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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on October 05, 2015, 10:05:18 PM
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http://www.basketballinsiders.com/former-teammate-shares-lopez-twins-stories/
Former Teammate Shares Lopez Twins Stories
In March of 2008, Brook dropped 30 points and a game-winning baseline hook-floater against Marquette in the NCAA’s South Regional. Johnson, a Pac-10 Coach of the Year, was ejected before halftime. It was huge moment for Brook, and a dramatic win for Stanford. The aftermath, though, was priceless.
“We played Marquette in Sweet 16, Trent got kicked out of that game, broke a TV in the locker room. We hit the game-winner, it was dope. Everyone was excited,” Goods, who recorded seven points and five boards, recalled with a smile that lit up his face.
After beating Marquette, Stanford was rewarded with some free time in L.A. and each player received about $90 per diem. The next morning while on the bus, Robin approached Brook asking to borrow $20. “What for?” said Brook, “We just got paid.” Robin replied, “I know, but I spent $81 at the comic book store.”
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If Lopez missed that hook shot, and MU moved on in the tourney ... would Crean have left that spring (like he did)? If not, would we have been looking at a vast different future (after 2008) than we actually had?
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If Lopez missed that hook shot, and MU moved on in the tourney ... would Crean have left that spring (like he did)? If not, would we have been looking at a vast different future (after 2008) than we actually had?
Ah, the joys of chaos theory. Let me drop a line to Benny Q in the parallel dimension where Sideshow missed the hook shot, and I'll get back to you.
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If Lopez missed that hook shot, and MU moved on in the tourney ... would Crean have left that spring (like he did)? If not, would we have been looking at a vast different future (after 2008) than we actually had?
Weren't getting enough clicks for your liking so 11 hours later you had to ask Scoopers for story time?
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This is still, for me, the most I can remember being upset after a loss.
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This is still, for me, the most I can remember being upset after a loss.
I wasn't into MU until the following year, but it can't be worse than the Washington loss in 2010 we blew a 16 maybe 18pt lead in 6minutes.
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I wasn't into MU until the following year, but it can't be worse than the Washington loss in 2010 we blew a 16 maybe 18pt lead in 6minutes.
It absolutely was worse. That 09-10 team overachieved in a major way.
The year they lost to Stanford was the only year outside of their freshman year, where the Big 3 were healthy going into the tournament. They had several chances to win that game and didn't. Not to mention Crean's insane lack of adjustments defensively when the Lopii got the frontcourt in foul trouble.
That's the worst I've ever felt after a MU loss. And I've seen some doozies.
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My wife and I were in Tokyo visiting our son, so for me the game was played at something like 3AM. Watched it in the hotel room on my computer while Japan slept - all but those awakened by my screams of agony, anyway. We wasted a boatload of luck (4 technical free throws and Stanford's coach's dismissal) and a great performance by Jerel because we refused to pressure their very average guards - who fed the post time after time for easy baskets. Later in the tourney Texas turned over Stanford's backcourt repeatedly and crushed them by about 20. No adjustments, beaten by an assistant coach on the big stage - a fitting finale for TC at MU.
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It absolutely was worse. That 09-10 team overachieved in a major way.
The year they lost to Stanford was the only year outside of their freshman year, where the Big 3 were healthy going into the tournament. They had several chances to win that game and didn't. Not to mention Crean's insane lack of adjustments defensively when the Lopii got the frontcourt in foul trouble.
That's the worst I've ever felt after a MU loss. And I've seen some doozies.
Gotcha. Guess I'll just never know how painful that game must've been.
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The Mizzou game the year before was the only game more difficult to swallow for me, just because I knew if we beat them we would've beat an overrated Memphis team and had a chance at the Final Four if Dominic James could've gotten back to anywhere near the player he was before he broke his foot.
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Weren't getting enough clicks for your liking so 11 hours later you had to ask Scoopers for story time?
Yes, and it worked ... which is why I'm one of the most important posters here
You're welcome
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Yes, and it worked ... which is why I'm one of the most important posters here
You're welcome
Yeah, no doubt. Over 8,000 registered posters and you have started about 4% of all threads on MUScoop, with nearly 1,500 threads started.
Congratulations. Keep up the good work. I sense an MUScoop MVP and future Hall of Fame career on the horizon for you. Your stats are looking impressive.
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Yes, and it worked ... which is why I'm one of the most important posters here
You're welcome
Sometimes, I can't tell whether your ego to self-awareness ratio is really that vast...
... or if you're actually Benny's longest of long cons.
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Yeah, no doubt. Over 8,000 registered posters and you have started about 4% of all threads on MUScoop, with nearly 1,500 threads started.
Congratulations. Keep up the good work. I sense an MUScoop MVP and future Hall of Fame career on the horizon for you. Your stats are looking impressive.
It's surprising that Crean to Ann Arbor, Sultan and Brewcity have all posted more than Heisenberg in less time.
He is certainly closing in on Chicos record for most topics. Of course Chicos did that in close to 10 years not like 6.
Also MUscoop's gotta start advertising it's on pace for it's least amount of new posters since it's inception.
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Yeah, no doubt. Over 8,000 registered posters and you have started about 4% of all threads on MUScoop, with nearly 1,500 threads started.
Congratulations. Keep up the good work. I sense an MUScoop MVP and future Hall of Fame career on the horizon for you. Your stats are looking impressive.
I think Heisenberg is a valuable poster and I enjoy the links he posts and the spurs to discussion.
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It's surprising that Crean to Ann Arbor, Sultan and Brewcity have all posted more than Heisenberg in less time.
He is certainly closing in on Chicos record for most topics. Of course Chicos did that in close to 10 years not like 6.
Also MUscoop's gotta start advertising it's on pace for it's least amount of new posters since it's inception.
Chico's is more impressive since his suspensions have totaled approximately 2 years.
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I think Heisenberg is a valuable poster and I enjoy the links he posts and the spurs to discussion.
+1
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The maddest I've ever been after a loss is when we had that colossal collapse at Louisville. I don't remember particulars, but I think it was when Buycks went for a basket instead of running clock...this after we blew a massive lead.
Not 10 minutes after the game I found myself screaming at a bicyclist who cut me off. Clear rage.
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The maddest I've ever been after a loss is when we had that colossal collapse at Louisville. I don't remember particulars, but I think it was when Buycks went for a basket instead of running clock...this after we blew a massive lead.
Not 10 minutes after the game I found myself screaming at a bicyclist who cut me off. Clear rage.
It was harder because the same thing happened against Vandy like a week earlier.
65-47 5:30 to go.
I think for me during the regular season it'd be 2010 vs WVU Ebanks hit's that three pointer, or the first 2010 vs Nova game Scottie Reynolds around Lazar behind his back between his legs for a pull up jumper.
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I wasn't into MU until the following year, but it can't be worse than the Washington loss in 2010 we blew a 16 maybe 18pt lead in 6minutes.
I was around for both, and the Stanford loss was much, much worse.
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The entire seasons for my junior and senior years. Going from an elite 8 to nothing was brutal.
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Yes, and it worked ... which is why I'm one of the most important posters here
You're welcome
Um, Dunks45 is the most important poster here. Then Big Daddy.
Anyone who reads the sports section of the South Bend Tribune on Sunday mornings in the fall is not relevant.
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This is still, for me, the most I can remember being upset after a loss.
Not even close!
1978 -- Miami of Ohio. Defending National Champion. Most of team (except for Bo) back. Best or second best team in the nation (depending on the week). Furious for weeks.
1969 -- Regional Final at Madison, WI. Playing Purdue and down by 1 point with NO time left. We're at the free-throw line. Hit 'em both and we go to the Final Four. We made one of two and lost to Purdue on a Rick Mount long, long jumper with seconds left in the game. Depressed as much as I was when Green Bay gave up a 4th and 26 and lost to Philadelphia. It was as if Dallas' Defense made a magnificent stand in the Ice Bowl and denied Bart Starr. In short, this one hurt.
1985(?) -- The Arena vs. North Carolina. Had a few bad years. Rick Majerus was head coach. Dean brought the Tar Heels into town to play before Joe Wolf's family. We led the vast majority of the game before we succumbed in the last minutes of the game. Had we won, much of the misery of the past few years would have been forgotten. Instead we lost and we ended up with Bob Dukiet two years later! The relevance of this game was far greater than anyone thought.
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Um, Dunks45 is the most important poster here. Then Big Daddy.
Anyone who reads the sports section of the South Bend Tribune on Sunday mornings in the fall is not relevant.
Why would I do that? I go to Sunday brunch with a bunch of over-weight self-important 50+ Irish fans and they fill me in on everything I need.
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Why would I do that? I go to Sunday brunch with a bunch of over-weight self-important 50+ Irish fans and they fill me in on everything I need.
That explains everything.
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Yeah, no doubt. Over 8,000 registered posters and you have started about 4% of all threads on MUScoop, with nearly 1,500 threads started.
Congratulations. Keep up the good work. I sense an MUScoop MVP and future Hall of Fame career on the horizon for you. Your stats are looking impressive.
I rarely read a thread that makes it to the third page. By that point they have strayed so far from the original post they no longer reflect it.
I think the perfect post has 20 to 40 responses and ends on page 2. Yes their are expectations.
So instead of adding to page 3 of an off-topic thread, I start new ones.
Now, I have no started a poll in a while. Do you want to whine about that too?
(FYI, I once started a poll about me starting polls too. The results were for me to keep doing it.)
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Also MUscoop's gotta start advertising it's on pace for it's least amount of new posters since it's inception.
You'll notice the big drop happened after July. We installed new software in July, along with upgrading to the new reCAPTCHA "I'm not a robot" check on registrations. The registration numbers had been inflated by spambots, and we're not getting those anymore (Sorry to all the uggs fans).
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You'll notice the big drop happened after July. We installed new software in July, along with upgrading to the new reCAPTCHA "I'm not a robot" check on registrations. The registration numbers had been inflated by spambots, and we're not getting those anymore (Sorry to all the uggs fans).
Darn I got some great deals on cheap knock off uggs!
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I rarely read a thread that makes it to the third page. By that point they have strayed so far from the original post they no longer reflect it.
I think the perfect post has 20 to 40 responses and ends on page 2. Yes their are expectations.
So instead of adding to page 3 of an off-topic thread, I start new ones.
Now, I have no started a poll in a while. Do you want to whine about that too?
(FYI, I once started a poll about me starting polls too. The results were for me to keep doing it.)
Who's whining? You're one of the most important posters here.
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Who's whining? You're one of the most important posters here.
Did you forget to use teal?
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Did you forget to use teal?
;)
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Um, Dunks45 is the most important poster here. Then Big Daddy.
Anyone who reads the sports section of the South Bend Tribune on Sunday mornings in the fall is not relevant.
Blasphemy. No one provides more entertainment value per post than UDPride.
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Not even close!
1978 -- Miami of Ohio. Defending National Champion. Most of team (except for Bo) back. Best or second best team in the nation (depending on the week). Furious for weeks.
1969 -- Regional Final at Madison, WI. Playing Purdue and down by 1 point with NO time left. We're at the free-throw line. Hit 'em both and we go to the Final Four. We made one of two and lost to Purdue on a Rick Mount long, long jumper with seconds left in the game. Depressed as much as I was when Green Bay gave up a 4th and 26 and lost to Philadelphia. It was as if Dallas' Defense made a magnificent stand in the Ice Bowl and denied Bart Starr. In short, this one hurt.
1985(?) -- The Arena vs. North Carolina. Had a few bad years. Rick Majerus was head coach. Dean brought the Tar Heels into town to play before Joe Wolf's family. We led the vast majority of the game before we succumbed in the last minutes of the game. Had we won, much of the misery of the past few years would have been forgotten. Instead we lost and we ended up with Bob Dukiet two years later! The relevance of this game was far greater than anyone thought.
Agree with all of the above but if you're going to include the Purdue game, you have to also include the '71 tourney game against Ohio St. The Dream (1st team AA), Allie, Chones, Brell, etc. Ranked #2 behind Wooden's UCLA. The Dream fouled out with 4 off. fouls. which Al noted as only Al can in the post-game presser. Still had chance to win with last shot. Hank draws up perfect inbounds play giving Allie a baseline double screen with clear path to the hoop for a layup. Allie steps on baseline as he makes his cut. Game over, final score 60-59. Wanted UCLA so bad that year I could taste bruin meat. Al said that team was best ever, better than '77 champs.
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Agree with all of the above but if you're going to include the Purdue game, you have to also include the '71 tourney game against Ohio St. The Dream (1st team AA), Allie, Chones, Brell, etc. Ranked #2 behind Wooden's UCLA. The Dream fouled out with 4 off. fouls. which Al noted as only Al can in the post-game presser. Still had chance to win with last shot. Hank draws up perfect inbounds play giving Allie a baseline double screen with clear path to the hoop for a layup. Allie steps on baseline as he makes his cut. Game over, final score 60-59. Wanted UCLA so bad that year I could taste bruin meat. Al said that team was best ever, better than '77 champs.
was that the year chones left early?
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Chones left the following year - they would not have been ranked #2 at the end of year without him. They would have been seriously good in the tourney that year as well had he not left, albeit not as good though without The Dream.
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Not even close!
1978 -- Miami of Ohio. Defending National Champion. Most of team (except for Bo) back. Best or second best team in the nation (depending on the week). Furious for weeks.
1969 -- Regional Final at Madison, WI. Playing Purdue and down by 1 point with NO time left. We're at the free-throw line. Hit 'em both and we go to the Final Four. We made one of two and lost to Purdue on a Rick Mount long, long jumper with seconds left in the game. Depressed as much as I was when Green Bay gave up a 4th and 26 and lost to Philadelphia. It was as if Dallas' Defense made a magnificent stand in the Ice Bowl and denied Bart Starr. In short, this one hurt.
1985(?) -- The Arena vs. North Carolina. Had a few bad years. Rick Majerus was head coach. Dean brought the Tar Heels into town to play before Joe Wolf's family. We led the vast majority of the game before we succumbed in the last minutes of the game. Had we won, much of the misery of the past few years would have been forgotten. Instead we lost and we ended up with Bob Dukiet two years later! The relevance of this game was far greater than anyone thought.
I'm glad that I read the whole thread before I responded to Stanford being the worst loss, I would have said that anyone who didn't say the 1978 game simply couldn't have been a fan until after then.
Jerome Whitehead practically got his eyes poked out multiple times and no foul until he swung his elbows to protect his vision. IIRC, he first tried covering up his face to protect himself which failed to serve as a clue to the officials that he was being mugged. Whitehead gets ejected for a fragrant foul by official Peter Pavia, then when Raymonds tries to complain that the officials have let the game get out of hand, he gets hit with a technical for arguing the call which he wasn't even doing. Furious for weeks? I still cannot let it go.
Raymonds was a gentleman in the truest sense of the word. At minimum, Al would have been thrown out. The story below is about a chance meeting between Raymonds and Pavia a week later. The reaction of the people around them when they saw that the two were about to bump into each other says it all about just how controversial Pavia's calls were. (They ran into each in Rochester New York!)
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19780321&id=458oAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hykEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4836,145860&hl=en (https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19780321&id=458oAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hykEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4836,145860&hl=en)
I'm going to throw out an honorable mention for the final four game in 2003. Probably because I was there. It's probably not made a list yet because it was a blow out... from the start... after we had just beaten Kentucky... which was ranked number one... by fourteen points... aaaaaagh
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If Lopez missed that hook shot, and MU moved on in the tourney ... would Crean have left that spring (like he did)? If not, would we have been looking at a vast different future (after 2008) than we actually had?
Thankfully, Lopez hit that shot, ai na?
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Agree with all of the above but if you're going to include the Purdue game, you have to also include the '71 tourney game against Ohio St. The Dream (1st team AA), Allie, Chones, Brell, etc. Ranked #2 behind Wooden's UCLA. The Dream fouled out with 4 off. fouls. which Al noted as only Al can in the post-game presser. Still had chance to win with last shot. Hank draws up perfect inbounds play giving Allie a baseline double screen with clear path to the hoop for a layup. Allie steps on baseline as he makes his cut. Game over, final score 60-59. Wanted UCLA so bad that year I could taste bruin meat. Al said that team was best ever, better than '77 champs.
I was in attendance at that game in Athens, GA. The reality of one and done in the Tournament was witnessed up close and personal. Hung 'round to see the Warriors take down Adolph and Payne in the meaningless regional consolation game. Then, it was a long ass ride back to MKE, hey?
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You'll notice the big drop happened after July. We installed new software in July, along with upgrading to the new reCAPTCHA "I'm not a robot" check on registrations. The registration numbers had been inflated by spambots, and we're not getting those anymore (Sorry to all the uggs fans).
'Bout the time Keefer stopped posting Israeli soldier profiles, non è?
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Agree with all of the above but if you're going to include the Purdue game, you have to also include the '71 tourney game against Ohio St. The Dream (1st team AA), Allie, Chones, Brell, etc. Ranked #2 behind Wooden's UCLA. The Dream fouled out with 4 off. fouls. which Al noted as only Al can in the post-game presser. Still had chance to win with last shot. Hank draws up perfect inbounds play giving Allie a baseline double screen with clear path to the hoop for a layup. Allie steps on baseline as he makes his cut. Game over, final score 60-59. Wanted UCLA so bad that year I could taste bruin meat. Al said that team was best ever, better than '77 champs.
That's a game I try, try, try to forget about. You're right. The team was great and we got jobbed that night in Athens, GA. I think the team voted the refs from the Ohio State game to the all-opponent team that year.
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At minimum, Al would have been thrown out.
No, Al probably would have killed Peter Pavia. And then he would have accused the NCAA of having a conspiracy against him and Marquette. Which it did.
Al would never had let that game get that far out of control. Never, ever, never.
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http://www.basketballinsiders.com/former-teammate-shares-lopez-twins-stories/
Former Teammate Shares Lopez Twins Stories
In March of 2008, Brook dropped 30 points and a game-winning baseline hook-floater against Marquette in the NCAA’s South Regional. Johnson, a Pac-10 Coach of the Year, was ejected before halftime. It was huge moment for Brook, and a dramatic win for Stanford. The aftermath, though, was priceless.
“We played Marquette in Sweet 16, Trent got kicked out of that game, broke a TV in the locker room. We hit the game-winner, it was dope. Everyone was excited,” Goods, who recorded seven points and five boards, recalled with a smile that lit up his face.
After beating Marquette, Stanford was rewarded with some free time in L.A. and each player received about $90 per diem. The next morning while on the bus, Robin approached Brook asking to borrow $20. “What for?” said Brook, “We just got paid.” Robin replied, “I know, but I spent $81 at the comic book store.”
Glad to see that they remember what they did after so well but not the actual round that it happened. This game was a second round game. They got pounded by Texas in the Sweet 16.
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We should really break this down.
Most painful, heartwrenching losses:
Sideshow Bob and Cecil
Muther fu@kin' Jerry Smith.
D-James foul on Wallace's three.
Butler, Maui 2012
Most embarrassing losses:
Blowing an 18 point lead to Louisville with less than 6:00.
Not scoring for the first 10 minutes vs. Moo U
Most painful and embarrassing losses:
Miami-oh
Florida
Kansas
[Disclaimer: Not a complete list. For demonstration purposes only.]
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No, Al probably would have killed Peter Pavia. And then he would have accused the NCAA of having a conspiracy against him and Marquette. Which it did.
Al would never had let that game get that far out of control. Never, ever, never.
Yeah, on reflection, Al would have gotten his technical way before Whitehead got ejected, and the game would have been much more under control. Sometimes, the gentlemanly way don't get it done.
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I think Heisenberg is a valuable poster and I enjoy the links he posts and the spurs to discussion.
Yeah, but there's definitely some yin to Heisenberg's yang.
Cue 4ever.
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Yes their are expectations.
Where the hell is Bee Jay or someone else from the Grammar Police when you need them?
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This is still, for me, the most I can remember being upset after a loss.
I was stuck in a bar in Mexico filled with nothing but vacationing Stanford fans. It was the worst.
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My wife and I were in Tokyo visiting our son, so for me the game was played at something like 3AM. Watched it in the hotel room on my computer while Japan slept
I can assure you, Leonard, that there is a slice of Tokyo still going strong at 0300..You obviously were not doing Tokyo right...
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Yes their are expectations.
Where the hell is Bee Jay or someone else from the Grammar Police when you need them?
I believe you mean the Vocabulary Police. 8-)