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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on November 27, 2015, 11:38:52 AM

Title: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on November 27, 2015, 11:38:52 AM
Monmouth is a popular buy game.  This year, however, they are 3 and 1 with wins over ND and UCLA.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400826204

Are they the real deal this year or lucky so far?
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: keefe on November 27, 2015, 11:49:05 AM
The coach thanks the Monmouth AD for giving him the time to build his program. evidently his early year records were not stellar. Interesting perspective.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Jay Bee on November 27, 2015, 12:39:37 PM
Monmouth is a popular bye game.  This year, however, they are 3 and 1 with wins over ND and UCLA.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400826204

Are they the real deal this year or lucky so far?

They are not the real deal.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 27, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
Monmouth is a popular bye game.  This year, however, they are 3 and 1 with wins over ND and UCLA.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400826204

Are they the real deal this year or lucky so far?

UCLA sucks right now just as they did most of last year.  Shut down Bryce Alford and you win.  They may get it together, but right now they are not a good basketball team.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Eldon on November 27, 2015, 12:46:04 PM
UCLA sucks right now just as they did most of last year.  Shut down Bryce Alford and you win.  They may get it together, but right now they are not a good basketball team.

And yet they'll still somehow make the Tourney
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: fjm on November 27, 2015, 12:47:51 PM
I respect their wins, but the fact that their fanbase keeps using #mubb on twitter is annoying and confusing the living sh!t out of me... Knock it off damn monmouth people.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on November 27, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I respect their wins, but the fact that their fanbase keeps using #mubb on twitter is annoying and confusing the living sh!t out of me... Knock it off damn monmouth people.

+1 they should be mmbb or monb

mu.edu = Marquette
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on November 27, 2015, 12:55:37 PM
And yet they'll still somehow make the Tourney

Maybe.  They've missed it two of the last 6 seasons, and four times in the last 13 seasons (69% of the time they made it in those 13 years).
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: downtown85 on November 27, 2015, 01:54:06 PM
Anyone who beats the Domers is the real deal in my book...at least for a day. 
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: wadesworld on November 27, 2015, 02:36:54 PM
They are not the real deal.

+1
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: The Equalizer on November 27, 2015, 02:57:46 PM
But are they a typical MAAC team?
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: vogue65 on November 27, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
This summer I was in Long Branch, New Jersey and everything is MU this and MU that.  Even very similar typography, may even be a trademark infringement there somewhere.  Until recently they were Monmouth College.  Not to be a snob, but there are even some rubes in New Jersey.

In my book anyone who beats ND is the real deal, whatever they call themselves.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Golden Avalanche on November 27, 2015, 04:52:58 PM
This summer I was in Long Branch, New Jersey and everything is MU this and MU that.  Even very similar typography, may even be a trademark infringement there somewhere.  Until recently they were Monmouth College.  Not to be a snob, but there are even some rubes in New Jersey.

In my book anyone who beats ND is the real deal, whatever they call themselves.

They're rubes because the typography of their car sticker is similar to Marquette?
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: jsglow on November 27, 2015, 09:23:52 PM
Now they are giving Dayton all they want.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Eldon on November 27, 2015, 10:10:50 PM
Monmouth to the Big East?
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on November 28, 2015, 09:38:06 AM
Now they are giving Dayton all they want.

Anybody see the ESPN highlight of this game?  It was all about the Monmouth bench and their crazy choreographed celebrations. Pretty funny.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on November 29, 2015, 04:51:53 PM
The Beat USC today (Southern Cal, Not South Carolina).  Ok, they suck but it's another power conference won for them.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: BM1090 on November 29, 2015, 05:28:36 PM
The Beat USC today (Southern Cal, Not South Carolina).  Ok, they suck but it's another power conference won for them.

They definitely don't suck. Solid team. But you asked if they were the real deal. They have a 0% chance for an at large bid....so I wouldn't consider them the real deal.

Interestingly enough, they already played USC earlier this year and lost by 11. Won the rematch today.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 29, 2015, 05:46:44 PM
They definitely don't suck. Solid team. But you asked if they were the real deal. They have a 0% chance for an at large bid....so I wouldn't consider them the real deal.

Interestingly enough, they already played USC earlier this year and lost by 11. Won the rematch today.

I bet if they win out and then lose in the conf tourney championship, they'd be on the bubble.

So more like a 0.5% chance.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: GGGG on November 29, 2015, 05:47:41 PM
Coached by former Tarheel King Rice who has turned his life around after battles with alcohol. 
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 30, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
The Monmouth bench has won me over.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/11/29/9814692/monmouth-bench-celebrations-benchwarmers-basketball

Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Class71 on November 30, 2015, 07:13:22 PM
Yes, they are the real deal. More to come with a 5' 6" guard.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: jsglow on December 15, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: T-Bone on December 15, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.

They have the best sweater vest section in the nation...
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 15, 2015, 07:54:44 PM
Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.

I believe G-Town is on a quarter system and they are on break (finished last week).

Monmouth has beaten UCLA, Notre Dame and USC.  They are leading big against G-Town late the second half (up 14 with 10 to play). 

Does any other school have more "marquee name" wins than Monmouth?



Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: LAZER on December 15, 2015, 07:59:38 PM
I believe G-Town is on a quarter system and they are on break (finished last week).

Monmouth has beaten UCLA, Notre Dame and USC.  They are leading big against G-Town late the second half (up 12 with 12 to play). 

Does any other school have more "marquee name" wins than Monmouth?
MSU, Xavier, Duke, KU?
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 15, 2015, 08:07:13 PM
Update, Monmouth up by 15 with 7 to play.  Oh, game at G-Town.

They just said Monmouth is 0-30 lifetime against the Big East (including 0-2 against Georgetown).
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: naginiF on December 15, 2015, 08:24:33 PM
Ummm, yeah.

BTW, where are all the GTown sweatervests?  How come there's no energy in the Verizon Center? Students suck these days.  I wonder who's announcing their transfer out after the game?  Blah, blah, blah.
you're ignoring the elephant in the room.  Verizon has HORRIBLE sight lines, primarily because of the Capitals.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 15, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
I'm still not sure if they're The Real Deal(tm), but Georgetown's defense isn't playing very well.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: jsglow on December 15, 2015, 08:42:34 PM
83-68 arse kicking.  They're good.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: brewcity77 on December 15, 2015, 08:52:18 PM
Don't know if Monmouth is the real deal, but at 6-4, I'm not at all convinced the Hoyas are the real deal.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: jsglow on December 15, 2015, 09:20:06 PM
Don't know if Monmouth is the real deal, but at 6-4, I'm not at all convinced the Hoyas are the real deal.

True dat.  Where's our hoya friend?
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Loose Cannon on December 15, 2015, 09:31:08 PM

  If we had those Wins would you consider MU the "Real Deal"???
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: wadesworld on December 15, 2015, 09:35:15 PM
True dat.  Where's our hoya friend?

He's still wondering whether they'll be a 1 seed or shafted down to a 3 seed.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: brewcity77 on December 15, 2015, 09:56:11 PM
If we had those Wins would you consider MU the "Real Deal"???

They do have an impressive resume thus far. The loss to Canisius is questionable, but that is a road conference game. Their two non-con losses (USC & Dayton) both look like tourney teams, and they were able to avenge the road loss to USC on a neutral court.

I ran RPIWizard and dropped the Belmont and Iowa losses, instead giving us the same two losses (USC road, Dayton neutral). I also dropped our last three cupcakes (Grambling, SJSU, Maine) and replaced them with the Notre Dame, UCLA, and USC wins that Monmouth earned. To offset the Canisius loss, I gave us a road loss to DePaul.

With a 10-8 conference record and 21-10 overall, we would have a RPI of 25 and SOS of 37. Going with our own schedule, we would have a RPI of 64 and SOS of 100. It certainly does look convincing.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Loose Cannon on December 15, 2015, 10:47:04 PM
They do have an impressive resume thus far. The loss to Canisius is questionable, but that is a road conference game. Their two non-con losses (USC & Dayton) both look like tourney teams, and they were able to avenge the road loss to USC on a neutral court.

I ran RPIWizard and dropped the Belmont and Iowa losses, instead giving us the same two losses (USC road, Dayton neutral). I also dropped our last three cupcakes (Grambling, SJSU, Maine) and replaced them with the Notre Dame, UCLA, and USC wins that Monmouth earned. To offset the Canisius loss, I gave us a road loss to DePaul.

With a 10-8 conference record and 21-10 overall, we would have a RPI of 25 and SOS of 37. Going with our own schedule, we would have a RPI of 64 and SOS of 100. It certainly does look convincing.

  Like your numbers Thanks
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 15, 2015, 11:42:06 PM
Don't know if Monmouth is the real deal, but at 6-4, I'm not at all convinced the Hoyas are the real deal.

Streaky team. Looked real good in tough losses at MD and neutral to Duke. And they controlled Wisco handily. But also have 2 mid major losses with one being Radford.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: Jay Bee on March 13, 2016, 06:15:29 PM
They are not the real deal.

...not far from making the tourney, but NIT it is for Monmouth. Would welcome us playing them.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: wadesworld on March 13, 2016, 08:56:26 PM
Glad I don't have to hear more about their bench than the actual game itself in the NCAA Tournament.
Title: Re: Is Monmouth The Real Deal?
Post by: CTWarrior on March 13, 2016, 09:40:01 PM
Glad I don't have to hear more about their bench than the actual game itself in the NCAA Tournament.

To me, if you have a very tough decision between a mid-major and a major, you shouild take the nid-major, who have so many built-in disadvantages.