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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BM1090 on August 20, 2015, 04:01:58 PM
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Obviously it looks like Marquette dodged a bit of a bullet, but that shouldn't matter at this point. Really hope that he can figure his life out and get on the right path. More important things at stake here than basketball. Not good at all.
Travis Hines @TravisHines21 11m11 minutes ago
ISU's N.Noskowiak has been charged w/ multiple offenses recently in Wis., including OWI & recklessly endangering safety (felony) per records
http://amestrib.com/sports/men-s-basketball-noskowiak-facing-multiple-charges-wisconsin
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Wow. Not good.
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Wow. Not good.
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NN has a lot of real and serious problems. I hope he figures it out.
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I feel bad for the kid, but this seems to be the difference between a brent recruit and a Wojo recruit.
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I feel bad for the kid, but this seems to be the difference between a brent recruit and a Wojo recruit.
No need to take it there. Wojo worked hard to get him to recommit after he got the job. No one really knew the extent of NN's issues until they surfaced last year.
I just hope Nick can get it figured out, regardless of if basketball is part of that.
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No need to take it there. Wojo worked hard to get him to recommit after he got the job. No one really knew the extent of NN's issues until they surfaced last year.
I just hope Nick can get it figured out, regardless of if basketball is part of that.
Nailed it.
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Now he's suspended. I doubt he even starts class this fall.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/20/iowa-state-suspends-freshman-guard-nick-noskowiak-indefinitely/
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Very sad. Every opportunity in life. I sincerely hopes he squares things up soon.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/Hd3oqvnDKQk
https://www.youtube.com/v/vt1Pwfnh5pc?list=RDvt1Pwfnh5pc
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https://www.youtube.com/v/vt1Pwfnh5pc?list=RDvt1Pwfnh5pc
A shame in general but if you're correct he's going to need a lot of internal and external strength. That's an exceptionally dark hole. Hope he comes out.
**That Cash cover is one of the best and least expected covers ever
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A shame in general but if you're correct he's going to need a lot of internal and external strength. That's an exceptionally dark hole. Hope he comes out.
**That Cash cover is one of the best and least expected covers ever
The NN story is tragic. What a waste.
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Obviously it looks like Marquette dodged a bit of a bullet, but that shouldn't matter at this point. Really hope that he can figure his life out and get on the right path. More important things at stake here than basketball. Not good at all.
Travis Hines @TravisHines21 11m11 minutes ago
ISU's N.Noskowiak has been charged w/ multiple offenses recently in Wis., including OWI & recklessly endangering safety (felony) per records
http://amestrib.com/sports/men-s-basketball-noskowiak-facing-multiple-charges-wisconsin
Yes, there are lot of things more important than basketball. Today we see a lot of young people taken down early in life....very sad.
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Really tough to hear a kid going through so much. Hopefully he can get himself sorted out.
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But wait, how csn this happen to a traditional. ::) All joking aside really hopes he figures out the things he needs to.
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Yes, there are lot of things more important than basketball. Today we see a lot of young people taken down early in life....very sad.
When in God's name did some of these hard drugs become so vogue? I am far from a prude and I have guzzled my share of alcohol but I have never understood the appeal of opioids and amphetamines.
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The NN story is tragic. What a waste.
Tragic? Why? Because he can put a ball through a hoop? Ridiculous. He's an idiot.
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I have never understood the appeal of opioids and amphetamines.
Have you ever had them? They make you feel invincible, which is why athletes love them. I can easily see why people get addicted.
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When in God's name did some of these hard drugs become so vogue? I am far from a prude and I have guzzled my share of alcohol but I have never understood the appeal of opioids and amphetamines.
A lot of it has come from the overprescription of meds to kids. From adderall and stimulants for focus to oxycodone for painkillers, kids are being prescribed more and more meds at a younger age. The problem is when the script runs out they still want to chase the high.
We've seen a massive spike in heroin over the past 3-4 years. Much of that is attributed to the availability of oxycodone and percocet. Not just for kids, but for the general population. But with kids, they get the prescription, then it runs out, they want to chase the high but getting an oxy or perc runs $20-30 per tablet. Heroin, on the other hand, is $5-10 for a bag and hits with a lot more oomph.
Kids can afford the cheaper high and drug dealers are realizing this market. And while some want to go for coke or other stimulants to replace the adderall/ritalin they were on, the price of coke has gone way up in the past decade or so, so instead they just go for the opiates. It never ceases to amaze me how many kids that are clearly from the suburbs end up overdosing in some of Milwaukee's worst neighborhoods. It's absolutely tragic.
Then when you add in all of the cuts to MPD from the Mayor and Police Chief...MPD pretty much doesn't even have a drug task force anymore. Dealers target script addicts and the police have been neutered in our city. I'm sure it's not just here, but it's very evident in Milwaukee, which makes it all easy to get across Southeastern Wisconsin.
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Tragic? Why? Because he can put a ball through a hoop? Ridiculous. He's an idiot.
If the insinuations here are accurate, NN deserves our sympathy not our insults.
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Tragic? Why? Because he can put a ball through a hoop? Ridiculous. He's an idiot.
The tragedy has nothing to do with his athletic ability. I am looking at a young man who is throwing his life away.
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A lot of it has come from the overprescription of meds to kids. From adderall and stimulants for focus to oxycodone for painkillers, kids are being prescribed more and more meds at a younger age. The problem is when the script runs out they still want to chase the high.
We've seen a massive spike in heroin over the past 3-4 years. Much of that is attributed to the availability of oxycodone and percocet. Not just for kids, but for the general population. But with kids, they get the prescription, then it runs out, they want to chase the high but getting an oxy or perc runs $20-30 per tablet. Heroin, on the other hand, is $5-10 for a bag and hits with a lot more oomph.
Kids can afford the cheaper high and drug dealers are realizing this market. And while some want to go for coke or other stimulants to replace the adderall/ritalin they were on, the price of coke has gone way up in the past decade or so, so instead they just go for the opiates. It never ceases to amaze me how many kids that are clearly from the suburbs end up overdosing in some of Milwaukee's worst neighborhoods. It's absolutely tragic.
Then when you add in all of the cuts to MPD from the Mayor and Police Chief...MPD pretty much doesn't even have a drug task force anymore. Dealers target script addicts and the police have been neutered in our city. I'm sure it's not just here, but it's very evident in Milwaukee, which makes it all easy to get across Southeastern Wisconsin.
We have had a lot of heroin mixed with fentanyl lately. Personally run on over a half-dozen cases in the last year of users nearly in cardiac arrest brought back with narcan. Then they usually come out of it pissed that we are there.
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Don't know the insinuations. Guy has had multiple chance already to turn his life around. Worst part about it is he accused his dad of abuse, which seems to be a lie. Multiple chances to get back on his high school team and MU stood by his side until the very end. Then he's open and all these major schools go after him again. Guy has more perspective than most kids his age and he still making childish mistakes. Strikes me as a punk ass who thinks he's above most. Honestly, if he wasn't a player he'd just be another kid out of high school making bad decisions. Plenty other kids truly born into tragic situations that deserve people's attention. Look no further than the city of Milwaukee.
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Character revealed
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Don't know the insinuations. Guy has had multiple chance already to turn his life around. Worst part about it is he accused his dad of abuse, which seems to be a lie. Multiple chances to get back on his high school team and MU stood by his side until the very end. Then he's open and all these major schools go after him again. Guy has more perspective than most kids his age and he still making childish mistakes. Strikes me as a punk ass who thinks he's above most. Honestly, if he wasn't a player he'd just be another kid out of high school making bad decisions. Plenty other kids truly born into tragic situations that deserve people's attention. Look no further than the city of Milwaukee.
How about recognizing he has issues and showing some damn gratitude that you don't have the same issues??? Holier than thou bullsh*t you're spewing
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I hope he can pull it together.
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A lot of it has come from the overprescription of meds to kids. From adderall and stimulants for focus to oxycodone for painkillers, kids are being prescribed more and more meds at a younger age. The problem is when the script runs out they still want to chase the high.
We've seen a massive spike in heroin over the past 3-4 years. Much of that is attributed to the availability of oxycodone and percocet. Not just for kids, but for the general population. But with kids, they get the prescription, then it runs out, they want to chase the high but getting an oxy or perc runs $20-30 per tablet. Heroin, on the other hand, is $5-10 for a bag and hits with a lot more oomph.
Kids can afford the cheaper high and drug dealers are realizing this market. And while some want to go for coke or other stimulants to replace the adderall/ritalin they were on, the price of coke has gone way up in the past decade or so, so instead they just go for the opiates. It never ceases to amaze me how many kids that are clearly from the suburbs end up overdosing in some of Milwaukee's worst neighborhoods. It's absolutely tragic.
Then when you add in all of the cuts to MPD from the Mayor and Police Chief...MPD pretty much doesn't even have a drug task force anymore. Dealers target script addicts and the police have been neutered in our city. I'm sure it's not just here, but it's very evident in Milwaukee, which makes it all easy to get across Southeastern Wisconsin.
This is all such scary stuff. When we were in high school it was beer and weed. Nowadays, kids are chasing much more dangerous highs.
I think there is merit to your thinking about the pharmaceutical emphasis of both primary and specialist care in America. It is so much easier to treat the symptoms of conditions through chemistry than to engage in more elemental therapeutic regimens that are costlier and more problematic. (Much of this has to do with our payor system, as well.)
You and Tower see the impact of this crisis on a more personal, and in some ways, more visceral level. I have been in refugee camps, supported those assisting the victims of human trafficking, and seen the collateral casualties of war. I had the benefit of distance whereas responders have to pick up the pieces. From my experiences, the most haunting images are the young.
I give you guys all the credit in the world. Picking up those pieces must put little tears in one's soul.
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Don't know the insinuations. Guy has had multiple chance already to turn his life around. Worst part about it is he accused his dad of abuse, which seems to be a lie. Multiple chances to get back on his high school team and MU stood by his side until the very end. Then he's open and all these major schools go after him again. Guy has more perspective than most kids his age and he still making childish mistakes. Strikes me as a punk ass who thinks he's above most. Honestly, if he wasn't a player he'd just be another kid out of high school making bad decisions. Plenty other kids truly born into tragic situations that deserve people's attention. Look no further than the city of Milwaukee.
spent many years working with kids with serious issues...most that come from really tough homes. things i never new existed, and still find most adults don't...but i've always found empathy for all kids.
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When in God's name did some of these hard drugs become so vogue? I am far from a prude and I have guzzled my share of alcohol but I have never understood the appeal of opioids and amphetamines.
Ethyl alcohol has done more damage than all the other drugs in the world combined. How many families has it destroyed? Fights? Rapes? Deaths? Careers ruined?
Booze just happens to be legal.
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Ethyl alcohol has done more damage than all the other drugs in the world combined. How many families has it destroyed? Fights? Rapes? Deaths? Careers ruined?
Booze just happens to be legal.
But nowhere near as addictive. That is the problem.
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Sad. Nick is a good kid with a lot of problems. Let's not judge. Godspeed to recovery.
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Ethyl alcohol has done more damage than all the other drugs in the world combined. How many families has it destroyed? Fights? Rapes? Deaths? Careers ruined?
Booze just happens to be legal.
Yeah alcohol can obviously have its affects as well.
But it's nowhere near as lethal as most drugs.
You hear about things like drug ODs all the time. Alcohol..not so much.
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Where is the talk of opiates and "harder" drugs coming from? I didn't see anything in that link. Was there something earlier or are people speculating?
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Very sad. Good luck to the kid.
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I feel bad for the kid, but this seems to be the difference between a brent recruit and a Wojo recruit.
That seems to be a silly statement since both coaches successfully recruited him to Marquette.
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We have had a lot of heroin mixed with fentanyl lately. Personally run on over a half-dozen cases in the last year of users nearly in cardiac arrest brought back with narcan. Then they usually come out of it pissed that we are there.
Narcan is crazy. You were dead to the world a few seconds ago and now you're cursing that I ruined your high.
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It is some amazing stuff.
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Yeah alcohol can obviously have its affects as well.
But it's nowhere near as lethal as most drugs.
You hear about things like drug ODs all the time. Alcohol..not so much.
You may want to check the stats on that one, chief.
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Narcan is quickly becoming a double-edged sword, especially now that it is being distributed to opiate abusers. We've seen more users effectively working in teams, getting high together and if someone happens to OD, one of the others pushes Narcan to bring them back. I haven't seen it personally, but I've also heard of overdose victims found with a sign on their chest taped to a vial of intranasal Narcan saying "If found dead, put this in my nose and push". The believe that Narcan will save everyone from overdoses has users chasing even bigger highs than in the past.
Don't get me wrong, Narcan is an incredible drug, but while making it more available will certainly save lives, it will also have some very dangerous consequences.
This is all such scary stuff. When we were in high school it was beer and weed. Nowadays, kids are chasing much more dangerous highs.
I think there is merit to your thinking about the pharmaceutical emphasis of both primary and specialist care in America. It is so much easier to treat the symptoms of conditions through chemistry than to engage in more elemental therapeutic regimens that are costlier and more problematic. (Much of this has to do with our payor system, as well.)
You and Tower see the impact of this crisis on a more personal, and in some ways, more visceral level. I have been in refugee camps, supported those assisting the victims of human trafficking, and seen the collateral casualties of war. I had the benefit of distance whereas responders have to pick up the pieces. From my experiences, the most haunting images are the young.
I give you guys all the credit in the world. Picking up those pieces must put little tears in one's soul.
It's all about picking your battles, I'm sure you understand that. You help who you can and try to provide actual guidance where you can, but you need to be able to disconnect yourself sometimes because quite a few people are beyond saving and you definitely don't want to take that emotional baggage home with you after work.
Agreed on the payor system being part of the problem. It's easier to medicate than it is to rehabilitate, and usually more lucrative. There are a lot of health care reforms going through that are designed to force health care providers to actually show their treatments are getting results in order to get paid. I'm not convinced yet it will work, though; I'm definitely from the "believe it when I see it" camp in that regard.
And definitely agree on the young.
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We have discussed the whole 'narcan as enabler' scenario within our department and with the ambulance companies we work with, but as yet, it hasn't happened around here. We see a lot of human misery, as we are rarely called when a citizen is having a GOOD day. By and large, I hold onto the person until my report is done, and then I metaphorically toss them and their problem into the trash, unless there is a lesson to be learned from the call. Naturally, there are calls that are not so easily shaken off, and yes, a disproportionately large number of those involve children. Some people, it hardens. I find that I have a lower tolerance for weak sauce but a higher level of compassion for those genuinely in need. And I have come to appreciate the razor's edge between getting by and failing for so many people. So I rarely judge. "There, but for the grace of God"......
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A Google car could have averted these problems, non è?
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Doesn't sound like NN is on an upward spiral. What's in the article isn't any worse than what a lot of kids that age do, but he is in the process of pissing away a golden opportunity and doing so may haunt him for the rest of his life. Here's hoping he finds the help he needs to work things out whether or not, as was mentioned above, hoops is to be a part of it.
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Doesn't sound like NN is on an upward spiral. What's in the article isn't any worse than what a lot of kids that age do, but he is in the process of pissing away a golden opportunity and doing so may haunt him for the rest of his life. Here's hoping he finds the help he needs to work things out whether or not, as was mentioned above, hoops is to be a part of it.
There aren't a lot of kids who get felony charges of endangering safety, get a DUI at the age of 18, and are facing criminal destruction of property.
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There aren't a lot of kids who get felony charges of endangering safety, get a DUI at the age of 18, and are facing criminal destruction of property.
Oh, come on now, it's just kids being kids.
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There aren't a lot of kids who get felony charges of endangering safety, get a DUI at the age of 18, and are facing criminal destruction of property.
I'll go ahead and say I easily could have faced any of those charges at that age, I just wasn't caught. And when I was caught, I was able to talk my way out of things with the police. It was stupid behavior, it was reckless behavior, and it makes me cringe to think back on it.
I managed to turn out okay.
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Opiates are a different animal than alcohol, certainly more addicting, and many do get started with "legitimate" prescriptions. Down here in Kentucky we've recently (last several years) passed strict(er) laws regarding the prescribing of narcotic pain meds. One of the consequences has been an increase in heroin use (and deaths) as prescription opiates have become harder to come by... and often you'd be surprised at who is using.
Narcan is impressive to see in action (personally, I support the distribution of the auto-injectors, but that's a whole other debate).
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I'll go ahead and say I easily could have faced any of those charges at that age, I just wasn't caught. And when I was caught, I was able to talk my way out of things with the police. It was stupid behavior, it was reckless behavior, and it makes me cringe to think back on it.
I managed to turn out okay.
It takes a lot to face a felony charge of endangering safety. And I'm sure there are kids who get behind the wheel after having a few drinks, but how many get noticed by police and refuse to perform a breathalyzer test?
Criminal destruction of property probably takes quite a bit of damage as well, but I suppose that's the closest thing to a "normal drunk college" thing to do.
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I sincerely hope that Noskowiak is able to get the help he needs. The longer I watch his story unfold the more it seems like he just doesn't have a lot of people in his life really looking out for him and his best interest. Plenty of people that are interested in his ability on the basketball court, but not on Nick himself. He's certainly made mistakes which led first to Marquette distancing themselves and seemingly now Prohm and ISU doing the same. But at the end of the day, he needs someone there to stand by him and make sure he gets the help he needs.
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Where is the talk of opiates and "harder" drugs coming from? I didn't see anything in that link. Was there something earlier or are people speculating?
I'm wondering this as well.
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If the insinuations here are accurate, NN deserves our sympathy not our insults.
Let us pray that keefe's info isn't accurate. And if it tragically is, let us pray even harder.
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Tower and brew. Both of you seem very knowledgeable. Might I ask your professions without asking you to reveal too much? Thanks guys.
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They are both Milwaukee firefighters I think.
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"There, but for the grace of God"......
Thank you...gratitude is an amazing power
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Opiates are a different animal than alcohol, certainly more addicting, and many do get started with "legitimate" prescriptions. Down here in Kentucky we've recently (last several years) passed strict(er) laws regarding the prescribing of narcotic pain meds. One of the consequences has been an increase in heroin use (and deaths) as prescription opiates have become harder to come by... and often you'd be surprised at who is using.
Narcan is impressive to see in action (personally, I support the distribution of the auto-injectors, but that's a whole other debate).
The subject of substance abuse, particularly opioids and amphetamines, triggered a discussion at work yesterday. And what I heard from people in their 20s was shocking - there is an almost casual acceptance within the tech community that educated, upwardly mobile, ambitious professionals working long hours find solace/inspiration/release etc...through a variety of drugs.
I think boomers have always associated heroin use with either the desperately poor or artists but certainly not the upper middle class. (Mention heroin use and your mind flashes to John Hurt in Midnight Express or a gaunt, skeletal Keith Richards...) When I hear about kids with many privileges using heroin I am shocked; people in their 20s shrug it off as part of the norm.
We are now located in the Bravern Tower in downtown Bellevue. The first couple floors are Gucci, LV, Nieman Marcus, et al. I heard yesterday that many of the folks working on floors 3-10 take 'smoke breaks' down stairs outside Tiffany's. Someone pointed out that you can tell if MS is nearing a ship date by the number of people heading outside to recharge their battery.
When I asked, 'but why?' the answer was another question: "How do you think all these people work 50 straight hours all the time?"
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Tower and brew. Both of you seem very knowledgeable. Might I ask your professions without asking you to reveal too much? Thanks guys.
Firefighter. Not in Milwaukee. Alan is on in Milwaukee.
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The subject of substance abuse, particularly opioids and amphetamines, triggered a discussion at work yesterday. And what I heard from people in their 20s was shocking - there is an almost casual acceptance within the tech community that educated, upwardly mobile, ambitious professionals working long hours find solace/inspiration/release etc...through a variety of drugs.
I think boomers have always associated heroin use with either the desperately poor or artists but certainly not the upper middle class. (Mention heroin use and your mind flashes to John Hurt in Midnight Express or a gaunt, skeletal Keith Richards...) When I hear about kids with many privileges using heroin I am shocked; people in their 20s shrug it off as part of the norm.
We are now located in the Bravern Tower in downtown Bellevue. The first couple floors are Gucci, LV, Nieman Marcus, et al. I heard yesterday that many of the folks working on floors 3-10 take 'smoke breaks' down stairs outside Tiffany's. Someone pointed out that you can tell if MS is nearing a ship date by the number of people heading outside to recharge their battery.
When I asked, 'but why?' the answer was another question: "How do you think all these people work 50 straight hours all the time?"
It has been mentioned before but the step from casual pharma abuse to heroin abuse is shorter than we like to admit.
I'm 28. My generation was pretty open to experimenting with marijuana, but it sure seems that Gen-X and Boomers were too. It seems like psychedelics like LSD that were so popular in the 60s have faded out and opiates have faded in. Is it that my generation has a more cavalier attitude toward drugs than those past? Or is it just that the "tastes and preferences" have shifted toward a different class of drugs?
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It has been mentioned before but the step from casual pharma abuse to heroin abuse is shorter than we like to admit.
I'm 28. My generation was pretty open to experimenting with marijuana, but it sure seems that Gen-X and Boomers were too. It seems like psychedelics like LSD that were so popular in the 60s have faded out and opiates have faded in. Is it that my generation has a more cavalier attitude toward drugs than those past? Or is it just that the "tastes and preferences" have shifted toward a different class of drugs?
I think the high prescription of painkillers and the abundance of cheap, potent heroin is the problem.
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Let us pray that keefe's info isn't accurate. And if it tragically is, let us pray even harder.
Keefe is accurate, time to close this, let the kid be, needs to get his head screwed on, it is to bad, had talent. His life is more important than basketball. Carter was
a great pick-up, lets talk about him.
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Firefighter. Not in Milwaukee. Alan is on in Milwaukee.
Thank you for your service. My great uncle was Captain for many years at 56th & Oklahoma. I'd ride my bike up there as a grade school kid and was always welcome. I'm sure you and brew see way too much but must take real satisfaction when you get to help someone.
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It has been mentioned before but the step from casual pharma abuse to heroin abuse is shorter than we like to admit.
I'm 28. My generation was pretty open to experimenting with marijuana, but it sure seems that Gen-X and Boomers were too. It seems like psychedelics like LSD that were so popular in the 60s have faded out and opiates have faded in. Is it that my generation has a more cavalier attitude toward drugs than those past? Or is it just that the "tastes and preferences" have shifted toward a different class of drugs?
I think as Brew mentioned, the casual acceptance of chemistry to treat pretty much everything has become commonplace today and so the stigmatic barriers are culturally eliminated.
What is shocking to me is how many rational, sophisticated people have incorporated drugs into their work/play cycle. Amphetamines fuel the 72-96 hour work marathons and opioids eases the transition into the recreational phase. MS puts showers in the workplace and some people find that helps facilitate the meth-powered week long, never go home work cycles.
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Don't know the insinuations. Guy has had multiple chance already to turn his life around. Worst part about it is he accused his dad of abuse, which seems to be a lie. Multiple chances to get back on his high school team and MU stood by his side until the very end. Then he's open and all these major schools go after him again. Guy has more perspective than most kids his age and he still making childish mistakes. Strikes me as a punk ass who thinks he's above most. Honestly, if he wasn't a player he'd just be another kid out of high school making bad decisions. Plenty other kids truly born into tragic situations that deserve people's attention. Look no further than the city of Milwaukee.
Everyone else is on their soapbox but I'm with you.
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serious solution: make every 7th grader watch The Wire. No one wants to be bubbles.
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Everyone else is on their soapbox understands that mental illness and substance abuse can affect even relatively privileged people but I'm with you.
fify
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serious solution: make every 7th grader watch The Wire. No one wants to be bubbles.
He lived a great lifestyle. Slangin white Tees
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Thank you for your service. My great uncle was Captain for many years at 56th & Oklahoma. I'd ride my bike up there as a grade school kid and was always welcome. I'm sure you and brew see way too much but must take real satisfaction when you get to help someone.
Manitoba or Blessed Sacrament?
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Thank you for your service. My great uncle was Captain for many years at 56th & Oklahoma. I'd ride my bike up there as a grade school kid and was always welcome. I'm sure you and brew see way too much but must take real satisfaction when you get to help someone.
I've spent quite a few nights at Engine 10. Great firehouse, have a lot of friends that work there, including my first senior firefighter.
It's amazing where you find hard substance abuse. As keefe mentioned, the old mindset was that heroin was the drug of the poor and the tortured artists. But while I work in the heart of the city (currently running out of 27th and Capitol) it's amazing to see who we get for heroin overdoses. Within the past month we had a double-overdose, husband and wife pair from the suburbs that OD'd together. When we woke them up, he kept asking me who was going to take care of his kids if he and his wife were both arrested.
The 20-somethings are very prevalent as well, both for amphetamines and opiates. Just amazing how easily it's embraced. jficke13 is completely right, it's a very short step from prescription drugs to street drugs. The other problem is the dealers know that and work hard to exploit it.
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Obviously it looks like Marquette dodged a bit of a bullet, but that shouldn't matter at this point. Really hope that he can figure his life out and get on the right path. More important things at stake here than basketball. Not good at all.
Travis Hines @TravisHines21 11m11 minutes ago
ISU's N.Noskowiak has been charged w/ multiple offenses recently in Wis., including OWI & recklessly endangering safety (felony) per records
http://amestrib.com/sports/men-s-basketball-noskowiak-facing-multiple-charges-wisconsin
Believe me it matters quite a bit. And add Wojo to the list of those who dodged the bullet. How much would Mike Broeker have had to temper his comments on the program under Wojo during the European trip if Nick were still a Marquette commit? To his credit Wojo seemed to be sticking with Nick until Nick decided not to follow good advice. Probably as good a decision rule as any when deciding when to cut ties.
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serious solution: make every 7th grader watch The Wire. No one wants to be bubbles.
Or the movie "Requiem for a Dream".
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Unless you've watched somebody inject heroin you cannot speak to the harm it causes or its potential benefits.
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Unless you've watched somebody inject heroin you cannot speak to the harm it causes or its potential benefits.
Is "it" heroin? Narcann?
If it's heroin then that's an awful high standard. Does it apply to other harmful things?
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Unless you've watched somebody inject heroin you cannot speak to the harm it causes or its potential benefits.
I would wholeheartedly disagree with this. It doesn't take watching someone shoot up to see the destructive ramifications heroin can have on the body, on the user's family, or on the other aspects of their life.
And FWIW, I have watched somebody inject heroin, and have far more experience with the fallout from heroin abuse than most (from my personal life, not the job). Not sure which benefits you are talking about, the benefits of Narcan or the benefits of using heroin.
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Manitoba or Blessed Sacrament?
I would have been at St. Greg's but did 55th Street School instead. It was converted to Spanish immersion some decades ago. Went on to TMore as a 7th grader before they shut the middle school down. (Now you understand all my jokes about MUHS.)
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I would wholeheartedly disagree with this. It doesn't take watching someone shoot up to see the destructive ramifications heroin can have on the body, on the user's family, or on the other aspects of their life.
And FWIW, I have watched somebody inject heroin, and have far more experience with the fallout from heroin abuse than most (from my personal life, not the job). Not sure which benefits you are talking about, the benefits of Narcan or the benefits of using heroin.
Yo, serious guy, he was bustin' balls re: "unless you've paid $5 to watch the Pro-Am you're unqualified to speak on it"
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I would wholeheartedly disagree with this. It doesn't take watching someone shoot up to see the destructive ramifications heroin can have on the body, on the user's family, or on the other aspects of their life.
And FWIW, I have watched somebody inject heroin, and have far more experience with the fallout from heroin abuse than most (from my personal life, not the job). Not sure which benefits you are talking about, the benefits of Narcan or the benefits of using heroin.
Don't worry. PRN is just being his usual trollish self.
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Unless you've watched somebody inject heroin you cannot speak to the harm it causes or its potential benefits.
I wear a wristband in memory of the child of a friend. Every time I see his mom I see the harm it causes.
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Unless you've watched somebody inject heroin you cannot speak to the harm it causes or its potential benefits.
Well, at least you can be proud knowing you are in the running for dumbest comment of all time.
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It has been mentioned before but the step from casual pharma abuse to heroin abuse is shorter than we like to admit.
I'm 28. My generation was pretty open to experimenting with marijuana, but it sure seems that Gen-X and Boomers were too. It seems like psychedelics like LSD that were so popular in the 60s have faded out and opiates have faded in. Is it that my generation has a more cavalier attitude toward drugs than those past? Or is it just that the "tastes and preferences" have shifted toward a different class of drugs?
Availability. Heroin has seen a spike for two big reasons:
1. you don't just have to inject it anymore. Snortable is a big use lately. Pills. You name it.
2. Pain pills are a lot more common. When I was with Milwaukee co. you saw a lot of blue collar dudes that got hooked on oxy due to a prescription but the street cost was so high they had to get heroin to get their fix when teh well ran dry.
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I've been hearing from colleagues (including in Milwaukee) that they are seeing a pattern of heroin OD coming from many upper class suburban high schools around the midwest over the last couple of years.
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Availability. Heroin has seen a spike for two big reasons:
1. you don't just have to inject it anymore. Snortable is a big use lately. Pills. You name it.
2. Pain pills are a lot more common. When I was with Milwaukee co. you saw a lot of blue collar dudes that got hooked on oxy due to a prescription but the street cost was so high they had to get heroin to get their fix when teh well ran dry.
I picked the wrong month to give up heroin.
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They are mixing it with other things. As I mentioned, around here they are mixing it with fentanyl.
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They are mixing it with other things. As I mentioned, around here they are mixing it with fentanyl.
That has to give it quite a kick. Fentanyl makes morphine look like cough drops.
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a local anesthesiologist just died from fentanyl/heroin overdose. he must have thought, i'm a professional, i know how use this stuff. let's see, i'm 6 foot, weigh 195, add the 3, divide by 7, multiply by 2 and whooopsie doopsie
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That has to give it quite a kick. Fentanyl makes morphine look like cough drops.
The combination seems to be somewhat more dangerous.
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fify
It didn't need fixing.
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It didn't need fixing.
It did.
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Nick Noskowiak will not play for ISU and is stepping away from basketball.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/basketball-mens/2015/08/22/nick-noskowiak-leaving-iowa-state-mens-team/32190479/
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I hope the young man finds some people who have his best interests at heart and then listens to them. I hope he is able to pull it together.
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Hope Nick gets some help and can turn things around!
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3h3 hours ago
It is not a right to play college basketball at the highest level -- it is a privilege. The sooner all players recognize that, the better.
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3h3 hours ago
There have been two players in the last 24 hours -- Darius Paul and Nick Noskowiak -- who failed to understand the privileges they had. Sad.
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Everyone else is on their soapbox
= irony
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Unless you've watched somebody inject heroin you cannot speak to the harm it causes or its potential benefits.
I laughed fwiw
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I've been hearing from colleagues (including in Milwaukee) that they are seeing a pattern of heroin OD coming from many upper class suburban high schools around the midwest over the last couple of years.
Can confirm. It's been crazy over the last year or so in he ED with Heroin OD's. Really sad. Some of them are kids that have really well paying jobs or are in school for future reputable jobs. Its different.
That said, very bummed for NN.
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maybe chris herren could help-this is a sad story with a happy ending...so far. if you read and or watch this movie and don't shed a tear of happiness, well, it's a roller coaster of emotions
excellent book-basketball junkie
excellent movie-unguarded
and for some of those earlier comments diminishing alcohol-read this book. alcohol was his gateway, but soon was not enough. when he couldn't get his drug(s) of choice, he would get hammered with alcohol. as someone said in so many words earlier, alcohol is one of the nastiest drugs we have, but because it's legal, it's not so bad-just handle it broalcohol is the root cause of most of our problems-familial, crime, lost time at work, tragedy, it all starts here. some move on to other drugs-pot, coke, heroin, meth, Rx drugs... some just continue to ruin their lives with alcohol. it's affects are very non-discriminatory
i think if chris herron were asked, he would come running over hot coals with a gas can in each hand to help this young man-it's what addicts will do for each other...if asked
http://onlyagame.wbur.org/2014/10/11/chris-herren-nba-drug-addiction
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Didn't see this posted, but here's the link to the report detailing NN's actions that led to the charges. Pretty crazy story and he's lucky to be alive IMO
http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476 (http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476)
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Didn't see this posted, but here's the link to the report detailing NN's actions that led to the charges. Pretty crazy story and he's lucky to be alive IMO
http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476 (http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476)
Thoughts and prayers for the Noskowiak family. It sounds like Nick is battling some very heavy demons.
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Everyone else is on their soapbox but I'm with you.
Agreed.
He wasn't born a drug addict. He made conscious choices that got himself into this predicament. And from reading his twitter feed, he doesn't seem like a "good kid who made a mistake."
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Agreed.
He wasn't born a drug addict. He made conscious choices that got himself into this predicament. And from reading his twitter feed, he doesn't seem like a "good kid who made a mistake."
That is a real antiquated way of looking at addiction. And regardless, even if your line of thinking is 100% accurate, people still can't have empathy for people who get themselves into that situation?
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Agreed.
He wasn't born a drug addict. He made conscious choices that got himself into this predicament. And from reading his twitter feed, he doesn't seem like a "good kid who made a mistake."
There are actually biological and brain chemical and physiological problems where people can be more prone to addiction than others. There could very well be some chemical misfires for nick.
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The kid needs to get into a mental health facility. I say this without malice or snark. The actions described in the police blotter, in conjunction with prior hints, rumors, allegations, indicate a young man in an unhealthy spiral, due to either an internal chemical imbalance, deep seeded psychological issues, or consumption of recreational pharmaceuticals. Regardless, he needs to go somewhere, figure out the issues, and hit 'reset'.
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There are actually biological and brain chemical and physiological problems where people can be more prone to addiction than others. There could very well be some chemical misfires for nick.
Same can be said for other things, aiina?
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The kid needs to get into a mental health facility. I say this without malice or snark. The actions described in the police blotter, in conjunction with prior hints, rumors, allegations, indicate a young man in an unhealthy spiral, due to either an internal chemical imbalance, deep seeded psychological issues, or consumption of recreational pharmaceuticals. Regardless, he needs to go somewhere, figure out the issues, and hit 'reset'.
Agreed. Have thought this since the charges were brought up.
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maybe chris herren could help-this is a sad story with a happy ending...so far. if you read and or watch this movie and don't shed a tear of happiness, well, it's a roller coaster of emotions
excellent book-basketball junkie
excellent movie-unguarded
and for some of those earlier comments diminishing alcohol-read this book. alcohol was his gateway, but soon was not enough. when he couldn't get his drug(s) of choice, he would get hammered with alcohol. as someone said in so many words earlier, alcohol is one of the nastiest drugs we have, but because it's legal, it's not so bad-just handle it bro[/color]alcohol is the root cause of most of our problems-familial, crime, lost time at work, tragedy, it all starts here. some move on to other drugs-pot, coke, heroin, meth, Rx drugs... some just continue to ruin their lives with alcohol. it's affects are very non-discriminatory
i think if chris herron were asked, he would come running over hot coals with a gas can in each hand to help this young man-it's what addicts will do for each other...if asked
http://onlyagame.wbur.org/2014/10/11/chris-herren-nba-drug-addiction
I disagree that "alcohol is the root cause of most of our problems". Alcohol is most often the first drug of choice for those seeking to self medicate. However, it is not the reason why people choose to self medicate. Once someone can stop using alcohol to self medicate, the underlying problems are still there. In the parlance of addiction recovery; "Sobriety is not recovery". The one case where alcohol is the primary problem would be someone without a desire to self medicate, but who had a predisposition to alcoholism dependence who became an alcoholic as a result of social drinking.
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I disagree that "alcohol is the root cause of most of our problems". Alcohol is most often the first drug of choice for those seeking to self medicate. However, it is not the reason why people choose to self medicate. Once someone can stop using alcohol to self medicate, the underlying problems are still there. In the parlance of addiction recovery; "Sobriety is not recovery". The one case where alcohol is the primary problem would be someone without a desire to self medicate, but who had a predisposition to alcoholism dependence who became an alcoholic as a result of social drinking.
i agree with much of what you say here-in order for some to truly recover, they must not only quit drinking and in most cases using any artificial stimulant(some exceptions may be Rx's from a treating dr.), but also go through intensive therapy to get to the bottom of one's issues. sobriety in and of itself is usually referred to as a "dry drunk".
secondly, one who becomes an alcoholic as a result of "social drinking" still has some underlying issues-otherwise, he/she would stop on his/her own or social drinking would remain just that-social drinking. when it progresses beyond that, it becomes self medicating. drinking because ones body needs it to function for some reason or another
true story-a friend of mine just started an intensive out patient treatment program. she said some dude walked in off the street looking for help. he was as lucid as, well, looking very normal...he blew a 0.45--no schmit!
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Didn't see this posted, but here's the link to the report detailing NN's actions that led to the charges. Pretty crazy story and he's lucky to be alive IMO
http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476 (http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476)
Yikes. Prayers out to his loved ones
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In fairness, there's not much to do in Antigo.
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In fairness, there's not much to do in Antigo.
Drive 2 hours up north.
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That's some crazy crap there.
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In fairness, there's not much to do in Antigo.
Your post is the leader in the clubhouse for the most insensitive post of the year given NN's situation.... :(
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Didn't see this posted, but here's the link to the report detailing NN's actions that led to the charges. Pretty crazy story and he's lucky to be alive IMO
http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476 (http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/index.php?ID=20476)
Woah. I thought it was Driving under the influence? Guess not, but this almost sounds worse, IMO.
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Woah. I thought it was Driving under the influence? Guess not, but this almost sounds worse, IMO.
Nevermind, I see the DUI was in May. Separate offenses.
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Your post is the leader in the clubhouse for the most insensitive post of the year given NN's situation.... :(
Nah, that would go to John Roesthines tweets.
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Kids today!
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Your post is the leader in the clubhouse for the most insensitive post of the year given NN's situation.... :(
Great!
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Five takes discussing a kid who de-committed from us, has emotional concerns and now decommitted/left from Marquette West?
Good Lord, this has to be the off-season?
Can't we come up with anything better to discuss? Leave the poor kid alone and let him get the help he needs.
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Five takes discussing a kid who de-committed from us, has emotional concerns and now decommitted/left from Marquette West?
Good Lord, this has to be the off-season?
Can't we come up with anything better to discuss? Leave the poor kid alone and let him get the help he needs.
Hahaha, says the guy who bumps a four day old thread.
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Hahaha, says the guy who bumps a four day old thread.
+1
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Five takes discussing a kid who de-committed from us, has emotional concerns and now decommitted/left from Marquette West?
Good Lord, this has to be the off-season?
Can't we come up with anything better to discuss? Leave the poor kid alone and let him get the help he needs.
now you tell us??
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Wish him the best. Sounds like lots of therapy will be needed.
The "one that got away" looks like McKay. Gonna tear it up for ISU this season.
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Wish him the best. Sounds like lots of therapy will be needed.
The "one that got away" looks like McKay. Gonna tear it up for ISU this season.
Burton's there too.
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Wish him the best. Sounds like lots of therapy will be needed.
The "one that got away" looks like McKay. Gonna tear it up for ISU this season.
Indeed. Except he would have exhausted his eligibility last season had he not transferred.
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Your post is the leader in the clubhouse for the most insensitive post of the year given NN's situation.... :(
Because it offends all of those living in bumblefrack?
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Burton's there too.
Like champs said, 'The "one that got away" looks like McKay.'
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Indeed. Except he would have exhausted his eligibility last season had he not transferred.
Except Buzz wanted him to redshirt, so he'd be in the same spot here.
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Except Buzz wanted him to redshirt, so he'd be in the same spot here.
That's not why he transferred. It was the dumb Oxtule experiment and backing up the post that caused the transfer.
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That's not why he transferred. It was the dumb Oxtule experiment and backing up the post that caused the transfer.
I didn't say that's why he transferred. I said he'd be in the same eligibility scenario here if he had redshirted like Buzz wanted him to.
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Except Buzz wanted him to redshirt, so he'd be in the same spot here.
Since when did Buzz want him to redshirt? This is news to me. I know he left over PT concerns and playing the 5, but I don't recall Buzz forcing a redshirt on him.