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Title: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: MuMark on October 02, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
@AdamZagoria: Book Alleges Louisville Hired Hookers to Woo Recruits & Their Fathers http://t.co/l12kSmFu9Q
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 02, 2015, 04:13:50 PM
Any y'all regret not bein' 6'8" and perks that seem to come with it, hey?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 02, 2015, 04:24:41 PM
Sounds like Porcini's was offering a family style buffet too, non è?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: MuMark on October 02, 2015, 04:29:09 PM
Can't believe he left the moms out of the festivities.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 02, 2015, 04:34:39 PM
Can't believe he left the moms out of the festivities.

Maybe he took care of them with a bit more of a personal touch.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: MuMark on October 02, 2015, 04:54:17 PM
@jeffborzello: Tom Jurich asked at the press conference if he thinks Indiana turned Louisville in: "No comment."
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: tower912 on October 02, 2015, 04:57:53 PM
Squirmy.   
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 02, 2015, 05:01:25 PM
Pitino recruits were known for their early entries.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 02, 2015, 05:04:38 PM
Maybe he took care of them with a bit more of a personal touch.

As much as I hated Louisville fans at the Bradley Center, there were always some good looking ladies there. They don't call him slick Rick for nothing.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Cooby Snacks on October 02, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
@jeffborzello: Tom Jurich asked at the press conference if he thinks Indiana turned Louisville in: "No comment."

Crean with the slow play on payback for the fake quote "scandal" of '04.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 02, 2015, 06:06:50 PM
If Crean is behind this it constitutes a new low...other than giving his son all awards at his own camp and holding a press conference to announce he was pledging $100k to a soccer stadium and backing out of the deal. Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 02, 2015, 06:45:09 PM
No wonder we lost the McCray bros. to UL, hey?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 02, 2015, 06:53:18 PM
Sounds like Porcini's was offering a family style buffet too, non è?

 The University of Louisville said Friday it has launched an investigation into allegations that former Cardinals staffer Andre McGee paid an escort service to provide sex for recruits.

The allegations by Katina Powell are in an upcoming book, "Breaking Cardinal Rules: Basketball and the Escort Queen" from a publishing arm of the Indianapolis Business Journal. Some details of the book were published on the Journal's web site, and said that McGee hired Powell to provide strippers and prostitutes for recruits and some of their fathers during a four-year period.

"To say I'm shocked is an understatement," Pitino said during a news conference Friday. "You know the allegations. Now we have to find the truth."

Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 02, 2015, 06:53:51 PM
MU's staff was confident Damion Lee would visit MU after Louisville.  He did not and instead committed to 'ville right away.  I guess 'ville must have blown him away!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 02, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
If Crean is behind this it constitutes a new low...other than giving his son all awards at his own camp and holding a press conference to announce he was pledging $100k to a soccer stadium and backing out of the deal. Did I miss something?

Why would Tom Crean whistle blowing a disgusting and illegal recruiting practice be a new low?

Not sure how he could be involved. The woman in charge of the escort service is writing the book
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 02, 2015, 06:59:23 PM
Disgusting, shameful, but they are hardly the only school that had done this
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 02, 2015, 07:23:19 PM
Why would Tom Crean whistle blowing a disgusting and illegal recruiting practice be a new low?

Not sure how he could be involved. The woman in charge of the escort service is writing the book
And an Indiana booster is publishing the book...written by a prostitute.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 02, 2015, 07:24:35 PM
Crean with the slow play on payback for the fake quote "scandal" of '04.

LOL. Forgot about that one until now!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 02, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
And an Indiana booster is publishing the book...written by a prostitute.

And why is this a low for Tom Crean?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 02, 2015, 07:56:59 PM
And why is this a low for Tom Crean?
Maybe it isn't. He can go lower.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: NavinRJohnson on October 02, 2015, 08:08:17 PM
The indiana element of this is just weird. More likely non-element, but weird none the less.

I've never been less excited for a college bball season...ok maybe last yeR when MU was so bad, but I am just tired of the whole thing. The NCAA, the coaches, sad pathetic fan bases. It's all just so ridiculous.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: tower912 on October 02, 2015, 08:14:41 PM
http://www.scout.com/college/indiana/forums/2353-hoosier-basketball/14147095-iu-releases-statement-regarding-louisville-situation

IU feels the need to deny involvement.   
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 02, 2015, 08:24:59 PM
That being said, couldn't have happened to a nicer program...Louisville can go rot in hell with Wisconsin and ND for all I care.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GGGG on October 02, 2015, 08:26:38 PM
If Crean is behind this it constitutes a new low...other than giving his son all awards at his own camp and holding a press conference to announce he was pledging $100k to a soccer stadium and backing out of the deal. Did I miss something?


Sorry to dampen your Crean hate woody, but he wasn't behind it.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2015/10/02/iu-were-not-involved-louisville-escort-scandal/73244018/
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GGGG on October 02, 2015, 08:27:26 PM
And a special shout out to Ners for inspiring me to use the phrase "hate woody."
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 02, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
From Zag's article.

"In no way would anyone at this institution condone the alleged activities."

Humm, eh anyone?

I once knew someone who worked in the international department of a baby bell.  The head of the unit made it clear to those working directly under him that paying bribes would be a necessary evil to get international business, but that he wouldn't be the one offering them and there could be no reimbursement.  And, of course, if they didn't get enough international contracts, the department would have to downsize.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on October 02, 2015, 08:36:44 PM
And a special shout out to Ners for inspiring me to use the phrase "hate woody."
I think Willie coined that particular term?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GGGG on October 02, 2015, 08:39:54 PM
I think Willie coined that particular term?


Oh yeah.  Ah well.  willie, Ners, they all run together.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: tower912 on October 02, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
Earliest usage I can find is January 14, 2014, by Willie, directed toward MU82 about his attitude toward non-alum.   
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: jesmu84 on October 02, 2015, 08:51:36 PM
Why would Tom Crean whistle blowing a disgusting and illegal recruiting practice be a new low?

Not sure how he could be involved. The woman in charge of the escort service is writing the book

Louisville AD said they first heard about it when a senior athletic department person from IU called Louisville athletic department inquiring about the situation.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 02, 2015, 08:57:24 PM
Let's see, if the NCAA finds a violation serious enough for a postseason ban, the ACC schools won't be able to take 'Ville transfers, this could be a boom for Big East schools.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 02, 2015, 09:08:31 PM
And an Indiana booster is publishing the book...written by a prostitute.

Yes, written by a prostitute who happens to name not only Andre McGee but evidently players who were involved.  Truth is a defense to libel.  If Katina Powell (and the publisher) aren't sued up the wazoo for this book, I think the clear implication is that what she says is not only true, but she can prove it.

More from the story in the Indianapolis Business journal.

"Powell paid no upfront costs. IBJ Book Publishing covered the expenses involved in producing the book, including paying investigators and reporters to vet her story, handling layout and design of the book, and printing, company officials said.

Former Indianapolis Star investigative reporter and Pulitzer Prize winner Dick Cady was hired by IBJ Book Publishing to help flesh out the story and co-write the book with Powell.

“We think this story will have national impact and we felt having someone work on it who is a Pulitzer winner gives credibility to the project,” said Patricia Keiffner, publisher of IBJ Book Publishing.

The book contains several photos of Powell and other dancers with McGee and various high school and Louisville players."

http://www.ibj.com/articles/55155-book-louisville-hired-prostitutes-to-woo-basketball-recruits (http://www.ibj.com/articles/55155-book-louisville-hired-prostitutes-to-woo-basketball-recruits)

The term institutional control keeps popping up in my head.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: keefe on October 02, 2015, 09:30:21 PM
From Zag's article.

"In no way would anyone at this institution condone the alleged activities."

Humm, eh anyone?

I once knew someone who worked in the international department of a baby bell.  The head of the unit made it clear to those working directly under him that paying bribes would be a necessary evil to get international business, but that he wouldn't be the one offering them and there could be no reimbursement.  And, of course, if they didn't get enough international contracts, the department would have to downsize.

In Indonesia that line item in the P&L was called, "facilitation."

FCPA...
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 02, 2015, 10:42:36 PM
Yes, written by a prostitute who happens to name not only Andre McGee but evidently players who were involved.  Truth is a defense to libel.  If Katina Powell (and the publisher) aren't sued up the wazoo for this book, I think the clear implication is that what she says is not only true, but she can prove it.

More from the story in the Indianapolis Business journal.

"Powell paid no upfront costs. IBJ Book Publishing covered the expenses involved in producing the book, including paying investigators and reporters to vet her story, handling layout and design of the book, and printing, company officials said.

Former Indianapolis Star investigative reporter and Pulitzer Prize winner Dick Cady was hired by IBJ Book Publishing to help flesh out the story and co-write the book with Powell.

“We think this story will have national impact and we felt having someone work on it who is a Pulitzer winner gives credibility to the project,” said Patricia Keiffner, publisher of IBJ Book Publishing.

The book contains several photos of Powell and other dancers with McGee and various high school and Louisville players."

http://www.ibj.com/articles/55155-book-louisville-hired-prostitutes-to-woo-basketball-recruits (http://www.ibj.com/articles/55155-book-louisville-hired-prostitutes-to-woo-basketball-recruits)

The term institutional control keeps popping up in my head.
An Indiana booster paid a prostitute, hired investigators and "fleshed out" the story? Nice!

She's liable to get Camper of the Year!

Heard Louisville has a couple 5 stars in town for a visit this weekend. Think Pitino showed up at their homes in a limo at midnight?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: jesmu84 on October 02, 2015, 11:27:57 PM
@BrianHamiltonSI: Reporter: “Rick, you said you don’t believe the allegations…”

Rick Pitino: “I didn’t say that.”

Well then...
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: willie warrior on October 03, 2015, 07:22:40 AM
And a special shout out to Ners for inspiring me to use the phrase "hate woody."
C'mon Sultan, you know that I coined the hate woody noun.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: willie warrior on October 03, 2015, 07:24:21 AM
Earliest usage I can find is January 14, 2014, by Willie, directed toward MU82 about his attitude toward non-alum.
Yes, thank you. BTW, sorta like Sultan and Buzz run together.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: willie warrior on October 03, 2015, 07:26:17 AM
@BrianHamiltonSI: Reporter: “Rick, you said you don’t believe the allegations…”

Rick Pitino: “I didn’t say that.”

Well then...
Pitino is a slime ball. Can't wait for Vitale to come to the defense of his paisan. Meanwhile, Pitino claims he has no idea this was going on! Slick Rick. What a piece of work.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: LloydsLegs on October 03, 2015, 08:43:44 AM
Yes, written by a prostitute who happens to name not only Andre McGee but evidently players who were involved.  Truth is a defense to libel.  If Katina Powell (and the publisher) aren't sued up the wazoo for this book, I think the clear implication is that what she says is not only true, but she can prove it.

More from the story in the Indianapolis Business journal.

"Powell paid no upfront costs. IBJ Book Publishing covered the expenses involved in producing the book, including paying investigators and reporters to vet her story, handling layout and design of the book, and printing, company officials said.

Former Indianapolis Star investigative reporter and Pulitzer Prize winner Dick Cady was hired by IBJ Book Publishing to help flesh out the story and co-write the book with Powell.

“We think this story will have national impact and we felt having someone work on it who is a Pulitzer winner gives credibility to the project,” said Patricia Keiffner, publisher of IBJ Book Publishing.

The book contains several photos of Powell and other dancers with McGee and various high school and Louisville players."

http://www.ibj.com/articles/55155-book-louisville-hired-prostitutes-to-woo-basketball-recruits (http://www.ibj.com/articles/55155-book-louisville-hired-prostitutes-to-woo-basketball-recruits)

The term institutional control keeps popping up in my head.

So, a book written by a prostitute is being published by a company called IBJ? 
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 03, 2015, 08:58:08 AM
Quote
I’m surprised McGee worked under Pitino for such a long time. Most only work under him for 15 seconds.

http://deadspin.com/book-claims-louisville-provided-basketball-players-and-1734361954
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: willie warrior on October 03, 2015, 09:29:47 AM
An Indiana booster paid a prostitute, hired investigators and "fleshed out" the story? Nice!

She's liable to get Camper of the Year!

Heard Louisville has a couple 5 stars in town for a visit this weekend. Think Pitino showed up at their homes in a limo at midnight?
If he did, you can bet that a late night snack at Porcini's was on the menu. Table service included!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: T-Bone on October 03, 2015, 09:50:57 AM
So, a book written by a prostitute is being published by a company called IBJ? 
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on October 03, 2015, 10:21:54 AM
@BrianHamiltonSI: Reporter: “Rick, you said you don’t believe the allegations…”

Rick Pitino: “I didn’t say that.”

Well then...

The most telling report regarding the entire situation.  While no one accepted the allegations of Louisville's involvement in this scandal, no one denied anything, at all, whatsoever.  These allegations could have huge ramifications on the Louisville basketball program - to the point where Pitino may step down, the program may serve a postseason ban, vacate wins and a vacate an NCAA Championship.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: jesmu84 on October 03, 2015, 10:45:42 AM
If I were western Kentucky, I'd be terrified right now.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: keefe on October 03, 2015, 12:04:41 PM
The most f#cked up thing is that this woman did this with her three daughters...

"C'mon girls. Finish up your tater tots and get into the minivan. We have some dancin' and f#ckin to do for Coach Pitino"


At the parties, a number of women—including Powell and three of her daughters—stripped and danced in front of the Louisville recruits and players—as well as performed sex acts with them, said Powell.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 03, 2015, 12:13:07 PM
An Indiana booster paid a prostitute, hired investigators and "fleshed out" the story? Nice!

She's liable to get Camper of the Year!

Heard Louisville has a couple 5 stars in town for a visit this weekend. Think Pitino showed up at their homes in a limo at midnight?

Again...so? Is this not a story worth pursuing? Is it not a story that would make IBJ money? Who gives a sh*t if he's an Indiana booster.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 03, 2015, 01:11:38 PM
Has MU ever gone head to head with Louisville and consummated the deal? Keep hearin' Carrie Underwood's "Blown Away" in the background, ai na?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: HouWarrior on October 03, 2015, 01:17:24 PM
Oh no baby, I cant accept that directly... just leave your signed Letter of Intent on the dresser.

PURRRFECT!...Now...Come over here and lick my Cardinal YumYum, baby.

Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: keefe on October 03, 2015, 02:10:28 PM
Has MU ever gone head to head with Louisville

I know MU and UL have gone head to head on the hard wood but it seems like Louisville has a lot of experience with getting head.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 03, 2015, 03:29:47 PM
I know MU and UL have gone head to head on the hard wood but it seems like Louisville has a lot of experience with getting head.

Yes, but Pitino teams are known for their penchant for committing three second violations.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 03, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Yes, but Pitino teams are known for their penchant for committing three second violations.

You call it a violation, I call it efficiency.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Sheriff on October 03, 2015, 03:53:43 PM
This situation is getting as sticky as a Porcini's tablecloth.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 03, 2015, 04:03:16 PM

(http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/louisville-core-values-no-guns-drugs-570x760.jpg)
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Sheriff on October 03, 2015, 04:05:06 PM
#6 - Don't get caught
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Atticus on October 03, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
(http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/louisville-core-values-no-guns-drugs-570x760.jpg)

Meh. Charlie strong had that made. I think there is one hanging from a wall inside UT's football facility.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 03, 2015, 04:56:36 PM
Meh. Charlie strong had that made. I think there is one hanging from a wall inside UT's football facility.

He should of made one for Pitino too.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 03, 2015, 05:25:19 PM
When Louisville wants a recruit I guess they really go after him hard

Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 03, 2015, 06:42:32 PM
Has MU ever gone head to head with Louisville and consummated the deal? Keep hearin' Carrie Underwood's "Blown Away" in the background, ai na?

The last one I remember was Robert Byrd from Chicago.  Before Rick's time, of course.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on October 03, 2015, 07:17:46 PM
Why no photos of this broad and her 3 daughters?  c'mon Scoop, you can do better.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: forgetful on October 03, 2015, 07:20:39 PM
Why no photos of this broad and her 3 daughters?  c'mon Scoop, you can do better.

I did google for photos.  Trust me, no one wants to see them.  Richard could have at least sprung for some higher income call girls. 
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 03, 2015, 08:42:51 PM
Why no photos of this broad and her 3 daughters?  c'mon Scoop, you can do better.

(http://www.ibj.com/ext/resources/IBJ-Daily/00-2015/10-October/rsz_katina_powell---small.jpg)
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: keefe on October 03, 2015, 09:11:20 PM
No wonder we lost the McCray bros. to UL, hey?

I think Majerus walking in on Scooter's trombone solo practice had more to do with the outcome...
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: real chili 83 on October 04, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/katina-powell.jpg

She looks fine and upstanding.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: keefe on October 04, 2015, 10:26:21 AM
other than giving his son all awards at his own camp

Still the most singularly peculiar behavior in the annals of sport.

Any man with a conscience and sense of justice would know intuitively that such a thing would be wrong. Crean is clearly not burdened with any sense of fairness.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Goose on October 05, 2015, 10:07:17 AM
Keefe

Think you nailed losing Scooter on the head. One slip up cost us a few players down the road.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: jesmu84 on October 05, 2015, 10:35:05 AM
http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2015/10/05/louisville-accuser-rick-pitino-knew-about-everything/
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Knight Commission on October 05, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
I have been told by a reliable source that Louisville is not the only Hig D1 program to have enticed bball recruits with prostitutes in its history...this could be the tip of an iceberg.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 05, 2015, 04:21:29 PM
I have been told by a reliable source that Louisville is not the only Hig D1 program to have enticed bball recruits with prostitutes in its history...this could be the tip of an iceberg.

Water is wet.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 05, 2015, 04:30:15 PM
I have been told by a reliable source that Louisville is not the only Hig D1 program to have enticed bball recruits with prostitutes in its history...this could be the tip of an iceberg.
Palpable buzz?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: MUDPT on October 05, 2015, 10:16:05 PM
Palpable buzz?

Ummmm, weren't we recruiting JaQuan Lyle at one point?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2015, 10:32:10 PM
I have been told by a reliable source that Louisville is not the only Hig D1 program to have enticed bball recruits with prostitutes in its history...this could be the tip of an iceberg.

"Gambling at  Bushwood? There's no gambling at Bushwood."
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 06, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
I have been told by a reliable source that Louisville is not the only Hig D1 program to have enticed bball recruits with prostitutes in its history...this could be the tip of an iceberg.

Sounds like a Knight Commission investigation is in the works!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: keefe on October 06, 2015, 10:16:49 AM
Keefe

Think you nailed losing Scooter on the head. One slip up cost us a few players down the road.

Probably the most singularly bizarre reason for losing a recruiting battle.

Scooter lost a hard on. Marquette lost its perch at the top.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2015, 11:46:18 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25331355/ex-louisville-recruit-jaquan-lyle-confirms-escort-allegations-for-ncaa

A former Louisville commit is now confirming the allegations. It certainly doesn't look good for Slick Rick
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Tom Jurich is really in a f*cked up place right now.  If he does what he thinks is right and forces Pitino out, he better warm up his resume. 
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
This is honestly the best thread of the offseason. I would love to see the demise of Louisville.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2015, 02:11:54 PM
Also, the Louisville scout message board is going insane right now. People claiming conspiracy theories everywhere. Feel free to make some popcorn before reading.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 08, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
This is honestly the best thread of the offseason. I would love to see the demise of Louisville.

Could this blow-up fast enough to sink this season with penalties and/or sanctions?

Or will these too take months and months/year of investigation/recommendations/appeals/discussions ... like the UNC phantom class scandal?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2015, 04:07:56 PM
This *should* be relatively easy to figure out.  The UNC class scandal was a something worse because it was so systemic, but because it was systemic, it has been hard for the NCAA to rule.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2015, 04:18:56 PM
Also, the Louisville scout message board is going insane right now. People claiming conspiracy theories everywhere. Feel free to make some popcorn before reading.

You aren't kidding. They're talking about how Jaquan Lyle needs to be sued for slander. Half seem to be in the "this is all a lie" camp, the other half is in the "big Fing deal. We're motherloving Louisville, we'll keep winning and recruits will keep coming" camp.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2015, 04:26:04 PM
You aren't kidding. They're talking about how Jaquan Lyle needs to be sued for slander. Half seem to be in the "this is all a lie" camp, the other half is in the "big Fing deal. We're motherloving Louisville, we'll keep winning and recruits will keep coming" camp.


Or that Lyle "had a gun to his head" by offering him immunity.  The NCAA isn't looking to harm Louisville.  They are just letting him know that he has one chance to truthfully tell his story, and that if it turns out he is lying , he could lose eligibility.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: dgies9156 on October 08, 2015, 05:07:56 PM
If I were western Kentucky, I'd be terrified right now.

Yes, as in the NCAA will be so angry at Louisville, it puts both Western Kentucky and Murray State on three years probation!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: naginiF on October 08, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
I can't believe ______.scout.com wasn't my go to site when other universities hit the rocks.  Very entertaining.

Some posts were reassuring in their familiarity...."the Louisville BBall program is bigger than one coach".  Some posts were rational...."we should wait for the process to unfold before we panic but it doesn't look good".  MANY posts were hilarious.....won't duplicate what others have noted, but I'll add that in the threads i've read, if you are a UL fan you no longer can say or type the word 'prostitute' as it has been replaced by 'stripper'. 
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: source? on October 08, 2015, 11:32:16 PM
This is great schadenfreude. Their football team sucks and their basketball team will likely be screwed (heh, heh). It's a great time to be alive.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 09, 2015, 07:41:57 AM
...and their basketball team will likely be screwed (heh, heh)...

I wonder if they'll be stripped of their title.  Either way, they might not be dancing this year.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 09, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
I wonder if they'll be stripped of their title.  Either way, they might not be dancing this year.

Double zing!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 09, 2015, 09:12:09 AM
Henry Ellenson is thinking "All I got was some f***ing ice cream!"
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: tower912 on October 09, 2015, 09:20:30 AM
Rumor mill regarding Pitino's replacement.    Robert Horry.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: JWags85 on October 09, 2015, 09:38:37 AM
Rumor mill regarding Pitino's replacement.    Robert Horry.

Thats insane.  No connection to L'ville and never been a coach at any level.  This isn't Derek Fisher or Jason Kidd going right to the NBA.  The fan base would riot.

The sanctions they are going to slap on Evansville for this will make people's head spin.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: GGGG on October 09, 2015, 09:41:31 AM
Thats insane.  No connection to L'ville and never been a coach at any level.  This isn't Derek Fisher or Jason Kidd going right to the NBA.  The fan base would riot.

The sanctions they are going to slap on Evansville for this will make people's head spin.


Something went over someone's head.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: tower912 on October 09, 2015, 09:43:05 AM
Thats insane.  No connection to L'ville and never been a coach at any level.  This isn't Derek Fisher or Jason Kidd going right to the NBA.  The fan base would riot.

The sanctions they are going to slap on Evansville for this will make people's head spin.

Say the last name OUT LOUD.    Humor alert.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on October 09, 2015, 10:02:17 AM
http://www.wdrb.com/story/30221729/bozich-hidden-player-in-louisville-scandal-recruiting-pressure-in-2010
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: WarriorInNYC on October 09, 2015, 10:11:55 AM
Say the last name OUT LOUD.    Humor alert.

Well done.  That went well over my head.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: tower912 on October 09, 2015, 10:16:16 AM
On a related note, if Robert Horry (say the name out loud) WERE the new coach at Louisville, his players could compete to see who would be the next 'Big shot Bob'.   To borrow from Dan Patrick,  "Release, rotation, splash."
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 09, 2015, 10:34:54 AM
Isn't the "H" silent in Robert Horry's name?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 09, 2015, 10:49:18 AM

Something went over someone's head.


That was not just somethin'. It was either a blond or brunette, ai na?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 79Warrior on October 09, 2015, 10:58:23 AM
Isn't the "H" silent in Robert Horry's name?

Si'
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 20, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13927159/former-louisville-cardinals-basketball-players-recruits-acknowledge-stripper-parties-minardi-hall

I really can't see Pitino surviving this. Even if he didn't know (which I find extremely unlikely) this is such a lack of institutional control that I don't think he avoids punishment. Two of the recruits (Russ Smith and Montrezl Harrell) who have been named were stars of Louisville's national title run. If they prove that they received sex for money supplied by Louisiville, I think the NCAA could strip them of their title.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: mug644 on October 20, 2015, 11:27:32 AM
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13927159/former-louisville-cardinals-basketball-players-recruits-acknowledge-stripper-parties-minardi-hall

I really can't see Pitino surviving this. Even if he didn't know (which I find extremely unlikely) this is such a lack of institutional control that I don't think he avoids punishment. Two of the recruits (Russ Smith and Montrezl Harrell) who have been named were stars of Louisville's national title run. If they prove that they received sex for money supplied by Louisiville, I think the NCAA could strip them of their title.

Now that would be ironic!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 20, 2015, 11:55:40 AM
Two of the recruits who are named as having sex with the dancers - Antonio Blakeney and Jordan Mickey - ended up going to LSU which kind of has me wondering....

Very interesting tidbit, three months after Andre McGee left Louisville for Missouri-Kansas City, McGee sent a text to Katina Powell giving her the address of the Louisville hotel where Antonio Blakeney and his guardian were staying.  Powell then says that she had sex with the guardian her daughter had sex with Blakeney.  Blakeney later responded to a text from the daughter saying Hey, you remember me?  From Louisville?  Blakeney responded "Yea, wassup."  Obviously, if McGee had the address to send to Powell after he was gone, someone else at Louisville was involved.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: MuMark on October 20, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
"Follow the money" Deep Throat
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 20, 2015, 12:23:24 PM
Two of the recruits who are named as having sex with the dancers - Antonio Blakeney and Jordan Mickey - ended up going to LSU which kind of has me wondering....


In light of how well so many of these kids know each other from the AAU circuit, I'm guessing the following conversation occurred once or twice:

Recruit No. 1:  "You visiting Louisville?"
Recruit No. 2:  "No, I crossed them off when I set my top 3."
Recruit No. 1:  "You gotta visit Louisville...even if they're not on your list...trust me."
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: keefe on October 20, 2015, 01:07:40 PM
I wonder if they'll be stripped of their title.  Either way, they might not be dancing this year.

Outstanding!
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Benny B on October 20, 2015, 01:49:42 PM
On a related note, if Robert Horry (say the name out loud) WERE the new coach at Louisville, his players could compete to see who would be the next 'Big shot Bob'.   To borrow from Dan Patrick,  "Release, rotation, splash."

Say "Cool Whip."
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Benny B on October 20, 2015, 02:24:16 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/escort-could-cardinals-pitino-not-know-sex-parties-124208934--ncaab.html

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Oklahoma State coach Travis Ford, who played for Pitino at Kentucky, said he is 100 percent confident Pitino knew nothing of the sex parties, if the allegations are true.

Ford said Tuesday during Big 12 Conference media day ''for somebody who played for him and knows what he stands for and his expectations out of his players and how he does things, I know there is no chance in the world he knew anything about it.''

Hypothetically, let's say it's revealed - whether by admission or hard evidence - that Pitino did, in fact, know about the parties... should Travis Ford keep his job for backing Pitino with his "100%" claim?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 20, 2015, 02:37:47 PM
Two of the recruits who are named as having sex with the dancers - Antonio Blakeney and Jordan Mickey - ended up going to LSU which kind of has me wondering....

Very interesting tidbit, three months after Andre McGee left Louisville for Missouri-Kansas City, McGee sent a text to Katina Powell giving her the address of the Louisville hotel where Antonio Blakeney and his guardian were staying.  Powell then says that she had sex with the guardian her daughter had sex with Blakeney.  Blakeney later responded to a text from the daughter saying Hey, you remember me?  From Louisville?  Blakeney responded "Yea, wassup."  Obviously, if McGee had the address to send to Powell after he was gone, someone else at Louisville was involved.




Obviously, the sex is better in Baton Rouge, hey?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 20, 2015, 03:21:10 PM
And the more information comes out, the tighter Louisville fans cling to their tinfoil hats. There is way too much smoke for their not to be a fire.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: MUfan12 on October 20, 2015, 03:22:12 PM
Obviously, the sex is better in Baton Rouge, hey?

Chances are the women have less teeth.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: willie warrior on October 20, 2015, 03:30:59 PM
Chances are the women have less teeth.
La. women come in a distant 2nd to Ky. and Ark. for toothless women--and men.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: willie warrior on October 20, 2015, 03:43:07 PM

In light of how well so many of these kids know each other from the AAU circuit, I'm guessing the following conversation occurred once or twice:

Recruit No. 1:  "You visiting Louisville?"
Recruit No. 2:  "No, I crossed them off when I set my top 3."
Recruit No. 1:  "You gotta visit Louisville...even if they're not on your list...trust me."
No doubt that many of these kids know each other from the AAU circuit, but the real question here is how many kids from the AAU circuit do Katena Powell and her daughter know (in the biblical sense) from the AAU circuit? And the secondary question would be, how did slick Rick not know?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 20, 2015, 04:05:13 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/escort-could-cardinals-pitino-not-know-sex-parties-124208934--ncaab.html

Hypothetically, let's say it's revealed - whether by admission or hard evidence - that Pitino did, in fact, know about the parties... should Travis Ford keep his job for backing Pitino with his "100%" claim?

Two things I love today.  1. A picture of Pitino coaching with ashes on his forehead in the ESPN article and 2. this Travis Ford quote

Travis knows about Porcini's right -- we are not talking about some sort of untarnished hero/saint here.  Travis should have instead said "I know Rick and I know how he runs his program.  Rick is too smart not to have plausible deniability on this topic"
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 20, 2015, 04:28:17 PM
La. women come in a distant 2nd to Ky. and Ark. for toothless women--and men.

Coming soon to Arkansas and Kentucky: Mazos burger smoothie franchises.

"Get the burger that's a real smoothie!"
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: jesmu84 on October 20, 2015, 05:36:41 PM
Question: Is it realistic to believe no one in a position of authority (outside of Louisville) knew this was going on? From AAU coaches to parents to handlers, etc. No one knew? More specifically, media/reporters. These people talk to hundreds/thousands of recruits/players, coaches, parents, handlers, etc. They are supposedly "insiders" and have more knowledge than anyone. Is it honestly possible that NO ONE knew about this outside of Louisville? Personally, I do believe people, including media, probably had some idea. Why then would they not say anything?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Jay Bee on October 20, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
"ayo i'm bout to get some a$$ on my visit to the Ville son!!"

"man u ain't doin nathan but maybe hoopin in the Yum and maybe u will eat some steak foe dinner"

"bruh u ain't be knowin about they head coach? he gets it in yo!!!! Guaranteed I'm bangin!!..............
(http://i.imgur.com/8SF4zTm.jpg)"
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Shack on October 20, 2015, 05:57:17 PM
Question: Is it realistic to believe no one in a position of authority (outside of Louisville) knew this was going on? From AAU coaches to parents to handlers, etc. No one knew? More specifically, media/reporters. These people talk to hundreds/thousands of recruits/players, coaches, parents, handlers, etc. They are supposedly "insiders" and have more knowledge than anyone. Is it honestly possible that NO ONE knew about this outside of Louisville? Personally, I do believe people, including media, probably had some idea. Why then would they not say anything?

Follow the $ trail.  Someone was paying for the hookers and it wasn't Andre McGhee.  The Hershey highway goes through  Dick Strong. 
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: mu-rara on October 20, 2015, 07:31:06 PM
And the more information comes out, the tighter Louisville fans cling to their tinfoil hats. There is way too much smoke for their not to be a fire.
Not the same in today's world.  24 hour news cycle clears the smoke.   
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 20, 2015, 09:38:29 PM
Not the same in today's world.  24 hour news cycle clears the smoke.

It doesn't clear any smoke, it just distracts people from the smoke.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: jesmu84 on October 29, 2015, 11:52:39 AM
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/659754414689746944

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Heard Louisville just announce that Damion Lee and Trey Lewis will handle all post game interviews this season.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: wadesworld on October 29, 2015, 12:16:37 PM
There's no way Pittino didn't know.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 29, 2015, 12:58:30 PM
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/659754414689746944

Love all the Lousiville fans who responded who clearly thought it was a serious tweet, lol.

On a serious note, cowardly move by Pitino to skip ACC media day. Especially right after he made a big speech about not letting the fans down. Lawyers probably want to make sure he doesn't make any false statements about not knowing
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: jesmu84 on October 29, 2015, 01:09:30 PM
Love all the Lousiville fans who responded who clearly thought it was a serious tweet, lol.

On a serious note, cowardly move by Pitino to skip ACC media day. Especially right after he made a big speech about not letting the fans down. Lawyers probably want to make sure he doesn't make any false statements about not knowing

You mean besides the ones he's probably already made?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on October 29, 2015, 02:12:41 PM
He knows nothing beyond prescreening the talent at a table in a certain restaurant on Salami Night
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 29, 2015, 03:25:36 PM
You mean besides the ones he's probably already made?

Yes, I meant additional comments, lol
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on October 29, 2015, 04:26:30 PM
Love all the Lousiville fans who responded who clearly thought it was a serious tweet, lol.

On a serious note, cowardly move by Pitino to skip ACC media day. Especially right after he made a big speech about not letting the fans down. Lawyers probably want to make sure he doesn't make any false statements about not knowing

He should have donned that white suit and a brim and showed up with a hooker on each arm and asked "Any questions?"
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 30, 2015, 11:21:33 AM
...and just in from a North Carolina fan:

Carolina True ‏@TarHeelStrong  Oct 29 North Carolina, USA
@franfraschilla what the Hell. How is he being allowed to avoid the issues with his program.

I guess Roy Williams is all over that academic cheating scandal making statements left and right.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 30, 2015, 02:08:46 PM
...and just in from a North Carolina fan:

Carolina True ‏@TarHeelStrong  Oct 29 North Carolina, USA
@franfraschilla what the Hell. How is he being allowed to avoid the issues with his program.

I guess Roy Williams is all over that academic cheating scandal making statements left and right.

Williams at least had the guts to go to ACC media day. Doesn't make the situation any better, but makes him better at handling this than Pitino is.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 30, 2015, 04:10:22 PM
That's 'cuz providin' pussay for playas is a 'hole lot worse than havin' someone write yo paper, ai na?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: source? on October 31, 2015, 01:15:38 PM
That's 'cuz providin' pussay for playas is a 'hole lot worse than havin' someone write yo paper, ai na?

Interesting point. From an academic standpoint, having someone else do your homework  is pretty terrible. However, as far as I know prostitution is actually illegal in Kentucky. Depending on the statute of limitations there could be some legal consequences.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 31, 2015, 01:57:36 PM
Interesting point. From an academic standpoint, having someone else do your homework  is pretty terrible. However, as far as I know prostitution is actually illegal in Kentucky. Depending on the statute of limitations there could be some legal consequences.

In addition to prostitution being illegal, I suspect hooking a minor up with a prostitute also is probably frowned upon.  I suspect at least some of these recruits were minors at the time.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 31, 2015, 02:07:02 PM
In addition to prostitution being illegal, I suspect hooking a minor up with a prostitute also is probably frowned upon.  I suspect at least some of these recruits were minors at the time.

Unlikely. Age of consent in Kentucky is 16....to nobody's surprise
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 31, 2015, 04:18:07 PM
Unlikely. Age of consent in Kentucky is 16....to nobody's surprise


Two different issues.  The age of consent is 16, but the age of majority is 18.  So, while it might be legal to have sex with a 17 year old, he is still a minor. 

"A person is guilty of unlawful transaction with a minor in the first degree when he or she knowingly induces, assists, or causes a minor to engage in: (a) Illegal sexual activity..."  In other words, I stand by my original statement:  helping kids hook up with prostitutes is frowned upon.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: source? on October 31, 2015, 05:25:44 PM
Unlikely. Age of consent in Kentucky is 16....to nobody's surprise

I'd be interested to see an overlay of the average IQ of states vs the age of consent. I have nothing but an assumption to base this on, but I suspect it would be an interesting correlation.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 31, 2015, 05:52:24 PM

Two different issues.  The age of consent is 16, but the age of majority is 18.  So, while it might be legal to have sex with a 17 year old, he is still a minor. 

"A person is guilty of unlawful transaction with a minor in the first degree when he or she knowingly induces, assists, or causes a minor to engage in: (a) Illegal sexual activity..."  In other words, I stand by my original statement:  helping kids hook up with prostitutes is frowned upon.

I stand corrected. Obviously hooking up kids with prostitutes is frowned upon but I didn't think it would be "worse" because of the age of consent.
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on December 23, 2015, 08:33:53 AM
Nothing ever happened here?
Title: Re: Louisville knows how to recruit!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 23, 2015, 11:05:41 AM
Nothing ever happened here?

NCAA investigations take time. I imagine we won't hear much new until after the basketball season