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Title: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Marquette84 on December 18, 2007, 12:20:45 PM

How about a team where a player had one good game that left us wondering what might have been if he could have pulled it off with any consistency:

--Amo's game against South Carolina most definitely earns him a spot
--Joe Nethen had a career game against Cleveland State in 1987, where he scored 23 and pulled down 12 rebounds.
--Mike Kinsella's surprise trey shooting versus Pitt in 2007
--Polo's game against Morgan State--21 points, 9 boards
--Charles Brakes career game versus Prairie View--19 points, 6 boards, 5 assists

Anyone else belong on the team?
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: MU_Grad02 on December 18, 2007, 12:39:26 PM
David Diggs and the Great Alaska Shootout Championship game.  I think he went 5-5 on 3s.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: MilTown on December 18, 2007, 12:41:15 PM
Novak vs Louisville or Novak vs UConn. I don't remember the exact stats or dates, but both games he was sick. I actually think the Lousiville game was his best. The guy couldn't miss. Granted, Novak during his career was very consistent, but in those games he was aggressive and looking for his shot more. I think if he did that throughout his career, he could have put up even better numbers.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: RJax55 on December 18, 2007, 12:58:17 PM
Novak vs Louisville or Novak vs UConn. I don't remember the exact stats or dates, but both games he was sick. I actually think the Lousiville game was his best. The guy couldn't miss. Granted, Novak during his career was very consistent, but in those games he was aggressive and looking for his shot more. I think if he did that throughout his career, he could have put up even better numbers.

Novak had a GREAT senior season and was very consistent. He should not be listed as an example.

Great call above on Diggs. His 3's were the difference in that game. Funny, both Alaskan Shootout championship games featured a one and done career performance by an MU player.

Hopefully, Dwight Burke does not appear on this list in a few years. Would be nice to see him have a few more UW type games.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 18, 2007, 01:07:20 PM

How about a team where a player had one good game that left us wondering what might have been if he could have pulled it off with any consistency:

--Amo's game against South Carolina most definitely earns him a spot
--Joe Nethen had a career game against Cleveland State in 1987, where he scored 23 and pulled down 12 rebounds.
--Mike Kinsella's surprise trey shooting versus Pitt in 2007
--Polo's game against Morgan State--21 points, 9 boards
--Charles Brakes career game versus Prairie View--19 points, 6 boards, 5 assists

Anyone else belong on the team?

I nominate Marquette84 for that one decent post he had back in 2004.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: MilTown on December 18, 2007, 01:13:42 PM
If you read my post, I said that Novak was consistent. I just think in those two games we saw what Novak was capable of if he looked for his shot a bit more and was aggressive on the offensive end. I think in a lot of games he just sort of floated on the perimeter vs. demanding the ball. I think a lot of games, we wanted more from Novak.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: chapman on December 18, 2007, 08:04:52 PM
41 points, 16 rebounds.  Called the best individual performance of the season in the NCAA.  I think it qualifies, because most of these performances aren't 33.5 points and 10.1 rebounds above their best season's average.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 18, 2007, 08:25:11 PM

How about a team where a player had one good game that left us wondering what might have been if he could have pulled it off with any consistency:

--Amo's game against South Carolina most definitely earns him a spot
--Joe Nethen had a career game against Cleveland State in 1987, where he scored 23 and pulled down 12 rebounds.
--Mike Kinsella's surprise trey shooting versus Pitt in 2007
--Polo's game against Morgan State--21 points, 9 boards
--Charles Brakes career game versus Prairie View--19 points, 6 boards, 5 assists

Anyone else belong on the team?

I nominate Marquette84 for that one decent post he had back in 2004.

so he's one ahead of you then?   :-*
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: swojo on December 18, 2007, 09:44:34 PM
D Diggs won the Alaska Shootout with 5 for 5 on Three Point Shots.
Came out of nowhere, never heard form since
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on December 18, 2007, 09:51:33 PM
D Diggs won the Alaska Shootout with 5 for 5 on Three Point Shots.
Came out of nowhere, never heard form since

I know he was boning a nasty chick that worked at the library....
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: bilsu on December 18, 2007, 09:53:15 PM
Lucas fouls out and Jerry Homan comes off the bench and leads the team to victory and a berth in the 1974 final four.

If you are going to include Novak's game against Connecticutt than you would have to include Wade's triple double against Kentucky. Hoverever, I do not think any player that makes the NBA should be included on the list.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: shaquilvaine on December 18, 2007, 10:17:05 PM
How about John Cliff's 37 pts against Memphis or Jared Lovette's 13-13 free throws in the big win versus Loserville.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Eye on December 18, 2007, 11:29:28 PM
Wasn't a great offensive game by any means, but how about Brian Barone leading MU in scoring with about 10 or so points in a win over Cincinnati in about 2000?

I'd throw Chris Grimm in here for his defensive contributions at the end of his senior season a couple years back against Hibbert and Georgetown, and Gray and Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: augoman on December 18, 2007, 11:57:40 PM
don't forget Chris Grimm shut down Madison's bigs his senior year for a nice BC W over UW (before fouling out).
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Eastsider on December 19, 2007, 08:31:34 AM
--Grimm vs. Tucker
--Todd Townsend hit something like 4 threes (plus one that didnt' count) before the first TV timeout against DePaul one year.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Carl Spackler on December 19, 2007, 02:50:22 PM
Barone v. Cinci was in 2001 i think.  We won around 50-49 or something like that.  My buddy who i went to games with at the time and I hated barone and never wanted tim to play -- we much preferred the lil' man Cordell.  But barone had the game of his life against the hated 'cats.  fantastic. 


Another vote for Grimm against Tucker in 04--that has to be up there for recent players.  a rare start for the reaper and he did a great job keeping a body on tucker the first 10 minutes of the game and tucker was not himself the rest of the game. 



Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Eye on December 19, 2007, 06:30:56 PM
I couldn't stand Barone either at the time to be real honest. Met his father at the C-USA tourney in Louisville in 2001, which changed my tune. Everytime I see a kid pump fake instead of shooting when he's open from 15 feet and in I think of Barone.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: SGWarrior on December 19, 2007, 06:52:01 PM
Todd Townsend.

Todd had a great Blue & Gold Classic either his freshman or sophmore year.  I want to say his frosh.  Named to the All-Tourney team, etc.  Threw down some highlight reel dunks, filled up the stat sheet.  I was super pumped to have him at MU and thought at the time this would be an NBA-type player after 3 years.

Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on October 27, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
D Diggs won the Alaska Shootout with 5 for 5 on Three Point Shots.
Came out of nowhere, never heard form since
.... coach?
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: willie warrior on October 27, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
Sewell's 21  to seal the NIT championship in 1970.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 27, 2014, 08:34:49 PM
I nominate Marquette84 for that one decent post he had back in 2004.


so he's one ahead of you then?   :-*

Mr. drummer, can I have a rim shot?
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 27, 2014, 08:37:19 PM
How about John Cliff's 37 pts against Memphis or Jared Lovette's 13-13 free throws in the big win versus Loserville.

Ah, you beat me to Jared against Loserville his junior year.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 27, 2014, 08:56:02 PM
Rob frozena's three pointer against UNC in 2011
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: TheBurrEffect on October 27, 2014, 10:27:01 PM
Why has no one mentioned Jake Thomas. He scored 50 iirc in his freshman year. And put up 30 once this year.

Also David Cubillan went 6-6 from three one night his senior year. He could have been something.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: TheBurrEffect on October 27, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
Holy crap, this post is 5 years old. Super confused on why someone was saying why Dwight Burke hopefully wasnt 1 and done
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: source? on October 27, 2014, 10:37:01 PM
Ah, you beat me to Jared against Loserville his junior year.

Only by 7 years, though.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 27, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
Jean Felix
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: JTBMU7 on October 27, 2014, 11:01:52 PM
Dameon Mason, Louisville, 2004. Game winner from the baseline. Thought he could be the next great one for MU. Next thing we know he's transferring and playing pickup ball at the rec center.... Think I D'd him up once or twice, it did not end well. For me....
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 27, 2014, 11:12:45 PM
Only by 7 years, though.

Busted, f'ing bumped threads.

RJax55 talking about Dwight Burke in the present tense should have been a clue...
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 27, 2014, 11:39:45 PM
.... coach?

It was posted from a Milwaukee IP address, so if you can prove Wojo was in mke that day, then you're onto something.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: patso on October 28, 2014, 07:08:32 AM

Terry Reason v Iona
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: alexius23 on October 28, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
I think the ultimate "What if?" has to be if Jim Chones wouldn't have gone pro with less than 1 month before the end of the season/start of NCAA tournament. He made all American that year. I can understand why he went pro but...sigh
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: Fullodds on October 28, 2014, 08:36:45 AM
Michael 'Pops' Sims v. NC.  No three point line back then or he would have had 30.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: tower912 on October 28, 2014, 12:36:16 PM
2003 Crean.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: bilsu on October 28, 2014, 12:42:01 PM
I know this is really about players that did not play much, but almost every player has an outlier. Kaminsky last year when he scored 40+points, Wade's triple double against #1 Kentucky, Novak's two big games against UConn & Louisville. Almost every player has a career game.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: HouWarrior on October 30, 2014, 07:03:44 AM
I am going to add one many might consider odd.

At the pro level only-- Dean Meminger

He had a huge game in the 1973 NBA Eastern Finals shutting down JoJo White of Boston, and scoring 13 late points  to send the Knicks to the finals. Willis Reed called it the "Dream" game.

What could have been? After being drafted by the hometown Knicks.... he rode the bench behind maybe the best guard combo in NBA history: Walt "Clyde" Frazier and Earl "the Pearl" Monroe

I recall thinking during that 1973 game about what if he'd been first drafted by any number of other NBA teams where he would have started and been able to  better showcase his talent ---what if, based on one starring game.

Of Course, we all later learned his arc never went as far as hoped also due to a nagging cocaine addiction

RIP Dean, ....one my favorite all time MU ballers
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: dgies9156 on October 30, 2014, 08:48:29 AM
I think the ultimate "What if?" has to be if Jim Chones wouldn't have gone pro with less than 1 month before the end of the season/start of NCAA tournament. He made all American that year. I can understand why he went pro but...sigh

Amen.

Probably the biggest "what if..." in Marquette history. If Jimmy Chones could have finished his college basketball career at Marquette -- rather than turning pro -- one could legitimately argue that with the team we had, both then and coming in, we would have been one of the all-time best in college basketball.

We'll never know. Jimmy did what was right for him and his family. That matters far more than all the national championships that never were.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on October 30, 2014, 08:59:36 AM
Wasn't a great offensive game by any means, but how about Brian Barone leading MU in scoring with about 10 or so points in a win over Cincinnati in about 2000?

I'd throw Chris Grimm in here for his defensive contributions at the end of his senior season a couple years back against Hibbert and Georgetown, and Gray and Pittsburgh.
Yes; Barones game against Kenny Satterfield Inc.    He played great d against Satterfield
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: radome on October 30, 2014, 09:23:58 AM
Mayo vs. Wisconsin in 2011.
Title: Re: All-time "If he could have only done it again. . . " team.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 30, 2014, 11:07:47 AM
2003 Crean.

Bahahaha, this was great.