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Title: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 09, 2015, 12:31:00 AM
Stats from last season:

Kellen Dunham: 16.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.0 bpg, 1.5 tpg, .429 FG%, .410 3P%, 1st Team All Big East

Mo Watson Jr: 13.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 7.1 apg, 2.1 spg, 0.0 bpg, 2.9 tpg, .495 FG%, .337 3P% (13-14 stats for Boston University)

Billy Garrett Jr: 12.3 PPG, 2.4 rpg, 3.9 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 2.3 tpg, .397 FG%, .327 3P% All Big East Honorable Mention

D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera: 16.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 3.2 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.2 bpg, 1.6 tpg, .421 FG%, .387 3P%, 1st Team All Big East

Henry Ellenson: 5 star PF, top rated FR in Big East

Kris Dunn: 15.6 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 7.5 apg, 2.7 spg, 0.3 bpg, 4.2 tpg, .474 FG%, .351 3P%, Co BE POY

Angel Delgado: 9.3 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.3 bpg, 1.3 tpg, .555 FG%, .000 3P%, BE ROY

Darien Williams: 16.1 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.8 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.9 bpg, .512 FG%, .411 3P% (for Iowa Western CC)

Ryan Arcidiacono: 10.1 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.1 spg, 0.1 bpg, 1.3 tpg, .394 FG%, .372 3P%, Co BE POY

Trevon Bluiett: 11.0 ppg, 4.2 RPG, 1.9 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.1 bpg, 1.4 tpg, .422 FG%, .326 3P%, BE All Rookie Team

FWIW, I picked D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera.

Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: DJO's Jaw on October 09, 2015, 06:48:31 AM
Probably Kris Dunn. A lot of people have him picked for their national player of the year already, so I think he'd have to have a very bad year or someone would have to blow him out of the water for him not to win Big East POY.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Loose Cannon on October 09, 2015, 08:33:48 AM


 I'm taking Henry.  I'm a big fan of THIS team and think his surrounding players will make it easier for Henry to display his skills.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: bilsu on October 09, 2015, 08:37:40 AM
I picked Henry.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on October 09, 2015, 08:51:43 AM
Rooting for Henry (or any MU player) - but Dunn is a special player and my pick.  Considering Providence has little around him, and is still being picked to finish in the half of the Big East, it shows how valuable and skillful he is to the Friars.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: brewcity77 on October 09, 2015, 09:46:16 AM
Put me down for DSR. Georgetown should be one of the top two in the league this year and he's the clear standout on that team. I like Dunn, but I don't think the team is good enough. Last year Henton helped a lot, this year I think they look like a fringe NCAA team.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: frozena pizza on October 09, 2015, 10:36:19 AM
Hate to say it but I had to go with Smith-Rivera.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Eldon on October 09, 2015, 10:58:33 AM
I also went with my man DSR. 

I hesitated because of the options of Dunn and Billy Garrett Jr. (BGJ)

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but didn't BGJ go on an absolute tear the final stretch of the season, say, the last five games of the season.  I seem to remember him absolutely DOMINATING DePaul games toward the end of the season.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: GooooMarquette on October 09, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
I went with Dunn, but my second pick would have been Smith-Rivera.  IMHO, Dunn is the better player, but DSR is the best player on the better team.  The winner might depend on which the voters think is more important.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 09, 2015, 12:31:07 PM
A lot of prognosticators are alternating between Marquette and Providence for finishing fifth in the Big East with most thinking five Big East teams will make the tournament.  So, whoever has the best year between Henry and Dunn could decide which team goes to the big dance.  I hope not.  I think that experience makes Dunn getting POY much more likely than Henry.

I'm guessing that the one vote for "other" was for Jalen Brunson.  Jalen Reynolds of Xavier and Isaac Copeland of Georgetown are two other guys listed as second most likely on their teams who might break through.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: brewcity77 on October 09, 2015, 04:38:46 PM
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but didn't BGJ go on an absolute tear the final stretch of the season, say, the last five games of the season.  I seem to remember him absolutely DOMINATING DePaul games toward the end of the season.

DePaul also lost their last 8 games and 11 of their last 12. The POY will come from a winning team. Maybe Leitao will get them back to winning, but it won't be a one year turnaround.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 09, 2015, 04:51:47 PM
Dunn this year reminds me of Marshon Brooks in 2011. Outstanding player with nothing around him. Outside of Bentil Providence returns absolutely no offense, and Bentil isn't exactly bringing back huge numbers himself. 
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Hubert Davis on October 11, 2015, 07:28:12 PM
Where is the option for Duane Wilson?
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 11, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
Where is the option for Duane Wilson?

He's right at the bottom. He's labeled as "Other"
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 11, 2015, 08:42:43 PM
He's right at the bottom. He's labeled as "Other"

Bluiett averaged less points and assists than Duane not sure he should be on here if Duane isn't
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 11, 2015, 09:15:18 PM
Du is the Forgotten Warrior.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 12, 2015, 08:25:28 AM
Bluiett averaged less points and assists than Duane not sure he should be on here if Duane isn't

Because I picked the best player from each team.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Zephyr820 on October 12, 2015, 09:32:27 AM
Roosevelt Jones is going to end up winning POY.  He basically does everything and Butler will be right there for the championship. And hes a senior which voters tend to lean towards.
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 12, 2015, 10:34:28 AM
Because I picked the best player from each team.

gotcha. 
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: barfolomew on October 12, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
I also am going with DSR because of Providence's team outlook being less rosy than Gtown's.

I think it would be a REAL stretch for the coaches to vote a freshman as POY since they'd have to give him the ROY award as well. Even if he might deserve it (which HE might).
Title: Re: Way Too Early Big East Player of the Year
Post by: MU82 on October 13, 2015, 11:08:41 AM
Derrick!

No, wait ...

Dawson!!

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