07 PM
Again, not really.
Other than pure size , Sam has better skills than Henry.  Moreover he is the consummate team player. He will not get a chance to ball hog , take bad shots without penalty and showcase at the expense of the team like Henry did, so he will likely have lower production stats year one but over time if we are going places as a team , Hauser will be the catalyst.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Jay Bee on October 02, 2016, 06:43:28 PM
Other than pure size , Sam has better skills than Henry.  Moreover he is the consummate team player. He will not get a chance to ball hog , take bad shots without penalty and showcase at the expense of the team like Henry did, so he will likely have lower production stats year one but over time if we are going places as a team , Hauser will be the catalyst.

Smh
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: brandx on October 02, 2016, 07:09:44 PM
Other than pure size , Sam has better skills than Henry.  Moreover he is the consummate team player. He will not get a chance to ball hog , take bad shots without penalty and showcase at the expense of the team like Henry did, so he will likely have lower production stats year one but over time if we are going places as a team , Hauser will be the catalyst.

I'd put him up there with Durant. Not really fair to Sam to compare him to MJ .......yet.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: fjm on October 02, 2016, 07:13:31 PM
Sam is going to make people forget Henry.

Comments like this drive me to drink...

And if anyone is wondering, tonight it is Buffalo trace and ginger beer.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: wadesworld on October 02, 2016, 07:36:03 PM
Other than pure size , Sam has better skills than Henry.  Moreover he is the consummate team player. He will not get a chance to ball hog , take bad shots without penalty and showcase at the expense of the team like Henry did, so he will likely have lower production stats year one but over time if we are going places as a team , Hauser will be the catalyst.

Sam will be great for Marquette. The problem with your thinking of Hank hurting the team and being treated like royalty is that you don't understand basketball.

By your logic, the Cavs let LeBron dominate the ball way too much and need to get guys like Mo Williams and Richard Jefferson way more involved to succeed.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Folks,,, on October 03, 2016, 12:15:05 AM
Sam will be great for Marquette. The problem with your thinking of Hank hurting the team and being treated like royalty is that you don't understand basketball.

By your logic, the Cavs let LeBron dominate the ball way too much and need to get guys like Mo Williams and Richard Jefferson way more involved to succeed.

Preach. Preach. Preach.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Benny B on October 03, 2016, 09:58:14 AM
Other than pure size , Sam has better skills than Henry.  Moreover he is the consummate team player. He will not get a chance to ball hog , take bad shots without penalty and showcase at the expense of the team like Henry did, so he will likely have lower production stats year one but over time if we are going places as a team , Hauser will be the catalyst.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/4leQ3wYJYGz6M/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on October 03, 2016, 05:59:10 PM
Sam is a winner and will definitely help Marquette win this year.  Excited to watch him play.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Class71 on October 03, 2016, 06:27:48 PM
I doubt that Sam Hauser is going to set Marquette's all-time freshman rebounding record, make the All Big East team in his first season or get the kind of national attention that Henry did.

That said, Sam will have more than a single season to make an an impression on fans. It all depends on just how good he can become over his college career, and how well MU does as a team.

All good points but we did not win with HE so lets move on and see what the next generation brings.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GGGG on October 04, 2016, 06:56:11 AM
All good points but we did not win with HE so lets move on and see what the next generation brings.


We won with Henry. 
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: bilsu on October 04, 2016, 07:41:24 AM
Sam is going to make people forget Henry.
I could see this happening. James allowed me to forget Diener. In the end Diener was the better player and he is also one of my favorite all-time players, but James was very exciting and was so good right out of the gate that I never got to the point I missed Diener. When this team opens up with a win at Vanderbilt vs. a loss to Belmont most fans will of forgotten (not stopped appreciateding) Henry especially if Sam hits some key shots.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Benny B on October 04, 2016, 09:00:27 AM
I could see this happening. James allowed me to forget Diener. In the end Diener was the better player and he is also one of my favorite all-time players, but James was very exciting and was so good right out of the gate that I never got to the point I missed Diener. When this team opens up with a win at Vanderbilt vs. a loss to Belmont most fans will of forgotten (not stopped appreciateding) Henry especially if Sam hits some key shots.

From this perspective, I hope to be forgetting Henry very soon. 
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 04, 2016, 01:26:00 PM

We won with Henry.

We won against IUPI, Jackson St., Grambling, Maine, San Jose St., Chicago St., Presbyterian and Stetson.

Against real teams we were 12-13. If that's considered "winning" now at Marquette....
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: HoopsterBC on October 04, 2016, 03:02:46 PM
We won against IUPI, Jackson St., Grambling, Maine, San Jose St., Chicago St., Presbyterian and Stetson.

Against real teams we were 12-13. If that's considered "winning" now at Marquette....

Lenny,  good point, cupcakes abound last year with freshman.  This year looks a little different.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: 🏀 on October 04, 2016, 03:21:02 PM
We won against IUPI, Jackson St., Grambling, Maine, San Jose St., Chicago St., Presbyterian and Stetson.

Against real teams we were 12-13. If that's considered "winning" now at Marquette....

Outside of Jackson State, MU has played all of those opponents more than three times. Stetson, Grambling and Chicago State go back to the 70/80s.

Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: MuMark on October 11, 2016, 02:05:13 PM
Tweet from media day

Steve Wojciechowski is expecting FR Sam Hauser to have a big role this year: "He’s a guy that’s different than other guys in our program."
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GGGG on October 11, 2016, 02:06:47 PM
Tweet from media day

Steve Wojciechowski is expecting FR Sam Hauser to have a big role this year: "He’s a guy that’s different than other guys in our program."


"He's got a REALLY good brother."

(Just kidding.)
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 11, 2016, 02:13:15 PM
We won against IUPI, Jackson St., Grambling, Maine, San Jose St., Chicago St., Presbyterian and Stetson.

Against real teams we were 12-13. If that's considered "winning" now at Marquette....

Hey Jackson State was a top-200 RPI team!


 8-)
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Badgerhater on October 11, 2016, 02:37:19 PM
We won against IUPI, Jackson St., Grambling, Maine, San Jose St., Chicago St., Presbyterian and Stetson.

Against real teams we were 12-13. If that's considered "winning" now at Marquette....

Basically all that Henry Ellenson was memorable for last season for was a win vs. Wisconsin.  While always enjoyable, we won't be remembering it after our next win against the rodents.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: MuMark on October 11, 2016, 02:41:51 PM
Basically all that Henry Ellenson was memorable for last season for was a win vs. Wisconsin.  While always enjoyable, we won't be remembering it after our next win against the rodents.

He was pretty memorable in the Butler win. Also Big East Freshman of the year.

Possibly the best  true freshman season in MU history......I would say it was all pretty memorable.

smh
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GGGG on October 11, 2016, 02:44:30 PM
Basically all that Henry Ellenson was memorable for last season for was a win vs. Wisconsin.  While always enjoyable, we won't be remembering it after our next win against the rodents.


Nah.  I was at the BC when he had 32/10 with six blocks v. Butler.  Real fun game with a dominating performance.  I'll remember that for awhile.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Badgerhater on October 11, 2016, 03:38:00 PM

Nah.  I was at the BC when he had 32/10 with six blocks v. Butler.  Real fun game with a dominating performance.  I'll remember that for awhile.

Games within a season that have some degree of remembrance and importance (not in any order)

Any NCAA tournament game (even the Michigan State debacle was memorable)
We win a conference tournament (CUSA!)
The annual Wisconsin game until the next year (We have Badger Hate Week for a reason)
Conference games with amazing endings either good or bad (the Jerry F#$#@$# Smith rule)
Games never played (aircraft carrier)
Winning an early season tournament with a benchwarmer going off (Ryan Amaroso Rule)
Truly elite performance against a top ten team (Steve Novak vs. UCONN)
Clinching the conference regular season (Beating St. Johns in OT in 2013)

But some win against 10-8 Butler when MU went 8-10?  I hope we have more memorable games than that one very soon.

As far as individual honors in a team game.....they are nice, but I remember Jae Crowder's BE POY because MU had a great conference season and good tourney run.





Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Newsdreams on October 11, 2016, 06:15:08 PM
Games within a season that have some degree of remembrance and importance (not in any order)

Any NCAA tournament game (even the Michigan State debacle was memorable)
We win a conference tournament (CUSA!)
The annual Wisconsin game until the next year (We have Badger Hate Week for a reason)
Conference games with amazing endings either good or bad (the Jerry F#$#@$# Smith rule)
Games never played (aircraft carrier)
Winning an early season tournament with a benchwarmer going off (Ryan Amaroso Rule)
Truly elite performance against a top ten team (Steve Novak vs. UCONN)
Clinching the conference regular season (Beating St. Johns in OT in 2013)

But some win against 10-8 Butler when MU went 8-10?  I hope we have more memorable games than that one very soon.

As far as individual honors in a team game.....they are nice, but I remember Jae Crowder's BE POY because MU had a great conference season and good tourney run.
Haters gone hate. Don't think we even win 17 games without Henry. They were young, inexperienced, and inconsistent. They beat good teams and lost at least 2-3 games to lousy teams due to frosh mistakes. We even had a chance against Nova at the BC but in the end lots of frosh mistakes. So, you think Henry with this year's team would no make a difference?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 11, 2016, 06:20:09 PM
We even had a chance against Nova at the BC but in the end lots of frosh mistakes.

I agree with your over arching point but this statement is an optimistic recollection.  Henry had a terrible game and they toyed with us for the most part.  We didn't get blown out though!
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Newsdreams on October 11, 2016, 06:47:50 PM
I agree with your over arching point but this statement is an optimistic recollection.  Henry had a terrible game and they toyed with us for the most part.  We didn't get blown out though!
As I recall we were right there in the last 5 minutes made some stupid turnovers, missed layups,and open jumpers within 15' of the basket. Was at the game, felt they played really well but at the end they blew it, you could see that inexperience really hurt them. But if they had played all like they did that game we win at least 2 to 3 more games.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on October 11, 2016, 06:51:30 PM

"He's got a REALLY good brother."

(Just kidding.)
Are doing what we did with Henry except with Joey Hauser? Getting his brother here was huuuge
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 11, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
But if they had played all like they did that game we win at least 2 to 3 more games.

I agree with this. 

The BC crowd really wanted to will them to a W but I seem to remember we made it close a few times - then Jay would call a TO and yell at everyone and then V would go on a run.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: GGGG on October 11, 2016, 06:54:13 PM
Are doing what we did with Henry except with Joey Hauser? Getting his brother here was huuuge


Sam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wally
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: wadesworld on October 11, 2016, 07:32:11 PM

Sam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wally

You don't have enough >s in there (no, seriously).

Sam was brought in because he's really, really good at basketball. Walter was brought in because his brother is really good at basketball and he was on par with the Rec Center kids we were going to need to add to fill out a roster.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: real chili 83 on October 11, 2016, 09:18:42 PM
As I recall we were right there in the last 5 minutes made some stupid turnovers, missed layups,and open jumpers within 15' of the basket. Was at the game, felt they played really well but at the end they blew it, you could see that inexperience really hurt them. But if they had played all like they did that game we win at least 2 to 3 more games.

I agree with this analysis.  Were you at that game?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Newsdreams on October 11, 2016, 09:31:11 PM
I agree with this analysis.  Were you at that game?
Almost positive I was there
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: real chili 83 on October 11, 2016, 09:33:58 PM
Almost positive I was there

I'll bring the mamajuana this year.  :o
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Newsdreams on October 11, 2016, 09:50:46 PM
I'll bring the mamajuana this year.  :o
Already making plans with my sons and just about have my wife agreeing to go
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: keefe on October 11, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
We won against IUPI, Jackson St., Grambling, Maine, San Jose St., Chicago St., Presbyterian and Stetson.

Against real teams we were 12-13. If that's considered "winning" now at Marquette....

Well said, Mr Bernstein.

I remain optimistic but we need to see real progress. Now.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 11, 2016, 11:06:54 PM
I remain optimistic but we need to see real progress. Now.

Only because if I don't, MU82 will.

Or what?
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: barfolomew on October 11, 2016, 11:19:17 PM

Or what?

Or prepare for a rain of death, destruction, and indescriminate haiku!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW3gZsF74wY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW3gZsF74wY)

Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: keefe on October 12, 2016, 04:12:33 AM

Or what?

the depths of despair
take me to the promised land
harbaugh as moses
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: swoopem on October 12, 2016, 07:10:12 AM
the depths of despair
take me to the promised land
harbaugh as moses

Always loved the Alabama Getaway>Promise Land opener.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: bilsu on October 12, 2016, 07:18:31 AM
Games within a season that have some degree of remembrance and importance (not in any order)

Any NCAA tournament game (even the Michigan State debacle was memorable)
We win a conference tournament (CUSA!)
The annual Wisconsin game until the next year (We have Badger Hate Week for a reason)
Conference games with amazing endings either good or bad (the Jerry F#$#@$# Smith rule)
Games never played (aircraft carrier)
Winning an early season tournament with a benchwarmer going off (Ryan Amaroso Rule)Truly elite performance against a top ten team (Steve Novak vs. UCONN)
Clinching the conference regular season (Beating St. Johns in OT in 2013)

But some win against 10-8 Butler when MU went 8-10?  I hope we have more memorable games than that one very soon.

As far as individual honors in a team game.....they are nice, but I remember Jae Crowder's BE POY because MU had a great conference season and good tourney run.
My biggest memory of Amoroso is getting a foul on the free throw line allowing Louisville to steal a game from us. How do you get a foul in a non rebounding opportunity. I do not remember if it was the first free throw on a two shot foul or if Louisville actually made the free throw, but it was totally stupid play by Amoroso.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 12, 2016, 09:49:08 AM
Well said, Mr Bernstein.

I remain optimistic but we need to see real progress. Now.

Didn't miss this kind of insight.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on October 12, 2016, 10:08:54 AM
Agree that Sam Hauser will be a great contributor this year.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: fjm on October 12, 2016, 10:14:16 AM
Sam will see loads of minutes at the 4. He's got the height and wing span.

Sadly I don't know that he is as aggressive as we need. But that added weight will surely help!
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: HoopsterBC on October 12, 2016, 10:38:22 AM
If Sam is the man, the family will love what Wojo did for there son and then could see Joey follow.  I do believe Sam and Reinhardt will play the 4 with Cohen, they
will all try at least.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: MUfan12 on October 12, 2016, 10:38:44 AM
Sadly I don't know that he is as aggressive as we need. But that added weight will surely help!

I'm not worried about that. His minutes will depend on how he guards and rebounds. He'll be aggressive enough.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 12, 2016, 10:50:18 AM
Only because if I don't, MU82 will.

Or what?

Or we'll fail to play in the NIT or the NCAAs for the 4th consecutive year.

MU first played in a postseason tournament in the 1954-55 season. Our current streak of 3 consecutive misses is futility matched only once (1962-65) since. If Wojo breaks that record this year I don't think it means his seat is hot (or even warm). But it will mean that we've been bad for a longer period of time than ever before in modern (or even semi modern) history. To me, anyway, that would be a little troubling.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 12, 2016, 11:05:51 AM
Or we'll fail to play in the NIT or the NCAAs for the 4th consecutive year.

MU first played in a postseason tournament in the 1954-55 season. Our current streak of 3 consecutive misses is futility matched only once (1962-65) since. If Wojo breaks that record this year I don't think it means his seat is hot (or even warm). But it will mean that we've been bad for a longer period of time than ever before in modern (or even semi modern) history. To me, anyway, that would be a little troubling.

A very fair answer
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: MuMark on October 12, 2016, 11:07:35 AM
The first year Buzz was the coach...Wojo's first year he had no chance with the group he inherited.

Last year was the start of the rebuild with one of the youngest rosters in all of the major conferences.

Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: bilsu on October 12, 2016, 02:56:22 PM
Sam will see loads of minutes at the 4. He's got the height and wing span.

Sadly I don't know that he is as aggressive as we need. But that added weight will surely help!
Not saying you were in this group, but there were plenty of posters last year at this time saying Henry would not be able to defend the 4 and would be consistently in foul trouble. Basically, the posters here have a lot of opinions that turn out to be not very accurate.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: MuMark on October 12, 2016, 03:23:50 PM
Not saying you were in this group, but there were plenty of posters last year at this time saying Henry would not be able to defend the 4 and would be consistently in foul trouble. Basically, the posters here have a lot of opinions that turn out to be not very accurate.

Yes you do have a lot of inaccurate opinions........
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: tower912 on October 12, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
Henry stayed out of foul trouble because he couldn't defend anyone, let alone the 4.   
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: T-Bone on October 12, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Henry stayed out of foul trouble because he couldn't defend anyone, let alone the 4.
He got the easy fouls though.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on October 12, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
Sam is smooth and disciplined.  He doesn't make mistakes.  He's a winner who will do what it takes to win.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: The Lens on October 12, 2016, 05:15:43 PM
Sam is smooth and disciplined.  He doesn't make mistakes.  He's a winner who will do what it takes to win.

You might be full of teal but having watched SPASH play, that was a heck of team.  It was like Men vs Boys, they just knew what to do.  It would not surprise me if mentally he was ahead of the curve relative to freshmen.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on October 12, 2016, 07:03:24 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 12, 2016, 07:19:50 PM
Not saying you were in this group, but there were plenty of posters last year at this time saying Henry would not be able to defend the 4 and would be consistently in foul trouble. Basically, the posters here have a lot of opinions that turn out to be not very accurate.

He couldn't defend the 4.
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: bilsu on October 12, 2016, 08:47:45 PM
He got the easy fouls though.
That was Fischer
Title: Re: Sam Hauser Has Considerable Upside Potential
Post by: naginiF on October 12, 2016, 09:51:34 PM
Sam is smooth and disciplined.  He doesn't make mistakes.  He's a winner who will do what it takes to win.
I hear he pours #tigerblood on his Cheerios
Title: Re: Hauser Upside To Program
Post by: Herman Cain on November 13, 2016, 08:55:06 PM
From everything I am hearing, the coaches believe Sam is going to a very important player for our program. In fact they are comparing him favorably to Henry, in that he can do so many things at a very high level , with a much better shot and more refined basketball IQ. It seems like Sam has built some good chemistry with the rest of the team and his game really helps bring out the best in some of the other guys. I am really looking forward to seeing how he does in the tougher non conference games.
Things are tracking well for Sam. I continue to believe he will eclipse Henry in terms of value to our team.