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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Herman Cain on August 01, 2016, 09:20:53 PM
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If a deep pocketed benefactor were willing to put up enough money to restore the Warrior name, how much would he/she be required to donate?
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How much is Valley Fields worth?
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The correct answer is nothing, because its not for sale.
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I believe a deep pocketed benefactor tried this and we rejected the offer
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As Dr. Evil would say ...
"ONE BEELLION DOLLARS!"
I'm not saying who might pay that, but he would call it a huuuge, beautiful deal.
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I believe a deep pocketed benefactor tried this and we rejected the offer
Of course, he offerred a hell of a lot less than the lowest amount allowed by Marquette Fan in New York as a poll answer. Surprise!
Geez, I wonder if the purpose of the poll is so that Marquette Fan in New York can decide how much he's going to offer? Don't be cheap due, just go to the 200 mil. That way the athletic department will have more than enough moula to buy out Wojo as a consequence of him not pursuing Kostas.
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So many here lament poor decisions by MU that make us look bad. The blowback of changing the name back to Warriors, which at MU is deeply entangled in native American imagery, would be immense and well deserved. The narrative would be... Marquette will do anything for money.
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They did it before to get the valley fields
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As Dr. Evil would say ...
"ONE BEELLION DOLLARS!"
I'm not saying who might pay that, but he would call it a huuuge, beautiful deal.
Um, that's not what he said.
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/1m.gif)
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11 years ago I thought there could be a chance for Warriors again. Then "Gold" happened (and the ensuing vote), and I realized it was never gonna' happen. So, I just still call them Warriors. That's about as good as it's gonna' get.
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At least give me Hilltoppers. Or Jumping Jez's.
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11 years ago I thought there could be a chance for Warriors again. Then "Gold" happened (and the ensuing vote), and I realized it was never gonna' happen. So, I just still call them Warriors. That's about as good as it's gonna' get.
Dwyane Wade single handedly got rid of that nickname...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrEl_r8xEE
Oops!
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11 years ago I thought there could be a chance for Warriors again. Then "Gold" happened (and the ensuing vote), and I realized it was never gonna' happen. So, I just still call them Warriors. That's about as good as it's gonna' get.
Same here. I once thought it may be possible, but that ship sailed years ago. Now, it's gonna have to do to know that other fans (and even some hoops announcers) still think of the team as Warriors.
Let's go Warriors!
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Heck, this same thread happened years ago. Been there, done that.
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So many here lament poor decisions by MU that make us look bad. The blowback of changing the name back to Warriors, which at MU is deeply entangled in native American imagery, would be immense and well deserved. The narrative would be... Marquette will do anything for money.
While I think such a transition could be handled successfully, that would require an organization with a skill set that MU clearly doesn't possess, so alas I believe you are correct.
It's funny that they would be lambasted for changing back sans imagery because they took money, yet the original change was prompted by a secret exchange of money and assets.
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While I think such a transition could be handled successfully, that would require an organization with a skill set that MU clearly doesn't possess, so alas I believe you are correct.
It's funny that they would be lambasted for changing back sans imagery because they took money, yet the original change was prompted by a secret exchange of money and assets.
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Why do teams need nicknames or mascots at all?
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Gang, certain things are constants:
1) It's cold in Milwaukee in the wintertime.
2) We're not an independent anymore
3) Al should be up for canonization (at least among us).
4) Crean and the Hillbilly will always be disliked.
5) The Warrior has gone to the big pow wow in the sky.
Face it, the Warrior is NOT coming back. Marquette is not for sale, at least not at a price any of us could ever imagine.
The Warrior decision was a bad one. But the demographics are working against it. There are almost as many living graduates who were graduated from Marquette as the Golden Eagles as there are Warriors.
Not closing Wisconsin Avenue and beheading the Warrior are Father DeUllio's legacies to the university. Thanks Padre! NOT!
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Why not the Warriors. We can use ancient Hittite dress for the mascot. All the Hittites are dead so there will be no blow back
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Gang, certain things are constants:
1) It's cold in Milwaukee in the wintertime.
2) We're not an independent anymore
3) Al should be up for canonization (at least among us).
4) Crean and the Hillbilly will always be disliked.
5) The Warrior has gone to the big pow wow in the sky.
Face it, the Warrior is NOT coming back. Marquette is not for sale, at least not at a price any of us could ever imagine.
The Warrior decision was a bad one. But the demographics are working against it. There are almost as many living graduates who were graduated from Marquette as the Golden Eagles as there are Warriors.
Not closing Wisconsin Avenue and beheading the Warrior are Father DeUllio's legacies to the university. Thanks Padre! NOT!
Not closing Wisconsin Avenue was one of the 4 great mistakes of Marquette.
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They tried to close WI Ave. It was the city that nixed the closing. I interviewed for a job at Marquette at the time and even saw the drawings.
Honestly I don't think it was a big deal in the long run.
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Not closing Wisconsin Avenue was one of the 4 great mistakes of Marquette.
Not sure that is anywhere near as easy (then or now) as you imply.
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been an MU fan my whole life...i'm 33...could not care less what their mascot is....have always referred to them as marquette. the generation that cares is aging (sorry, dad).
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Not closing Wisconsin Avenue was one of the 4 great mistakes of Marquette.
What are the other three? We can bring them to the Fan Advisory Council...I hear that is where we get to air our grievances.
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Why do teams need nicknames or mascots at all?
+1
Just be Marquette and call it a day.
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What are the other three? We can bring them to the Fan Advisory Council...I hear that is where we get to air our grievances.
Shouldn't that been done here?
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What are the other three? We can bring them to the Fan Advisory Council...I hear that is where we get to air our grievances.
1. Giving Up Football Program
2. Giving Up Medical School
3. Not Closing Wisconsin Avenue
4. Giving up Warrior Name
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Closing Wisconsin Avenue would have been terrible. Worrying that a cop car or a witness could drive by at any time is a great deterrent to crime. I honestly don't see any advantage to doing it other than aesthetics.
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Not to mention that MU's idea was to relocate Wisconsin down to Clybourn by using basically the entire block bordered by Wisconsin, 17th and 18th. That wouldn't have been very feasible.
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1. Giving Up Football Program
2. Giving Up Medical School
3. Not Closing Wisconsin Avenue
4. Giving up Warrior Name
1. Couldn't disagree more
2. Couldn't agree more
3. Not MUs fault
4. Agreed with the caveat that all native imagery be dropped, fans be discouraged from using native imagery, and an apology was given for Willie Wampum and other past transgressions.
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Very soon there will be more Golden Eagle alumni than Warrior alumni.
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We are all Warrior alum.
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We are all Warrior alum.
Here, here.
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Not to mention that MU's idea was to relocate Wisconsin down to Clybourn by using basically the entire block bordered by Wisconsin, 17th and 18th. That wouldn't have been very feasible.
Correct.
Let's rather look at Marquette's outstanding contribution to the 11th Street bypass (it was actually our idea) that created 'the wiggle' and the 11th street ped mall. BTW, same thing will be happening on 18th between WI and Wells pursuant to new res hall development.
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Um, that's not what he said.
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/1m.gif)
chickadee, I thought he updated it in a later movie ... and he did ... but a quick look on the Googles reveals he upped it to 100 billion.
So either way, I'm wrong. Again.
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What are the other three? We can bring them to the Fan Advisory Council...I hear that is where we get to air our grievances.
1. Axing the Warriors
2. Hiring Bob Dukiet
3. Messin' with happy
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1. Axing the Warriors
2. Hiring Bob Dukiet
3. Messin' with happy
1. Ending grill concerts
2. Ending block party
3. Disco on campus
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I don't understand why there isn't a pedestrian bridge going over Wisconsin Ave by the library and on 16th, kind of like in Las Vegas. I figured that would help with students crossing the street and let traffic flow a little better. You can even put "Marquette University" on them.
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How much is Valley Fields worth?
Why the teal?
I don't think title of Valley Field would necessarily revert to Pottawatomie, but there would be some sort of compensation and/or liquidated damages involved... I have no clue what that might even be. That could be Dr. Evil territory, perhaps.
Nevertheless, whatever cost would be necessary to make Pottawatomie whole while retaining Valley Fields is probably a rounding error compared to what it would take to capture MU's attention. The only way you'd prevent a revolt from the faculty/administration would be to endow enough scholarships directed towards Native Americans to bring their demos up to well over-represented levels (according to Wikipedia, MU is currently 0.3% compared to the US population of 0.9%, so that's a couple hundred scholarships right there). In addition, you'd probably have to fully endow the athletic department (another 20-30 schollies), and probably a curriculum on Native American history (3-4 professors). And that's just the minimum to get to the bargaining table.
Given MU's current "fully endowed" benchmarks of $600k for students and $1M for professors, my guess is we're talking an entry fee of upwards of $150M, which would probably end up around $200-250M at the end of the day.
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Very soon there will be more Golden Eagle alumni than Warrior alumni.
I like the old TallTitan34 avatar. Titan, would you mind re-posting that?
I would go for "Marquette Warriors" using the Golden Eagle mascot. You honor both parts of the tradition, and immediately replace the Indian imagery. Everybody's happy. Or put another way, everybody's a little unhappy.
Never give up hope.
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I don't understand why there isn't a pedestrian bridge going over Wisconsin Ave by the library and on 16th, kind of like in Las Vegas. I figured that would help with students crossing the street and let traffic flow a little better. You can even put "Marquette University" on them.
Because no one would use it. Wisconsin Avenue isn't *that* busy.
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Because no one would use it. Wisconsin Avenue isn't *that* busy.
Would be the world's worst bridge.
Now if you connected Raynor to another library esque building across Wisconsin, that would get used. Especially during winter.
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chickadee, I thought he updated it in a later movie ... and he did ... but a quick look on the Googles reveals he upped it to 100 billion.
So either way, I'm wrong. Again.
Couldn't find a decent GIF for the 100 Billion quote, so I posted the other one instead. But here is a video clip:
https://www.youtube.com/v/cf7uJDhVZIE
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I don't understand why there isn't a pedestrian bridge going over Wisconsin Ave by the library and on 16th, kind of like in Las Vegas. I figured that would help with students crossing the street and let traffic flow a little better. You can even put "Marquette University" on them.
Believe it or not, a couple of years ago some parents called for a pedestrian bridge across Wisconsin because they didn't want their precious babies to get hit by cars when they were crossing it. It will never happen, for several reasons:
1. It would visually bisect the campus, which would not be flattering, aesthetics-wise.
2. You would have to make it wheelchair accessible, which means either installing a very expensive elevator on each end which would require constant maintenance, or having each end of the bridge start hundreds of feet back from the curb in order to make the slope gentle enough
3. Any student who doesn't have the common sense to look both ways before crossing Wisconsin Avenue is not going to go a half-block out of his way to use a pedestrian bridge.
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Believe it or not, a couple of years ago some parents called for a pedestrian bridge across Wisconsin because they didn't want their precious babies to get hit by cars when they were crossing it. It will never happen, for several reasons:
1. It would visually bisect the campus, which would not be flattering, aesthetics-wise.
2. You would have to make it wheelchair accessible, which means either installing a very expensive elevator on each end which would require constant maintenance, or having each end of the bridge start hundreds of feet back from the curb in order to make the slope gentle enough
3. Any student who doesn't have the common sense to look both ways before crossing Wisconsin Avenue is not going to go a half-block out of his way to use a pedestrian bridge.
Not always the pedestrian's fault.
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I hope we keep Golden Eagles
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Marquette Fan In NY
1. Giving Up Football Program
Unless we were in the BIG, there was no sense in keeping football. Vanderbilt and Northwestern can have crappy football teams because they get BIG or SEC revenue and they lend an air of class to both conferences. Same for Stanford, except they win in the Pac10. We were independent and it was doubtful from the gitgo that we would have been ever accepted into the BIG. We would have ended up in the Mid-America or Missouri Valley conferences.
2. Giving Up Medical School
I believe the reason they gave up the medical school at the time was the concern that Marquette's teaching of its religious values might have prevented the medical school from receiving large federal research grants.It was a different time in the 1960s.
3. Not Closing Wisconsin Avenue
Closing Wisconsin Avenue was a public relations problem. It was less about traffic flow (which dropped off drramatically after Interstate 94 was constructed) and more about the perception that Wisconsin Avenue was Milwaukee's main street -- and that Marquette was taking that away. The reality was and is that Wells and Clybourn Streets could have more than effectively handled the spillover.
4. Giving up Warrior Name
It may have been a HUGE mistake at the time but in the PC world that is the NCAA today, how far would we have been willing to go to keep it. Heck, the University of Illinois had to get rid of any reference to Chief Illiniwick. For us, Warriors referred to the Native Americans of the Northwoods and their aide and comfort to Father Marquette. You could do something PC to get past that problem but you not eliminate it, hence the reason for no longer being Warriors. For what it is worth, getting rid of the Warrior name stunk, but eventually we were going to have to, or make an Al-like stand against the NCAA.
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1. Axing the Warriors
2. Hiring Bob Dukiet
3. Messin' with happy
Based on what I read in here, I'd add these:
1) Going cheap in the 1980s and not hiring Denny Crum when they allegedly had the chance in 1977.
2) Dukiet is absolutely right -- may be the biggest single mistake they ever made.
3) He was going to find a way to be a victim no matter what! We aren't UNLV and if he had stayed, we would have been! Maybe we should call him Hillbilly Tarkanian.
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Not always the pedestrian's fault.
A pedestrian who crosses when and where he is supposed to and verifies that conditions are safe before proceeding almost never gets hit by a vehicle.
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Golden Avalanche 200 million; Warriors, priceless.
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1. Giving Up Football Program
2. Giving Up Medical School
3. Not Closing Wisconsin Avenue
4. Giving up Warrior Name
Mistakes?
1. Was bankrupting the Athletic Department.
2. Would have bankrupted the University.
3. Would have bankrupted the University.
4. Didn't have to happen, if MU committed to a an alternate to Native American imagry.
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Correct.
Let's rather look at Marquette's outstanding contribution to the 11th Street bypass (it was actually our idea) that created 'the wiggle' and the 11th street ped mall. BTW, same thing will be happening on 18th between WI and Wells pursuant to new res hall development.
Wasn't the original interchange plan to knock tower down?
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Not always the pedestrian's fault.
No crap--can't tell you how many times I've seen drivers not stop, not sure what to do, one driver stops one doesn't, or slamming of the brakes.
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Mistakes?
1. Was bankrupting the Athletic Department.
2. Would have bankrupted the University.
3. Would have bankrupted the University.
4. Didn't have to happen, if MU committed to a an alternate to Native American imagry.
1. Disagree with this analysis
2. Disagree with this analysis
3. Disagree with this analysis
3. I agree with this analysis.
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Wasn't the original interchange plan to knock tower down?
You can knock me down, but I will just get back up.
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I like the old TallTitan34 avatar. Titan, would you mind re-posting that?
I would go for "Marquette Warriors" using the Golden Eagle mascot. You honor both parts of the tradition, and immediately replace the Indian imagery. Everybody's happy. Or put another way, everybody's a little unhappy.
Never give up hope.
This is what I would like them to do as well. Warrior name, eagle mascot.
Here is the logo for you Henry:
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Last night TWC's WI sports channel replayed the 1994 MU-Kentucky game. I was relishing in the fact that they were referring to the Warriors the whole game, while beating KU as well.
Then, during the last minute, Vern Lundquist kicked me in the gut when he said, something about "the Warriors...which, by the way, they won't be called after this season". Ripped open the scab.
Side note, Jim Burr reffed the game and had at least one point where he pulled aside another ref and had a 20 second conversation, then when back to his position with no explanation to anyone. I didn't realize that was always his thing, even when he had darker hair.
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I don't understand why people just didn't vote for Hilltoppers back when they called for a vote. I actually really like that nickname.
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I don't understand why people just didn't vote for Hilltoppers back when they called for a vote. I actually really like that nickname.
People found it insulting that they would take a vote on a name change and not include the Warriors. But I agree, Hilltoppers is a good name. It's not the Warriors, but it's certainly better than the Gold/Golden Eagles. As is the Jumping Jesuits.
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I don't understand why people just didn't vote for Hilltoppers back when they called for a vote. I actually really like that nickname.
I don't think it was ever a real vote. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks they picked the name that finished last in voting so people would beg just to get the Golden Eagles back.
I actually didn't mind Gold as a name. Its unique. Would have preferred Hilltoppers or Jumping Jesuits though. I like Golden Eagles but I just wish it was more unique. Way too many schools that use our mascot.
Of course, wish we could have gone back to the Warriors. Loved the idea someone had about using Joan of Arc as the mascot. Lot of history and campus connections in that idea. But I understand why the University felt like they couldn't.
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I don't understand why people just didn't vote for Hilltoppers back when they called for a vote. I actually really like that nickname.
Vote split 3 ways....lot of alums wrote in Warriors even though it explicitly said it wouldn't be counted leaving (probably mostly the "young") alumni to vote for no change and the rest to vote Hilltoppers with a few scattered "others".
If MU had been smart(no one has ever accused them of that) they would have run the vote in such a way that alumni could protest for Warriors but still get a secondary choice...in that scenario I have little doubt that Hilltoppers win. By doing that, it would have blunted a ton of future angst because while warriors wouldn't come back there would be a path to move forward together. Oh well.
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Wasn't the original interchange plan to knock tower down?
I don't believe so. The original plan had huge traffic counts going down the old 11th Street. Recall that there had been no on ramp to I-94 (either direction) as part of the old interchange. When that was appropriately included in the proposed layout, it was clear that local traffic counts would skyrocket at 11th & WI.
Dr. Peters served directly on the Marquette Interchange commission. I don't know who exactly came up with the cantilevered configuration that was ultimately developed (note that 11th now 'hangs' in the air over the highway below) but Marquette was absolutely insistent that it be created once the engineering proved that it was feasible. Other than cost, I don't think anyone on the commission disagreed. It's actually an excellent design.
Plans for 18th are similar in terms of the creation of a dedicated driveway with retractable pillars to be lowered for vehicle access in an emergency and at move in/out. I have been told 12th is NEVER a candidate for reconfiguration as it serves as a primary route to the Mt. Sinai emergency room. I believe, but am not certain, that 13th is squarely in the maybe someday camp and they still need something better for Shamu now that the new Jes Res is complete.
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I don't think it was ever a real vote. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks they picked the name that finished last in voting so people would beg just to get the Golden Eagles back.
I actually didn't mind Gold as a name. Its unique. Would have preferred Hilltoppers or Jumping Jesuits though. I like Golden Eagles but I just wish it was more unique. Way too many schools that use our mascot.
I think you're confusing two events. Gold came about from the BOT after $2MM "Warriors" offer, and a subsequent survey which indicated alumni didn't like GE's. The vote came about after Gold flopped, and the BOT still needed a name.
But yes, after the BOT said Warriors wasn't an option, I don't think the vote really mattered much.
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I think you're confusing two events. Gold came about from the BOT after $2MM "Warriors" offer, and a subsequent survey which indicated alumni didn't like GE's. The vote came about after Gold flopped, and the BOT still needed a name.
But yes, after the BOT said Warriors wasn't an option, I don't think the vote really mattered much.
Correct.
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But yes, after the BOT said Warriors wasn't an option, I don't think the vote really mattered much.
I seem to remember there was a 2-stage process to get all the back to where we started...to me the result said that people didn't care what we were called if we couldn't be the Warriors.
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I seem to remember there was a 2-stage process to get all the back to where we started...to me the result said that people didn't care what we were called if we couldn't be the Warriors.
It was a two stage process. Golden Eagles and Hilltoppers were the final two.
Here is a summary.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/news/story?id=2097051
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I think you're confusing two events. Gold came about from the BOT after $2MM "Warriors" offer, and a subsequent survey which indicated alumni didn't like GE's. The vote came about after Gold flopped, and the BOT still needed a name.
But yes, after the BOT said Warriors wasn't an option, I don't think the vote really mattered much.
Huh, my mistake. Vote happened before my time at Marquette. Also thought Gold was the poll result.
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It was a two stage process. Golden Eagles and Hilltoppers were the final two.
Here is a summary.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/news/story?id=2097051
My favorite quote
The school rejected the trustees' offer and this spring announced a switch from Golden Eagles to Gold, which was strongly opposed by students and alumni because they weren't consulted.
I think a more accurate description would be "...because they thought it was stupid"
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Money, the root of evil, what the Jesuits inspire us to be wary of, what to some of the oldest Americans was wampum. I remember Willie somewhat fondly but I come from newer American stock. Let's keep him in the more remote corners of Marquette history.
The Golden Eagle has landed and so it will stay.
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Money, the root of evil, what the Jesuits inspire us to be wary of, what to some of the oldest Americans was wampum. I remember Willie somewhat fondly but I come from newer American stock. Let's keep him in the more remote corners of Marquette history.
The Golden Eagle has landed and so it will stay.
Multiple things here:
-Except for maybe a few fringe nobody is advocating bring Warriors back with any Native American imagery let alone with Willie
-The Jesuits took money in the first place to change away from Warriors
-New American stock? what does this even mean in this context?
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My favorite quote
The school rejected the trustees' offer and this spring announced a switch from Golden Eagles to Gold, which was strongly opposed by students and alumni because they weren't consulted.
I think a more accurate description would be "...because they thought it was stupid"
Ya'll all know that there was one person on the BOT (who shall remain nameless) that pushed for Gold. The rest were mind numbed sheep.
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Based on what I read in here, I'd add these:
1) Going cheap in the 1980s and not hiring Denny Crum when they allegedly had the chance in 1977.
1st I've ever heard of this; anybody got more info on if this is actually true?
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Ya'll all know that there was one person on the BOT (who shall remain nameless) that pushed for Gold. The rest were mind numbed sheep.
(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/ee/ee16d4c7a19e8e9073fcb29c21e534dba3729ba4d36a60c0ffe7f0fbb451ae93.jpg)
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Plans for 18th are similar in terms of the creation of a dedicated driveway with retractable pillars to be lowered for vehicle access in an emergency and at move in/out.
Given that they just removed the retractable pillars by Carpenter and Cobeen last week, I suspect that these will not be installed on 18th Street.
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1st I've ever heard of this; anybody got more info on if this is actually true?
100% true....and they are a marketing genius...just ask them.
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100% true....and they are a marketing genius...just ask them.
I think eye was talking about hiring Denny Crum in 1977.
Curious what people didn't like about Gold. Was it that bad or was it that any name that wasn't Warriors going to be booed down? I personally didn't think it was good enough to warrant a mascot change, but I think it's a better mascot than Golden Eagles. We're what? One of 47 universities that have Golden Eagles as their mascot? Gold is at least unique.
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I think eye was talking about hiring Denny Crum in 1977.
Curious what people didn't like about Gold. Was it that bad or was it that any name that wasn't Warriors going to be booed down? I personally didn't think it was good enough to warrant a mascot change, but I think it's a better mascot than Golden Eagles. We're what? One of 47 universities that have Golden Eagles as their mascot? Gold is at least unique.
I think it just came out of nowhere and sounded really dumb. I still am not really a fan. I would have taken Golden Avalanche though. (I think I actually voted for that in the initial round.)
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Given that they just removed the retractable pillars by Carpenter and Cobeen last week, I suspect that these will not be installed on 18th Street.
Huh, news to me. Seems odd. I wonder if a different, more modern system might be going in.
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I think eye was talking about hiring Denny Crum in 1977.
Yes, I was wondering about Crum in 1977. I got quite a reaction when I stomped on a bag of Rold Gold pretzels into oblivion the day of that announcement. Scared the heck out of some girl 'til she understood what I was doing; at the same time three of my bodies were on the ground laughing.
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Yes, I was wondering about Crum in 1977. I got quite a reaction when I stomped on a bag of Rold Gold pretzels into oblivion the day of that announcement. Scared the heck out of some girl 'til she understood what I was doing; at the same time three of my bodies were on the ground laughing.
You have four+ bodies?!
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Bodies/buddies, tomato/tomahto.
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I think eye was talking about hiring Denny Crum in 1977.
Curious what people didn't like about Gold. Was it that bad or was it that any name that wasn't Warriors going to be booed down? I personally didn't think it was good enough to warrant a mascot change, but I think it's a better mascot than Golden Eagles. We're what? One of 47 universities that have Golden Eagles as their mascot? Gold is at least unique.
I think it was a combination of factors...passion for warriors, angst over not being consulted the first time and then turning around and doing the same thing all over again (pissed off both warrior and golden eagle fans), wasn't that original(Stanford, I think Syracuse changed right before us, might be one or two others) and it came from no where.
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I think it was a combination of factors...passion for warriors, angst over not being consulted the first time and then turning around and doing the same thing all over again (pissed off both warrior and golden eagle fans), wasn't that original(Stanford, I think Syracuse changed right before us, might be one or two others) and it came from no where.
And, most importantly, Dwyane Wade said no way in hell.
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It was a two stage process. Golden Eagles and Hilltoppers were the final two.
Here is a summary.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/news/story?id=2097051
Wasn't one of the choice Lightning? Maybe that was one of the first round choices?
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Wasn't one of the choice Lightning? Maybe that was one of the first round choices?
No that was when they changed from Warriors. The final vote was Lightning and Golden Eagles.
Really the entire nickname episode over the last 20 years has been one f*ck up after another.
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No that was when they changed from Warriors. The final vote was Lightning and Golden Eagles.
Really the entire nickname episode over the last 20 years has been one f*ck up after another.
Yep. If they would have just gone back to Hilltoppers in 1994 this issue would be over.
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Wasn't one of the choice Lightning? Maybe that was one of the first round choices?
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WqsxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CBMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5259%2C7978499
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https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WqsxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CBMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5259%2C7978499
Some mention of closing off Wisconsin avenue in the article as well.
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You have four+ bodies?!
Eye may speak with a very think Russian accent.
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Yep. If they would have just gone back to Hilltoppers in 1994 this issue would be over.
This.
It was so obvious and they screwed it up royally.
Oh well. All it is now is something for all of us oldsters to talk and/or whine about.