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Title: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 12:36:37 PM
I voted last year. 

The only way I can see how we would be better is a team that chucks 30 threes a game, and hits 8 to 13 every game.  Not sure we are that team.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: bilsu on May 18, 2016, 12:37:42 PM
I also voted last year, but it now only shows one vote for last year.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: KampusFoods on May 18, 2016, 12:38:47 PM
I said next year. #guardsgame, eh nah?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
How many topics are you going to start today?  That would be a great poll.  Get on it.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 12:40:31 PM
How many topics are you going to start today?  That would be a great poll.  Get on it.

I done that polls many times, the last time was about 2 years ago.

Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: mu-rara on May 18, 2016, 12:42:37 PM
Next year.  Don't underestimate the experience the young guards gained this year.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 18, 2016, 12:46:05 PM
next year-everyone including wojo is a year older and wiser.  looking forward to our outside shot.  opens up the no-footers
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:52:46 PM
I done that polls many times, the last time was about 2 years ago.

Awesome.  Sad I missed it.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: CTWarrior on May 18, 2016, 12:59:55 PM
I voted last year, but this is a very difficult question, because I think we'll be roughly the same.  Improvement of returnees plus newcomers vs loss of the Ellensons.  We probably did better in close games than we should have last year, and that luck doesn't necessarily translate year to year.

I just know I'd feel a lot better about next year if I felt we had even one guy who could bang down low.

If we want to improve, we'd better shoot the ball a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: hdog1017 on May 18, 2016, 01:24:28 PM
If it's not next year, then Wojo's seat should be very hot. 
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 18, 2016, 01:26:00 PM
I don't think Khalif Young will be the difference between this team being better or worse than last year.  I think they'll be better, but they do badly need a rebounder next year, and moreso in 17.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: mu03eng on May 18, 2016, 01:31:11 PM
How are we determining better? Better record? Make post season play? Higher scoring average? More 3s made? Fewer Ellensons on the team?

We might finish with a worse record but make the post season next year....does that count as better?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: brewcity77 on May 18, 2016, 01:40:29 PM
Next year, because I've always believed that experience for guys like Cheatham and Carter will be more valuable than what Henry gave as a freshman. Add in viable shooters like Reinhardt, Rowsey, Howard, and Hauser and we've got the offensive weapons. The only question is if someone can go get the ball. My hope is that either Sandy or Anim becomes a viable option at the 4 for at least 15-20 mpg.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 01:40:40 PM
If it's not next year, then Wojo's seat should be very hot.

It wouldn't be, and it shouldn't be.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: GB Warrior on May 18, 2016, 01:46:37 PM
If it's not next year, then Wojo's seat should be very hot.

Let's set this straight. It will be warmer if we don't see improvement from our current stable of players. It will not be because we missed out on a rising but unheralded role player.

Wojo has done a great job with his guys, but it takes time to collect enough of them to make a difference. Respect the process, 5-year plan, etc., etc.


If this team sucks this year, it will not be because Kalif went in a different direction
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: mu03eng on May 18, 2016, 01:49:42 PM
Raise your hand if you thought Young was an immediate contributor that would solve our rebounding problems and/or play more than 10 minutes a game next season

Raise your hand if you thought Wally was an immediate contributor that would solve our rebounding problems and/or play more than 10 minutes a game next season


Unless your hand is up for either of those things, losing Young or Wally(for next year) has almost no bearing on whether we are going to be "better" next year or not.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: 🏀 on May 18, 2016, 01:51:52 PM
What about this year?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: 1SE on May 18, 2016, 01:56:38 PM
How are we determining better? Better record? Make post season play? Higher scoring average? More 3s made? Fewer Ellensons on the team?

We might finish with a worse record but make the post season next year....does that count as better?

Seriously? 
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 18, 2016, 01:57:31 PM
I voted for next year, we won't be the least experienced team on the court by a wide margin every time next year.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: mu03eng on May 18, 2016, 02:25:26 PM
Seriously?

Yes seriously. If it's that obvious then it should be easy to answer. What measurement are we using to determine if the team is better?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: We R Final Four on May 18, 2016, 02:28:37 PM
How many topics are you going to start today?  That would be a great poll.  Get on it.
+1. Why do I feel this isn't the last of heisy on this topic?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: 1SE on May 18, 2016, 03:02:28 PM
Yes seriously. If it's that obvious then it should be easy to answer. What measurement are we using to determine if the team is better?

Let's ask the 2015 UK team.  Postseason (results) are ALL that matter.  If we go 0-30 next year and run the BET table I'll consider it a better year.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: mu03eng on May 18, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
Let's ask the 2015 UK team.  Postseason (results) are ALL that matter.  If we go 0-30 next year and run the BET table I'll consider it a better year.

See that wasn't so hard was it?

Based on that, yes we will be better this coming year than we were this past year. We will make the post season.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: tower912 on May 18, 2016, 03:30:44 PM
How many topics are you going to start today?  That would be a great poll.  Get on it.
Without the politics board, what else does he have to do?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: tower912 on May 18, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Next year.    More experienced.   A year stronger.   Lots of competition for playing time at positions 1 thru 4. 
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: muwarrior69 on May 18, 2016, 04:40:12 PM
next year-everyone including wojo is a year older and wiser.  looking forward to our outside shot.  opens up the no-footers

I'll believe it when I see it. Everytime we take a perimeter shot I hold my breath and more often than not say "Oh Sh!t!

I also hope our defense improves.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: dgies9156 on May 18, 2016, 04:59:52 PM
If next year isn't an NCAA team, we have problems. Period.

I'm confident because:
   1) Our team has a year of experience under its belt.
   2) I expect our team to be more of a team next year. Last year, it was "Let Henry do it" too often. With Henry gone, more of our team will have to contribute.
   3) Our guard play should be extremely strong and my bet is that even though we are somewhat height challenged, we're deeper than we have been since the Hillbilly left.
   4) With the speed and quickness I hope we will have, Wojo should be able to coach more of  the game he wants to coach, rather than the game he HAS to coach.

This is getting a lot closer to a Wojo team and looks and feels more of what I would expect from Coach Wojo.

 
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 18, 2016, 08:12:06 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. Everytime we take a perimeter shot I hold my breath and more often than not say "Oh Sh!t!

I also hope our defense improves.

as i said, we're all a year older, including traci, sandy, duane, and now incoming sam(don't call me doogie) hauser-light 'em boys!!  if we don't have a reliable PF, wojo is gonna have them shooting 3's blind folded in practice, watching tape of steph curry in their sleep
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: naginiF on May 18, 2016, 08:32:03 PM
as i said, we're all a year older, including traci, sandy, duane, and now incoming sam(don't call me doogie) hauser-light 'em boys!!  if we don't have a reliable PF, wojo is gonna have them shooting 3's blind folded in practice, watching tape of steph curry in their sleep
I am so torn about the Politics Board being shut down.  On one hand we get inundated with new threads that used to be focused on that board.  On the other I'm going to have to take you off of ignore because I agree with your basketball POV. 

Damn you Rocket Surgeon!  Damn you to internet chat room purgatory!
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on May 18, 2016, 08:57:11 PM
I voted next year. Everyone with a year more  of experience and the new guys can shoot.

On a side note Heisy, did you skip every English class ever offered during your scholastic career?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: BM1090 on May 18, 2016, 09:16:17 PM
Next year and I don't think it's particularly close. We lose our best player and a non-factor.

We gain two guys (Reinhardt and Howard) who should contribute immediately and Hauser who could get some minutes with his shooting. Everyone else gets a year older.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 18, 2016, 10:53:40 PM
Next year and I don't think it's particularly close. We lose our best player and a non-factor.

We gain two guys (Reinhardt and Howard) who should contribute immediately and Hauser who could get some minutes with his shooting. Everyone else gets a year older.

Don't forget Rowsey!
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Herman Cain on May 18, 2016, 11:23:41 PM
Don't forget Rowsey!
Rowsey is a quality addition. I think he will end up being a fan favorite.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 19, 2016, 11:41:20 AM
I voted next year. Everyone with a year more  of experience and the new guys can shoot.

On a side note Heisy, did you skip every English class ever offered during your scholastic career?

Actually I did missed most of than.

This has come up before ... only those that had potty problems at a young age care.  How bad was it for you?
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on May 19, 2016, 12:19:29 PM
Rowsey is a quality addition. I think he will end up being a fan favorite.

You think the short white guy is going to be a fan favorite? Really going out on a limb with that prediction, huh?  ;)

Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Herman Cain on May 19, 2016, 12:21:28 PM
You think the short white guy is going to be a fan favorite? Really going out on a limb with that prediction, huh?  ;)
I need a lay up to offset my four year call on Henry.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 19, 2016, 02:00:20 PM
I am so torn about the Politics Board being shut down.  On one hand we get inundated with new threads that used to be focused on that board.  On the other I'm going to have to take you off of ignore because I agree with your basketball POV. 

Damn you Rocket Surgeon!  Damn you to internet chat room purgatory!

that made me laugh!  hey, us conservatives ain't so bad; we put our hanes on the same way as everyone else.  that's if we chose to wear 'em at all.  but thanks and peace 8-)

wouldn't ya'll love to see wojo reach for his inner paul westhead and bring on a balls out, "40 minutes of hell" in a display of shock n awe 3's?  watching games well into the hundreds?  i don't care what anyone says, that would fill up the seats wherever they go.  only one minor detail...better be good at the 3
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on May 19, 2016, 05:01:17 PM
Actually I did missed most of than.

This has come up before ... only those that had potty problems at a young age care.  How bad was it for you?
No problems here on that front.  And I've never seen that come up before.  Seems to be a case of you projecting, hey?

In any event, I've no problems with someone who has typos. Between the fact that this is a basketball message board and the fact that many type on iPhones and other smartphones, typos happen.  But it's painful to read click after click after click by you when you use the wrong form of they're v. their v. there, or the wrong form of its v. it's, or the wrong use of then and than.  I guess I thought most college grads, especially those who went to MU, knew the English language better than that.  Who am i kidding, I thought most high school grads knew grammar better than that.

Ok.  I'm off the soapbox.  Carry on. 

And I'd love to see "40 minutes of hell" Rocket.  I think we'll have the shooters and the speed to do it.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: bilsu on May 21, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
This year's team could very well do better than 8-10 in the Big East, but overall I think the Big East will be weaker than last year. Villanova and Xavier will still be NCAA tournament teams, but both should not be as good as last year. How good will Seton Hall be, if Whitehead does not comeback? How good will Providence be, if Bentil does not comeback. The 5th NCAA team Butler lost key players to graduation.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: Herman Cain on May 21, 2016, 09:30:49 PM
This year's team could very well do better than 8-10 in the Big East, but overall I think the Big East will be weaker than last year. Villanova and Xavier will still be NCAA tournament teams, but both should not be as good as last year. How good will Seton Hall be, if Whitehead does not comeback? How good will Providence be, if Bentil does not comeback. The 5th NCAA team Butler lost key players to graduation.
Creighton is going to be very good. Butler has several very good transfers coming in. The Johnnies will not be an easy win this year. Georgetown will improve. Xavier is going to be an excellent team.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: wadesworld on May 21, 2016, 09:44:06 PM
This year's team could very well do better than 8-10 in the Big East, but overall I think the Big East will be weaker than last year. Villanova and Xavier will still be NCAA tournament teams, but both should not be as good as last year. How good will Seton Hall be, if Whitehead does not comeback? How good will Providence be, if Bentil does not comeback. The 5th NCAA team Butler lost key players to graduation.

Xavier will be better next year than they were this year. Nova could be just as good.
Title: Re: Poll: Which Team is Better, Next Year or Last Year?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 21, 2016, 10:40:59 PM
This year's team could very well do better than 8-10 in the Big East, but overall I think the Big East will be weaker than last year. Villanova and Xavier will still be NCAA tournament teams, but both should not be as good as last year. How good will Seton Hall be, if Whitehead does not comeback? How good will Providence be, if Bentil does not comeback. The 5th NCAA team Butler lost key players to graduation.

I don't think you could be more wrong about the Big East. Looking at what the conference is losing and what is gaining, and comparing that to the other conferences, I could see the Big East producing 8 top 50 caliber teams. Now of course, those 8 will cannibalize each other. Gotta make sure we aren't in the bottom two of those eight.