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Title: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020 on May 28, 2015, 12:42:08 PM
I'm trying to think if we even have a Pere statue on campus?


http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/28/catholic-school-removes-statue-of-priest-because-hes-white/


Catholic School Removes Statue Of Priest Because He’s White

A Catholic university in St. Louis has taken down a statue of a Catholic missionary over complaints that its depiction of Catholic conversion efforts represents a legacy of white supremacy, The College Fix reported.

The statue at Jesuit-run Saint Louis University (SLU) is of Jesuit missionary Pierre-Jean De Smet, who evangelized American Indians during the 1800s and has several cities and schools in the U.S. named after him. It shows him holding a crucifix aloft as he ministers to two American Indians, who both look up to him in awe.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on May 28, 2015, 12:52:03 PM
Aren't there already student groups trying to get MU to change its seal due to the perceived racial subjugation in Marquette directing the native american paddling the canoe?  
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: LloydsLegs on May 28, 2015, 12:59:26 PM
I for one am glad to see it.  DeSmet sucks.  It always has.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: 🏀 on May 28, 2015, 01:01:46 PM
Batman has a statue on campus

(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/224/4315/1024/DSC01265.jpg)
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: source? on May 28, 2015, 01:03:24 PM
Do you mean father Jacques Marquette? We do have a father Marquette statue by the Joan of Arc chapel.

I'm as anti-pc as anybody, and I think moving the statue is a bit much, but there's no equivalency between our statue of father Marquette and their statue.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0PlaZPCIAAocLN.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3022/2780338527_22e63ed10f_z.jpg)

The complaint about their statue is that it looks like the white missionary is dominating the natives and they are worshiping him. It is a stupid controversy.

There is a similar controversy over our seal, but if you look at the painting on which the seal is based, then you understand the context.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on May 28, 2015, 01:33:25 PM
If you know anything about art the statue of De Smet isn't about white dominance but draws the eye from left to right and up to the deity as his desire was to bring their souls to God. There is no dominance in his posture but a fatherly hand resting on the shoulder and his left pointing to the heavens.  But I can see how the chronically aggrieved would infer this.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: chapman on May 28, 2015, 01:37:03 PM
I'm trying to think if we even have a Pere statue on campus?

No, but there is a nice Captain Morgan statue in the middle of campus.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: source? on May 28, 2015, 02:02:03 PM
If you know anything about art the statue of De Smet isn't about white dominance but draws the eye from left to right and up to the deity as his desire was to bring their souls to God. There is no dominance in his posture but a fatherly hand resting on the shoulder and his left pointing to the heavens.  But I can see how the chronically aggrieved would infer this.

I'm with you. I was just stating what the other side's argument is. It is a stupid controversy.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: keefe on May 28, 2015, 02:34:21 PM

(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/224/4315/1024/DSC01265.jpg)

What the f#ck is that monstrosity? That is genuinely hideous...
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on May 28, 2015, 02:39:12 PM
What the f#ck is that monstrosity? That is genuinely hideous...

Mickey Rourke
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020 on May 28, 2015, 02:59:51 PM
What the f#ck is that monstrosity? That is genuinely hideous...

Robert Baratheon demonstrating triumph over House Targaryen after the Battle of the Trident?
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 28, 2015, 03:05:24 PM
it's art-heynie?  sure beats an upside down crucifix in a jar of yellow waste water
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: keefe on May 28, 2015, 03:24:28 PM
You guys slay me, man! I am laughing aloud at these comments! I love Scoop!

Take a bunch of guys with idle time on their hands and see what they come up with. We are all just a bunch of 16 year olds at heart. F#cking great!
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 28, 2015, 04:08:48 PM
You guys slay me, man! I am laughing aloud at these comments! I love Scoop!

Take a bunch of guys with idle time on their hands and see what they come up with. We are all just a bunch of 16 year olds at heart. F#cking great!

the most fun ya can have with your clothes on yeehaw
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on May 28, 2015, 04:16:45 PM
When did we get these statues?  I know I was wasted in college, but I don't remember a single one.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: 🏀 on May 28, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
No joke, once that statue was put up someone spray painted a batman logo on his upper chest. I think this was in 05.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 28, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
Nah man, it's old man Crean after Glass chewed him up and spit da mofo out, hey?
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: chapman on May 28, 2015, 06:56:36 PM
When did we get these statues?  I know I was wasted in college, but I don't remember a single one.

Don't remember walking to class and seeing this?

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2185/2176645021_749d1364fd_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Warrior Code on May 28, 2015, 09:15:17 PM
Batman has a statue on campus

(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/224/4315/1024/DSC01265.jpg)

This statue is beyond terrible and I couldn't help but stare at how terrible it was every time I walked past it. Embarrassingly poor.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: warriorchick on May 28, 2015, 09:20:30 PM
This statue is beyond terrible and I couldn't help but stare at how terrible it was every time I walked past it. Embarrassingly poor.

I suppose you don't like any painting that doesn't look like a photograph, either.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: keefe on May 28, 2015, 09:48:20 PM
I suppose you don't like any painting that doesn't look like a photograph, either.

I am actually a fan of Abstract Expressionism. That statue is hideous. In fact, it's more than hideous. It's sh1t.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: chapman on May 28, 2015, 09:59:21 PM
It isn't "Scary Lucy" bad.

(http://www.wdio.com/wdioimages/repository/2015-05/wkbw-lucille-ball-statue.png)
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 28, 2015, 10:14:59 PM
The Plaster Casters got a hold of a younger ZFB back in the day. 
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: keefe on May 28, 2015, 10:19:02 PM
It isn't "Scary Lucy" bad.

(http://www.wdio.com/wdioimages/repository/2015-05/wkbw-lucille-ball-statue.png)

Is that supposed to be Lucille Ball???!!!
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Eldon on May 29, 2015, 08:05:34 AM
Is that supposed to be Lucille Ball???!!!


I think it's John Travolta in Grease.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 29, 2015, 08:45:49 AM
the most fun ya can have with your clothes on yeehaw

The rest of you are wearing clothes?  Sh#t!
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Benny B on May 29, 2015, 09:37:38 AM
Aren't there already student groups trying to get MU to change its seal due to the perceived racial subjugation in Marquette directing the native american paddling the canoe?  

Oh for Christ's sake... that was a casino shuttle.  You think they had limousine buses back in the 1600s?  I rode one of those to Ho-Chunk one time and I don't remember anyone protesting my "subjugation" of Native Americans.
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 29, 2015, 04:38:01 PM
The rest of you are wearing clothes?  Sh#t!

assuming you are a guy, bab bad visual-you aren't in your moms basement too? ;D
Title: Re: Pere Marquette next?
Post by: Warrior Code on May 29, 2015, 06:26:48 PM
I suppose you don't like any painting that doesn't look like a photograph, either.

Nah, this just strikes me as amateurish and the proportions are odd. Huge forehead. It doesn't look right from any angle, and I know it couldn't have been cheap. Whoever bought this overpaid.