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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Celtic Truth on April 03, 2015, 11:57:37 PM
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@WisBBYearbook: Kostas Antetokounmpo of Dominican and Playground Elite 17U was perhaps the biggest stock riser among WI class of 2016 kids today at NY2LA.
Just saw this tweet from Mark Miller.
Does anybody have more info on Kostas? I know he's at Dominican and I think he's class of 2016. Is Wojo interested? I know he's grown a lot lately, I think he's 6'7 now, and he has a long wiry build like Giannis. I looked him up online and there is very little info on him on any website in regards to recruiting. Giannis is on record saying that he thinks Kostas will end up being the best player in the family. Has anyone seen him play? How good is he, what offers/interest does he have now, and what offers do you think he is good enough to get?
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I've seen him play. And you can definitely tell he's the brother of Giannis. Very athletic and long but doesn't have a great shot yet. I'd be shocked if he doesn't improve drastically from now until next season. I would love to see Marquette take a chance on him.
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I've seen him play. And you can definitely tell he's the brother of Giannis. Very athletic and long but doesn't have a great shot yet. I'd be shocked if he doesn't improve drastically from now until next season. I would love to see Marquette take a chance on him.
I think when it's all said and done, there won't be anyone "taking a chance on him," rather there will be schools in lust with his potential services.
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I've been told Duquesne came in to watch Kostas during Dominicans's playoff run.
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I think when it's all said and done, there won't be anyone "taking a chance on him," rather there will be schools in lust with his potential services.
He's definitely had an adjustment period, which often happens with foreign kids coming over here. I could see him parlaying a solid summer into skyrocketing rankings. Not saying he'll have a Joel Embiid-type rise that takes him from outside the top-100 to inside the top-5 in under a year, but I don't think anyone would argue that from a potential standpoint, Kostas probably has as much upside as just about anyone in his class.
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And if there is interest from Marquette you have to think he would commit here in a second. That family is super tight-knit, with everything centered around Giannis being here.
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And if there is interest from Marquette you have to think he would commit here in a second. That family is super tight-knit, with everything centered around Giannis being here.
I'm not sure I would assume that, but you are right that the family is tight knit and does love Milwaukee. But his older brother is playing professional basketball for, I believe, the Knicks D League team. So that's a second part of the country that he would have family in when looking at colleges. And I'm sure Giannis could get some advice into what might be Kostas's best options if he has many options.
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One advantage could be Jabari Parker. His mutual relationships with Wojo and Giannis could be a real benefit.
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All depends how many scholarships Wojo gives out this spring to players who will return in 2016-2017. He's at 10 right now, so if he gives out one to a non-5th year player, he has 2 left for the 2016 class. Is this young man worthy of one of the two scholarships?
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All depends how many scholarships Wojo gives out this spring to players who will return in 2016-2017. He's at 10 right now, so if he gives out one to a non-5th year player, he has 2 left for the 2016 class. Is this young man worthy of one of the two scholarships?
Brings up a fair point. Hauser and Kostas both 6'7 and class of 2016. Clearly different styles, but worth noting.
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All depends how many scholarships Wojo gives out this spring to players who will return in 2016-2017. He's at 10 right now, so if he gives out one to a non-5th year player, he has 2 left for the 2016 class. Is this young man worthy of one of the two scholarships?
Looking at the 2016-17 roster, here's the breakdown...
Centers: Luke Fischer (Sr), Matt Heldt (So)
Forwards: Wally Ellenson (Sr), Henry Ellenson (So)
Wings: Jajuan Johnson (Sr), Sandy Cohen (Jr), Haanif Cheatham (So), Sacar Anim (So)
Guards: Duane Wilson (Jr), Traci Carter (So)
That roster could really use another guard. Beyond that, I'd say whomever the two most talented players Wojo can get are the way to go. Of course, that's assuming three scholarships remaining.
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Brings up a fair point. Hauser and Kostas both 6'7 and class of 2016. Clearly different styles, but worth noting.
As is Amir Coffey.
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As is Amir Coffey.
He'd be my first choice.
Just need Hoiberg to go for the money!!!
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Well then...
Corey Evans@coreyevans_10
Kostas Antetokounmpo is a crazy talent. Definite top 50 kid and chance to surpass many others ranked in that group in 2016 #SND2K15
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All depends how many scholarships Wojo gives out this spring to players who will return in 2016-2017. He's at 10 right now, so if he gives out one to a non-5th year player, he has 2 left for the 2016 class. Is this young man worthy of one of the two scholarships?
Ya but, you're not takin' our annual transfer or two inta account, ai na?
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I'm hoping that by November we won't be talking transfers. Next spring, who knows.
I hope the AD and administration have let Wojo know that oversigning in November is not an option.
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From what I've heard, Coffey, Winston, and Hauser are the top priorities for 2016. I would be surprised if Anteokounmpo doesn't get added to that list before all is said and done.
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Hopefully he plays summer ball to hone his game. Needs weight.
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We almost have to buy into the potential.
He's right in our backyard with a brother on the Bucks. If he blows up and we didn't make a run at him that would be awful.
I think there is a far better chance he turns into a star than a complete bust. So bank on him being somewhere in between.
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I think that eventually his ranking/interest will skyrocket. He has the credibility of being an NBA players brother, he has the size and athleticism, and he plays in a great highschool program. And his potential is through the roof because his game is fairly raw. I think he ends up being a top 25 guy a year from now. I hope Wojo gets on him early
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Hopefully he plays summer ball to hone his game. Needs weight.
Oh, I think after this weekend he'll take off until next fall.
PGE, mein, P.G.E.
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Oh, I think after this weekend he'll take off until next fall.
PGE, mein, P.G.E.
Very well worth noting that he plays for PGE. Safe to say the guy running that program has a bit of an interest in getting his best and brightest to Marquette, especially over the next three years.
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Very well worth noting that he plays for PGE. Safe to say the guy running that program has a bit of an interest in getting his best and brightest to Marquette, especially over the next three years.
Explain. Or perhaps, PM?
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Explain. Or perhaps, PM?
Playground Elite is ran by Duane Wilson, Sr.
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One advantage could be Jabari Parker. His mutual relationships with Wojo and Giannis could be a real benefit.
Any thoughts if this relationship might be strained by the STJ transfer?
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Any thoughts if this relationship might be strained by the STJ transfer?
Probably depends on circumstance and the reasons why Steve left. Seems like Parker has been nearby on just about every recruiting visit, and his relationship with Wojo is with the entire family, not just Steve.
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Any thoughts if this relationship might be strained by the STJ transfer?
I doubt it. I believe Wojo was Jabari's lead recruiter so it seems highly unlikely that a relationship could be strained by STJ transfer.
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Maybe Giannis will pony up and pay for Kostas to walk on at MU just like Juice was going to do for Toddler, ai'na?
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Maybe Giannis will pony up and pay for Kostas to walk on at MU just like Juice was going to do for Toddler, ai'na?
Or maybe Wojo could adopt him.
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Or maybe Wojo could adopt him.
Even better!
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GiannisAntetokounmpo – Verified account @G_ante34
Congrats Wisconsin for tonights game go get the next one baby!!!!!!!!!!!#GreatWin
8:53 PM - 4 Apr 2015
https://mobile.twitter.com/G_ante34/status/584564381825904641
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GiannisAntetokounmpo – Verified account @G_ante34
Congrats Wisconsin for tonights game go get the next one baby!!!!!!!!!!!#GreatWin
8:53 PM - 4 Apr 2015
https://mobile.twitter.com/G_ante34/status/584564381825904641
Means about as close to nothing as you could imagine. If Kostas' college choice comes down to his older brother tweeting a generic positive thing than we might as well not recruit anyone.
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Kostas is still very raw. Go for Hauser!
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Kostas is still very raw. Go for Hauser!
He is a perfect pick-up for the Badgers, Red-shirting is big at UW. They have 3 kids this year redshirting and it has helped in the maturity of there game. Kostas needs another year to work
on his game, but his upside is huge.
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Rivals released their updated 2016 class top 150. Still no Kostas for now
No Hauser either in top 150
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Rivals released their updated 2016 class top 150. Still no Kostas for now
No Hauser either in top 150
Hauser not bring in the top 150 is just another reason that Rivals is one of the worst recruiting services out there.
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Hauser not bring in the top 150 is just another reason that Rivals is one of the worst recruiting services out there.
Rivals is pretty bad. I like 247 and as much as I dislike ESPN, I do think they do a pretty good job with their recruiting rankings.
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Hauser not bring in the top 150 is just another reason that Rivals is one of the worst recruiting services out there.
They don't even have us listed with Cassius Winston when I know for a fact his final three are MSU, Michigan, and us.
Rivals is a joke
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Rivals is pretty bad. I like 247 and as much as I dislike ESPN, I do think they do a pretty good job with their recruiting rankings.
ESPN has gotten a lot better in the past year or so. Dedicated a lot more time to scouting.
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Hauser not bring in the top 150 is just another reason that Rivals is one of the worst recruiting services out there.
This update doesn't really mean a lot - based on the high school season mostly. And guys can develop very quickly at this age.
They will have a better feel for these guys after the summer season where guys are playing against their peers rather than some slow HS team whose center is 6'3".
If you noticed, a lot of the guys they had listed are being recruited by Mid-majors or less. That won't be the case after the fall update.
Rivals does tend to be a little behind with each update.
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This update doesn't really mean a lot - based on the high school season mostly. And guys can develop very quickly at this age.
They will have a better feel for these guys after the summer season where guys are playing against their peers rather than some slow HS team whose center is 6'3".
If you noticed, a lot of the guys they had listed are being recruited by Mid-majors or less. That won't be the case after the fall update.
Rivals does tend to be a little behind with each update.
Hey, what do you have against 6'3 centers for their high school teams?!? I take umbrage.
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Ya but, you're not takin' our annual transfer or two inta account, ai na?
Yeah, Iowa State has to have players, too!
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We almost have to buy into the potential.
He's right in our backyard with a brother on the Bucks. If he blows up and we didn't make a run at him that would be awful.
I think there is a far better chance he turns into a star than a complete bust. So bank on him being somewhere in between.
Okay, if you had to choose between Coffey and Antetokounmpo, who would you take?
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Okay, if you had to choose between Coffey and Antetokounmpo, who would you take?
Coffey.
But it ain't coming down to that lets be honest.
There is room for both if we can even win the Coffey bidding anyways
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Coffey.
But it ain't coming down to that lets be honest.
There is room for both if we can even win the Coffey bidding anyways
Marquette has a good shot at Coffey. I wouldn't lay down any money that he ends up here, but it's definitely possible.
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Coffey.
But it ain't coming down to that lets be honest.
There is room for both if we can even win the Coffey bidding anyways
They are both 6'7" perimeter guys, so...
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They are both 6'7" perimeter guys, so...
Are they both perimeter guys because they are both great shooters? If so, I want 'em both!
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Are they both perimeter guys because they are both great shooters? If so, I want 'em both!
Neither has the muscle nor has developed the game to play inside. And I think that we need a PG in next year's class. How many shooters who don't have the handle to be a SG can you have in one class? Don't we want Hauser, too? If we take two doesn't one have to be Hauser, if we want to get Joey Hauser later?
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They are both 6'7" perimeter guys, so...
Coffey as of now can play a multitude of positions. Kostas cannot. Just because they are the same size doesn't mean much. You could have both if they both hVe interest and are good enough
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What's Coffey's health status right now? I believe that he tore his ACL sometime around November so will he be able to participate in AAU this summer? I wonder if him being injured and Wojo getting on him early could be a blessing in disguise.
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What's Coffey's health status right now? I believe that he tore his ACL sometime around November so will he be able to participate in AAU this summer? I wonder if him being injured and Wojo getting on him early could be a blessing in disguise.
Out for AAU season most likely. He expressed interest in trying to come back for Peach Jam at the end of summer, but that seems unlikely
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Coffey as of now can play a multitude of positions. Kostas cannot. Just because they are the same size doesn't mean much. You could have both if they both hVe interest and are good enough
Coffey being able to handle SG would help, so maybe it's a choice between Hauser and Antetokounmpo. I can't see all three wanting to go to the same school in the same year, or a school using three scholarships in the same year on three such similar players.
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I know I'm not the only one...really excited to see which schools are watching Kostas and PGE out at the Hampton EYBL event this weekend.
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Coffey being able to handle SG would help, so maybe it's a choice between Hauser and Antetokounmpo. I can't see all three wanting to go to the same school in the same year, or a school using three scholarships in the same year on three such similar players.
I definitely agree that all 3 probably ain't gona choose us no would it be a good idea to get all 3.
I'd take any of them but coffey and Kostas would be my preferred two
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Out for AAU season most likely. He expressed interest in trying to come back for Peach Jam at the end of summer, but that seems unlikely
Not to me.
Still think UNC is a major concern with regard to competition for other schools.
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Not to me.
Really? Coffey had ACL surgery over Christmas break. He's only 3+ months out. He even tweeted the other day "Really wish I could play my last season of eybl"
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Really? Coffey had ACL surgery over Christmas break. He's only 3+ months out. He even tweeted the other day "Really wish I could play my last season of eybl"
But JayBee knows all.....just ask him about Big Chris and Texas Southern.
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But JayBee knows all.....just ask him about Big Chris and Texas Southern.
I get that you and JayBee had a major disagreement on one matter. IMHO, JayBee is owed more respect on this board than you seem able to abide.
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I get that you and JayBee had a major disagreement on one matter. IMHO, JayBee is owed more respect on this board than you seem able to abide.
Ohhh no, I think JayBee is one of the most knowledgable minds on this board when it comes to hoops. And clearly knows what he's talking about at the high school level as well (has called a number of recruits early on as being too hyped/undersold for example). I clearly should've used teal on that post. It wasn't so much a disagreement on the Texas Southern thing, just didn't understand why that love-affair went on for so long. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
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Really? Coffey had ACL surgery over Christmas break. He's only 3+ months out. He even tweeted the other day "Really wish I could play my last season of eybl"
Yes, really. While the EYBL regular season ends in ~7 weeks here in the Twin Cities, the EYBL Peach Jam and other tournaments are in July.
A number of things would go into a decision to play in July, but what I said is I don't think it's "unlikely."
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Mark miler says that MU, Fla st, and St. Louis are showin interest
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Iowa State has offered Kostas. Believe it's his first offer.
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Iowa State has offered Kostas. Believe it's his first offer.
He's not allowed to go to Iowa State unless he transfers out of Marquette.
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He's not allowed to go to Iowa State unless he transfers out of Marquette.
I think the Mods should ban that comment so we don't have to read it EVERY time a recruit is considering both schools.
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I think the Mods should ban that comment so we don't have to read it EVERY time a recruit is considering both schools.
Buzz to Iowa State.
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FWIW...Jerry Meyer predicted Kostas to MU.
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FWIW...Jerry Meyer predicted Kostas to MU.
Probably the first time he ever picked anyone to Marquette before Mark Miller did.
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http://marquette.247sports.com/Bolt/Kostas-Antetokounmpo-A-five-star-talent-37281247
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Definitely seems like Rowsey, Washington, Hauser, Coffey, and Kostas are the five targets for our three scholarships. Wouldn't be surprised if our three schollies somehow became four or five. I'd be happy with any combination of the above group.
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WOJO has killed it in recruiting so far....
NOW....
Grab KOSTAS! He has the most upside......he's a late bloomer and it looks like he's still growing ala Giannis
He has rare length/athleticism just like his Freak brothers. Develop that.
BONUS: there's another younger Antetokounmpo brother
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I feel like Hauser is almost a given. Rowsey is probably 50/50 between us and Cincy. My dream scenario would be adding two grad transfers (Jordan Daniels and Tomasz Gielo seem like realistic and modest hopes) still and somehow landing Hauser, Winston, and Kostas for 2016. I like Coffey, but the injury history is worrisome and Kostas seems like that kid we might really regret if we don't bring him in.
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Giannis has unlimited potential and Thanasis is the original "Greek Freak"......he got the name from his supreme athleticism. Good genes.
Kostas already has crazy length and I think he's still growing. His wingspan is enormous and he's athletic. Sign him up.
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I saw him play at Concordia last year and was totally underwhelmed, guess I'm the only one.
Can't believed 24/7 has him ranked #21 HS Junior.
Smiled when I saw who is AAU coach is.
Hoping family connections keep him close to home.
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It's all about potential. Swing for the fences.....
Get Kostas.....and now you can really recruit....Giannis and Jabari training at MU
Giannis would for sure be practicing with his bro and Wojo + Jabari are tight. Get them to practice often and you have recruiting gold. Beyond the recruiting perspective, you now have 2 stud NBA players you practice against.....playing someone better helps you grow
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I saw him play at Concordia last year and was totally underwhelmed, guess I'm the only one.
Can't believed 24/7 has him ranked #21 HS Junior.
Smiled when I saw who is AAU coach is.
Hoping family connections keep him close to home.
Don't worry, you aren't. Kostas came over very, very raw. In many ways, like Giannis did. Remember, people were lauding Giannis as the second coming in Milwaukee despite putting up 6.8 ppg/4.4 rpg as a rookie. Not overwhelming numbers, but he had promise.
Kostas is similar. He won't always put up numbers, but he's got potential. I remember talking to someone about the game where Corey Evans started gushing over Kostas. Talked about how he was a top-50 player, was in for a big ratings bump, and just amazing potential. To read Corey's feed, you'd think Kostas was dominating at both ends. Well, my friend watched that same game and Kostas put up two points. Two. He was totally unimpressed, and this is a guy that watches his fair share of AAU ball.
I think Kostas is a massive boom or bust type player. If you take a chance on him, you may get a guy who blossoms at the right time, puts up crazy numbers, and is a one-and-done talent. You might also get a guy who struggles to figure it out and takes time to acclimate. Might need to transfer to clear his head and get the right situation, considering the nature of college sports these days, especially if he came to Marquette only to redshirt and see his brother leave in free agency in 2-3 years.
Considering you get 13 scholarships, I think he's worth the risk. I'm expecting Hauser to come, but after that, Cassius Winston and Kostas Antetokounmpo are the two players I most want in 2016. And I don't say that in the "of all the players we've been linked to..." way, I mean it in the "If I could pick any two players in the 2016 class to roll the dice with, including guys currently in the top-5, I'd take Winston and Kostas over any of them" way. I think Winston is that good, as good if not better than any PG in the country, and when you consider the Bucks connection and the potential upside, I would take Kostas over even a Jayson Tatum or Harry Giles.
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I think we take him just to open the door of having Giannis and Jabari on the team
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Don't worry, you aren't. Kostas came over very, very raw. In many ways, like Giannis did. Remember, people were lauding Giannis as the second coming in Milwaukee despite putting up 6.8 ppg/4.4 rpg as a rookie. Not overwhelming numbers, but he had promise.
Kostas is similar. He won't always put up numbers, but he's got potential. I remember talking to someone about the game where Corey Evans started gushing over Kostas. Talked about how he was a top-50 player, was in for a big ratings bump, and just amazing potential. To read Corey's feed, you'd think Kostas was dominating at both ends. Well, my friend watched that same game and Kostas put up two points. Two. He was totally unimpressed, and this is a guy that watches his fair share of AAU ball.
I think Kostas is a massive boom or bust type player. If you take a chance on him, you may get a guy who blossoms at the right time, puts up crazy numbers, and is a one-and-done talent. You might also get a guy who struggles to figure it out and takes time to acclimate. Might need to transfer to clear his head and get the right situation, considering the nature of college sports these days, especially if he came to Marquette only to redshirt and see his brother leave in free agency in 2-3 years.
Considering you get 13 scholarships, I think he's worth the risk. I'm expecting Hauser to come, but after that, Cassius Winston and Kostas Antetokounmpo are the two players I most want in 2016. And I don't say that in the "of all the players we've been linked to..." way, I mean it in the "If I could pick any two players in the 2016 class to roll the dice with, including guys currently in the top-5, I'd take Winston and Kostas over any of them" way. I think Winston is that good, as good if not better than any PG in the country, and when you consider the Bucks connection and the potential upside, I would take Kostas over even a Jayson Tatum or Harry Giles.
So I take it you've seen Cassius play and you still think he's the best point guard in the country? I have seen him and granted it was an off night, but if he's the best point guard in his class then this is a weak class. I definitely want the kid to come to MU and think he's going to be a stud, but after watching him play there's no part of me that's ready to label him the best point guard in the country.
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Jerry Meyer is gambling with that ranking. Sees the upside and wants to be the first.
This sounds a bit like UW's mentality with Hauser, but MU has a lot of built-in advantages for Kostas. They can afford to take things a little slower at this point.
And I wouldn't worry about the scholarship situation. In college ball, you can almost count on at least one transfer.
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and see his brother leave in free agency in 2-3 years.
Not happening. We're already talking about years from now, but the Bucks are going to match any offer on the Greek Freak.
If Kostas goes to MU.....Giannis and Jabari become part of the team too
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People need to pump the brakes on Kostas. The hype...the #21 ranking...all based on his brother being a budding NBA star...and we don't even know if Giannis will reach true star level or be just a solid NBA starter.
The main aspect at work...FOMO: Fear of missing out. The fact that Kostas has an older brother in the NBA is inflating his ranking. Smacks of Jerry Meyer trying to be smart and ahead of the curve in relation to other recruiting gurus. The "#21 junior" couldn't even beat out Jake Bennett for a starting spot at Dominican.
The fact that Giannis plays for the Bucks has some Scoopers also experiencing FOMO...We can't let Kostas go elsewhere! Besides, how cool would it be to have both brothers starring in Milwaukee! Giannis can take the Bucks to the NBA Finals while Kostas leads us to the National Championship!
I do see the potential in Kostas...he's toolsy...great length, athleticism, decent jumper...but by no means is he a sure thing...more potential than production at this point. He's a total lottery ticket...you might hit the jackpot...you might not win anything...or you might one of the other prizes. If Wojo lands him, fine...but I'm not totally sold...yet.
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So I take it you've seen Cassius play and you still think he's the best point guard in the country? I have seen him and granted it was an off night, but if he's the best point guard in his class then this is a weak class. I definitely want the kid to come to MU and think he's going to be a stud, but after watching him play there's no part of me that's ready to label him the best point guard in the country.
Probably an off night. Until he broke his wrist, he was tearing the EYBL a new poopshoot in style. There's probably a half-dozen PGs this year that there isn't much separation between. The knocks on Winston is that he's probably the smallest among those guys and he is sometimes turnover-prone. As a pro prospect, I'd take Simmons or Fox, but I think Winston will be a phenomenal college PG.
It will be interesting to see how the wrist impacts his rankings, he seemed to be headed for the top-10 before the break.
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All of the hype/potential is his genetics. His oldest brother is a professional soccer player.....next oldest is Thanasis, who is a supreme athlete and professional basketball player.....next is Giannis......that's 3 professional athlete's in a row.
3 out of 3 brothers so far are professional athletes.....Sign Kostas and develop him
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Probably an off night. Until he broke his wrist, he was tearing the EYBL a new poopshoot in style. There's probably a half-dozen PGs this year that there isn't much separation between. The knocks on Winston is that he's probably the smallest among those guys and he is sometimes turnover-prone. As a pro prospect, I'd take Simmons or Fox, but I think Winston will be a phenomenal college PG.
It will be interesting to see how the wrist impacts his rankings, he seemed to be headed for the top-10 before the break.
So you haven't seen him play?
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So you haven't seen him play?
Just highlights and talking to people about his game.
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People need to pump the brakes on Kostas. The hype...the #21 ranking...all based on his brother being a budding NBA star...and we don't even know if Giannis will reach true star level or be just a solid NBA starter.
The main aspect at work...FOMO: Fear of missing out. The fact that Kostas has an older brother in the NBA is inflating his ranking. Smacks of Jerry Meyer trying to be smart and ahead of the curve in relation to other recruiting gurus. The "#21 junior" couldn't even beat out Jake Bennett for a starting spot at Dominican.
The fact that Giannis plays for the Bucks has some Scoopers also experiencing FOMO...We can't let Kostas go elsewhere! Besides, how cool would it be to have both brothers starring in Milwaukee! Giannis can take the Bucks to the NBA Finals while Kostas leads us to the National Championship!
I do see the potential in Kostas...he's toolsy...great length, athleticism, decent jumper...but by no means is he a sure thing...more potential than production at this point. He's a total lottery ticket...you might hit the jackpot...you might not win anything...or you might one of the other prizes. If Wojo lands him, fine...but I'm not totally sold...yet.
+1
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Let's think big picture....Kostas has Giannis and Jabari playing at the Al....and then they bring in pretty much the whole young Bucks team....
Recruiting GOLD
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MU barely can find enough players to round out a squad lately, so taking a gamble on a 6'9" player with great genes is a no brainer. You have to look at a kid 2 to 3 years down the road and
the best example is his brother, in one year you can see how he has matured. By the time Kostas will be 20 he should be fine and that is in 3 years. Let see how he improves this year at Dominican.
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I do see the potential in Kostas...he's toolsy...great length, athleticism, decent jumper...but by no means is he a sure thing...more potential than production at this point. He's a total lottery ticket...you might hit the jackpot...you might not win anything...or you might one of the other prizes. If Wojo lands him, fine...but I'm not totally sold...yet.
This is why I'd want Winston and Kostas above any others. Winston is pure production, Kostas is pure potential.
Remember, there were reservations about Joel Embiid and Myles Turner when Marquette started recruiting them as well.
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MU barely can find enough players to round out a squad lately, so taking a gamble on a 6'9" player with great genes is a no brainer. You have to look at a kid 2 to 3 years down the road and
the best example is his brother, in one year you can see how he has matured. By the time Kostas will be 20 he should be fine and that is in 3 years. Let see how he improves this year at Dominican.
They have three scholarships available for 2016. If Rowsey takes one, and Hauser takes one, we are down to one left assuming no transfers and HE doesn't leave early.
MU will be in a position *not* to take a flyer on someone. And I don't think you can look at two brothers and project one to be as good as the other. You have to make that decision independently.
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By all accounts his stock has been on the ride because of his play and his potential. I'd put money that the blue bloods will be calling on him. I like our chances and I'd take him in a heart beat.
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Blind stats from two PGE players for 4 games in session 3 at EYBL:
Player A
13.3 ppg 11.3 rpg 1.0 apg 0.5 spg 1.5 bpg 1.8 TO/game
24.3 mpg shooting (FG%/3pt%/FT%)= .455/.500/.563
Player B
7.5 ppg 3.3 rpg 0.3 apg 0.5 spg 0.8 bpg 1.8 TO/game
25.3 mpg shooting= .267/.188/.550
Which player do you give the scholarship to? Player A or Player B?
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player A
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They have three scholarships available for 2016. If Rowsey takes one, and Hauser takes one, we are down to one left assuming no transfers and HE doesn't leave early.
MU will be in a position *not* to take a flyer on someone. And I don't think you can look at two brothers and project one to be as good as the other. You have to make that decision independently.
Problems that bring a smile to the face
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Blind stats from two PGE players for 4 games in session 3 at EYBL:
Player A
13.3 ppg 11.3 rpg 1.0 apg 0.5 spg 1.5 bpg 1.8 TO/game
24.3 mpg shooting (FG%/3pt%/FT%)= .455/.500/.563
Player B
7.5 ppg 3.3 rpg 0.3 apg 0.5 spg 0.8 bpg 1.8 TO/game
25.3 mpg shooting= .267/.188/.550
Which player do you give the scholarship to? Player A or Player B?
Depends on so many factors...show me the advanced stats....doesn't matter.......he's all about potential
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How tall is he now? I think he grows at least another inch.
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Coffey is the man.
Will check in on Kostas next weekend. Brutal year for PGE in EYBL.
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Jay Bee, do you know Coffey's timeline? Will he sign in the fall or wait for spring in hopes of parlaying a big senior year into bigger offers?
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Jay Bee, do you know Coffey's timeline? Will he sign in the fall or wait for spring in hopes of parlaying a big senior year into bigger offers?
I just don't know how it'll turn out. There are reasons to do it one way vs. another. If him and the family get comfortable with a decision today, I could see him ending things now... but, if a certain school.. say UNC... is showing a lot of interest but wants to see him in action some more... it could go on for quite some time.
I think the Coffey family is very smart, thoughtful.. not new to this at all. So they'll be reasonable and realistic... but thorough.
In short: No idea which way it'll go.
edit: PS, as a reminder.. Henry and Amir played together for the Minnesota Pump N Run (D1 Minnesota) U15 team a few years ago.... and of course have been together for USA BBall.
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Thanks Jay Bee.
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http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2015-05-15/kostas-antetokounmpo-greek-freak-giannis-thanasis
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I feel like Hauser is almost a given. Rowsey is probably 50/50 between us and Cincy. My dream scenario would be adding two grad transfers (Jordan Daniels and Tomasz Gielo seem like realistic and modest hopes) still and somehow landing Hauser, Winston, and Kostas for 2016. I like Coffey, but the injury history is worrisome and Kostas seems like that kid we might really regret if we don't bring him in.
Please no Rowsey.
I don't think you can hold the ACL against Coffey. That just happens. Unless it comes to show his knees are shot Fulce still.
But I couldn't argue going Kostas instead.
However Winston is basically a no chance isn't he?
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Please no Rowsey.
Even if Wojo wants him?
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Blind stats from two PGE players for 4 games in session 3 at EYBL:
Player A
13.3 ppg 11.3 rpg 1.0 apg 0.5 spg 1.5 bpg 1.8 TO/game
24.3 mpg shooting (FG%/3pt%/FT%)= .455/.500/.563
Player B
7.5 ppg 3.3 rpg 0.3 apg 0.5 spg 0.8 bpg 1.8 TO/game
25.3 mpg shooting= .267/.188/.550
Which player do you give the scholarship to? Player A or Player B?
Player A= Bryce Nze
Player B= Kostas Blackledge Antetokounmpo
The best thing Kostas has going for him is his last name. Maybe he will blow up but right now he's little more than a hot stock tip...hype over substance...he's worth monitoring but I'm still a long way from joining the band wagon...I'm taking the wait and see approach.
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Even if Wojo wants him?
Well, as of now I trust wojo. No reason not too.
But I'd strongly prefer he went elsewhere
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Give me Rowsey. Give me Hauser. Give me Coffey. Give me Kostas. There will be a transfer in the next year or so. Always happens, no reason to expect that will change.
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Player A= Bryce Nze
Player B= Kostas Blackledge Antetokounmpo
The best thing Kostas has going for him is his last name. Maybe he will blow up but right now he's little more than a hot stock tip...hype over substance...he's worth monitoring but I'm still a long way from joining the band wagon...I'm taking the wait and see approach.
With 13 scholarships I see no reason taking a gamble on a kid who is 6'9" who probably is just growing into his body who has 2 professionals already in his family. Why not? Is brother has a lot to learn yet but he has matured and this year was 30% better than last. I expect 20% more next year from Giannis, with about 300 jumpers a day this summer.
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Give me Rowsey. Give me Hauser. Give me Coffey. Give me Kostas. There will be a transfer in the next year or so. Always happens, no reason to expect that will change.
If there's one thing I've learned over the last 5 or so years, it's this.
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Give me Rowsey. Give me Hauser. Give me Coffey. Give me Kostas. There will be a transfer in the next year or so. Always happens, no reason to expect that will change.
Give me Kyle Washington instead of Kostas. The rest I agree on. If not Washington, then what other big men options does MU have? Then Kostas. If Kostas starts to put it together he'll climb the ladder. He's just not there yet for me. Wojo may have other plans just my point of view.
I'd definitely take Harry Giles over Kostas if he were at all realistic. I'd love to get Cassius Winston too but think he'll go to Mich St.
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I would take Kostas over even a Jayson Tatum or Harry Giles.
No F'n way. Kostas might end up being a better pro in 7 years, but these two guys are beyond light years ahead of him.
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Grab him. At worst, he is a 6'9 (and growing) project. At best, he steps right into Henry's shoes after he goes 1-and-done after taking MU to the elite 8. ;D
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No F'n way. Kostas might end up being a better pro in 7 years, but these two guys are beyond light years ahead of him.
Remember how far everyone was ahead of Embiid at this time? If not for injury, he likely would have gone ahead of Wiggins and Jabari. I'm rolling the dice that Kostas is experiencing a similar rise. Could easily end up being wrong. Hell, the odds are heavily in favor of me being wrong. But I'm betting the sky is the limit for Giannis' little bro.
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You must have missed the memo, but Henry is staying four years now.
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Maybe Giannis will pay for his tuition to keep him in Milwaukee. Then, he won't take up a scholarship.
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Maybe Giannis will pay for his tuition to keep him in Milwaukee. Then, he won't take up a scholarship.
yeah, just like oj's paying for todd's.
people who think this stuff actually happened are funny. players don't willfully give up money. they take every single last penny they can get. if his brother (or dad, see mcdermott)were the coach at marquette then he would "walk on"...in that he would get free tuition to school due to his dad being an employee at the school...not because dad (or brother) paid for his son to go to school.
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Nah, Wojo can just adopt him, hey?
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i retract my statement. just put mu's tuition on the buck's expense account for giannis.
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Is Kostas's last name pronounced: An-tee-toe-ko-un-po? I have been struggling with this the entire thread.
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Player A= Bryce Nze
Player B= Kostas Blackledge Antetokounmpo
The best thing Kostas has going for him is his last name. Maybe he will blow up but right now he's little more than a hot stock tip...hype over substance...he's worth monitoring but I'm still a long way from joining the band wagon...I'm taking the wait and see approach.
So you are the type that would pick kaminsky over okafur?
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So you are the type that would pick kaminsky over okafur?
Depends whether you are talking college or NBA. BTW, Kaminsky was the tallest guy at the combine - 6'11" 3/4
In other news, Pat Connaughton recorded the 2nd best max vertical leap in NBA combine history. Anyone see that coming?
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So you are the type that would pick kaminsky over okafur?
One on one at the Kohl Center? I am the type taking Kaminsky. Are coaches allowed??? If so, I select Bo Ryan just to keep it real.
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Depends whether you are talking college or NBA. BTW, Kaminsky was the tallest guy at the combine - 6'11" 3/4
In other news, Pat Connaughton recorded the 2nd best max vertical leap in NBA combine history. Anyone see that coming?
Also has a 100mph fastball. Take the longevity of MLB.
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Sure seems to have exploded in the national rankings.
http://247sports.com/Player/Kostas-Antetokounmpo-81333
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C'mon man. I mean, Kostas get on board and do the right thin' by joinin' Rowsey and Hauser in the MU Trifecta, hey?
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Sure seems to have exploded ...
And you know how painful that can be!
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And you know how painful that can be!
Well played.
I would hope Wojo wants him. Pretty tough to coach 6' 9" and probably still growing plus the bloodlines are pretty incredible. So if I have my numbers correct we have 2 available '16 slots at the moment? This of course assume HE stays for at least his Sophomore year.
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It always amazes me how people on this site think they know more than the head coach and actually post statements that could hurt the coach's efforts. Telling recruits we do not want them, making fun of their names or ethnicity is counter productive.
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Amen. Recruits and their families/friends read these sites. Just ask Diamond Stone's/Wes Mathews'/Vander Blue's families about Wisconsin fan sites. I like to think that an MU education means something, but there are a few who go out of their way to prove otherwise.
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I'll let Wojo decide whom he offers and whom he doesn't. If Wojo offers Kostas and gets a commitment, then great. But Kostas is still raw and he is still a project at this point. Duane Wilson Sr. even called him "kind of raw" in the 247 article. The recruiting ranking is based on potential but I think that #21 is hyping him up a bit too much. That hype bothers me and people buying into the hype bother me. I'd like to see Kostas earn it; show some production like did Anthony Davis when he went from unranked to #1 in the course of a summer.
Kostas is the equivalent of a pitching prospect that throws 100 mph but has no control. Someone will take a chance on him developing into a star. If not a star, at least a solid prospect.
But the narrative that "He's blowing up! Marquette must get him! Get Kostas ASAP!" is not how I see things. Just trying to call a spade a spade. As it stands right now, Marquette is down to 1 spot for 2016 but I anticipate an oversign by 1. Odds are either someone transfers or HE goes pro. Kostas is definitely one of Wojo's options and it looks like Amir Coffey is a realistic one as well. Perhaps Kyle Washington as well. Is Kevin Huerter still an option or less of one given the recent commits? Any chance Wojo can land Cassius Winston? How about the big kid from Alabama that was offered? Plus I don't even know what other options Wojo has or will have in the future.
So there are 1-2 spots and a pool of at least 4-6 prospects to choose from. Kostas is in that pool but I wouldn't have him a for sure #1. Maybe Wojo does, I don't know. Will be interesting to see what happens.
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1. Coffey. 2. Kostas.
Ideally, I'd just take both and let the scholarship situation figure itself out.
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Good analysis. Thanks. I'm confident Wojo has a pecking order in mind and a realistic sense of who might actually sign. Still having trouble with my math.
As it stands now for '16-'17:
Seniors
Wally
JJJ
Big Fishy
Juniors
Duane
Sandy
Andrew
Sophomores
Matty
Haanif
HE
Sacar
Traci
Freshmen
Sam
Player to be named.
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Watched him two games last night in summer league. He is extremely raw, but very athletic. He put down some pretty impressive dunks off of euro-steps in transition that really reminded me of his brother. For most summer teams in the league, they seem to be working on getting their guys used to sets/plays, etc. Dominican seemed to just be just playing pick-up with Kostas doing mostly one-on-one isolation. Domincan was never really in their games versus Pius and Brook Central. My gut is that with the right coaching he has the tools to be nice D1 player by his junior year in college.
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Watched him two games last night in summer league. He is extremely raw, but very athletic. He put down some pretty impressive dunks off of euro-steps in transition that really reminded me of his brother. For most summer teams in the league, they seem to be working on getting their guys used to sets/plays, etc. Dominican seemed to just be just playing pick-up with Kostas doing mostly one-on-one isolation. Domincan was never really in their games versus Pius and Brook Central. My gut is that with the right coaching he has the tools to be nice D1 player by his junior year in college.
That really doesn't sound like Wojo's style of basketball. I think this why we haven't seen Kostas get an offer yet
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That really doesn't sound like Wojo's style of basketball. I think this why we haven't seen Kostas get an offer yet
I think it's more likely due to Kostas being raw. If Henry comes back, MU eyes a deep tourney run and Wojo needs a ready made player. If HE turns pro, it's even more important to have a ready made player to replace Henry. That's why I think Kyle Washington is a key target. I wouldn't read too much into the style of play in a summer league game.
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I think it's more likely due to Kostas being raw.
Maybe. I think it may the coaching/system also. If Kostas would be at Marquette High or Germantown this year, he would get much better competition and coaching in my opinion. That coach at Marq High got those kids to buy in and play hard. And even though Showwalter is gone, that Germantown team with senior leaders like McCloud at point and Max Keefe at forward/center look really disciplined and tough. Pair Keefe and Kostas together and that would give Sam Hauser and Co. a good run for their money.
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I really think it depends on where his brother is playing. He could be traded from the Bucks or the Bucks could move to another city. No need to offer him at this point, since he will follow his brother to whatever city he ends up in, if leaves Milwaukee. If his brother ends up staying in Milwaukee and there is not a scholarship available then he will either go to UWM or his brother will pay his way to go to MU.
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I really think it depends on where his brother is playing. He could be traded from the Bucks or the Bucks could move to another city. No need to offer him at this point, since he will follow his brother to whatever city he ends up in, if leaves Milwaukee. If his brother ends up staying in Milwaukee and there is not a scholarship available then he will either go to UWM or his brother will pay his way to go to MU.
The Bucks aren't trading Giannis.
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I really think it depends on where his brother is playing. He could be traded from the Bucks or the Bucks could move to another city. No need to offer him at this point, since he will follow his brother to whatever city he ends up in, if leaves Milwaukee. If his brother ends up staying in Milwaukee and there is not a scholarship available then he will either go to UWM or his brother will pay his way to go to MU.
you got just about every single thing in this post wrong.
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Yep......
you got just about every single thing in this post wrong.
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The Bucks aren't trading Giannis.
Hope not. He is really fun to watch. I love his smile and passion for the game -- he is having fun and it shows. Kostas seems to have that same kind of demeanor. Once he knocked down a guy through traffic and helped the guy up with a smile. Another time, a Pius kids looking to be about 6' 3" took the ball down the lane and was intending on slamming one down hard, Kostas came over, met him at the rim and stuffed him back (with no foul). The kid got up and Kostas game him a Mutumbo look and slapped him a high five for the effort. Nice to see kids having fun and being good sports. Loved seeing the Blackhawks/Lightning congratulate each other at the end of the playoffs last night as well.
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Loved seeing the Blackhawks/Lightning congratulate each other at the end of the playoffs last night as well.
It's something that is always done in hockey finals - no matter how hard fought the series was. I agree that it is really nice to see.
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@JBBauer612
Nike BBall Acad measurements for Kostas Antetokounmpo: 6'9.5" (in shoes), just 176 pounds. Lists as '17 but also has "old" last name. #mubb
7:43pm · 27 Jun 2015 · TweetDeck
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So, he's Bo Ellis' size ai na? Will Kostas be playin' in shoes?
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@JBBauer612
Nike BBall Acad measurements for Kostas Antetokounmpo: 6'9.5" (in shoes), just 176 pounds. Lists as '17 but also has "old" last name. #mubb
7:43pm · 27 Jun 2015 · TweetDeck
What does the part about his age mean? Implying that being foreign its easier to fudge his age? I've never heard that term.
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What does the part about his age mean? Implying that being foreign its easier to fudge his age? I've never heard that term.
A reference to his brother...?
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What does the part about his age mean? Implying that being foreign its easier to fudge his age? I've never heard that term.
Let me clarify.
In Nike's materials, they show him as being in the class of 2017 instead of 2016. Perhaps they were told he has made a decision to reclassify and therefore are using 2017. This would be, IMO, a good move for Kostas... and from an MU recruiting standpoint, would move him out of the 2016 class where we are currently low on "open" slots.
So the question is whether there is significance to the 2017 listing for Kostas, or if it's just an error in Nike's materials?
Lending additional reason to believe it may just be an error is that they also listed the last name he and his brothers used to go by. I don't know the backstory on it, but I do know they used to go by Adetokunbo and not Antetokounmpo...
...maybe Kostas still uses Adeokunbo and gave Nike that name and the 2017 class... maybe not...
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BeeJay,
Any truth to the rumor that he's Stone's half brother from Iceland, hey?
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(http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/bucks/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/566398875jm100_bwb.jpg?itok=EhonkJh3)
Giannis is participating right now in a NBA showcase in Africa and brought his brothers. Here's a pic of Kostas. I really don't know how you don't recruit this kid as hard as you can. He has a top 10 athleticism potential, a Milwaukee connection, and (from everything I can tell) a lineage of hard-working bball players. No reason to put him on a b-list as he will always be worthy of a spot at MU.
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Plus, he looks to be at least 8 ft. tall and still growin', ai na?
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Plus, he looks to be at least 8 ft. tall and still growin', ai na?
Definitely, Giannis is 6'11" and he's only 3/4 the size of Kostas in this photo.
I just think he is solid top 60 recruit. When did Marquette become so good that we can put a local recruit like that on the back burner llike some have mentioned earlier in the thread.
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Definitely, Giannis is 6'11" and he's only 3/4 the size of Kostas in this photo.
I just think he is solid top 60 recruit. When did Marquette become so good that we can put a local recruit like that on the back burner llike some have mentioned earlier in the thread.
When we have only one scholarship available and when Wojo seems to have prioritized others higher right now.
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Room seems to create itself when it is needed. If he does end up re-classing, I tend to think the odds he's at MU go down, if only because i'm not convinced his brother is in town for the long haul.
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Room seems to create itself when it is needed. If he does end up re-classing, I tend to think the odds he's at MU go down, if only because i'm not convinced his brother is in town for the long haul.
Where are people getting that Kostas will only stay in Milwaukee if Giannis is there? Also where is the thought that Giannis won't be there coming from? He only becomes a restricted free agent after the 2016-17 and I would assume already that the Bucks will be matching any offer he may receive. So even if you think they are a package deal I don't think Giannis is going anywhere during the time Kostas would be in college.
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Where are people getting that Kostas will only stay in Milwaukee if Giannis is there? Also where is the thought that Giannis won't be there coming from? He only becomes a restricted free agent after the 2016-17 and I would assume already that the Bucks will be matching any offer he may receive. So even if you think they are a package deal I don't think Giannis is going anywhere during the time Kostas would be in college.
Totally agree. Jason Kidd won't be dismantling or retooling the Bucks just as they move into the new building, he'll be adding supplemental pieces to make deep playoff runs built around the team that's taking shape now.
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Definitely, Giannis is 6'11" and he's only 3/4 the size of Kostas in this photo.
I just think he is solid top 60 recruit. When did Marquette become so good that we can put a local recruit like that on the back burner llike some have mentioned earlier in the thread.
Most top 60 guys start in high school, Kostas hasn't yet. He's incredibly talented physically, but all reports are that he's extremely raw - can't really play basketball yet - so he's not the sure fire thing people think him to be.
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Most top 60 guys start in high school, Kostas hasn't yet. He's incredibly talented physically, but all reports are that he's extremely raw - can't really play basketball yet - so he's not the sure fire thing people think him to be.
I haven't seen him, but sounds a little like Tokoto or Darius Miles. Would we take a Tokoto or Miles at a similar stage in their careers? I know I would.
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I haven't seen him, but sounds a little like Tokoto or Darius Miles. Would we take a Tokoto or Miles at a similar stage in their careers? I know I would.
I don't think Kostas is anywhere near where JPT was at this point.
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I haven't seen him, but sounds a little like Tokoto or Darius Miles. Would we take a Tokoto or Miles at a similar stage in their careers? I know I would.
Tokoto was miles ahead of him at this stage - no comparison really. I would say Tokoto didn't grow much as a basketball player while at UNC other than getting stronger. Was always a defensive stud who couldn't shoot that well.
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I don't think Kostas is anywhere near where JPT was at this point.
At this point wasn't JP a top 40 recruit? Kostas is also 6'9 while JP was 6'6. I think Jamil probably would be a better comparison with being taller and less aggressive. Though Wilson was also way more advanced.
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You are placing way too much emphasis on rankings. 247 has Kostas as the #21 player in the country. I don't think other services have him near that.
Jamil and JPT were considered legit, high major prospects from early on. Both were pretty dominant at the high school level in Wisconsin and had a wide range of basketball skills.
Everything I have heard about Kostas is that he is raw as hell. And as mentioned above, didn't even start on his high school team. My impression is that Wojo likes guys with a little more skill that he has shown at this point. Yeah his upside could be big....or he could be another Juan Anderson type who spends four years showing flashes in between times of us banging our heads on the wall.
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At this point wasn't JP a top 40 recruit? Kostas is also 6'9 while JP was 6'6. I think Jamil probably would be a better comparison with being taller and less aggressive. Though Wilson was also way more advanced.
At this point JPT may still have been a consensus top-5 recruit. He was really highly ranked and then fell quite a bit from the end of his junior year and throughout his senior year.
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If you are going to take a flier, take a flier on a tall, raw prospect.
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I just think he is solid top 60 recruit.
Wonder what your ranking is based on.
Kostas was in Greece instead of with PGE for the final evaluation period.. interesting? I don't know. Maybe there was good reason to be over there at that time?
Here's the thing with Kostas - I like him. Amazing potential. But it's 3-4 years away in my estimation. If he was a 2018... OK.
If anyone on here is opining without having watched him play several times over the past few months, please consider that you haven't seen him.
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Thanks for the comparisons between Tokoto and Kostas. I honestly didn't know. I never saw a second of Tokoto in HS, nor have I seen Kostas.
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I don't understand why it's an issue that he's not ready yet. Not all freshman are one and done's and not all freshman that go to high majors are asked to contribute their first year. If Kostas comes in as a 2016 recruit, our entire team will be back and he won't have to contribute. He could redshirt get a year under his belt with great coaching and weight training and then be better ready for his redshirt freshman year. If that happens, all of a sudden it seems like we got a steal. The kid is worthy of a scholarship IMO
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But you simply can't view it in a vacuum. Giving a scholarship to Kostas means that you can't give it to someone else. And right now MU only has one left for '16 - two if you think that HE goes pro next year. Wojo is in a position that he can be pretty selective at this point.
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Memphis offered him today. To think that he will go somewhere and redshirt of take a prep school year is just dumb. The kid has offers from plenty of high majors and I'm sure that at least one is offering playing time.
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Memphis offered him today. To think that he will go somewhere and redshirt of take a prep school year is just dumb. The kid has offers from plenty of high majors and I'm sure that at least one is offering playing time.
You do realize Kostas came off the bench last year, right? I mean, he couldn't even beat out Jake Bennett at Dominican. Jake Bennett! I want to know which HM's are offering playing time. LOL! Yes, Kostas has a lot of potential but that's all it is at this point. Right now he's closer to Trend Blackledge than Darius Miles.
I have no idea if Kostas will go to prep school or red-shirt. I just am not ready to put him on the same level as guys like Amir Coffey and Brendan Bailey. Look beyond the rankings. Look beyond Giannis. Kostas is very raw. He could be great someday...or a bust. Someone will take the gamble on him. I just am not sure if he's worth it right now for MU. Wojo may or may not agree with me. If Kostas develops I'll change my tune but I'm not that into him at this point.
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Memphis offered him today. To think that he will go somewhere and redshirt of take a prep school year is just dumb. The kid has offers from plenty of high majors and I'm sure that at least one is offering playing time.
That scholarship may not be worth the paper it's printed on. I don't expect Josh Pastner will still be there by the time Kostas would arrive.
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That scholarship may not be worth the paper it's printed on. I don't expect Josh Pastner will still be there by the time Kostas would arrive.
His contract is VERY interesting. Owns Memphis.
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His contract is VERY interesting. Owns Memphis.
If they fired him after this year, they'd owe him about $8M outright, isn't that correct? About $2.6M/year for (I think) three more seasons?
It'll be interesting to see if any of the Memphis alums are willing to pony up for that. With all the transfers out and recruiting misses, I have to imagine they are about ready to be rid of him. Still can't believe he got a fully guaranteed deal. Just senseless in this day and age.
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If they fired him after this year, they'd owe him about $8M outright, isn't that correct? About $2.6M/year for (I think) three more seasons?
It'll be interesting to see if any of the Memphis alums are willing to pony up for that. With all the transfers out and recruiting misses, I have to imagine they are about ready to be rid of him. Still can't believe he got a fully guaranteed deal. Just senseless in this day and age.
Too busy drinking wine to pull out the contract (which was WORK and MONEY to get.. believe me, (1) Tennessee laws are odd and (2) Memphis was not pleased with my reques), but I may at some point this weekend...