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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: warriorchick on July 28, 2016, 11:31:19 AM

Title: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: warriorchick on July 28, 2016, 11:31:19 AM


http://deadspin.com/hey-come-look-at-this-hockey-teams-logo-before-they-ap-1784447220
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: MU82 on July 28, 2016, 11:53:03 AM
That's wonderful.

Angry red face.

Tomahawk.

Feather.

Mohawk.

Checked almost all the boxes. I guess they couldn't somehow have made him look drunk, too.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 28, 2016, 11:54:04 AM
.....wow
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: warriorchick on July 28, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
That's wonderful.

Angry red face.

Tomahawk.

Feather.

Mohawk.

Checked almost all the boxes. I guess they couldn't somehow have made him look drunk, too.

Or holding a scalp.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: tower912 on July 28, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
Somebody here will make it their new avatar, which would lead to endless discussion if we still had a political board.    #Keepchicosjailed
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Post by: jsglow on July 28, 2016, 01:22:10 PM
Awesome.
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Post by: ecompt on July 28, 2016, 01:22:56 PM
How long before they become the Gold?
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Post by: Benny B on July 28, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
How long before Bleuteaux is driving the Zamboni between periods?
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Post by: Pakuni on July 28, 2016, 02:16:43 PM
My friend's cousin knows a guy who knows a Native American who says he's honored by that logo.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: tower912 on July 28, 2016, 04:23:38 PM
I'm shocked, shocked that this thread will be locked. 
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Post by: Galway Eagle on July 28, 2016, 05:30:44 PM
-- REDACTED --

Well that's Step one to locking a thread.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: rocky_warrior on July 28, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
Well that's Step one to locking a thread.

And why WE can't have nice things.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: forgetful on July 28, 2016, 05:47:48 PM
My friend's cousin knows a guy who knows a Native American who says he's honored by that logo.

I think my uncle's, brother-in-laws neighbor knows the same guy.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: tower912 on July 28, 2016, 06:05:49 PM
When I was hanging out with (name drop), working on (name drop) I saw this thing on the internet that reinforced by bias so it must be true. 
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on July 28, 2016, 06:07:29 PM
When I was hanging out with (name drop), working on (name drop) I saw this thing on the internet that reinforced by bias so it must be true.

Chicos?
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 29, 2016, 02:31:07 AM
Not now Kato, you fool
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: GooooMarquette on July 29, 2016, 11:36:24 AM
Not now Kato, you fool

Awesome movies!
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: Skitch on July 29, 2016, 11:33:05 PM
Well that was quick

http://m.thn.com/blog/lake-erie-warriors-rebrand-become-gulls-after-racist-logo-causes-uproar/
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: tower912 on July 29, 2016, 11:48:36 PM
Shocking.   
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 30, 2016, 05:45:22 AM
Well that was quick

http://m.thn.com/blog/lake-erie-warriors-rebrand-become-gulls-after-racist-logo-causes-uproar/

Just when I thought we wee starting to turn the corner...
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: MattyWarrior on July 30, 2016, 06:26:06 AM
A warrior I once was, but they took it away.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: Eye on July 30, 2016, 06:47:20 AM
How long before they become the Gold?

Gulls, Gold, Golden Eagles, all about the same thing.
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Post by: Dawson Rental on July 30, 2016, 09:08:03 AM
Unfortunately this incident reinforces the idea that Warriors is just PC code for Indians (or Redskins).
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Post by: willie warrior on July 30, 2016, 12:30:06 PM
Gulls, Gold, Golden Eagles, all about the same thing.
How about a compromise logo/mascot: The Golden Warriors? That would be PC. Gold implies heavenly. The heavenly Warriors.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 30, 2016, 11:57:59 PM
How about a compromise logo/mascot: The Golden Warriors? That would be PC. Gold implies heavenly. The heavenly Warriors.

But heaven is surely going to offend the wicken, EY'na?
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Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on July 31, 2016, 12:06:27 AM
How about a compromise logo/mascot: The Golden Warriors? That would be PC. Gold implies heavenly. The heavenly Warriors.

I approve.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on July 31, 2016, 11:24:45 AM
Unfortunately this incident reinforces the idea that Warriors is just PC code for Indians (or Redskins).
PC police hijack a great mascot name
Forgetting that people acquire mascots to be proud of. not mock.
the chronically aggrieved
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on July 31, 2016, 12:20:22 PM
PC police hijack a great mascot name
Forgetting that people acquire mascots to be proud of. not mock.
the chronically aggrieved

So MU was looking to honor Native Americans when the students changed its mascot/ name in 1954 to jump on the popularity of the NA theme mascots with the transfer of the Boston Braves to Milwaukee?

You can't throw around PC like it's not rooted in history, imagery, etc - including our own which includes a silly beginning and Willie Wampum.

For the record I wouldn't be one that would have been outraged regardless of the decision made at MU but respect and accept Wilds ultimate conclusion. 
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 31, 2016, 01:26:46 PM
So MU was looking to honor Indians when the students changed its mascot/ name in 1954 to jump on the popularity of the Indian theme mascots with the transfer of the Boston Braves to Milwaukee?

You can't throw around PC like it's not rooted in history, imagery, etc - including our own which includes a silly beginning and Willie Wampum.

For the record I wouldn't be one that would have been outraged regardless of the decision made at MU but respect and accept Wilds ultimate conclusion.

You absolutely have the right to agree with  father wilde's decision as the many of us have to continues to be "let down", disappointed and taken for fools.  How do you may ask?  If a fair vote were taken, Warriors would have beaten any other chirade by a bunch.  Oh well, and life goes on, but the pic world is going to kill us if it's not reigned in...in other news, how 'bout dem packas, 'ey?
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 31, 2016, 03:11:27 PM
PC police hijack a great mascot name
Forgetting that people acquire mascots to be proud of. not mock.
the chronically aggrieved

Intent doesn't matter. Only impact.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: GGGG on August 01, 2016, 04:23:40 PM
Intent doesn't matter. Only impact.


In fact I would argue that Marquette's sincere attempt to be respectful with Native imagery only made the problem worse in the long run.  If they had dropped all Native imagery when they dropped Willie Wampum in 1971, my educated guess is that they would still be Warriors today. 
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: Herman Cain on August 01, 2016, 06:00:43 PM

In fact I would argue that Marquette's sincere attempt to be respectful with Native imagery only made the problem worse in the long run.  If they had dropped all Native imagery when they dropped Willie Wampum in 1971, my educated guess is that they would still be Warriors today.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 01, 2016, 08:58:17 PM

In fact I would argue that Marquette's sincere attempt to be respectful with Native imagery only made the problem worse in the long run.  If they had dropped all Native imagery when they dropped Willie Wampum in 1971, my educated guess is that they would still be Warriors today.

Right on!
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: MU82 on August 01, 2016, 11:00:00 PM

In fact I would argue that Marquette's sincere attempt to be respectful with Native imagery only made the problem worse in the long run.  If they had dropped all Native imagery when they dropped Willie Wampum in 1971, my educated guess is that they would still be Warriors today.

Yep. Drop the Indian imagery completely, choose a symbol more like the one the G.S. Warriors have now, discourage the war chants and stuff during games ... and we're probably still the Warriors.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: MerrittsMustache on August 02, 2016, 08:07:50 AM

In fact I would argue that Marquette's sincere attempt to be respectful with Native imagery only made the problem worse in the long run.  If they had dropped all Native imagery when they dropped Willie Wampum in 1971, my educated guess is that they would still be Warriors today.

Yep. Drop the Indian imagery completely, choose a symbol more like the one the G.S. Warriors have now, discourage the war chants and stuff during games ... and we're probably still the Warriors.

It's been done before...
(http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/149733/7041757/1274636805410/warriors2.jpg?token=fVLdTJElew5nGe2OajmF0OySkWc%3D)

(http://www.pgecurrents.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/300x200_golden_state_warriors.jpg)

Not sure a Hoan Bridge logo would have the same effect, but you get the idea  ;)

Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2016, 08:59:26 AM
(http://www.pgecurrents.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/300x200_golden_state_warriors.jpg)

Not sure a Hoan Bridge logo would have the same effect, but you get the idea  ;)

Why not?  GS used the 6th Street Viaduct on their logo.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: Blackhat on August 02, 2016, 10:22:25 AM
Yeah but what does Donald Trump think about this?
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: warriorchick on August 02, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
It's been done before...
(http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/149733/7041757/1274636805410/warriors2.jpg?token=fVLdTJElew5nGe2OajmF0OySkWc%3D)

(http://www.pgecurrents.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/300x200_golden_state_warriors.jpg)

Not sure a Hoan Bridge logo would have the same effect, but you get the idea  ;)

Note that the year GS changed its logo away from the Native American imagery is the year we only got rid of Willie Wampum and kept everything else.  It's too late now.
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 02, 2016, 01:13:08 PM
Yep. Drop the Indian imagery completely, choose a symbol more like the one the G.S. Warriors have now, discourage the war chants and stuff during games ... and we're probably still the Warriors.

yeah, just like the seminoles and the atlanta braves and...wait, i guess the tomahawk chop can be considered as universal thingy, AyN'a?
Title: Re: This is why we can't have nice things.
Post by: MU82 on August 02, 2016, 02:15:02 PM
yeah, just like the seminoles and the atlanta braves and...wait, i guess the tomahawk chop can be considered as universal thingy, AyN'a?

Eh ... I'm not even gonna bother going down this road again.