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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: dgies9156 on March 10, 2015, 01:34:21 PM
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OK, I gotta wonder what one Mr. Diamond Stone is thinking right now about what's happening at Marquette.
To any casual observer, Coach Wojo has engineered the beginnings of a dramatic turn-around. He's built a team that in two years can be competing on the last day of the college basketball season. If all goes well.
Mr. 70-miles-to-the-west has been out-recruited in the state and still runs a style of basketball that's less-suited to what Diamond does that we do. Plus, if he came to Milwaukee, he plays with Henry, Duane and Luke in a monster front line.
Mr. "I'm in the AAC" just lost out on the best point guard still left on the board to, uhhhummm, Marquette.
Pros of MU: Play with elite level talent; Play in front of people who mean something to me; Play in a major city with a large arena (and a new one coming); Play before supportive fans who never criticize their own; Play for a team-oriented program (knowing that Sam Perkins, Michael Jordan and James Worthy played in a team-oriented system and still did well in the Association).
Cons: New coach; I'd have to actually work in college on something other than basketball (sorry Bucky and Husky); I might have to share my minutes with other great players.
Conclusion: Call Coach Wojo and plead for that last schollie!
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Conclusion: Call Coach Wojo and plead for that last schollie!
Who says that hasn't happened already? Recruiting is a two way street
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if he qualifies, I thought it was #donedeal for UConn. any updates?
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Someone said the UCONN coach may be leaving. Sig him Wojo. Get Diamond!
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Just not gonna happen guys. Would love to be wrong, but he's named his final list and we are not on it. Wojo isn't recruiting him anymore and Diamond isn't considering us. Time to let it go.
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Diamond???
What do you think is going through Nick Noskowiak's mind?
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Just not gonna happen guys. Would love to be wrong, but he's named his final list and we are not on it. Wojo isn't recruiting him anymore and Diamond isn't considering us. Time to let it go.
Eagle, all I gotta say is you know things change. I suspect you are right but given what Coach Wojo is doing, things are shaping up pretty nicely.
I can hardly wait for a few years when Kentucky will be referred to as the Marquette of the south!
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Diamond???
What do you think is going through Nick Noskowiak's mind?
Whatever it is, he will probably tweet it. The Stone ship has sailed.
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Who says that hasn't happened already? Recruiting is a two way street
This.
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Whatever it is, he will probably tweet it. The Stone ship has sailed.
Then immediately deny it.
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wojo pretty much said thanks but no thanks to diamond.
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wojo pretty much said thanks but no thanks to diamond.
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/10pR6dUXHBpZSg/200.gif)
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Then immediately deny it.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuGOIJf.gif)
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Eagle, all I gotta say is you know things change. I suspect you are right but given what Coach Wojo is doing, things are shaping up pretty nicely.
I can hardly wait for a few years when Kentucky will be referred to as the Marquette of the south!
Absolutely can change, just don't see it here.
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The Stone ship has sailed.
Doesn't sound like something that will end up well. ;)
AND THIS IS MY POST #1977!!
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Doesn't sound like something that will end up well. ;)
AND THIS IS MY POST #1977!!
You'd be surprised
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Selma_%281919%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Selma_%281919%29)
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Not sure how Diamond fits into the swing offense. He's not a 3 point threat yet and is a back to the basket guy. I know diamond doesn't see himself that way but for now he is.
Guys like sitigsma and Evan Anderson were top 100 guys I believe and they struggled in the offense. Leuer, kaminsky, Bergerren thrived as stretch 5's.
He won't be a one and done on Bo's team.
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Play before supportive fans who never criticize their own;
Apparently you don't read Scoop much.
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Diamond???
What do you think is going through Nick Noskowiak's mind?
Right? Thinking the same thing. Plus, we make it sound like UW sucks on ice. While I dislike them greatly they are way better than MU at this point and much more stable at most positions. If Diamond picks either UCONN or UW I can't fault him.
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wojo pretty much said thanks but no thanks to diamond.
I gotta think that the Progress Toward Degree Rules have to factor into the decision.
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I'm still holding out for Diamond. Hope he wants to play college ball. And as mentioned, will not be a one-n-done in Bo's
offense.
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I'm still holding out for Diamond. Hope he wants to play college ball. And as mentioned, will not be a one-n-done in Bo's
offense.
Bluntly put-- Diamond Stone doesn't want to go to college. Probably can't pass ACT Test. Might take up Swaheeli , Basket Weaving, or how to swing a gold club at Wisconsin. Call it "Sour Grapes", or what you want. Will admit, might be a good kid, but his offense is way below par
to be a top grade player. I don't call Henry a 5-star either. Better basketball skills. If Stone was really skilled, Calipari would have had him in a heart beat. I say Stone will be a 3 year college player for whoever college that he can get in to.. Ellenson 3 or 4 years.
My opinion only.
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The Stone ship has sailed.
...will be my band's first album title.
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0% chance he comes.
Although I don't get why him and wojo don't try and make it happen. We'd be unstoppable.
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0% chance he comes.
Although I don't get why him and wojo don't try and make it happen. We'd be unstoppable.
Except for the potential post season ban. Remember UConn's post season before last year's title?
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I would guess if his academics are in order and he was interested we'd be interested. But doesn't look like we are talking.
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Not sure that Stone would be an asset for Marquette.
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Is it fair to say if his academics were in order he would be a commit by now (instead of undeclared)?
And, is it fair to say if the latest round of ACT/SAT testing, which was a month ago and the results were posted about two weeks ago, showed he did qualify, then the rumors that he was going to announce last week would have come true.
Point is it seems that as of right now it not about where he will go but if he can go.
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Hey TAMU Eagle----Why don't look farther down on that blog, I apologized for the remark and meant it.
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Hey TAMU Eagle----Why don't look farther down on that blog, I apologized for the remark and meant it.
I ignored the offensive part. I was referring to hire you think he's overatted one second and a must get the next
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Apparently you don't read Scoop much.
I was waiting to see how long it would take someone to catch that!
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Pros of MU: Play before HUNDREDS OF supportive fans who never criticize their own;
FIFY
(http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/325/files/2015/03/sir--850x560.jpg)
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Eh worst case scenario if he doesn't qualify, he goes plays overseas for a year, make a million bucks and blows out a knee next year. Worst case scenario if he qualifies, he blows out a knee and never makes it to the league.
If I'm a top 5 prospect, I would seriously consider going overseas for financial security. Would be an awesome experience too.
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FIFY
Actually, you just completely missed the joke.
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Actually, you just completely missed the joke.
Fair enough, but it's difficult to separate jokes from delusion.
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Fair enough, but it's difficult to separate jokes from delusion.
Like the delusion about UW's prohibitive academic standards?
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Like the delusion about UW's prohibitive academic standards?
Pretty sure UW-Madison's new football coach finally put that one to rest....
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#donedeal to UW?
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#donedeal to UW?
Who cares? More focused on Henry...not some guy who stopped considering MU months ago.
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Who cares? More focused on Henry...not some guy who MU stopped considering months ago.
Moved MU up two words.
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Grades are an issue, but there are ways around that at Wisconsin, look at the football team thru the years.
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Grades are an issue, but there are ways around that at Wisconsin, look at the football team thru the years.
Still has to meet NCAA minimums.
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#donedeal to UW?
Is he as much of a stone cold lock to UW as Sharma?
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Is he as much of a stone cold lock to UW as Sharma?
Nope, but remember I pulled back on Sharma before he committed. I also used one of those ?? things in asking my question about Diamond.
Do you think Crean is still having NBA and NFL teams use their hyperbaric chambers incorrectly?
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Nope, but remember I puled back on Sharma before he committed.
Nice try. You puled (sic) back on Sharma after it became common knowledge that you were wrong.
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Nope, but remember I pulled back on Sharma before he committed. I also used one of those ?? things in asking my question about Diamond.
Do you think Crean is still having NBA and NFL teams use their hyperbaric chambers incorrectly?
Your insiders are the best! They tell you someone is a stone cold lock to go to a school and then have you pull back on that. Guess it wasn't a stone cold lock after all! Keep listening to them! Maybe even ask them if hyperbaric chambers should be used for exercise biking for basketball players that play at low elevation!
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Nice try. You puled (sic) back on Sharma after it became common knowledge that you were wrong.
We know he always does that or wait was it Hoop.....
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Your insiders are the best! They tell you someone is a stone cold lock to go to a school and then have you pull back on that. Guess it wasn't a stone cold lock after all! Keep listening to them! Maybe even ask them if hyperbaric chambers should be used for exercise biking for basketball players that play at low elevation!
Sometimes they miss, though in all my years here I cannot recall ever weighing in that a player was going somewhere on the recruiting front other than that one. It's cool, life goes on. My sources have been great in other departments time and time and time again. I will keep listening to them, that's how I knew Mayo was gone, the crap Buzz was doing, etc, etc.
I hear Crean instructed the Phoenix Suns training experts on how to use their hyperbaric chamber...the same way he ran the MU training department. Aina?
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Sometimes they miss, though in all my years here I cannot recall ever weighing in that a player was going somewhere on the recruiting front other than that one. It's cool, life goes on. My sources have been great in other departments time and time and time again. I will keep listening to them, that's how I knew Mayo was gone, the crap Buzz was doing, etc, etc.
I hear Crean instructed the Phoenix Suns training experts on how to use their hyperbaric chamber...the same way he ran the MU training department. right?
Not sure. Maybe you can ask your people who told you to report Sharma as a stone cold lock to UW to all of us.
But it's okay, weeks before Sharma committed to Stanford you backed off of that statement. Congrats. Stone cold locks are typically things you end up backing out of. :D
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Not to mention that Mayo was actually back before he was gone.
Chicos is like Baghdad Bob. He says the same things over and over again even though they have been thoroughly debunked.
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Still has to meet NCAA minimums.
If he has not committed yet, I'll assume he has not qualified
Test Date Test Date Scores by Web and Mail
Feb. 7 ACT Feb. 23 Feb. 28
If he qualified at the Feb 7 test, he has known for more than two weeks and it's a fair bet he would have verbaled by now.
Here are his remaining test options
Mar. 14 SAT only Apr. 2 Apr. 11
Apr. 18 ACT May 4 May 9
May 2 SAT & SAT Subject May 21 May 30
June 6 SAT & SAT Subject June 25 July 4
June 13 ACT June 29 July 4
I'll assume he just took the SAT this past Saturday (or somebody with a "Diamond Stone" ID took it ... See Derek Rose) and if he passed, he's likely to announce in early to mid April. If not then, then he has still not qualified and he taking the test again in mid-April or early May meaning an announcement is not coming until this summer.
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Again, qualification is a two step process. It is a combination between your core GPA and your standardized test score. So even if he took the test back in February, he simply couldn't have "qualified" yet unless he has completed every class in his core GPA.
Furthermore I don't know why you would "assume" he would have verballed by now even if he is reasonably assured of qualifying. Maybe he already told Bo. Maybe he wants to tell everyone after his season is done.
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Not to mention that Mayo was actually back before he was gone.
Chicos is like Baghdad Bob. He says the same things over and over again even though they have been thoroughly debunked.
But in almost 17,000 posts, Sultan, you have never repeated yourself or been debunked. Right? Of course not...because...you are the Saltyone.
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Again, qualification is a two step process. It is a combination between your core GPA and your standardized test score. So even if he took the test back in February, he simply couldn't have "qualified" yet unless he has completed every class in his core GPA.
Furthermore I don't know why you would "assume" he would have verballed by now even if he is reasonably assured of qualifying. Maybe he already told Bo. Maybe he wants to tell everyone after his season is done.
He's a senior 60 days from graduation. He pretty much knows what his core GPA is going to be. So he knows what SAT/ACT target he needs to hit.
Sure he could be good and told Bo. Not sure what he gains by waiting. Yes now that the tourney is underway it makes some sense now, but if he has known his choice for months, why wait? This allows others to continue to recruit you ... unless you like grown men promising you things that cannot legally give you or telling what is in their own best interest pretending like it is in your best interest.
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Woelful said last week after talking to Bob, Diamond will be announcing shortly after his high school season wraps up.
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Could he be waiting to see who declares for the draft particularly at Kentucky but also maybe at Wisconsin (Decker) to gage what his role will be and his PT. I'm pretty sure that Diamond views himself as a one and done so what that one season looks like at his choices might have an effect on his decision. As long as he has waited this long might as well wait for that. Some programs will always make room for a top 5 center prospect regardless of when he commits.
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Woelful said last week after talking to Bob, Diamond will be announcing shortly after his high school season wraps up.
This is not the first time they have given an announcement date. In November they let their date pass without any comment.
Should be define what "shortly" means?
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Could he be waiting to see who declares for the draft particularly at Kentucky but also maybe at Wisconsin (Decker) to gage what his role will be and his PT. I'm pretty sure that Diamond views himself as a one and done so what that one season looks like at his choices might have an effect on his decision. As long as he has waited this long might as well wait for that. Some programs will always make room for a top 5 center prospect regardless of when he commits.
If he has to worry about PT at Bucky because Dekker might stay, he's not a one and done. One and dones don't worry who is at the school, they are walking in and taking over. See Jahill Okafor. See his buddy Kevon Looney
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Some random guy on Twitter from Madison said he's already told the schools and that he's committing to UW after the state tournament. Obviously it should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but that's the only thing I've seen so far about a possible choice.
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Some random guy on Twitter from Madison said he's already told the schools and that he's committing to UW after the state tournament. Obviously it should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but that's the only thing I've seen so far about a possible choice.
That's been the story for awhile. Even with the commitment I'll still be surprised if he makes it to campus.
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If he has to worry about PT at Bucky because Dekker might stay, he's not a one and done. One and dones don't worry who is at the school, they are walking in and taking over. See Jahill Okafor. See his buddy Kevon Looney
I wasn't thinking of his specific time on the court. I was thinking more about chances to win a National Championship next year etc. Or maybe if a ton of guys leave Kentucky and he feels he has a chance to be "featured" next year at what is the ultimate one and done school he goes there.
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That's been the story for awhile. Even with the commitment I'll still be surprised if he makes it to campus.
They'll find a way. Been saying it for a while now.
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Some random guy on Twitter from Madison said he's already told the schools and that he's committing to UW after the state tournament. Obviously it should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but that's the only thing I've seen so far about a possible choice.
And Diamond himself tweeted he was making his decision known on November 21, 2014. That day came and went without comment from him.
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It don't matter.
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Some random guy on Twitter
Stop right there.
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Could he be waiting to see who declares for the draft particularly at Kentucky but also maybe at Wisconsin (Decker) to gage what his role will be and his PT. I'm pretty sure that Diamond views himself as a one and done so what that one season looks like at his choices might have an effect on his decision. As long as he has waited this long might as well wait for that. Some programs will always make room for a top 5 center prospect regardless of when he commits.
He will be more NBA ready as a backup at Kentucky than as a starter most places.
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They'll find a way. Been saying it for a while now.
Right, it's not "magic".
When you have a kid of that skill level, you work with him to get him qualified.
UW (or any school for that matter) wouldn't work this hard with a kid who was ranked #500... obviously Diamond is different.
MU wouldn't have taken Wade as a partial qualifier unless the coaching staff saw a lot of raw ability.
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He will be more NBA ready as a backup at Kentucky than as a starter most places.
But Kentucky is not interested in him.
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Not to mention that Mayo was actually back before he was gone.
Chicos is like Baghdad Bob. He says the same things over and over again even though they have been thoroughly debunked.
Keefe and I both told you guys Mayo was gone even before Wojo was hired. Sorry you don't like it, but it came to pass. You can say he was "back", but you would be hiding behind the reality of what was happening.
Nothing debunked whatsoever.
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Some random guy on Twitter from Madison said he's already told the schools and that he's committing to UW after the state tournament. Obviously it should be taken with a huge grain of salt, but that's the only thing I've seen so far about a possible choice.
Same guy that tweeted that Shaka to MU was a donedeal. I'm not kidding.
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Keefe and I both told you guys Mayo was gone even before Wojo was hired. Sorry you don't like it, but it came to pass. You can say he was "back", but you would be hiding behind the reality of what was happening.
Nothing debunked whatsoever.
I happen to think you're 100% right about this. Why did Ners, who claimed to have been told first-hand what was going on, disagree with you?
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Same guy that tweeted that Shaka to MU was a donedeal. I'm not kidding.
Who?
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I wonder what the explanation is for Jaylen Brown, Malik Newman, Cheick Diallo, Ivan Rabb, Thon Maker, Stephen Zimmerman, Brandon Ingram and Caleb Swanigan not having committed. They must all be unable to qualify since they're top recruits who have not yet committed.
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I happen to think you're 100% right about this. Why did Ners, who claimed to have been told first-hand what was going on, disagree with you?
You would have to ask Ners....I would ask him why he was so upset that Monarch was canned, too. Or that our AD was trying to make the coaching staff adhere to pesky things in a big manual.
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Keefe and I both told you guys Mayo was gone even before Wojo was hired. Sorry you don't like it, but it came to pass. You can say he was "back", but you would be hiding behind the reality of what was happening.
Nothing debunked whatsoever.
People had been saying "Mayo is gone" here almost from the time he arrived.
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Who?
He's a UW clown and alumnus. No, not Chad Alvarez, but David Hookstead
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Same guy that tweeted that Shaka to MU was a donedeal. I'm not kidding.
I thought you don't do Twitter and teenage boy news.
Creep.
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Keefe and I both told you guys Mayo was gone even before Wojo was hired. Sorry you don't like it, but it came to pass. You can say he was "back", but you would be hiding behind the reality of what was happening.
Nothing debunked whatsoever.
Really? So Marquette brought him back for summer work outs, even though he was already "gone?" Did Marquette inform Todd of this decision? If so, why would Todd go through with it? If not, it is dishonest, and I hope my alma matter wouldn't engage in such activity.
The much more logical explanation is that both keefe and you misunderstood, or were given bad information about his status with the program, but Mayo did what Mayo does and got himself booted later on.
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I thought you don't do Twitter and teenage boy news.
Creep.
Lol.
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I wonder what the explanation is for Jaylen Brown, Malik Newman, Cheick Diallo, Ivan Rabb, Thon Maker, Stephen Zimmerman, Brandon Ingram and Caleb Swanigan not having committed. They must all be unable to qualify since they're top recruits who have not yet committed.
They all never set a fall date to announce and then let it slide without saying why they did not announce. Stone's action (setting a date) and then inaction (not announcing on that date) is why people think he is having problems qualifying.
Many of the others started this process with an intention of announcing in the spring. Not Stone.
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Really? So Marquette brought him back for summer work outs, even though he was already "gone?" Did Marquette inform Todd of this decision? If so, why would Todd go through with it? If not, it is dishonest, and I hope my alma matter wouldn't engage in such activity.
The much more logical explanation is that both keefe and you misunderstood, or were given bad information about his status with the program, but Mayo did what Mayo does and got himself booted later on.
Correct. Mayo was back but with a short leash. He messed up again and was gone
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Keefe and I both told you guys Mayo was gone even before Wojo was hired. Sorry you don't like it, but it came to pass. You can say he was "back", but you would be hiding behind the reality of what was happening.
Nothing debunked whatsoever.
I don't know about Keefe, but you saying Mayo was gone is a lie to the best of my recollection. You couched it your usual way, with maybes. Your usual MO, wiggle room on both sides.
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Correct. Mayo was back but with a short leash. He messed up again and was gone
Yep, that's what I was told as well. Mayo was given another chance by Wojo but was in Chicago with OJ when he was supposed to be here. Came back and had sticky fingers with items in the Al. An old roommate of mine worked check-ins at the Al and was specifically told Mayo wasn't allowed in the Al anymore.
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"Gone" from somebody with no credibility, while someone who has shown to be close to the current program concurs that Mayo was back with a short leash and blew his last chance. Hmmmm. Whom to believe?
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Nope, but remember I pulled back on Sharma before he committed. I also used one of those ?? things in asking my question about Diamond.
Do you think Crean is still having NBA and NFL teams use their hyperbaric chambers incorrectly?
Once you say something is a "stone cold lock", then "pulling back" or out or whatever you think you did later on when it becomes obvious he is going where you said he was a "stone cold lock", doesn't help you. You sure like repeating this "excuse", though. Sheesh.
Stone cold lock... with a key in the lock.. that can be turned by others.. yeah, that's it.
I SAID IT'S A DONE DEAL, STONE COLD LOCK, YES! but... I decided later that it wasn't. So it doesn't count.
OK, bahdee.
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BeeJay, with all due respect, pullin' out is a whole different deal, ai na?
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BeeJay, with all due respect, pullin' out is a whole different deal, ai na?
I wouldn't know about that, nahmsayin?
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I wouldn't know about that, nahmsayin?
Timing is everything.
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People had been saying "Mayo is gone" here almost from the time he arrived.
We said it when people said it was no longer the case and "he was back".
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Once you say something is a "stone cold lock", then "pulling back" or out or whatever you think you did later on when it becomes obvious he is going where you said he was a "stone cold lock", doesn't help you. You sure like repeating this "excuse", though. Sheesh.
Stone cold lock... with a key in the lock.. that can be turned by others.. yeah, that's it.
I SAID IT'S A DONE DEAL, STONE COLD LOCK, YES! but... I decided later that it wasn't. So it doesn't count.
OK, bahdee.
Guilty as charged, but I disagree with your flow. It's not like I said Shaka Smart is going to MU and it's a DONEDEAL and I'm not going to relinquish and crash and burn until the bitter end when it doesn't happen.
I had the info, went with it. Then, still weeks before his Sharma's announcement, got updated information and said it was no longer a lock. I shouldn't have said lock, that's fine. I corrected the information before it happened, long before it happened. I'll go to battle with my sources on MU every day of the week and then some.
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^^ yes... Stone cold lock was a poor claim / choice of words by you
The Shaka DoneDeal / I am the source was also pretty funny
Anyway, excited (in a non creepy way) to see what happens with a number of uncommitted great players
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Guilty as charged, but I disagree with your flow. It's not like I said Shaka Smart is going to MU and it's a DONEDEAL and I'm not going to relinquish and crash and burn until the bitter end when it doesn't happen.
I had the info, went with it. Then, still weeks before his Sharma's announcement, got updated information and said it was no longer a lock. I shouldn't have said lock, that's fine. I corrected the information before it happened, long before it happened. I'll go to battle with my sources on MU every day of the week and then some.
BS. You claimed "insider information" that guaranteed Sharma a lock for UW. After PUBLIC info was published on the board that Sharma was heading to Stanford you recanted. You make fun of IWB, but you did the same thing. Only difference was he owned it and you're still equivocating. You are simply unbelievable.
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We said it when people said it was no longer the case and "he was back".
Because he *was* back.
Look Chicos, you got bad info. It has been stated here by multiple people that Todd was given another chance by Wojo and he screwed up.
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BS. You claimed "insider information" that guaranteed Sharma a lock for UW. After PUBLIC info was published on the board that Sharma was heading to Stanford you recanted. You make fun of IWB, but you did the same thing. Only difference was he owned it and you're still equivocating. You are simply unbelievable.
This is pretty much why I don't post very much on the board. I'd guess many other stay away as well. Guys are constantly calling other guys out for passing along info they heard. Who's your source? You don't have a source. You're making this up. Who did you hear this from, your brother's roommate's friend's little sister? Guys going back, reworking timelines. Geezus. Chicos' timeline on Sharma was exactly as I had heard it -- he was a lock. All signs pointed that way. I know guys who talk daily with the UW staff -- they all thought he was a lock. Then he fell in love with Stanford and he changed his mind. UW was absolutely "blindsided" -- that is the word that was used. Big F'n deal. Chicos said Mayo was on the outs even while Wojo was seemingly welcoming him. I've got about 8 pretty good high-level sources of info for MU and WI bball. That isn't to be a c*ck measuring statement, it's just a fact. But reading stuff like this just makes me never want to share intel at all. I knew Noskowiak asked for his release the day it happened, but instead of sharing it here, I just shared it with the "under board" -- I PMed Sultan, Keefe and a few others. Then it happened two weeks later. If it wouldn't have happened, and I had shared it -- I'm a douche, I have no contacts, I'm lying. Who needs the headaches?
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This is pretty much why I don't post very much on the board. I'd guess many other stay away as well. Guys are constantly calling other guys out for passing along info they heard. Who's your source? You don't have a source. You're making this up. Who did you hear this from, your brother's roommate's friend's little sister? Guys going back, reworking timelines. Geezus. Chicos' timeline on Sharma was exactly as I had heard it -- he was a lock. All signs pointed that way. I know guys who talk daily with the UW staff -- they all thought he was a lock. Then he fell in love with Stanford and he changed his mind. UW was absolutely "blindsided" -- that is the word that was used. Big F'n deal. Chicos said Mayo was on the outs even while Wojo was seemingly welcoming him. I've got about 8 pretty good high-level sources of info for MU and WI bball. That isn't to be a c*ck measuring statement, it's just a fact. But reading stuff like this just makes me never want to share intel at all. I knew Noskowiak asked for his release the day it happened, but instead of sharing it here, I just shared it with the "under board" -- I PMed Sultan, Keefe and a few others. Then it happened two weeks later. If it wouldn't have happened, and I had shared it -- I'm a douche, I have no contacts, I'm lying. Who needs the headaches?
I think you made this all up. ;D
You've been rock solid.
JD, 50/50.
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I thought you don't do Twitter and teenage boy news.
Creep.
I do twitter, I don't follow minors.
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Really? So Marquette brought him back for summer work outs, even though he was already "gone?" Did Marquette inform Todd of this decision? If so, why would Todd go through with it? If not, it is dishonest, and I hope my alma matter wouldn't engage in such activity.
The much more logical explanation is that both keefe and you misunderstood, or were given bad information about his status with the program, but Mayo did what Mayo does and got himself booted later on.
My sources said he was gone, period...gone. My sources were dead on right. It was an absolute nonstarter for reasons I'm sure if you knew the backstory on you would agree.
Feel free to PM me if you wish. I'm guessing Keefe or someone else knows the same thing, but carry on if you wish. Sometimes things are done for show. Do you think Burton said he was going to transfer the day before he transfered? How about Dawson? Hmm, how come they were allowed to still be on the bench? NN asked for his release when? Why did we wait for several weeks to respond and pretend he was still in the fold? Perceptions are done for a reason.
I got zero bad info on this, it was dead on right. Absolutely DEAD NUTS RIGHT. Sorry you don't like it. I'm sure Lenny's contributions to the thread are amazing.
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Reading this thread is how you can tell it's the offseason.
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So has Diamond seen the light and he's coming to Marquette?
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This is pretty much why I don't post very much on the board. I'd guess many other stay away as well. Guys are constantly calling other guys out for passing along info they heard. Who's your source? You don't have a source. You're making this up. Who did you hear this from, your brother's roommate's friend's little sister? Guys going back, reworking timelines. Geezus. Chicos' timeline on Sharma was exactly as I had heard it -- he was a lock. All signs pointed that way. I know guys who talk daily with the UW staff -- they all thought he was a lock. Then he fell in love with Stanford and he changed his mind. UW was absolutely "blindsided" -- that is the word that was used. Big F'n deal. Chicos said Mayo was on the outs even while Wojo was seemingly welcoming him. I've got about 8 pretty good high-level sources of info for MU and WI bball. That isn't to be a c*ck measuring statement, it's just a fact. But reading stuff like this just makes me never want to share intel at all. I knew Noskowiak asked for his release the day it happened, but instead of sharing it here, I just shared it with the "under board" -- I PMed Sultan, Keefe and a few others. Then it happened two weeks later. If it wouldn't have happened, and I had shared it -- I'm a douche, I have no contacts, I'm lying. Who needs the headaches?
Yup on Sharma.
Yes on NN.
Etc.
I don't blame you for not posting those things, you are right it isn't worth it as people will just wind up in attack mode. Also, I apologize for getting into the pissing contest here. My bad.
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I do twitter, I don't follow minors.
So as long as an adult is tweeting about the minor it's all fair game, but if a minor tweets about himself you damn better not touch that.
This stuff just keeps getting better. Shift the boarders around as you see fit Chicos. This is your world and we're all just your puppets.
For the record I've never had a Twitter account and I don't plan on ever having one. I'm not important enough for anyone to give a damn when I'm sitting on the toilet, watching the tube, or eating Chipotle, and I couldn't give a damn about when important people are doing those things, minor or adult. But to pretend I'm a better person or less of a creep than someone who uses the resources provided to gain information on a high school basketball recruit who may be considering coming to Marquette or going to a rival school is just plain sad. Doesn't make anyone creepy or weird or crazy. In fact the minor is willingly putting that information out to the public (adults fall into that category). It's lets creepy than an adult interviewer probing a minor for information on his thought process going through the recruiting process.
I truly hope you've never found out about a recruit committing somewhere after the minor announced it in Twitter. Hank announced it on Twitter. To every adult in the world, Hank should still be considered uncommitted at this point because only pedophiles would look at his Tweets, and that's how he went public. Turns out we're all creeps people!
Absurd. There are some major issues here...
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This is pretty much why I don't post very much on the board. I'd guess many other stay away as well. Guys are constantly calling other guys out for passing along info they heard. Who's your source? You don't have a source. You're making this up. Who did you hear this from, your brother's roommate's friend's little sister? Guys going back, reworking timelines. Geezus. Chicos' timeline on Sharma was exactly as I had heard it -- he was a lock. All signs pointed that way. I know guys who talk daily with the UW staff -- they all thought he was a lock. Then he fell in love with Stanford and he changed his mind. UW was absolutely "blindsided" -- that is the word that was used. Big F'n deal. Chicos said Mayo was on the outs even while Wojo was seemingly welcoming him. I've got about 8 pretty good high-level sources of info for MU and WI bball. That isn't to be a c*ck measuring statement, it's just a fact. But reading stuff like this just makes me never want to share intel at all. I knew Noskowiak asked for his release the day it happened, but instead of sharing it here, I just shared it with the "under board" -- I PMed Sultan, Keefe and a few others. Then it happened two weeks later. If it wouldn't have happened, and I had shared it -- I'm a douche, I have no contacts, I'm lying. Who needs the headaches?
That's your perogative. You get good information and you can do with it what you want. To me when something is a "stone cold lock" there is no turning back and if it turns out wrong then I'm happy to admit (because it's what men do) that I was wrong. Chicos called it a stone cold lock that Sharma was going to UW. Sharma is signed with Stanford. He was wrong, no matter how he tries to spin it. And that's all he does...try to spin it. Rather than simply saying "Yup, my information was wrong." Not very hard to do if you ask me. But apparently to some it is. Usually I don't call things "stone cold locks" because I understand things change quickly. When I fuc stone cold lock statements, I don't brag about how right I was when I back down from those statements. The reality is he was very wrong and yet he turns it into "Look I was right I told you weeks before he committed to Stanford!" Uhh, no. You were wrong Chicos.
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So as long as an adult is tweeting about the minor it's all fair game, but if a minor tweets about himself you damn better not touch that.
This stuff just keeps getting better. Shift the boarders around as you see fit Chicos. This is your world and we're all just your puppets.
Except you would be wrong....again. If someone like Jeff Goodman or ESPN or recruiting experts send out a tweet that such and such has committed to a school. Fine. That's newsworthy and I see no issue in that. That is far different than following some 16 year old kid and following his every whim, who's he porking, how the chem test went, how he hopes Suzie Q's parents aren't home tonight, etc, etc. I don't get into that. I don't follow minors, but I am a college basketball fan so if someone in the industry or field says a guy has just announced or the rumor is that he is about to announce, I don't see any comparison to following the day to day activities of some 16 or 17 year old kid. That's my opinion, plenty of people totally disagree which is fine.
No goalposts moved, no borders changing, no special exceptions...just common sense. You're a smart guy Wade, I know you understand the difference. Your other stuff about pedofiles, etc, was a strawman special.
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That's your perogative. You get good information and you can do with it what you want. To me when something is a "stone cold lock" there is no turning back and if it turns out wrong then I'm happy to admit (because it's what men do) that I was wrong. Chicos called it a stone cold lock that Sharma was going to UW. Sharma is signed with Stanford. He was wrong, no matter how he tries to spin it. And that's all he does...try to spin it. Rather than simply saying "Yup, my information was wrong." Not very hard to do if you ask me. But apparently to some it is. Usually I don't call things "stone cold locks" because I understand things change quickly. When I fuc stone cold lock statements, I don't brag about how right I was when I back down from those statements. The reality is he was very wrong and yet he turns it into "Look I was right I told you weeks before he committed to Stanford!" Uhh, no. You were wrong Chicos.
I did admit I was wrong, and changed my position before it was announced by him. I went better than what you are even saying....admitted I was wrong and got it right before the decision was made. Not sure what else one can do.
Sure sounded like that's what you wrote. How about admit you are wrong (which I did) and put the correct information out there (which I did). Instead I should go to my grave with the wrong answer when I know the answer changed?
Uhm, ok. Sorry Wade, I was wrong....and I admitted it and I gave the new information. So be it.
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Except you would be wrong....again. If someone like Jeff Goodman or ESPN or recruiting experts send out a tweet that such and such has committed to a school. Fine. That's newsworthy and I see no issue in that. That is far different than following some 16 year old kid and following his every whim, who's he porking, how the chem test went, how he hopes Suzie Q's parents aren't home tonight, etc, etc. I don't get into that. I don't follow minors, but I am a college basketball fan so if someone in the industry or field says a guy has just announced or the rumor is that he is about to announce, I don't see any comparison to following the day to day activities of some 16 or 17 year old kid. That's my opinion, plenty of people totally disagree which is fine.
No goalposts moved, no borders changing, no special exceptions...just common sense. You're a smart guy Wade, I know you understand the difference. Your other stuff about pedofiles, etc, was a strawman special.
Maybe my memory is just hazy but I can't seem to remember a case of any posters here bringing up any quotes from a minor about "who's he porking, how the chem test went, how he hopes Suzie Q's parents aren't home tonight, etc, etc." All I've seen are Tweets about how a visit went, lists, commitments, etc. but I guess if it's not "someone in the field" then it's creepy. As long as someone's getting paid to "follow some 16 year old kid and following his every whim, who's he porking, how the chem test went, how he hopes Suzie Q's parents aren't home tonight, etc, etc." it's all good and we should follow that information like it's the Bible, but someone who supplies that information for free on a Marquette basketball board is a creep. Got it.
Again, continue to shift those boarders.
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Sword fights are boring boys, zip up and move on.
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This is pretty much why I don't post very much on the board. I'd guess many other stay away as well. Guys are constantly calling other guys out for passing along info they heard. Who's your source? You don't have a source. You're making this up. Who did you hear this from, your brother's roommate's friend's little sister? Guys going back, reworking timelines. Geezus. Chicos' timeline on Sharma was exactly as I had heard it -- he was a lock. All signs pointed that way. I know guys who talk daily with the UW staff -- they all thought he was a lock. Then he fell in love with Stanford and he changed his mind. UW was absolutely "blindsided" -- that is the word that was used. Big F'n deal. Chicos said Mayo was on the outs even while Wojo was seemingly welcoming him. I've got about 8 pretty good high-level sources of info for MU and WI bball. That isn't to be a c*ck measuring statement, it's just a fact. But reading stuff like this just makes me never want to share intel at all. I knew Noskowiak asked for his release the day it happened, but instead of sharing it here, I just shared it with the "under board" -- I PMed Sultan, Keefe and a few others. Then it happened two weeks later. If it wouldn't have happened, and I had shared it -- I'm a douche, I have no contacts, I'm lying. Who needs the headaches?
So, apparently I'm not one of your "under boarders," hey? Now, I'm pissed.
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I am lost on this thread. So what's the status of Diamond?
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I am lost on this thread. So what's the status of Diamond?
Damn it Fred! Stop putting this thread back on point!
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Damn it Fred! Stop putting this thread back on point!
It has reached the point that on a 5 page thread I will read page 1, skip pages 2-4, and see if there is anything solid on page 5.
Now, I am going off-topic, y'all sucked me into your vortex of doom . . .
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I think you made this all up. ;D
You've been rock solid.
JD, 50/50.
I hope people don't miss his point. He's "rock solid," but Chicos is "50/50." But, his information was exactly the same as Chicos' on this point. Freeport doesn't share his information on the board because it's too much of a headache. It's a sad state of affairs when the posters with "rock solid" information won't share it because if the inevitable crap that is thrown their way. And the number of such posters is growing. I don't blame them.
Fortunately, I don't know crap, so it's not a problem for me.
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Chicos, Freeport, Aircraft, Goose, Keefe, others.....love any and all attempts at sharing info. Even if it's speculative.
Don't let the board drag you down.
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Maybe my memory is just hazy but I can't seem to remember a case of any posters here bringing up any quotes from a minor about "who's he porking, how the chem test went, how he hopes Suzie Q's parents aren't home tonight, etc, etc." All I've seen are Tweets about how a visit went, lists, commitments, etc. but I guess if it's not "someone in the field" then it's creepy. As long as someone's getting paid to "follow some 16 year old kid and following his every whim, who's he porking, how the chem test went, how he hopes Suzie Q's parents aren't home tonight, etc, etc." it's all good and we should follow that information like it's the Bible, but someone who supplies that information for free on a Marquette basketball board is a creep. Got it.
Again, continue to shift those boarders.
Nice try again. Journalists, recruiting experts, etc, are paid to publish newsworthy information, like where the kid will go to school. Where is it that those people are following these kids every whim? How did you get to this conclusion? Did recruiting experts before social media still report on where kids were going to college? Of course they did. How is this possible? Oh, I don't know....things like talking to the high school coach, attending the press conference, etc, etc. They got all that information and shared it with their readers\viewers\listeners without following their every whim. Straw man....again.
Yes, your memory is fading. "Johnny said something cryptic on his twitter, what does it mean" threads have appeared here from time to time. Then the speculation about what his 128 character limited tweet could possibly mean and all the fun responses that go along with it. The entire NN thing was embarrassing.
Look, it's not for me. For others, they love it. Fine. Personally, following a 16 or 17 year old kid's daily social feed is creepy to me. For others, it isn't. To each their own.
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I am lost on this thread. So what's the status of Diamond?
Still working on that 17 on his ACT!
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Don't cha get 15 just for gettin' yo name correctly on the paper?
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how many diamond threads are we gonna do, he'll might as well start making Ben Simmons threads to cuz we have the same chance to get him and that is ZERO.
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A friend's son plays AAU ball with Stone and when asked if grades were possibly preventing his announcement/commitment his reply was a laugh along with "He doesn't "test" very well."
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Don't cha get 15 just for gettin' yo name correctly on the paper?
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A friend's son plays AAU ball with Stone and when asked if grades were possibly preventing his announcement/commitment his reply was a laugh along with "He doesn't "test" very well."
The recruiting process is not that fun. To many people offering you things they should not. To many handlers looking to get a piece of your pie.
What is fun is making your decision and letting the love from your new school come pouring in.
So I assume no one wants to put this process off. Yes, some do, like those they have not committed, but they said early on that was their goal. I assume they want to pick their school based on next year's roster which is why they are holding off.
But when you give a November date for your decision, and let it pass without comment, something is wrong. And it makes perfect sense that he cannot qualify.
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The recruiting process is not that fun. To many people offering you things they should not. To many handlers looking to get a piece of your pie.
What is fun is making your decision and letting the love from your new school come pouring in.
So I assume no one wants to put this process off. Yes, some do, like those they have not committed, but they said early on that was their goal. I assume they want to pick their school based on next year's roster which is why they are holding off.
But when you give a November date for your decision, and let it pass without comment, something is wrong. And it makes perfect sense that he cannot qualify.
It's all about maximizing the profit, ai'na?
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A friend's son plays AAU ball with Stone and when asked if grades were possibly preventing his announcement/commitment his reply was a laugh along with "He doesn't "test" very well."
So according to your friends son, it's a #DoneDeal that Diamond cannot test well?
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This is pretty much why I don't post very much on the board. I'd guess many other stay away as well. Guys are constantly calling other guys out for passing along info they heard. Who's your source? You don't have a source. You're making this up. Who did you hear this from, your brother's roommate's friend's little sister? Guys going back, reworking timelines. Geezus. Chicos' timeline on Sharma was exactly as I had heard it -- he was a lock. All signs pointed that way. I know guys who talk daily with the UW staff -- they all thought he was a lock. Then he fell in love with Stanford and he changed his mind. UW was absolutely "blindsided" -- that is the word that was used. Big F'n deal. Chicos said Mayo was on the outs even while Wojo was seemingly welcoming him. I've got about 8 pretty good high-level sources of info for MU and WI bball. That isn't to be a c*ck measuring statement, it's just a fact. But reading stuff like this just makes me never want to share intel at all. I knew Noskowiak asked for his release the day it happened, but instead of sharing it here, I just shared it with the "under board" -- I PMed Sultan, Keefe and a few others. Then it happened two weeks later. If it wouldn't have happened, and I had shared it -- I'm a douche, I have no contacts, I'm lying. Who needs the headaches?
As far as I'm concerned you're E F Hutton. When Freeport Warrior talks, LittleWade listens.
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So has Diamond seen the light and he's coming to Marquette?
I'm sure that he has seen the light, but the light is that he's not wanted. As we've seen with Sacar and Traci when Wojo wants you, you and everyone else who's paying attention knows.
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Chit Murray, you are old. E F Hutton hasn't been in business since the mid 80's, hey?
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I hope people don't miss his point. He's "rock solid," but Chicos is "50/50." But, his information was exactly the same as Chicos' on this point. Freeport doesn't share his information on the board because it's too much of a headache. It's a sad state of affairs when the posters with "rock solid" information won't share it because if the inevitable crap that is thrown their way. And the number of such posters is growing. I don't blame them.
Fortunately, I don't know crap, so it's not a problem for me.
I don't think we want to get into comparing Freeport and Chicos. No comparison. I take Freeport's posts as gospel (sure, there is the chance someone could change his mind after Freeport gets his info).
Chicos is just looking to argue about anything, anytime. He's condescending to those who don't think like he does, and like a child, always needs to get in the last word. THAT is the reason he is hassled for things like "stone-cold lock". It's not because his info was wrong.
I think almost to a man here on this board, we appreciate when posters want to share their info. I, and I believe most others here, don't need a source named when info is given.
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Chit Murray, you are old. E F Hutton hasn't been in business since the mid 80's, hey?
Well, I did used to call Al, "son". He was fine with it once I put him in my will.
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I don't think we want to get into comparing Freeport and Chicos. No comparison. I take Freeport's posts as gospel (sure, there is the chance someone could change his mind after Freeport gets his info).
Chicos is just looking to argue about anything, anytime. He's condescending to those who don't think like he does, and like a child, always needs to get in the last word. THAT is the reason he is hassled for things like "stone-cold lock". It's not because his info was wrong.
I think almost to a man here on this board, we appreciate when posters want to share their info. I, and I believe most others here, don't need a source named when info is given.
+ a billion. People who bring real information (like Freeport) are invaluable and much appreciated. People who piggyback other's info and then write countless (and usually inaccurate) posts congratulating themselves about it? Not so much.
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I don't think we want to get into comparing Freeport and Chicos. No comparison. I take Freeport's posts as gospel (sure, there is the chance someone could change his mind after Freeport gets his info).
Chicos is just looking to argue about anything, anytime. He's condescending to those who don't think like he does, and like a child, always needs to get in the last word. THAT is the reason he is hassled for things like "stone-cold lock". It's not because his info was wrong.
I think almost to a man here on this board, we appreciate when posters want to share their info. I, and I believe most others here, don't need a source named when info is given.
Look at the Mayo thing. Chicos was given bad information...or Marquette simply changed its mind on whether or not he could return.
But instead of acknowledging that, Chicos still claims he was right. Even though Todd came back AFTER Chicos said he wouldn't, only to be booted later.
Really all Chicos had to do is acknowledge that, for whatever reason, Marquette decided to give him once more chance. He simply loses credibility otherwise.
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The recruiting process is not that fun. To many people offering you things they should not. To many handlers looking to get a piece of your pie.
What is fun is making your decision and letting the love from your new school come pouring in.
So I assume no one wants to put this process off. Yes, some do, like those they have not committed, but they said early on that was their goal. I assume they want to pick their school based on next year's roster which is why they are holding off.
But when you give a November date for your decision, and let it pass without comment, something is wrong. And it makes perfect sense that he cannot qualify.
Bolded 1: No one wants to, except those who do. Yep.
Bolded 2: There's a lot of hearsay and speculation in this thread, but this is frequently repeated and is just incorrect. http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2014/11/5/7163355/diamond-stone-decision-date-father-uconn-wisconsin Bob Stone was saying before that date it might not be the date. The Stones have played this pretty close to the vest, and this is one of the only bits of tangible info that has ever really come out.
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Bolded 1: No one wants to, except those who do. Yep.
Bolded 2: There's a lot of hearsay and speculation in this thread, but this is frequently repeated and is just incorrect. http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2014/11/5/7163355/diamond-stone-decision-date-father-uconn-wisconsin Bob Stone was saying before that date it might not be the date. The Stones have played this pretty close to the vest, and this is one of the only bits of tangible info that has ever really come out.
He can't get a passing grade on his ACT. It's as simple as that.
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Except you would be wrong....again. If someone like Jeff Goodman or ESPN or recruiting experts send out a tweet that such and such has committed to a school. Fine. That's newsworthy and I see no issue in that. That is far different than following some 16 year old kid and following his every whim, who's he porking, how the chem test went, how he hopes Suzie Q's parents aren't home tonight, etc, etc. I don't get into that. I don't follow minors, but I am a college basketball fan so if someone in the industry or field says a guy has just announced or the rumor is that he is about to announce, I don't see any comparison to following the day to day activities of some 16 or 17 year old kid. That's my opinion, plenty of people totally disagree which is fine.
No goalposts moved, no borders changing, no special exceptions...just common sense. You're a smart guy Wade, I know you understand the difference. Your other stuff about pedofiles, etc, was a strawman special.
I don't "follow" the 16 year olds on twitter either. Not because I think it's creepy, but because I just don't care. However, if Goodman or any other recruiting source retweets one of the minors' tweets, that I will acknowledge. Does that fit in your paradigm?
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Chit Murray, you are old. E F Hutton hasn't been in business since the mid 80's, hey?
They eaaarrrrrnnnn it.
Who could forget those commercials?
I think EF's grandson & others tried to revive the company a few years ago. Not sure how it is going..
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He can't get a passing grade on his ACT. It's as simple as that.
For NCAA purposes, there is no such thing as a passing grade on the ACT. What NCAA looks at is a sliding scale combination of both the ACT and GPA (and there is a minimum GPA as well, which is scheduled to increase next year).
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They eaaarrrrrnnnn it.
Who could forget those commercials?
I think EF's grandson & others tried to revive the company a few years ago. Not sure how it is going..
I think that you're getting E F Hutton confused with Smith Barney which did the commercial with John Houseman delivering that line.
E F Hutton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX7ZEotoFh0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX7ZEotoFh0)
Smith Barney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAMRXqQXemU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAMRXqQXemU)
"Good investments don't walk up, bite you on the bottom...."
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They eaaarrrrrnnnn it.
Who could forget those commercials?
Apparently you did.
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Apparently you did.
Guys give him a break, Texas Southern made the tourney
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I think that you're getting E F Hutton confused with Smith Barney which did the commercial with John Houseman delivering that line.
E F Hutton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX7ZEotoFh0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX7ZEotoFh0)
Smith Barney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAMRXqQXemU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAMRXqQXemU)
"Good investments don't walk up, bite you on the bottom...."
He did.
EF Hutton was the one where everyone would drop what they were doing to listen to what EF Hutton had to say.
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For NCAA purposes, there is no such thing as a passing grade on the ACT. What NCAA looks at is a sliding scale combination of both the ACT and GPA (and there is a minimum GPA as well, which is scheduled to increase next year).
Right. And Stone needs an 18 to become eligible to play. He hasn't done that yet.
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Right. And Stone needs an 18 to become eligible to play. He hasn't done that yet.
And how exaxtly do you know Diamond has a 2.50-2.60 GPA?
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And how exactly do you know Diamond has a 2.50-2.60 GPA?
Doesn't everyone struggling to qualify have a 2.50 to 2.60 GPA?
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Min on core-courses is 2.00 gpa I do believe.. for another year. Then we move to 2.30.
I will check with my TD E*Trade broker on Thursday. He knows these things well. We're getting together Thursday when the Rolling Stones put out their tour schedule. I love Paul McCartney!
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Look at the Mayo thing. Chicos was given bad information...or Marquette simply changed its mind on whether or not he could return.
But instead of acknowledging that, Chicos still claims he was right. Even though Todd came back AFTER Chicos said he wouldn't, only to be booted later.
Really all Chicos had to do is acknowledge that, for whatever reason, Marquette decided to give him once more chance. He simply loses credibility otherwise.
So you want me to lie and state things that did not happen? Uhm, ok. Sorry, not going to do it. Mayo was GONE. You can PM me if you wish, I've already given you the invite....you just haven't taken it.
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Mark Miller
@WisBBYearbook
Sources close to the situation believe Diamond Stone is close to a decision. Perhaps later this month. Maryland and Wisconsin in the lead.
I guess he got what he needed
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I don't "follow" the 16 year olds on twitter either. Not because I think it's creepy, but because I just don't care. However, if Goodman or any other recruiting source retweets one of the minors' tweets, that I will acknowledge. Does that fit in your paradigm?
I expect them to filter the nonsense and not retweet anything that gets people here and elsewhere all spun up. "Today sucked".....oh noes, Bobby Superstar said "today sucked" so he's surely not coming to MU any longer. That kind of thing. It's beyond ridiculous. So I don't worry about that stuff happening from a reporter unless it's newsworthy. The speculation game and trying to figure out or even care (to your point) what some 16 year old kid is doing and tracking them is part of the problem so many of these guys have heads the size of hotels and all too many believe they should be worshiped.
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I expect them to filter the nonsense and not retweet anything that gets people here and elsewhere all spun up. "Today sucked".....oh noes, Bobby Superstar said "today sucked" so he's surely not coming to MU any longer. That kind of thing. It's beyond ridiculous. So I don't worry about that stuff happening from a reporter unless it's newsworthy. The speculation game and trying to figure out or even care (to your point) what some 16 year old kid is doing and tracking them is part of the problem so many of these guys have heads the size of hotels and all too many believe they should be worshiped.
That's totally fair.
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I expect them to filter the nonsense and not retweet anything that gets people here and elsewhere all spun up. "Today sucked".....oh noes, Bobby Superstar said "today sucked" so he's surely not coming to MU any longer. That kind of thing. It's beyond ridiculous. So I don't worry about that stuff happening from a reporter unless it's newsworthy. The speculation game and trying to figure out or even care (to your point) what some 16 year old kid is doing and tracking them is part of the problem so many of these guys have heads the size of hotels and all too many believe they should be worshiped.
That's been going on long before Twitter came around.
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Mark Miller
@WisBBYearbook
Sources close to the situation believe Diamond Stone is close to a decision. Perhaps later this month. Maryland and Wisconsin in the lead.
I guess he got what he needed
Like I said, they will find a way.
Having said that, Stone has been "close to a decision" about 4 times already.
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Like I said, they will find a way.
Having said that, Stone has been "close to a decision" about 4 times already.
So which is it? He needs an 18 because it's cut and dried and that's the explanation for why he hasn't chosen? Or those immoral cheaters at Wisconsin and Maryland will find a way regardless of his grades/scores so he's not waiting on an ACT, but he's yet to decide? Your post seems to want to imply both.
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So you want me to lie and state things that did not happen? Uhm, ok. Sorry, not going to do it. Mayo was GONE. You can PM me if you wish, I've already given you the invite....you just haven't taken it.
The Sultan obviously does not have the time to PM ;)
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So which is it? He needs an 18 because it's cut and dried and that's the explanation for why he hasn't chosen? Or those immoral cheaters at Wisconsin and Maryland will find a way regardless of his grades/scores so he's not waiting on an ACT, but he's yet to decide? Your post seems to want to imply both.
Believe me, they always find a way.
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Believe me, they always find a way.
So he's yet to decide and all the talk about the delays being related to grades/scores and the date coming and going are off base. Got it.
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So he's yet to decide and all the talk about the delays being related to grades/scores and the date coming and going are off base. Got it.
Someone seems a little scared about their team next year. Gonna be much different without Gasser, Frank and Dekker next year huh? Better hope and pray Diamond is coming to the Vadgers.
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Mark Miller
@WisBBYearbook
Sources close to the situation believe Diamond Stone is close to a decision. Perhaps later this month. Maryland and Wisconsin in the lead.
I guess he got what he needed
He also thought he had what he needed on November 5 too ...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44640.msg682413#msg682413
And this was tweeted November 5...
@Diamond_Stone33 November 21st I will make my college decision
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Two facts ... I'll let you draw a conclusion, if one exists.
March 1 Tweet:
@Diamond_Stone33 · Mar 1 Everything Happens For A Reason
ACT Testing Dates
February 7 ... scores will be received by February 28.
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So the dude is commitin' to the University of Italy, hey?
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So the dude is commitin' to the University of Italy, hey?
Università di Roma
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Someone seems a little scared about their team next year. Gonna be much different without Gasser, Frank and Dekker next year huh? Better hope and pray Diamond is coming to the Vadgers.
Badgers will be just fine next year.
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So the dude is commitin' to the University of Italy, hey?
I hear that if you dig a hole deep enough, it'll take you all the way to China.
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looks like we have an open scholly now...
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Yes we do have an opening now for Mr. stone. Get him Wojo!
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Yes we do have an opening now for Mr. stone. Get him Wojo!
The way things are going, we need an atomic calculator to keep track of our open scholarships.
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I don''t have a problem with Steve quitting. We need dominant players who can make bunnies and shoot threes. Coach Wojo is doing an incredible recruitingv and should continue to load the team with dominant players at all five positions.
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Diamond confirmed his final four in a post-game interview after Dominican won the Championship today:
Wisco, UConn, MD and Okla St.
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Diamond confirmed his final four in a post-game interview after Dominican won the Championship today:
Wisco, UConn, MD and Okla St.
Go get em Woj, I'm really a badger fan?
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We have room. Marquette is a more expensive degree. There's still time to join MU and be with friends and family.
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We have room. Marquette is a more expensive degree. There's still time to join MU and be with friends and family.
There is no mutual interest. It isn't happening.
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Diamond confirmed his final four in a post-game interview after Dominican won the Championship today:
Wisco, UConn, MD and Okla St.
But did he share his ACT score?
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Diamond confirmed his final four in a post-game interview after Dominican won the Championship today:
Wisco, UConn, MD and Okla St.
Surprised he didn't mention Guangdong Southern Tigers ?-(
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But did he share his ACT score?
That is one of his Final 5.
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He was a man among boys today. A beast. The Bucks Alphabet's bro is going to be good too. A 6-7 junior bean pole with great touch.
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It's getting crazy out there... (attached).
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It's getting crazy out there... (attached).
Hah looks like that was taken down...
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Hah looks like that was taken down...
#donedeal!
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Hearing from a buddy who is a HS AD that Diamond was accepted to UW yesterday and will be committing there. Granted... I don't know how much I believe him, but it's bound to happen that he ends up there anyways.
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Far out, admitted on a Saturday, don't ya know. Musta just been waitin' on another championship, hey? For the record, I think he ends up in Madison also.
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Far out, admitted on a Saturday, don't ya know.
Touché... I clearly didn't vet my source well enough!
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Marquette is the best place for him.
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Marquette is the best place for him.
At some point you just have to accept it ain't happening
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Guys, someone, anyone... I am new on here... How do I post an image? I apparently can't just copy and paste the image from a google image search... help! please... I know this is about diamond stone, but come one. Please
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Far out, admitted on a Saturday, don't ya know. Musta just been waitin' on another championship, hey? For the record, I think he ends up in Madison also.
I agree he also ends up in Madison ... but admitted on a Saturday (as noted) the week before Spring break?
Must have been someone in admissions rushing to finish their "to do list" before the roadtrip to Ft. Lauderdale.
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Guys, someone, anyone... I am new on here... How do I post an image? I apparently can't just copy and paste the image from a google image search... help! please... I know this is about diamond stone, but come one. Please
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/sonicfanchara/images/7/74/HA_HA_-NELSON_SIMPSONS.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140408010018)
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(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/sonicfanchara/images/7/74/HA_HA_-NELSON_SIMPSONS.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140408010018)
haha son of a bitch
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On the reply page (not quick reply), hit the "Insert Image" button and paste the url in between.
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Dude thats huge thanks!
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Marquette is the best place for him.
(http://shareseeker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bruh.jpg)
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Understand, he can't qualify for Marquette.
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Marquette is the best place for him.
As a student, no.
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(http://shareseeker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bruh.jpg)
This is so less funny because of all the hoops you had to jump through to post it.
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(http://shareseeker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bruh.jpg)
I see you and raise you double..
(http://shareseeker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bruh.jpg)
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Understand, he can't qualify for Marquette.
I'm guessing you loved the comments by UW fans on their board when Henry committed to MU - cuz you sound just like 'em.
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I love Marquette!
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Why is there 190 responses to kid that is either going to Maryland or Wisconsin, he is not coming to MU.
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Why is there 190 responses to kid that is either going to Maryland or Wisconsin, he is not coming to MU.
You first
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Nothing counts until ee hear from Diamond.
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Nothing counts until ee hear from Diamond.
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Tweet from mark miller 1 minute ago:
@WisBBYearbook: Appears Diamond Stone is leaning toward joining late Greg Dandridge, Andy Kowske, Ray Nixon as Dominican grads to accept scholarship to WI.
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Are you sure Ray Nixon was from Dominican?
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Are you sure Ray Nixon was from Dominican?
Yup.
http://journaltimes.com/sports/ap-all-state-team/article_145bdbde-0db9-5f2e-84f0-7714f135977d.html
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Tweet from mark miller 1 minute ago:
@WisBBYearbook: Appears Diamond Stone is leaning toward joining late Greg Dandridge, Andy Kowske, Ray Nixon as Dominican grads to accept scholarship to WI.
"Appears" and "leaning." Requisite words in drafting the greatest hedge of all time.
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I can't wait for the next UW fan to pontificate about their academic standards.
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I can't wait for the next UW fan to pontificate about their academic standards.
Do you know any particulars about Diamond's academics?
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Tweet from mark miller 1 minute ago:
@WisBBYearbook: Appears Diamond Stone is leaning toward joining late Greg Dandridge, Andy Kowske, Ray Nixon as Dominican grads to accept scholarship to WI.
During a summer league championship game 19 years ago, I went up a little soft on a lay-up and Kowske swatted the ball 80 feet out of bounds. I wanted to crawl into a hole.
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"Appears" and "leaning." Requisite words in drafting the greatest hedge of all time.
It's the Chicos guarantee. Say something is going to happen but that it might not, then if it does happen down the road come back and say, "I've been telling you for months...!" If it's not going to happen, read social media blowing up on it, come back and say "This is what's happening with such and such!" and 10 minutes later it's official and he comes back and pats his back about it.
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It's the Chicos guarantee. Say something is going to happen but that it might not, then if it does happen down the road come back and say, "I've been telling you for months...!" If it's not going to happen, read social media blowing up on it, come back and say "This is what's happening with such and such!" and 10 minutes later it's official and he comes back and pats his back about it.
Except Mark Miller doesn't have a history of doing that.
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Except Mark Miller doesn't have a history of doing that.
Right. I'm just saying it's how Chicos guarantees things. Except for the Stone Cold Lock that was Sharma to UW...
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It's the Chicos guarantee. Say something is going to happen but that it might not, then if it does happen down the road come back and say, "I've been telling you for months...!" If it's not going to happen, read social media blowing up on it, come back and say "This is what's happening with such and such!" and 10 minutes later it's official and he comes back and pats his back about it.
I am unhappy to report that WI is all I have been hearing during the last month. No mention of anything else other than "I heard he qualified" from everyone and his brother. If he joins them, they are going to be pretty tough next year even without Dekker coming back. They have a kid who is redshirting — Happ — who by all accounts has been killing it in practice against their first team. With Koenig and Hayes (would love to see him leave early), that is a nice line-up. I am still hoping for a UConn or Maryland miracle. Anywhere but UW.
During a summer league championship game 19 years ago, I went up a little soft on a lay-up and Kowske swatted the ball 80 feet out of bounds. I wanted to crawl into a hole.
That made me LOL. Kowske is one of the nicest guys around (other than being a Badger). A few years ago, I was in the Wrigley bleachers with him and a few others. We were just drinking beers during batting practice and some Cub launches one to left field. Kowske keeps his beer in one hand and bare hands the home run like a Venus fly trap and throws it back on to the field like nothing happened. (Yes, Warriors and Badgers can get along.)
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I hope Diamond goes to UW so Luke and Henry can woop his ass down in the post.
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Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247 1h1 hour ago
I'm hearing pro Wisconsin info also MT @Evan_Flood: #Bolts 5-star center Diamond Stone leaning towards the #Badgers? http://bit.ly/1CmmAXA
Stone Leaning Towards Wisconsin?
Evan Flood - 99 minutes ago 27
Wisconsin Newsletter
According to Mark Miller of the Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook, five-star center Diamond Stone could be leaning towards the Badgers.
Appears Diamond Stone is leaning toward joining late Greg Danridge, Andy Kowske, Ray Nixon as Dominican grads to accept scholarship to WI.
— Mark Miller (@WisBBYearbook) March 24, 2015
Stone has been believed to be down to Maryland and Wisconsin, who make up half of his finalists with Oklahoma State and UConn rounding out the group.
The Badgers have 65 percent of the 247sports crystal ball predictions for Stone, who checks in as the nation's fifth ranked player per the 247sports composite player rankings.
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Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247 1h1 hour ago
I'm hearing pro Wisconsin info also MT @Evan_Flood: #Bolts 5-star center Diamond Stone leaning towards the #Badgers? http://bit.ly/1CmmAXA
Stone Leaning Towards Wisconsin?
Evan Flood - 99 minutes ago 27
Wisconsin Newsletter
According to Mark Miller of the Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook, five-star center Diamond Stone could be leaning towards the Badgers.
Appears Diamond Stone is leaning toward joining late Greg Danridge, Andy Kowske, Ray Nixon as Dominican grads to accept scholarship to WI.
— Mark Miller (@WisBBYearbook) March 24, 2015
Stone has been believed to be down to Maryland and Wisconsin, who make up half of his finalists with Oklahoma State and UConn rounding out the group.
The Badgers have 65 percent of the 247sports crystal ball predictions for Stone, who checks in as the nation's fifth ranked player per the 247sports composite player rankings.
The twitter echo chamber at work!
How long until we get donedeal!
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Redshirt?
I don't see the appeal. Kentucky, Duke, UConn, sure. Why Madison?
Help me understand.
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Redshirt?
I don't see the appeal. Kentucky, Duke, UConn, sure. Why Madison?
Help me understand.
Close to home, going to a school with a tremendous amount of success over the last 15 years including two of the most dominant years in their programs history (this and last season). He could do worse.
Disclaimer: I have utter disdain for the Badgers, but let's not kid ourselves. They're a great basketball program under Bo.
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Redshirt?
I don't see the appeal. Kentucky, Duke, UConn, sure. Why Madison?
Help me understand.
Whats the appeal to Marquette. Campus? average. Campus surroundings? city school. Education? Jesuit education compared to State School. Facilities? Basketball great
I have always wondered the allure to MU, give credit to majority of coaches getting kids to MU. In my mind not an easy sell, weather? That is an issue. But as Wojo says, "I think we play
ball indoors!" The biggest selling point for a coach is huge budget and an airplane and any time, that really helps the coach.
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Close to home, going to a school with a tremendous amount of success over the last 15 years including two of the most dominant years in their programs history (this and last season). He could do worse.
Disclaimer: I have utter disdain for the Badgers, but let's not kid ourselves. They're a great basketball program under Bo.
Obviously there's no denying the program's success, but I don't think questioning its fit for a 1 and done type player is out of line.
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Close to home, going to a school with a tremendous amount of success over the last 15 years including two of the most dominant years in their programs history (this and last season). He could do worse.
Disclaimer: I have utter disdain for the Badgers, but let's not kid ourselves. They're a great basketball program under Bo.
Diamond is a perfect fit to take over for Kaminsky, with Hayes, Happ and Koenig next year (Showalter), they will be pretty good. Maybe even Decker, Frank stayed 4 years. Take a kid to the student union in summer and you can see why kids go to school there!
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BC Hoopster, you have earned an "ignor" for your negative Marquette comments. Good bye.
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I can't wait for the next UW fan to pontificate about their academic standards.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/03/24/march-madness-top-courts-but-wisconsin-badgers-bottom-graduation-rates/I8LIg6FKwrz1nK250NKaJJ/story.html
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/03/24/march-madness-top-courts-but-wisconsin-badgers-bottom-graduation-rates/I8LIg6FKwrz1nK250NKaJJ/story.html
Diamond to Marquette
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/03/24/march-madness-top-courts-but-wisconsin-badgers-bottom-graduation-rates/I8LIg6FKwrz1nK250NKaJJ/story.html
The data in that article was debunked earlier in this very thread.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
As ever, you're a fooking clown.
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Diamond is a perfect fit to take over for Kaminsky, with Hayes, Happ and Koenig next year (Showalter), they will be pretty good. Maybe even Decker, Frank stayed 4 years. Take a kid to the student union in summer and you can see why kids go to school there!
I don't see many similarities to their games. Why do you think Stone is a perfect fit to provide the versatility inside/out that Kaminsky does?
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Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
Sounds good to me.
Go away and quit wasting out time with this nonsense.
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I don't see many similarities to their games. Why do you think Stone is a perfect fit to provide the versatility inside/out that Kaminsky does?
Seriously. Didn't realize Stone was a deadeye from three-point land and a stellar passer. Learn something new every day.
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I don't see many similarities to their games. Why do you think Stone is a perfect fit to provide the versatility inside/out that Kaminsky does?
Many forget Diamond has dropped nearly 20 pounds and added a nice jumper. This playoff game from a couple weeks ago he hit 4 three pointers alone:
http://youtu.be/LLppVdHUkkQ
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I am unhappy to report that WI is all I have been hearing during the last month. No mention of anything else other than "I heard he qualified" from everyone and his brother. If he joins them, they are going to be pretty tough next year even without Dekker coming back. They have a kid who is redshirting — Happ — who by all accounts has been killing it in practice against their first team. With Koenig and Hayes (would love to see him leave early), that is a nice line-up. I am still hoping for a UConn or Maryland miracle. Anywhere but UW.
That made me LOL. Kowske is one of the nicest guys around (other than being a Badger). A few years ago, I was in the Wrigley bleachers with him and a few others. We were just drinking beers during batting practice and some Cub launches one to left field. Kowske keeps his beer in one hand and bare hands the home run like a Venus fly trap and throws it back on to the field like nothing happened. (Yes, Warriors and Badgers can get along.)
Have also heard Diamond to UW for a while now too. I would guess we would hear either this week or whenever the Badgers' season ends.
I don't see many similarities to their games. Why do you think Stone is a perfect fit to provide the versatility inside/out that Kaminsky does?
I'm guessing he just meant that they lose 1 star center but gain another. And while I agree, their games are nothing alike, Stone did make 4 3 pointers in the only close game they played in the WIAA State Playoffs (vs. Racine St. Cat's).
However, from what I am hearing, UW's offense...system...may not be the same offense...system...that it is today by the start of next year. If you get my hint...
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
See ya'
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Have also heard Diamond to UW for a while now too. I would guess we would hear either this week or whenever the Badgers' season ends.
I'm guessing he just meant that they lose 1 star center but gain another. And while I agree, their games are nothing alike, Stone did make 4 3 pointers in the only close game they played in the WIAA State Playoffs (vs. Racine St. Cat's).
However, from what I am hearing, UW's offense...system...may not be the same offense...system...that it is today by the start of next year. If you get my hint...
If your hint is what I think it is...man oh man.
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However, from what I am hearing, UW's offense...system...may not be the same offense...system...that it is today by the start of next year. If you get my hint...
Bo Ryan to MU?
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Have also heard Diamond to UW for a while now too. I would guess we would hear either this week or whenever the Badgers' season ends.
I'm guessing he just meant that they lose 1 star center but gain another. And while I agree, their games are nothing alike, Stone did make 4 3 pointers in the only close game they played in the WIAA State Playoffs (vs. Racine St. Cat's).
However, from what I am hearing, UW's offense...system...may not be the same offense...system...that it is today by the start of next year. If you get my hint...
Regardless of the hint, any replacement would most certainly run the Swing.
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Regardless of the hint, any replacement would most certainly run the Swing.
This is true.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
I guess being way down in Kenosha, you missed this.
Marcus Landry (born November 1, 1985) is an American professional basketball player. Landry attended Vincent High School in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and played his college basketball at the University of Wisconsin from 2005 to 2009.
I'm thinking that we were actually doomed then, and now we're double secret doomed.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
Congratulations on clinching the title of No. 1 Douchebag of Scoopland!!
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I guess being way down in Kenosha, you missed this.
Marcus Landry (born November 1, 1985) is an American professional basketball player. Landry attended Vincent High School in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and played his college basketball at the University of Wisconsin from 2005 to 2009.
I'm thinking that we were actually doomed then, and now we're double secret doomed.
Not to mention Ray Nixon, Boo Wade, Devin Harris (close enough), Freddie Owens, etc.
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Congratulations on clinching the title of No. 1 Douchebag of Scoopland!!
it's the than vs. then and the 'C' in color that clinches the #1 status for him above and beyond the obvious trolling.
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Close to home, going to a school with a tremendous amount of success over the last 15 years including two of the most dominant years in their programs history (this and last season). He could do worse.
And choosing a school that doesn't care about graduating it's players...according to APR. Makes total sense.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
Starving for attention? Drunk at 4:40 on a Tuesday afternoon? Both?
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Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
Say hi to the K-Mart checkout girl when you go to get your fan gear.
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The last time Bucky went to the Final Four (2000), we were there 3 years later.
The last time they won the Big Ten (2008), 3 years later we started a 3 year streak in at least the S16.
Their success has never precluded ours.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
I'd love to tell you to "relax" and "respect the process," but it is clear that you are incapable of either.
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However, from what I am hearing, UW's offense...system...may not be the same offense...system...that it is today by the start of next year. If you get my hint...
Hmm... interesting. Approaching this with Garded optimism.
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Hmm... interesting. Approaching this with Garded optimism.
Well played!
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The last time Bucky went to the Final Four (2000), we were there 3 years later.
The last time they won the Big Ten (2008), 3 years later we started a 3 year streak in at least the S16.
Their success has never precluded ours.
+1
Just like the DePaul discussion, their is no basis for this "Zero sum" mentality that if one is good it takes away from the MU.
If anything, having good strong rivals helps.
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we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
Yeah, cuz Iowa St never loses a scrimmage to K-state.
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All Wisconsin's success does is make their fans more unbearable than they already are. Outside of that, their success doesn't have much of an effect on MU. Rarely are they locked in recruiting battles anymore.
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Hmm... interesting. Approaching this with Garded optimism.
I think a new system there could be BARRY interesting.
Wouldn't that be the ultimate Barry move, stepping in once again to save the day, for the seniors, of course.
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All Wisconsin's success does is make their fans more unbearable than they already are. Outside of that, their success doesn't have much of an effect on MU. Rarely are they locked in recruiting battles anymore.
That could change. Bo would have loved Ellenson but never had a chance. I find it unlikely that Wojo would have passed on guys like Dekker and LaChance that seem to fit Bo's system but Buzz for whatever reason didn't want. In the coming years, the Hauser brothers, Anderson, and Nobal Days could all end up having both Marquette and UW as suitors.
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it's the than vs. then and the 'C' in color that clinches the #1 status for him above and beyond the obvious trolling.
Its okay tho cuz his a teacher in an urban area with Colored students. He nose how it reallyest iz.
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That could change. Bo would have loved Ellenson but never had a chance. I find it unlikely that Wojo would have passed on guys like Dekker and LaChance that seem to fit Bo's system but Buzz for whatever reason didn't want. In the coming years, the Hauser brothers, Anderson, and Nobal Days could all end up having both Marquette and UW as suitors.
Buzz wanted Dekker. Dekker just committed very early for UW.
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Yeah, cuz Iowa St never loses a scrimmage to K-state.
Blast from the past, nice.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
Teal? What, You're serious?
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The last time Bucky went to the Final Four (2000), we were there 3 years later.
The last time they won the Big Ten (2008), 3 years later we started a 3 year streak in at least the S16.
Their success has never precluded ours.
I swear Wisconsin went to a FF last year (2014). Our run started this year, 3 more years Sweet 16!
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I got the impression Diamond wanted to be a one and done guy.
I don't see that happening under Bo. A true 5 man handling the ball on the perimeter of the swing will be interesting to see.
I thought Duane and him were best friends at some point...
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I got the impression Diamond wanted to be a one and done guy.
I don't see that happening under Bo. A true 5 man handling the ball on the perimeter of the swing will be interesting to see.
I thought Duane and him were best friends at some point...
They actually dont really like eachother.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
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How is Dekker going to lead them to a NC when he in all likelihood is turning pro?
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Buzz wanted Dekker. Dekker just committed very early for UW.
I spoke with Sams brother a few times about this. Buzz showed no interest prior to his committment at UW.
Dekker did commit early (after his sophomore season), but Buzz made no visits to Sheboygan / made no offer.
I'm not sure how you can say "Buzz wanted Dekker".
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I spoke with Sams brother a few times about this. Buzz showed no interest prior to his committment at UW.
Dekker did commit early (after his sophomore season), but Buzz made no visits to Sheboygan / made no offer.
I'm not sure how you can say "Buzz wanted Dekker".
That is contrary to what I heard in that Sam made it clear he wanted to go to UW early on. But you talked to someone closer than I have so I have no reason to doubt you.
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The sky is not falling, worry about our team not the unbearable one to the north. Take the summer off and we'll pick it up in September and see where we're at. I have confidence in the new MUBB,give coach and staff a chance to mesh all the pieces
together and develop. Buzz was good till he ran it into the ground for whatever reasons you want to name.
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The sky is not falling, worry about our team not the unbearable one to the north. Take the summer off and we'll pick it up in September and see where we're at. I have confidence in the new MUBB,give coach and staff a chance to mesh all the pieces
together and develop. Buzz was good till he ran it into the ground for whatever reasons you want to name.
What does UWGB have to do with this? :)
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The sky is not falling, worry about our team not the unbearable one to the north. Take the summer off and we'll pick it up in September and see where we're at. I have confidence in the new MUBB,give coach and staff a chance to mesh all the pieces
together and develop. Buzz was good till he ran it into the ground for whatever reasons you want to name.
Classic Chicago.
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They actually dont really like eachother.
This is not true at all.
It may be true that their parents do not always see eye to eye but Duane and Diamond are friends.
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
Nate, better put the bong away for a while.
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This is not true at all.
It may be true that their parents do not always see eye to eye but Duane and Diamond are friends.
I don't know either of them personally but from what I've heard, I agree. Duane has been supportive of Diamond and he would have no reason to fake it considering they aren't teammates anymore and Stone is not going to Marquette.
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This is not true at all.
It may be true that their parents do not always see eye to eye but Duane and Diamond are friends.
I'd also echo this. Diamond may not have played for DuWil Sr in AAU, but I've heard he does have a good relationship with Duane Jr.
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So why doesn't he team up with Duane at Marquette?
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So why doesn't he team up with Duane at Marquette?
Maybe that decision isn't Diamond's to make.
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So why doesn't he team up with Duane at Marquette?
Did you go to the same college that your very best friend from high school did? I know I didn't.
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Buzz wanted Dekker. Dekker just committed very early for UW.
100% false. dekker committed early...but buzz never made contact.
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So why doesn't he team up with Duane at Marquette?
Wow, you have one diamond hard, hard on for a particular HS basketball player.
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I spoke with Sams brother a few times about this. Buzz showed no interest prior to his committment at UW.
Dekker did commit early (after his sophomore season), but Buzz made no visits to Sheboygan / made no offer.
I'm not sure how you can say "Buzz wanted Dekker".
Typical of Buzz the Numbnuts!
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FWIW Diamond Stone tweeted that he will be committing tonight at 7:30 on Twitter.
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Diamond Stone just said he's announcing his school on twitter in 20 minutes... 730 cst.
Roy Schmidt says he thinks it's the badgers. #donedeal?
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What no hat dance and presser at Donimnican? Why do it Friday night on Twitter when the basketball world is watching the S16.
Strange
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Probably just wanted to give the Badgers a little extra juice before tomorrow's big game, ai na?
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What no hat dance and presser at Donimnican? Why do it Friday night on Twitter when the basketball world is watching the S16.
Strange
Must be bad news. Bad news is always reserved for late Friday.
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Must be bad news. Bad news is always reserved for late Friday.
What is bad news? China? prep school?
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TERPS!!!
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MARYLAND!!!
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Maryland!
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Lol
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*Ray Liotta laugh*
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Maryland? OK I guess.
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Eh, he wasn't a Bo type of player, says Badger Nation... code for a guy they wanted, but they're coming to grips with didn't want them.
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Hopefully the beginning of sh**ty weekend for Bucky.
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If Dekker comes out ... No tourney for Bucky next year. Maryland will take their spot from the B1G!
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Still the B1G, but at least it isn't Wisconsin. Those insufferable d-bags.
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Like many other top recruits in Wisconsin, the Badgers were always going to be second. They had zero chance at him and Stone wanted no part of going there. Anyone who thought otherwise had junk info.
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Under armour school. Just saying. Not that's why he chose there but it could have very well played a huge part.
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The Kohl Center board is starting to heat up, this should be fun... ;D
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LOL
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Must be bad news. Bad news is always reserved for late Friday.
My thoughts exactly. Bad news for Bucky!
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Well, it seems even getting admitted to UW didn't mean he was going to UW... I'm very surprised, but I agree with the UnderArmour thought process
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Bradley Groff @buckybacker09 9m9 minutes ago Hartland, WI
Looney to UCLA last year, Ellenson to Marquette next year, and Diamond Stone now to Terps...I don't get it #tears #OnWisconsin
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And it will be sweet that Diamond plays Bo and his Wisky guys 2x...
AND :
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 24, 2015, 04:40:31 PM
Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball
Kenosha WRONG again... Douche ! ! !
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Classic- just posted on their board-
"Why would he pick Maryland on the Eve of such a big game for the Badgers. Call me a prick, but the Badger coaching staff put a lot of time in the kid. Wouldn't it be more respectful to wait until say Sunday to announce? I don't think I would have let my kid do that. "
As Tower says, what a bunch of insufferable d-bags
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A little removed from the AAU scene, but what is the effect of the shoe companies? I've definitely heard the connections before (and Pitino's whining), but don't know how it influences. Thanks all, and happy with this pick!!
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All the graduates, errrr, guys who have used up their eligibility, probably Dekker, possibly Bo, no Diamond... red nation had better enjoy the here and now.
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And it will be sweet that Diamond plays Bo and his Wisky guys 2x...
AND :
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 24, 2015, 04:40:31 PM
Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball
Kenosha WRONG again... Douche ! ! !
hadn't thought of that. Does this mean that KenoshaWarrior is going to come crawling back to MU?
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I'm glad he's going to Maryland, but the Henry/Diamond rivalry could have been a pretty fun chapter in the rivalry. Oh well...
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hadn't thought of that. Does this mean that KenoshaWarrior is going to come crawling back to MU?
Why would anyone care whether he does or doesn't.
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Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook 12m12 minutes ago
Three McDonald's All-Americans in WI the past two years and none will play at WI. Looney (UCLA), Ellenson (Marquette), Stone (Maryland).
Reportedly Diamond got a 24 on his ACT.
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So awesome. So much Schadenfreude.
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Maybe he wants his degree and saw the graduation rate for African-American basketball players at Wisconsin. ;D
Or....he cooled on Bo.
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Like many other top recruits in Wisconsin, the Badgers were always going to be second. They had zero chance at him and Stone wanted no part of going there. Anyone who thought otherwise had junk info.
As we hear so often Bo cooled on him.
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Does Bo retire after they lose tomorrow night?
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This entire process was hysterical to watch from out east. From the start, I don't think anyone really had a fooking clue what was going on with Stone. Big, big get for Turgeon.
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Bahahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh this is so sweet
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So awesome. So much Schadenfreude.
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GO WILDCATS! Send us more of that sweet, sweet schadenfreude.
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The Terps will have Trimble, Layman, Dodds, Nickens, Wiley and now Stone. Turgeon looking to add two more to roster. Dez Wells was a big loss, but the building blocks are there for a decent team. The Comcast/Xifinity Center is a great venue for b-ball and lets see how Stone does when they play the Badgers. Good pick for Diamond if he didn't want MU.
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As we hear so often Bo cooled on him.
Beat me to it! Screw the friggin' rodents. :D
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Diamond going to Wisconsin is the final nail in the coffin for Marquette basketball. 4 years ago this team was headed to the stratosphere, than when Buzz left everything went to poop and UW is headed to back to back to back national championship with Stone, Decker, and Hayes, and than whoever else comes in after Decker leaves (Chances are they will be big time recruits that do not want to attend Marquette anymore)
Wojo better get to a final 4 and get to one fast before UW laps us again. The fact that a city of Milwaukee kid of Color wants to play with UW shows how far we have fallen.
And in regards to Ellenson. Everyone is telling me that he is overrated and will get beaten up when Diamond plays them.
we are doomed. Looks like I am going to start cheering for Iowa State
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I can't believe I didn't see this gem of a post until today. Honestly, I'm not sure how they allow you to teach kids.
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Ooooooohhh, let's start this rumor. Diamond was going to come to Wisconsin, but Bo told him that he was done after this season, so Diamond went to Maryland. Run that one by your badger buddies.
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Ooooooohhh, let's start this rumor. Diamond was going to come to Wisconsin, but Bo told him that he was done after this season, so Diamond went to Maryland. Run that one by your badger buddies.
Wardle to Bucky!
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Ooooooohhh, let's start this rumor. Diamond was going to come to Wisconsin, but Bo told him that he was done after this season, so Diamond went to Maryland. Run that one by your badger buddies.
Madison would burn to the ground if that happened... and I'd be there roasting marshmallows and making S'mores
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Yeah, it would be fun. All scoopers living in Wisconsin, sell it hard to your badger neighbors.
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They are really taking the timing of the commitment personally like he ruined the weekend or something, quite a funny read
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They are really taking the timing of the commitment personally like he ruined the weekend or something, quite a funny read
It makes no sense to take it so hard... You just can't enjoy your back to back huge years of success? This ruined your win vs UNC? Really?
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It makes no sense to take it so hard... You just can't enjoy your back to back huge years of success? This ruined your win vs UNC? Really?
They're so full of themselves now it's nauseating.
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They are really taking the timing of the commitment personally like he ruined the weekend or something, quite a funny read
Amazing. They might be 40 minutes from a Final Four, and they freak out over an 18 year old kid's decision. ?-(
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Rivals.com posted that Diamond Stone announced this evening that he will play for Maryland next year. Tough loss for WI.
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Turgeon has achieved cult-like status in the NCR. The Turgeonites have elevated Coach Turgeon to a God-like figure. Such creativity among a student body is refreshing. Very refreshing, indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsJiH0mXLWY
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/terrapins-insider/wp/2013/02/15/behind-the-scenes-with-the-turgeonites/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/maryland-students-dress-like-mark-turgeon/2012/02/01/gIQAk26whQ_blog.html
http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/maryland-basketball-fans-dress-like-mark-turgeon-dance-video
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Here's the link:
https://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Diamond-Stone-131549
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Check out @DougRussell's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DougRussell/status/581618655366160384?s=09
Read the responses too
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Check out @DougRussell's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DougRussell/status/581618655366160384?s=09
Read the responses too
Denial. No surprise.
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Mitch Nelles @mitchnelles 50m50 minutes ago
AMEN "@RDTopp: People tweeting nastiness at a high school kid over a commitment to not-their-school are disgusting. STOP IT. #Badgers"
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The Crystal Ball broke on that one. Only 3/28 (11%). May the Wildcats have the strength to make the weekend a miserable one.
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MKE Urinal had a brief blip with picture. There were 14 comments and about 12 of them centered on the fact that DS didn't qualify for UW but Maryland was willing to let him in.
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The Crystal Ball broke on that one. Only 3/28 (11%). May the Wildcats have the strength to make the weekend a miserable one.
Lol. Cristal bowel is mostly little kids playing a game where u take public knowledge & go with it. Just a dumb marketing tool
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Adidas out of NBA to be replaced by...funny how that works.
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A little removed from the AAU scene, but what is the effect of the shoe companies? I've definitely heard the connections before (and Pitino's whining), but don't know how it influences. Thanks all, and happy with this pick!!
Under Armour's president and founder is Maryland alum and huge donor Kevin Plank. Under Armour has funded Diamond's team, Young Legends for many years. Don't know the regulations, but they had the most gear of any AAU team I had ever seen. I believe they can pay for travel, hotels, etc. too. Diamond's trainer is Deshawn Curtis, and he runs a bunch of other YL teams. Under Armour supplies all of those teams too which I always thought was weird. The YL teams other than Diamond's are average at best (but they are run by Curtis). Most sponsors like UA, Jordan, Adidas, only sponsor teams that have big-name players, so them sponsoring Diamond always made sense. But Diamond was always the showcase player -- his dad surrounded him with good players, but not D1 guys. Most were his friends growing up through bball. I know Ray Allen Select approached him to play up with LaChance, Timmer and Ellingson early on (that would have been an unstoppable team). I also know Playground with guys like Ellenson, NN, Cohen and others recruited him forever. Same with Looney, Tre Jefferson and Rebels. I had always heard "his team" wanted Diamond to be "the man" and weren't interested in teams with other major stars. On a totally random note, Deshawn Curtis also trained our recruit Ahmed Hill for a little while. So, so happy he signed with Maryland! I saw Trimble on a draft board somewhere around #20, would be funny if he left. I saw someone say earlier that WI isn't going to make the tourney next year without Stone -- good one.
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So many Bucky fans still think he didn't qualify.
I thoroughly enjoy watching this unfold.
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Under Armour's president and founder is Maryland alum and huge donor Kevin Plank. Under Armour has funded Diamond's team, Young Legends for many years. Don't know the regulations, but they had the most gear of any AAU team I had ever seen. I believe they can pay for travel, hotels, etc. too. Diamond's trainer is Deshawn Curtis, and he runs a bunch of other YL teams. Under Armour supplies all of those teams too which I always thought was weird. The YL teams other than Diamond's are average at best (but they are run by Curtis). Most sponsors like UA, Jordan, Adidas, only sponsor teams that have big-name players, so them sponsoring Diamond always made sense. But Diamond was always the showcase player -- his dad surrounded him with good players, but not D1 guys. Most were his friends growing up through bball. I know Ray Allen Select approached him to play up with LaChance, Timmer and Ellingson early on (that would have been an unstoppable team). I also know Playground with guys like Ellenson, NN, Cohen and others recruited him forever. Same with Looney, Tre Jefferson and Rebels. I had always heard "his team" wanted Diamond to be "the man" and weren't interested in teams with other major stars. On a totally random note, Deshawn Curtis also trained our recruit Ahmed Hill for a little while. So, so happy he signed with Maryland! I saw Trimble on a draft board somewhere around #20, would be funny if he left. I saw someone say earlier that WI isn't going to make the tourney next year without Stone -- good one.
Trimble has already announced he is returning
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So many Bucky fans still think he didn't qualify.
I thoroughly enjoy watching this unfold.
Hahaha. That would be the same UW with a 40% graduation rate, right? Just checking.
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Trimble has already announced he is returning
thx. did not know that. does this mean Malik Newman to Maryland too?
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UW all of a sudden on a Saturday during the State Tourney admitted Diamond. Coincidence to this? http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12493645/adidas-pursue-extension-nba-apparel-deal
IUA, IUA!!!!
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Bo's daughter weighs in... https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581622100076716032?s=09
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Bo's daughter weighs in... https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581622100076716032?s=09
Twitter handle: "Smell my finger", a'nia? No kidding.
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Bo's daughter weighs in... https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581622100076716032?s=09
Vadgers just love to perpetuate that myth. What a delusional group.
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So many Bucky fans still think he didn't qualify.
I thoroughly enjoy watching this unfold.
Many of them will never be convinced otherwise. At some point that hack Potrykus will weigh in and "confirm" their myth.
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Many of them will never be convinced otherwise. At some point that hack Potrykus will weigh in and "confirm" their myth.
Even Erik the Red said Stone was accepted. Just denial now to say otherwise.
Was it academic? Maybe. As in, maybe Stone saw UW's graduation rate for black athletes and decided his ACT was too good to go there...
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WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE DIAMOND STONE, KEVON LOONEY, JAMEEL McKAY, RILEY LaCHANCE, AND NOSKOWIAK IN
MU UNIS. JUST DREAMIN'
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WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE DIAMOND STONE, KEVON LOONEY, JAMEEL McKAY, RILEY LaCHANCE, AND NOSKOWIAK IN
MU UNIS. JUST DREAMIN'
And NO Henry? Anim? Carter? Cheatham?
smdh
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WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE DIAMOND STONE, KEVON LOONEY, JAMEEL McKAY, RILEY LaCHANCE, AND NOSKOWIAK IN
MU UNIS. JUST DREAMIN'
Not possible all at the same time. looney go to the NBA this year and had McKay stayed he would have been done this year.
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http://www.wissports.net/news_article/show/496870?referrer_id=519407
Diamond Stone announces commitment to Maryland
03/27/2015, 7:30pm CDT By Mark Miller
Diamond Stone
Dominican senior Diamond Stone announced his collegiate commitment to Maryland tonight via Twitter.
One of the top-rated players to ever come out of the state, Stone selected the Terrapins over a final four that consisted of Wisconsin, Connecticut and Oklahoma State.
A McDonald's All-American and co-Mr. Basketball award winner along with Henry Ellenson of Rice Lake, Stone had reportedly narrowed his choices in recent weeks to Maryland and Wisconsin, rivals in the Big Ten Conference.
Stone is a 6-foot-10 post player who is ranked No. 7 nationally in the class of 2015 by ESPN. He recently joined Randolph's Ryan Tillema as the only players in state history to start on four consecutive state-championship teams.
Stone and his teammates from Dominican defeated Mineral Point last Saturday to capture the WIAA Division 4 state title for the fourth straight season.
"Diamond has really progressed over the last four years," Dominican coach Derek Berger said. "His body matured over this time and that is due to his hard work in the off-season. Diamond's skill set has blossomed in this time as well.
"As a freshman, he was mostly drop steps and half hooks, and now as a senior, he is making every move and shot possible on the court. His ability to attack the rim from the top of the key is a great asset for him. Diamond's passing is a strength as well. He can make the full-length outlet pass, pass out of double and triple teams and pass off the dribble."
A dominant player in the post, Stone averaged 24.4 points and 11.7 rebounds per game as a senior while leading Dominican to a 25-3 record and the title in the Metro Classic Conference. He also averaged just over three blocked shots per contest.
"Diamond going to Maryland will be a great fit," Berger said. "Maryland does an outstanding job of producing quality bigs. Diamond will be able to play right away and learn from an incredible coaching staff. I have been blessed to coach him in high school, and I look forward to seeing him continue to develop with his time at Maryland."
Stone is the 11th player in the state in the class of 2015 to commit to a NCAA Division I school. He joins Ellenson (Marquette), Neenah's Matt Heldt (Marquette), De Pere's Brevin Pritzl (Wisconsin), Regis' Billy Wampler (Drake), Pius XI's Levi Bradley (Northern Illinois), West De Pere's Cody Schwartz (San Jose State), Stoughton's Nick McGlynn (Drake), Homestead's Jaylen Key (Northern Illinois), Pacelli's James Gollon (Ohio) and Wausau East's Dylan Hamlin (Army).
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Great news, looking forward to Maryland beating Wisconsin again.
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WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE DIAMOND STONE, KEVON LOONEY, JAMEEL McKAY, RILEY LaCHANCE, AND NOSKOWIAK IN
MU UNIS. JUST DREAMIN'
None could get accepted into MU, the Yale of the Midwest. Even though one did, and one is at Vanderbilt.
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Bo's daughter weighs in... https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581622100076716032?s=09
What a classless move.
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Bo's daughter weighs in... https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581622100076716032?s=09
So sad.
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So sad.
I liked some of the responses to her. ;)
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Bo's daughter weighs in... https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581622100076716032?s=09
Really stupid of her. If it is true, UW could face lawsuits for violating FERPA. The information would only have been available to individuals in admissions and the basketball team, her stating it publicly would be bad news.
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I liked some of the responses to her. ;)
Reading Twitter huh?
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That was really dumb. Perhaps some 18 year olds might think it's clever, but it's a poor reflection of uw and their coach.
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Reading Twitter huh?
She's over 18...I made sure not to follow her, too. :)
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Bo's daughter weighs in... https://twitter.com/BrenkRyan/status/581622100076716032?s=09
Did someone tip you off she was saying something galactically arrogant and at best uninformed, at worst, total lie, about this? I'm not being a smart a**, just curious. How did her twitter of all Badger, college basketball, recruiting, etc. twitter accounts, get on anyone's radar where anyone would have bothered to look? I didn't even know (or care really) that a) he has a daughter, and b) she is a liar and/or moron.
Never mind, Kohl Center board.
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Really stupid of her. If it is true, UW could face lawsuits for violating FERPA. The information would only have been available to individuals in admissions and the basketball team, her stating it publicly would be bad news.
This follow-up by her was even more stupid ....
Brenna Ryan @BrenkRyan 3h3 hours ago @SRivers44
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She's over 18...I made sure not to follow her, too. :)
So it's okay for you, a (I'm guessing) male in his 40s, to look around at a (again, guessing) college age girl's Twitter but not a 17-18 year old male's Twitter?
Talk about creepy...
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So it's okay for you, a (I'm guessing) male in his 40s, to look around at a (again, guessing) college age girl's Twitter but not a 17-18 year old male's Twitter?
Talk about creepy...
I clicked on a link....I'm not signing up for a 16 year old kid to find out who he's banging each night, what his favorite tunes are, how he's all dat, and living on his every tweet of 128 characters (or whatever it is) day to day to day.
She's over 18....she can vote...she can go to war....she can get f'd on video and paid for it legally.....surely you understand this.
Did some 16 year old that we are after get a zit that he's reporting on twitter tonight? Don't share....
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So does Badger Nation blame Stone, either whole or in part at least, if they lose tomorrow?
Judging by their reactions and venom tonight being directed at him having the audacity to pick another program other than their mighty program, I'd say there will be a vocal minority that probably will be classless, stupid, and immature enough to do so.
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I know it's been mentioned before but is there any legs to the rumor Bo is going to retire at the end of the year? Could it be a factor?
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I clicked on a link....I'm not signing up for a 16 year old kid to find out who he's banging each night, what his favorite tunes are, how he's all dat, and living on his every tweet of 128 characters (or whatever it is) day to day to day.
She's over 18....she can vote...she can go to war....she can get f'd on video and paid for it legally.....surely you understand this.
Did some 16 year old that we are after get a zit that he's reporting on twitter tonight? Don't share....
LOL, give it up on the Twitter thing.
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This follow-up by her was even more stupid ....
Brenna Ryan @BrenkRyan 3h3 hours ago @SRivers44
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I know it's been mentioned before but is there any legs to the rumor Bo is going to retire at the end of the year? Could it be a factor?
Why would he retire? He's young for the undead.
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What a classless move.
You have been all over Stone's case, but it's classless when someone else does it?
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As I look through her twitter account, this kid is a complete piece of work!
@BrenkRyan · 2h 2 hours ago Y'all made that a mean tweet in your own heads. It was just way too easy. But seriously I got denied, not even wait listed. Y'all are mean.
Why are you telling everyone that the daughter of the basketball coach was unable to even get wait-listed? Do you have any idea how this makes you look?
Brenna Ryan @BrenkRyan Stay posted. There's always more the story.
Daddy is not going to happy with this .... again! You should not be saying this.
Brenna Ryan retweeted
Ben Eckburg @BenEckburg · 4h 4 hours ago
@JayBilas if a top recruit narrows down to top 3 schools, is it normal for them not to call other 2 coaches before committing to 1?
Does daddy really share this much detail about recruiting with you? Who else does he share this kind of detail with? You do realize that NCAA has rules about not talking about recruits. They might even apply to you, Brenna.
Brenna Ryan @BrenkRyan · Mar 26
“@WhiteBballPains: WISCONSIN TO THE ELITE 8! #WhiteBballSuccess https://vine.co/v/O3jTIEL3nqL ” the reaction you have when @ZShowbball333 dominates
Can someone help me here ... is Bo Ryan's daughter celebrating that a "white" team won? The same Bo Ryan, I will again note, that has a 0% African American graduation rate. Does Bo Ryan want the world to know his daughter thinks this way? I can tell you others will use this to say Bo thinks this way too.
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You have been all over Stone's case, but it's classless when someone else does it?
My father is not Bo Ryan. I'm just an anonymous idiot like everyone else here, spouting off stuff.
Brena Ryan has direct access to the person that knows everything and that carries a responsibility, weather actual knowledge or a mere appearance, that she does not understand.
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Twitter is a mouthpiece for the stupid and narcissistic.
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Why would he retire? He's young for the undead.
Well done.
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Twitter is a mouthpiece for the stupid and narcissistic.
Definitely, that's what Twitter is premised on.
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As I look through her twitter account
That was your first mistake.
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As I look through her twitter account, this kid is a complete piece of work!
@BrenkRyan · 2h 2 hours ago Y'all made that a mean tweet in your own heads. It was just way too easy. But seriously I got denied, not even wait listed. Y'all are mea
Why are you telling everyone that the daughter of the basketball coach was unable to even get wait-listed? Do you have any idea how this makes you look?
Brenna Ryan @BrenkRyan Stay posted. There's always more the story.
Daddy is not going to happy with this .... again! You should not be saying this.
Brenna Ryan retweeted
Ben Eckburg @BenEckburg · 4h 4 hours ago
@JayBilas if a top recruit narrows down to top 3 schools, is it normal for them not to call other 2 coaches before committing to 1?
Does daddy really share this much detail about recruiting with you? Who else does he share this kind of detail with? You do realize that NCAA has rules about not talking about recruits. They might even apply to you, Brenna.
Brenna Ryan @BrenkRyan · Mar 26
“@WhiteBballPains: WISCONSIN TO THE ELITE 8! #WhiteBballSuccess https://vine.co/v/O3jTIEL3nqL ” the reaction you have when @ZShowbball333 dominates
Can someone help me here ... is Bo Ryan's daughter celebrating that a "white" team won? The same Bo Ryan, I will again note, that has a 0% African American graduation rate. Does Bo Ryan want the world to know his daughter thinks this way? I can tell you others will use this to say Bo thinks this way too.
You're telling me this gal couldn't get into UW? wow, they do have some high academic standards.
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This makes me do happy.
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https://maryland.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1751349
Nice writeup for Md's and Stone's potential for next year.
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Well she may not be too bright, but based on that little profile photo on her twitter page she's kind of a babe. I mean, she's 18 after all AMIRIGHT CHICOS??! (High fives Chicos)
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Well she may not be too bright, but based on that little profile photo on her twitter page she's kind of a babe. I mean, she's 18 after all AMIRIGHT CHICOS??! (High fives Chicos)
Can check both counts out for yourself...
http://youtu.be/7au7assmdJk
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Can check both counts out for yourself...
http://youtu.be/7au7assmdJk
Yikes.
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Am I the only one whose reaction to this is grudging respect for UW that they didn't just automatically accept her, as Bo's kid?
I would have just assumed that every university vip gets their kids in automatically.
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Most sponsors like UA, Jordan, Adidas, only sponsor teams that have big-name players, so them sponsoring Diamond always made sense.
Don't know what your definition of big-name players is, but unless it's a really strange one, this isn't true. The shoe (and other) companies sponsor a lot of programs.
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Can check both counts out for yourself...
http://youtu.be/7au7assmdJk
Even when Diamond was heavier, this chick makes him look like a toothpick. What a beast.
Mairin, another Bo daughter, is box. I love her.
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Can check both counts out for yourself...
http://youtu.be/7au7assmdJk
Deceptive selfies, the other danger of the social media age.
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Am I the only one whose reaction to this is grudging respect for UW that they didn't just automatically accept her, as Bo's kid?
I would have just assumed that every university vip gets their kids in automatically.
I was thinking they do accept every vip's kid. So what was it about her application that they could not take her? Maybe her act score was lower than DS.
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Don't know what your definition of big-name players is, but unless it's a really strange one, this isn't true. The shoe (and other) companies sponsor a lot of programs.
Just going on limited personal experience. There are a lot of sponsors who give money here and there, but pretty much most teams charge a team fee to the player cover items like travel, tourney fees, and some gear. I know a lot of sponsors locally like Devin Harris, Joe Pryzbilla and Ray Allen give gear, or a little bit of money. The gear is typically given by the NBA player's shoe sponsor. (So Harris gives his team adidas and Allen gives Jordan). My point was (and perhaps I didn't make it clear enough), when you have a guy like Diamond, Under Armour comes in a pays for EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN legally -- beyond the "typical" sponsorship. The kind of sponsorship that happens to "big-name players." That doesn't happen to many teams; most teams get a little sponsorship and pay their way. As a specific example, we just lost two kids on our AAU team to the Young Legends because "the gear is better and they pay for everything." They play for free in all UA tournament they select, including many out of state. I wonder how long UA sponsors an average team, at the level they are sponsoring them? I wonder why? Is there some quid pro quo with trainer? I just find it odd. It is my opinion that the shoe companies are not in this to be altruistic, rather they are in it to get exposure and make money. Attaching themselves to "big-name" players gets more exposure. Attaching themselves to "big-name" players create buzz and create revenue. All the while they throw some shekels (and shoes) at other programs to look legit. Going "all in" on their investment is what it looks like to me. It also seems like a sound strategy. And from the outside, it looks like it just paid off from a recruiting standpoint.
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If he didn't get admitted, shouldn't Bo be the one making the phone call informing him? Does Bo expect a kid to call him to say he wasn't admitted? This pretty much confirms that he was admitted, and made the decision to attend Maryland. I think we all know that, but the Badger fans are only latching on to one of her tweets.
Brenna Ryan retweeted
Ben Eckburg @BenEckburg · 4h 4 hours ago
@JayBilas if a top recruit narrows down to top 3 schools, is it normal for them not to call other 2 coaches before committing to 1?
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Well she may not be too bright, but based on that little profile photo on her twitter page she's kind of a babe. I mean, she's 18 after all AMIRIGHT CHICOS??! (High fives Chicos)
YUP on the 18 stuff, but I'm not going to agree on the babe part.
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If he didn't get admitted, shouldn't Bo be the one making the phone call informing him? Does Bo expect a kid to call him to say he wasn't admitted? This pretty much confirms that he was admitted, and made the decision to attend Maryland. I think we all know that, but the Badger fans are only latching on to one of her tweets.
The only way Diamond didn't get admitted to Wisconsin is if he didn't get admitted anywhere and was headed to Europe. I wish him well and hope he's happy and successful out at Maryland.
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Brenna Ryan just tweeted this out. The article says she is the source of the information.
This is really bad.
NCAA rules prohibit a coach from discussing a recruit. You don't get around that rule by having your daughter in the room to tweet and blog what was said in private.
Has UW ever attacked a white recruit like this? Don't know, just asking?
Is Bo really ok with this? Does he want future recruits to know his private conservations will be made public in this manner? You can bet that other coaches going after the same recruits will tell them about this.
Again, I'm making a distinction between anonymous random people like me, or the comment I highlighted below (because I thought it was interesting) and insiders saying what is happening.
Anonymous random people know nothing. We are guessing or connecting dots when we don't see all the dots to begin with.
Brenna Ryan is not random; she is claiming first hand knowledge and using that position to disparage an 18 year old kid that rejected UW.
And, again, I think it is interesting that she is disparaging an 18-year old inner city African American recruit when UW has a 0% graduation rate for blacks. It does matter if this statistic is unfair. That is what the NCAA said it is so that is what everyone knows.
She also tweeted out #whitebballsuccess after UW beat UNC. Of course she will say she is not racist, then why tweet that out given your father's track record with African American players.
I cannot believe Bo has not muzzled her yet. He must not know about it. That is why I'm chronicling this. I would not be surprised if her account is deleted very soon.
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Brenna Ryan retweeted
The Victory Lap @TheVictoryLap_ · 47m 47 minutes ago
The real reason Diamond Stone is not a Wisconsin Badger #TakeALap - http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/03/the-real-reason-diamond-stone-is-not-a-wisconsin-badger/
The real reason Diamond Stone is not a Wisconsin Badger
http://thevictorylapblog.com/2015/03/the-real-reason-diamond-stone-is-not-a-wisconsin-badger/
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By now everybody with internet access has heard the news that the Badgers missed out on 5-star big man Diamond Stone, as he committed to Maryland last night. Obviously immediately after he announced his decision on Twitter the rumors started flying about why he’s not coming to UW, but everything has been entirely speculation. This won’t be.
Before I get too far into this, let me say ahead of time that I’m not writing this out of bitterness. Obviously I’m disappointed and pissed off that he’s not gonna be a Badger, but I’m not mad at him because of it. He’s a great player. He’ll be great at Maryland, and he’ll play in the NBA. Diamond Stone is just an 18-year-old kid deciding where to go to college, and he doesn’t owe UW anything just because he was born in Wisconsin. I’m just writing this because I know some details about the story, and because the wrong people have ended up taking the fall from this situation. So here’s what the “sources” and “insiders” weren’t talking about when it comes to one of the most hyped recruits to ever come out of Wisconsin not becoming a Badger…
Diamond Stone verbally committed to UW in November. Obviously that never became public knowledge so people will say it’s not true when they read this, but believe it or not, sometimes there’s some stuff that goes on behind the scenes in college sports that beat writers don’t know about (and I’m sure there’s plenty of the story that I don’t know, too. This is just the part that I’ve been told.) Diamond’s dad called Coach Ryan’s house and used the phrase “You might want to sit down for this” like he was about to announce the second coming of Jesus Christ. His dad then put Diamond on the phone, and he told Coach that he wanted to be a Badger. The problem was, both parties knew all along he didn’t have the grades/ACT score to get into the University at the time. I know this because Coach’s daughter Brenna answered the phone and was right there when it happened, and she’s a close friend of mine.
(No idea how she isn’t a Twitter sensation, by the way. If you’re looking for some entertainment, I recommend the follow.)
I’m not writing this to make fun of the guy or call him stupid – A lot of people don’t get into Madison. They just usually end up going to Minnesota, not Maryland. Hell, it’s common knowledge that Gary Andersen left Wisconsin because he couldn’t get his recruits into school (and because he’s a kitten). This isn’t a new issue for UW coaching staffs to deal with, but it’s a pretty important part of the real story. I know I’m not the first one saying Diamond Stone had a low ACT score because that’s been going around Twitter forever, I’m just confirming it. So, because he wasn’t admitted to the University yet, he decided to wait for a while before giving a half hour warning on Twitter to announce his commitment to the Badgers, instead of doing it right then.
At that point he still had time to improve his scores and be admitted, so he kept pushing back his public commitment because he didn’t want to end up getting denied and then have to face the embarrassment of decommitting – and rightfully so. Who would want to make that announcement? I can’t blame the guy. Obviously the decision eventually came down from UW that he was not admitted, so last night he announced that he’s going to Maryland – his second choice. (To be fair, I’m not blaming UW, either. I’ve already said I’m glad we have a standard for student athletes. It’s just frustrating.)
But the most frustrating part of the situation is that it makes it look like the program and our coaching staff made a mistake by not getting one of the biggest recruits in America when he grew up right in our backyard. The same thing happened when Vander Blue committed to Marquette. He was committed to UW and then ended up not getting into school, but the public perception is that these guys snubbed the Badgers, which just isn’t the case. It’s billed as a shortcoming of Wisconsin basketball, when in all actuality the mistake was not on their part.
People always jump to a kid’s defense when Twitter trolls talk bad about a guy like Diamond Stone for making his college decision, but nobody ever backs up the coaches who do the recruiting. It’s assumed that missing on a big time recruit is a failure on the part of the coaching staff. People call for their jobs or say recruiting at Wisconsin needs to change, but the fact is that they had no control in the matter. This is far from the first time this has happened, it’s just the one that got the most attention because Diamond is a complete monster. That’s what actually pissed me off about this situation. They’re the ones that end up looking bad, and recruiting is very literally part of their livelihood – but they can’t say anything about it. We have some great coaches and they’re a huge reason Wisconsin is playing to go to back-t0-back Final Fours in a few hours – But when stuff like this happens, they take the brunt of it because a lot of people don’t know the real story. It’s like at the end of the Dark Knight when Harvey Dent is the one who ends up becoming the hero and Batman has to take the fall. You either die a hero, or you coach long enough to see yourself become the enemy because a kid’s PPG is higher than his ACT.
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YB March 28, 2015 at 9:32 am Reply
Understandable rationalization. Giving Badgers coaches a little too much credit though. Staff recruits to the system and you know that. Recruits see Bronson Koenig playing little minutes as a freshman and steer away. It’s a stubbornness by Bo Ryan to change to the recruiting climate. Successful formula for programs looking to fight for conference every year and make occasional runs in the tourney. Not to win National titles.
Name (required) March 28, 2015 at 9:46 am Reply
All spin and only partially true. I have a friend in admissions and Diamnond was “accepted” a week and a half ago. The reason he isn’t a Badger is because his Dad got a consulting gig with Under Armour and he’ll be receiving a shoe contract the second he turns pro. If you’re going to put the spin out there, at least get it right.
DrewName (required) March 28, 2015 at 9:49 am Reply
YB, Completely wrong. Freshmen have played at UW – Gasser, Devin Harris, Sam Dekker, Nigel Hayes are just a few.
Devin March 28, 2015 at 10:02 am Reply
You guys are all full of crap. Diamond committed to Maryland because he wants to play for Maryland. I know for a FACT that he was admitted to UW, and that he could have committed there had he chosen to. The Under Armour story is also completely false. The kid just wanted to get away from home. PERIOD.
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That article is flatly wrong. He was admitted to the school.
I'd leave out the racial comparison stuff. The kid chose another school. What his daughter is thinking and why those tweets haven't come down yet is shocking to me. If I was someone at the school or on Bo's staff and heard about it, those tweets would be down immediately.
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Just going on limited personal experience. There are a lot of sponsors who give money here and there, but pretty much most teams charge a team fee to the player cover items like travel, tourney fees, and some gear. I know a lot of sponsors locally like Devin Harris, Joe Pryzbilla and Ray Allen give gear, or a little bit of money. The gear is typically given by the NBA player's shoe sponsor. (So Harris gives his team adidas and Allen gives Jordan). My point was (and perhaps I didn't make it clear enough), when you have a guy like Diamond, Under Armour comes in a pays for EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN legally -- beyond the "typical" sponsorship. The kind of sponsorship that happens to "big-name players." That doesn't happen to many teams; most teams get a little sponsorship and pay their way. As a specific example, we just lost two kids on our AAU team to the Young Legends because "the gear is better and they pay for everything." They play for free in all UA tournament they select, including many out of state. I wonder how long UA sponsors an average team, at the level they are sponsoring them? I wonder why? Is there some quid pro quo with trainer? I just find it odd. It is my opinion that the shoe companies are not in this to be altruistic, rather they are in it to get exposure and make money. Attaching themselves to "big-name" players gets more exposure. Attaching themselves to "big-name" players create buzz and create revenue. All the while they throw some shekels (and shoes) at other programs to look legit. Going "all in" on their investment is what it looks like to me. It also seems like a sound strategy. And from the outside, it looks like it just paid off from a recruiting standpoint.
The expense of playing AAU ball must be staggering for some/most parents when there is no sponsorship. Freeport, do the majority of teams not get sponsored?
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Badger fans being despicable and making excuses for St. Bo with thinly veiled racism?
It must be a day that ends in d-a-y.
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The comparison with Vander is also so off. Vander committed young and decommited young. I doubt he had even taken the ACT at the time he decided to re-open his recruitment.
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What do they hope to gain with this story? I see no benefit to publishing this.
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My father is not Bo Ryan. I'm just an anonymous idiot like everyone else here, spouting off stuff.
Brena Ryan has direct access to the person that knows everything and that carries a responsibility, weather actual knowledge or a mere appearance, that she does not understand.
And she's a kid. You're an adult??
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And she's a kid. You're an adult??
Actually she is adult too, she is 19. That is old enough to understand what she is doing.
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Good God what an embarrassing story and meltdown by Bo's kid. Hubris run wild. Go Cats.
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Badger fans being despicable and making excuses for St. Bo with thinly veiled racism?
It must be a day that ends in d-a-y.
Have you read this thread? You really are gonna criticize Badger fans for being despicable?
A "cum dumpster"? You people are sick. I'll take a Badger fan over a many of the people here every day that ends with d-a-y.
Wake up! There are just as many classless fools on this site as there are on their forums.
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Have you read this thread? You really are gonna criticize Badger fans for being despicable?
A "cum dumpster"? You people are sick. I'll take a Badger fan over a many of the people here every day that ends with d-a-y.
Wake up! There are just as many classless fools on this site as there are on their forums.
It's not "you people". It's ZFB.
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Have you read this thread? You really are gonna criticize Badger fans for being despicable?
A "cum dumpster"? You people are sick. I'll take a Badger fan over a many of the people here every day that ends with d-a-y.
Wake up! There are just as many classless fools on this site as there are on their forums.
+1. Very inappropriate to describe her that way.
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It's not "you people". It's ZFB.
I thought the term "you people" is racist.
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The expense of playing AAU ball must be staggering for some/most parents when there is no sponsorship. Freeport, do the majority of teams not get sponsored?
I would say most of the sponsorship is through gear (uniforms, shoes, warmups, etc.). The rest is on the team (parents). For instance, the five hs NY2LA tourney's cost $2400 - $2600 (for all of them). Add some out of state tourneys, hotels, travel, etc. and you can see it add up quickly. I would say team fees in the area range from $500 - $1,000 per kid. That would be in line with WI Shooters, WI Swing, Playground Wariors, Ray Allen, DTA, Playground Elite. In high school, a lot of teams finish their season in Las Vegas at the Fab 48, Las Vegas Classic, Adidas Uprising, etc. Just imagine the costs of just getting there. All programs try to do some amount of fundraising, but it is difficult. Obviously, the better the team, the more elite tourneys they enter. That is where the heavy travel and sponsorship really come in. And I think that was my point from earlier -- Diamond (and high-level dudes like him) aren't worrying about how to get to Nike Peach Jam or UA's Jayhawk Invitation and where they can get a $45 room rate like most. I can only speak for myself -- at good AAU program like those listed above, the team budget will be $10,000 and that doesn't include major travel, hotel, expenses. Some groups pay coaches. Some pay for coaches' travel and meals. Some pay for gym rental. Embroidery. Alternate shooting shirts. Insurance. Balls. It all adds up. Craziest amount I heard a few years back was some team from Iowa where each kid paid something like over $3,000 or $4,000. I believe it was year round and they had 24/7 gym access, but that blew my mind.
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The 'dumpster' comment was about as funny as it was clever.
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I would say most of the sponsorship is through gear (uniforms, shoes, warmups, etc.). The rest is on the team (parents). For instance, the five hs NY2LA tourney's cost $2400 - $2600 (for all of them). Add some out of state tourneys, hotels, travel, etc. and you can see it add up quickly. I would say team fees in the area range from $500 - $1,000 per kid. That would be in line with WI Shooters, WI Swing, Playground Wariors, Ray Allen, DTA, Playground Elite. In high school, a lot of teams finish their season in Las Vegas at the Fab 48, Las Vegas Classic, Adidas Uprising, etc. Just imagine the costs of just getting there. All programs try to do some amount of fundraising, but it is difficult. Obviously, the better the team, the more elite tourneys they enter. That is where the heavy travel and sponsorship really come in. And I think that was my point from earlier -- Diamond (and high-level dudes like him) aren't worrying about how to get to Nike Peach Jam or UA's Jayhawk Invitation and where they can get a $45 room rate like most. I can only speak for myself -- at good AAU program like those listed above, the team budget will be $10,000 and that doesn't include major travel, hotel, expenses. Some groups pay coaches. Some pay for coaches' travel and meals. Some pay for gym rental. Embroidery. Alternate shooting shirts. Insurance. Balls. It all adds up. Craziest amount I heard a few years back was some team from Iowa where each kid paid something like over $3,000 or $4,000. I believe it was year round and they had 24/7 gym access, but that blew my mind.
Interesting stuff.
Answered a lot of questions I had on how the kids do this.
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I get the feeling Brenna Ryan is just trolling.
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Her twitter saying is "Smell my Finger."
With comments like that, calling her a cum dumpster is probably nothing new to her.
That dude in the twitter photo is probably just happy that diamond won't be around to smell that finger.
Grown men calling a teenage girl a slut is always a classy move.
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Her twitter saying is "Smell my Finger."
With comments like that, calling her a cum dumpster is probably nothing new to her.
That dude in the twitter photo is probably just happy that diamond won't be around to smell that finger.
Seriously? Wow. Classy chick. ::)
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Just going on limited personal experience. There are a lot of sponsors who give money here and there, but pretty much most teams charge a team fee to the player cover items like travel, tourney fees, and some gear. I know a lot of sponsors locally like Devin Harris, Joe Pryzbilla and Ray Allen give gear, or a little bit of money. The gear is typically given by the NBA player's shoe sponsor. (So Harris gives his team adidas and Allen gives Jordan). My point was (and perhaps I didn't make it clear enough), when you have a guy like Diamond, Under Armour comes in a pays for EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN legally -- beyond the "typical" sponsorship. The kind of sponsorship that happens to "big-name players." That doesn't happen to many teams; most teams get a little sponsorship...
OK. I thought when you said, "Most sponsors like UA, Jordan, Adidas, only sponsor teams that have big-name players" you meant that "Most sponsors like UA, Jordan, Adidas, only sponsor teams that have big-name players." I understand now that's not what you meant.
Yes, it can be a bit of a.... business. And it's not just shoe companies.
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Their reaction and hatred towards an 18 year old high schooler gives me even more reason to say this tonight..... GO ZONA!!!!!!!!!
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Let's clear a few things up.
Yes Bo wanted Diamond badly.
Yes by all accounts he verballed before the end of '14 and was admitted last week
What happened after that nobody knows..but I suspect it is about shoes. UW will move on.
The graduation stuff is ridiculous. The guy quoted a 2004 -2007 report which was admittedly not good.
That class had 2 transfers who were morons. Whether they left in good standing I don't know.
Since then all but 2 African American players have graduated. Tucker. Landry, Flowers, Evans, Taylor and Wilson. IIRC the only players to NOT graduate are Kam Taylor and Hughes. So STOP with the zero percent stuff, it only makes you look silly.
A local, bitter, lazy liberal columnist for the equally lazy, liberal Boston Globe took and old report and made it look current. There is a lot of much more current APR information around that he chose to ignore.
The 6 year rule is what it is. But 3 players who played in the NBA and overseas came back to finish a few credits. Landry Tucker Flowers.
The graduation rate for UW players is actually very good. It doesn't matter how the NCAA measures it. Facts are facts. All the UWMilwaukee reporter had to do was hit "google" but he was either too lazy or had an agenda.
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Let's clear a few things up.
Yes Bo wanted Diamond badly.
Yes by all accounts he verballed before the end of '14 and was admitted last week
What happened after that nobody knows..but I suspect it is about shoes. UW will move on.
The graduation stuff is ridiculous. The guy quoted a 2004 -2007 report which was admittedly not good.
That class had 2 transfers who were morons. Whether they left in good standing I don't know.
Since then all but 2 African American players have graduated. Tucker. Landry, Flowers, Evans, Taylor and Wilson. IIRC the only players to NOT graduate are Kam Taylor and Hughes. So STOP with the zero percent stuff, it only makes you look silly.
A local, bitter, lazy liberal columnist for the equally lazy, liberal Boston Globe took and old report and made it look current. There is a lot of much more current APR information around that he chose to ignore.
The 6 year rule is what it is. But 3 players who played in the NBA and overseas came back to finish a few credits. Landry Tucker Flowers.
The graduation rate for UW players is actually very good. It doesn't matter how the NCAA measures it. Facts are facts. All the UWMilwaukee reporter had to do was hit "google" but he was either too lazy or had an agenda.
Don't get dizzy from all that spinning.
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Don't get dizzy from all that spinning.
He's 100% accurate. That's doesn't mean the report was wrong - the report was objectively correct given the parameters it measured. But his explanation is accurate.
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He's 100% accurate. That's doesn't mean the report was wrong - the report was objectively correct given the parameters it measured. But his explanation is accurate.
Yes. The report WAS correct. Although old and nuanced.
I don't care except about the chest puffing crowing about ZERO BLACK GRADUATION rate. Because it simply isn't close to true.
I don't know a lot about MU's graduation numbers but I dont base t on a small window that includes Blue and Crowder.
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The graduation stuff is ridiculous. The guy quoted a 2004 -2007 report which was admittedly not good.
That class had 2 transfers who were morons. Whether they left in good standing I don't know.
Since then all but 2 African American players have graduated. Tucker. Landry, Flowers, Evans, Taylor and Wilson. IIRC the only players to NOT graduate are Kam Taylor and Hughes. So STOP with the zero percent stuff, it only makes you look silly.
A local, bitter, lazy liberal columnist for the equally lazy, liberal Boston Globe took and old report and made it look current. There is a lot of much more current APR information around that he chose to ignore.
The 6 year rule is what it is. But 3 players who played in the NBA and overseas came back to finish a few credits. Landry Tucker Flowers.
The graduation rate for UW players is actually very good. It doesn't matter how the NCAA measures it. Facts are facts. All the UWMilwaukee reporter had to do was hit "google" but he was either too lazy or had an agenda.
Two thoughts. First, someone supporting UW-Madison blaming liberals for their problems is like Bill O'Reilly blaming conservatives for what's wrong in America.
Second, the other schools are graduating their guys in 6 years, why can't you? You may not like the NCAA or how the numbers are gathered, but the bottom line is UW-Madison plays by the same rules everyone else does and comes up way short.
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He's 100% accurate. That's doesn't mean the report was wrong - the report was objectively correct given the parameters it measured. But his explanation is accurate.
Are we sure about that? My understanding is that the numbers he looked at was the NCAA's GSR Report and looked at the freshman classes from 2004-2007, which had 6 years to obtain their degree from their school (so the freshman class of 2007 would have until May 2014 to obtain their degree). It was not an outdated report from 2004-2007. It was the freshman classes, since their 6 years finished in 2014, or last year. They can't put out the report for this year because the school year has not ended yet. So next year's report will look at the freshman classes of 2005-2008. The freshman class of 2005 has until May 2012 to get their degree, the freshman class of 2008 has until May 2015 to complete their degree, etc. Maybe I'm looking at it completely wrong, but that's what seems to be what the report is looking at if you go to the link that the reporter provides and search each school's GSR Report.
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Well I will say the program has produced a lot of Overseas type players. They chase the dream, make some$$ and come back. As an alum its fine with me.
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Are we sure about that? My understanding is that the numbers he looked at was the NCAA's GSR Report and looked at the freshman classes from 2004-2007, which had 6 years to obtain their degree from their school (so the freshman class of 2007 would have until May 2014 to obtain their degree). It was not an outdated report from 2004-2007. It was the freshman classes, since their 6 years finished in 2014, or last year. They can't put out the report for this year because the school year has not ended yet. So next year's report will look at the freshman classes of 2005-2008. The freshman class of 2005 has until May 2012 to get their degree, the freshman class of 2008 has until May 2015 to complete their degree, etc. Maybe I'm looking at it completely wrong, but that's what seems to be what the report is looking at if you go to the link that the reporter provides and search each school's GSR Report.
100% correct, the report IS the latest info.
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100% correct, the report IS the latest info.
So I guess that means the reporter is a hardworking liberal.
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Well I will say the program has produced a lot of Overseas type players. They chase the dream, make some$$ and come back. As an alum its fine with me.
Yeah, most high majors do. UW-Madison is still dead last. Overseas players aren't preventing the other 67 NCAA teams from having better graduation rates, so that's a BS excuse.
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Dead last? Prove it.
With some relatively current data.
Bitter jealously is a bad emotion Heisy
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Let's clear a few things up.
Yes Bo wanted Diamond badly.
Yes by all accounts he verballed before the end of '14 and was admitted last week
What happened after that nobody knows..but I suspect it is about shoes. UW will move on.
The graduation stuff is ridiculous. The guy quoted a 2004 -2007 report which was admittedly not good.
That class had 2 transfers who were morons. Whether they left in good standing I don't know.
Since then all but 2 African American players have graduated. Tucker. Landry, Flowers, Evans, Taylor and Wilson. IIRC the only players to NOT graduate are Kam Taylor and Hughes. So STOP with the zero percent stuff, it only makes you look silly.
A local, bitter, lazy liberal columnist for the equally lazy, liberal Boston Globe took and old report and made it look current. There is a lot of much more current APR information around that he chose to ignore.
The 6 year rule is what it is. But 3 players who played in the NBA and overseas came back to finish a few credits. Landry Tucker Flowers.
The graduation rate for UW players is actually very good. It doesn't matter how the NCAA measures it. Facts are facts. All the UWMilwaukee reporter had to do was hit "google" but he was either too lazy or had an agenda.
Always an excuse with you....always. It can never be about someone not wanting to go to Wisconsin....instead it's because of Wes's mom, shoes, someone paid, academics, etc....it's never the most obvious....they didn't want to go there. Occam's Razor.
Good to see you here on a day you go to the Final Four....worrying about your rival and what they say. Classic.
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Dead last? Prove it.
With some relatively current data.
Bitter jealously is a bad emotion Heisy
It is the current data. Look above. Love the attempt to spin it though.
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He's 100% accurate. That's doesn't mean the report was wrong - the report was objectively correct given the parameters it measured. But his explanation is accurate.
How is it accurate? Student athletes are allowed 6 years to graduate and be counted as graduating in the mandated time period. They haven't Now, these kids may ultimately end up graduating, but no in the time period every other school is measured by.
Now, the conspiracy theory of Under Armor paying for the kid's father to go play for Maryland....it's always nonsense with Badger fans. Always. I actually love their team...it's such a good team....their fans remain a bunch of bag of dicks.
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Are we sure about that? My understanding is that the numbers he looked at was the NCAA's GSR Report and looked at the freshman classes from 2004-2007, which had 6 years to obtain their degree from their school (so the freshman class of 2007 would have until May 2014 to obtain their degree). It was not an outdated report from 2004-2007. It was the freshman classes, since their 6 years finished in 2014, or last year. They can't put out the report for this year because the school year has not ended yet. So next year's report will look at the freshman classes of 2005-2008. The freshman class of 2005 has until May 2012 to get their degree, the freshman class of 2008 has until May 2015 to complete their degree, etc. Maybe I'm looking at it completely wrong, but that's what seems to be what the report is looking at if you go to the link that the reporter provides and search each school's GSR Report.
Believe this is correct. If I understand, the gripe with the NCAA methodology has always been:
1) Using 2004 freshmen, it encompasses data from students who may have graduated in 2008 as an input to a "current" calculation, which for a lot of schools is too long ago to reflect the current environment. Even for us, is the fact that Ousmane Barro, Dan Fitzgerald, Trend Blackledge and Tommy Brice graduated an indication of our current academic progress? It was two coaches, Presidents, and ADs ago...so, not really. A current picture would probably move up a couple years. Though for a school whose coach and AD has been the same all along, maybe more valid.
2) It ignores recent graduates, which are a very real indication of current academic progress. Because the six year clock isn't up, those who graduated in four or five in just the past couple years aren't part of the calculation. Shouldn't it count for something now that Junior Cadougan, Chris Otule, Davante Gardner, Jake Thomas, and Jamil Wilson graduated, and not something that is still a year or two off from being part of a "current" academic progress metric?
What the UW hissy fit about the article has been incorrect about is:
1) Denial that it has any merit on academic progress. Being that bad is something to be concerned about, and hopefully give a long, hard look at the current state to make sure progress is being made. Said in another thread, but our 87% even shows room for improvement - we had a nice streak for some time of reporting 100%. Some of the internal strife within the last regime seems to indicate that going in the wrong direction (even that little bit) was a concern that some felt needed to be addressed.
2) It penalizes their players, who all "go pro". How many high major players don't spend at least a couple years playing overseas? Yet it isn't an issue for other programs to help their players earn degrees within the time period allotted.
3) The Harvard of the Midwest has a more difficult curriculum, with players in programs that aren't the cakewalk of other schools. Yes, the agricultural journalism program craps all over anything the other six Big Ten schools in the tournament offer, as well as the cakewalks players have at academically-challenged schools like Notre Dame, Duke, and Georgetown. ::)
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I know you are better than this Jamie,
No excuses. Just facts. Do you really want to compare recent grad rates?
I have no idea what happened with DS. I only care a little.
The train will stay on the tracks.
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Dead last? Prove it.
With some relatively current data.
Bitter jealously is a bad emotion Heisy
68/68. Come on, the article was published this week. Don't pretend it isn't common knowledge.
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68/68. Come on, the article was published this week. Don't pretend it isn't common knowledge.
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68/68. Come on, the article was published this week. Don't pretend it isn't common knowledge.
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Published this week with old news
Only 2 African American players have NOT graduated since 2004. How is your record?
BTW NIgel Hayes and Vitto Brown - all Big 10 academic
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Yes, because the most current data is old news. ::)
Is it that hard to admit that Bo has had a poor track record in this regard?
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And amusing, as CBB noted, that you guys are celebrating your Final Four trolling a Marquette website.
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Yes, because the most current data is old news. ::)
Is it that hard to admit that Bo has had a poor track record in this regard?
Yes. Because it isn't true. Is it that hard for YOU to admit that the vast majority of African American players under Bo HAVE actually graduated? Even if some after the NCAA 6 yr window?
Your turn
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Yes. Because it isn't true. Is it that hard for YOU to admit that the vast majority of African American players under Bo HAVE actually graduated? Even if some after the NCAA 6 yr window?
Your turn
Tommy: You know, a lot of people go to college for seven years.
Richard: I know. They're called doctors.
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And amusing, as CBB noted, that you guys are celebrating your Final Four trolling a Marquette website.
I am not trolling. I am annoyed by a completely false narrative regarding graduation rates. Facts are facts.
I have no interest in talking about tonight's results. That doesn't matter in this discussion.Only the facts matter.
refute them if you choose.
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I am not trolling. I am annoyed by a completely false narrative regarding graduation rates. Facts are facts.
I have no interest in talking about tonight's results. That doesn't matter in this discussion.Only the facts matter.
refute them if you choose.
Yeah, like the fact that most schools have no problem getting their basketball players to graduate in the allotted 6 year window. Evidently only 40% of Madison's players have been able to do that.
Facts are facts. They're all that matter. Refute them if you chose.
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I am not trolling. I am annoyed by a completely false narrative regarding graduation rates. Facts are facts.
I have no interest in talking about tonight's results. That doesn't matter in this discussion.Only the facts matter.
refute them if you choose.
So you are doing this on all the Big Ten sites....all those "rivals" you have...trying to set the record straight (even though the record is correct)?? Again, you just went to back to back Final Fours and you are here on a Marquette board.....says EVERYTHING.
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BangBang...I am...........you know the rest.....and Victory is mine.....especially on that douchiest of sites known as the VictoryLap, or something. Let's just say Badger Nation is a vile, classless, libelous Village where decency goes to die. This pending Diamond Stone libel suit perfectly ferments the Wes Matthews/Vander Blue SOUR GRAPES label emanating from Bo's Madison vineyard. It appears that many people on that VictoryCrap website are starting to see BigRed for the whiny, sanctimonious, unprofessional, outright hostile community it is and will forever be.
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I am not trolling. I am annoyed by a completely false narrative regarding graduation rates. Facts are facts.
I have no interest in talking about tonight's results. That doesn't matter in this discussion.Only the facts matter.
refute them if you choose.
This should end all this silliness: UW had Donna Shalala when it was indefensible. MU had father Groppi when it was stylish and sophisticated. End of discussion.
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Day away from the board.
So, Diamond to Maryland? What happened to UConn?
Miss a little miss a lot.
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BangBang...I am...........you know the rest.....and Victory is mine.....especially on that douchiest of sites known as the VictoryLap, or something. Let's just say Badger Nation is a vile, classless, libelous Village where decency goes to die. This pending Diamond Stone libel suit perfectly ferments the Wes Matthews/Vander Blue SOUR GRAPES label emanating from Bo's Madison vineyard. It appears that many people on that VictoryCrap website are starting to see BigRed for the whiny, sanctimonious, unprofessional, outright hostile community it is and will forever be.
There is no Diamond Stone libel suit, but otherwise you are correct.
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Day away from the board.
So, Diamond to Maryland? What happened to UConn?
Miss a little miss a lot.
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No dialogue about UConn. Supposedly about Md being an Underarmor school. His AAU team was UA sponsored.
Bucky fans claiming Stone verballed to Bo last fall, pending good ACT. Heads now exploding. Many accusations, including Stone's dad getting paid by UA. Also, Bo's daughter making public statements about Stone. Weird.
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Let's clear a few things up.
Yes Bo wanted Diamond badly.
Yes by all accounts he verballed before the end of '14 and was admitted last week
What happened after that nobody knows..but I suspect it is about shoes. UW will move on.
The graduation stuff is ridiculous. The guy quoted a 2004 -2007 report which was admittedly not good.
That class had 2 transfers who were morons. Whether they left in good standing I don't know.
Since then all but 2 African American players have graduated. Tucker. Landry, Flowers, Evans, Taylor and Wilson. IIRC the only players to NOT graduate are Kam Taylor and Hughes. So STOP with the zero percent stuff, it only makes you look silly.
A local, bitter, lazy liberal columnist for the equally lazy, liberal Boston Globe took and old report and made it look current. There is a lot of much more current APR information around that he chose to ignore.
The 6 year rule is what it is. But 3 players who played in the NBA and overseas came back to finish a few credits. Landry Tucker Flowers.
The graduation rate for UW players is actually very good. It doesn't matter how the NCAA measures it. Facts are facts. All the UWMilwaukee reporter had to do was hit "google" but he was either too lazy or had an agenda.
I think added context is important, so you bring up some good points.
However, the numbers are what they are. It's a snapshot in time, and its a scale for being compared to other schools.
During this snapshot in time (under Bo's tenure), they have the lowest Graduation Success Rate for black men of zero and the third-lowest overall at 40 percent. These are in direct comparison to their peers in the tournament.
So, we may need to dig deeper and maybe UW's numbers aren't quite that bad (as you have shown above)... but they still aren't good.
Bo is a fantastic coach, and overall the program is very good/great, but let's not make excuses. The academic side was/is surprisingly poor. That's a fact.
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The "academics" topic on Diamond's decision is on WTMJ right now (Wisconsin Sports Weekend).
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I am not trolling. I am annoyed by a completely false narrative regarding graduation rates. Facts are facts.
Facts are facts. The facts are that under the same standard everyone else is judged by, Wisconsin came up woefully short over that period. UW knows, Bo knows, the staff knows, and the students know they will be judged on their ability to graduate within a six year time period. It is the responsibility of all those involved to try to graduate those players during that time. In this regard, Wisconsin failed.
You mentioned future numbers. That's fine. None of these numbers include the Buzz Williams recruiting years. Once those numbers come out, I have little doubt that Wisconsin's numbers will look at least marginally better, while ours will look dramatically worse. Buzz did not do a good job of keeping his players on track to graduate. While there are many that did succeed in that regard (Butler, Otule, Cadougan, Jake, Gardner, etc) there are many that did not, at least in comparison to the years under Tom Crean.
So yes, your time will likely come to gloat that your numbers are better than ours. I also have a feeling that with Wojo's shift in recruiting focus, that will be a relatively short time period. But as of right now, the most current numbers are endemic of UW and Bo Ryan's ability to graduate his players within the 6-year period analyzed by the NCAA.
Facts are facts.
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The "academics" topic on Diamond's decision is on WTMJ right now (Wisconsin Sports Weekend).
Can you summarize for us?
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The "academics" topic on Diamond's decision is on WTMJ right now (Wisconsin Sports Weekend).
A high school kid's grades are the topic of TV news in Milwaukee?
Sheesh.
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The "academics" topic on Diamond's decision is on WTMJ right now (Wisconsin Sports Weekend).
The full PR campaign to defend UW-madison and why kids have chosen not to go there....marches on.
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Can you summarize for us?
I only listened for a minute... topic was introduced by the host and after a couple callers proud that WI has standards, blah blah blah, I tuned out. No direct statements about Diamond failing to get admitted but a clear undertone during the part I caught. Frankly, will be interesting to see how long Diamond and his crew stay above the fray if they can show this had nothing to do with his decision.
Also - it was radio (620 am) and not tv.
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Diamond should sue the hell out of UW (either libel or violation of FERPA for Bo's daughters statements) and libel for all the media saying he didn't qualify/wisconsin standards.
I feel for the kid.
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Facts are facts. The facts are that under the same standard everyone else is judged by, Wisconsin came up woefully short over that period. UW knows, Bo knows, the staff knows, and the students know they will be judged on their ability to graduate within a six year time period. It is the responsibility of all those involved to try to graduate those players during that time. In this regard, Wisconsin failed.
You mentioned future numbers. That's fine. None of these numbers include the Buzz Williams recruiting years. Once those numbers come out, I have little doubt that Wisconsin's numbers will look at least marginally better, while ours will look dramatically worse. Buzz did not do a good job of keeping his players on track to graduate. While there are many that did succeed in that regard (Butler, Otule, Cadougan, Jake, Gardner, etc) there are many that did not, at least in comparison to the years under Tom Crean.
So yes, your time will likely come to gloat that your numbers are better than ours. I also have a feeling that with Wojo's shift in recruiting focus, that will be a relatively short time period. But as of right now, the most current numbers are endemic of UW and Bo Ryan's ability to graduate his players within the 6-year period analyzed by the NCAA.
Facts are facts.
This is so true.
So ButchBadger, instead of complaining that his school needs to do a better job, basically says we need to change how this is calculated beyond 6 years so UW looks better.. Six years is enough time and the standard used even in non-athletic situations to get a pretty good idea of what is going on. Plus, if you extend it out more than 6 years, all but those schools at the top (e.g already at 100%) would have their percentages increase. Can we extend it out to 7 or 10 years when Buzz's players are considered in this metric to make MU look better? I'm sure ButchBadger will argue for MU at that time and let us analysis who graduates after 6 years on their own dime.
UW is no Northwestern or those type of schools that take academics amongst athletes seriously. UW may want to pretend, but they are not. And they never will be if UW fans are nothing but dupes for the program and make excuses. Sack up and let Bo and Co know that this is not acceptable and they need to pay attention and take academics seriously. Plenty at MU did just that over Buzz and their is a marked change in how he program is run that he didn't like and a marked change in the how the new coach was chosen.
Anyway, a big reason Buzz didn't feel like he was wanted at MU anymore, and had an arm in his back pushing him out, was because of the academics. People were upset and complained. Rightfully so. MU has always been a tougher job because you have to win on the court and in the classroom. The MU fans and administration won't take just a winner on the court as was shown with the AD change to Larry and Buzz's end. Buzz was superior on the court and was only average off the court. Not good enough. MU will look bad in a few years because of how Buzz ran the program off the court. MU dealt with it. UW should also deal with it. Making excuses makes UW look bad.
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I have been a bit out of the loop for a couple of days. Did Bo's daughter really call into question Stone's academics? Are her tweets still up? If so that would seem to point towards Bo being OK with her tweets. This seems in very poor taste.
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I have been a bit out of the loop for a couple of days. Did Bo's daughter really call into question Stone's academics? Are her tweets still up? If so that would seem to point towards Bo being OK with her tweets. This seems in very poor taste.
In fairness to Mr. Grinch, he's probably got more important things on his mind than what his idiot daughter is tweeting.
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I have been a bit out of the loop for a couple of days. Did Bo's daughter really call into question Stone's academics? Are her tweets still up? If so that would seem to point towards Bo being OK with her tweets. This seems in very poor taste.
Who's to say Bo doesn't endorse the tweets? Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Is it true about Stone's dad getting a job with UA?
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Is it true about Stone's dad getting a lob with UA?
Rumor thus far. It wouldn't shock me, but that's not usually how these things are handled.
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Is that why MU backed out? No need to respond. PM if interested in sharing more.
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I have been a bit out of the loop for a couple of days. Did Bo's daughter really call into question Stone's academics? Are her tweets still up? If so that would seem to point towards Bo being OK with her tweets. This seems in very poor taste.
The tweets are on pages 15 and 16, I posted them. She Claims first hand knowledge of DS's recruiting and what could be taken as a racist remark about Bucky's #whitebballsucess
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I am not trolling. I am annoyed by a completely false narrative regarding graduation rates. Facts are facts.
I have no interest in talking about tonight's results. That doesn't matter in this discussion.Only the facts matter.
refute them if you choose.
Except you keep stating falsehoods. For instance, you state Landry graduated. He never did.
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https://twitter.com/MazosBurger
Well done Willie! I don't even do Twitter and I found you!
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https://twitter.com/MazosBurger
Well done Willie! I don't even do Twitter and I found you!
Alls I can say is that "down home phony lonesome cowboy" better make this year's meme tournament.
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https://twitter.com/MazosBurger
Well done Willie! I don't even do Twitter and I found you!
Funny, I never took Willie to be a buff Serbian dude who has a love of battleships
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Funny, I never took Willie to be a buff Serbian dude who has a love of battleships
I do dig battleships, but aircraft carriers are closes to my heart. I do not tweet, but mazo burger is obviously well informed.
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I do dig battleships, but aircraft carriers are closes to my heart. I do not tweet, but mazo burger is obviously well informed.
Hah. Good effort. Multiple references to Buzz's panic room and the lonesome phony cowboy or whatever you call him. There is nobody in he world who it could be besides you. But good effort.
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If only willie were the internet meme "Grumpy Russian Traveler": http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/the-worlds-grumpiest-traveler#.lcRBq7zgGN
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Hah. Good effort. Multiple references to Buzz's panic room and the lonesome phony cowboy or whatever you call him. There is nobody in he world who it could be besides you. But good effort.
This.
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I do dig battleships, but aircraft carriers are closes to my heart. I do not tweet, but mazo burger is obviously well informed.
Willie, if that were me, *I* would claim it in a New York minute. That is really awesome.
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Funny, I never took Willie to be a buff Serbian dude who has a love of battleships
Really, how else could you describe willie??
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Is it true about Stone's dad getting a job with UA?
No, just people on the internet starting rumors and claiming they know things, because its the internet and they can.
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No, just people on the internet starting rumors and claiming they know things, because its the internet and they can.
Watch which shoe company Stone signs with in about 12 months.
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Watch which shoe company Stone signs with in about 12 months.
So? Your comment is pretty much exactly what I am talking about, people just don't understand how things work but they can be lazy and attempt to connect dots and create storylines. Somehow "shoes" only seem to exist when Maryland is involved when a high school prospect that plays for an Under Armour team. Never a story otherwise for some reason. Probably because the easy/lazy narrative isn't there.
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So? Your comment is pretty much exactly what I am talking about, people just don't understand how things work but they can be lazy and attempt to connect dots and create storylines. Somehow "shoes" only seem to exist when Maryland is involved when a high school prospect that plays for an Under Armour team. Never a story otherwise for some reason. Probably because the easy/lazy narrative isn't there.
So you're a Maryland fan. You will have a good team next year.
Between Maryland being a top competitor next year, and Stone's pending shoe contract, it's no surprise.
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So? Your comment is pretty much exactly what I am talking about, people just don't understand how things work but they can be lazy and attempt to connect dots and create storylines. Somehow "shoes" only seem to exist when Maryland is involved when a high school prospect that plays for an Under Armour team. Never a story otherwise for some reason. Probably because the easy/lazy narrative isn't there.
That's not true at all. Not close. You think shoe companies aren't part of Kentucky's recruiting? You think UCLA hasn't benefited from adidas despite marginal on court results? You think Emmanuel Mudiay initially committing to SMU was coincidence?
It's not just Maryland. It's everywhere across college basketball. Just because you benefit from a shoe company sponsorship doesn't make you unique. There's nothing technically illegal about it. Look at who top recruits play AAU for, look where they commit, believe me, you'll find the connections easy enough.
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Shoe companies have been pulling strings behind the scenes on college basketball and recruiting for 30+ years (thank you, Sonny Vaccaro).
None of this is new or remotely surprising.
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So? Your comment is pretty much exactly what I am talking about, people just don't understand how things work but they can be lazy and attempt to connect dots and create storylines. Somehow "shoes" only seem to exist when Maryland is involved when a high school prospect that plays for an Under Armour team. Never a story otherwise for some reason. Probably because the easy/lazy narrative isn't there.
You don't pay enough attention then. Many top level players sign with schools with shoe companies that also sponsor their AAU team - and then go sign with that shoe company in the pros. It isn't "lazy." It's accurate.
Now did Stone's dad get a job out of it? Doubtful. However, I have no doubt that the AAU and Maryland being sponsored by UA isn't a coincidence.
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Did Diamond's father Bob just take a shot at Bo? (highlighted below)
Diamond Stone chooses Maryland
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/diamond-stone-chooses-maryland-b99470549z1-297856071.html
Diamond Stone had made up his mind.
On Friday the Dominican High School senior told his father, Bob, that he'd decided where he wanted to play his college basketball. Bob Stone suggested his son sleep on it, but Diamond said he was sure. Bob Stone asked his son if he wanted to make the announcement at school in front of his classmates, but Diamond wasn't interested.
"He didn't want none of the fanfare; he just wanted to make his decision and he was emphatic," Bob Stone said. "I always told him we picked four real good schools (as finalists), and I always told him that whatever school you pick I'll be supportive."
And so at 7:30 p.m. Friday, Diamond Stone took to his Twitter account (All Eyes on Me@Diamond_Stone33) and sent the following:
I Am Committing To The University Of Maryland #Terps.
And then, according to Bob Stone, Diamond went to hang out with his friends and wasn't available for comment. On Saturday, he heads to Chicago to take part in the McDonald's All-American game festivities.
Stone's final four schools also included Wisconsin, Connecticut and Oklahoma State. He can make his commitment binding during the spring signing period, which begins April 15.
The announcement ends the recruitment of one of the best prep players the state has produced, a two-time gold medalist with USA Basketball who led Dominican to its fourth straight Division 4 state title last week.
He averaged 24.6 points, 11.9 rebounds, three blocks and 1.4 assists per game for the Knights, who finished 25-3.
For the Badgers, the announcement marked another time when they've come close to oh-so-close to getting a commitment from an elite prospect from the area. Last year, McDonald's All-American Kevon Looney (Milwaukee Hamilton) chose UCLA, and three years ago, Menomonee Falls' J.P. Tokoto chose North Carolina.
There has been some speculation that academic reasons would keep Stone from UW, an assertion that Bob Stone denied.
"As of tonight until Diamond told me he was going to make his decision, UW was still on the table," Bob Stone said. "They were in full effect."
Diamond Stone's ranks as the No. 4 prospect in the nation for the 2015 class, according to scout.com. Rivals.com has him ranked sixth and ESPN seventh in the class.
All those sites list Stone as a center, but his father, who has guided his development, thinks he can play power forward.
"He can face up and he can make a couple of dribbles and finish and he can post up, so I think they'll probably play him at a four," Bob Stone said.
At Maryland, Diamond Stone will play for Mark Turgeon, who just completed his fourth season, and he'll play with a team that is expected to return former McDonald's All-American Melo Trimble.
"He seems to have an affection for his players," Bob Stone said of Turgeon. "He's a laid back guy. He's not all that flamboyant. He seems to connect very well with his players. We watched him with Melo Trimble, and he let Melo Trimble play through some mistakes.
"We went there. Nice campus, great area. They have a good team coming back."
Bob Stone declined to say much about his son's recruitment by Wisconsin or any of the other finalists.
"I'm not getting into anything about any of the coaches or any of the schools because I love them, and I know people will try to pick what you say apart and read between the lines," he said.
"I don't want anything I say misconstrued or used as a negative because Bo (Ryan) is a great guy; he has a great program. He's going to be playing on TV tomorrow in the Elite Eight....Diamond just decided to go somewhere else."
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Trolls from the Maryland board are on the badger board saying UMD has a harder admission standard than Bucky and UMD has higher overall SAT among incoming freshman (1310 v 1280).
They are contending, like Diamond's dad above, that he qualified for both schools and picked the program that better suited him.
Let me come back to the issue that everyone dances around. "Inner city kids" are told by their peers that Bucky is a "white program" which is why Bucky perceptually finishes second among inner city kids.
That is why the 0% black graduation rate and Bo daughter Breena tweet calling Bucky's win "#whitebballsucess can really hurt him Bo in the long run trying to get inner city kids. It cements the belief that Bucky is not a place for black players.
(For Brandx ... if I or any anonymous person notes Bucky as a "white team" it is essentially meaningless. But when the coaches daughter to tweet it out, that "sticks.")
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Trolls from the Maryland board are on the badger board saying UMD has a harder admission standard than Bucky and UMD has higher overall SAT among incoming freshman (1310 v 1280).
They are contending, like Diamond's dad above, that he qualified for both schools and picked the program that better suited him.
Let me come back to the issue that everyone dances around. "Inner city kids" are told by their peers that Bucky is a "white program" which is why Bucky perceptually finishes second among inner city kids.
That is why the 0% black graduation rate and Bo daughter Breena tweet calling Bucky's win "#whitebballsucess can really hurt him Bo in the long run trying to get inner city kids. It cements the belief that Bucky is not a place for black players.
(For Brandx ... if I or any anonymous person notes Bucky as a "white team" it is essentially meaningless. But when the coaches daughter to tweet it out, that "sticks.")
Exactly the case.
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Am I the only one whose reaction to this is grudging respect for UW that they didn't just automatically accept her, as Bo's kid?
I would have just assumed that every university vip gets their kids in automatically.
Usually legacies are asked to pledge automatically.
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Did Diamond's father Bob just take a shot at Bo? (highlighted below)
Diamond Stone chooses Maryland
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/diamond-stone-chooses-maryland-b99470549z1-297856071.html
Diamond Stone had made up his mind.
On Friday the Dominican High School senior told his father, Bob, that he'd decided where he wanted to play his college basketball. Bob Stone suggested his son sleep on it, but Diamond said he was sure. Bob Stone asked his son if he wanted to make the announcement at school in front of his classmates, but Diamond wasn't interested.
"He didn't want none of the fanfare; he just wanted to make his decision and he was emphatic," Bob Stone said. "I always told him we picked four real good schools (as finalists), and I always told him that whatever school you pick I'll be supportive."
And so at 7:30 p.m. Friday, Diamond Stone took to his Twitter account (All Eyes on Me@Diamond_Stone33) and sent the following:
I Am Committing To The University Of Maryland #Terps.
And then, according to Bob Stone, Diamond went to hang out with his friends and wasn't available for comment. On Saturday, he heads to Chicago to take part in the McDonald's All-American game festivities.
Stone's final four schools also included Wisconsin, Connecticut and Oklahoma State. He can make his commitment binding during the spring signing period, which begins April 15.
The announcement ends the recruitment of one of the best prep players the state has produced, a two-time gold medalist with USA Basketball who led Dominican to its fourth straight Division 4 state title last week.
He averaged 24.6 points, 11.9 rebounds, three blocks and 1.4 assists per game for the Knights, who finished 25-3.
For the Badgers, the announcement marked another time when they've come close to oh-so-close to getting a commitment from an elite prospect from the area. Last year, McDonald's All-American Kevon Looney (Milwaukee Hamilton) chose UCLA, and three years ago, Menomonee Falls' J.P. Tokoto chose North Carolina.
There has been some speculation that academic reasons would keep Stone from UW, an assertion that Bob Stone denied.
"As of tonight until Diamond told me he was going to make his decision, UW was still on the table," Bob Stone said. "They were in full effect."
Diamond Stone's ranks as the No. 4 prospect in the nation for the 2015 class, according to scout.com. Rivals.com has him ranked sixth and ESPN seventh in the class.
All those sites list Stone as a center, but his father, who has guided his development, thinks he can play power forward.
"He can face up and he can make a couple of dribbles and finish and he can post up, so I think they'll probably play him at a four," Bob Stone said.
At Maryland, Diamond Stone will play for Mark Turgeon, who just completed his fourth season, and he'll play with a team that is expected to return former McDonald's All-American Melo Trimble.
"He seems to have an affection for his players," Bob Stone said of Turgeon. "He's a laid back guy. He's not all that flamboyant. He seems to connect very well with his players. We watched him with Melo Trimble, and he let Melo Trimble play through some mistakes.
"We went there. Nice campus, great area. They have a good team coming back."
Bob Stone declined to say much about his son's recruitment by Wisconsin or any of the other finalists.
"I'm not getting into anything about any of the coaches or any of the schools because I love them, and I know people will try to pick what you say apart and read between the lines," he said.
"I don't want anything I say misconstrued or used as a negative because Bo (Ryan) is a great guy; he has a great program. He's going to be playing on TV tomorrow in the Elite Eight....Diamond just decided to go somewhere else."
One can parse any quote for hidden meanings. I didn't read that thinking, "Oh, what a slam of Bo!"
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One can parse any quote for hidden meanings. I didn't read that thinking, "Oh, what a slam of Bo!"
Yeah, just sounds like a recruit's dad saying some boilerplate nice things about his son's new coach to me.
I imagine it is very stressful for a kid with Stone's options to pick a school. It's ridiculous that fans of any particular program should bash an 18 year-old kid in a public forum simply for selecting a school different than the one they would have liked. Good luck to the kid.