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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on August 15, 2015, 01:08:20 PM
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Yeah....
1. I believe in Henry. Still curious what he will look like against an athletic 6'9 guy.
2. Coaches have done a good job of getting them to play fast. Pushing the ball off of every miss makes me so happy.
3. Defensive play is inconsistent.
4. Need to make free throws.
5. Traci Carter looks good.
6. Wally/Sandy/JJJ/Amin all seem pretty interchangeable at this point.
7. This can only help. Learning how to win, learning to play together.
8. Still not sure about the level of competition.
9. Nobody got hurt. Moving on.
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Yeah....
1. I believe in Henry. Still curious what he will look like against an athletic 6'9 guy.
2. Coaches have done a good job of getting them to play fast. Pushing the ball off of every miss makes me so happy.
3. Defensive play is inconsistent.
4. Need to make free throws.
5. Traci Carter looks good.
6. Wally/Sandy/JJJ/Amin all seem pretty interchangeable at this point.
7. This can only help. Learning how to win, learning to play together.
8. Still not sure about the level of competition.
9. Nobody got hurt. Moving on.
In regards to 6 I would divide them into two tiers. Sandy and JJJ in tier 1 and Wally and Amin in tier 2. JJJ looked much better today and was it just me or did Sandy look really tall? Like he grew from last year.
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Thought JjJ played great today. He and Sandy are 5 and 6. Wally will give us minutes but is somewhat limited. Like what I see in Sacar. And Matty did a nice backup job today.
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Considering this is a bunch of scrimmages, the production quality of this event is top-notch - whoever was thoughtful enough to fund this -- thanks.
I wish I could get Thomas and this you tube feed for every game.
Oh yea -- HE is real good.
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putting JJJ and Wally together is just insulting.
Him and Sandy might be interchangeable. But Wally? Stop.
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I'm so happy we have basketball to talk about during this point of the offseason rather then god knows what.
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putting JJJ and Wally together is just insulting.
Him and Sandy might be interchangeable. But Wally? Stop.
I wasn't overly impressed with any of the 4. They all had their good and bad moments.
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Considering this is a bunch of scrimmages, the production quality of this event is top-notch - whoever was thoughtful enough to fund this -- thanks.
I wish I could get Thomas and this you tube feed for every game.
Oh yea -- HE is real good.
Basketball Travelers + MU Athletics have done a fantastic job to bring this to us.
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JJJ can score in transition. Sandy can score in the half court. Anim does all the little things, doesn't really make any bad decisions, defends really well, and has the ability to score when it is presented. Wally will be a high energy guy and has the right attitude to fill that role. The 3 will be our weakest position, but we have 4 guys who each bring something different to the table, so based on what we need in any given situation I think we'll be fine there, especially considering Cheatham can probably also provide some minutes.
In my view, based on what I see this team needs, the order I feel most comfortable with getting the most minutes would go:
1) Anim
2) Sandy
3) JJJ
4) Wally
We will be able to score the ball this year. We need players who can defend the other team's best scorer. I think Anim is best equipped to do this. Hank's on ball defense is not very good. Give us the option to let Hank guard a less offensively gifted player and Anim takes the better offensive option.
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Dammit. #10 was supposed to be that I wished I could get a look at Cheatham.
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Notice that Vojo (Thomas accent) let Duane play significant time at point?
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See, I just haven't been that impressed with Anim. I think he'll be a good player, just not this year.
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See, I just haven't been that impressed with Anim. I think he'll be a good player, just not this year.
One of the reasons I am not as bullish as some others is that this team is sooooooo young. I think there is a lot of talent here. I'm just not convinced it all comes together this year.
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See, I just haven't been that impressed with Anim. I think he'll be a good player, just not this year.
I think Anim will be fine in a back-up role. He'll be 7-9th man. Last year that was a walk-on. Sacar will give us a solid 12 minutes a game. Was really impressed with Matt today. He can see the floor, stay under control and give both Luke and Henry a real break.
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Thought JjJ played great today. He and Sandy are 5 and 6. Wally will give us minutes but is somewhat limited. Like what I see in Sacar. And Matty did a nice backup job today.
JJJ is doing what the coaches want him to do, working hard on defense ,focusing his offense on driving and transition with an occasional mid range jumper. Based on what I have seen so far I think he is going to be an important factor this year for us. With so many other options he can just do the things he is good at and take advantage of his length etc.
Sacar looks like a winner to me. His stock will keep rising. Sandy continues his nice progression.
Wally is an energy guy, but not someone we want in the game in any kind of important situation.
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My other thought on the game is Carter wins every single 50/50 ball.
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One of the reasons I am not as bullish as some others is that this team is sooooooo young. I think there is a lot of talent here. I'm just not convinced it all comes together this year.
The team is indeed young, which is why getting an opportunity to practice early and play in real games in August is huge. Theses four games will give the coaches significant insight into how to proceed with the fellas going forward. Great experience for all involved.
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I agree 100%. Assuming no one gets seriously injured, this can do nothing but help.
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Also, the person who I would most temper my expectations on based on this performance is JJJ. This is exactly the type of game that JJJ would thrive in, and exactly the type of game we won't play at all in the BE and beyond. Atletas was extremely sloppy with the ball and their transition D was as bad as I've seen. That's exactly where JJJ plays his best, in transition. We won't see that kind of game in the BE.
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3. Defensive play is inconsistent.
Somewhat - but it is hard to tell right now.
They play a different style over there that we will not see a lot. Especially, swinging the ball around for 3 pointers and having bigs move outside. Seems like they mostly drive the lane to get open threes rather than taking it to the hoop to score or get fouled.
And we have to remember that these teams have been together a lot longer than MU so they should work together better.
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Also, the person who I would most temper my expectations on based on this performance is JJJ. This is exactly the type of game that JJJ would thrive in, and exactly the type of game we won't play at all in the BE and beyond. Atletas was extremely sloppy with the ball and their transition D was as bad as I've seen. That's exactly where JJJ plays his best, in transition. We won't see that kind of game in the BE.
I do agree with this to an extent.
This game is definitely not what will routinely happen in BE play.
But to imply that transition is non existent there is not true. We've just had a couple of really poor offensive teams recently.
This year I think our goal is going to be to push it more. So he should get opportunities.
Jury is out though. Agree 100% on that.
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I'm assuming since it hasn't been posted there is no official word but...
We got any sort of box score/stats yet?
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I'm assuming since it hasn't been posted there is no official word but...
We got any sort of box score/stats yet?
Only have the @MarquetteMBB Twitter and GoMarquette.com story to go from:
Henry 29/7
Fischer 21/9
Duane 11 assists
Anim 10 points
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Only have the @MarquetteMBB Twitter and GoMarquette.com story to go from:
Henry 29/7
Fischer 21/9
Duane 11 assists
Anim 10 points
Thanks for this. Kind of like a nice Thumbprint of the game.
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Only have the @MarquetteMBB Twitter and GoMarquette.com story to go from:
Henry 29/7
Fischer 21/9
Duane 11 assists
Anim 10 points
but wait...Duane with 11 assists? Many here have told us he cannot play the point. How can this be?
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but wait...Duane with 11 assists? Many here have told us he cannot play the point. How can this be?
No one has said this.
Many said he couldn't play the point last season. He has had an entire off season to be molded into a PG.
Caveat, I was not one of the one's who said he couldn't play PG last season. Was confused why he didn't get time there.
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Sandy does taller. When will the players be officially measured? Last year the Badger players grew 1-2 inches.
Thought Carter looks really good and will be a refreshing improvement at the point.
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See, I just haven't been that impressed with Anim. I think he'll be a good player, just not this year.
I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised as the season unfolds.
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No one has said this.
Many said he couldn't play the point last season. He has had an entire off season to be molded into a PG.
Caveat, I was not one of the one's who said he couldn't play PG last season. Was confused why he didn't get time there.
wrongo. Go back and read the posts.
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I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised as the season unfolds.
Agreed. I'm a big fan of his game. Does all the little things. Trent Lockett 2.0. Who took a lot of crap here for absolutely no reason.
wrongo. Go back and read the posts.
I'm feeling a Mazo's burger. You in?
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I think Anim will be fine in a back-up role. He'll be 7-9th man. Last year that was a walk-on.
Our depth is the most telling difference.
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Our depth is the most telling difference.
I agree. Anim and Heldt will almost assuredly come off the bench, and they are already showing signs of promise. Give them time to improve and find their roles and they will be valuable, even if not key, players this season. Love the depth and the fact that we're looking at least solid at each position 1-5.
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Missed game today. What was the score?
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In related news, an Illinois player was arrested in France during their European trip:
http://deadspin.com/report-illinois-darius-paul-arrested-in-france-1724332479
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- I love the defense. There are mistakes & missed assignments, but the activity is excellent and the team is built to disrupt. Lots of length and the speed to take advantage of it.
- Much better from JJJ, especially on the defensive end. Not sure he'll ever meet expectations, but he does look useful.
- Henry and Luke will be a matchup nightmare for a lot of teams.
- I love the competition for the 5th-8th slots. All of those guys should earn minutes situationally.
- Loved Duane's vision today.
- No chance of a box score, the score jumped from 32-29 to 46-41.
- Twice today, Traci Carter had breakaways and laid it in. Small detail, but I love the effective lay-in over the flashy dunk. Seen too many botched uncontested dunks in my day.
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wrongo. Go back and read the posts.
I claim they don't exist. You claim they exist. The burden is on you to find the evidence that they do exist.
And saying "Duane is better at the 2G" is not the same thing as "Duane cannot play PG"
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By my count Sandy also had 7 assists. Even without a 3 minute stretch where there was no game to watch.
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/321953001.html
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I claim they don't exist. You claim they exist. The burden is on you to find the evidence that they do exist.
And saying "Duane is better at the 2G" is not the same thing as "Duane cannot play PG"
not doing the legwork for you...there was even a poll about it. Take your burden to the hock shop. You know all about the many past posts regarding the issue.
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not doing the legwork for you...there was even a poll about it. Take your burden to the hock shop. You know all about the many past posts regarding the issue.
Okay. I looked. No one said it. Your turn.
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Okay. I looked. No one said it. Your turn.
Look upthe poll and comments. Many said he was not a PG. Now he is distributing the ball. I do not care where he plays as long as they have him in there.
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Look upthe poll and comments. Many said he was not a PG. Now he is distributing the ball. I do not care where he plays as long as they have him in there.
He looked it up. Didn't find it. The burden of proof is on you. Link or it didn't happen. And the "not doing the legwork for you" copout excuse doesn't work because he already did the legwork for himself and found no evidence of what you are saying.
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Look upthe poll and comments. Many said he was not a PG. Now he is distributing the ball. I do not care where he plays as long as they have him in there.
Absolutely right, many time Coach K has said I don't have positions I have players.
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He looked it up. Didn't find it. The burden of proof is on you. Link or it didn't happen. And the "not doing the legwork for you" copout excuse doesn't work because he already did the legwork for himself and found no evidence of what you are saying.
Here--put that where the sun doesn't shine. Several comments about Duane not a PG, etc. And you don't know that he did the legwork--he only said he did. Now so did I. And don't waste my time Brew--waste your own!!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=46820.0;all
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Here--put that where the sun doesn't shine. Several comments about Duane not a PG, etc. And you don't know that he did the legwork--he only said he did. Now so did I. And don't waste my time Brew--waste your own!!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=46820.0;all
But no one in that thread said "he cannot play the point." Many said that Duane would be much better at the two, and one person said that he might regress at the 2 if he had to play point, but no one said it was beyond him.
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Here--put that where the sun doesn't shine. Several comments about Duane not a PG, etc. And you don't know that he did the legwork--he only said he did. Now so did I. And don't waste my time Brew--waste your own!!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=46820.0;all
So yeah...as Sultan said, not one post in that thread supports your argument. Unless you have more evidence, might want to just chalk this one up to being wrong.
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So yeah...as Sultan said, not one post in that thread supports your argument. Unless you have more evidence, might want to just chalk this one up to being wrong.
Sultan has selective memory. There have been a number of posters here that said he should not play point, and a number have said because he does not have the handles or other reasons. Will not chalk it up as being wrong. Maybe the exact words were not "He cannot play the point", because different posters had different reasons--hell people have said HE could play point--or bring the ball up. And since you feel that you are the statement monitor, your statements will be subject to that scrutiny. BTW--that was just one thread--which you asked for--now you go look up others--they are out there. I will move on to pursue truth, justice and the American way. You can go out of your way to prove somebody wrong. Good try though!
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Sultan has selective memory. There have been a number of posters here that said he should not play point, and a number have said because he does not have the handles or other reasons. Will not chalk it up as being wrong. Maybe the exact words were not "He cannot play the point", because different posters had different reasons--hell people have said HE could play point--or bring the ball up. And since you feel that you are the statement monitor, your statements will be subject to that scrutiny. BTW--that was just one thread--which you asked for--now you go look up others--they are out there. I will move on to pursue truth, justice and the American way. You can go out of your way to prove somebody wrong. Good try though!
1. willie makes a statement
2. TAMU calls out willie
3. For proof, willie cites a thread that doesn't say what he said it did.
4. willie is called out again.
5. willie still somehow asserts he was right
Never stop being you willie.
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What I took from reading that linked thread was that Mark Miller was predicting Engine to UConn! Welcome Mr. Coffey! ;D
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I will move on to pursue truth, justice and the American way. You can go out of your way to prove somebody wrong. Good try though!
How about just starting with truth, since you are struggling so mightily to provide any in this thread?
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Sultan has selective memory. There have been a number of posters here that said he should not play point, and a number have said because he does not have the handles or other reasons. Will not chalk it up as being wrong. Maybe the exact words were not "He cannot play the point", because different posters had different reasons--hell people have said HE could play point--or bring the ball up. And since you feel that you are the statement monitor, your statements will be subject to that scrutiny. BTW--that was just one thread--which you asked for--now you go look up others--they are out there. I will move on to pursue truth, justice and the American way. You can go out of your way to prove somebody wrong. Good try though!
willie, you're getting grumpy. Have a Mazos burger.
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What I took from reading that linked thread was that Mark Miller was predicting Engine to UConn! Welcome Mr. Coffey! ;D
Actually, that's not accurate. Miller predicted Carter to Marquette on March 4 and was the first to do so. He stuck with that pick.
As Jay Bee will happily point out, Crystal Ball is to be taken with a grain of salt much of the time, but when it comes to MU targets, I do trust Miller's picks on there. Hoping he's wrong about Coffey, but as others have pointed out, another 2/3 in that class isn't our biggest need. Would much rather a PF with our last scholarship (or one of our last two, if HE heads to the NBA).
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Georgetown just lost to BC Atletas 90-85.
FWIW GT played that game without DSR or Tre Campbell, their two main options at the point.
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Georgetown just lost to BC Atletas 90-85.
FWIW GT played that game without DSR or Tre Campbell, their two main options at the point.
I think GTown also played the team from Iceland and won by about 10 (and like us were losing going into the 4th Q). How badly did we beat Atletas and how good id GTown supposed to be this year?
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I think GTown also played the team from Iceland and won by about 10 (and like us were losing going into the 4th Q). How badly did we beat Atletas and how good id GTown supposed to be this year?
We beat Atletas by 17 and Lunardi has Georgetown as a 6 seed in his preseason bracketology.
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We beat Atletas by 17 and Lunardi has Georgetown as a 6 seed in his preseason bracketology.
That'll drop a few lines now for sure. And Atletas doesn't even have a Michael Beasley equivalent!
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I think GTown also played the team from Iceland and won by about 10 (and like us were losing going into the 4th Q). How badly did we beat Atletas and how good id GTown supposed to be this year?
My guess is Georgetown will probably be picked 2nd in the Big East coaches poll this year, though anywhere 2-4 is possible.
Of course, summer/preseason games should always be taken with a grain of salt. I remember Syracuse famously losing an exhibition game to Division II Le Moyne College in 2009. It was so destructive to their program that they only managed to win the Big East, earn a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament, and post a 30-5 (15-3) record en route to a Sweet 16 appearance before losing to eventual national runner-up Butler.
So maybe it's significant, but it may also just be a team not taking a meaningless exhibition as seriously as fans often do.
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What are gtowns other two games on their trip?
And have they played them yet? Or just two so far?
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What are gtowns other two games on their trip?
And have they played them yet? Or just two so far?
Comparison results:
Haukar Basketball (Finland)
Marquette won 89-82
Georgetown won 74-64
Vicenza Italy Select
Marquette won 102-66
Georgetown won 95-36
BC Atletas
Marquette won 102-85
Georgetown lost 90-85
SAM Basket Massagno
Marquette won 132-75
Georgetown plays August 22
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Comparison results:
Haukar Basketball (Finland)
Marquette won 89-82
Georgetown won 74-64
Vicenza Italy Select
Marquette won 102-66
Georgetown won 95-36
BC Atletas
Marquette won 102-85
Georgetown lost 90-85
SAM Basket Massagno
Marquette won 132-75
Georgetown plays August 22
Damn. They spanked that Vicenza team.
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Damn. They spanked that Vicenza team.
Yeah, from watching the games, they appeared to be the best team we played, with Atletas a close 2nd. But again, tough to really tell.
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MU and GTown played different "Select" teams.
Having watched all four games, I'm comfortable in saying that Haukar was the best team MU played over there.
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Yeah, from watching the games, they appeared to be the best team we played, with Atletas a close 2nd. But again, tough to really tell.
Atletas and Vicenza the two best teams we played? I would say Haukar was the best team we played, and not just because of the margin of victory. They seemed most on the same page and the most dangerous in terms of being able to put points up in a hurry.
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Atletas and Vicenza the two best teams we played? I would say Haukar was the best team we played, and not just because of the margin of victory. They seemed most on the same page and the most dangerous in terms of being able to put points up in a hurry.
Maybe the games just blended together. Admittedly didn't watch the last two all that closely. I thought MU looked signficantly better in games 2-4 than game 1, so I think that is why Haukar looked better. But I don't claim to be a hoops aficionado, especially when half-ass watching via an ipad.