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Title: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: tower912 on August 21, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez/status/634762943364755457/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


God bless Matty V.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 21, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Matt_Velazquez/status/634762943364755457/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


God bless Matty V.

  Did I miss the Minutes played column?
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: tower912 on August 21, 2015, 02:39:56 PM
Not included.    Still better than anything we had previously.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: wadesworld on August 21, 2015, 02:43:03 PM
46% from nearly NBA 3 point range.  Nice.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 21, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Not included.    Still better than anything we had previously.


  I hear Thee!
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 21, 2015, 02:47:04 PM
Sacar got to the line a lot but 11-17 wasn't great.

Think he shot well in high school.

Hopefully him, Duane and Hank improve that
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 21, 2015, 02:49:19 PM
Sacar got to the line a lot but 11-17 wasn't great.

Think he shot well in high school.

Hopefully him, Duane and Hank improve that

Not worried about Duane he was shooting 90% at one point last year.  Henry does need to improve his free throws because he will get to the line a lot.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on August 21, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Not worried about Duane he was shooting 90% at one point last year.  Henry does need to improve his free throws because he will get to the line a lot.

Yeah Duane was at 90% but he ended in the low 70s didn't he?

He's gotta be one of the guys we can count on. Luke will get their a lot so 16-21 is hopefully around is norm
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: chapman on August 21, 2015, 03:35:40 PM
The Engine per game: 14 pts / 5 ast / 6 reb / 3 stl

Even more impressive if 8 of his 13 turnovers were isolated to one game.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: warriorchick on August 21, 2015, 04:04:16 PM
Jay Bee is an ungrateful bastard.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: seakm4 on August 23, 2015, 09:55:30 PM
I thought Clark Griswold was a main player in the European vacation.  Why was he omitted?
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: Jay Bee on August 23, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
Partial, selected & incomplete stats
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: MU82 on August 24, 2015, 12:31:17 AM
Yeah Duane was at 90% but he ended in the low 70s didn't he?


It was one of the mysteries of the season. He completely lost focus or confidence or something. He went from having perfect form -- and near-perfect results -- to just hoping the ball would go in. Weird. Here's hoping he's got it figured out!

Agree about Henry, too. If he's as good as those who know this kind of stuff say he is, he will get a ton of FTs. Gotta make 'em for it to matter.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: Jay Bee on August 24, 2015, 01:44:34 AM
It was one of the mysteries of the season. He completely lost focus or confidence or something. He went from having perfect form -- and near-perfect results -- to just hoping the ball would go in. Weird. Here's hoping he's got it figured out!

Agree about Henry, too. If he's as good as those who know this kind of stuff say he is, he will get a ton of FTs. Gotta make 'em for it to matter.

Two things - Duane was only a 77.6% FT shooter - far from perfect - in nonconference games. The 9/17 performance vs. ASU did him in.. first 7 games were great, but that's just 7 games.

Re: Henry and 'gotta make 'em for it to matter'... in general, that's not true. Gotta get to the line and you're good. I think HE can be a 66-67% FT guy and that's absolutely fine.

Marquette scored less than a point per possession last season. A 50% FT shooter at the line for two scores a point per possession before even considering OR's. Getting to the line is the key.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 24, 2015, 09:52:50 AM
The Engine per game: 14 pts / 5 ast / 6 reb / 3 stl

Even more impressive if 8 of his 13 turnovers were isolated to one game.

3rd leading rebounder among the starters, 4th overall (behind Fischer, HE and Heldt). Not bad for a point guard.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: MU82 on August 24, 2015, 11:57:42 AM
Two things - Duane was only a 77.6% FT shooter - far from perfect - in nonconference games. The 9/17 performance vs. ASU did him in.. first 7 games were great, but that's just 7 games.

Re: Henry and 'gotta make 'em for it to matter'... in general, that's not true. Gotta get to the line and you're good. I think HE can be a 66-67% FT guy and that's absolutely fine.

Marquette scored less than a point per possession last season. A 50% FT shooter at the line for two scores a point per possession before even considering OR's. Getting to the line is the key.

Good points on Duane.

If Henry really is the superstar and great shooter he is reputed to be, I hafta admit I'd be a little disappointed if he's only at 67%.

I won't be crushed or depressed or say that everybody was wrong about him. Just a little disappointed.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: brewcity77 on August 25, 2015, 07:05:27 AM
Two things - Duane was only a 77.6% FT shooter - far from perfect - in nonconference games. The 9/17 performance vs. ASU did him in.. first 7 games were great, but that's just 7 games.

Re: Henry and 'gotta make 'em for it to matter'... in general, that's not true. Gotta get to the line and you're good. I think HE can be a 66-67% FT guy and that's absolutely fine.

Marquette scored less than a point per possession last season. A 50% FT shooter at the line for two scores a point per possession before even considering OR's. Getting to the line is the key.

Excellent point. If you can get a point and foul per possession, you're really doing something right.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: WarriorInNYC on August 25, 2015, 07:51:27 AM
The Engine per game: 14 pts / 5 ast / 6 reb / 3 stl

Even more impressive if 8 of his 13 turnovers were isolated to one game.

Definitely, trying to somewhat normalize these stats to a longer shot clock, I multiplied this by 24/30.  (I know it doesn't exactly correlate, but I think its worth at least considering on an internet message board).

11.2 pts / 4 ast / 4.8 reb / 2.4 stl / 2.6 to
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: brewcity77 on August 25, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
Definitely, trying to somewhat normalize these stats to a longer shot clock, I multiplied this by 24/30.  (I know it doesn't exactly correlate, but I think its worth at least considering on an internet message board).

11.2 pts / 4 ast / 4.8 reb / 2.4 stl / 2.6 to

I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: warriorchick on August 25, 2015, 11:51:07 AM
Definitely, trying to somewhat normalize these stats to a longer shot clock, I multiplied this by 24/30.  (I know it doesn't exactly correlate, but I think its worth at least considering on an internet message board).

11.2 pts / 4 ast / 4.8 reb / 2.4 stl / 2.6 to

Not sure that you can make a 24 vs. 30 second shot clock comparison that is anywhere close to being "apples to apples" when it comes to scoring.

If your analysis is anywhere close to accurate, I would argue that the team should always pretend that there is a 24-second clock. We would score more points in every game.
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: brewcity77 on August 25, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
Not sure that you can make a 24 vs. 30 second shot clock comparison that is anywhere close to being "apples to apples" when it comes to scoring.

If your analysis is anywhere close to accurate, I would argue that the team should always pretend that there is a 24-second clock. We would score more points in every game.

Yeah, but probably give up a lot more when we stopped defending for the last 6 seconds of every possession ;)
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: warriorchick on August 25, 2015, 01:07:23 PM
Yeah, but probably give up a lot more when we stopped defending for the last 6 seconds of every possession ;)

You are assuming we'd miss the shot.  ;-)
Title: Re: Stats from the Euro-vacation
Post by: WarriorInNYC on August 25, 2015, 03:23:13 PM
Not sure that you can make a 24 vs. 30 second shot clock comparison that is anywhere close to being "apples to apples" when it comes to scoring.

If your analysis is anywhere close to accurate, I would argue that the team should always pretend that there is a 24-second clock. We would score more points in every game.

Definitely understood, just know that the game will slow down a bit when moving back to a 30 second shot clock.  Wanted to point that out in the stats as well, understanding that my quick analysis really isn't concrete at all.