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Title: Kostas off the board
Post by: MuMark on June 23, 2016, 04:37:08 PM
Not sure if a typo or if 2017 is correct

https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/746091641446924288

Best of luck to him in the A 10
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: barfolomew on June 23, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Not sure if a typo or if 2017 is correct

https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/746091641446924288

Best of luck to him in the A 10

Good luck, young man.
Your signing means we won't be hearing your name brought up on this board again.
 
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 23, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Here's the latest:


Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels  · 2m2 minutes ago   Saragossa, Spain   

Correction to the Kostas Antetokounmpo news. He's a member of the 2016 class. Doesn't matter the class. Great get regardless.


Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels  · 12m12 minutes ago   Saragossa, Spain   

Archie Miller with a major coup in Kostas Antetokounmpo. Top 100 prospect. 6-10 with a massive wingspan. Athletic, mobile & major upside.


Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: KampusFoods on June 23, 2016, 04:46:14 PM
Should see plenty of him when Dayton joins the Big East, ehna?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: MuMark on June 23, 2016, 05:00:49 PM
Interesting case of the "gurus" liking him more then college coaches.

Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: GGGG on June 23, 2016, 05:25:04 PM
Kostas Durant to Dayton?  The mind reels...
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on June 23, 2016, 05:27:39 PM
Is a well-being check in order for Marquette Fan in NY?  He's not going to like this.....
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: jsglow on June 23, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
Good for Kostas.  Happy for him.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on June 23, 2016, 05:31:56 PM
Surprised
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: tower912 on June 23, 2016, 05:54:40 PM
They decided to take a Flyer on him.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: wadesworld on June 23, 2016, 06:06:03 PM
They decided to take a Flyer on him.

Zing!
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: warriorchick on June 23, 2016, 06:30:24 PM
They decided to take a Flyer on him.

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Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Goose on June 23, 2016, 07:11:05 PM
I think not taking a chance him was a mistake. He was a low risk gamble and probably has some real upside. Hope the kid knocks it out of the park and wish him good luck.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 23, 2016, 07:39:00 PM
I think not taking a chance him was a mistake. He was a low risk gamble and probably has some real upside. Hope the kid knocks it out of the park and wish him good luck.
t

We don't need any more guards.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 23, 2016, 08:56:30 PM
I think not taking a chance him was a mistake. He was a low risk gamble and probably has some real upside. Hope the kid knocks it out of the park and wish him good luck.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 24, 2016, 09:03:11 AM
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/kostas.96687/
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: barfolomew on June 24, 2016, 11:02:02 AM
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/kostas.96687/



rasrar said: ↑
Just saw on Evan Daniels twitter that he just verbally committed to Dayton.

Mathboy:
Didn't even know they were in the running.
Was Daniels even a Purdue target? I don't think I have heard his name before.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: KampusFoods on June 24, 2016, 11:20:51 AM


rasrar said: ↑
Just saw on Evan Daniels twitter that he just verbally committed to Dayton.

Mathboy:
Didn't even know they were in the running.
Was Daniels even a Purdue target? I don't think I have heard his name before.

I got a serious laugh out of that one.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 24, 2016, 11:23:50 AM


rasrar said: ↑
Just saw on Evan Daniels twitter that he just verbally committed to Dayton.

Mathboy:
Didn't even know they were in the running.
Was Daniels even a Purdue target? I don't think I have heard his name before.

The surprising thing is no one gives him a hard time for it. We woulda jumped all over that guy
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Newsdreams on June 24, 2016, 11:32:57 AM


rasrar said: ↑
Just saw on Evan Daniels twitter that he just verbally committed to Dayton.

Mathboy:
Didn't even know they were in the running.
Was Daniels even a Purdue target? I don't think I have heard his name before.
Mathboy forgot to use teal
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 24, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Would have been better than an empty chair.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 24, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Get Dayton in the Big East now!!!!










For all of you who needed me to put this in teal.  Shame on you.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: NickelDimer on June 24, 2016, 12:03:43 PM
The surprising thing is no one gives him a hard time for it. We woulda jumped all over that guy

That ish woulda been twitter tracked and meme tourney'd real quick
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Jay Bee on June 24, 2016, 12:13:49 PM
cristal bowel nailed this one, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 24, 2016, 01:07:58 PM
I think not taking a chance him was a mistake. He was a low risk gamble and probably has some real upside. Hope the kid knocks it out of the park and wish him good luck.

exactly my feelings all along-glad to know i'm not totally.......crazy
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 25, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
exactly my feelings all along-glad to know i'm not totally.......crazy
Always go with your own beliefs. Don't let peer pressure or bullying influencing your thought process. Dayton considers Kostas one of their most exciting recruits of the Archie Miller era. 

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/sports/college-basketball/kostas-antetokounmpo-picked-dayton-flyers-three-da/nrm8G/
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 25, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
Always go with your own beliefs. Don't let peer pressure or bullying influencing your thought process. Dayton considers Kostas one of their most exciting recruits of the Archie Miller era. 

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/sports/college-basketball/kostas-antetokounmpo-picked-dayton-flyers-three-da/nrm8G/

That has everything to do with his 247 ranking and nothing to do with his talent.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 25, 2016, 09:35:05 PM
That has everything to do with his 247 ranking and nothing to do with his talent.
Archie Miller coaching record:

2011-12    Dayton       20–13   9–7   5th   NIT First Round
2012–13   Dayton   17–14   7–9   11th   
2013–14   Dayton   26–11   10–6   T–5th   NCAA Elite Eight
2014–15   Dayton   27–9          13–5   T–2nd   CAA  32
2015–16   Dayton   25–8           14–4   T–1st        NCAA Round of 64
Dayton:   115–55 (.676)   53–31 (.631)   
Total:   115–55 (.676)   

I think Archie is a pretty good judge of  talent.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: bilsu on June 25, 2016, 09:45:29 PM
exactly my feelings all along-glad to know i'm not totally.......crazy
Everyone on this board is crazy.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: wadesworld on June 25, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
Archie Miller coaching record:

2011-12    Dayton       20–13   9–7   5th   NIT First Round
2012–13   Dayton   17–14   7–9   11th   
2013–14   Dayton   26–11   10–6   T–5th   NCAA Elite Eight
2014–15   Dayton   27–9          13–5   T–2nd   CAA  32
2015–16   Dayton   25–8           14–4   T–1st        NCAA Round of 64
Dayton:   115–55 (.676)   53–31 (.631)   
Total:   115–55 (.676)   

I think Archie is a pretty good judge of  talent.

He's coached in the A10 his entire career.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 25, 2016, 10:21:16 PM
Archie Miller coaching record:

2011-12    Dayton       20–13   9–7   5th   NIT First Round
2012–13   Dayton   17–14   7–9   11th   
2013–14   Dayton   26–11   10–6   T–5th   NCAA Elite Eight
2014–15   Dayton   27–9          13–5   T–2nd   CAA  32
2015–16   Dayton   25–8           14–4   T–1st        NCAA Round of 64
Dayton:   115–55 (.676)   53–31 (.631)   
Total:   115–55 (.676)   

I think Archie is a pretty good judge of  talent.

It's late March and he had two open schollies. He took a flyer on kid with a famous last name. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won't. From what I've heard, I'm not convinced he will actually make it to campus. Also, I read the article you posted, it said nothing about Kostas being one of his most exciting recruits. It said he was one of the highest rated. Which again goes back to the last name.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 25, 2016, 10:46:15 PM
It's late March and he had two open schollies. He took a flyer on kid with a famous last name. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won't. From what I've heard, I'm not convinced he will actually make it to campus. Also, I read the article you posted, it said nothing about Kostas being one of his most exciting recruits. It said he was one of the highest rated. Which again goes back to the last name.

Other commentary on Kostas

http://www.deepishthoughts.com/kostas-antetokounmpo-will-enroll-dayton/

Mr. Wilson, who does this for a living,  seems to think he has pretty good talent.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: wadesworld on June 25, 2016, 10:56:06 PM
Other commentary on Kostas

http://www.deepishthoughts.com/kostas-antetokounmpo-will-enroll-dayton/

Mr. Wilson, who does this for a living,  seems to think he has pretty good talent.

He has no motivation to hype the kid up either...

The kid was an average guy on a Division 4 WIAA team as a 6'11" senior. Marquette has never had any interest yet every time Kostas is brought up on the internet you're here posting it in the Al. Your obsession is odd.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 25, 2016, 11:20:48 PM
Other commentary on Kostas

http://www.deepishthoughts.com/kostas-antetokounmpo-will-enroll-dayton/

Mr. Wilson, who does this for a living,  seems to think he has pretty good talent.

You're telling me an aau coach hyped up a kid on his team? Really?

If he didn't have a famous last name no one would have any idea who he was. He didn't even start for his WIAA D4 team until this year despite having a foot on almost everyone else. Without his brother he'd be a mid major prospect at best, more likely a low major
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 25, 2016, 11:55:58 PM
You're telling me an aau coach hyped up a kid on his team? Really?

If he didn't have a famous last name no one would have any idea who he was. He didn't even start for his WIAA D4 team until this year despite having a foot on almost everyone else. Without his brother he'd be a mid major prospect at best, more likely a low major
Mr. Wilson has zero incentive to over hype a kid. He is running a successful  business and his stock in trade is giving honest assessments . I trust Mr. Wilson's judgement.

Florida , which the last time I looked, is a pretty good program, also offered Kostas.

The "Kostas has no talent" argument has been decided in the favor of " he has talent".

You seem to know a lot about recruiting. The very first thing all coaches look at in every sport is the athletes  blood lines. Every college sports questionnaire a kids fill out has a spot for siblings.  The fact that his two older brothers are complete studs is only a positive. There is zero negative in that.

Do You think it hurt Wes Matthews that his dad was Wes Matthews and his mom was an incredible track athlete?

I am sure Arizona was delighted that Luke Waltons dad was Bill Walton.

In all likelihood we are going to offer Zaire Wade. Is that a bad thing?

Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 26, 2016, 12:16:51 AM
Wait, I think I figured it out. Marquette Fan in NY is actually UDPride. This was all just a really long con set up to make Marquette fans look like terrible people to the Kostas camp so Dayton could get him all to themselves. Damn you UDPride.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 26, 2016, 01:47:40 AM
Mr. Wilson has zero incentive to over hype a kid. He is running a successful  business and his stock in trade is giving honest assessments . I trust Mr. Wilson's judgement.

Florida , which the last time I looked, is a pretty good program, also offered Kostas.

The "Kostas has no talent" argument has been decided in the favor of " he has talent".

You seem to know a lot about recruiting. The very first thing all coaches look at in every sport is the athletes  blood lines. Every college sports questionnaire a kids fill out has a spot for siblings.  The fact that his two older brothers are complete studs is only a positive. There is zero negative in that.

Do You think it hurt Wes Matthews that his dad was Wes Matthews and his mom was an incredible track athlete?

I am sure Arizona was delighted that Luke Waltons dad was Bill Walton.

In all likelihood we are going to offer Zaire Wade. Is that a bad thing?

Aau coaches have a ton of incentive to hype their kids. It's their job to get their players into quality programs. The better programs the kids go to, the better of a coach he's percieved as.

I'm not sure what argument you are trying to make with Wes. It's not a bad thing to have good bloodlines. But that and height are the only things Kostas has going for him.

I'm sure you know that an "offer" is worth the paper it's written on. It essentially means the school is kicking the tires. Yes Florida "offered." They also cooled on him and rescinded said "offer." As did Purdue, as did st. Johns, as did every other high major program who "offered" him.

If Kostas had talent, he wouldn't have come off the bench for a wiaa d4 team and struggled against the 6"1 kids defending him. He has a famous last name, height, and length but he's not very good at basketball. Maybe he will develop into one, you can teach basketball but not the things Kostas has. But from what I've heard, I'd be surprised if he actually plays long enough at Dayton to get to that point.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: brewcity77 on June 26, 2016, 02:47:31 AM
Wait, I think I figured it out. Marquette Fan in NY is actually UDPride. This was all just a really long con set up to make Marquette fans look like terrible people to the Kostas camp so Dayton could get him all to themselves. Damn you UDPride.

This may be the most logical thing posted on Scoop since February 21, 2015.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on June 26, 2016, 07:04:08 AM
The bad thing for Kostas is that Archie will be gone in the next year or two.  He's gets mentioned for a lot of coaching vacancies, his brother Sean is at Arizona and Archie will be in a major conference soon.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: GGGG on June 26, 2016, 08:27:33 AM
Mr. Wilson has zero incentive to over hype a kid. He is running a successful  business and his stock in trade is giving honest assessments . I trust Mr. Wilson's judgement.

Florida , which the last time I looked, is a pretty good program, also offered Kostas.

The "Kostas has no talent" argument has been decided in the favor of " he has talent".

You seem to know a lot about recruiting. The very first thing all coaches look at in every sport is the athletes  blood lines. Every college sports questionnaire a kids fill out has a spot for siblings.  The fact that his two older brothers are complete studs is only a positive. There is zero negative in that.

Do You think it hurt Wes Matthews that his dad was Wes Matthews and his mom was an incredible track athlete?

I am sure Arizona was delighted that Luke Waltons dad was Bill Walton.

In all likelihood we are going to offer Zaire Wade. Is that a bad thing?




1.  AAU coaches hype their players all the time.

2.  Coaches look at bloodlines, but they don't let that overwhelm good basketball judgement like fan boards do.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Jay Bee on June 26, 2016, 09:03:35 AM
Mr. Wilson has zero incentive to over hype a kid. He is running a successful  business and his stock in trade is giving honest assessments . I trust Mr. Wilson's judgement.

Florida , which the last time I looked, is a pretty good program, also offered Kostas.

The "Kostas has no talent" argument has been decided in the favor of " he has talent".

You seem to know a lot about recruiting. The very first thing all coaches look at in every sport is the athletes  blood lines. Every college sports questionnaire a kids fill out has a spot for siblings.  The fact that his two older brothers are complete studs is only a positive. There is zero negative in that.

Do You think it hurt Wes Matthews that his dad was Wes Matthews and his mom was an incredible track athlete?

I am sure Arizona was delighted that Luke Waltons dad was Bill Walton.

In all likelihood we are going to offer Zaire Wade. Is that a bad thing?

Florida - false.
Travel team coaches talking up a player publicly - the norm.
Zaire - "in all likelihood"?
Bloodlines - do you understand how many kids of athletes there are. You hear a lot about 'oh he's so and so's son' when they are very good, but most aren't. And, those that are good, many are good in a different way (i.e., have different games/styles)... physical attributes can be seen and measured. Mental aspects can be evaluated. Not sure "bloodlines" does anything more for you. Hey, Ellwood Ellenson is a senior who could come over and play immediately.. and plays a position of need, power forward. Rebounder, defender. Just what the doctor ordered. AND, his brother just got drafted in the first round of the NBA draft. You in????
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: GooooMarquette on June 26, 2016, 09:09:43 AM
Bloodlines.

Jeffrey and Marcus Jordan.

Need I say more?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 26, 2016, 10:37:56 AM
Mr. Wilson has zero incentive to over hype a kid. He is running a successful  business and his stock in trade is giving honest assessments . I trust Mr. Wilson's judgement.

Florida , which the last time I looked, is a pretty good program, also offered Kostas.

The "Kostas has no talent" argument has been decided in the favor of " he has talent".

You seem to know a lot about recruiting. The very first thing all coaches look at in every sport is the athletes  blood lines. Every college sports questionnaire a kids fill out has a spot for siblings.  The fact that his two older brothers are complete studs is only a positive. There is zero negative in that.

Do You think it hurt Wes Matthews that his dad was Wes Matthews and his mom was an incredible track athlete?

I am sure Arizona was delighted that Luke Waltons dad was Bill Walton.

In all likelihood we are going to offer Zaire Wade. Is that a bad thing?

It could be, if he turns out to be a medicore at best high schooler missing core HS classes with no solid offers through both the fall and spring signing periods who we offer simply because of his last name.

That won't be the case though, will it?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 26, 2016, 02:15:22 PM
Always go with your own beliefs. Don't let peer pressure or bullying influencing your thought process. Dayton considers Kostas one of their most exciting recruits of the Archie Miller era. 

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/sports/college-basketball/kostas-antetokounmpo-picked-dayton-flyers-three-da/nrm8G/

absolutely!  it's always good however,  that someone else see's the same thing.  are any of my beliefs based on facts?  nope.  just a hunch.  i see only upside.  no one is going to change my mind except kostas himself.  hope he hooks on with someone and gets a chance to grow
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 26, 2016, 10:24:21 PM
Some of the sentiment on the Dayton Board. They are obviously very excited about Kostas......

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I don't care what position he plays, I saw a player with NBA potential. He can move, dribble and finish. If he has heart and desire, he can be a special player. We usually don't get these kinds of players; tip of hat to coaching staff.
agreed to the staff i say

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I should add that I have always felt that the game atmosphere was UD's biggest selling point,guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: wadesworld on June 26, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
Some of the sentiment on the Dayton Board. They are obviously very excited about Kostas......

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I don't care what position he plays, I saw a player with NBA potential. He can move, dribble and finish. If he has heart and desire, he can be a special player. We usually don't get these kinds of players; tip of hat to coaching staff.
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I should add that I have always felt that the game atmosphere was UD's biggest selling point,guess I was wrong.


Care to share what Fordham fans are saying about their 3rd best recruit as well or...?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 26, 2016, 10:45:46 PM
Care to share what Fordham fans are saying about their 3rd best recruit as well or...?
Fordham did not recruit Kostas. Dayton did. Dayton is celebrating. I believe this will go down as one of the big missed opportunities of the Wojo era.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 26, 2016, 11:49:49 PM
Fordham did recruit Kostas. Dayton did. Dayton is celebrating. I believe this will go down as one of the big missed opportunities of the Wojo era.

Why do you think Kostas came off the bench at a D4 WIAA high school? Coaches kid ahead of him? Mind games? Just trying to make it fair for the other team? I personally think he's not very good at basketball. What's your take?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: jsglow on June 27, 2016, 06:22:03 AM
A lot of virtual ink on a kid we'll probably never play against.  I was one who had some interest but yesterday's news now.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: brewcity77 on June 27, 2016, 06:39:56 AM
If Kostas played in any other state, no one would care. Our staff had more of a chance to see him than most schools and we weren't interested. Whether it's ability, worry about academic standing, or how he fits, they know what they want and the lack of any interest or offer clearly shows he's not it. Time to move on.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 27, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
Why do you think Kostas came off the bench at a D4 WIAA high school? Coaches kid ahead of him? Mind games? Just trying to make it fair for the other team? I personally think he's not very good at basketball. What's your take?
Archie Miller thinks he is very good at basketball. The Draft Express people indicate he is someone the NBA is monitoring. They don't waste time monitoring people who cannot play. Domincan was also the home of Diamond Stone and Duane Wilson, who the last time I checked were pretty good players.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2016, 09:51:35 AM
Domincan was also the home of Diamond Stone and Duane Wilson, who the last time I checked were pretty good players.

And it can be argued that both have underperformed their early, loftier ratings.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 27, 2016, 11:52:02 AM
Archie Miller thinks he is very good at basketball. The Draft Express people indicate he is someone the NBA is monitoring. They don't waste time monitoring people who cannot play. Domincan was also the home of Diamond Stone and Duane Wilson, who the last time I checked were pretty good players.

So....you don't have answer for why he didn't start for a Division 4 WIAA team.

I have an answer for why he is rated so high and why the NBA is monitoring him. His last name and his height.

I'll accept that he has upside. But that's all that he's got going for him right now. He's simply not very good at basketball right now. He might get better, but I doubt he will spend enough time at a college to get to that point.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 27, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
So....you don't have answer for why he didn't start for a Division 4 WIAA team.

I have an answer for why he is rated so high and why the NBA is monitoring him. His last name and his height.

I'll accept that he has upside. But that's all that he's got going for him right now. He's simply not very good at basketball right now. He might get better, but I doubt he will spend enough time at a college to get to that point.
Kostas was a starter.

Glad to see you believe he may have upside.

I believe he comes from a good family background and will work hard to realize on his potential .

Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: wadesworld on June 27, 2016, 05:46:30 PM
Kostas was a starter.

Glad to see you believe he may have upside.

I believe he comes from a good family background and will work hard to realize on his potential .

Great.  He gowne.  We had no interest.  If you would like to continue to discuss how excited his fans are go join the Dayton board.  I'm sure they'd be happy to have you.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 27, 2016, 05:52:19 PM
Kostas was a starter.

Glad to see you believe he may have upside.

I believe he comes from a good family background and will work hard to realize on his potential .

He might work hard to realize his potential, at a JUCO or in Europe. I have my doubts it will be at Dayton or any other D1 program.

All I was trying to get you to realize is that while Kostas does have upside because of his size and last name, he isn't very good at basketball right now. There is overwhelming evidence to support that fact. He could be the next Greek Freak, certainly possible but that doesn't make him any better right now.

And yes you are right, he did start his senior year. After riding the bench his first three despite his high ranking and massive size. Even when he finally started, he wasn't even close to dominate. Dominate is the only adjective that should be used for a high major player who's a senior in D4 WIAA.

That's all I got. I'll drop it after this.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Loose Cannon on June 27, 2016, 05:59:13 PM


  Is there anyways you can drop this Bone.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on June 28, 2016, 10:25:56 PM
He might work hard to realize his potential, at a JUCO or in Europe. I have my doubts it will be at Dayton or any other D1 program.

All I was trying to get you to realize is that while Kostas does have upside because of his size and last name, he isn't very good at basketball right now. There is overwhelming evidence to support that fact. He could be the next Greek Freak, certainly possible but that doesn't make him any better right now.

And yes you are right, he did start his senior year. After riding the bench his first three despite his high ranking and massive size. Even when he finally started, he wasn't even close to dominate. Dominate is the only adjective that should be used for a high major player who's a senior in D4 WIAA.

That's all I got. I'll drop it after this.
Archie Miller, believes in Kostas strength of family which I believe is one of his strong points. Says he has immense potential. This kid wants a coach who believes in him and Miller does.

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/sports/archie-miller-kostas-antetokounmpo-has-immense-pot/nrpYz/
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: brewcity77 on June 28, 2016, 10:51:50 PM
And clearly Wojo didn't, so let's give it a rest. Kostas is going elsewhere, best of luck, was never going to get an offer here regardless.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: wadesworld on June 29, 2016, 06:28:57 AM
Archie Miller, believes in Kostas strength of family which I believe is one of his strong points. Says he has immense potential. This kid wants a coach who believes in him and Miller does.

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/sports/archie-miller-kostas-antetokounmpo-has-immense-pot/nrpYz/

Why are you posting stuff on a recruit MU never had any interest in on MUScoop?

Care to share how Brady Ellington's doing?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 30, 2016, 07:51:16 AM

  Is there anyways you can drop this Bone.


Ice water or hittin' it wit a hammer usually duz da trick, ai na?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Loose Cannon on June 30, 2016, 07:57:51 AM

Ice water or hittin' it wit a hammer usually duz da trick, ai na?

That's a long reach for me.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 30, 2016, 08:29:21 AM
That's a long reach for me.

then ya might wanna have someone else help ya out  or a longer hammer-Enn'A hey?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Loose Cannon on June 30, 2016, 08:33:59 AM
then ya might wanna have someone else help ya out  or a longer hammer-Enn'A hey?

 I guess I'll need help, my hammer's not that long..................wait for it
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on July 08, 2016, 04:58:41 PM
In case anyone was wondering, Kostas signed  his NLI. Dayton very excited. Hopefully MU can meet up with Dayton in the tournament. That would be fun.   
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/kostas-antetokounmpo-signs-letter-of-intent-with-university-of-dayton-b99757628z1-385780921.html?page=1
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: MuMark on July 08, 2016, 05:05:03 PM
I'd like to have MU meet up with anyone in the tournament. Dayton means less then nothing to me.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: wadesworld on July 08, 2016, 05:12:18 PM
In case anyone was wondering, Kostas signed  his NLI. Dayton very excited. Hopefully MU can meet up with Dayton in the tournament. That would be fun.   
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/kostas-antetokounmpo-signs-letter-of-intent-with-university-of-dayton-b99757628z1-385780921.html?page=1

Nobody cares. Give it up. He wasn't wanted. Best of luck to him. Join Dayton's basketball forum if you want somewhere to post every time his name is posted online.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 08, 2016, 05:22:29 PM
In case anyone was wondering, Kostas signed  his NLI. Dayton very excited. Hopefully MU can meet up with Dayton in the tournament. That would be fun.   
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/kostas-antetokounmpo-signs-letter-of-intent-with-university-of-dayton-b99757628z1-385780921.html?page=1

Why would that be fun? There's no rivalry anymore between us, we didn't go after kostas so it's not like he'd be against that team he spurned, he has no connection to MU other than living in MKE for a short while. In fact the only reason you should be saying itd be fun is if you're so obsessed with the idea we should've gone after him that you'd want him to kick our a$$ in which case you're like the worst MU fan ever.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Jay Bee on July 08, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
In case anyone was wondering, Kostas signed  his NLI. Dayton very excited. Hopefully MU can meet up with Dayton in the tournament. That would be fun.   
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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/kostas-antetokounmpo-signs-letter-of-intent-with-university-of-dayton-b99757628z1-385780921.html?page=1

No he didn't sign an NLI with Dayton. That's completely false. Don't believe everything you read. Didn't happen and will not ever happen
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on July 08, 2016, 06:52:38 PM
No he didn't sign an NLI with Dayton. That's completely false. Don't believe everything you read. Didn't happen and will not ever happen
Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 09, 2016, 09:06:58 AM
Maybe ders a chance of some Newbill action on dis kid, ai na?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Nukem2 on July 09, 2016, 09:12:30 AM
No he didn't sign an NLI with Dayton. That's completely false. Don't believe everything you read. Didn't happen and will not ever happen
Yep, the NLI period ended in May, so all Kostas can sign are institution-specific paperwork.  In essence, he is still a free agent until he enrolls as a full-time student for the first semester.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Jay Bee on July 09, 2016, 09:47:35 AM
Yep, the NLI period ended in May, so all Kostas can sign are institution-specific paperwork.  In essence, he is still a free agent until he enrolls as a full-time student for the first semester.

Not quite a free agent since he has signed financial aid / scholarship papers, but you're right on the NLI.

The journal sentinel got it wrong and Marquette Fan In NY believed it. Further, he posted more non-news re: Kostas on the Hanging' at the Al board of this site.

The interesting news will be if/when Kostas hits the floor in a real game this winter as an eligible student-athlete.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: real chili 83 on July 09, 2016, 09:49:14 AM
Not quite a free agent since he has signed financial aid / scholarship papers, but you're right on the NLI.

The journal sentinel got it wrong and Marquette Fan In NY believed it. Further, he posted more non-news re: Kostas on the Hanging' at the Al board of this site.

The interesting news will be if/when Kostas hits the floor in a real game this winter as an eligible student-athlete.


I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on July 09, 2016, 11:16:21 AM
Not quite a free agent since he has signed financial aid / scholarship papers, but you're right on the NLI.

The journal sentinel got it wrong and Marquette Fan In NY believed it. Further, he posted more non-news re: Kostas on the Hanging' at the Al board of this site.

The interesting news will be if/when Kostas hits the floor in a real game this winter as an eligible student-athlete.
Here is what Dayton said on their website, which the Journal Sentinel took their story from :

DAYTON – University of Dayton men's basketball coach Archie Miller has announced that Kostas Antetokounmpo, a 6-foot-10, 190-pound forward from Athens, Greece, has signed to play at the University of Dayton.

(Pronunciation:  COAST-us Ah-day-toe-KOON-boe)

The point is he is enrolling in the school .

Yes, the interesting news will be if he is certified by the NCAA and actually plays.

We won't know those details until later.



Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Jay Bee on July 09, 2016, 11:23:20 AM
Here is what Dayton said on their website, which the Journal Sentinel took their story from :

DAYTON – University of Dayton men's basketball coach Archie Miller has announced that Kostas Antetokounmpo, a 6-foot-10, 190-pound forward from Athens, Greece, has signed to play at the University of Dayton.

(Pronunciation:  COAST-us Ah-day-toe-KOON-boe)

The point is he is enrolling in the school .

Yes, the interesting news will be if he is certified by the NCAA and actually plays.

We won't know those details until later.

How do you know what the JS based their national letter of intent comment on? Obviously they didn't get that from Dayton's press release.

And long ago you posted that Kostas had committed to Dayton. This "news" didn't change anything re: "the point is he is enrolling in the school"... so if that was the point, why did you post the misinformation re: an NLI being signed?

The point is, you posted something that was factually incorrect and added nothing to a topic that you continue to go on and on about, even though it has little to nothing to do with MU basketball.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on July 09, 2016, 11:38:14 AM
How do you know what the JS based their national letter of intent comment on? Obviously they didn't get that from Dayton's press release.

And long ago you posted that Kostas had committed to Dayton. This "news" didn't change anything re: "the point is he is enrolling in the school"... so if that was the point, why did you post the misinformation re: an NLI being signed?

The point is, you posted something that was factually incorrect and added nothing to a topic that you continue to go on and on about, even though it has little to nothing to do with MU basketball.
If you are going to make ad hominem attacks please look at the fact pattern.

I first posted what the Journal Sentinel said:
"Whitefish Bay Dominican graduate Kostas Antetokounmpo signed a national letter of intent to play basketball at Dayton."

There is no intent of misinformation there.

You claim the JS is  factually incorrect. I noted your clarification in a prior post even though there is nothing to support your position in the public domain . I took the charitable position to acknowledge you are correct in your position and restated that Kostas is enrolling , which a Dayton PR person could construe as "signing" and which the JS construed as a National Letter of Intent.

I get that you consider yourself the Guru of all things NCAA rules related. However, there are others who have real time experience in these matters as well. So not really necessary to mark your territory so hard.

Lighten up and enjoy the summer.


Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Jay Bee on July 09, 2016, 11:47:24 AM
If your going to make ad hominem attacks please look at the fact pattern.

You're vs. your

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY
I first posted what the Journal Sentinel said:
You claim the JS is  factually incorrect. I noted your clarification in a prior post even though there is nothing to support your position in the public domain .

Huh? Facts and reality support my "position", pal.

The NLI signing period ended May 18, well before Kostas was Dayton-bound. That date is "in the public domain" and even you could find it with a quick search.

My position that the JS and you are incorrect in stating that Kostas signed an NLI is clear and supported by readily available facts.

You're being an idiot.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: MU82 on July 09, 2016, 01:22:53 PM
Kostas who?
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Herman Cain on July 09, 2016, 03:07:58 PM
Kostas who?
(Pronunciation:  COAST-us Ah-day-toe-KOON-boe)
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Dawson Rental on July 09, 2016, 05:17:32 PM
(Pronunciation:  COAST-us Ah-day-toe-KOON-boe)

Fortunately, he didn't COAST-us a scholarship.
Title: Re: Kostas off the board
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 10, 2016, 10:08:39 PM
Fortunately, he didn't COAST-us a scholarship.

ba-dum-pish