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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: jesmu84 on May 18, 2015, 05:32:48 PM
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Apologies if this topic is posted elsewhere...
Hearing from a good friend of mine who is involved with Xavier recruiting that Marquette is the "clear front-runner" for NC State transfer Kyle Washington.
Do with that what you wish.
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Anyone know anything about his younger brother?
Is he a player? Is this another possible 2fer?
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Wojo in with Pulley connections. JayBee can fill us in.
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Have been hopeful on Kyle since hearing of his transfer out of NC State. Him being from my high school is a plus, but really do think the fit is lovely. He liked the school back when Buzz was here.. hoping this deal is sealed soon!
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Dodds hinted that there was a possibility of a big transferring in.
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Lesseee...with the most recent commitments, our current roster, and all these guys everybody wants(Washington, the Greek dude, Coffey, Gieslo, and a few other transfers), we will have about 17 guys on the roster for 2016-17, but hey, never stop recruiting. It is all good.
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While it would temporarily take us out of the running for 2016s, I still think Washington is worth it. Would fit the big rebounder role we are lacking. Wouldn't help for next year, but it'd be worth taking a known quantity while we can.
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Lesseee...with the most recent commitments, our current roster, and all these guys everybody wants(Washington, the Greek dude, Coffey, Gieslo, and a few other transfers), we will have about 17 guys on the roster for 2016-17, but hey, never stop recruiting. It is all good.
Buzz was right about that. Never stop recruiting. If Henry is a one-and-done..... if one of this year's recruits doesn't fit....if Wally decided to concentrate on the high jump....if an upperclassman leaves.....
It will work itself out. Hopefully, Wojo's recruits are of higher character than Crean's and manage to not get run off due to weed and booze.
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Buzz was right about that. Never stop recruiting. If Henry is a one-and-done..... if one of this year's recruits doesn't fit....if Wally decided to concentrate on the high jump....if an upperclassman leaves.....
It will work itself out. Hopefully, Wojo's recruits are of higher character than Crean's and manage to not get run off due to weed and booze.
I think it's most likely the bolded part above.
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While it would temporarily take us out of the running for 2016s, I still think Washington is worth it. Would fit the big rebounder role we are lacking. Wouldn't help for next year, but it'd be worth taking a known quantity while we can.
Would it? Isn't signing one over allowed? Plus nothing counts until a student signs an LOI if I'm not mistaken. November (or next March) are a long ways away.
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Would it? Isn't signing one over allowed? Plus nothing counts until a student signs an LOI if I'm not mistaken. November (or next March) are a long ways away.
We could oversign. It would be interesting to see how Wojo handles it if we do land Washington. But the only signing we'd be waiting on is Hauser. Beyond that, only a transfer or early declaration would open a spot.
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Would it? Isn't signing one over allowed? Plus nothing counts until a student signs an LOI if I'm not mistaken. November (or next March) are a long ways away.
It would be fine. But.. just for clarification --
1) an LOI (or as I like to call it, an NLI - same thing) is done through an optional program. It's not a requirement and doesn't cause you problems from an NCAA rules perspective if you have more 'signed' to an NLI than slots "currently forecast to be" available (conferences can place additional restrictions)...
Also... not that it matters.. but, the early signing period is indeed November next year.. but the regular period is April 13, 2016 - May 18, 2016... no March.
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It would be fine. But.. just for clarification --
1) an LOI (or as I like to call it, an NLI - same thing) is done through an optional program. It's not a requirement and doesn't cause you problems from an NCAA rules perspective if you have more 'signed' to an NLI than slots "currently forecast to be" available (conferences can place additional restrictions)...
Also... not that it matters.. but, the early signing period is indeed November next year.. but the regular period is April 13, 2016 - May 18, 2016... no March.
Thanks Jay. Stupid banker terminology. I meant to say NLI. Too many damn years. So tell me, when does having more than 13 scholarship athletes begin to 'count'? For grins let's consider HE and a decision next April to either enter the NBA draft or not. Let's say he has this tweet saying that he loves MU so much that he can't leave on or about April 15th. And let's further say that Hauser, Washington (as a transfer) and one or two others like Coffey or someone else ink in November.
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Can't have too many Jewish playas, hey?
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Thanks Jay. Stupid banker terminology. I meant to say NLI. Too many damn years. So tell me, when does having more than 13 scholarship athletes begin to 'count'? For grins let's consider HE and a decision next April to either enter the NBA draft or not. Let's say he has this tweet saying that he loves MU so much that he can't leave on or about April 15th. And let's further say that Hauser, Washington (as a transfer) and one or two others like Coffey or someone else ink in November.
Not an expert on the details of this, so don't accept what I'll dream up with certainty.. but... basically it becomes an issue if you attempt to have more than 13 guys enrolled and taking classes while receiving financial aid at the same time.
In general, scholarships are one year renewable arrangements.. and that's important to remember.. I think in most sports - including basketball (but not football)... you can even give kid financial aid in the summer before initial full-time enrollment...and if something happens and the kid leaves (Roseboro might be an example?)... he is NOT a counter.
So in your example.. things would have to get figured out by late August at the latest.. and it would be an issue if you had 14-15 guys wanting to receive financial aid for summer session...
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I could be wrong but with the logjam at shooting guard maybe JJJ is lower on the depth chart. He certainly didn't do much to warrant major minutes next year. Washington would fill a need. Personally I like the way the roster is shaping up especially if we can land Washington. With a year under his belt in the program he fits in nicely at PF
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Lesseee...with the most recent commitments, our current roster, and all these guys everybody wants(Washington, the Greek dude, Coffey, Gieslo, and a few other transfers), we will have about 17 guys on the roster for 2016-17, but hey, never stop recruiting. It is all good.
I laughed out loud at this between this and 4everWarriors I'm always entertained by the scoop
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While it would temporarily take us out of the running for 2016s, I still think Washington is worth it. Would fit the big rebounder role we are lacking. Wouldn't help for next year, but it'd be worth taking a known quantity while we can.
2016 recruits will not help this year, but Washington would help in practice. Both would help next year.
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I laughed out loud at this between this and 4everWarriors I'm always entertained by the scoop
4ever is just an old toothache with a tacky sense of whatever.
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I'm really thinking '15-'16 is set with the guys in place.
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2016 recruits will not help this year, but Washington would help in practice. Both would help next year.
If you're going to play against talented big guys in Big East games, it's got to help to see a talented big in practice.
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I'm really thinking '15-'16 is set with the guys in place.
Yeah, at some point it seems the regular transfers became a greater priority than the graduate guys, probably right after Miller and Lee declared elsewhere.
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Yeah, at some point it seems the regular transfers became a greater priority than the graduate guys, probably right after Miller and Lee declared elsewhere.
But wait ... I was supposed to be "concerned" because Wojo didn't have a plan.
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If we sign Washington, does that take us out of the running for Amir Coffey?
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Yeah, at some point it seems the regular transfers became a greater priority than the graduate guys, probably right after Miller and Lee declared elsewhere.
Does anyone have a grad transfer update? I'm still concerned that next year team has 10 players (three open) so we have space and potentially time available.
I still think a priority has to be picking up grad transfers for next year. (At this point a 15 HS grad won't work because the roster is full after next year.
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Does anyone have a grad transfer update? I'm still concerned that next year team has 10 players (three open) so we have space and potentially time available.
I still think a priority has to be picking up grad transfers for next year. (At this point a 15 HS grad won't work because the roster is full after next year.
Not looking likely.
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If we sign Washington, does that take us out of the running for Amir Coffey?
I don't think it does. Too much time for attrition via transfer, a player turning pro, etc. A lot to play out yet. Plus I wouldn't be shocked if Coffey decides to wait until spring in order to see what kind of offers he might get with a big SR year.
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I don't think it does. Too much time for attrition via transfer, a player turning pro, etc. A lot to play out yet. Plus I wouldn't be shocked if Coffey decides to wait until spring in order to see what kind of offers he might get with a big SR year.
I think the Hauser commit is more likely to take us out of the Coffey running.
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I think the Hauser commit is more likely to take us out of the Coffey running.
Depends on a lot of things. Will HE turn pro? Does Wojo believe in oversigning or not? What is Coffey's timeline and who else offers him? Will they're be an unhappy wing that transfers? Will Wally leave to train for the Olympics? How many recruits does Wojo adopt? How many walk-ons will Giannis pay for?
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I think the Hauser commit is more likely to take us out of the Coffey running.
Yes, more so than Washington on a positional-need basis. That said, neither do. Amir is quite versatile.
Related note... I wouldn't project Amir or Kyle as super-high usage guys... They can work well in different roles offensively
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But wait ... I was supposed to be "concerned" because Wojo didn't have a plan.
I'm guessing that you were never able to quite get there though... ;)
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If we sign Washington, does that take us out of the running for Amir Coffey?
If we can get Coffey, I guarantee a scholarship will appear
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I'm importing this into this thread from the "official transfer thread" in case anyone hasn't seen it there, and to increase my post count.
A DePaul Alum in the New York area, Dan Stack, got an interview with Washington for a website called Today's U. Here's what he got.
Ex-North Carolina State forward/center Kyle Washington has released a list of 10 schools he is considering transferring to on Wednesday. After two years in Raleigh, Washington wants a fresh start and he talked with TodaysU about his future plans.
Among the schools (in no order) he is considering are: Kansas, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Providence, Butler, Marquette, Iowa, Iowa State, Arizona State and Xavier.
“I like that they (the schools) focused on my strengths and where I need to get better, “ Washington said about what attracted him to these programs. “A lot of these schools have a history of doing well with people in my position. They have a history of doing well with transfers.”
Washington, a native of Champlin, Minnesota (although his family is now in New York) said location is not of the utmost importance, but it could play a factor.
“A little bit,” Washington said when asked about the location of the school being a factor. “As long as I’m comfortable with where I’m at, I’m happy and I’m in a good situation that I like, than everything will be alright.”
Washington, a 6’9”, 230-pound forward/center, has always been an energy guy with the Wolfpack. He possesses boundless enthusiasm and always plays with a high motor. With his playing time getting squeezed at N.C. State, he thinks now is time for a change of scenery.
“I saw myself in a different light than coach (Mark) Gottfried did,” Washington said. “I felt it would be better for me and my family to move on. I’m grateful for my opportunity at N.C. State, and playing in one of the best conferences in the nation.”
Washington is coming off a season in which he averaged 6.8 points, 4.1 rebounds and 1.1 blocks per game on .467 percent shooting from the the field and .718 percent from the free-throw line. He can also step out and hit the occasional three. Washington has nice range, as he connected on .538 percent of his three-point attempts (7-13).
To date, Washington has scored 404 points, pulled down 278 rebounds and blocked 58 shots in his career with the Pack. For whatever school he chooses, he’ll bring a versatile set of skills to his new team, as Washington can score, rebound and block shots. Washington can certainly do a lot of things well for a big man.
He thinks he can add an extra dimension to the next school he chooses.
“My approach to the game (is a strength),” Washington added. “I take basketball, winning and being successful seriously. It’s about the team first and then the individual. I want to be the best (and ) I want my team to be the best. I’m a very positive thinker. I don’t think about any negativity and that’s one of my best attributes.”
Washington wants to be thorough with his decision and will not rush the process. He will have two years of eligibility left at the school he chooses. Washington will have to sit out next season, as per NCAA Division I transfer rules.
“I just want to be sure I’m happy with my decision,” Washington said. “I want a coach that has a vision for me moving forward”
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Does anyone have a grad transfer update? I'm still concerned that next year team has 10 players (three open) so we have space and potentially time available.
I still think a priority has to be picking up grad transfers for next year. (At this point a 15 HS grad won't work because the roster is full after next year.
There are two open schollies for 15-16, only one for 16-17. If we grab Washington, 16-17's roster would be full with 13 schollies (that will change), and we'd still have one available for 15-16.
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Have been hopeful on Kyle since hearing of his transfer out of NC State. Him being from my high school is a plus, but really do think the fit is lovely. He liked the school back when Buzz was here.. hoping this deal is sealed soon!
Beej, what year did you graduate from Benilde?
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When he reclassified in 2013, Washington had offers from the likes of Memphis, Ohio State, Baylor, Florida, Louisville, Washington, Notre Dame, Miami, Iowa State, Marquette, Wisconsin, and Xavier. That's a pretty nice list of interested suitors. I know he got a raw deal at N.C. State getting passed over by Freeman, but I think he'd be a solid addition here. Loads of talent.
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Beej, what year did you graduate from Benilde?
Long ago. Before Devean George did.
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Mike Hopkins #pcbb @pcbb1917 40m40 minutes ago
NC State soph transfer Kyle Washington scheduled to visit Marquette June 5-7, per source. Has 2 years of eligibility left #mubb @becb_sbn
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Mike Hopkins #pcbb @pcbb1917 40m40 minutes ago
NC State soph transfer Kyle Washington scheduled to visit Marquette June 5-7, per source. Has 2 years of eligibility left #mubb @becb_sbn
Outstanding.
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Mike Hopkins #pcbb @pcbb1917 40m40 minutes ago
NC State soph transfer Kyle Washington scheduled to visit Marquette June 5-7, per source. Has 2 years of eligibility left #mubb @becb_sbn
What's the weather forecast?
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Mike Hopkins #pcbb @pcbb1917 40m40 minutes ago
NC State soph transfer Kyle Washington scheduled to visit Marquette June 5-7, per source. Has 2 years of eligibility left #mubb @becb_sbn
Let's hope he follows the model and commits within a couple days after that. 03eng, immediately plan another poorly timed podcast.
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What's the weather forecast?
It will be raining talented transfers and other commits.
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What's the weather forecast?
You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Cloudy but warm that weekend. Low to mid 70s. A chance of rain, so you won't need the sprinkler out that weekend or else you'll see the bike tire tracks I'm leaving in your yard.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Sigh, you're worse than a Groin Pull
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Sigh, you're worse than a Groin Pull
+10000
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What's the weather forecast?
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3829042/lighten-up-francis-o.gif)
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Based on who we've been mentioned with...is there a pecking order in who we'd like to have committed?
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Yes, it is overly nauseating. Getting tired of the nonsense on this board. Even the Bucky boys recognize the too often juvenile/tacky/biased nature of this forum. Hard to believe that the vast majority of these folks are college educated.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/30/30550314f044d524962bfa95df8d92716d1b0fe65ee74f20c49e3cc5d086b972.jpg)
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/VyC0Xaf7joeyY/giphy.gif)
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Yes, it is overly nauseating. Getting tired of the nonsense on this board. Even the Bucky boys recognize the too often juvenile/tacky/biased nature of this forum. Hard to believe that the vast majority of these folks are college educated.
We should feel honored by you comin' down off the pedestal, a'ina?
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The negativity at times can get to me but the inside jokes and whatnot, I find hilarious and entertaining. If you don't like this board, go over to the scout board or brew city ball. Pretty simple.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Bye, Felicia.
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Guess the inmates are running this asylum.... :(
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Pumped about Washington - he would be a huge addition.
As for this board, I am certainly not the debbie downer some are around here, but I do think some of the running inside jokes, the cryptic posters and meme tourney are sort of lame, but it doesn't really affect me - you can just avoid the dumb threads, and put the idiots on ignore.
There isn't a lot to talk about with respect to CBB and MU hoops during the summertime, so you get this junk. Glad I am a diehard baseball fan as well, so I can at least pass my free time with something slightly more entertaining than some of the folks around here who are just in a constant circle jerk.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
You act as though this is your first time on the internet.
I don't know most of the inside jokes and don't really find the ones I do know very funny, but that doesn't stop me from getting information and discussing topics that I want to discuss. I just use my handy scroll bar and go to the next post if need be.
But if message board comments you don't like are ruining things for you, I would just take your laptop out into the field and give it the Office Space treatment.
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The negativity at times can get to me but the inside jokes and whatnot, I find hilarious and entertaining.
That's where I'm at. I get better hoops analysis elsewhere, but the cast of characters here is entertaining.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Also, get off his lawn.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Looks like you want to be on the receiving end of a scoop gang bang, or SGB for short. (Scoop Gang Bang Receiver=SGBR)
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
In another hour he'll be catching the early bird special at the Fort Myers Diner and in another two getting ready for bed
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Yeah, the lampoonin' here is fookin' bothersome, ai na?
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Yeah, the lampoonin' here is fookin' bothersome, ai na?
Yeah, kinda like a toothache... ;)
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Laugh (or cry) all you want but #GoodWeather is important, rain or snow could cause a recruit to slip and end up in a #WalkingBoot, ai na?
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Nobody is keeping you here. And no one pretends that this place is a model of decorum. You know what you are getting when you come here. You choose to come anyway and then complain about what you knew you would find.
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Apparently a couple posters are unhappy with today's lunch offering at the senior center.
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Based on who we've been mentioned with...is there a pecking order in who we'd like to have committed?
My guess would be:
Amir Coffey
Washington
Kostas
I don't think we'll get Winston now and if we do land Washington/if Hoiberg takes the Bulls/Wolves job then I hope the staff goes all out for Coffey.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Yeah. This kind of crap should *never* happen on the Internet.
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Laugh (or cry) all you want but #GoodWeather is important, rain or snow could cause a recruit to slip and end up in a #WalkingBoot, ai na?
That's what we want, right? Anyone who ends up in a walking boot has Marquette written all over them.
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My guess would be:
Amir Coffey
Washington
Kostas
I don't think we'll get Winston now and if we do land Washington/if Hoiberg takes the Bulls/Wolves job then I hope the staff goes all out for Coffey.
The staff is going all out for Coffey regardless of whether or not any of that other stuff happens. According to Mark Miller, MU is in the lead.
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You guys and your running "inside" jokes make it nauseating to read the board. It hijacks nearly every thread. They aren't funny, never were funny and are extremely tiresome. Somehow you've created some tournament on these and others celebrate it. Just stop.
Washington will redshirt in his career due to a medical waiver from spending a year in a walking boot from running away from Tanned Tommy so he will stay in college as long as Otule; to avoid over-signing in his 6th year of eligibility maybe Wojo will adopt someone. After leading us to a thrilling NCAA tournament win over a team that was evil and needed to be destroyed with Hoopaloop in attendance holding a Beer Summit at halftime to honor legendary coach Stew Morril, and after being down ____ with ____ to play, which indeed was doable, he will be drafted by the Bulls and team up with JFB. After a successful season, Wojo will be given a vote of confidence, since he will have made it the five years required to evaluate a hire, though in usual MU fashion, the Wojo to ____ rumors will start flying.
This is all happening, a #donedeal according to sources, ai na? We'll have to respect the process, but I know because I played high school basketball before attending a Catholic 7 school on my way to becoming a gold sweater vest wearer.
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My guess would be:
Amir Coffey
Washington
Kostas
I don't think we'll get Winston now and if we do land Washington/if Hoiberg takes the Bulls/Wolves job then I hope the staff goes all out for Coffey.
Think in that order? I mean those are the 4 guys I know we are high on based on the conversations I've read on some other threads.
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I LOVE INSIDE JOKES!...i hope you be a part of one someday
-Michael Scott
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Washington will redshirt in his career due to a medical waiver from spending a year in a walking boot from running away from Tanned Tommy so he will stay in college as long as Otule; to avoid over-signing in his 6th year of eligibility maybe Wojo will adopt someone. After leading us to a thrilling NCAA tournament win over a team that was evil and needed to be destroyed with Hoopaloop in attendance holding a Beer Summit at halftime to honor legendary coach Stew Morril, and after being down ____ with ____ to play, which indeed was doable, he will be drafted by the Bulls and team up with JFB. After a successful season, Wojo will be given a vote of confidence, since he will have made it the five years required to evaluate a hire, though in usual MU fashion, the Wojo to ____ rumors will start flying.
This is all happening, a #donedeal according to sources, ai na? We'll have to respect the process, but I know because I played high school basketball before attending a Catholic 7 school on my way to becoming a gold sweater vest wearer.
Hear hear!
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Hear hear!
Sorry, but that's just total BS nonsense.
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Washington will redshirt in his career due to a medical waiver from spending a year in a walking boot from running away from Tanned Tommy so he will stay in college as long as Otule; to avoid over-signing in his 6th year of eligibility maybe Wojo will adopt someone. After leading us to a thrilling NCAA tournament win over a team that was evil and needed to be destroyed with Hoopaloop in attendance holding a Beer Summit at halftime to honor legendary coach Stew Morril, and after being down ____ with ____ to play, which indeed was doable, he will be drafted by the Bulls and team up with JFB. After a successful season, Wojo will be given a vote of confidence, since he will have made it the five years required to evaluate a hire, though in usual MU fashion, the Wojo to ____ rumors will start flying.
This is all happening, a #donedeal according to sources, ai na? We'll have to respect the process, but I know because I played high school basketball before attending a Catholic 7 school on my way to becoming a gold sweater vest wearer.
Innovative poetry....and yet somehow familiar.
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Innovative poetry....and yet somehow familiar.
Scoop is a site that
both informs us on Bball
and has humor too
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Sorry, but that's just total BS nonsense.
If you can't find any humor in chapmans post then I honestly feel bad for you.
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Think in that order? I mean those are the 4 guys I know we are high on based on the conversations I've read on some other threads.
Coffey
Washington
Kostas
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Coffey
Washington
Kostas
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Winston
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Where's the need for Winston now with a freshman point guard this year is Traci Carter and a transfer in Andrew Rowsey, who while more of a combo, can play some point as can Duane Wilson.
Appears Kyle Washington is the next man up for the last scholarship for the 2016-2017 season.
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As much as I'd love Winston, I agree that ship sailed with Rowsey. Washington fills the overwhelming need of replacing Henry if he goes and I love the idea of Henry being able to practice against an actual 4.
Take Washington, keep after Kostas and Coffey in case a scholarship opens.
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As much as I'd love Winston, I agree that ship sailed with Rowsey. Washington fills the overwhelming need of replacing Henry if he goes and I love the idea of Henry being able to practice against an actual 4.
Take Washington, keep after Kostas and Coffey in case a scholarship opens.
+100
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Sorry, but that's just total BS nonsense.
That's nothing. Spend 15 minutes reading through the politics board. If you can last that long without killing yourself, then at the very least you will lose faith in all humanity.
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That's nothing. Spend 15 minutes reading through the politics board. If you can last that long without killing yourself, then at the very least you will lose faith in all humanity.
I'm still alive.
And I still have faith in humanity because I know it's just the interwebs and the blowhards on the board (including me) have no real effect on anything. It's entertainment, a way to kill time.
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I'm still alive.
And I still have faith in humanity because I know it's just the interwebs and the blowhards on the board (including me) have no real effect on anything. It's entertainment, a way to kill time.
I know, I'm just teasing. I'm glad people enjoy it. Just not for me.
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Sorry, but that's just total BS nonsense.
Source?
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Source?
well played
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 17m17 minutes ago
NC State's Kyle Washington will visit Marquette this weekend and Cincinnati next week, source told @CBSSports. Providence also in the mix.
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Good chance he don't make it to cincy.
Although I will say they are a pretty good type of team for him
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Source?
Alright guys, I can't read every post on scoop. If you want my opinion on a topic just PM me with a link to the thread.
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Alright guys, I can't read every post on scoop. If you want my opinion on a topic just PM me with a link to the thread.
Sorry, man. My bad.
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Alright guys, I can't read every post on scoop. If you want my opinion on a topic just PM me with a link to the thread.
I love Scoop, damnit.
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Who's recruiting prowess is amazing. Kids really have to deal die quickly to accept his offer before another recruit grabs it. It's like Wojo said, he wants kids who want to play at Marquette. Great job coach!
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Who's recruiting prowess is amazing. Kids really have to deal die quickly to accept his offer before another recruit grabs it. It's like Wojo said, he wants kids who want to play at Marquette. Great job coach!
Damn auto correct.
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How'd his visit go?
At least it wasn't cold and rainy, right?
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How'd his visit go?
At least it wasn't cold and rainy, right?
He'll be committed by end of week, at the latest.
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He'll be committed by end of week, at the latest.
Done Deal?
(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
??????????????????????
Source?
Respect the Process?
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Where are all of our "in the know" people? not a word on how his visit went? Come on people I want some news, I'm sick of talking about ISU, give me some MU gossip ;D
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Done Deal?
(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
??????????????????????
Source?
Respect the Process?
Thank you. Glad I get some respect!
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When?
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Where are all of our "in the know" people? not a word on how his visit went? Come on people I want some news, I'm sick of talking about ISU, give me some MU gossip ;D
Not much respect for CEO’s
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When?
See reply #98.
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Ok you concur with 98.
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Respect the process.
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Respect the process.
Let's not and say we did
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Let's not and say we did
Ouch.
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Ok you concur with 98.
Not really, note the number of question marks. I sure hope he's right, though.
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Ouch.
You are still a good person
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Visiting Cincinnati today, ?-(
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Visiting Cincinnati today, ?-(
They'll be a top 25 team this year but will struggle the following year.
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They'll be a top 25 team this year but will struggle the following year.
It looks like Kyle is concentrating on teams that will need him after his redshirt year is over. Smart.
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It looks like Kyle is concentrating on teams that will need him after his redshirt year is over. Smart.
If he were really smart he chooses us no doubt.
Loads of PT next year on a good team
And if Henry stays he still gets good PT and on a LOADED team.
Cincy will just offer him loads on a bad team.
I'd gamble on the good to loads of Pt for a good to great team personally.
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Cincinnati campus is in a really bad neighborhood when I visited there, program is going the wrong way, in an average conference, I will be surprised if he does not pick MU
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Cincinnati campus is in a really bad neighborhood when I visited there, program is going the wrong way, in an average conference, I will be surprised if he does not pick MU
Honestly, it wouldn't be a surprise to read the same said of Marquette on a Concy fan board. And, for the average fan who doesn't know the ins and out of every program, they wouldn't be wrong. Back-to-back seasons with no postseason play, a lesser conference, not the best neighborhood surrounding campus, etc.
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Honestly, it wouldn't be a surprise to read the same said of Marquette on a Concy fan board. And, for the average fan who doesn't know the ins and out of every program, they wouldn't be wrong. Back-to-back seasons with no postseason play, a lesser conference, not the best neighborhood surrounding campus, etc.
I was thinking the same point you are saying, except the team should be improved and the conference is better and you get to play a few games a year at Madison Square Garden, which I
think is a great selling point. Philly, Chicago, D.C., at Hinkle Field House, so there are some attractive locations to visit. Probably Hawaii shortly
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I was thinking the same point you are saying, except the team should be improved and the conference is better and you get to play a few games a year at Madison Square Garden, which I
think is a great selling point. Philly, Chicago, D.C., at Hinkle Field House, so there are some attractive locations to visit. Probably Hawaii shortly
I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I think the average Cincy fan would see things differently and, from that person's perspective, wouldn't be entirely wrong.
That person probably knows little of MU's incoming recruiting classes outside perhaps HE, doesn't know about upgrades at The Al, and probably doesn't see playing Villanova and Georgetown as any more attractive as UConn or Memphis.
Also, a case can be made for mid-winter road trips to Tampa, New Orleans and Houston being more enticing than to Chicago, Indianapolis and Philly.
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I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I think the average Cincy fan would see things differently and, from that person's perspective, wouldn't be entirely wrong.
That person probably knows little of MU's incoming recruiting classes outside perhaps HE, doesn't know about upgrades at The Al, and probably doesn't see playing Villanova and Georgetown as any more attractive as UConn or Memphis.
Also, a case can be made for mid-winter road trips to Tampa, New Orleans and Houston being more enticing than to Chicago, Indianapolis and Philly.
I do not even know who the coach of Cincinnati is anymore with Cronin out, but we can spin this any way you want. It is hard to believe UCLA is not there every year with that campus, student girls, etc. so...
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I do not even know who the coach of Cincinnati is anymore with Cronin out, but we can spin this any way you want. It is hard to believe UCLA is not there every year with that campus, student girls, etc. so...
1. Cronin isn't out. He'll be the coach this year.
2. I'm not spinning anything, just pointing out how your comments regarding UC's program could be said for MU just as easily.
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1. Cronin isn't out. He'll be the coach this year.
2. I'm not spinning anything, just pointing out how your comments regarding UC's program could be said for MU just as easily.
But no they can't.
We are not talking about the average fan who knows nothing here. We are talking about a kid making his college basketball decision through research.
Fact is MU is in a better conference. Plays in a NBA arena, at the garden, has a stud class coming in, offers him PT and a great team by the time he's eligible.
Same cannot be said for cincy.
This is just a "average fans" thoughts. These are facts.
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Cincinnati campus is in a really bad neighborhood when I visited there, program is going the wrong way, in an average conference, I will be surprised if he does not pick MU
Dude, MU ain't 'xactly in River Hills or The Quon, ai na?
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Of all the current scholies we have out, is Washington our #1 target?
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I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I think the average Cincy fan would see things differently and, from that person's perspective, wouldn't be entirely wrong.
The average Cincy fan probably thinks they have better chili too but that doesn't change the fact that Real Chili is better.
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The average Cincy fan probably thinks they have better chili too but that doesn't change the fact that Real Chili is better.
Never had Cincy's offering but I know this to be true.
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So will he be committed by the end of the work week or does he get Saturday as well?
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But no they can't.
We are not talking about the average fan who knows nothing here. We are talking about a kid making his college basketball decision through research.
Fact is MU is in a better conference. Plays in a NBA arena, at the garden, has a stud class coming in, offers him PT and a great team by the time he's eligible.
Same cannot be said for cincy.
This is just a "average fans" thoughts. These are facts.
UC offers him more playing time. They will also be the better team next season (when he sits out). Depending on transfers, pro decisions, and 2016 recruiting, they could be better the following year.
Plus, all these factors are usually trumped by the connection a recruit feels towards a coach and his potential teammates. I think we get him but Cincy is a quality program.
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Of all the current scholies we have out, is Washington our #1 target?
Yes, he's the only option out there for a schollie for this coming year. There's time for schollies to open up for Coffey, etc. Plus, he'd be a Big East ready big from the get go for 2016-17, unlike anyone MU could get from the 2016 HS class or even JUCO ranks (which Woj is less likely to hit on anyway).
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Of all the current scholies we have out, is Washington our #1 target?
Maybe. I think him and Coffey are our only two targets right now.
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Maybe. I think him and Coffey are our only two targets right now.
I wouldn't say that. Top two targets for sure. But Wojo has 10+ offers out for 2016.
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I wouldn't say that. Top two targets for sure. But Wojo has 10+ offers out for 2016.
True. I should have phrased it better. But if both of those guys decide to commit I would imagine he'd be done for 2016.
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True. I should have phrased it better. But if both of those guys decide to commit I would imagine he'd be done for 2016.
I think he would be done for the fall signing period. He of course will continue to recruit for the spring signing period just in case someone decides to transfer.
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He'll be committed by end of week, at the latest.
I'm digging that Kyle Washington commitment. Good thing we got the pledge by the end of the week or your words would be scrutinized.
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Never had Cincy's offering but I know this to be true.
I have eaten at Skyline and Real Chili hundreds of times, respectively. One is clearly better. Kyle should choose Marquette.
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2014/03/cincinnati-chili-parlor-named-one-of-nation-s-best.html
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I have eaten at Skyline and Real Chili hundreds of times, respectively. One is clearly better. Kyle should choose Marquette.
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2014/03/cincinnati-chili-parlor-named-one-of-nation-s-best.html
Skyline looks like baby poop and tastes gross, too.
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Let's see what Deadspin's take is.
http://foodspin.deadspin.com/watch-these-non-ohioans-try-to-eat-gross-ass-cincinnati-1650033824
http://deadspin.com/the-great-american-menu-foods-of-the-states-ranked-an-1349137024
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I have eaten at Skyline and Real Chili hundreds of times, respectively. One is clearly better. Kyle should choose Marquette.
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2014/03/cincinnati-chili-parlor-named-one-of-nation-s-best.html
The first time I went to Real Chili I was confused by the noodles. I never once had it with pasta. Chili and macaroni are mutually exclusive.
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So I'm guessing the the Kyle Washington Ship is about to sail. He said he wanted to Visit MU and Cincy. Now he has visited both and still no commitment... the longer this goes on the more i think he will end up elsewhere.
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Yeah...any news on this front???
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That one guy in this thread said he was committing last week?
I guess there's nothing left to do but respect the process. :-\
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So I'm guessing the the Kyle Washington Ship is about to sail. He said he wanted to Visit MU and Cincy. Now he has visited both and still no commitment... the longer this goes on the more i think he will end up elsewhere.
I think this is the best way to interpret this.
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So I'm guessing the the Kyle Washington Ship is about to sail. He said he wanted to Visit MU and Cincy. Now he has visited both and still no commitment... the longer this goes on the more i think he will end up elsewhere.
This is a big decision. He got back from Cincy a few days ago. Maybe give him at least a week before starting to write him off?
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Kyle and his family will be thoughtful. Don't know how this one will break, but the length of time does not cause me concern.
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Is he eligible to play one or two years after next year?
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Is he eligible to play one or two years after next year?
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Is he eligible to play one or two years after next year?
Dos.
Older guy already.. been 21 about almost a year already IIRC.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't sweating out whether Henry leaves after one year before he decides.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't sweating out whether Henry leaves after one year before he decides.
If so, I hope he figures out that Hank won't be making that decision for at least 10 months or so.
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If so, I hope he figures out that Hank won't be making that decision for at least 10 months or so.
I think the decision has already been made. barring something unforeseen he is gone.
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I think the decision has already been made. barring something unforeseen he is gone.
The decision is far from made. He won't decide until the spring.
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The decision is far from made. He won't decide until the spring.
So far he has not shown up on campus, which means he is not attending summer school. No need to attend summer school, if you are going pro.
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So far he has not shown up on campus, which means he is not attending summer school. No need to attend summer school, if you are going pro.
He graduated after summer school started. He will be here in July. (Along with Haanif and Heldt...or are they turning pro too???)
I believe that for the past few years, NO player was here before July. The fact that Traci and Sacar are here now is an exception to past practice.
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I think the decision has already been made. barring something unforeseen he is gone.
I just don't believe that the decision can be made for any of the 2016 draft class. What if you come out and simply can't adjust to the speed or physicality of the game? What if you are exposed as a player not worthy of a draft pick, much less a lottery or first round pick? What if you suffer an injury and miss the entire season?
Way too many variables for that decision to already be made. And if the decision were made and if Washington were basing his own decision on if Henry is going pro, then what would be stopping him from making a commitment now?
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So far he has not shown up on campus, which means he is not attending summer school. No need to attend summer school, if you are going pro.
This statement should have been in teal right? If not, you are a true conspiracy theorist.
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The "Is Henry leaving after one year" discussion will be a nice change of pace from the "Is (insert player name here) transferring after the year" discussion. NOT!
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I just don't believe that the decision can be made for any of the 2016 draft class. What if you come out and simply can't adjust to the speed or physicality of the game? What if you are exposed as a player not worthy of a draft pick, much less a lottery or first round pick? What if you suffer an injury and miss the entire season?
Way too many variables for that decision to already be made. And if the decision were made and if Washington were basing his own decision on if Henry is going pro, then what would be stopping him from making a commitment now?
My point exactly. I believe that Marquette is his first choice, but Cincinnati has the benefit of being the safe choice since his chance to start when he's eligible isn't dependent on what a talented freshman decides to/has the opportunity to do. Keep in mind that this is a guy who expected to be starting at NC State then found himself recruited over.
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The "Is Henry leaving after one year" discussion will be a nice change of pace from the "Is (insert player name here) transferring after the year" discussion. NOT!
No sh*t! Just enjoy it while you have it, not stress about when it may be gone.
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So far he has not shown up on campus, which means he is not attending summer school. No need to attend summer school, if you are going pro.
He is coming for the second session of summer school. That is the only one athletes are required to be on campus and take classes for. R-E-L-A-X
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Washington will visit Providence -
https://twitter.com/stacdemon/status/611308696010887168
A glacial recruiting process to say the least...
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Yeah this kid is really taking his time lol.
Considering he has to sit out anyways there probably isn't any need to rush it
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Yeah this kid is really taking his time lol.
Considering he has to sit out anyways there probably isn't any need to rush it
How dare he inconvenience us!
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How dare he inconvenience us!
Your reading skills not too good?
Like the comprehending part?
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Your reading skills not too good?
Like the comprehending part?
You be kidding, right?
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Question I have is how long is Wojo willing to wait considering the limited number of openings for 2016.
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Question I have is how long is Wojo willing to wait considering the limited number of openings for 2016.
If Javin Montgomery-DeLaurier or another 2016 big wants to commit, its a no brainer, bye Kyle.
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Question I have is how long is Wojo willing to wait considering the limited number of openings for 2016.
Reading between the lines, we are not going to see Washington in a marquette jersey. What's Wojo's next move?
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Reading between the lines, we are not going to see Washington in a marquette jersey. What's Wojo's next move?
Hold the scholarship for 2016. There is only one right now.
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Question I have is how long is Wojo willing to wait considering the limited number of openings for 2016.
Idk if it really matters. Washington seems to be the PF priority and Coffey is getting a spot regardless if he wants one.
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If Javin Montgomery-DeLaurier or another 2016 big wants to commit, its a no brainer, bye Kyle.
100% agree.
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Hold the scholarship for 2016. There is only one right now.
Holy cow!!! Dogs and rabbits co-habitating. I agree with Sultan on this.
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If Javin Montgomery-DeLaurier or another 2016 big wants to commit, its a no brainer, bye Kyle.
Agreed. I have no problem moving on from Washington, but we could really use another big with that last scholarship.
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Plenty of time to wait on Kyle Washington. I'm guessing he'll be enrolled somewhere by July so we should know soon. Then Wojo can set his July priorities depending on whether or not Kyle chooses MU.
Until then respect the process.
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Plenty of time to wait on Kyle Washington. I'm guessing he'll be enrolled somewhere by July so we should know soon. Then Wojo can set his July priorities depending on whether or not Kyle chooses MU.
Until then respect the process.
I agree with this. Wojo will know what he needs to know in plenty of time. It'll either be Washington or a big from the 2016 class verballing in September or October. Neither is playing for 18 months.
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I am not sold that Washington was that good, I do like him sitting out a year to improve, Wojo only has 1 schooly open so there is no rush. He can pinpoint Coffey and somebody else during
the July auditions. I think 2017 will be very important so he needs to look at a few bigs that year.
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I am not sold that Washington was that good, I do like him sitting out a year to improve, Wojo only has 1 schooly open so there is no rush. He can pinpoint Coffey and somebody else during
the July auditions. I think 2017 will be very important so he needs to look at a few bigs that year.
Are you not sold on Washington because he hasn't yet committed to Marquette?
Or, are you not sold on Washington because you actually watched him play 10-12 games at NC State and gathered an informed opinion on his game?
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A junior Washington is going to be better than any freshman Pf we could get in 2016.
Whether we're talking as an expeierenced back up to a loaded team with Hanks return or a upperclassman who can fill in and take the starting role if Hank bolts.
Assuming Wojo makes a PF a priority for 2017 then I don't see how Washington wouldn't be the preferred get. I'm good with either but people shouldn't be on the fence with this add.
And obviously as I've said a 1,000 times already...so long as Coffey is part of the class can't really go wrong.
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A junior Washington is going to be better than any freshman Pf we could get in 2016.
Whether we're talking as an expeierenced back up to a loaded team with Hanks return or a upperclassman who can fill in and take the starting role if Hank bolts.
Assuming Wojo makes a PF a priority for 2017 then I don't see how Washington wouldn't be the preferred get. I'm good with either but people shouldn't be on the fence with this add.
And obviously as I've said a 1,000 times already...so long as Coffey is part of the class can't really go wrong.
And any freshman PF that MU gets in 2016 will be better than the Kyle Washington we don't get which is all that anyone is saying. If Washington hasn't decided by the time that a freshman PF is ready to commit, you take the freshman.
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Yeah, it's called chit or get off the pot, ai na?
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And any freshman PF that MU gets in 2016 will be better than the Kyle Washington we don't get which is all that anyone is saying. If Washington hasn't decided by the time that a freshman PF is ready to commit, you take the freshman.
Uhhhhh what thread are you reading?
Everyone is saying either we got time to wait or that they are not convinced with Washington.
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And any freshman PF that MU gets in 2016 will be better than the Kyle Washington we don't get which is all that anyone is saying. If Washington hasn't decided by the time that a freshman PF is ready to commit, you take the freshman.
A freshmen cannot sign until November, so even a commitment is not a guarantee. I do not think Wojo would consider a commitment final until the player has visited and as far as I know there have been no visits by a power forward freshmen 2016 recruit. Given that we are not close to giving the scholarship to a freshmen power forward.
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Yeah, it's called chit or get off the pot, ai na?
Has that chit sailed, Ai na?
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Love it--scoopers are giving cyber-ultimatums to our recruits.
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A freshmen cannot sign until November, so even a commitment is not a guarantee. I do not think Wojo would consider a commitment final until the player has visited and as far as I know there have been no visits by a power forward freshmen 2016 recruit. Given that we are not close to giving the scholarship to a freshmen power forward.
I wouldn't consider a commitment final until the kid has started fall classes.
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I wouldn't consider a commitment final until the kid has started fall classes.
That's what Steve Cottingham told me a couple times.
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Anything new on this front?
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Anything new on this front?
He'll visit Providence on Thursday and Friday.
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He'll visit Providence on Thursday and Friday.
Thanks for the info. I hope them recounting the glory days of Bad News Barnes doesn't make him want to be a Friar!
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He'll visit Providence on Thursday and Friday.
Sorry if this appeared somewhere on this thread, but I read somewhere, think it was Bleacher Report (did I just admit to "bedazzling"?), that Providence coach Ed Cooley will not be present for Kyle's visit. Coach Cooley is out of the country while working with the Team USA under-19 squad. Will this hinder PC's chances?
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Looks like a decision's coming pretty soon. Gotta think pc's in the driver's seat...
https://twitter.com/pcbb1917/status/615626340000243713
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Looks like a decision's coming pretty soon. Gotta think pc's in the driver's seat...
https://twitter.com/pcbb1917/status/615626340000243713
Why?
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Gotta think pc's in the driver's seat...
I wouldn't count out Marquette
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Why?
No kidding. Everyone knows the Providence chili scene is rubbish!
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I have no info but idk why any of that would suggest Prov in the drivers seat.
It's been clear for weeks now he was going to take his time and visit all his options.
Now he has and will be making a decision soon.
Don't see how this announcement alone makes them favorites
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If KW visited us last before making his decision, this board would be all over it that he is ours to lose based upon similar reasoning.
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I'd only say that he's opted not to visit ASU, which had been in his latest pool of 4 schools, along with MU, UC and PC. Much to his credit, he's been deliberate. His visit to PC, reportedly, went quite well and so quickly after it he's ready to make a decision. I'll admit that the time expiration between now and his visit to MU just doesn't feel right. That said, although losing KW would be tough, there are still plenty of '16 options, including Coffey and players that Johnson has strong connections to via his time at ASU, including Brendan Bailey.
Now that I've said all of this, he'll probably choose MU.
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I'd only say that he's opted not to visit ASU, which had been in his latest pool of 4 schools, along with MU, UC and PC. Much to his credit, he's been deliberate. His visit to PC, reportedly, went quite well and so quickly after it he's ready to make a decision. I'll admit that the time expiration between now and his visit to MU just doesn't feel right. That said, although losing KW would be tough, there are still plenty of '16 options, including Coffey and players that Johnson has strong connections to via his time at ASU, including Brendan Bailey.
Now that I've said all of this, he'll probably choose MU.
Yeah I'm really not worried about it.
Coffey is the guy I want.
I'd prefer we get Washington but there are other 2016 PF options with a lot of promise too.
Heck, maybe for once everyone stays and we only need Coffey!!
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According to PC Hoops guru Mike Hopkins looks like it's down to UC and PC. C'est la guerre.
https://twitter.com/pcbb1917/status/615983510470443008
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Picked Cinci, per Jon Rothstein
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Dramatic turnaround from the belief it was only a matter of time until he became a Warrior to looking like the Warriors weren't a legitimate option at the end.
Feels like the Spring recruiting of grad free agents should best be described with the words horse and cart.
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Shucks.
So two unused schollies this year, and only one open for next year. A grad transfer (yes, I know KW was not one) sure would have made a ton of sense. Oh well.
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Wojo cooled on him.
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Anyone feel better about Henry staying 2 years after this news? Sure there are other variables at play but my first thought after he 1) took other visits and took his time after it seemed like Marquette was the team to beat and 2) obviously has now committed to Cincy, is that Wojo couldn't give him the assurance he needed that he'd be the 4 when he stepped in next season. Would've been nice to have him but I like other options that are out there.
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Anyone feel better about Henry staying 2 years after this news? Sure there are other variables at play but my first thought after he 1) took other visits and took his time after it seemed like Marquette was the team to beat and 2) obviously has now committed to Cincy, is that Wojo couldn't give him the assurance he needed that he'd be the 4 when he stepped in next season. Would've been nice to have him but I like other options that are out there.
No. Whether Henry stays or goes will entirely depend on how he plays this season. It never was possible for Wojo to have assured Washington that Henry would be gone.
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As I said, started to prefer we get Washington.
But as long as Coffey is snagged it's all good. And there are plenty of other PFs available.
My dream would still be Coffey and only Coffey due to the craziness of EVERYONE returning. I know its a crazy thought but I like all the guys we got coming in so I want them to stay!!
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Next man up, ai na?