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Title: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 10, 2015, 11:19:54 PM
I'm here for cosmetic surgery & aesthetic dermatology convention, till Saturday staying at the bellagio what should I do and what should I not bother wasting my time doing?

Think single, 24yr old, not into hookers, terrible at black jack but love roulette, also a big adrenaline junkie if there's any big rides that are worth doing like that one at New York New York.

Suggestions please!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mugrad2006 on June 10, 2015, 11:23:19 PM
Get a quick tutorial on craps and play. Best game on the floor.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on June 10, 2015, 11:26:46 PM
Is that ride on the Stratosphere still running?  Just thinking about that one makes me pucker
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 77ncaachamps on June 10, 2015, 11:45:23 PM
Is that ride on the Stratosphere still running?  Just thinking about that one makes me pucker

Took that roller coaster out years ago, but you can dangle over the edge ("X-Scream"), rotate over the edge ("Insanity") or shoot yourself up the top of the needle ("Big Shot"), if you want.

http://www.stratospherehotel.com/Activities/Thrill-Rides



Don't waste your time at Fremont Street.

Don't check out a play/musical/act...you won't have the time.

Do visit all the hotels and walk the strip.

If you want to do a touristy thing, do the Coca-Cola sampler.

I'm sure that there are many here who can recommend a good club.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: JWags85 on June 10, 2015, 11:57:11 PM
Think single, 24yr old, not into hookers,

LAAAAAAMMMMMEEEE.

But in all seriousness.  Id definitely check out most of the main hotels in the center of the strip, stroll the casinos, each have their own quirks and unique pieces that make them cool.

Watch the Bellagio fountain show, especially since you are right there.

If you walk down to see MGM Grand, and you should since its massive and pretty cool, see the Lions, pretty awesome.

Definitely learn craps.  Best odds, but also the most fun social game.  A hot table is the most fun you'll have with strangers in your life, outside of a sporting event.

As for clubs, the main ones at the Wynn, XS and Tryst are two of my favorites.  Omnia and Hakkasan are two of the newer ones, very nice.

Oh yea, go to O'Sheas and see drunk rednecks get into fights over beer pong in the back while you play cheap table games.  Its a casino mixed with a college dorm party.  Its pretty great, and there is a Burger King in the back
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 11, 2015, 12:00:33 AM
Took that roller coaster out years ago, but you can dangle over the edge ("X-Scream"), rotate over the edge ("Insanity") or shoot yourself up the top of the needle ("Big Shot"), if you want.

http://www.stratospherehotel.com/Activities/Thrill-Rides



Don't waste your time at Fremont Street.

Don't check out a play/musical/act...you won't have the time.

Do visit all the hotels and walk the strip.

If you want to do a touristy thing, do the Coca-Cola sampler.

I'm sure that there are many here who can recommend a good club.

Freemont street is old Vegas right? Where it's like all enclosed or something?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 11, 2015, 12:05:04 AM
Craps at the Cromwell and Flamingo. Just bet the pass line and the odds.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Warrior Code on June 11, 2015, 12:43:57 AM
DON'T: walk from downtown to the Strip.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 11, 2015, 01:10:12 AM
I used to go to Nellis AFB for Red Flags all the time. When most squadron mates were searching for unpaid companionship through the fog of alcohol I would make the short drive over to Red Rock Canyon for climbing. If you have never climbed this is a superb place to learn. If you are a climber there are several spectacular routes that will give you a compelling pucker factor. I always went through the Base Special Services but there are lots of great guides you should be able to book through your concierge.

If you really want a spectacular day/weekend drive the two hours up to Zion. It has great climbing but is a tremendous place to just immerse yourself in stunning nature.   

As a pilot I have always found 'scary' rides a bit wanting. But as a pilot, i will say that the rush you get from hanging on rock is every bit as sh1t hot as pulling 8 G's.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 11, 2015, 01:57:59 AM
I used to go to Nellis AFB for Red Flags all the time. When most squadron mates were searching for unpaid companionship through the fog of alcohol I would make the short drive over to Red Rock Canyon for climbing. If you have never climbed this is a superb place to learn. If you are a climber there are several spectacular routes that will give you a compelling pucker factor. I always went through the Base Special Services but there are lots of great guides you should be able to book through your concierge.

If you really want a spectacular day/weekend drive the two hours up to Zion. It has great climbing but is a tremendous place to just immerse yourself in stunning nature.   

As a pilot I have always found 'scary' rides a bit wanting. But as a pilot, i will say that the rush you get from hanging on rock is every bit as sh1t hot as pulling 8 G's.

I've done some climbing and love it though I'll have to come back for that one since I'm here for work it's tough to find time to really get out of the city.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: wadesworld on June 11, 2015, 06:18:12 AM
I used to go to Nellis AFB for Red Flags all the time. When most squadron mates were searching for unpaid companionship through the fog of alcohol I would make the short drive over to Red Rock Canyon for climbing. If you have never climbed this is a superb place to learn. If you are a climber there are several spectacular routes that will give you a compelling pucker factor. I always went through the Base Special Services but there are lots of great guides you should be able to book through your concierge.

If you really want a spectacular day/weekend drive the two hours up to Zion. It has great climbing but is a tremendous place to just immerse yourself in stunning nature.    

As a pilot I have always found 'scary' rides a bit wanting. But as a pilot, i will say that the rush you get from hanging on rock is every bit as sh1t hot as pulling 8 G's.

I will second the Red Rocks. Awesome.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Marquette Gyros on June 11, 2015, 06:42:57 AM
Oh yea, go to O'Sheas and see drunk rednecks get into fights over beer pong in the back while you play cheap table games.  Its a casino mixed with a college dorm party.  Its pretty great, and there is a Burger King in the back

O'Shea's is closed. RIP. Best casino on the strip.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 🏀 on June 11, 2015, 06:43:46 AM
Head over to the MGM early in the morning, start placing $1 bets on the ponies and drink free all day and night. If Karen is around, tell her I said hi.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: reinko on June 11, 2015, 07:10:32 AM
Head over to the MGM early in the morning, start placing $1 bets on the ponies and drink free all day and night. If Karen is around, tell her I said hi.

Oh look P, I found a picture of you guys!

(https://myrottingbrain.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/vlcsnap-2011-05-04-20h59m19s8.png)

A cold Millers Lite to anyone who can identify this movie without Googling the image.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 11, 2015, 07:33:38 AM
O'Shea's is closed. RIP. Best casino on the strip.

Reopened as part of the Linq.

A first timer should always walk the strip and gawk at the casinos.  Best free attraction are the Bellagio fountains.  They are as cool as they seem from that scene in Ocean's Eleven.  And I'd STRONGLY recommend Fremont East.  It's downtown and cutting edge.  Joints like Griffin and Beauty Bar.  Been an amazing resurgence from scary to urban hip in 36 months.

PM chick or me if you like.  We have a home in Summerlin and get out there multiple times a year, mostly for the great weather.  We're actually not gamblers very much.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 11, 2015, 08:07:32 AM
Reopened as part of the Linq.

A first timer should always walk the strip and gawk at the casinos.  Best free attraction are the Bellagio fountains.  They are as cool as they seem from that scene in Ocean's Eleven.  And I'd STRONGLY recommend Fremont East.  It's downtown and cutting edge.  Joints like Griffin and Beauty Bar.  Been an amazing resurgence from scary to urban hip in 36 months.

PM chick or me if you like.  We have a home in Summerlin and get out there multiple times a year, mostly for the great weather.  We're actually not gamblers very much.

Yes.  Fremont East is extremely cool. The CEO of Zappo's, Tony Hsei, has pumped serious cash into it in an effort to make it the place young hipsters want to hang out. Make sure you check out Container Park, which is a shopping/entertainment area made completely out of repurposed shipping containers.  Out front is a metal sculpture of a giant praying mantis that shoots flames out of its antennae.  Tony purchased it from a guy at the Burning Man festival.

While the actual street scene at Fremont West has gotten way tacky in the past few years (I am looking at YOU, Slotzilla, and the fat guys that dress up like KISS for tips), the casinos themselves  are much cooler.  Many  of them have very scantily clad dealers who take turns go-go dancing up on a platform in the middle of the tables (yes, they are chicks).  And the downtown casinos have much lower table minimums and are way, way, more generous with the free drinks. Just sit at a bar and play video poker. If you give them a $5 tip the first time they serve you, the bartenders will make sure your drink is replenished quickly.

Plus, at the D Casino, they have my all-time type of game, Sigma Derby, which is an old school mechanical horse racing game.  Of course, once when we were out there as a family, and I suggested we go there, my kids were all, "Hey, everybody!  Mom wants the D!"
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: frozena pizza on June 11, 2015, 08:12:43 AM
Possibly the best nightlife scene in the world.  I would ask the concierge at Bellagio to set something up for you at a club so you make sure you get in and don't have to stand in line for hours and then pay a fortune for access.

This should go without saying, but some people think Vegas's laid back attitude means it is a good time to try drugs.  Not the case.  Also, if you are flying solo, keep your head on a swivel.

Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 11, 2015, 08:57:47 AM
Possibly the best nightlife scene in the world.  I would ask the concierge at Bellagio to set something up for you at a club so you make sure you get in and don't have to stand in line for hours and then pay a fortune for access.

This should go without saying, but some people think Vegas's laid back attitude means it is a good time to try drugs.  Not the case.  Also, if you are flying solo, keep your head on a swivel.



Keeping your wits about you is critical.  There's a veneer of 'anything goes' but that's not really true. Lawlessness isn't tolerated.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 11, 2015, 09:07:52 AM
And young attractive girls get absolutely fawned over by the casinos.  My daughter and her friends were out there celebrating someones 21st birthday after the fact a couple summers ago.  EVERY night they were comped into the hottest clubs, often with FREE bottle service.  Casino hosts would literally stop them in the various casinos and ask them to attend that evening or the next.  So for all you guys who think Marquette girls are the bottom of the barrel, Caesars, Bellagios and Mirage would disagree.

Chick wondered aloud as to why that never happened to us.  Of course all our smart a*s friends said she needed to walk 10 feet farther away from me.  Ladies night is alive and well out there.   
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: wadesworld on June 11, 2015, 09:22:46 AM
And young attractive girls get absolutely fawned over by the casinos.  My daughter and her friends were out there celebrating someones 21st birthday after the fact a couple summers ago.  EVERY night they were comped into the hottest clubs, often with FREE bottle service.  Casino hosts would literally stop them in the various casinos and ask them to attend that evening or the next.  So for all you guys who think Marquette girls are the bottom of the barrel, Caesars, Bellagios and Mirage would disagree.

Chick wondered aloud as to why that never happened to us.  Of course all our smart a*s friends said she needed to walk 10 feet farther away from me.  Ladies night is alive and well out there.   

It's easier to get those perks than people make it seem.  We got that treatment at XS, skipped the line, didn't pay cover, and got a VIP table all for free with 6 guys and 2 girls.  Just need to know someone who works in business in the area.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rstein27 on June 11, 2015, 09:26:58 AM
Oh look P, I found a picture of you guys!

(https://myrottingbrain.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/vlcsnap-2011-05-04-20h59m19s8.png)

A cold Millers Lite to anyone who can identify this movie without Googling the image.

The Wizard...aka the "90 minute commercial for Nintendo"!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: frozena pizza on June 11, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
It's easier to get those perks than people make it seem.  We got that treatment at XS, skipped the line, didn't pay cover, and got a VIP table all for free with 6 guys and 2 girls.  Just need to know someone who works in business in the area.

It definitely helps to set things up ahead of time or know the right person, or go to places on slower nights (unless you are a group of smoking hot girls in which case you can do whatever you want).  I was there for a bachelor party like 10 years ago so we had a group of 10-12 guys ranging from late 20s to early 40s.  I was with a subset of the group that hired a "nightlife host" for around $100.  Basically this is a super hot girl that makes sure you get easy entry into any club and can arrange transportation, reservations, tickets or whatever.  Definitely worth the price and more.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 11, 2015, 09:55:04 AM
It definitely helps to set things up ahead of time or know the right person, or go to places on slower nights (unless you are a group of smoking hot girls in which case you can do whatever you want).  I was there for a bachelor party like 10 years ago so we had a group of 10-12 guys ranging from late 20s to early 40s.  I was with a subset of the group that hired a "nightlife host" for around $100.  Basically this is a super hot girl that makes sure you get easy entry into any club and can arrange transportation, reservations, tickets or whatever.  Definitely worth the price and more.

Thanks, frozena.  I just figured out what my retirement job is going to be.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 11, 2015, 10:15:58 AM



A cold Millers Lite to anyone who can identify this movie without Googling the image.

Lite? not worth the price of admission
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: LAMUfan on June 11, 2015, 10:26:43 AM
I'll be in Vegas tomorrow for a bachelor party doing bachelory party things, perfect timing for this thread.  Scoop for the win!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 🏀 on June 11, 2015, 10:44:12 AM
Oh look P, I found a picture of you guys!

(https://myrottingbrain.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/vlcsnap-2011-05-04-20h59m19s8.png)

A cold Millers Lite to anyone who can identify this movie without Googling the image.

Oh man, I wish.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 11, 2015, 11:01:13 AM
It definitely helps to set things up ahead of time or know the right person, or go to places on slower nights (unless you are a group of smoking hot girls in which case you can do whatever you want).  I was there for a bachelor party like 10 years ago so we had a group of 10-12 guys ranging from late 20s to early 40s.  I was with a subset of the group that hired a "nightlife host" for around $100.  Basically this is a super hot girl that makes sure you get easy entry into any club and can arrange transportation, reservations, tickets or whatever.  Definitely worth the price and more.

Absolutely right and that's a legitimate above board job in Vegas.  Both men and women fill the role.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 11, 2015, 11:03:27 AM
I will second the Red Rocks. Awesome.

Awesome.  Was there just this past Sunday. Desert was in bloom.  Beautiful.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on June 11, 2015, 11:13:59 AM
And young attractive girls get absolutely fawned over by the casinos.  My daughter and her friends were out there celebrating someones 21st birthday after the fact a couple summers ago.  EVERY night they were comped into the hottest clubs, often with FREE bottle service.  Casino hosts would literally stop them in the various casinos and ask them to attend that evening or the next.  So for all you guys who think Marquette girls are the bottom of the barrel, Caesars, Bellagios and Mirage would disagree.

Chick wondered aloud as to why that never happened to us.  Of course all our smart a*s friends said she needed to walk 10 feet farther away from me.  Ladies night is alive and well out there.  

Same thing happened to my wife when she was there with some friends when she was 22. Drank for free the entire time she was there.

I went there last year for a work conferece and got no such treatment. Still had a great time though, won $3k on penny slots and an extra $100 at the sports book.

OP, my suggestion would be stroll around and just take it in. It is free and entertaining. I enjoyed walking through the Forum Shops at Caesars. So much high-end stuff it will blow your mind. I especially enjoyed the high-end watch stores. Where else in the world can you try on $30,000 watches, just for fun, with no intention of buying?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 11, 2015, 11:42:25 AM
Get Pete Rose to sign an autograph for you
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 11, 2015, 11:59:26 AM
Get Pete Rose to sign an autograph for you

I saw The Fridge (RIP) signing autographs there once.  Also, Dick Butkus.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: MUWarrior2007 on June 11, 2015, 12:11:34 PM
I saw The Fridge (RIP) signing autographs there once.  Also, Dick Butkus.

Ummm, The Fridge isn't dead...
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 11, 2015, 12:16:09 PM
So for all you guys who think Marquette girls are the bottom of the barrel...

I have heard USC guys complain about the local talent...I think it is more a function of crashing and burning than not having enough worthy bogies

Like you I married a Marquette girl. The only thing I will say is that the 9 months of WI winter adds layers of fat and fleece that are non-existent in Austin and Tucson...   
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: JuniorCardigan on June 11, 2015, 12:17:31 PM
Go out to eat with cousin Eddie and make sure to order some of the yellow
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 11, 2015, 12:33:22 PM
Ummm, The Fridge isn't dead...

Hmmm...why did I think he was?

Maybe I was just thinking about his career.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on June 11, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
Back to the Vegas advice..... You always double down on 11, baby
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on June 11, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
The Wizard...aka the "90 minute commercial for Nintendo"!

That was Reno... a/k/a Benny's Las Vegas.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on June 11, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
Back to the Vegas advice..... You always double down on 11, baby

+1

And split when you get two 8s!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: wadesworld on June 11, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
Reopened as part of the Linq.

A first timer should always walk the strip and gawk at the casinos.  Best free attraction are the Bellagio fountains.  They are as cool as they seem from that scene in Ocean's Eleven.  And I'd STRONGLY recommend Fremont East.  It's downtown and cutting edge.  Joints like Griffin and Beauty Bar.  Been an amazing resurgence from scary to urban hip in 36 months.

PM chick or me if you like.  We have a home in Summerlin and get out there multiple times a year, mostly for the great weather.  We're actually not gamblers very much.

Just hand the kid the keys already.

Speaking of keys for a house out west, anybody have a place relatively close to Cannon Beach, OR that they wouldn't mind a complete stranger use for a week?  Been itching to get back there since the second I left.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on June 11, 2015, 02:06:33 PM
+1

And split when you get two 8s!


I'd rather have one 16 instead of two 18s when the dealer's showing a 9 or paint.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 11, 2015, 02:37:38 PM
While walkin' The Strip, if some random broad axs ya if ya got the time, just say its 'bout 7 o'clock, hey?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on June 11, 2015, 03:08:03 PM

I'd rather have one 16 instead of two 18s when the dealer's showing a 9 or paint.

True. Depends on what dealer is showing.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 11, 2015, 03:44:39 PM
While walkin' The Strip, if some random broad axs ya if ya got the time, just say its 'bout 7 o'clock, hey?

I feel like I pigeon held you with jokes by saying I wasn't into hookers ;)
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 11, 2015, 04:46:23 PM
Clubs are all about if you know people. I was lucky enough to get into Tao for free with free drinks all night because my dad is friends with the matire'd at Delmonaco.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 11, 2015, 05:22:00 PM
if you do decide to take a couple hours off-terry fator is the best show in vegas and super reasonable compared to others.  at the mirage-the best singing ventriloquist i've ever seen.  does everyone from axel rose to michael jackson to louis armstrong right on.  you'll schmit your pants

gotta see binions downtown-one of the last "old time" casinos with the $$million under glass.  great odds at the crap table. as long as you're in the neighborhood-  the pool area at the golden nugget is pretty cool with the big aquarium in the middle

take the tour around the pool at top of mirage=bare :o

a dog at pinks!  get the brooklyn pastrami swiss cheese dog and/or the bacon chili cheese dog-outside of planet hollywood at the beginning of the miracle mile-you've never had a hot dog like this.  make sure ya got matches for the library the next day





Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Jay Bee on June 11, 2015, 07:04:36 PM
Mariah Carey show!

If you're there at some convention that sounds like it's mostly for chicks, you should link up with chicks at the conference. Go out with them, be the last man standing if you're disgusting, and hook it up.

In & Out is also good for a meal.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 11, 2015, 07:13:26 PM
you've never had a hot dog like this.  make sure ya got matches for the library the next day

What's with the matches? Share the experience!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 11, 2015, 07:46:26 PM
I'm here for cosmetic surgery & aesthetic dermatology convention


Cosmetic surgeon convention? Are there any fake tits in Vegas?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 11, 2015, 09:04:47 PM

Cosmetic surgeon convention? Are there any fake tits in Vegas?

Funny my company actually sells those sadly there's no market out here :(

Went on those stratosphere rides, did the free fall, did New York New York, about to get a dog at Pink's! Thanks for all the recommendations lads and lass! Any more tips I'll appreciate!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on June 12, 2015, 10:19:23 AM
Any more tips I'll appreciate!
Place $100 on the Colts at 12-1.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 12, 2015, 10:42:42 AM
Place $100 on the Colts at 12-1.

After last night I don't have $100...stupid Paris took everything I won at Ceasars Palace.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 12, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
After last night I don't have $100...stupid Paris took everything I won at Ceasars Palace.

Paris killed me too when I was there. Craps tables were ice cold.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 12, 2015, 10:58:08 AM
I once knew a friend of a friend who went through his entire bankroll BEFORE he even checked into his hotel.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on June 12, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
I once knew a friend of a friend who went through his entire bankroll BEFORE he even checked into his hotel.

That's why you always take the cab directly from McCarren to your hotel... no detours to the bunny ranch.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: JWags85 on June 12, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Paris killed me too when I was there. Craps tables were ice cold.

Blackjack tables in that stupid low fresco'd ceiling area murdered me a few years ago.  Highlighted by a Mexican guy in a bolo tie and large cowboy had sitting in first position and engaging in every move that encourages a table to contemplate murder.  Hitting on 15 against a 4? Check.  Staying on 14 against a face card?  Check.  Splitting 3s against a 7?  Check.  Even if the overall effect was minimal, the vibe and karma kills were massive.

I also avoid craps tables at Caesars and Bellagio, never had any luck.  Despite disliking both Planet Hollywood and Harrahs, Ive raked at both a few different times.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 12, 2015, 12:51:45 PM
Blackjack tables in that stupid low fresco'd ceiling area murdered me a few years ago.  Highlighted by a Mexican guy in a bolo tie and large cowboy had sitting in first position and engaging in every move that encourages a table to contemplate murder.  Hitting on 15 against a 4? Check.  Staying on 14 against a face card?  Check.  Splitting 3s against a 7?  Check.  Even if the overall effect was minimal, the vibe and karma kills were massive.

I also avoid craps tables at Caesars and Bellagio, never had any luck.  Despite disliking both Planet Hollywood and Harrahs, Ive raked at both a few different times.

I was rolling at Flamingo and Cromwell. I was shooting and got 5 out of the 6 points at each casino. Almost made people a lot of money with fire bet and also repeated some points and was hitting numbers the hard way. Table loved me over there.

It was funny, it was only me and my buddy starting out at the Cromwell table and by the end of my run, almost had the whole table full. Got a lot of tips from other players as well, bout $100 at Flamingo and $150 at Cromwell.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 12, 2015, 12:58:36 PM
Probably still got $4.95 for the all-you-eat buffet doe, hey?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 12, 2015, 02:06:13 PM
Funny my company actually sells those sadly there's no market out here :(

Went on those stratosphere rides, did the free fall, did New York New York, about to get a dog at Pink's! Thanks for all the recommendations lads and lass! Any more tips I'll appreciate!

hopefully you did the rides first unless ya want to taste the dogs twice ;D  enjoy
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 12, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
Probably still got $4.95 for the all-you-eat buffet doe, hey?

I never understood the whole Vegas buffet thing. Buffets are never good at any price.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 12, 2015, 03:04:26 PM
hopefully you did the rides first unless ya want to taste the dogs twice ;D  enjoy

Was actually surprised by how much I enjoyed those dogs. I'm usually very picky with hot dogs, I like them greasy and it wasn't though it was still delicious. Good call.

Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: JWags85 on June 12, 2015, 03:45:02 PM
I was rolling at Flamingo and Cromwell. I was shooting and got 5 out of the 6 points at each casino. Almost made people a lot of money with fire bet and also repeated some points and was hitting numbers the hard way. Table loved me over there.

It was funny, it was only me and my buddy starting out at the Cromwell table and by the end of my run, almost had the whole table full. Got a lot of tips from other players as well, bout $100 at Flamingo and $150 at Cromwell.

Is the Cromwell good?  I haven't been since it opened.  It was under construction 2 years ago and then last year I was at the complete other end of the Strip.  I'm heading to Vegas in a week and will check it out if it's worthwhile as I'm staying at Paris...funny enough
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 12, 2015, 08:53:09 PM
Is the Cromwell good?  I haven't been since it opened.  It was under construction 2 years ago and then last year I was at the complete other end of the Strip.  I'm heading to Vegas in a week and will check it out if it's worthwhile as I'm staying at Paris...funny enough

I like it a lot. Very clean, small casino but it was never over packed. Standard $10 minimums during the day. Didn't play blackjack there, but craps table was fair and roulette seemed fair the one time I played it. Probably my favorite spot that trip.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 13, 2015, 01:09:14 AM

Suggestions please!

I had an epiphany while running my six tonight...the Porn Industry has an annual pow wow and awards gala in Vegas every January. Their gig runs the same time as a Red Flag Fighter Weapons Exercise. Red Flags have a couple hundred fighter pilots from the USAF, USN, USMC, NATO and anyone who flies F 16s. The merge of fighter pilots and porn starlets tearing up Vegas at once is breathtaking.

I had a couple buddies who flew B-1s (affectionately known as the BOne) for the KS Air Guard (aka KANG) which sent a six ship to play in Red Flag. The Bone drivers, knowing their TDY was the same time as the porn convention had those lick and stick squadron zappers made up and were running around town applying them to various body parts of porn starlets.

I watched as my buddy Coma asked a rather well known starlet if she would like to be "Boned by the KANG." She seriously contemplated that and replied, "I don't think I've ever done that!" When Coma explained it was a lick and stick squadron tattoo she immediately flopped one out and allowed Coma to generously moisten the target before attaching the KANG Bone to her bosom as a crowd of onlookers cheered him on with tremendous gusto.

I am not a particular fan of Vegas but it is guaranteed laugh if you hit town when the porn industry is gathered there.


 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 13, 2015, 04:14:42 AM
I had an epiphany while running my six tonight...the Porn Industry has an annual pow wow and awards gala in Vegas every January. Their gig runs the same time as a Red Flag Fighter Weapons Exercise. Red Flags have a couple hundred fighter pilots from the USAF, USN, USMC, NATO and anyone who flies F 16s. The merge of fighter pilots and porn starlets tearing up Vegas at once is breathtaking.

I had a couple buddies who flew B-1s (affectionately known as the BOne) for the KS Air Guard (aka KANG) which sent a six ship to play in Red Flag. The Bone drivers, knowing their TDY was the same time as the porn convention had those lick and stick squadron zappers made up and were running around town applying them to various body parts of porn starlets.

I watched as my buddy Coma asked a rather well known starlet if she would like to be "Boned by the KANG." She seriously contemplated that and replied, "I don't think I've ever done that!" When Coma explained it was a lick and stick squadron tattoo she immediately flopped one out and allowed Coma to generously moisten the target before attaching the KANG Bone to her bosom as a crowd of onlookers cheered him on with tremendous gusto.

I am not a particular fan of Vegas but it is guaranteed laugh if you hit town when the porn industry is gathered there.


 

even the porn people need a little lovin every now and then heynie?  otherwise, it's just another job ?-(
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 14, 2015, 06:59:19 AM
I had an epiphany while running my six tonight...the Porn Industry has an annual pow wow and awards gala in Vegas every January. Their gig runs the same time as a Red Flag Fighter Weapons Exercise. Red Flags have a couple hundred fighter pilots from the USAF, USN, USMC, NATO and anyone who flies F 16s. The merge of fighter pilots and porn starlets tearing up Vegas at once is breathtaking.

I had a couple buddies who flew B-1s (affectionately known as the BOne) for the KS Air Guard (aka KANG) which sent a six ship to play in Red Flag. The Bone drivers, knowing their TDY was the same time as the porn convention had those lick and stick squadron zappers made up and were running around town applying them to various body parts of porn starlets.

I watched as my buddy Coma asked a rather well known starlet if she would like to be "Boned by the KANG." She seriously contemplated that and replied, "I don't think I've ever done that!" When Coma explained it was a lick and stick squadron tattoo she immediately flopped one out and allowed Coma to generously moisten the target before attaching the KANG Bone to her bosom as a crowd of onlookers cheered him on with tremendous gusto.

I am not a particular fan of Vegas but it is guaranteed laugh if you hit town when the porn industry is gathered there.


 

Awesome story.  My favorite sport in Vegas is people watching. 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 77ncaachamps on June 14, 2015, 10:04:39 PM
Wow. Didn't know Fremont street got upgraded.

It's the "old" Vegas, pre-strip.

But it was seedy. Good to hear it's cleaning its act up.

If that's the case, its a better place for slots. They're usually looser there.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 15, 2015, 01:19:00 AM
its a better place for slots. They're usually looser there.

They are all tight for some of us...
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 15, 2015, 08:10:48 AM
Wow. Didn't know Fremont street got upgraded.

It's the "old" Vegas, pre-strip.

But it was seedy. Good to hear it's cleaning its act up.

If that's the case, its a better place for slots. They're usually looser there.

still not sure that i like the canopy over the street-it is pretty cool when they run sports scores on it.  the golden nugget cleaned up pretty good and had a fantastic meal at their steak joint-vic anthony's.  have to trot over to binions just to say you were there-lots of chit went down there over the days-i mean real chit that makes the rest of vegas look like disney
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on June 15, 2015, 10:11:23 AM
I had an epiphany while running my six tonight...the Porn Industry has an annual pow wow and awards gala in Vegas every January. Their gig runs the same time as a Red Flag Fighter Weapons Exercise. Red Flags have a couple hundred fighter pilots from the USAF, USN, USMC, NATO and anyone who flies F 16s. The merge of fighter pilots and porn starlets tearing up Vegas at once is breathtaking.

I had a couple buddies who flew B-1s (affectionately known as the BOne) for the KS Air Guard (aka KANG) which sent a six ship to play in Red Flag. The Bone drivers, knowing their TDY was the same time as the porn convention had those lick and stick squadron zappers made up and were running around town applying them to various body parts of porn starlets.

I watched as my buddy Coma asked a rather well known starlet if she would like to be "Boned by the KANG." She seriously contemplated that and replied, "I don't think I've ever done that!" When Coma explained it was a lick and stick squadron tattoo she immediately flopped one out and allowed Coma to generously moisten the target before attaching the KANG Bone to her bosom as a crowd of onlookers cheered him on with tremendous gusto.

I am not a particular fan of Vegas but it is guaranteed laugh if you hit town when the porn industry is gathered there.


 

Wait a sec... where was his squadron tattoo?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 15, 2015, 10:22:29 AM
They are all tight for some of us...


What's so bad 'bout a tight slot, hey?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 15, 2015, 10:56:55 AM
Wow. Didn't know Fremont street got upgraded.

It's the "old" Vegas, pre-strip.

But it was seedy. Good to hear it's cleaning its act up.

If that's the case, its a better place for slots. They're usually looser there.

Yeah.  Vegas changes so quickly that I wouldn't necessarily take the advice of anyone who hasn't been there in the last couple of years.  No offense.   :-*
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 15, 2015, 08:49:58 PM
Wait a sec... where was his squadron tattoo?

I am not sure if Coma has a tat. What has always amazed me is I have seen a lot of guys engaged in the most outrageous behavior while in the murky depths of alcohol-fueled depravity...and know that they are now hauling paying customers around the world for UA, AA, Delta, etc...

Coma flies the line for AA out of DFW...

"This is your Captain speaking..."

 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 77ncaachamps on June 17, 2015, 12:05:29 PM
Yeah.  Vegas changes so quickly that I wouldn't necessarily take the advice of anyone who hasn't been there in the last couple of years.  No offense.   :-*

No offense taken, especially when you use a kiss emoji.

 ;)

Does your hubby know?

 :o
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 17, 2015, 12:08:23 PM
No offense taken, especially when you use a kiss emoji.

 ;)

Does your hubby know?

 :o

I kiss everybody.  He's used to it.   ;)
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 17, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
Blackjack tables in that stupid low fresco'd ceiling area murdered me a few years ago.  Highlighted by a Mexican guy in a bolo tie and large cowboy had sitting in first position and engaging in every move that encourages a table to contemplate murder.  Hitting on 15 against a 4? Check.  Staying on 14 against a face card?  Check.  Splitting 3s against a 7?  Check.  Even if the overall effect was minimal, the vibe and karma kills were massive.

I also avoid craps tables at Caesars and Bellagio, never had any luck.  Despite disliking both Planet Hollywood and Harrahs, Ive raked at both a few different times.

Paris is where I had my single worse Blackjack experience that nearly sent me into a murderous rage.  Full $5 table at Paris late morning on a Tuesday, with everyone playing the right way except for the loose cannon next to me but even he hadn't been too bad.  I'm a progressive better with blackjack and had been on a heater so I had $150 down.  Cards come out and I've got a pair of Aces with the dealer showing a 6...I'm in heaven.  Everyone stays until we get to the a$$hat next to me who has a pair of kings and decides to F'ing split them....draws a queen and a 10.  I'm next and split my aces, get a 6 and a 7.  Last guy stays, dealer has 16, hits and draws a 3!  I went from winning $450 to losing $300 because this jack wagon didn't know how to play

Didn't play blackjack for a couple of days after that one....lot of craps though which is usually a blast
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 17, 2015, 01:48:38 PM
Paris is where I had my single worse Blackjack experience that nearly sent me into a murderous rage.  Full $5 table at Paris late morning on a Tuesday, with everyone playing the right way except for the loose cannon next to me but even he hadn't been too bad.  I'm a progressive better with blackjack and had been on a heater so I had $150 down.  Cards come out and I've got a pair of Aces with the dealer showing a 6...I'm in heaven.  Everyone stays until we get to the a$$hat next to me who has a pair of kings and decides to F'ing split them....draws a queen and a 10.  I'm next and split my aces, get a 6 and a 7.  Last guy stays, dealer has 16, hits and draws a 3!  I went from winning $450 to losing $300 because this jack wagon didn't know how to play

Didn't play blackjack for a couple of days after that one....lot of craps though which is usually a blast

Navy

Isn't a card game, like flying a tactical jet, a matter of addressing probabilities based on an ever changing set of circumstances?

Complaining about the guy not behaving according to your construct is akin to Ivan launching a double digit SAM at you!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 17, 2015, 02:10:04 PM
Navy

Isn't a card game, like flying a tactical jet, a matter of addressing probabilities based on an ever changing set of circumstances?

Complaining about the guy not behaving according to your construct is akin to Ivan launching a double digit SAM at you!

It's really more like the air planner scheduling some fast movers to be over your IP 5 minutes before you show up....they're just warming them up for you to take the golden BB
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on June 17, 2015, 09:53:12 PM
It's really more like the air planner scheduling some fast movers to be over your IP 5 minutes before you show up....they're just warming them up for you to take the golden BB

No such thing as a Golden BB to a Warthog. Damn thing is indestructible.

Now, the F/A-18...sometimes just the pilot farting in the cockpit doinks up the Maintenance FMC rate...
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 18, 2015, 08:20:32 AM
No such thing as a Golden BB to a Warthog. Damn thing is indestructible.

Now, the F/A-18...sometimes just the pilot farting in the cockpit doinks up the Maintenance FMC rate...

Eh not everyone needs to ride a cast iron tub to work....some of us are good enough to avoid getting hit in the first place.  ;)
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 🏀 on January 30, 2016, 12:22:16 AM
Vegas in May. Haven't been in a couple years, what's good for hotels?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: wadesworld on January 30, 2016, 12:31:51 AM
Vegas in May. Haven't been in several years, what's good for hotels?

Stayed in a suite and a connected regular room at the MGM with 5 others a few years ago for really cheap. Nothing to complain about with the setup.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 30, 2016, 07:21:55 AM
Vegas in May. Haven't been in several years, what's good for hotels?

Depends on how old ya are and what you're looking for...may is usually pretty hot, I mean temperature-95 to 105 or so not unusual. Yes it's a dry heat. Way different than our 85-90. The pools at hard rock, mirage, mandolay bay has about 7, and Caesars would be my "go to" if I were young and single or just for the, ahem, cough cough entertainment

Sports books- mirage, bellagio, mandolay or aria are my favs,

Food.... All depends on what ya want, from 1$ foot longs to sushi and steak....ask your concierge-everyone has the best....  So go for 2nd best?  I like the monte Carlos steak place-brand steakhouse- it's very good and moderately priced-get the cowboy prime rib on the tomahawk chop bone. Craft steak at mgm is good and the one at mandolay bay is really good.  As I've said a few times on this board-pinks hot dogs outside of planet Hollywood is a treat as you can't get them anywhere west of there.  Sushi in roku-3rd floor of Caesars shops fantastic food and view of the strip

Must see show-terry fator-mirage. Inexpensive relatively speaking and you will want to see him again. Google him and you'll see some of his chit. A singing ventriloquist mimics everyone from guns n roses to Louis Armstrong. Unbelievable
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 30, 2016, 10:24:58 AM
The Filipinos on the street have never steered me wrong.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 30, 2016, 12:04:53 PM
Yeah, but ya gotta wear 2 condoms, ai na?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 30, 2016, 05:09:13 PM
The Filipinos on the street have never steered me wrong.

so, do you get a deal on more than one at a time?  you did say-filipinoS 'ey
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 31, 2016, 12:29:41 AM
I like the flamingo personally. My dad almost always stays off the strip now, saves you a lot of money if you're not on the strip.

For dinner my favorite place is Delmonico's steak house. Awesome place.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 31, 2016, 09:19:40 AM
i just got back from vegas yesterday afternoon-they are feeling the pinch and some of their ways to combat it?  i wonder how this may or may not work out for them-

  MGM has started-they have eliminated ALL smoking rooms-i really don't care either way, but we'll see what happens there.  rumors are they will start to shrink/eliminate smoking in the casinos-that would be a death sentence as many of the gamblers probably triple their rate of smoking while playing-taking away their mojo
                           
         wiped the slate clean of all accumulated points as of 10/1/2015
     
      that one pissed me off because i was mid to high gold level, getting close to the platinum level. i will be calling M-life to see what that's all about because many of the workers still did not fully understand that move.  i still have a fully comp'd suite for march madness at monte carlo-yeah, i know, we'll see how free it was when i check out ::)

                          there is talk that they are going to start charging for valet and parking even if you are staying at the hotel.  we were just in nashville last summer.  stayed at the hermitage.  one of the premier hotels in the city.  we got it for a pretty good deal at $350 per night.  prices can go much higher depending on S & D -over $400 +  they still charged us for parking!!!!

    those are just a few of the changes that are coming, not to mention if they are tightening up the slots, raising the min. bets even during off hours, resort fees, etc etc

with the increase in gaming options, vegas is slowly pricing itself out of the leisure industry.  i still love the city and will continue to go 4-5 times per year mainly because we fly into/out on our way to havasu city.  it will be interesting to see how they try to maintain-what will their new marketing ploy be?

btw-they halted construction of a 2nd giant ferris wheel. 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on January 31, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
Eh not everyone needs to ride a cast iron tub to work....some of us are good enough to avoid getting hit in the first place.  ;)

Isn't it better to be fat, ugly, and happy than svelte, beautiful, and pissed off?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on January 31, 2016, 11:43:48 AM
we were just in nashville last summer.  stayed at the hermitage.  one of the premier hotels in the city.  we got it for a pretty good deal at $350 per night.  prices can go much higher depending on S & D -over $400 +  they still charged us for parking!!!!


Being on the government dole I was happy to drive with the wife to Boise where we would get a deluxe room at the Econo Lodge for the weekend.

I should have gone to dental school I guess but I have an irrational fear of pruned fingers...
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Jay Bee on January 31, 2016, 11:47:07 AM
                          there is talk that they are going to start charging for valet and parking even if you are staying at the hotel.  we were just in nashville last summer.  stayed at the hermitage.  one of the premier hotels in the city.  we got it for a pretty good deal at $350 per night.  prices can go much higher depending on S & D -over $400 +  they still charged us for parking!!!!

Of the millions of hotels I've stayed at during business travel, the Hermitage is one of my all time favorites. In '97 they had a key offering most hotels didn't -- a telephone within arm's reach of the sh1tter.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 31, 2016, 11:47:24 AM
But, ya coulda been a gynecologist, hey?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 31, 2016, 11:48:17 AM
Peninsula is tits, hey?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on January 31, 2016, 12:05:29 PM
Peninsula is tits, hey?

Very nice stay but the Raffles is better
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on January 31, 2016, 12:06:26 PM
But, ya coulda been a gynecologist, hey?

Sometimes being a fighter pilot felt like being a gyno...
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on January 31, 2016, 12:24:02 PM
Of the millions of hotels I've stayed at during business travel, the Hermitage is one of my all time favorites. In '97 they had a key offering most hotels didn't -- a telephone within arm's reach of the sh1tter.

Pfister had those.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 31, 2016, 12:48:25 PM

Being on the government dole I was happy to drive with the wife to Boise where we would get a deluxe room at the Econo Lodge for the weekend.

I should have gone to dental school I guess but I have an irrational fear of pruned fingers...

we are kinda like proctologists though, except many people try to talk thru the area we work in...many times we say-their breath smells the same but their faces look a little different-heyna?

the hermitage-gotta talk to the wife as i'd be more than happy to stay at that place where they leave the light on fer ya

phone in the chitter-seems most of the vegas rooms have that-don't understand this, but before cell phones, maybe so ya don't miss a beat with the bookie or just in case ya have an "austin powers" moment
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: BM1090 on January 31, 2016, 10:40:11 PM
I went to Vegas for a quick 2 nights this past weekend. Someone earlier said O'sheas was closed, but it's definitely open, as we went there for a few hours the first night. It's inside The Linq. We stayed at Bally's and it was about $100 per night. Not bad.

I've been to Vegas now and I've had my best blackjack experiences at Bally's and my worst at Paris. Everyone at Bally's seems to know what they're doing, and if they are in a questionable spot they usually ask the dealer what the book says. Of course, I won $800 at Bally's in two nights playing $10 tables, so i could be a bit biased.

Caesar's was my favorite sportsbook. Tons of TV's and lots of stations open so you don't have to wait too long to place your bets. It was even open at 5:30 AM for the first premier league game.

Bellagio is nice and it's a good atmosphere, but not going to find many cheap tables there. Flamingo had some cheap tables.

Final recommendation: don't be the angry guy at the casino. There's always someone who acts like he can't believe he's losing and gets real pissy. Anticipate losing (or at least go in knowing it's a good possibility). If you come away positive, all the sweeter.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on February 01, 2016, 12:01:02 PM

Being on the government dole I was happy to drive with the wife to Boise where we would get a deluxe room at the Econo Lodge for the weekend.

I should have gone to dental school I guess but I have an irrational fear of pruned fingers...

Sun Valley, baby.  It's just like Vegas, only without the glitz and legalized gambling.  And the hookers typically have a bit more clothing.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on February 01, 2016, 12:02:50 PM
Of the millions of hotels I've stayed at during business travel, the Hermitage is one of my all time favorites. In '97 they had a key offering most hotels didn't -- a telephone within arm's reach of the sh1tter.

I've noticed that the Silver Legacy in Reno and Mystic Lake have them too.  Must be a casino thing.  Can't figure out why.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on February 01, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
keefe, was just driving back into vegas the other day coming down 15 past Nellis.  All in about 15 seconds four twin tail fighter jets (F-18s ?) take off to the north,  immediately go nearly vertical and bank hard left quickly pairing up and disappearing to the NW.  My thought was 'cool..... hope everything's okay'.

Again, thanks for carrying the sidearm brother. 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: MU82 on February 01, 2016, 01:57:40 PM
Here's a valuable "don't" for you in Vegas:

Don't bet against the Panthers!

Keep Pounding, baby!!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on February 01, 2016, 02:39:46 PM
keefe, was just driving back into vegas the other day coming down 15 past Nellis.  All in about 15 seconds four twin tail fighter jets (F-18s ?) take off to the north,  immediately go nearly vertical and bank hard left quickly pairing up and disappearing to the NW.  My thought was 'cool..... hope everything's okay'.

Again, thanks for carrying the sidearm brother.

Red Flag at its finest. The finest training environment in the world.

From what you wrote, and because it's Nellis, I am guessing you saw a four ship of Eagles go into a battle box. As cool as that launch was the real fun was going to unfold at +15 when those Eagles jumped whatever Red Force Aggressors were flying inbound. The most fun a man can have with his clothes on.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on February 01, 2016, 04:03:03 PM
Red Flag at its finest. The finest training environment in the world.

From what you wrote, and because it's Nellis, I am guessing you saw a four ship of Eagles go into a battle box. As cool as that launch was the real fun was going to unfold at +15 when those Eagles jumped whatever Red Force Aggressors were flying inbound. The most fun a man can have with his clothes on.

Gotcha.  And a 'battle' over Area 51 that some crazy thought was an alien.  The maneuver I got to witness right off the strip was impressive enough.  Man those things were nimble.   
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on June 23, 2016, 12:53:30 AM
I've noticed that the Silver Legacy in Reno and Mystic Lake have them too.  Must be a casino thing.  Can't figure out why.

Unlawful carnage me in the goat ass.  Mystic Lake no longer has phones in the shiitter. Replaced with 4 god damn USB ports.   So I can charge my iPad - along with three buddies' iPads - but I can't call 911 if I blow a gasket. Or 900-something if I can't.

Mother fukking millenials.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 🏀 on June 23, 2016, 06:35:29 AM
Unlawful carnage me in the goat ass.  Mystic Lake no longer has phones in the shiitter. Replaced with 4 god damn USB ports.   So I can charge my iPad - along with three buddies' iPads - but I can't call 911 if I blow a gasket. Or 900-something if I can't.

Mother fukking millenials.

I'm sure your bathroom foursome appreciated it though.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 23, 2016, 07:22:30 AM

Final recommendation: don't be the angry guy at the casino. There's always someone who acts like he can't believe he's losing and gets real pissy. Anticipate losing (or at least go in knowing it's a good possibility). If you come away positive, all the sweeter.

Now that this thread has been revived.

+10 on the comment above.  So I'm standing in a quiet corner of the Golden Nugget last week just checking on chick's flight out on my phone and this Oriental guy goes ballistic at the high roller table not 10 feet from where I was standing.  Pit boss trying to calm him while calling up for a video replay, security standing discretely about 15 feet away over my shoulder.  I watch for a few seconds a wee bit rattled by the commotion, then walk over to the Charthouse bar where I know all the bartenders quite well and tell the story.  They all immediately know who this assclown is because he blows up like this every time he is in town.  Sure he gambles a ton and gives big money to the casino but what a pain.

Anyway, we got to talking about how a little kindness goes so very far in Vegas.  Chick and I are very small time gamers.  But we treat our waitstaff like gold even developing friendships outside the casino and benefit as a result.  I've seen guys hit the Jackpot Royal Flush and give their bartender $2.  I've seen many more play an hour, get a couple drinks, and leave nothing.  Stupid if you ask me.  There's 3 types in Vegas.  The anonymous, the one's who get negative reputations, and friends.  If you go frequently, work to get in camp three.     
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 23, 2016, 09:00:45 AM
Now that this thread has been revived.

+10 on the comment above.  So I'm standing in a quiet corner of the Golden Nugget last week just checking on chick's flight out on my phone and this Oriental guy goes ballistic at the high roller table not 10 feet from where I was standing.  Pit boss trying to calm him while calling up for a video replay, security standing discretely about 15 feet away over my shoulder.  I watch for a few seconds a wee bit rattled by the commotion, then walk over to the Charthouse bar where I know all the bartenders quite well and tell the story.  They all immediately know who this assclown is because he blows up like this every time he is in town.  Sure he gambles a ton and gives big money to the casino but what a pain.

Anyway, we got to talking about how a little kindness goes so very far in Vegas.  Chick and I are very small time gamers.  But we treat our waitstaff like gold even developing friendships outside the casino and benefit as a result.  I've seen guys hit the Jackpot Royal Flush and give their bartender $2.  I've seen many more play an hour, get a couple drinks, and leave nothing.  Stupid if you ask me.  There's 3 types in Vegas.  The anonymous, the one's who get negative reputations, and friends.  If you go frequently, work to get in camp three.     

First, I think the term oriental is a bit dated Glow, not sayin' just sayin' ;)

Second, I couldn't agree more with the kindness aspect and not just in Vegas, but when gambling generally. I'm not a degenerate gambler(though it might sound like it) but via various friend groups or weekend golf outings I end up at casino's at least a 6 or 7 times a year(once or twice might be Vegas). I play either craps or blackjack and tipping your dealers, especially when you win goes a long way toward making things more fun and getting good intel. The results won't change but I will wager for my dealer, especially if they are interesting and they really appreciate the effort. It helps spark conversation and can really get a table to be a lot of fun. Trading war stories, insight, and jokes makes for a fun experience and since I'm probably breaking even at best in the long run I'm really there for the entertainment. Also, the dealers have a lot of influence on drink service and on crazy busy nights, being cozy with dealers has gotten drinks a heckuva lot faster it would normally.

My experience anyway

Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 23, 2016, 09:07:10 AM
First, I think the term oriental is a bit dated Glow, not sayin' just sayin' ;)

Perhaps.  Maybe Asian better?  Truth is I didn't know if he was Chinese or Japanese.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 23, 2016, 09:13:42 AM

Second, I couldn't agree more with the kindness aspect and not just in Vegas, but when gambling generally. I'm not a degenerate gambler(though it might sound like it) but via various friend groups or weekend golf outings I end up at casino's at least a 6 or 7 times a year(once or twice might be Vegas). I play either craps or blackjack and tipping your dealers, especially when you win goes a long way toward making things more fun and getting good intel. The results won't change but I will wager for my dealer, especially if they are interesting and they really appreciate the effort. It helps spark conversation and can really get a table to be a lot of fun. Trading war stories, insight, and jokes makes for a fun experience and since I'm probably breaking even at best in the long run I'm really there for the entertainment. Also, the dealers have a lot of influence on drink service and on crazy busy nights, being cozy with dealers has gotten drinks a heckuva lot faster it would normally.

My experience anyway

So this past week, chick hit her first Royal ever and appropriately tipped our regular bartender who happens to be a true friend.  For the rest of the weekend I couldn't buy a pair of Jacks and while my usual tip of folding money was in the glass, we both got a big laugh out of me tossing in an actual quarter into the bottom with the clinking sound echoing around the bar.  As our friend said 'Win some, lose some'.  All good.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 23, 2016, 09:38:21 AM
Perhaps.  Maybe Asian better?  Truth is I didn't know if he was Chinese or Japanese.

Asian is the uniform default whether they are Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Thai, etc. Don't make the rules, just live by them :)
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 23, 2016, 09:40:00 AM
I am not a gambler at all since I'm cheap at heart and also still paying off student loans. Is there a good way to gamble and keep it affordable?
How much do you regular set aside for gambling?  Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I would think my burn rate would be a min of $40 an hour playing at the tables? Add in 10 hours of gambling over the course of the weekend, and it would adds up. I just don't see the fun of dropping $500 over the course of a weekend.

Part of me thinks the regulars do a lot better than me but then again the house always wins.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on June 23, 2016, 09:43:21 AM
Now that this thread has been revived.

+10 on the comment above.  So I'm standing in a quiet corner of the Golden Nugget last week just checking on chick's flight out on my phone and this Oriental guy goes ballistic at the high roller table not 10 feet from where I was standing.  Pit boss trying to calm him while calling up for a video replay, security standing discretely about 15 feet away over my shoulder.  I watch for a few seconds a wee bit rattled by the commotion, then walk over to the Charthouse bar where I know all the bartenders quite well and tell the story.  They all immediately know who this assclown is because he blows up like this every time he is in town.  Sure he gambles a ton and gives big money to the casino but what a pain.

Anyway, we got to talking about how a little kindness goes so very far in Vegas.  Chick and I are very small time gamers.  But we treat our waitstaff like gold even developing friendships outside the casino and benefit as a result.  I've seen guys hit the Jackpot Royal Flush and give their bartender $2.  I've seen many more play an hour, get a couple drinks, and leave nothing.  Stupid if you ask me.  There's 3 types in Vegas.  The anonymous, the one's who get negative reputations, and friends.  If you go frequently, work to get in camp three.     

lol "Oriental" ?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on June 23, 2016, 09:45:15 AM
Perhaps.  Maybe Asian better?  Truth is I didn't know if he was Chinese or Japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYOzUHnPJvU
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on June 23, 2016, 09:48:40 AM
I am not a gambler at all since I'm cheap at heart and also still paying off student loans. Is there a good way to gamble and keep it affordable?
How much do you regular set aside for gambling?  Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I would think my burn rate would be a min of $40 an hour playing at the tables? Add in 10 hours of gambling over the course of the weekend, and it would adds up. I just don't see the fun of dropping $500 over the course of a weekend.

Part of me thinks the regulars do a lot better than me but then again the house always wins.

In Vegas, sports books are a fun way to wager a small amount and get several hours of enjoyment. When I was at the Mandalay Bay for a work conference, I hit the sports book, put $20 on the Blackhawks, watched the game on the big screen with some other Chicagoans, got a free drink and walked away a winner. And that was a solid 2+ hours of fun, watching a team I like and winning a little bit too.

I then started betting on black at roulette ($10 bets), and won 5 in a row. Before you knew it, I was up $60.

Penny slots are another way to try to stretch your gambling dollar, although that can still go fast, and slots have bad odds.

I don't know enough about craps, but I think there are small wagers you can make when you aren't shooting the dice, and take turns between watching and gambling. Craps has good odds too.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 23, 2016, 10:08:05 AM
Perhaps.  Maybe Asian better?  Truth is I didn't know if he was Chinese or Japanese.

is his ethnicity even relevant to the story?
(not ragging on you just saying)
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 23, 2016, 10:17:39 AM
In Vegas, sports books are a fun way to wager a small amount and get several hours of enjoyment. When I was at the Mandalay Bay for a work conference, I hit the sports book, put $20 on the Blackhawks, watched the game on the big screen with some other Chicagoans, got a free drink and walked away a winner. And that was a solid 2+ hours of fun, watching a team I like and winning a little bit too.

I then started betting on black at roulette ($10 bets), and won 5 in a row. Before you knew it, I was up $60.

Penny slots are another way to try to stretch your gambling dollar, although that can still go fast, and slots have bad odds.

I don't know enough about craps, but I think there are small wagers you can make when you aren't shooting the dice, and take turns between watching and gambling. Craps has good odds too.

If you don't know what you are doing you can end up with a lot of money on the table. You can bet the come line with insurance and keep your bets manageable and as long as you are at a hot table some money and lots of fun are to be had. If the table is mediocre then doing some other betting ups the fun (hard ways, across the board, etc) but definitely can put a fair amount of money at risk to lose in one roll. Craps is ultimately great because of the action, but that's what the casino is gambling on so to speak, the action distracts you from all the ways you can lose money
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: JWags85 on June 23, 2016, 10:21:11 AM
I don't know enough about craps, but I think there are small wagers you can make when you aren't shooting the dice, and take turns between watching and gambling. Craps has good odds too.

If you're patient, you can stretch your money in craps, time wise.  Playing the pass line with odds gives you good odds against the house, you're participating with the table, and not laying out a ton.  People you seeing losing mountains quickly in craps are the ones make many wagers once the point is determined.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 23, 2016, 10:21:34 AM
I am not a gambler at all since I'm cheap at heart and also still paying off student loans. Is there a good way to gamble and keep it affordable?
How much do you regular set aside for gambling?  Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I would think my burn rate would be a min of $40 an hour playing at the tables? Add in 10 hours of gambling over the course of the weekend, and it would adds up. I just don't see the fun of dropping $500 over the course of a weekend.

Part of me thinks the regulars do a lot better than me but then again the house always wins.

Coleman's right, sports books are a good way to be entertained for several hours without too much risk.

I like blackjack for treading water with a group of friends, especially if the drink service is on top of their game. Find a $5 table, the dealer will help you play correctly(especially if you bet their tips) go with a couple of friends, talk to some strangers and have some drinks. Unless they bring in the closer or it's a dead table you should be able to tread water for a couple of hours, have some free drinks, make some new friends and be out no more than a $100

No matter what you choose to do, my advice is to find a game where people don't seem too serious and it's fairly full...should get some good socialization out of it if nothing else.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 23, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
If you're patient, you can stretch your money in craps, time wise.  Playing the pass line with odds gives you good odds against the house, you're participating with the table, and not laying out a ton.  People you seeing losing mountains quickly in craps are the ones make many wagers once the point is determined.

I agree with this analysis
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 23, 2016, 10:47:06 AM
I am not a gambler at all since I'm cheap at heart and also still paying off student loans. Is there a good way to gamble and keep it affordable?
How much do you regular set aside for gambling?  Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I would think my burn rate would be a min of $40 an hour playing at the tables? Add in 10 hours of gambling over the course of the weekend, and it would adds up. I just don't see the fun of dropping $500 over the course of a weekend.

Part of me thinks the regulars do a lot better than me but then again the house always wins.

I am not a big gambler either.  I am too cheap.  I think of the other stuff I could have done with that money and it puts me in a foul mood.

Here is the key to getting the most out of your gambling dollar.  First of all, stay out of the big strip casinos.  The payouts are usually worse and the minimums are high, especially on the weekend.  Go there for the clubs or the restaurants, but not for the gambling.

Go to a place downtown or slightly off the strip (Golden Nugget, The Grand, Orleans, Hooters) and sit down at a bar that has quarter video poker machines.  Put in $20 or $40.  A bartender will come up to you right away and get your drink order - no waiting for the cocktail waitress to come around.  After he gives you the drink and says "good luck" (the signal that he is comping you), immediately put a $5 bill into the tip glass, with the denomination clearly visible to him, and tip another buck every time he gets you a new one. You will never have an empty glass the entire time you are there.  Sometimes they will ask you to play "max credits" , which on a quarter machine is $1.25 per hand.  But they don't always, and even if they do, you only have to do it while they are paying attention.  Otherwise, $20 lasts a long time at a quarter per hand.

The downside is that if you do hit a big jackpot, the payout is lower.  The royal flush glow mentions that I won only paid me $62.50. But it's the first RF I have ever gotten in a decade and a half of playing video poker.  Most of the time I count my winnings this way:  "Well, I lost $20, but the bartender gave me 4 drinks that the snooty bartender at the Mirage would have charge me $7.50 apiece for, so really, I am up $10."
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: StillAWarrior on June 23, 2016, 12:37:02 PM
If you're patient, you can stretch your money in craps, time wise.  Playing the pass line with odds gives you good odds against the house, you're participating with the table, and not laying out a ton.  People you seeing losing mountains quickly in craps are the ones make many wagers once the point is determined.

I've been playing craps longer than I can remember -- we had a small table at home -- and it's a great game.  It's not terribly difficult to learn the basic betting practices that will minimize the house's advantage (i.e., as JWags said, playing pass/come with odds - I typically stick with up to three numbers at a time).  The most difficult thing, honestly, is being disciplined enough to steer clear of the stupid bets.  Playing craps "properly" is kind of mechanical...but the same can be said of other table games.  It is math, after all. 

One simple craps tip:  if the one of the dealers or the stick are suggesting a bet...there's a reason for that.  You won't hear them encouraging people to bet the pass/come with odds.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on June 23, 2016, 12:55:57 PM
As Eng alluded above, it doesn't really matter what you play... if you play smart and keep it under control, even $50 can last you several hours.  All too often, people get caught up in the excitement (which is what the casinos try to get you to do)... whether you're playing a penny slot and decide to double your bet and play 21 lines instead of 9 or you're sitting at the blackjack table and up your bet from the minimum because everyone else has big stacks of chips in front of them (and you want to get in on that), you can go broke in a hurry. 

Generally speaking, slot machines pay out anywhere from 85-105% of what they take in with averages in the low to mid 90s, so simple math would dictate you'll last a lot longer at the machines with smaller payouts on the top line (e.g. like Chick and Glow play at the bar).  If you're going for longevity at the table games, play at a full table... better yet, find the table with the most gray hair.

And never back a loss with a big bet more than once.  I sat at a quarter table last night playing the minimum, and the guy next to me lost $3,000 in a span of five minutes.  He started out playing two or three chips, lost a few hands in a row, and then started betting twice as much every new hand in an attempt to win his money back.  It was painful to watch - I've never seen someone play a McKinley at a quarter table (let alone double it and lose) - this guy was a seasoned player and he got his posterior handed to him because he couldn't keep it under control through a bad deck.  Whereas I sat at that table for three hours and walked away breaking even.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on June 23, 2016, 01:05:00 PM
I love craps. Last time I was in Vegas on two separate occasions when I was rolling I hit 5 out of the 6 points, doubling up on some and getting a lot of them hard way. I don't bet anything besides the pass line and odds so I didn't even make a killing from my own throws. But one lady gave me a $100 chip cause I won her so much and another guy gave me $50.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 23, 2016, 01:05:40 PM
most of the main, big name casinos are really raising the minimums on all the tables, even earlier in the day.  one used to be able to find $5 min from 5-6 a.m. until 2-3-4 pm depending on the time of the year and what's going on(super bowl, march madness, big conventions, spring break, etc.  some of the smaller casinos along the strip and downtown will have $2-3 tables. 

have they started to charge for valet parking yet?  i was last there in march and that was the talk
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 23, 2016, 01:11:04 PM
is his ethnicity even relevant to the story?
(not ragging on you just saying)

Actually, yes it was because it was his ethnicity and specific location that immediately allowed the staff to know exactly who I was talking about.  Let's not make this more than it is, mkay?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 23, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
most of the main, big name casinos are really raising the minimums on all the tables, even earlier in the day.  one used to be able to find $5 min from 5-6 a.m. until 2-3-4 pm depending on the time of the year and what's going on(super bowl, march madness, big conventions, spring break, etc.  some of the smaller casinos along the strip and downtown will have $2-3 tables. 

have they started to charge for valet parking yet?  i was last there in march and that was the talk

Not only valet brother!  Hearing that Strip parking is going to $20 at all MGM Corp. properties.  Town is in a total uproar.  Has to do with the new arena right down by NyNY and MGM.  Supposedly locals are exempt.  We'll see if my Summerlin town ID works.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 23, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
most of the main, big name casinos are really raising the minimums on all the tables, even earlier in the day.  one used to be able to find $5 min from 5-6 a.m. until 2-3-4 pm depending on the time of the year and what's going on(super bowl, march madness, big conventions, spring break, etc.  some of the smaller casinos along the strip and downtown will have $2-3 tables. 

have they started to charge for valet parking yet?  i was last there in march and that was the talk

http://www.latimes.com/travel/lasvegas/la-tr-las-vegas-parking-fees-begin-20160516-snap-story.html
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 23, 2016, 01:38:58 PM
Thinking about getting a rental car for 2 days. Is there free parking near the strip? I don't mind a walk.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 23, 2016, 02:09:59 PM
Thinking about getting a rental car for 2 days. Is there free parking near the strip? I don't mind a walk.

free?  well that depends on how well you do at the tables :-\  i doubt there is any municipal parking there.  never took notice of the side streets.  haven't been downtown in a few years.  i do love that city though, well not the city proper, but anywhere from the airport to the strip
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 23, 2016, 02:13:09 PM
Thinking about getting a rental car for 2 days. Is there free parking near the strip? I don't mind a walk.

Where are you staying?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 23, 2016, 02:39:19 PM
Sounds like an offer, hey?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on June 23, 2016, 02:51:27 PM
Haven't been to Vegas in a year or two....one thing I've always decried is there isn't a good sports pub within walking distance of the strip or downtown that isn't gambling centric. Sometimes I just want to go to a good pub, have a moderately priced beer or two, watch some sports and not have a bunch of noise going on around me. Haven't found a good place like that yet...ideas?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on June 23, 2016, 03:13:46 PM
Haven't been to Vegas in a year or two....one thing I've always decried is there isn't a good sports pub within walking distance of the strip or downtown that isn't gambling centric. Sometimes I just want to go to a good pub, have a moderately priced beer or two, watch some sports and not have a bunch of noise going on around me. Haven't found a good place like that yet...ideas?

Of course all of the sports bars on the strip are gambling centric.  Someone has to pay for that volcano.

We have always rented a car when we went to Vegas, even before we were homeowners.  Lots of cool stuff off the strip, including an honest-to-god Packer Bar full of memorabilia. 

http://www.bigdogsbrews.com/packers16/
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: DegenerateDish on June 23, 2016, 03:35:21 PM
Taking my wife to Vegas for her first ever trip there at end of July. Last November I was there for work, got upgraded to a wrap around terrace suite with fountain view at Cosmo (my favorite hotel there).

Vegas has turned into a restaurant destination more than anything else.

FWIW, I've always loved gambling at Hard Rock. Great dealers, friendly, I like it there.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: JWags85 on June 23, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
Taking my wife to Vegas for her first ever trip there at end of July. Last November I was there for work, got upgraded to a wrap around terrace suite with fountain view at Cosmo (my favorite hotel there).

My favorite as well.  Unfortunately I've yet to stay there, but I love their casino, the Chandelier bar is very cool, and Ive spent time at Marquee both during the day and night.  Its a great spot that does everything right.  Night and day compared to somewhere like Caesars that still trades on its name and brand equity despite being dated.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: DegenerateDish on June 23, 2016, 05:23:07 PM
My favorite as well.  Unfortunately I've yet to stay there, but I love their casino, the Chandelier bar is very cool, and Ive spent time at Marquee both during the day and night.  Its a great spot that does everything right.  Night and day compared to somewhere like Caesars that still trades on its name and brand equity despite being dated.

I will say Secret Pizza is way overrated to me. Their new sports book feels like it doesn't fit the feel of the rest of the casino, but the old sports book at Cosmo was horrendous.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on June 23, 2016, 05:25:53 PM
Getting a car enables one to get off the Strip for a road trip or two as well.  My first two recommendations would be a hike out at Red Rock National Rec Center (about 15 miles west of the north end of the Strip) as well as a trip to Hoover Dam and the new bridge.  Both are easy half day excursions.  I have seem moke excursions out to Red Rock so that's an option too.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: spartan3186 on June 23, 2016, 09:27:50 PM
Haven't been to Vegas in a year or two....one thing I've always decried is there isn't a good sports pub within walking distance of the strip or downtown that isn't gambling centric. Sometimes I just want to go to a good pub, have a moderately priced beer or two, watch some sports and not have a bunch of noise going on around me. Haven't found a good place like that yet...ideas?

There is a yard house near the Linq. Pretty good option for reasonable craft brew.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 24, 2016, 03:42:47 AM
Not only valet brother!  Hearing that Strip parking is going to $20 at all MGM Corp. properties.  Town is in a total uproar.  Has to do with the new arena right down by NyNY and MGM.  Supposedly locals are exempt.  We'll see if my Summerlin town ID works.

T-mobile is right outside monte carlo which is my ole standby if i can't get into mirage or bellagio. this is similar to when they all started levying the "resort fee"(read-another TAX because we can)  they said that was for towels and stuff...what next, pay toilets?  hey if i roll boxcars, do i get an extra square?   

   when mrs rocket and i moved our son from chattanooga to nashville last summer, she's all into the country thing and insisted we stay at the hermitage, the iconic, historic, right downtown off of broadway, gotta stay here if you go hotel, right?  $400 per night(weekday) with no special events or anything and we had to pay $30 per night for parking.  i mean, come on man!!  i didn't even question it because i'm sure i would have looked like i was from arkansas with a full set of choppers...hey look cooter, dude with all his teeth complainin bout parking fees...?? 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on June 24, 2016, 04:09:42 AM
http://www.latimes.com/travel/lasvegas/la-tr-las-vegas-parking-fees-begin-20160516-snap-story.html

that's interesting-thanks!    i'm usually in the gold tier on M-life card, but all that means is that i've lost enough to get "free parking".  mrs rocket did hit the 3 card royal flush playing the progressive($16,000) at treasure island just before MGM sold them off(5 years ago?) to pay for city center-i'd like to think we haven't lost that yet! 
  most times we don't have our car up there. but we found a place about a mile from the airport where we can park for $5 per day, free shuttle to and from the airport.  we'll leave it there for a 2-3 weeks when we know we are returning sooner rather than getting a rental for the 2 way trip down to havasu. when i do rent,  i  use avis exclusively( select program) and get cars for one-way trips(150 miles) for $40-50 all included.  many times, the avis dude in havasu gives me a free upgrade to a camaro or something fun just to get it back up to vegas for him
  but the parking fees-it will be interesting to see how that flies?  it seems they are $10 and $20'ing people to death on the strip like it's nothing.  that's money they would be spending in resturants and entertainment for sure.  people are going to be gravitating back to to the 2nd and 3rd tier hotels off the beaten path.  i don't know, but they are the experts, right?  look at all the extra revenue some of the airlines(except swa) are bringing in charging for luggage? 

    note the $10-15-25 tables are empty to half empty but a waiting line to get on to a $5 table, IF they have one-never understood the math there.  the other place they miss out on is during the heavy sports betting times-march madness, NFL sundays, super bowl, etc, they should provide people with an app to log in to or kiosks set up for betting. have people open an acount when they check in.  the long lines have to kill them-many times i wouldn't be able to get my bet in on time-probably saved me some money?  i don't wanna know

anyone know how to create an app??  you heard it here-i get a cut-proprietary knowledge 'ey
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2016, 08:29:18 AM
There is a yard house near the Linq. Pretty good option for reasonable craft brew.

Going to any chain restaurant in LV is a huge mistake unless it's a particularly good one that they don't have in your hometown. I am in disbelief of the people who spend the money to come to one of the best food cities in the world and eat at McCormick and Schmick or California Pizza Kitchen.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on July 01, 2016, 09:20:51 AM
Going to any chain restaurant in LV is a huge mistake unless it's a particularly good one that they don't have in your hometown. I am in disbelief of the people who spend the money to come to one of the best food cities in the world and eat at McCormick and Schmick or California Pizza Kitchen.

Battista's is a one of a kind.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu03eng on July 01, 2016, 09:28:46 AM
Battista's is a one of a kind.

Love that hole in the wall
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on July 01, 2016, 09:39:14 AM
Going to any chain restaurant in LV is a huge mistake unless it's a particularly good one that they don't have in your hometown. I am in disbelief of the people who spend the money to come to one of the best food cities in the world and eat at McCormick and Schmick or California Pizza Kitchen.

Huge mistake?!?  Where the hell do you expect people from Indiana to eat while in Vegas?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2016, 09:43:35 AM
Huge mistake?!?  Where the hell do you expect people from Indiana to eat while in Vegas?

Relax.  They are the ones at Planet Hollywood. 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: DegenerateDish on July 01, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
Going to any chain restaurant in LV is a huge mistake unless it's a particularly good one that they don't have in your hometown. I am in disbelief of the people who spend the money to come to one of the best food cities in the world and eat at McCormick and Schmick or California Pizza Kitchen.

I'm conflicted on Mastro's. There's one in Chicago, and when I take my wife to Vegas at the end of this month, was contemplating going there (knowing there are a ton of other steakhouse options). I've been to SW and Mastro's in Vegas for work dinners, conflicted on where to take her.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 01, 2016, 12:34:39 PM
Relax.  They are the ones at Planet Hollywood.

gotta do "PINKS"-right outside at planet hollywood
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2016, 01:08:01 PM
I'm conflicted on Mastro's. There's one in Chicago, and when I take my wife to Vegas at the end of this month, was contemplating going there (knowing there are a ton of other steakhouse options). I've been to SW and Mastro's in Vegas for work dinners, conflicted on where to take her.

There are so many amazing steak places in Las Vegas, you can't go wrong by going to a recommended one. Might as well do something different.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Jay Bee on July 01, 2016, 01:44:54 PM
Might book or 7/20-22 today.

chick and glow, I will house watch. Deal?
Otherwise, it's another seedy $45 affair for me.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 01, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
There are so many amazing steak places in Las Vegas, you can't go wrong by going to a recommended one. Might as well do something different.

Delmonico's is probably my favorite steakhouse in Vegas.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 01, 2016, 02:30:41 PM
if you want an excuse to go downtown-vic & anthony's in the golden nugget is fantastic and a real throwback to the "ole steak house".  i think there are only 3 or 4 in existence.  a nice change of pace from the strip and cheaper gambing
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on July 01, 2016, 04:35:51 PM
if you want an excuse to go downtown-vic & anthony's in the golden nugget is fantastic and a real throwback to the "ole steak house".  i think there are only 3 or 4 in existence.  a nice change of pace from the strip and cheaper gambing

Yep.

Another downtown recommendation is Oscar's in the Plaza.  While that stupid stage at the end of Fremont partially blocks the view these days, you can sit in the same spot where De Niro and Stone were 'working things out'.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2016, 05:02:06 PM
Might book or 7/20-22 today.

chick and glow, I will house watch. Deal?
Otherwise, it's another seedy $45 affair for me.

Hellz no.  God knows what kind of skanks you'd be bringing back to our place.  We'd have to have the hazmat folks out afterwards.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 01, 2016, 05:03:27 PM
Yep.

Another downtown recommendation is Oscar's in the Plaza.  While that stupid stage at the end of Fremont partially blocks the view these days, you can sit in the same spot where De Niro and Stone were 'working things out'.

You forgot to mention the Broads they have walking around chattin' up the customers.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 01, 2016, 11:18:09 PM
You forgot to mention the Broads they have walking around chattin' up the customers.

"chattin up"?  that's gotta be code for "networking" Ayn'A?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on July 02, 2016, 07:54:04 AM
"chattin up"?  that's gotta be code for "networking" Ayn'A?

Actually no.  Oscar's theme is 'old school' Vegas.  They actually do have legitimate hostesses dressed in old fashioned flapper outfits and their job is to engage in friendly conversation with the patrons, male or female.  Politics, sports, whatever.  It's really amazing how well versed these women are.  Typically in their 40s or 50s.  Chick has said she wants the job when we're out there permanently.  And who doesn't enjoy having an intelligent conversation with an attractive lady about the events of the day? 

Kind of like how you guys all like it when chick talks to you now.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: dgies9156 on July 02, 2016, 09:31:26 AM

Chick wondered aloud as to why that never happened to us.  Of course all our smart a*s friends said she needed to walk 10 feet farther away from me.  Ladies night is alive and well out there.

My daughter and my wife spent my daughter's 21st birthday out there. Never got comped either, mostly because my daughter (very attractive 21 year old) was with my wife (very attractive much older than 21).

My daughter did walk around the strip with an I'm 21 today banner and, yes, she turned heads! Place is a hoot.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on July 02, 2016, 11:10:26 AM
  They actually do have legitimate hostesses

In Subic we called them hostitutes
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: real chili 83 on July 02, 2016, 03:21:48 PM
Actually no.  Oscar's theme is 'old school' Vegas.  They actually do have legitimate hostesses dressed in old fashioned flapper outfits and their job is to engage in friendly conversation with the patrons, male or female.  Politics, sports, whatever.  It's really amazing how well versed these women are.  Typically in their 40s or 50s.  Chick has said she wants the job when we're out there permanently.  And who doesn't enjoy having an intelligent conversation with an attractive lady about the events of the day? 

Kind of like how you guys all like it when chick talks to you now.

In trouble or banking points.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 03, 2016, 05:45:03 AM
Actually no.  Oscar's theme is 'old school' Vegas.  They actually do have legitimate hostesses dressed in old fashioned flapper outfits and their job is to engage in friendly conversation with the patrons, male or female.  Politics, sports, whatever.  It's really amazing how well versed these women are.  Typically in their 40s or 50s.  Chick has said she wants the job when we're out there permanently.  And who doesn't enjoy having an intelligent conversation with an attractive lady about the events of the day? 

Kind of like how you guys all like it when chick talks to you now.

i did not know that-thanks-so in otherwords, oscar's doesn't host many a stag party then, but then again, there is nothin' wrong with chattin' up a "well versed" 40-50 year old every now and then either...there are still some things they do have, err, know over those little hard bodies.  that old fashioned "school girl" look still has something about it.  same for the cheerleading outfits and french maid get-ups. little trips down nostalgia lane are always good to remember how we got to where we are... :D   
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on July 03, 2016, 07:55:13 AM
My daughter and my wife spent my daughter's 21st birthday out there. Never got comped either, mostly because my daughter (very attractive 21 year old) was with my wife (very attractive much older than 21).

My daughter did walk around the strip with an I'm 21 today banner and, yes, she turned heads! Place is a hoot.

I'm estimating the over/under on selfies taken that night was 1,475.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on July 03, 2016, 09:08:08 AM
i did not know that-thanks-so in otherwords, oscar's doesn't host many a stag party then, but then again, there is nothin' wrong with chattin' up a "well versed" 40-50 year old every now and then either...there are still some things they do have, err, know over those little hard bodies.  that old fashioned "school girl" look still has something about it.  same for the cheerleading outfits and french maid get-ups. little trips down nostalgia lane are always good to remember how we got to where we are... :D   

And just to be clear, it actually is the one notch below 'fine dining' establishment that Vic & Anthony's is down the street.  Pretty good meal at a decent price.  We've also sat at the bar for snacks and drinks.  And it's owned by Oscar Goodman himself.

BTW. V&A is doing a helluva deal right now, even on weekends.  You MUST mention it and present this link on your smartphone.

http://www.goldennugget.com/lasvegas/pdf/eat/Vics-distinctive-dining-Menu.pdf
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: dgies9156 on July 03, 2016, 08:27:18 PM
I'm estimating the over/under on selfies taken that night was 1,475.

From what I saw when they got back -- Benny you're right on the money!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on July 04, 2016, 10:28:06 AM


Kind of like how you guys all like it when chick talks to you now.

Gotta love glow using Scoop to get out of whatever dog house he's been living in
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Jay Bee on July 04, 2016, 11:00:55 AM
And just to be clear, it actually is the one notch below 'fine dining' establishment that Vic & Anthony's is down the street.  Pretty good meal at a decent price.  We've also sat at the bar for snacks and drinks.  And it's owned by Oscar Goodman himself.

BTW. V&A is doing a helluva deal right now, even on weekends.  You MUST mention it and present this link on your smartphone.

http://www.goldennugget.com/lasvegas/pdf/eat/Vics-distinctive-dining-Menu.pdf

Thanks for the link! I think I am in for that one if it's still going on in a couple of weeks. At that price, I could even afford to meet and treat a new lady friend to the same.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on July 04, 2016, 12:26:31 PM
Gotta love glow using Scoop to get out of whatever dog house he's been living in

(http://static2.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1755643.1397479562!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/leash15n-2-web.jpg)
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 04, 2016, 02:38:21 PM
Thanks for the link! I think I am in for that one if it's still going on in a couple of weeks. At that price, I could even afford to meet and treat a new lady friend to the same.

You use coupons on dates?  No wonder they are usually one-and-dones.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on July 04, 2016, 03:40:20 PM
You use coupons on dates?  No wonder they are usually one-and-dones.

I think today's honeyko appreciates a man who knows the value of a hard earned dollar. Nothing wrong with a touch of frugality while basting the hen.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 04, 2016, 03:53:46 PM
I think today's honeyko appreciates a man who knows the value of a hard earned dollar. Nothing wrong with a touch of frugality while basting the hen.

Good to know that you know more about women than, you know, an actual woman....
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Herman Cain on July 04, 2016, 07:39:18 PM
You use coupons on dates?  No wonder they are usually one-and-dones.
The menu had creme brulee on it.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on July 04, 2016, 08:06:14 PM
Thanks for the link! I think I am in for that one if it's still going on in a couple of weeks. At that price, I could even afford to meet and treat a new lady friend to the same.

It's really a great deal.  Certainly 'off menu'.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on July 04, 2016, 08:14:19 PM
I'll let you boys in on a little secret.  Chick and I did that V&A special about 3 weeks ago.  Fantastic and with a glass of wine and proper tip I think we walked out for $75pp.  All good.

Heck, we put 2 kids through Marquette. 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Jay Bee on July 04, 2016, 10:11:49 PM
I'll let you boys in on a little secret.  Chick and I did that V&A special about 3 weeks ago.  Fantastic and with a glass of wine and proper tip I think we walked out for $75pp.  All good.

Heck, we put 2 kids through Marquette.

Yes! I'm not going to advertise it to the broad I find. Well, depends if I'm paying or not. But, if it's some random chick visiting vegas (highly preferred), then yes... let me get the deal without her knowing. If I'm paying for company (can't imagine, hey''''ina?), then I may broadcast it and use it as a negotiation tool.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 05, 2016, 04:33:00 AM
I'll let you boys in on a little secret.  Chick and I did that V&A special about 3 weeks ago.  Fantastic and with a glass of wine and proper tip I think we walked out for $75pp.  All good.

Heck, we put 2 kids through Marquette.

and these damn steak houses always have the best mac n cheese, hey?  it's almost like, anyone can whoop up a good steak, but check out our mac. 

we were just at marcus chop house at grand geneva.  thought i was in illnoisy.  man, benji woulda been pissed if he woulda seen/tasted out ribeye's though.  they came out over cooked and cold so they tried to soothe our feelings a little with some dried up carrot cake-bad moves all around. the lady next to us was beachin about her prime rib.  not good- the whole resort was hopping-no excuse for bad food
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 05, 2016, 07:37:31 AM
Marcus is known for chitty food, hey?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on July 05, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
Good to know that you know more about women than, you know, an actual woman....

A married man damn near approaching 80 arguing about courtship with a woman barely past her... um... uh... 30's?


I love off-season Scoop.




Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Sir Lawrence on July 05, 2016, 09:57:45 AM
Marcus is known for chitty food, hey?

Mason Street Grill isn't that bad.  The Milwaukee Chop House at the Downtown Hilton isn't that bad either.  The problem with Grand Geneva is the number of mouths to feed on a weekend in the summer.  I'll bet they had five or six weddings on top of three or four corporate events.   
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Goose on July 05, 2016, 09:59:52 AM
Sir

Solid review. Mason and Chop House are not my favorites but definitely well above average. I enjoy Happy Hour at Mason quite a bit.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on July 05, 2016, 06:19:35 PM
Marcus is known for chitty food, hey?

not so sure.   saturday might just have been a "bad" day to be on KP.  the whole resort, including the golf courses were a hoppin!  if you're looking for a job, ya might want to stop by geneva nat'l as i'm sure there might be some openings to fill this morning
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: spartan3186 on July 06, 2016, 06:49:55 AM
Going to any chain restaurant in LV is a huge mistake unless it's a particularly good one that they don't have in your hometown. I am in disbelief of the people who spend the money to come to one of the best food cities in the world and eat at McCormick and Schmick or California Pizza Kitchen.

Who said anything about eating there? Fact is most beer on the strip is absolute crap, and although it's a chain, the yard house has a huge selection of good beer.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on July 06, 2016, 07:08:04 AM
Who said anything about eating there? Fact is most beer on the strip is absolute crap, and although it's a chain, the yard house has a huge selection of good beer.

I am not talking about the actual food or drink,  I am talking about the experience.  Why spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to go somewhere only to do things you can do at home?  Most beer anywhere Is crap, but every decent bar or restaurant on the strip has some good ones. Go to one ask the bartender for a recommendation of a local brew.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on August 29, 2016, 01:04:19 PM
I know our situation is unique and that everyone can't make this happen.  But I just paid $82 ROUND TRIP to head out to our desert home this coming weekend. 

No, I'm not flying on Friday/Monday.  No, we don't need a hotel.  But that's a certified world record.  So if its been too long and you need a little getaway.......

Wheels up in 48 hours.  8-) 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on August 29, 2016, 01:11:15 PM
Hope you and Chick aren't still flying Southworst glow

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/27/us/southwest-emergency-landing-engine-trouble/index.html
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on August 29, 2016, 01:51:29 PM
Hope you and Chick aren't still flying Southworst glow

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/27/us/southwest-emergency-landing-engine-trouble/index.html

Yikes.  Glad they landed safely.  That doesn't look fun.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu_hilltopper on August 29, 2016, 01:52:01 PM
glow / chick - Here's a question .. we're visiting my sister for Thanksgiving in Phoenix, then heading to the Grand Canyon, then flying out of Vegas.

We'll have our 8 and 10 year olds with us, in Vegas, for an afternoon and evening .. maybe 7 hours total, leaving early the next morning.

What's on the list?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 29, 2016, 01:54:31 PM
Don't wanna miss da Chicken Ranch for sure, ai na?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 29, 2016, 07:28:02 PM
glow / chick - Here's a question .. we're visiting my sister for Thanksgiving in Phoenix, then heading to the Grand Canyon, then flying out of Vegas.

We'll have our 8 and 10 year olds with us, in Vegas, for an afternoon and evening .. maybe 7 hours total, leaving early the next morning.

What's on the list?

Ive never been here, but this could kill a few,hours cheaply.  Good reviews. The pinball machine museum.  It's free to get in and any machine played charges what the original machine charged back in the day- nickel, dime quarter.  They donate extra cash to Salvation Army.

It's just east of MGM off the strip on Tropicana


http://www.ocregister.com/articles/hall-667629-pinball-machine.html
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on August 29, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
glow / chick - Here's a question .. we're visiting my sister for Thanksgiving in Phoenix, then heading to the Grand Canyon, then flying out of Vegas.

We'll have our 8 and 10 year olds with us, in Vegas, for an afternoon and evening .. maybe 7 hours total, leaving early the next morning.

What's on the list?

Yes, the Pinball Hall of Fame is awesome.  Jimmy Mac and I have bonded on Twitter over that place.

Vegas isn't quite the family-friendly place it tried to be a few years back, but here are some suggestions.:

1. The volcano at The Mirage
2. The fountains at Bellagio
3. Siegfried and Roy's Private Garden (it's not what you think - it's white tigers and dolphins and that sort of thing)
4. Walking around some of the theme-ier casinos - especially Paris, New York, New York, Caesar's Palace, Excalibur
5. The Shark Reef at Mandalay Bay
6. Driving down The Strip at night - roll the windows down so you can hear as well as see everything

I would not recommend walking on The Strip at night with the younguns - too many drunks and other people acting inappropriately.

Where are you staying? I can give you some other recommendations based on that so you aren't driving all over the place.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu_hilltopper on August 29, 2016, 08:14:06 PM
Great list .. so far, no hotel reservation yet, so feel free to suggest. 

Clearly, we're not dropping tons of dough on a hotel, we'll only be there for ~10 hours before our flight out. 
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on August 29, 2016, 08:25:12 PM
Great list .. so far, no hotel reservation yet, so feel free to suggest. 

Clearly, we're not dropping tons of dough on a hotel, we'll only be there for ~10 hours before our flight out.

Then Hotwire is the way to go, IMO.  I just did a search on a week from Saturday and saw 3-stars for $17 and 4-stars for $21.  If you PM me and let me know what day, Glow and I can even help you figure out which hotel it actually is.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on August 29, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
Chick's list is a good one topper.  Our kids were 9 and 7 the first time we passed through town doing a Grand Canyon week long loop.  Vegas was the fly-in, overnight, car rental place.

I remember one thing in particular.  They were both absolutely overwhelmed seeing a Vegas style over the top McDonald's sign as we drove down the Strip.  Kids that age understand Mickey D.  Then to see a larger than life Mickey D; priceless.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: MU82 on August 29, 2016, 10:48:32 PM
Yes, the Pinball Hall of Fame is awesome.  Jimmy Mac and I have bonded on Twitter over that place.

Vegas isn't quite the family-friendly place it tried to be a few years back, but here are some suggestions.:

1. The volcano at The Mirage
2. The fountains at Bellagio
3. Siegfried and Roy's Private Garden (it's not what you think - it's white tigers and dolphins and that sort of thing)
4. Walking around some of the theme-ier casinos - especially Paris, New York, New York, Caesar's Palace, Excalibur
5. The Shark Reef at Mandalay Bay
6. Driving down The Strip at night - roll the windows down so you can hear as well as see everything

I would not recommend walking on The Strip at night with the younguns - too many drunks and other people acting inappropriately.

Where are you staying? I can give you some other recommendations based on that so you aren't driving all over the place.

This is great stuff, chick.

As it turns out, we are going there in October to hang with my daughter and her boyfriend and to meet his family for the first time. (They all live in the Pacific Northwest.)

This list of yours might be geared toward kids, but I think we will enjoy doing some of it. Especially my wife, who is a kid at heart and who really doesn't like gambling.

I'd welcome any more suggestions from you or anybody else. We will be there for 4 full days, which is longer than I usually go for, and we probably won't even be bringing our golf clubs.

We probably are staying at the MGM, or at least in that area.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 30, 2016, 05:30:28 AM
This is great stuff, chick.

As it turns out, we are going there in October to hang with my daughter and her boyfriend and to meet his family for the first time. (They all live in the Pacific Northwest.)

This list of yours might be geared toward kids, but I think we will enjoy doing some of it. Especially my wife, who is a kid at heart and who really doesn't like gambling.

I'd welcome any more suggestions from you or anybody else. We will be there for 4 full days, which is longer than I usually go for, and we probably won't even be bringing our golf clubs.

We probably are staying at the MGM, or at least in that area.

For shows, terry factor is a must see.  I saw him twice and would do it again if I were taking newbies. 

The fall of Atlantis show in Caesars forum shops mall.  Moving statues put on a show about every hour I believe

Back to the kiddies for topper- M & M world has 4 floors,of fun-on the strip right next to the big coke bottle between planet Hollywood and MGM on east side of Vegas Blvd. this looks to be right up an 8-10 year olds wheel house-don't forget their toothbrushes
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu_hilltopper on August 30, 2016, 09:29:05 AM
Great stuff, all.

Question about logistics / parking.  We'll have a rental car.    Do you drive from attraction to attraction, or park and hoof it around?

I recall when I was last there, there was some sort of monorail thing.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on August 30, 2016, 10:36:26 AM
Great stuff, all.

Question about logistics / parking.  We'll have a rental car.    Do you drive from attraction to attraction, or park and hoof it around?

I recall when I was last there, there was some sort of monorail thing.

I'd park 'strategically'.  Moving the car is a pain.  Do note that the biggest sh*tstorm in years started this Spring when MGM Corp? (I think I'm remembering correctly) started charging for parking.  The locals went insane.

The Deuce bus up and down the strip is a great bet.  Whatever you do, avoid a cab on the Strip.  It'll piss you off to no end to watch people walking faster than you're going while the meter rolls on.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on August 30, 2016, 12:08:16 PM
I'd park 'strategically'.  Moving the car is a pain.  Do note that the biggest sh*tstorm in years started this Spring when MGM Corp? (I think I'm remembering correctly) started charging for parking.  The locals went insane.

The Deuce bus up and down the strip is a great bet.  Whatever you do, avoid a cab on the Strip.  It'll piss you off to no end to watch people walking faster than you're going while the meter rolls on.

That being said, stuff on the Strip is a lot further apart than it looks.  Even if a hotel is "next door", it can be a 20-minute walk front door to front door.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on August 30, 2016, 12:53:33 PM

1. The volcano at The Mirage


You must have heard about my night with three hookers at The Mirage

Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 30, 2016, 01:03:14 PM
some of the hotel/casinos are connected via trams.  the monorail is nice, but can also be a little jaunt from the stops to vegas blvd.  they have maps showing you stopping points.  there may be some longer term parking near some of the junctions.  you can get day or partial day passes for your rides. 

depending on what day or even time of the day, vegas blvd can be really really congested.  as glow said, many times you can walk faster than your cab or bus ride can take you.  plus you can get all the coupons for the "massage" services along the way in the form of a baseball card sized pic of the local talent :-[  it took us 45 minutes via cab from palazzo to paris-the last time we do that...1 MILE
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 30, 2016, 01:03:41 PM
You must have heard about my night with three hookers at The Mirage

which end?  ;D
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: keefe on August 30, 2016, 02:24:01 PM
which end?  ;D

The Wind, the Rain, and the Lava, baby!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: mu_hilltopper on August 30, 2016, 02:57:14 PM
Traffic?  Pish, posh.  I can't imagine anyone will be around Vegas the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 30, 2016, 06:31:01 PM
Traffic?  Pish, posh.  I can't imagine anyone will be around Vegas the Saturday after Thanksgiving.

Bet ya a dollar it'll be nuts-college football Saturday, people still enjoying a place in the 80's(temp.) where you don't have to use a passport, go thru customs AND TSA.  Vegas will just offer deals that many cant pass up.  I just got back from Vegas in August and thought this might be a slow time due to heat?  The place was a zoo.  It was only 101 degrees and I'll tell you, that was way more comfy than the 80's I experienced getting off the plane in Milwaukee on Sunday
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on August 30, 2016, 06:41:46 PM
100 degrees in Vegas is quite comfortable.  Now 110-114, that's really hot.

So that trip to the Grand Canyon back when our kids were young that I mentioned?  We did it in August and thought our car thermometer was broken when it read 110 at 11 pm.  Turns out it was spot on.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 30, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
100 degrees in Vegas is quite comfortable.  Now 110-114, that's really hot.

So that trip to the Grand Canyon back when our kids were young that I mentioned?  We did it in August and thought our car thermometer was broken when it read 110 at 11 pm.  Turns out it was spot on.

I was in Vegas for my 21st 2 years ago, my birthday is in mid-late August and the weekend we were there I don't think it topped 90. I hate the heat so it was very welcome for my birthday weekend. Got really lucky.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 30, 2016, 07:17:43 PM
It's been a pretty hot summer.  115 is about my limit.  Gotta be in the pool.  90-100 or so is beautiful.  80 with their humidity or lack thereof, is almost chilly. Havasu almost like clockwork, is 10 degrees warmer than Vegas on any given day
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 30, 2016, 08:55:54 PM
You must have heard about my night with three hookers at The Mirage

so you jizzed outside and it was red?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: StillAWarrior on August 30, 2016, 10:49:40 PM
That being said, stuff on the Strip is a lot further apart than it looks.  Even if a hotel is "next door", it can be a 20-minute walk front door to front door.

Reminds me of the time -- wow...25+ years ago -- that my brother and I were staying at the Flamingo and decided to walk to the brand new Excalibur that "looked" like it was right next door.  Bad idea.  Those hotels are absolutely huge, and are much, much further away than they appear.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on August 31, 2016, 09:28:41 AM
Reminds me of the time -- wow...25+ years ago -- that my brother and I were staying at the Flamingo and decided to walk to the brand new Excalibur that "looked" like it was right next door.  Bad idea.  Those hotels are absolutely huge, and are much, much further away than they appear.

Not to mention there is rarely a direct path, unless the hotels are connected by inside walkways.  You'll have to go down some steps, walk around a bunch of stuff, find the pedestrian street path, cross the street, walk up some more steps, go through shops, and THEN you're in the casino.

I stayed at the Luxor for a work conference which was at the Mandalay Bay. Excalibur, Luxor, and Mandalay Bay are all connected by foot paths and a tram (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandalay_Bay_Tram) between the three hotels. While I did venture out one day to see the rest of the strip (Bellagio, Caesar's, etc.), for the most part I just stayed within those 3 hotels and casinos, and there was plenty to do with just those 3. Each hotel has 6-8 attractions/shows, 5 or 6 restaurants and 4 or 5 bars (not counting the Shoppes at Mandalay Place between the Mandalay Bar and Luxor which had another 5  bars and restaurants in addition to many shops) so there were like 20 things to do/see and plenty of places to eat in my 4 days there, besides the gambling. I would go to the sports book at Mandalay and play blackjack and roulette on the nice floor at the Mandalay Bay before retiring to the less-nice Luxor. I also won 3 grand at the Luxor penny slots from putting a $10 bill into the machine. I was done gambling after that.

Each hotel has something relatively kid friendly. The Mandalay Bay has the shark reef, the Luxor has the Titanic exhibit, Bodies exhibit, and Criss Angel's magic show. The Excalibur has a medieval times-ish tournament dinner. And just across the street is the roller coaster at New York, New York. Lots to do just in that little corner of the strip.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on August 31, 2016, 01:28:38 PM
The Wind, the Rain, and the Lava, baby!

So... antibiotics, antifungals and antivirals?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: MU82 on August 31, 2016, 09:54:51 PM
For shows, terry factor is a must see.  I saw him twice and would do it again if I were taking newbies. 

The fall of Atlantis show in Caesars forum shops mall.  Moving statues put on a show about every hour I believe

Back to the kiddies for topper- M & M world has 4 floors,of fun-on the strip right next to the big coke bottle between planet Hollywood and MGM on east side of Vegas Blvd. this looks to be right up an 8-10 year olds wheel house-don't forget their toothbrushes
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: MU82 on August 31, 2016, 09:57:31 PM
I'd park 'strategically'.  Moving the car is a pain.  Do note that the biggest sh*tstorm in years started this Spring when MGM Corp? (I think I'm remembering correctly) started charging for parking.  The locals went insane.


Wait ... the MGM charges to park? Do other hotels do the same now?

My daughter, who is driving down from Seattle (with a couple stops in between to visit friends) made a reference about having to pay for parking and I told her, "Casinos don't charge to park, silly."

Looks like daddy was wrong. Again!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on September 01, 2016, 12:10:44 AM
Wait ... the MGM charges to park? Do other hotels do the same now?

My daughter, who is driving down from Seattle (with a couple stops in between to visit friends) made a reference about having to pay for parking and I told her, "Casinos don't charge to park, silly."

Looks like daddy was wrong. Again!

Yep. That's what happens when you build an 18,000 seat arena and not add any parking. Now it's not everyone mind you but certainlythe wave of the ffuture.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on September 01, 2016, 08:48:21 AM
Yep. That's what happens when you build an 18,000 seat arena and not add any parking. Now it's not everyone mind you but certainlythe wave of the ffuture.

Is it just the MGM? Or all MGM-owned properties?
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on September 01, 2016, 10:05:41 AM
If'n any y'all get sick of the Vegas B.S. there's plenty of free parking up in Reno.  Benny and the Mrs. are heading out there again in a couple weeks.  For those who haven't been, it's essentially Vegas with a sweatervest... and y'all know how much Benny and the Mrs. love making fun of the sweatervests.  (Incidentally, my last three trips out there, I've run into at least one person wearing Marquette apparel; though in fairness, I'm pretty sure some of them might have been around to see Fr. O'Donnell's installation.)

Sorry to piss in everyone's Vegas frosted flakes, but seriously... Vegas in the summertime is hell on earth (and here you thought they called it "Sin City" for other reasons) and in the winter, Reno has Tahoe.  The University of Nevada (state flagship) is in Reno, yet UNLV (the Pacific time zone equivalent of UW-Platteville) enjoys much greater notoriety.  An easy 3-hour drive from Reno will land you in the heart of Napa/Sonoma, but a 3-hour drive from Vegas will barely get you to the outskirts of LA, where you're just a 3-hour traffic jam away from downtown.  And most importantly, though I have not independently confirmed*, there is more beer - from both standpoints of variety (absolute) and quantity (per capita) - in Reno than Vegas.  And yet, Vegas is literally (as in literally, literally) 10x as popular as Reno (42+ million tourists visit Vegas annually compared to Reno's 4.3 million).  It just goes to show you... never underestimate the drawing power of top-notch hooker bloodlines, openly gay magicians, and Siegfried & Roy.

Oh... and did I mention the air races in Reno?  Red flag, pshaw; these planes you can see up close (which is great except when they crash).  Hopefully I get done with work early enough on the 14th to get out there for the T-6 qualifiers.


* yet... because despite what Keefe will tell you, there is indeed a limit on how much beer the human body can consume every 24 hours.

Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: warriorchick on September 01, 2016, 12:01:10 PM
Is it just the MGM? Or all MGM-owned properties?

All of them, my friend...
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Coleman on September 01, 2016, 02:07:22 PM
All of them, my friend...

yikes that's like half the strip.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: MU82 on September 01, 2016, 02:54:06 PM
All of them, my friend...

All except CircusCircus and MGM Signature. The latter is valet only, so that means tips every time you have your car parked or retrieved.

But all the Caesars properties (Ballys, Harrahs, Rio, Flamingo, Linq, etc), Hilton, Marriott, Wynn, etc, still don't charge to park. Most say they are "reviewing" the situation - which I take to mean that they are seeing if there's any lasting backlash against MGM and, if not, they'll be charging to park, too.

It pisses lots of us off but in the grand scheme of things it's only a fraction of the cost of a Vegas trip. Most MGM parking tops off at $10/night. So parking for a 3-night stay is still cheaper than one day's "resort fee," which is a total cash grab. And I can lose the equivalent of a resort fee in about half a second on the craps table!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on September 01, 2016, 03:43:25 PM
If'n any y'all get sick of the Vegas B.S. there's plenty of free parking up in Reno.  Benny and the Mrs. are heading out there again in a couple weeks.  For those who haven't been, it's essentially Vegas with a sweatervest... and y'all know how much Benny and the Mrs. love making fun of the sweatervests.  (Incidentally, my last three trips out there, I've run into at least one person wearing Marquette apparel; though in fairness, I'm pretty sure some of them might have been around to see Fr. O'Donnell's installation.)

Sorry to piss in everyone's Vegas frosted flakes, but seriously... Vegas in the summertime is hell on earth (and here you thought they called it "Sin City" for other reasons) and in the winter, Reno has Tahoe.  The University of Nevada (state flagship) is in Reno, yet UNLV (the Pacific time zone equivalent of UW-Platteville) enjoys much greater notoriety.  An easy 3-hour drive from Reno will land you in the heart of Napa/Sonoma, but a 3-hour drive from Vegas will barely get you to the outskirts of LA, where you're just a 3-hour traffic jam away from downtown.  And most importantly, though I have not independently confirmed*, there is more beer - from both standpoints of variety (absolute) and quantity (per capita) - in Reno than Vegas.  And yet, Vegas is literally (as in literally, literally) 10x as popular as Reno (42+ million tourists visit Vegas annually compared to Reno's 4.3 million).  It just goes to show you... never underestimate the drawing power of top-notch hooker bloodlines, openly gay magicians, and Siegfried & Roy.

Oh... and did I mention the air races in Reno?  Red flag, pshaw; these planes you can see up close (which is great except when they crash).  Hopefully I get done with work early enough on the 14th to get out there for the T-6 qualifiers.


* yet... because despite what Keefe will tell you, there is indeed a limit on how much beer the human body can consume every 24 hours.

Benny, I've been to Reno. Reno sucks.
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on September 01, 2016, 03:53:08 PM
So we've got the Welcome Sheet in our place for when family or close friends visit.  Typical stuff like how to turn on TV and location of the local Target.

Anyway,  in the last paragraph I ask folks to contribute a bottle of high quality liquor to the cabinet for all to enjoy going forward.  I guess that's our resort fee.

One time just to be a smartass my brother in law left a six pack of Busch Light! Scratch him off the Christmas gift exchange!
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on September 01, 2016, 04:03:16 PM
Benny, I've been to Reno. Reno sucks.

Yes, that was kind of my point, though Elon Musk disagrees. 

Nevertheless, between Reno and Vegas, one thing is clear... the surest way to not suck is to blow.

Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: rocket surgeon on September 01, 2016, 05:17:35 PM
then you have laughlin(vegas lite) and the river and golf and ATV'ing.  prices are much lower as well
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: jsglow on November 09, 2017, 08:05:05 AM
I had to decide between a year old self-driving car thread or our great 'dos and donts around Vegas' thread.

I chose.  Don't.   :o

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/11/08/self-driving-shuttle-crashes-in-las-vegas-hours-after-launch.html
Title: Re: Dos and donts around Vegas
Post by: Benny B on November 09, 2017, 08:18:34 AM
I had do decide between a year old self-driving car thread or our great 'dos and donts around Vegas' thread.

I chose.  Don't.   :o

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/11/08/self-driving-shuttle-crashes-in-las-vegas-hours-after-launch.html

(https://www.searchdiscovery.com/images/blog/2015/08/You-Have-Chosen-Wisely.jpg)