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Title: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: tompopsicle on July 04, 2015, 01:38:33 PM
The NBA Summer League began yesterday, and here's a list of former MU players playing this year.

Trent Lockett - Indiana Pacers
Dwight Buycks - Los Angeles Lakers
Jamil Wilson - Washington Wizards

*Liam McMorrow - Los Angeles Clippers
*D.J. Newbill - Los Angeles Clippers

The summer league just started and continues throughout July with some teams not playing until the end of July. I assume this means that some teams are still filling out their rosters and that Blue, Gardner, Carlino, and maybe some others will get a chance. Heck, if Josh Gasser and Duje Dukan (Nets and Hornets, respectively) can make rosters I sure hope some Marquette players can...
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: Galway Eagle on July 04, 2015, 03:07:50 PM
So does this mean that Jerel is 100% on with PHX next year?
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on July 04, 2015, 04:06:37 PM
Vander still on Laker's D League team
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: bamamarquettefan on July 04, 2015, 04:23:29 PM
awesome. I just ranked the top 37 on Cracked Sidewalks, and I really want to make it a top 40! However, Ellenson can wait a few years please.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: jsglow on July 05, 2015, 01:49:20 PM
Watched a bit of McMorrow today.  I think he's got backup NBA talent.  Can't coach 7' 2".

My memory has faded.  Was he the MU guy with health issues?
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 05, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
Watched a bit of McMorrow today.  I think he's got backup NBA talent.  Can't coach 7' 2".

My memory has faded.  Was he the MU guy with health issues?

Yep, heart condition, IIRC
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: BM1090 on July 07, 2015, 01:11:44 PM
Vander will be playing for the Bulls summer league team.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 07, 2015, 02:07:48 PM
Vander will be playing for the Bulls summer league team.

Maybe he can beat out Rose for the starting PG position. One can hope.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: brandx on July 07, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
Maybe he can beat out Rose for the starting PG position. One can hope.

He'd have to beat out Aaron Brooks first and that ain't happening either.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: mu-rara on July 07, 2015, 03:05:44 PM
TJ Bray is playing for the Knicks this summer.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 07, 2015, 04:04:19 PM
He'd have to beat out Aaron Brooks first and that ain't happening either.

Wishful thinking. Anything to push Rose away from the Bulls.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: Desert_warrior on July 07, 2015, 04:11:41 PM
Jerel is playing on the Suns summer team. A report says his contract isn't guaranteed.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: tompopsicle on July 11, 2015, 08:29:22 AM
Buycks was the only one who played on the first day of the Vegas summer league, and it didn't go so well.

19 min  0 pts  0-5 fga  1 reb  2 stl  3 TO.

Blue, Jerel, Buycks, and Jamil all play today.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: Desert_warrior on July 17, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
Jerel was waived by the Suns today.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: keefe on July 18, 2015, 01:54:38 AM
Jerel was waived by the Suns today.

That might be all she wrote for his NBA career.

Does anyone know if Newbill filled out his application to play for the Clippers?
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: real chili 83 on July 18, 2015, 09:46:22 AM
Jerel was waived by the Suns today.

Time to go to Europe.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on July 18, 2015, 08:51:48 PM
Watching Vander Blue playing for the Bulls and I'm not seeing anything that indicates he has any sort of prolonged future in the NBA.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: MUFlutieEffect on July 20, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
Watching Vander Blue playing for the Bulls and I'm not seeing anything that indicates he has any sort of prolonged future in the NBA.

Completely agree, but he is making a couple headlines: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13280824 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13280824)
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 20, 2015, 02:23:56 PM
Completely agree, but he is making a couple headlines: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13280824 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13280824)

Vander is the only guy left with a high ceiling among the MU FAs.
Followed by Buycks then Lockett and Jamil.
I think Jerel's at the end of his opportunity. If he could play in Europe or Asia, he'd do well financially for himself.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: real chili 83 on July 20, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
I have to think Buycks has done well for himself.  One full year in the NBA, and a couple of decent seasons in Europe have hopefully added up to a decent bank account.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 20, 2015, 03:53:16 PM
Watching Vander Blue playing for the Bulls and I'm not seeing anything that indicates he has any sort of prolonged future in the NBA.

I dunno. Id much rather have Vander as the Bulls 3rd PG/SG option rather then Hinrich.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on July 20, 2015, 04:14:01 PM
I dunno. Id much rather have Vander as the Bulls 3rd PG/SG option rather then Hinrich.

Ya, but I think that says more about Kirk than Vander.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 21, 2015, 01:11:09 AM
I have to think Buycks has done well for himself.  One full year in the NBA, and a couple of decent seasons in Europe have hopefully added up to a decent bank account.

Especially if he had a bonus clause in his contract for that MVP trophy.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: jsglow on July 22, 2015, 07:10:10 AM
That might be all she wrote for his NBA career.

Probably correct.  Pleased that he saw some court time last year.  He'll always have that.  Absolutely time to maximize the paycheck.  Good luck Jerel.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on July 25, 2015, 01:21:25 PM
Ya, but I think that says more about Kirk than Vander.
What???? :o

You must have bumped your head. Vander should be on an NBA roster right now.

Hinrich at this stage does not hold a lit candle to Blue now. But Hoilberg won't cut him. Isn't Hinrich from Iowa? That would be a hard cut.

Blue is better than most 3rd string guards on 80% of the teams in the league what are you typing about?
 
He has IMPROVED. I only wish the Bucks would invite him in instead of the darn Bulls.

I would be highly perturbed if they have both Jimmy B and Vander on that team being our arch rivals.

But I can't understand your sarcastic comment that "that might be saying more about Hinrich than Vander." What the hell does that mean?

If you are making a smart remark about Vander Blue you need to do your homework. He has elevated his game. I know, I have seen him and taken note. He is a Pro.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: keefe on July 25, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
Probably correct.  Pleased that he saw some court time last year.  He'll always have that.  Absolutely time to maximize the paycheck.  Good luck Jerel.

He's one of our all-time greats. He was pure joy to watch at Marquette. I wish him nothing but the very best.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on July 25, 2015, 01:35:21 PM
Completely agree, but he is making a couple headlines: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13280824 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13280824)
Don't go by what you see in this Summer League for Vander...don't be silly and short-sighted if you are an NBA scout. And many of us are not but we have eyes if not bias.

That young man can play. I think the world of his internal fortitude and how he plays the game and bets on himself.

He's done well. He has ironed out the kinks in his jumper as far as the shot slot and is following through well and has even increased his range from the college 3pt line to the NBA 3pt line.

He guards, he moves well, and has gotten stronger attacking the paint and he he is willing to learn, wait, and be coached.

He is also what seems to be a guy who is a great teammate and every team he has gone on he seems to blend in well with other guys he is competing with for a spot which shows good competitive character and spirit.

You can go to war with him. He still has time. Keep working V!     
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on July 25, 2015, 01:38:50 PM
Maybe he can beat out Rose for the starting PG position. One can hope.
You all laugh...but I guarantee you that Jimmy Butler told someone to take a look at Vander and they might keep him due to Jimmy.

Vander Blue is no scrub people and Jimmy is the Bulls max player now too, and they might do it if to keep Butler happy.

You can move Aaron Brooks....he has value. I say they bring Vander to training camp and Brooks is gone.

Another thing is I think they [Reinsdorf]are trying to work that rivalry with the Bucks by having two guys we know and who played here who they know we are attached to outfit their team like we have Parker.

That means $$$ ...I won't like it one bit to see Blue and Butler on the Bulls because then I will have to be . . . 'divided' in my allegiance when they do play. I hate that.

That is why love and hate every time Wade comes back here...then I have to become impartial. But don't be surprised if Blue stays.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: wadesworld on July 25, 2015, 02:44:36 PM
You all laugh...but I guarantee you that Jimmy Butler told someone to take a look at Vander and they might keep him due to Jimmy.

Vander Blue is no scrub people and Jimmy is the Bulls max player now too, and they might do it if to keep Butler happy.

You can move Aaron Brooks....he has value. I say they bring Vander to training camp and Brooks is gone.

Another thing is I think they [Reinsdorf]are trying to work that rivalry with the Bucks by having two guys we know and who played here who they know we are attached to outfit their team like we have Parker.

That means $$$ ...I won't like it one bit to see Blue and Butler on the Bulls because then I will have to be . . . 'divided' in my allegiance when they do play. I hate that.

That is why love and hate every time Wade comes back here...then I have to become impartial. But don't be surprised if Blue stays.

That is the furthest thing from how professional franchises operate.  And even if they did operate as such (which, again, it couldn't be more off), Jimmy just signed a 5 year deal in Chicago, so he's not going anywhere.  They don't have to do anything to make him happy.  He has 92 million reasons to be happy.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: MUCrew on July 26, 2015, 08:09:25 PM
Jamil signing partial guaranteed with Mavs

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238870/Jamil-Wilson-Signing-With-Mavs
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on July 26, 2015, 08:29:24 PM
Would be awesome if he sticks with them.  Having two Marquette guys on the roster down in Dallas would be sweet.

Now, if only Vander sticks with the Bulls...
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: tompopsicle on July 27, 2015, 01:24:02 PM
Vander Blue mentioned at Top 7 D-League prospect

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2531316-projecting-the-best-potential-nba-role-for-the-top-10-d-league-stars

Projected as "Rotational playmaker or potential starting 2-guard"
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on July 27, 2015, 04:54:41 PM
What exactly is partial guaranteed deal? What exactly does it mean for his future with the Mavs? I can guess they will pay him something but as far as making the team does it carry any weight? Comparable to Trents deal?

 Asking for a friend
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: drewm88 on July 28, 2015, 10:25:46 AM
What exactly is partial guaranteed deal? What exactly does it mean for his future with the Mavs? I can guess they will pay him something but as far as making the team does it carry any weight? Comparable to Trents deal?

 Asking for a friend

Most likely means portions of the contract are contingent on him accomplishing various feats, most importantly making the team out of training camp.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 29, 2015, 08:51:52 AM
Most likely means portions of the contract are contingent on him accomplishing various feats, most importantly making the team out of training camp.

Or some money is already guaranteed, which is likely a check for being at camp.

IIRC, the NBA does have a deadline at some point in their calendar where every contract becomes guaranteed, but I want to say it's not until February or so.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: drewm88 on July 29, 2015, 10:09:04 AM
Or some money is already guaranteed, which is likely a check for being at camp.

IIRC, the NBA does have a deadline at some point in their calendar where every contract becomes guaranteed, but I want to say it's not until February or so.

Correct on both, as I understand it, although I think the cutoff date is early January. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: MU Players in NBA Summer League
Post by: jsglow on July 29, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
Correct on both, as I understand it, although I think the cutoff date is early January. Could be wrong.

Something like that.  This sounds like DJO's Lakers contract a couple years ago.  He was on the team in the Fall and then sent to the D League before he had to be paid for the full year.