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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MUchamp22 on March 10, 2015, 11:15:19 AM
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Wojo went out there and got us a 4 star point guard! Officially announced a couple minutes ago. Let me be the first to welcome you to the MU family Traci! Can't wait to see you here next year!
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Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop 32s32 seconds ago
BREAKING: 2015 Life Center (NJ) PG Traci Carter has committed to Marquette.
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Let's add to the list of 4 year starter PGs at MU!!!!
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Wow...getting Ellenson was great but being to come in late and compete with some of the other players involved...Wojo has impressed on the recruiting trail so far.
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Welcome to the family Traci! Can't wait to see you play!
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Awesome news, welcome to MU Traci!
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LEGOOOOOO.
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Welcome to MU Traci! Can't wait to see you play. Marquette will be awesome next year!!!
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BOOM!!!
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Big get for Wojo! Very impressive. Welcome to MU, Traci.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 3m3 minutes ago
With the addition of Traci Carter, Marquette now has five-star Henry Ellenson and four four-star prospects in its 2015 recruiting class.
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're number 1!!!!
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Welcome to Warrior Nation!
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Welcome, Traci! Travis will teach you all you need to know. And congrats to Wojo! Great get.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 3m3 minutes ago
With the addition of Traci Carter, Marquette now has five-star Henry Ellenson and four four-star prospects in its 2015 recruiting class.
That's good, right?
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Time to make it a GIF party
Ain't no party like a GIF party
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Big time!
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Welcome to the family TC.
oops, that isn't so good...
How about TC3? In hopes that he can shoot them?
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You give us a 9th seed in the BE tournament and then you go and do this...
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Wojo made up a lot of ground in a hurry to grab Carter. Impressive.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 3m3 minutes ago
With the addition of Traci Carter, Marquette now has five-star Henry Ellenson and four four-star prospects in its 2015 recruiting class.
Wow. When did Sacar get upgraded? Impressive.
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Welcome Traci!
The future looks very bright for Marquette.
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Wow. When did Sacar get upgraded? Impressive.
ESPN, for which Borzello works, has Sacar as a four-star. Not sure how recently that became the case.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/171456/sacar-anim
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What a great recruiting class! Hats off to Wojo on a job very well done!
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Wojo and staff sure are impressing me, the potential is off the charts!!
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It's been less than 1 year, but I'm comfortable saying that Wojo is a closer.
I have no idea if he's good at identifying talent, if he can develop that talent, and if he can retain his own players and if he can win at this level.
But, he certainly can close, and that's a pretty big part of the puzzle.
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ESPN, for which Borzello works, has Sacar as a four-star. Not sure how recently that became the case.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/171456/sacar-anim
He was before he committed at least. Scout I believe has him at 3.
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Wow. When did Sacar get upgraded? Impressive.
Translation: "What, Wojciechowski wanted him, we must have under ranked this guy."
Yeah, that is impressive. Not quite Ivan Renko impressive, but impressive still. It's nice to have an MU head coach's evaluation move the yardstick.
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Great job by Wojo and staff - if this is the kind of class he can pull in after this season and last I'm excited to see what he can do after a couple years in the NCAAs
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I have not been this excited in several years.
With what we have coming in, next year will be interesting.
2016-2017 should be exciting
2017-2018 could be monumental.
The coming years should make up for the misery of the immediate past.
Hillbilly? Who needs Hillbillies?!#@!
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It's been less than 1 year, but I'm comfortable saying that Wojo is a closer.
I have no idea if he's good at identifying talent, if he can develop that talent, and if he can retain his own players and if he can win at this level.
But, he certainly can close, and that's a pretty big part of the puzzle.
Recruiting consistently well is the single most important part of creating a winning college basketball program -- which of course you and everybody else here knows.
It is impossible to be anything but totally impressed with what Wojo has accomplished in that regard in the 11+ months he has been on the job.
Will he prove to be a great game coach? None of us can know that yet, but we all should be willing to give him a chance to grow into the position. I am on the Wojo bandwagon big-time.
Those who have spent much of the last few months savaging him have zero credibility.
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ESPN, for which Borzello works, has Sacar as a four-star. Not sure how recently that became the case.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/171456/sacar-anim
Great, though ESPN also has him rated the 36th best player at his position. They must hand out more 4 stars than other services or there are tons of really good 2 guards this year.
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Just imagine the reaction when diamond stone commits.
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Just imagine the reaction when diamond stone commits.
Your teal button is broken. ;)
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Great, though ESPN also has him rated the 36th best player at his position. They must hand out more 4 stars than other services or there are tons of really good 2 guards this year.
They have 28 shooting guards in their top 100, so 36th would place him somewhere in the 120 range, I would guess.
His overall grade (80) might place him a bit higher, given that the players ranked 90-100 all have overall grades of 81.
Either way, he, like Carter, seems to be rising in stature.
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Huge for Wojo and MU. Welcome Traci, The future is bright.
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Will he prove to be a great game coach? None of us can know that yet, but we all should be willing to give him a chance to grow into the position. I am on the Wojo bandwagon big-time.
It's a helluva lot easier to be a great game coach when you have great players. Welcome to Warrior Nation Traci. In Wojo we trust.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 3m3 minutes ago
With the addition of Traci Carter, Marquette now has five-star Henry Ellenson and four four-star prospects in its 2015 recruiting class.
Unbelievable.
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YES!!! THIS IS AMAZING!!!!!
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Another fabulous 5 perhaps with each position covered. I know, "the best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores." Huge recruit, I cant wait for Wednesday night and next year. Great job Marquette!
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Alright, alright, alright!!
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Some quicks and athleticism in the backcourt. Roster is taking shape nicely.
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Recruiting consistently well is the single most important part of creating a winning college basketball program -- which of course you and everybody else here knows.
It is impossible to be anything but totally impressed with what Wojo has accomplished in that regard in the 11+ months he has been on the job.
Will he prove to be a great game coach? None of us can know that yet, but we all should be willing to give him a chance to grow into the position. I am on the Wojo bandwagon big-time.
Those who have spent much of the last few months savaging him have zero credibility.
Based on my experience as a HS basketball player, I'm certain that they were playing "mind games" with us.
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Just imagine the reaction when diamond stone commits.
Kentucky North!
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Alright, alright, alright!!
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Some quicks and athleticism in the backcourt. Roster is taking shape nicely.
Yes
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As a guy that has screamed it is a guard's game for many years, I'm thrilled. Especially a PG. I hope he is the real deal...a few others have had that kind of rating in the last few classes that were not to that caliber. Hopefully Traci can be that engine. Welcome to MU!
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His game seems a little like Cordell Henry. But he's taller of course.
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I have not been this excited in several years.
With what we have coming in, next year will be interesting.
2016-2017 should be exciting
2017-2018 could be monumental.
The coming years should make up for the misery of the immediate past.
Hillbilly? Who needs Hillbillies?!#@!
16' will be a better year than 17' I think.
Henry could be here 2 years but he ain't staying 3
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Eric Bossi rivals
Losing a four-star prospect during the second semester of his senior season isn't easy for any program to overcome. Marquette has not only managed the loss of Nick Noskowiak, they've very likely gotten better after adding four-star point guard Traci Carter on Tuesday.
Traci Carter is a big score for Marquette.
After missing the summer of 2014 with injury, the six-footer at Burlington (N.J.) Life Center returned to the floor with vengeance as a senior, becoming one of the most hotly recruited players on the board. Tuesday, he confirmed to Rivals.com that he would play his college ball for Steve Wojciechowski and his staff.
"They have a great staff," Carter told Rivals.com. "All of the staff were guards and they've been to the highest levels and they can help me develop. They are going to give me the opportunity to develop and also the education to go to the next level."
One of the quicker floor generals in the class of 2015, Carter is a guy who plays in attack mode more often than not.
A slick ball-handler, Carter loves to use his speed to attack ball screens and get downhill and into the teeth of the defense. Though he isn't huge, Carter is physically tough and a relentless competitor on both ends of the floor. He has playing style that is similar to All-Big 12 point guard Juwan Staten in that he loves to get to the rim but can also hit pull-up jumpers to keep defenders honest.
The chance to play in the Big East was key in Carter picking Marquette, as was the chance to play with the Golden Eagles' strong recruiting class. There was also an assist given to the Marquette staff from an unlikely source, the Washington Wizards All-Star point guard -- and former Rivals.com No. 1 player -- John Wall.
"That played a big part in my decision," said Carter of the recruiting class he will join. "They have an All-American big in Henry Ellenson who is great on the court and Haanif Cheatham is very good too.
"When I was down there on my visit, my uncle Rasual Butler, who plays for the Wizards, was in town. I was talking to John Wall when I met up with him and my uncle and he confirmed for me that it would be a good situation because they had exactly what a point guard would want."
The fifth member of Marquette's recruiting class, Carter is currently an unranked four-star prospect who will debut in the 2015 Rivals150 when it gets finalized next month. In addition to the five-star Ellenson and four-star Cheatham, the class includes Rivals150 big man Matt Heldt and versatile three-star shooting guard Sacar Anim.
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The chance to play in the Big East was key in Carter picking Marquette, as was the chance to play with the Golden Eagles' strong recruiting class. There was also an assist given to the Marquette staff from an unlikely source, the Washington Wizards All-Star point guard -- and former Rivals.com No. 1 player -- John Wall.
"That played a big part in my decision," said Carter of the recruiting class he will join. "They have an All-American big in Henry Ellenson who is great on the court and Haanif Cheatham is very good too.
"When I was down there on my visit, my uncle Rasual Butler, who plays for the Wizards, was in town. I was talking to John Wall when I met up with him and my uncle and he confirmed for me that it would be a good situation because they had exactly what a point guard would want."
John Wall talking up Marquette?
Can't say I saw that one coming.
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Wojo drinks coffee, as much as he wants.
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Eric Bossi rivals
Losing a four-star prospect during the second semester of his senior season isn't easy for any program to overcome. Marquette has not only managed the loss of Nick Noskowiak, they've very likely gotten better after adding four-star point guard Traci Carter on Tuesday.
Traci Carter is a big score for Marquette.
After missing the summer of 2014 with injury, the six-footer at Burlington (N.J.) Life Center returned to the floor with vengeance as a senior, becoming one of the most hotly recruited players on the board. Tuesday, he confirmed to Rivals.com that he would play his college ball for Steve Wojciechowski and his staff.
"They have a great staff," Carter told Rivals.com. "All of the staff were guards and they've been to the highest levels and they can help me develop. They are going to give me the opportunity to develop and also the education to go to the next level."
One of the quicker floor generals in the class of 2015, Carter is a guy who plays in attack mode more often than not.
A slick ball-handler, Carter loves to use his speed to attack ball screens and get downhill and into the teeth of the defense. Though he isn't huge, Carter is physically tough and a relentless competitor on both ends of the floor. He has playing style that is similar to All-Big 12 point guard Juwan Staten in that he loves to get to the rim but can also hit pull-up jumpers to keep defenders honest.
The chance to play in the Big East was key in Carter picking Marquette, as was the chance to play with the Golden Eagles' strong recruiting class. There was also an assist given to the Marquette staff from an unlikely source, the Washington Wizards All-Star point guard -- and former Rivals.com No. 1 player -- John Wall.
"That played a big part in my decision," said Carter of the recruiting class he will join. "They have an All-American big in Henry Ellenson who is great on the court and Haanif Cheatham is very good too.
"When I was down there on my visit, my uncle Rasual Butler, who plays for the Wizards, was in town. I was talking to John Wall when I met up with him and my uncle and he confirmed for me that it would be a good situation because they had exactly what a point guard would want."
The fifth member of Marquette's recruiting class, Carter is currently an unranked four-star prospect who will debut in the 2015 Rivals150 when it gets finalized next month. In addition to the five-star Ellenson and four-star Cheatham, the class includes Rivals150 big man Matt Heldt and versatile three-star shooting guard Sacar Anim.
This is awesome and makes me excited for the future.
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What's most important is that Wojo strings together successive classes. If you look at teams that win consistently, they put together a string of classes that allow you to weather the storm of a guy leaving for the NBA, or a transfer or two.
Buzz's biggest problem started in 2011-12, when he had a class in Anderson, Derrick and Todd. He followed that up with Steve Taylor, TJ Taylor and Jamal Ferguson. So in those two classes, you ended up with three transfers, two guys who could best be described as role players, and Steve Taylor.
I'm not expecting Wojo to put together top 10 classes every year, but he is going to have to avoid that type of mess.
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John Wall talking up Marquette?
Can't say I saw that one coming.
I think he was pretty good friends with DJO. Has he played on Team USA at all and knows Wojo that way?
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Kentucky North!
Duke of the Midwest!
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Eric Bossi rivals
A slick ball-handler, Carter loves to use his speed to attack ball screens and get downhill and into the teeth of the defense. Though he isn't huge, Carter is physically tough and a relentless competitor on both ends of the floor. He has playing style that is similar to All-Big 12 point guard Juwan Staten in that he loves to get to the rim but can also hit pull-up jumpers to keep defenders honest.
I like the sound of that...especially the "physically tough and a relentless competitor" part.
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They have 28 shooting guards in their top 100, so 36th would place him somewhere in the 120 range, I would guess.
His overall grade (80) might place him a bit higher, given that the players ranked 90-100 all have overall grades of 81.
Either way, he, like Carter, seems to be rising in stature.
Great news!
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I think he was pretty good friends with DJO. Has he played on Team USA at all and knows Wojo that way?
Our coaching staff has a ton of respect at the next level.
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Great week for Marquette. We haven't had a lot of them the past two seasons, but the future looks extremely bright.
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Great get for you guys. He's gonna be a solid 4 year starter for you.
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Welcome to Marquette, Traci!
Congrats to Wojo and his staff. A great get!
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Wow, Wojo calculates every last detail of his recruiting approach. Coordinating a visit (some luck with the Wiz in town but certainly in the back of his mind) with Traci's uncle and having someone like John Wall pimp Marquette?? Would've never guessed that - so cool. Behind Henry, I think Traci is definitely the biggest "get" for us all year, and I'd expect to see him and Duane starting in the backcourt.
I definitely feel like (and this is one guy's opinion), while Wojo has gotten some stud players and that in itself is crucially important, there's always a little more foresight going into it. He immediately locked up Noskowiak and went out to get Wally knowing full well how important those connections were to landing Henry. He made it a point to get the best players in Wisconsin (aside from Diamond) in Henry, Nick, Heldt to "put a fence" around Wisconsin when it comes to top recruits here going forward (a guy like Sam Hauser). While other schools like Minnesota, Wisco, St. Johns, Miami were intrigued but hesitant to pull the trigger on Sacar Anim, Wojo quickly evaluated him and showed his faith by being Sacar's first big offer. You have to think that leaves a positive impression with Sacar's good friend and big-time Wojo target Amir Coffey in next year's class. Then you get to Traci Carter, and I am beyond thrilled he's now in the fold, but Buzz unnatural carnal knowledgeed us in Philadelphia ever since the D.J. Newbill fiasco (Buzz was pretty much banned from recruiting there at all), and now Wojo comes in and blows everyone away with his recruiting of Traci. Now a fantastic recruiting area has reopened for us to go along with a great player.
Wojo - mad genius.
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Yes! Congrats to Wojo and staff. Hope the kid turns out to be a good one.
Wojo can recruit. Keep it rolling for the next class.
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Who wins a pickup game today?
Vets: Luke, Taylor, Cohen, JJJ, Duane
Frosh: Heldt, Henry, Haanif, Sacar, Carter
In all seriousness, it will be nice to have some depth next year with Wally and whatever grad transfer(s) come aboard. Should be a fun team to watch next year.
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Welcome to MU, Traci!
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Wojo's closing continues to impress. Welcome to MU, Mr. Carter.
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Recruiting consistently well is the single most important part of creating a winning college basketball program -- which of course you and everybody else here knows.
It is impossible to be anything but totally impressed with what Wojo has accomplished in that regard in the 11+ months he has been on the job.
Will he prove to be a great game coach? None of us can know that yet, but we all should be willing to give him a chance to grow into the position. I am on the Wojo bandwagon big-time.
Those who have spent much of the last few months savaging him have zero credibility.
Exactly right, 82! Scoop has been enjoyable, informative, and once again generally readable without those bloggers who couldn't help but disparage Coach Wojo, and based primarily on false assumptions.
goinUptown (aka/AlsDisciple)
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MU moves up in ESPN rankings from 12 to 9.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings
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MU moves up in ESPN rankings from 12 to 9.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings
Old information. That was after Sacar committed. They don't have Carter listed yet. We will probably jump 2-3 spots once they add Carter to our class.
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MU moves up in ESPN rankings from 12 to 9.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings
Not sure how accurate this is. They show us with 4 recruits--we have 5.
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i checked info earlier this morning, and it had MU at 11 after Amin signing. Within last hour, had +3 with move to #9
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Recruiting consistently well is the single most important part of creating a winning college basketball program -- which of course you and everybody else here knows.
It is impossible to be anything but totally impressed with what Wojo has accomplished in that regard in the 11+ months he has been on the job.
Will he prove to be a great game coach? None of us can know that yet, but we all should be willing to give him a chance to grow into the position. I am on the Wojo bandwagon big-time.
Those who have spent much of the last few months savaging him have zero credibility.
Has anyone else been thinking Wojo has been doing this great job of recruiting just to play mind games with the players already at MU?
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Who wins a pickup game today?
Vets: Luke, Taylor, Cohen, JJJ, Duane
Frosh: Heldt, Henry, Haanif, Sacar, Carter
In all seriousness, it will be nice to have some depth next year with Wally and whatever grad transfer(s) come aboard. Should be a fun team to watch next year.
In all seriousness, it would be pretty close.
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Has anyone else been thinking Wojo has been doing this great job of recruiting just to play mind games with the players already at MU?
All of us?
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Awesome!!!
Hopefully he pans out, would hate to see the 180 that happens if he isnt as good as advertised. Not saying that will be the case but just putting it out there. Its happened before... :-\
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Has anyone else been thinking Wojo has been doing this great job of recruiting just to play mind games with the players already at MU?
Yes, but people who think that are currently banned.
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MU moves up in ESPN rankings from 12 to 9.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/classrankings
We overtook Duke!
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Has anyone else been thinking Wojo has been doing this great job of recruiting just to play mind games with the players already at MU?
If by mind games, you mean sending the message that if you want to play you had better do the work in practice, in the weight room, in the gym, 24-7, in season and out of season, because if you don't I can go out and land another player at least as good....Lord, I hope so.
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Has anyone else been thinking Wojo has been doing this great job of recruiting just to play mind games with the players already at MU?
Nope just needs more bodies to push under the bus
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Yes, but people who think that are currently banned.
Coincidence?
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I like the sound of that...especially the "physically tough and a relentless competitor" part.
fyi, you just described derrick
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fyi, you just described derrick
True, but Derrick never drew comparisons to anyone like Staten.
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Love that this kid has a high arc on his shot. If he can make those shots fall at a decent clip, I'll be exponentially less concerned about his size.
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I've been critical of wojo's in game coaching and player development at times. however he has shown to be an excellent recruiter. will be exciting to watch traci at pg next year although I do hope we can pick up a veteran grad transfer who can log some minutes at that position as well.
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I am thrilled with the news, but I hope he has recovered from his injury. Though Steve has had some moments this season he has not looked like the player he was before his injury. So, just a cautionary note on expectations for Traci next season. Hope it all works out.
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Welcome to MU Mr. Carter!
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Love that this kid has a high arc on his shot. If he can make those shots fall at a decent clip, I'll be exponentially less concerned about his size.
Agreed. He seems to get it off fairly quickly, as well.
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Agreed. He seems to get it off fairly quickly, as well.
Is it me or does he seem to pause for a split second at the top of his jump on nearly every shot. Not necessarily a critique (since I don't have a leg to stand on that way), just an observation.
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fyi, you just described derrick
...with the addition of skilled shooter, creative passer, and the mindset of relentlessly attacking/probing the defense. These are essential PG attributes that have been lacking.
Really glad this guy committed!
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Is it me or does he seem to pause for a split second at the top of his jump on nearly every shot. Not necessarily a critique (since I don't have a leg to stand on that way), just an observation.
Aiming is important.
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Does anyone know if there is still someone out there MU could use? Like a backup PG or Power forward. Grad or JC or HS
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Aiming is important.
Something the staff may have forgotten to tell this year's players ;)
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Does anyone know if there is still someone out there MU could use? Like a backup PG or Power forward. Grad or JC or HS
JUCO and HS probably scraped clean. Grad transfer and regular transfer markets still to be determined.
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Time to bring in a European project center or shooting peer forward
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I'm surprised we haven't gone back to the Israeli well.
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Someone ring up keefe to gift us some pics
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You give us a 9th seed in the BE tournament and then you go and do this...
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I love a good reaction gif, and this is a good one.
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John Wall talking up Marquette?
Can't say I saw that one coming.
John Wall and DJO are very close, grew up in the same town and played youth ball together. Wall would come to MU games when DJO was here to see and support his good friend. So MU means something more to Wall than "just another big east school."
So let's also give an assist on this to DJO.
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Henry in the fold helps tremendously. Point guard duties become easier when ya got a 6'10" two all beef patty on your side, hey?
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And hopefully a skilled passer getting the ball to Big Fishy where he can do something good with it.
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What's most important is that Wojo strings together successive classes. If you look at teams that win consistently, they put together a string of classes that allow you to weather the storm of a guy leaving for the NBA, or a transfer or two.
Buzz's biggest problem started in 2011-12, when he had a class in Anderson, Derrick and Todd. He followed that up with Steve Taylor, TJ Taylor and Jamal Ferguson. So in those two classes, you ended up with three transfers, two guys who could best be described as role players, and Steve Taylor.
I'm not expecting Wojo to put together top 10 classes every year, but he is going to have to avoid that type of mess.
I've seen you mention "strings together successive classes" a couple times, But I'd like to remind you that there's a chance he only has one scholarship available for 16-17. More likely 2 or 3, and picking up good players for however many he has is important..But hard to have a top ranked class with only 1-3 recruits.
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And hopefully a skilled passer getting the ball to Big Fishy where he can do something good with it.
A lot of that will take care of itself with the floor properly spaced next year due to the threat of a shot maker at the 1
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Is this a dumb question or is carter as good as nick? I know nick was rated in the top 100 but after reading about carter pre injury he seemed like a good player. Is carter as good as nick or just as good as a replacement as we could have gotten???
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Is this a dumb question or is carter as good as nick? I know nick was rated in the top 100 but after reading about carter pre injury he seemed like a good player. Is carter as good as nick or just as good as a replacement as we could have gotten???
Different players. Carter is more of a pure PG. Nick is a better shooter that is more of a combo guard. Carter is quicker, and a better defender at this point.
I think Carter better fills the need for next season. Who is the better player remains TBD.
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John Wall and DJO are very close, grew up in the same town and played youth ball together. Wall would come to MU games when DJO was here to see and support his good friend. So MU means something more to Wall than "just another big east school."
So let's also give an assist on this to DJO.
Sooo, what you're saying is bring Wall and Drake to madness?
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I've seen you mention "strings together successive classes" a couple times, But I'd like to remind you that there's a chance he only has one scholarship available for 16-17. More likely 2 or 3, and picking up good players for however many he has is important..But hard to have a top ranked class with only 1-3 recruits.
I don't think a one or two person class has to be ranked. I just think you can't have too many recruiting misses like Buzz did in those consecutive years. Let's say that 2016 ends up a two player class, and those two players end up being solid contributors, but neither is a super star. That would be fine with me.
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2 5stars put you in top ten
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I don't think a one or two person class has to be ranked. I just think you can't have too many recruiting misses like Buzz did in those consecutive years. Let's say that 2016 ends up a two player class, and those two players end up being solid contributors, but neither is a super star. That would be fine with me.
2011 and 2012 were absolute killers. Of the 5 recruits, 2 didn't finish their careers here (Mayo & Ferguson) and the other three to date have been average at best players and were virtual non-contributors their first two years.
Maybe this is the case everywhere, but it seems like most guys that didn't flourish under Buzz left, at least until recently. 2009 had three guys who were solid starters (DJO, Buycks, Junior) and three transfers (Maymon, Mbao, Williams). 2010 had three solid starters (Blue, Crowder, Gardner) and two transfers (Jones, Smith).
Then for two years, nothing but backups, two of whom didn't finish their careers here. You need four year guys that can either accept that they aren't the starters -- Derrick and Juan are great for that but unfortunately have been forced into starting roles -- or guys that develop into starters by the time they are upperclassmen.
Buzz's Achilles' Heel seems to be that he's a poor evaluator of high school talent. He brought 21 high school players to Marquette. Of those, only Jeronne Maymon, Vander Blue, Davante Gardner, and possibly Duane Wilson will have met or exceeded expectations. That's way too many misses for sustained success. His JUCO recruits and transfers helped smooth the gaps, but when it came to HS players, he swung and missed way too often.
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2011 and 2012 were absolute killers. Of the 5 recruits, 2 didn't finish their careers here (Mayo & Ferguson) and the other three to date have been average at best players and were virtual non-contributors their first two years.
We had *six* recruits in those two years...TJ Taylor was a 2012 recruit.
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A lot of that will take care of itself with the floor properly spaced next year due to the threat of a shot maker at the 1
Certainly true for Derrick but I thought both Carlino and Duane were below average post entry passers this year. Now some of this is on Luke as he must do a better job of fighting for his spot.
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We had *six* recruits in those two years...TJ Taylor was a 2012 recruit.
Very true. Another empty offer. But at least it helped Tony Benford! :)
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Certainly true for Derrick but I thought both Carlino and Duane were below average post entry passers this year. Now some of this is on Luke as he must do a better job of fighting for his spot.
I would love to see some high/low action with Henry and Luke.
It is REALLY screws up the defensive double team assignments when you had a big who can throw an entry pass to another big.
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I would love to see some high/low action with Henry and Luke.
It is REALLY screws up the defensive double team assignments when you had a big who can throw an entry pass to another big.
Watching Henry highlights last night, he has a great handle and vision. Really could see him doing a lot of that.
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Certainly true for Derrick but I thought both Carlino and Duane were below average post entry passers this year. Now some of this is on Luke as he must do a better job of fighting for his spot.
I love Luke and believe he will become one of our best bigs when he fills out. He needs to work on his hands. Doesn't need to be Davante, but this needs work.
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Wojo went out there and got us a 4 star point guard! Officially announced a couple minutes ago. Let me be the first to welcome you to the MU family Traci! Can't wait to see you here next year!
Very excited - hope the excitement over the Big East tournament helped him make his move - though we were competing with other Big East schools. It's starting to feel a little like 1991 - transitioning but definitely on course toward another Sweet 16.
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Watching Henry highlights last night, he has a great handle and vision. Really could see him doing a lot of that.
Not to be a wet blanket or compare two pretty different prospects, but I re-watched Juan's Castro Valley mixtape yesterday and remember feeling the same way about him coming in.
Was looking for a mixtape for Derrick but couldn't find one.
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Not to be a wet blanket or compare two pretty different prospects, but I re-watched Juan's Castro Valley mixtape yesterday and remember feeling the same way about him coming in.
Was looking for a mixtape for Derrick but couldn't find one.
Juan and Henry are apples and oranges. Henry has been doing those things against some of the best in the world in his age group.
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Certainly true for Derrick but I thought both Carlino and Duane were below average post entry passers this year. Now some of this is on Luke as he must do a better job of fighting for his spot.
Disagreed. I have always thought Luke has been really good at sealing his defender in the post. We just hesitate too long to get him the ball and miss the opportunity for an easy bucket.
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Disagreed. I have always thought Luke has been really good at sealing his defender in the post. We just hesitate too long to get him the ball and miss the opportunity for an easy bucket.
Totally agree. It will be nice to have a guard that gets rid of the ball in a timely manner. For all the bitching about Derrick's shooting, the real problem he had was taking too much time to make decisions with the ball.
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Totally agree. It will be nice to have a guard that gets rid of the ball in a timely manner. For all the bitching about Derrick's shooting, the real problem he had was taking too much time to make decisions with the ball.
For Derrick I don't think this was the case for post entry passes. His defender was simply sagging a few feet off of him and he couldn't get an angle to get the ball inside.
In other situations, Derrick was definitely too tenative and will hold the ball too long near the top of the key. Wasted seconds which are bad for an already offensively challenged team.
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Disagreed. I have always thought Luke has been really good at sealing his defender in the post. We just hesitate too long to get him the ball and miss the opportunity for an easy bucket.
Disagree. Luke got the ball inside plenty of times with the opportunity to shoot, but he often brought the ball down and sometimes pump faked or dribbled. He gave the defense way too much time to surround him. If he just went up fast and strong, he'd have scored a lot more than he did. You could often read Wojo's lips yelling "just go up with it!"
Good coaching will change this.
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Disagree. Luke got the ball inside plenty of times with the opportunity to shoot, but he often brought the ball down and sometimes pump faked or dribbled. He gave the defense way too much time to surround him. If he just went up fast and strong, he'd have scored a lot more than he did. You could often read Wojo's lips yelling "just go up with it!"
Good coaching will change this.
I agree with this but this isn't contrary to what Wades was saying. He just said Luke does a great job at sealing his defender, which I think is true. What he does when he gets the ball needs improvement, but he gets great position more times than not.
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Not to be a wet blanket or compare two pretty different prospects, but I re-watched Juan's Castro Valley mixtape yesterday and remember feeling the same way about him coming in.
Was looking for a mixtape for Derrick but couldn't find one.
I hope you're not seriously comparing Henry and Juan.
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I hope you're not seriously comparing Henry and Juan.
No, I was reminding myself as a fan to temper my enthusiasm because HS mix tapes don't equate to immediate D1 success.
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I agree with this but this isn't contrary to what Wades was saying. He just said Luke does a great job at sealing his defender, which I think is true. What he does when he gets the ball needs improvement, but he gets great position more times than not.
This. Luke gets into position and 80% of the time he's got his man beat whoever the pass is not timely. Not sure if its a trust issue, lack of anticipation or what....but a bunch of times Luke got position and guards would ball fake the pass a couple of times then pass it around the perimeter some more.
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I would love to see some high/low action with Henry and Luke.
It is REALLY screws up the defensive double team assignments when you had a big who can throw an entry pass to another big.
Started to see some of that with Luke and Teve the last two games of the season. I think we see Teve and Luke playing high low....with Henry's shooting also adding another wrinkle in that he can take the 12 footer as well.
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I agree with this but this isn't contrary to what Wades was saying. He just said Luke does a great job at sealing his defender, which I think is true. What he does when he gets the ball needs improvement, but he gets great position more times than not.
I guess I could have been more clear. I agree with wades about Luke being good at sealing his defender - he is.
But wades then attributes Luke's problems to the guards not getting the ball to him quickly enough ("we just hesitate too long to get him the ball"). I disagree with that second part - I think the guards got the ball to him quickly enough to score plenty of times, and that Luke's tendency to hesitate was the biggest issue with our inside game. It sounds like you agree with that, but I'm not sure wades does.
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The UConn board is really butthurt over this and it pleases me greatly
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Back to Traci... Can't wait to see him play with our bigs next year!
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Totally agree. It will be nice to have a guard that gets rid of the ball in a timely manner. For all the bitching about Derrick's shooting, the real problem he had was taking too much time to make decisions with the ball.
I agree. And I hope this is my last post ever about Derrick Wilson.
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I guess I could have been more clear. I agree with wades about Luke being good at sealing his defender - he is.
But wades then attributes Luke's problems to the guards not getting the ball to him quickly enough ("we just hesitate too long to get him the ball"). I disagree with that second part - I think the guards got the ball to him quickly enough to score plenty of times, and that Luke's tendency to hesitate was the biggest issue with our inside game. It sounds like you agree with that, but I'm not sure wades does.
Yes and no. I do think Luke is too slow making a move/decision in the post a lot of times. Even on a drive and dish he tends to gather himself before going up for the finish, which he can't do and we've seen that this year. But I also think our guards hesitate to feed him in the post a lot and it allows his defender to counter his solid post position. Both of these things need to improve.
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I guess I could have been more clear. I agree with wades about Luke being good at sealing his defender - he is.
But wades then attributes Luke's problems to the guards not getting the ball to him quickly enough ("we just hesitate too long to get him the ball"). I disagree with that second part - I think the guards got the ball to him quickly enough to score plenty of times, and that Luke's tendency to hesitate was the biggest issue with our inside game. It sounds like you agree with that, but I'm not sure wades does.
Fair enough. Much more decisive for the most part tonight, but there were still 2 or 3 times I thought he could have just gone with it but waited too long. Granted, he ended up scoring a few of those, but thought he could have had an easier attempt with a quicker decision