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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Jables1604 on February 14, 2015, 02:33:12 PM
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Anyone looking for a silver lining today should be happy with this news. Marquette lacrosse beat #17/19 Hofstra 11-10 today in a homecoming game for Coach Amplo. We beat Lehigh last weekend who was also ranked in the Top 20. No doubt we'll be getting some votes this week in the national poll.
Great start to the 2015 season!
And before someone says it...I know...I know...Superbar...
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Anyone looking for a silver lining today should be happy with this news.
zzzzzzzzz
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winning yeah!
Forgetting what that feels like. I have a feeling Amplo will get gobbled up if we aren't competitive with the $$. How serious are we?
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Nice win, but this should be in the Superbar.
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I think getting the funding for the indoor facility was huge. I've met Coach Amplo at a number of fundraising events in NYC over the past 2 or 3 years. One of my high school classmates who also played lax back in the day at Marquette started a scholarship specifically directed towards the lacrosse program. Right now I think he is quite happy and understands that Marquette always will be a basketball school.
In a press conference today Coach Amplo made a great point about a lot of the kids having a chip on their shoulders because they were passed over by bigger, more prestigious lacrosse schools. I remember that when Jim Calhoun first got to UConn (I live in Connecticut that's the only reason I know the story) he knew he was at a huge disadvantage in recruiting kids because all the "good" players wanted to go to Syracuse, Georgetown, Villanova, St. John's etc. Calhoun sold kids on coming to UConn based on the ability to play night in and night out against those kids that college coaches thought were better. I think to a certain extent Coach Amplo is using a similar tactic. Either way it seems to be working.
I'm like you though. I'm concerned that Marquette will become a victim of it's own success and that Coach Amplo will move on to a more visible, higher paying job.
As for Dgies and your "zzzzzzzz" comment, I'm sure your the type of Marquette fan who, once we make the NCAA lacrosse tournament, will be wearing Marquete lacrosse t-shirts to your neighborhood barbecue bragging about what a great program we have.
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And before someone says it...I know...I know...Superbar...
Nah, I think our lacrosse team is probably better at basketball than our basketball team. They can play 50 vs. 7.
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Thanks for the info jables. This is a great start.
Amplo can make serious noise at Marquette and build a long tradition. And he can make just as much money by running camps as the sport grows in the Midwest, so I think he's here for a while. Lacrosse coaches don't make that much money directly from the universities, even at higher profile lax schools.
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Success in Lacrosse is good for the school . Will translate into big endowment dollars over the long term. In the short term we will get a game or two on ESPN and that helps with visibility in the lacrosse hot beds.
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Success in Lacrosse is good for the school . Will translate into big endowment dollars over the long term. In the short term we will get a game or two on ESPN and that helps with visibility in the lacrosse hot beds.
Home games this year against current #1 (and Big East favorite) Denver and current #3 Duke on CBS Sports Network in April.
Hopefully, they're competitive games. MU has been outscored 71-25 in two games against each opponent in the first two years of the program.
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Yes, great news for the program. MU is doing well for such a young program. Any nay sayers have probably not seen a game. Lacrosse is a great game and growing at a crazy pace. Along with this growth it becoming more mainstream and there seems to be less of the "lax bro" garbage. Go MU!
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Two huge wins for the Marquette lacrosse program. It was just two seasons ago the eventual national championship Duke lacrosse came to town and demolished Marquette. You can't beat the price of the game for group rate tickets. Two top four lacrosse teams coming to town.
My son loved the Marquette lacrosse camp this summer. They put in lots of time with free coaches clinics to help further the sport in the area.
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I think we really could be at the forefront of a huge lacrosse boom in the non-traditional lacrosse markets. Keep in mind that Bill Tierney coached Princeton to 6 NCAA titles. A few years back he left Princeton to take the job at Denver. The reason he did that is because he wanted to be in an area where the game was growing and growing at a rapid pace.
The only other team in the area was the Air Force Academy. In 5 years Tierney has taken Denver to 3 Final Fours and they are currently the #1 ranked team in the country. Throw on top of that that they are a playing member of he Big East for lacrosse and that they will be traveling to Milwaukee for a nationally televised game on April 18th.
Like I said, Marquette will always be a basketball school...and I love that. But it is a very exciting time for the lacrosse program and for that we should all be happy.
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I think we really could be at the forefront of a huge lacrosse boom in the non-traditional lacrosse markets.
I think that was part of the idea behind starting the programs, both men's and women's. Get out in front of the boom, and by the time that other schools decide to start getting on board, Marquette already has an established (and hopefully) successful program.
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If Marquette lacrosse can stay on its current upward path, I think it could grow into a big draw student-wise as something to cheer for outside of basketball. There is some season overlap between the two but the Lax regular season goes until late April with a fair amount of Saturday games.
I think that in the future with a nationally competitive team, state of the art indoor and outdoor facilities, and a solid fan base, lacrosse could become a fun secondary program to support. Soccer has been very successful in recent years and draws a decent crowd, but lacrosse could easily rival and surpass it.
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Inside Lacroose poll just released this morning. Marquette is ranked #17. What a huge accomplishment. Coach Amplo (and the rest of us) should rightfully be very proud. Incredible for such a young program.
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If Marquette lacrosse can stay on its current upward path, I think it could grow into a big draw student-wise as something to cheer for outside of basketball. There is some season overlap between the two but the Lax regular season goes until late April with a fair amount of Saturday games.
I think that in the future with a nationally competitive team, state of the art indoor and outdoor facilities, and a solid fan base, lacrosse could become a fun secondary program to support. Soccer has been very successful in recent years and draws a decent crowd, but lacrosse could easily rival and surpass it.
Lacrosse has the advantage of not being a global force. Men's soccer has lost two players (Novakovich & Navarro) in the last two years because they were much better served by pursuing a professional career than going to/staying in school.
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Inside Lacroose poll just released this morning. Marquette is ranked #17. What a huge accomplishment. Coach Amplo (and the rest of us) should rightfully be very proud. Incredible for such a young program.
I saw this and decided to do some research. Popular opinion from lax fans seems to be that there is little meaning in weekly rankings outside of the top 8 or so. Above 8, the remaining teams are just about equal (along with a handful of unranked teams). Still, better to be ranked than unranked.
And what's the deal with final four attendance for lax? It has taken a nosedive...
http://www.laxpower.com/common/NCAA-Attendance.php
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I saw this and decided to do some research. Popular opinion from lax fans seems to be that there is little meaning in weekly rankings outside of the top 8 or so. Above 8, the remaining teams are just about equal (along with a handful of unranked teams). Still, better to be ranked than unranked.
And what's the deal with final four attendance for lax? It has taken a nosedive...
http://www.laxpower.com/common/NCAA-Attendance.php
Particularly early in the season, as some teams have played three or four games while some have only played one or even not at all yet.
As far as attendance goes, I believe I've read that ticket prices have gone way up over the last few years, which is probably not helping. Also, the title game participants haven't really matched up with the locations. Two Maryland teams in Boston, North Carolina & upstate NY in Philly, and last year, North Carolina & Indiana in Baltimore. Given that the Final Four is on Memorial Day weekend, it can be hard to get people to travel major distances on a whim.
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I willing to bet the NCAA took something like lacrosse that had family friendly pricing and jack up the price, that folks are not willing to sit in the upper deck for that cost.
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Can this be moved off the Al board, please! I'm tired of looking at this as a topic on a basketball board. I hope MU lacrosse does well, but this doesn't belong here. Few give a rip, and the few that do, can find it in the Superbar.
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I love it when guys click on a thread for the sole purpose of complaining that they have no interest in reading that thread. If you're that busy and pressed for time don't click on it. I'm tired of the same 8 posters re-hashing everything thats right and/or wrong with Marquette basketball. This board could use some positive news.
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Not to mention, that's what the "Report to Moderator" function is for.
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Next year should be better. I see good things for soccer, volleyball, and lacrosse. Get the train back on the tracks.
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Move to Superbar?
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On second thought, you're right Hutch. Lacrosse belongs in the Superbar. Apparently, however, long-winded discussions on the Minnesota Twins lineup and managerial changes is appropriate fodder for the Al. My bad.
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I love it when guys click on a thread for the sole purpose of complaining that they have no interest in reading that thread. If you're that busy and pressed for time don't click on it. I'm tired of the same 8 posters re-hashing everything thats right and/or wrong with Marquette basketball. This board could use some positive news.
Hey genius, you called yourself out on this being in the wrong place when you posted it!!!
This is a basketball board to discuss all things MU basketball and not be cluttered up by lacrosse news. There's a reason there's a Superbar, and why stuff that doesn't belong here gets moved over there.
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Not to mention, that's what the "Report to Moderator" function is for.
Well I've tried that route already Sultan.
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Most the guys I've met on the Lax team are a bunch of tools. I used to play on the club team and tried talking to them about lax and they were too cool to be talked to. I know if anybody who's boxed comes up to me I gladly talk to them, if you talk to the basketball players about hoops they'll talk (at least hayward and butler used to). This is one team that I just won't root for.
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On second thought, you're right Hutch. Lacrosse belongs in the Superbar. Apparently, however, long-winded discussions on the Minnesota Twins lineup and managerial changes is appropriate fodder for the Al. My bad.
Don't know WTF you're talking about, but ok, sure, I agree that discussion shouldn't be in here either. However, I don't find it as a topic?
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Most boxers I've met a woodheads who want to settle everything with their fists. But I guess I shouldn't make generalized statements.
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Maybe it should be moved....I'm getting a Michael Douglas in Falling Down vibe in here. We don't need Real Chili held up tonight.
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Well I've tried that route already Sultan.
Well the moderators don't care then. It's their board.
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Most the guys I've met on the Lax team are a bunch of tools. I used to play on the club team and tried talking to them about lax and they were too cool to be talked to. I know if anybody who's boxed comes up to me I gladly talk to them, if you talk to the basketball players about hoops they'll talk (at least hayward and butler used to). This is one team that I just won't root for.
No one really cares.
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Well the moderators don't care then. It's their board.
Standing up for the mods now. Goodness your opinions flip quickly, don't they?
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Standing up for the mods now. Goodness your opinions flip quickly, don't they?
Not standing up for them. Stating reality.
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Moderators must be concerned about stats vs basketball content :(
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You guys are right. My bad.
If I escalated things it's on me.
My intent was to point out a positive development in Marquette athletics. If the placement rubbed people the wrong way my apologies.
I played lacrosse at Marquette from 86-90. Back in the day we would be scraping 12 or 13 guys together just to field a team. We had to pay our own way. Buy our own equipment (everything from uniforms to goals). Drive ourselves to road games and find our own "accomodations" for overnight trips. Most of the time our "fans" consisted of a few students and vagrants who happened to wander onto King Field for the free beverages after the game.
Those are some of my fondest memories of my time at Marquette.
When I found out lacrose was bexcoming a varsity sport I was thrilled. I understand that not everyone shares my enthusiasm.
In the future I will temper my comments.
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You guys are right. My bad.
If I escalated things it's on me.
My intent was to point out a positive development in Marquette athletics. If the placement rubbed people the wrong way my apologies.
I played lacrosse at Marquette from 86-90. Back in the day we would be scraping 12 or 13 guys together just to field a team. We had to pay our own way. Buy our own equipment (everything from uniforms to goals). Drive ourselves to road games and find our own "accomodations" for overnight trips. Most of the time our "fans" consisted of a few students and vagrants who happened to wander onto King Field for the free beverages after the game.
Those are some of my fondest memories of my time at Marquette.
When I found out lacrose was bexcoming a varsity sport I was thrilled. I understand that not everyone shares my enthusiasm.
In the future I will temper my comments.
My comments weren't directed at you until you made your snide remarks to my post about having this moved. I don't care that it ended up here to begin with. If that would have been my beef, I wouldn't have waited until today to remark about it. But when a totally off topic thread languishes going on a third day, that's what irritates me. Period. And I'm done commenting now on this, it bothers me more apparently than those who are supposedly moderating this board.
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No one really cares.
You know you're the only person on here who just seems to be crabby no matter what. Heck I've posted stuff agreeing with you that you've still argued about.
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Most boxers I've met a woodheads who want to settle everything with their fists. But I guess I shouldn't make generalized statements.
Maybe you should go meet some more boxers, in fact if I had to guess I'd say that you're personally invested in the lax team and because my post called some people on your team out you wanted to just lash out in a similar way with very little to no actual personal experience to back up that position.
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For the record, my roomate junior and senior year was the Golden Gloves Midwest champion. From Omaha. Probably no more than 125 pounds soaking wet. To this day the toughest bastard I've ever met. I've also represented at least half a dozen boxers in my legal career. You're right though. I am vested in the lacrosse program. I just don't like statements condemning an entire group based on experiences with a few members of that certain group.
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For the record, my roomate junior and senior year was the Golden Gloves Midwest champion. From Omaha. Probably no more than 125 pounds soaking wet. To this day the toughest bastard I've ever met. I've also represented at least half a dozen boxers in my legal career. You're right though. I am vested in the lacrosse program. I just don't like statements condemning an entire group based on experiences with a few members of that certain group.
I didn't condemn the entire group, was very careful about that as it's my pet peeve to, I said 'most of the guys I've met were tools'. Based that on the guys I met in Schroeder, the guys I met at the senior camping trip last year and the guy who beat up the DPS officer on acid. I suppose that one of those groups graduated and that one guy got expelled but till I'm shown otherwise I'll figure that's the type of guy that Amplo recruits.
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I promise this is the last time I'll post on this topic and in this thread but I can't let your response go without addressing what you say. Your original post on this topic said that you had no desire to support the team based on your interaction with a few members. When I question your making a generalized statement about the lacrosse team you respond that, in fact, that's not what you're doing. Yet in the exact same comment you write that you'll assume ALL of Coach Amplo's recruits are the same based on your interactions with only a few. That's not making a generalized statement? C'mon. If you're going to make a blanket statement about ALL of the players on the team at least be man enough to own it.
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I promise this is the last time I'll post on this topic and in this thread but I can't let your response go without addressing what you say. Your original post on this topic said that you had no desire to support the team based on your interaction with a few members. When I question your making a generalized statement about the lacrosse team you respond that, in fact, that's not what you're doing. Yet in the exact same comment you write that you'll assume ALL of Coach Amplo's recruits are the same based on your interactions with only a few. That's not making a generalized statement? C'mon. If you're going to make a blanket statement about ALL of the players on the team at least be man enough to own it.
Hmm you're right there, I forgot I posted that part. Then let me go ahead and rephrase it: till I'm confident that those individuals are gone (probably this year or next) or see some stories that make me think the character of the team is improving I'll continue to think that but will not let it reflect my opinion of future teams barring stories of dps officers beat up or talking to these guys with them thinking they're Gods gift to man kind.
Sorry if my experience and then opinion of the team included your [son, nephew, neighbor, brother, etc] I'm sure he's an upstanding individual and hope that he can be the one that brings some heartwarming story to the public's eye that makes me think that the team's actual full of good people now days.
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You guys are right. My bad.
If I escalated things it's on me.
My intent was to point out a positive development in Marquette athletics. If the placement rubbed people the wrong way my apologies.
I played lacrosse at Marquette from 86-90. Back in the day we would be scraping 12 or 13 guys together just to field a team. We had to pay our own way. Buy our own equipment (everything from uniforms to goals). Drive ourselves to road games and find our own "accomodations" for overnight trips. Most of the time our "fans" consisted of a few students and vagrants who happened to wander onto King Field for the free beverages after the game.
Those are some of my fondest memories of my time at Marquette.
When I found out lacrose was bexcoming a varsity sport I was thrilled. I understand that not everyone shares my enthusiasm.
In the future I will temper my comments.
I went to a few of your games back in the day.
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Hmm you're right there, I forgot I posted that part. Then let me go ahead and rephrase it: till I'm confident that those individuals are gone (probably this year or next) or see some stories that make me think the character of the team is improving I'll continue to think that but will not let it reflect my opinion of future teams barring stories of dps officers beat up or talking to these guys with them thinking they're Gods gift to man kind.
Sorry if my experience and then opinion of the team included your [son, nephew, neighbor, brother, etc] I'm sure he's an upstanding individual and hope that he can be the one that brings some heartwarming story to the public's eye that makes me think that the team's actual full of good people now days.
Maybe I'm confusing people here but aren't you the one that gets angry when people put down the frats at Marquette based on their limited interactions with them? That seems like exactly what you are doing here. Also the way you describe the lacrosse players is the way a lot of people were describing the frat guys.
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Maybe I'm confusing people here but aren't you the one that gets angry when people put down the frats at Marquette based on their limited interactions with them? That seems like exactly what you are doing here. Also the way you describe the lacrosse players is the way a lot of people were describing the frat guys.
Nope not me at all that was Chitown
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Nope not me at all that was Chitown
Gotcha. I really need to keep better track of who is who.
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Gotcha. I really need to keep better track of who is who.
I keep a spreadsheet.
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I keep a spreadsheet.
Color coded I imagine
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Color coded I imagine
Different hues for posters that often change names. It's like a warning system then.
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3-0 after a come from behind overtime win over Richmond.
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I don't follow lacrosse, but I always like to see a Marquette team do well. I also appreciate that Anonymous Eagle supports our teams, women's soccer, lacrosse, whatever, and not just basketball. Big ups to AE for their coverage.
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I went to a few of your games back in the day.
f uckin' vagrant.
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Chico, what year did you graduate?
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I don't follow lacrosse, but I always like to see a Marquette team do well. I also appreciate that Anonymous Eagle supports our teams, women's soccer, lacrosse, whatever, and not just basketball. Big ups to AE for their coverage.
I find it a bit odd, but it's wonderful at the same time.
Is lacrosse a rich person's sport? If so, I should like totally try it out.
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I find it a bit odd, but it's wonderful at the same time.
Is lacrosse a rich person's sport? If so, I should like totally try it out.
All I know is that if you look at a list of the high schools in Illinois that have varsity Lacrosse, it is almost exclusively the ones in the wealthier school districts. I don't think it is necessarily an expensive sport to participate in.
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I find it a bit odd, but it's wonderful at the same time.
Is lacrosse a rich person's sport? If so, I should like totally try it out.
Out here, it definitely maps to upper income areas.
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Out here, it definitely maps to upper income areas.
Definitely no Lacrosse teams in East St. Louis or CPS.
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Out here, it definitely maps to upper income areas.
It's weird though, on paper it's cheaper then football.
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Definitely no Lacrosse teams in East St. Louis or CPS.
2008 Whitney Young Lacrosse team
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Morgan_state_lacrosse.png/1024px-Morgan_state_lacrosse.png)
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All I know is that if you look at a list of the high schools in Illinois that have varsity Lacrosse, it is almost exclusively the ones in the wealthier school districts. I don't think it is necessarily an expensive sport to participate in.
The expense is probably due to fields needed in addition to those used for football, soccer, etc.
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2008 Whitney Young Lacrosse team
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Morgan_state_lacrosse.png/1024px-Morgan_state_lacrosse.png)
Okay, they have lacrosse at a magnet school. I stand corrected. What about Simeon or Marshall?
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2008 Whitney Young Lacrosse team
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Morgan_state_lacrosse.png/1024px-Morgan_state_lacrosse.png)
Okay, they have lacrosse at a magnet school. I stand corrected. What about Simeon or Marshall?
This is a photo from Morgan State's Lacrosse wikipedia page. An HBCU. Why are you saying its Whitney Young's team? Is it possible that you typed in "all black lacrosse team" into google but couldn't find any high schools so you took the first picture you saw and said it was from a random CPS school? All to try to say Chick is wrong? C'mon man. Plus, this picture is from 1975, not 2008. Do you see the haircuts and outfits?
Here's the search results from googling "all black lacrosse team" https://www.google.com/search?q=all+black+lacrosse+team&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS565US565&espv=2&biw=1536&bih=777&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ajLrVJTcJ8O5ggSAroDAAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg
Here's the wikipedia page the picture is taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_State_Bears_lacrosse
And here's a picture of Whitney Young's actual LAX Team:
(http://themash.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/WY_lacrosse2_john_booz.jpg)
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I find it a bit odd, but it's wonderful at the same time.
Is lacrosse a rich person's sport? If so, I should like totally try it out.
I believe Sperry topsiders are the regulation footwear.
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A Warriors' Game
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That's why we'll never get the nickname back!!!
A Warriors' Game
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It's weird though, on paper it's cheaper then football.
So is archery. The origin of the sport matters.
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2008 Whitney Young Lacrosse team
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Morgan_state_lacrosse.png/1024px-Morgan_state_lacrosse.png)
LOL. Circa 1975....love the fros.
Morgan State photo...I did laugh and I think you may have trolled a few folks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_State_Bears_lacrosse
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Definitely no Lacrosse teams in East St. Louis or CPS.
Lincoln park and lane tech had teams when I was in HS. Heck I played on Lane's my freshman year of high school.
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LOL. Circa 1975....love the fros.
Morgan State photo...I did laugh and I think you may have trolled a few folks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_State_Bears_lacrosse
It was supposed to be more of a joke than a troll but I guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought.
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Linkin park and lane tech had teams when I was in HS. Heck I played on Lane's my freshman year of high school.
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/nakazatoDS/Website/LPclassic.jpg)
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It was supposed to be more of a joke than a troll but I guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought.
I think you pulled some people in, but it was well done.
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It's weird though, on paper it's cheaper then football.
IMO, it has to do with who is playing. This sport isn't being played in the poorer neighborhoods, despite the expense. I have a number of friends with sons that play this game and they have often opined this is a way to let their dudes get physical, hit people, without mommies getting all bent about their kids playing football. It's a happy medium.
Almost all of them live in either Scottsdale, beach communities in California, or places like Anaheim Hills, other well to do locations.
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Our early success in Lacrosse is giving MU some excellent visibility in the major athletic high schools in the NY/NJ area. Primarily in the Catholic Leagues. This will directly help our basketball recruiting as there is a lot of crossover in the sport at the high school level.
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IMO, it has to do with who is playing. This sport isn't being played in the poorer neighborhoods, despite the expense. I have a number of friends with sons that play this game and they have often opined this is a way to let their dudes get physical, hit people, without mommies getting all bent about their kids playing football. It's a happy medium.
Almost all of them live in either Scottsdale, beach communities in California, or places like Anaheim Hills, other well to do locations.
Well I think it's certainly moving down from those types of places to more of your average middle class area. I doubt it'll ever get lower than that.
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I'm in Fairfield County, Connecticut which has historically been a lacrosse hotbed. Each year the list of public schools that field a team (not just in Fairfield County but statewide) increases. I'm right near Bridgeport which is a very economically depressed city. There are three major public high schools in town (Bassick, Harding (where Wesley Mathews' father was a star) and Central). Central is the only school that fields a lacrosse team.
During the Spring I read the local newspaper every day and always check specifically for their scores. Each time I hope to read that they knocked off one of the powerhouses but usually it ends up that they get destroyed. It must discouraging to go out day in and day out and rolled by kids with names like Blaine, Spencer and Cameron. The biggest problem is that out here kids start playing lacrosse when they are 5 or 6 years old. No way inner-city kids who pick up a stick for the first time in 9th or 10th grade can compete with that. Couple that with school budgets which are now requiring pay to play and a major shortage in green space for teams to even practice and these kids are being set up to fail.
I hope that changes one day because it really is a great sport.
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Lacrosse is big in the irish italian lower middle/middle class working parts of Long Island. Parents view it as a way for their kids to rise above their circumstance. Lots of these kids end up at schools like St. Anthonys , Chaminade etc which are sports powerhouses.
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It was supposed to be more of a joke than a troll but I guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought.
I am sure if I had followed my first instinct and posted that there is no way Whitney Young's lacrosse team was made up of mostly African American kids, someone would have called me a racist.
It appears that my original guess was correct. Most of the lacrosse players in CPS are kids that got into the highly selective magnet schools, and most of them would be at Ignatius, Lake Forest Academy, or the like if they hadn't gotten in.
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It was supposed to be more of a joke than a troll but I guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought.
It was obvious and funny!
CPS does not have many LAX teams-there are 8 CPS schools in the IHSLA. I would say that Mather is the closest to a blue collar non-magnet school with LAX in the CPS.
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I am sure if I had followed my first instinct and posted that there is no way Whitney Young's lacrosse team was made up of mostly African American kids, someone would have called me a racist.
It appears that my original guess was correct. Most of the lacrosse players in CPS are kids that got into the highly selective magnet schools, and most of them would be at Ignatius, Lake Forest Academy, or the like if they hadn't gotten in.
Well a lot of people at said magnet schools can't afford ignitious loyala or Fenwick. (Don't know where you got lake Forest that's not even in cook county let alone a catholic school that would attract kids from the city). Not arguing the race aspect of Lax, between lacrosse America, lane tech, OPRF and marquette club I played with probably 6 african American guys. But money wise I completely disagree with your assessment where those kids would be if they weren't at that specific magnet school.
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Well a lot of people at said magnet schools can't afford ignitious loyala or Fenwick. (Don't know where you got lake Forest). Not arguing the race aspect of Lax, between lacrosse America, lane tech, OPRF and marquette club I played with probably 6 african American guys. But money wise I completely disagree with your assessment where those kids would be if they weren't at that specific magnet school.
I should have spoken more generally. My point was that many of the students in the magnet schools were in private schools for grade school and would be in a private high school (schools that have lacrosse teams)if they hadn't got accepted into Whitney Young, Walter Payton, etc. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I am simply saying that is probably why the magnet schools have lacrosse and Simeon doesn't.
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I should have spoken more generally. My point was that many of the students in the magnet schools were in private schools for grade school and would be in a private high school (schools that have lacrosse teams)if they hadn't got accepted into Whitney Young, Walter Payton, etc. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I am simply saying that is probably why the magnet schools have lacrosse and Simeon doesn't.
Out here there are a handful of minority kids every year that are recruited into the good catholic schools and play lacrosse. The greatest lacrosse player in history was Jim Brown. There is a statue of him at Manhasset. I think the big limiting factor is that to become good at the sport it takes years and years of practice with the stick .That is what makes it so expensive. Year after Year of club lacrosse and travel to become good is just a killer on the pocketbook. It is one of the few sports where a 5-7 160 pound kid can compete with someone 6-3 245.
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MU lax is #16, how about we talk about that.
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MU lax is #16, how about we talk about that.
Serious question, when was the last time the bball team was ranked that high?
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Serious question, when was the last time the bball team was ranked that high?
Well, they were AP #17 on 11/11/13. And AP #15 on 3/18/13, and even better AP #12 on 3/11/13.
And hoops has way more teams than LAX.
So...no that long ago really.
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Well, they were AP #17 on 11/11/13. And AP #15 on 3/18/13, and even better AP #12 on 3/11/13.
And hoops has way more teams than LAX.
So...no that long ago really.
Thanks. It certainly FEELS like a lot longer than that.
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Lacrosse team had a nice win over University of Detroit this afternoon. 12-6. Big game Sunday against Ohio State.
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Lacrosse team had a nice win over University of Detroit this afternoon. 12-6. Big game Sunday against Ohio State.
or is it THE Ohio State
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I stand corrected Chico's.
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I stand corrected Chico's.
I think you had it right quite frankly. Only Buckturds go with the THE
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I think you had it right quite frankly. Only Buckturds go with the THE
Seriously. Nothing gets me rolling my eyes more than when I hear that "The..." crap.
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Lacrosse team just scored with 11 seconds left to beat THE Ohio State University (that's for you Chico's). We were down 9-6 in the 4th quarter and scored 4 unanswered. Great win for the school.
A W over 25th ranked Providence on the road would be a nice ending to this weekend.
Go Marquette!!!
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Once trailed 9-5. Ohio State missed a point blank range for the tie. What a comback for Marquette.
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Lacrosse team just scored with 11 seconds left to beat THE Ohio State University (that's for you Chico's). We were down 9-6 in the 4th quarter and scored 4 unanswered. Great win for the school.
A W over 25th ranked Providence on the road would be a nice ending to this weekend.
Go Marquette!!!
Just curious, where can I find the college lacrosse rankings?
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There are two polls. One is the NCAA poll which you can see on the NCAA website. The other is on the USILA website. We're currently 16 in the NCAA and 17 in the USILA poll. With two wins over the weekend I expect that will change when the new poll is released tomorrow.
Now, we need a big game from STJJr.
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http://www.insidelacrosse.com
Geoff Shannon @Geoff_Shannon
FINAL: @MarquetteMLax 10, @OhioState_MLAX 9. Fantastic comeback for the Golden Eagles. 5-0 on the season and climbing #ILGameday
Retweeted by Inside Lacrosse
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Congratulations to the long and short sticks
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Huge win vs the OSU. I hate them, I grew up in Michigan. The Warriors have a legit shot at an NCAA birth for lax which is a big deal. The lax tourney only takes 16 team, I think. Ring Out Ahoya for the lax bros!!!!!
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Marquette has a really great shot at the NCAA tournament in lacrosse now which I believe was expanded last year to 20 teams. It all depends how they do against the rest of the big east teams they play but their early season out of conference games couldn't have gone any better. They've gotten a lot of help from a graduate student transfer Jordan Greenfield from Fairfield.
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Let's hope this doesn't mirror MU women's volleyball. Taste some success...and the coach takes off for greener pastures.
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Latest NCAA poll is out. Lacrosse team is up to #13 in the country. Ahead of traditional powerhouses like Loyola-Maryland, Towson, Harvard and Johns Hopkins.
This really is a huge accomplishment.
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Marquette has a really great shot at the NCAA tournament in lacrosse now which I believe was expanded last year to 20 teams.
18, with 10 automatic bids. I think it's the same this year, with the Big 10 taking the place of the ECAC.
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Men's lacrosse (#13 in the country) remains unbeaten by knocking off Jackonsville 12-10 late this afternoon. Team is now 6-0. They play Mercer on Sunday then after a few weeks break start the Big East schedule against Georgetown and Villanova.
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Men's lacrosse (#13 in the country) remains unbeaten by knocking off Jackonsville 12-10 late this afternoon. Team is now 6-0. They play Mercer on Sunday then after a few weeks break start the Big East schedule against Georgetown and Villanova.
Where does the LAX team play home games? And do they move outdoors here as the spring come along?
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Where does the LAX team play home games? And do they move outdoors here as the spring come along?
They play at Hart Park in Tosa.
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This is likely a dumb question, but wondering why they don't play home games in the Valley? Is it because Hart has Turf?
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This is likely a dumb question, but wondering why they don't play home games in the Valley? Is it because Hart has Turf?
I think it has more to do with available seating. Not many bleachers in the valley.
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There are 3 home games scheduled for this season. April 4th we host St. John's. April 18th we host Duke (currently ranked #5 in the country) and the following week we host #4 Denver who is a playing member of the Big East.
Right now we are up on Mercer 11-1, with about 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
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Marquette 14, Mercer 6. Final.
Team is now 7-0.
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https://twitter.com/muathletics
MU ranked 10th.
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I think it has more to do with available seating. Not many bleachers in the valley.
Seriously? So the team has to truck out to 'tosa when Valley Fields is right there? That needs to change, no?
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They are building a new indoor practice facility on campus. That will allow is to host games, on campus, during the early spring.
To be ranked 10th in the country during what is the infancy of the program is pretty much unheard of. We have definitely beaten some quality teams in THE Ohio State University, Lehigh and Hofstra. However, it's quite possible that a lot of the teams we've beat have underestimated us.
The real test in going to be at the end, however. Our three last games are against Notre Dame, Duke and Denver. They are currently ranked #4, #5 and #3 respectively.
Regardless of how they finish I think we should all be very proud of the job the team has done this year. I mean, think about it. #10 in the country. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined we would be where we are now. A very exciting time, indeed.
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They are building a new indoor practice facility on campus. That will allow is to host games, on campus, during the early spring.
To be ranked 10th in the country during what is the infancy of the program is pretty much unheard of. We have definitely beaten some quality teams in THE Ohio State University, Lehigh and Hofstra. However, it's quite possible that a lot of the teams we've beat have underestimated us.
The real test in going to be at the end, however. Our three last games are against Notre Dame, Duke and Denver. They are currently ranked #4, #5 and #3 respectively.
Regardless of how they finish I think we should all be very proud of the job the team has done this year. I mean, think about it. #10 in the country. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined we would be where we are now. A very exciting time, indeed.
Extremely impressive. Just hope MU can build on this initial success. Add quality recruits...and most importantly, hold on to the head coach.
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Seriously? So the team has to truck out to 'tosa when Valley Fields is right there? That needs to change, no?
Maybe. When Duke played at Hart Park there was about 4,000 at the game.
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This is a photo from Morgan State's Lacrosse wikipedia page. An HBCU. Why are you saying its Whitney Young's team? Is it possible that you typed in "all black lacrosse team" into google but couldn't find any high schools so you took the first picture you saw and said it was from a random CPS school? All to try to say Chick is wrong? C'mon man. Plus, this picture is from 1975, not 2008. Do you see the haircuts and outfits?
Here's the search results from googling "all black lacrosse team" https://www.google.com/search?q=all+black+lacrosse+team&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS565US565&espv=2&biw=1536&bih=777&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ajLrVJTcJ8O5ggSAroDAAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg
Here's the wikipedia page the picture is taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_State_Bears_lacrosse
And here's a picture of Whitney Young's actual LAX Team:
(http://themash.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/WY_lacrosse2_john_booz.jpg)
This season Hampton University became the 1st HBCU with a D1 Lacrosse Team.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/how-a-grieving-mom-achieved-her-sons-dream-a-black-college-lacrosse-team/2016/02/11/946fe286-d0e4-11e5-90d3-34c2c42653ac_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/how-a-grieving-mom-achieved-her-sons-dream-a-black-college-lacrosse-team/2016/02/11/946fe286-d0e4-11e5-90d3-34c2c42653ac_story.html)
Morgan State was the last HBCU to field a men’s team, but that squad disbanded 35 years ago. While Howard and Delaware State feature women’s programs.
Interesting to read that African American participation has been slowly increasing in lacrosse. According to the NCAA’s participation data, nearly 86 percent of men’s college lacrosse players last year were white, compared with 3.5 percent black. Five years ago, 91.4 percent of men’s players were white and only 2.2 were black. All of the Hampton players are African American.
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Not sure how this topic isn't Superbar, but anyway....
At the Nova game, I met a kid (wearing MU gear-one of the very few) and his dad from Maryland who is an MU Lax commit. It was his 4th MU bball game of the year. No family or other prior allegiance to the school. Very cool to see that kind of total buy-in to MU.
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Maybe. When Duke played at Hart Park there was about 4,000 at the game.
Home games are at Valley Fields this year.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-lacros/sched/marq-m-lacros-sched.html
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What an odd thread bump. Thanks for sharing Macallan
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This season Hampton University became the 1st HBCU with a D1 Lacrosse Team.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/how-a-grieving-mom-achieved-her-sons-dream-a-black-college-lacrosse-team/2016/02/11/946fe286-d0e4-11e5-90d3-34c2c42653ac_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/how-a-grieving-mom-achieved-her-sons-dream-a-black-college-lacrosse-team/2016/02/11/946fe286-d0e4-11e5-90d3-34c2c42653ac_story.html)
Morgan State was the last HBCU to field a men’s team, but that squad disbanded 35 years ago. While Howard and Delaware State feature women’s programs.
Interesting to read that African American participation has been slowly increasing in lacrosse. According to the NCAA’s participation data, nearly 86 percent of men’s college lacrosse players last year were white, compared with 3.5 percent black. Five years ago, 91.4 percent of men’s players were white and only 2.2 were black. All of the Hampton players are African American.
It takes a long time to become a talented lacrosse player. The skills required to use the stick do not come overnight even if a guy is a great athlete. Thus is becomes a multi year very expensive proposition to do what it takes to become a high level lacrosse player. It is also an equivalency sport . Most good athletes want to be in full scholarship sports. Hampton actually has very good facilities and if their administration is willing to stick with it over the long term they could probably be a decent program and my sense is that they will actually end up with a diverse team.
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Looks like there will be a couple televised games on FS1 (G-Town) and CBS Sports Network (Denver - the other side of the BE). I just may watch my first lacrosse games.
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Home games are at Valley Fields this year.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-lacros/sched/marq-m-lacros-sched.html
I know. You were quoting me from something from March of 2015.
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Let's hope this doesn't mirror MU women's volleyball. Taste some success...and the coach takes off for greener pastures.
Bond Shymansky did go to Iowa.
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fox sports go:
Men's Lacrosse
Saturday, April 9 at 3 p.m. Providence at Georgetown
tv schedule:
Sunday, Feb. 28 at 3:30 p.m. Dartmouth at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse ALT
Saturday, March 5 at 11:30 p.m. DENVER at North Carolina, Men's Lacrosse ESPNU*
Sunday, March 13 at 5:30 p.m. DENVER at Notre Dame, Men's Lacrosse ESPNU
Saturday, March 19 at 3 p.m. Ohio State at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse FCS
Saturday, March 26 at 1 p.m. GEORGETOWN at MARQUETTE, Men's Lacrosse FS1
Saturday, April 2 at 11 a.m. DENVER at GEORGETOWN, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Saturday, April 9 at 12 p.m. DENVER at Villanova, Men's Lacrosse FCS
Saturday, April 16 at 3 p.m. ST. JOHN'S at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse ALT
Saturday, April 16 at 5 p.m. GEORGETOWN at VILLANOVA, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Saturday, April 23 at 12 p.m. VILLANOVA at ST. JOHN'S, Men's Lacrosse FCS
Saturday, April 23 at 7 p.m. Virginia at GEORGETOWN, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Saturday, April 30 at 3 p.m. MARQUETTE at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Thursday, May 5 at 6:30 p.m. BIG EAST Men's Lacrosse Championship Semifinal 1 CBSSN
Thursday, May 5 at 9 p.m. BIG EAST Men's Lacrosse Championship Semifinal 2 CBSSN
Saturday, May 7 at 2 p.m. BIG EAST Women's Lacrosse Championship FS2
Saturday, May 7 at 4:30 p.m. BIG EAST Men's Lacrosse Championship FS2
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fox sports go:
Men's Lacrosse
Saturday, April 9 at 3 p.m. Providence at Georgetown
tv schedule:
Sunday, Feb. 28 at 3:30 p.m. Dartmouth at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse ALT
Saturday, March 5 at 11:30 p.m. DENVER at North Carolina, Men's Lacrosse ESPNU*
Sunday, March 13 at 5:30 p.m. DENVER at Notre Dame, Men's Lacrosse ESPNU
Saturday, March 19 at 3 p.m. Ohio State at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse FCS
Saturday, March 26 at 1 p.m. GEORGETOWN at MARQUETTE, Men's Lacrosse FS1
Saturday, April 2 at 11 a.m. DENVER at GEORGETOWN, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Saturday, April 9 at 12 p.m. DENVER at Villanova, Men's Lacrosse FCS
Saturday, April 16 at 3 p.m. ST. JOHN'S at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse ALT
Saturday, April 16 at 5 p.m. GEORGETOWN at VILLANOVA, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Saturday, April 23 at 12 p.m. VILLANOVA at ST. JOHN'S, Men's Lacrosse FCS
Saturday, April 23 at 7 p.m. Virginia at GEORGETOWN, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Saturday, April 30 at 3 p.m. MARQUETTE at DENVER, Men's Lacrosse CBSSN
Thursday, May 5 at 6:30 p.m. BIG EAST Men's Lacrosse Championship Semifinal 1 CBSSN
Thursday, May 5 at 9 p.m. BIG EAST Men's Lacrosse Championship Semifinal 2 CBSSN
Saturday, May 7 at 2 p.m. BIG EAST Women's Lacrosse Championship FS2
Saturday, May 7 at 4:30 p.m. BIG EAST Men's Lacrosse Championship FS2
Thanks for posting. I may also watch my first Lacrosse game this year. Cool that the Georgetown game will be hosted by MU and broadcast on FS1. Should be fun to watch.
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We are #16 in the pre-season poll. We had our first game this past Saturday. We beat Bellarmine (a small con elation for hoops, I know). They actually beat us in last year's opening game.
I live in Connecticut. In March we are playing Quinnipiac University in Hamden (which borders New Haven). Another MU alum (and former lacrosse club President) Dave Sullivan (who also lives here) will be graciously hosting the team and coaches for a pre-game meal.
As I've said before, if you told me 25+ years ago when we were searching all of our couches for enough gas money to get to Ripon for a game, that we'd ever get to this point I would laughed in your face.
Meanwhile, the task at hand is beating Creighton tonight and getting on a hot streak headed into the Big East tourney. Go Warriors!!!
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We are #16 in the pre-season poll. We had our first game this past Saturday. We beat Bellarmine (a small con elation for hoops, I know). They actually beat us in last year's opening game.
I live in Connecticut. In March we are playing Quinnipiac University in Hamden (which borders New Haven). Another MU alum (and former lacrosse club President) Dave Sullivan (who also lives here) will be graciously hosting the team and coaches for a pre-game meal.
As I've said before, if you told me 25+ years ago when we were searching all of our couches for enough gas money to get to Ripon for a game, that we'd ever get to this point I would laughed in your face.
Meanwhile, the task at hand is beating Creighton tonight and getting on a hot streak headed into the Big East tourney. Go Warriors!!!
March 19 @ QU
That's 10/15 minutes from my house. I might have to go to that!
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I watched the game on Saturday in person. Marquette had a slow start falling behind 3-0. They look much better at the face off position. They also have two really solid scorers. They could get better at clearing the ball on defense.
Overall, I much preferred Valley Fields over Hart Park for the smaller crowd. The field setup was nice. You could see campus from the game. I felt much closer to the action. The crowd felt bigger because the seating area was smaller.
I expect the program to gradually improve.
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Marquette vs. Georgetown on FS1 today at noon.
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Awesome. Thanks for bumping. Plan to watch. Go Marquette!
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Baby blues, free jersey giveaway, beautiful day in the Valley and McNamara with a hat trick just after halftime. ;D
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I need a laxbro to explain the rules.
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McNamara heat check!
Sock trick possible? Six goals apparently. Never heard that term.
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I need a laxbro to explain the rules.
What part are you wondering about?
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I suppose the 'long stick' rules relative to the offensive zone stuff. Seems like when you achieve the box things change.
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These were the uniforms the lacrosse team wore today. Clearly a tip of the cap to the great basketball teams of the 70s.
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Just saw this thread - wish I'd seen earlier that we were on TV today.
I've seen one LAX game in my life - MU @ GTown when we were at the hoops Sweet Sixteen in DC. It was on the off day after we beat Miami, and we had a great time.
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G'Town was 1-7 coming in and almost beat us. Was it one of those games where G'Town is better than their record, or did MU just not play well, or not as good as their record?
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These were the uniforms the lacrosse team wore today. Clearly a tip of the cap to the great basketball teams of the 70s.
Those are beautiful.
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These were the uniforms the lacrosse team wore today. Clearly a tip of the cap to the great basketball teams of the 70s.
Nice. Maybe they'll break out bumblebees for their next match. ;)
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Georgetown played a brutal pre-conference schedule. They played 5 Top 20 teams right out of the box. They're young too but certainly better than their record indicates. We play Villanova soon. They are ranked #8 (and will probably move up after a day filled with upsets-including #1 Denver getting rolled by unranked Penn State). That will be a real test of where we stand.
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Lacrosse team just rolled #5 Villanova 11-3. Huge win. We should jump into the Top 20 when the next poll is released.
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Getting elite in LAX.
Just need hockey now.
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Big win.
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MU ranked #17
Won at St. John's today.
Huge match middle of the week at #1 Notre Dame
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Getting elite in LAX.
Just need hockey now.
Whoa Nellie, keep rubbin' yo beads, hey?
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We have an exceptional coach in Lax. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Where is he going?
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We have an exceptional coach in Lax. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Wojo to LAX coach
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Where is he going?
Nowhere but I am sure he will be gone when the next ACC or Big Ten job opens up.
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Lacrosse is unwatchable and will never be a revenue generating sport. Pretty much in the same league as water polo. Great sports, but will always be niche. The college sport of the future will be rugby 7s. Translates wonderfully to big stadiums and TV, is an international sport, and as of this summer is an Olympic event. Plus elite Lacrosse players are notorious butt heads.
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Lacrosse is unwatchable and will never be a revenue generating sport. Pretty much in the same league as water polo. Great sports, but will always be niche. The college sport of the future will be rugby 7s. Translates wonderfully to big stadiums and TV, is an international sport, and as of this summer is an Olympic event. Plus elite Lacrosse players are notorious butt heads.
Having played Lax for roughly 10yrs, I agree with you 100%. I disagree about Rugby, too much drinking culture around it and too much of a lawsuit nightmare to ever be taken seriously by the NCAA and without them it's not going to get played in the massive stadiums. Hockey on the other hand is growing in popularity all across the country. I'd say that is the college sport of the future.
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Rugby is a (and has always been) a big youth sport in the bay area. There is an incredible sportsmanship culture at that level. 7s eliminates many of the injury issues that are tied to big contested scrums in 15s and to be honest is more fun to watch. It will be interesting to see what happens. College hockey has been fantastic for a while. I never watch the NHL, but will always watch the frozen 4.
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Rugby is a (and has always been) a big youth sport in the bay area. There is an incredible sportsmanship culture at that level. 7s eliminates many of the injury issues that are tied to big contested scrums in 15s and to be honest is more fun to watch. It will be interesting to see what happens. College hockey has been fantastic for a while. I never watch the NHL, but will always watch the frozen 4.
You still have the drinking culture tied behind it. It's not going to get traction from the ncaa. Plus lets be honest here Rugby players aren't much better than the elite lax bros you were hating on. At least three had the stupidity to challenge me to a boxing match at my parties back at MU and one more outside of Murphys.
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We'll see. MU rugby was never a real sport, only an excuse to drink. Not that I can "hate" on that since I spent many formative hours in the 'Lanche.
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Lacrosse is unwatchable and will never be a revenue generating sport. Pretty much in the same league as water polo. Great sports, but will always be niche. The college sport of the future will be rugby 7s. Translates wonderfully to big stadiums and TV, is an international sport, and as of this summer is an Olympic event. Plus elite Lacrosse players are notorious butt heads.
Yes it is a niche sport but it is played at the D1 level at 70 mens schools and 111 womans schools, 65 D 2 for men and 129 D2 for women and 227 D3 schools for men and 273 D3 schools for women. So there is a pretty big embedded base. Then figure in that team sizes are in the mid 40s and only 12 scholarships, the gross revenue to the school is pretty good.
Here is a good article from about a year ago that mentions Marquette Lacrosse and the growth of the sport.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/23/sports/as-lacrosse-rises-its-final-four-falls-fast.html?_r=0
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You still have the drinking culture tied behind it. It's not going to get traction from the ncaa. Plus lets be honest here Rugby players aren't much better than the elite lax bros you were hating on. At least three had the stupidity to challenge me to a boxing match at my parties back at MU and one more outside of Murphys.
Maybe that's the case at MU. But if you watch competitive collegiate or professional rugby the respect they have for the other team and referees is tremendous. If a Rugby player even talks back in the slightest to a referee they are pretty much ejected immediately.
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Maybe that's the case at MU. But if you watch competitive collegiate or professional rugby the respect they have for the other team and referees is tremendous. If a Rugby player even talks back in the slightest to a referee they are pretty much ejected immediately.
Collegiate rugby... three of my ex girl friends played at MU, Loyola and Depaul and my best female friend played at MU and plays post college (none of them were big butch girls, I'll prove it dammit) but in my considerable experience of going to their post game "socials" I've learned that it's a drinking culture. Nothing wrong with it but it's something that the NCAA won't condone.
Now back to the men's side, how does that compare to other sports being discussed? I've never seen a lax player start complaining about a call, same in hockey. I was only referring to his comment that Lax bros were Dbags with my own personal experience that Rugby guys are not much better and frankly more violent (but should learn their place when it comes to violence)
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Bags - when we're u at MU?
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Bags - when we're u at MU?
2009-2014
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Collegiate rugby... three of my ex girl friends played at MU, Loyola and Depaul and my best female friend played at MU and plays post college (none of them were big butch girls, I'll prove it dammit)
Please do!
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MU vs #1 ND tonight!
Go Warriors
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MU vs #1 ND tonight!
Go Warriors
Isn't Yale ranked #1 in LAX right now?
Plenty of local stories on them and they've been destroying teams.
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Isn't Yale ranked #1 in LAX right now?
Plenty of local stories on them and they've been destroying teams.
Nope
ND #1
Yale #2
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1
http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/nike_lacrosse_magazine_top_20/index
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Nope
ND #1
Yale #2
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1
http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/nike_lacrosse_magazine_top_20/index
Yale was. They're still undefeated. Must be the case of ND being more impressive to the voters lately or something.
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Lacrosse is unwatchable and will never be a revenue generating sport. Pretty much in the same league as water polo. Great sports, but will always be niche. The college sport of the future will be rugby 7s. Translates wonderfully to big stadiums and TV, is an international sport, and as of this summer is an Olympic event. Plus elite Lacrosse players are notorious butt heads.
Maybe it is just me but I think lax is fun to watch, even on TV. I think the culture changes as it becomes more mainstream. Hopefully a good game this afternoon, tough stretch of schedule coming up at ND, PU at home then at Duke and at Denver. I would love MU to make the NCAA lax tourney. 7's is fun to watch too.
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This evening's game vs. Notre Dame is on ESPN3.
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Maybe it is just me but I think lax is fun to watch, even on TV. I think the culture changes as it becomes more mainstream. Hopefully a good game this afternoon, tough stretch of schedule coming up at ND, PU at home then at Duke and at Denver. I would love MU to make the NCAA lax tourney. 7's is fun to watch too.
I agree. Had a blast at the MU GTown lax game during the Sweet Sixteen in DC a few years back, and have watched a couple times since. Still, it'll be a long time (if ever) before it gets mainstream IMHO. Shame.
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Please do!
Google Oxford women's rugby. You're welcome.
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Now back to the men's side, how does that compare to other sports being discussed? I've never seen a lax player start complaining about a call, same in hockey. I was only referring to his comment that Lax bros were Dbags with my own personal experience that Rugby guys are not much better and frankly more violent (but should learn their place when it comes to violence)
I can't speak for LaCrosse, but hockey has always been a zero-tolerance sport when it comes to disagreement with call.
Most of this has to do with the reason you see those little C's (Captain) and A's (Alternate captain) on some players' jerseys... these are the only guys on the ice who are designated to speak with the referee about a call, and for the most part, the captains take this role very seriously, i.e. they don't lose their temper or make a big scene. Moreover, it's just generally understood that this communication is typically one-way, i.e. the referee tells the captain what happened and the captain tells the coach... rarely is there ever any argument by the captain mostly because the vast majority of the time, the captain didn't even see the infraction.
So hockey is set up to control the d-baggery on the ice; nevertheless, the second someone steps out of line or attempts to say anything to the officials, the referee slaps his hands to his hips (signaling a misconduct penalty, a motion identical to an offside signal in football) and that player sits for 10 minutes.
Also - and again, not sure about LAX or Rugby here - but in my experience, the guys on the hockey team who hit the hardest on the ice and sit in the penalty box the most are typically the most meek players on the team off the ice.
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Giddy Up!
Thank you Steve Cottingham for another great hiring.
C-ham was a winner, no doubt.
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Chris Grimm would have been a helluva Lacrosse player. Setting moving picks and passing it up high to him.
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ND up 2-1. About halfway through the 1st quarter. Goalie is keeping us in the game.
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ND 4-1. Two goals in the first 3 minutes of the 2nd quarter. Could get out of hand very quickly. I hate to admit it but ND is on a different level than us.
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Believe it or not Marquette has scored 3 unanswered. Tied 5-5 with 8:29 left.
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7-7
3 minutes left, rush the field.
Amplo!!
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Headed to OT.
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#1 ranked defense in country.
RPI: 16th
If only that were basketball....
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I think I'm gonna puke. 8-7 loss.
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Notre Dame!?*$!@!
(Fist in air.)
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This is a rivalry in the making.
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Senior Day today.
Keep in mind a lot of these kids joined the program during the literal infancy of the program.
Packed house.
We hang out to beat Providence 8-7. Takes us to 8-2 overall and 4-0 in the Big East.
Last two games (Duke and Denver) are huge.
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Good for them! If they beat duke and Denver will they make the tourney? Or do they have to try to go to the VEGAS 16?
But seriously. What happens next cause good on them!
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Good for them! If they beat duke and Denver will they make the tourney? Or do they have to try to go to the VEGAS 16?
But seriously. What happens next cause good on them!
I think if they beat Duke and get to the final of the Big East Tournament they will go to the tournament. The same factors used for basketball are in play, quality wins, rpi , sos etc
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I think if they beat Duke and get to the final of the Big East Tournament they will go to the tournament. The same factors used for basketball are in play, quality wins, rpi , sos etc
Well, we know the lacrosse team hasn't played any RPI +300 cupcakes, so that bodes well for their tourney chances.
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Marquette moves up to #15 in the latest poll released today. One spot ahead of Duke. Makes Friday's game essentially a must win.
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Marquette moves up to #15 in the latest poll released today. One spot ahead of Duke. Makes Friday's game essentially a must win.
Boggles my mind that they are 15 in the country and not a lock for the tournament. How small is the field?
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Boggles my mind that they are 15 in the country and not a lock for the tournament. How small is the field?
16. Make sense now?
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16. Make sense now?
Yes. That's quite silly. Any reason they can't at least open it up to 32?
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Yes. That's quite silly. Any reason they can't at least open it up to 32?
$$$$$$
All the money to run these tournaments comes out of the NCAA basketball tv contract. The money that so many folks want to give to the .1% as payment, is used to give all these other opportunities to men, women, etc, that don't play in a revenue sport.
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$$$$$$
All the money to run these tournaments comes out of the NCAA basketball tv contract. The money that so many folks want to give to the .1% as payment, is used to give all these other opportunities to men, women, etc, that don't play in a revenue sport.
It looks like most conferences get their men's Lacrosse tournaments on TV (CBSSports, NBCSports, ESPNU, ESPN3, etc.).
Why wouldn't the NCAA tournament, all the more important, be able to generate revenue on such a sports network? Sure, it wouldn't be a huge contract, but it would at least be revenue positive.
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$$$$$$
All the money to run these tournaments comes out of the NCAA basketball tv contract. The money that so many folks want to give to the .1% as payment, is used to give all these other opportunities to men, women, etc, that don't play in a revenue sport.
I'm not sure what the .1% number you're referencing is; percent of college students in athletics?
Also, in 1995, ESPN paid $19 million for lacrosse tv rights for 8 yrs.
Can't seem to find info on its latest deal.
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Yes. That's quite silly. Any reason they can't at least open it up to 32?
There are only 70 teams in D-1
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Marquette v Duke just about to face off on ESPN 3. If you don't have that as part of your cable you can access the game via the gomarquette.com website and clicking on the link.
Huge game tonight. Likely scenario is of we win, we're in, regardless of how we do in the last game versus Denver (who is currently ranked #2).
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Wow was that an asskicking
1-16
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I'm not sure what the .1% number you're referencing is; percent of college students in athletics?
Also, in 1995, ESPN paid $19 million for lacrosse tv rights for 8 yrs.
Can't seem to find info on its latest deal.
% of college students that end up professional athletes
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Marquette v Duke just about to face off on ESPN 3. If you don't have that as part of your cable you can access the game via the gomarquette.com website and clicking on the link.
Huge game tonight. Likely scenario is of we win, we're in, regardless of how we do in the last game versus Denver (who is currently ranked #2).
I watched the replay on ESPN3 about 10 minutes ago. Skipped through most of it. What a trouncing. Either Duke is amazing and vastly under ranked, or Notre Dame isn't anywhere close to #1. Game was tied 1-1. Then they scored 15 unanswered.
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We just got our buts kicked by a more talented team that had everything going right. Lacrosse is a game like basketball where there are a lot of runs and we had none. Coach Amplo will have the boys up and ready to go for the Big East tournament.
Unfortunately I think this loss sealed our fate in terms of the NCAA tournament as an at large pick. We have to win conference now.
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We just got our buts kicked by a more talented team that had everything going right. Lacrosse is a game like basketball where there are a lot of runs and we had none. Coach Amplo will have the boys up and ready to go for the Big East tournament.
Unfortunately I think this loss sealed our fate in terms of the NCAA tournament as an at large pick. We have to win conference now.
As of Monday (aka before losing to Duke), the NCAA's selection committee had Marquette as the #9 team in the field, one spot outside getting a national seed and hosting a first round game.
https://twitter.com/LacrosseMag/status/723913125381197824
That's way better than I expected to see before that game, and might allow a little leeway.
Beating Denver either on Saturday or in the Big East title game (MU/DU will be #1/#2 in some fashion) is probably the safest way to guarantee it, though.
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As of Monday (aka before losing to Duke), the NCAA's selection committee had Marquette as the #9 team in the field, one spot outside getting a national seed and hosting a first round game.
https://twitter.com/LacrosseMag/status/723913125381197824
That's way better than I expected to see before that game, and might allow a little leeway.
Beating Denver either on Saturday or in the Big East title game (MU/DU will be #1/#2 in some fashion) is probably the safest way to guarantee it, though.
So what is a national seed?
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As of Monday (aka before losing to Duke), the NCAA's selection committee had Marquette as the #9 team in the field, one spot outside getting a national seed and hosting a first round game.
https://twitter.com/LacrosseMag/status/723913125381197824
That's way better than I expected to see before that game, and might allow a little leeway.
Beating Denver either on Saturday or in the Big East title game (MU/DU will be #1/#2 in some fashion) is probably the safest way to guarantee it, though.
If we can regroup and play well against Denver and then beat Villanova to get in the final anything can happen. Have to put this loss behind us.
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So what is a national seed?
Top 8 teams in the tournament are seeded #1 through #8, regardless of where they're located, thus national. Teams #1 & #2 get the winners of one of the play-in games, and the remaining teams in the field are assigned a seeded team to play in the first round based on the least amount of travel for everyone involved.
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I have a client in Denver that played college lacrosse and he is attending tomorrow's game. He said snow in forecast.
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I have a client in Denver that played college lacrosse and he is attending tomorrow's game. He said snow in forecast.
What year? D1 Minnesota's head went there and played bball with Sinbad. Lots of MU targets.
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Funny enough, national seeds are in most ncaa sports. Lacrosse, baseball, hockey, softball.
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What year? D1 Minnesota's head went there and played bball with Sinbad. Lots of MU targets.
He lives in Denver, didn't play at UD. He played on east coast collegiately. Another client played at Georgetown, I would guess he is in his early 50's.
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National TV for Marquette on CBSSN at Denver. 2pm on Saturday
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He lives in Denver, didn't play at UD. He played on east coast collegiately. Another client played at Georgetown, I would guess he is in his early 50's.
How did the University of Dayton get into this conversation?
FWIW, the University of Denver goes by the moniker of DU, much like many other schools west of the Mississippi that invert their initials (KU, CU, etc.).
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How did the University of Dayton get into this conversation?
FWIW, the University of Denver goes by the moniker of DU, much like many other schools west of the Mississippi that invert their initials (KU, CU, etc.).
My apologies. Well aware of KU, as I'm an alum. Didn't realize Denver did the same.
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Well marquette's up one. Unfortunately no one has cbssn.
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Well marquette's up one. Unfortunately no one has cbssn.
I do.
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MU is down 3-4.
Camera needs a wipe.
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Down 3-5.
I have no idea what I'm watching, but it looks like they are getting worked.
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After some hockey like passing, some guy with a terrible first name and last name Clarke scores. Denver leads 5-4.
Camera getting worse.
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Camera got wiped and BOOM. MU ties it 5-5
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Well marquette's up one. Unfortunately no one has cbssn.
I do
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Kid woke up from nap, not sure what happened, but 6-6 going into the half. Camera in bad shape again.
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6-6 at half!
Just flipped it on... announcers talking on MU's new future facilities...
Announcer #1: That's what it's all about! The facilities. Kids don't care what the uniform looks like. They want facilities.
Announcer #2: Yeah, it's become more and more important!
Announcer #1: Yes! Those things are so important! It all starts with Oregon and their uniforms..
Uhh.. wait.. they do or don't care what uniforms look like?
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Ben Holden is a pretty solid announcer for CBSSN.
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6-6 at halftime.
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7-6 Denver
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These faceoffs are really strange to watch.
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These faceoffs are really strange to watch.
They just stick grinding in there? (nh)
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Getting away from the boys 9-6
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National Champs are now looking like champs. It's getting ugly as Marquette was looking for it's programs first signature win.
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National Champs are now looking like champs. It's getting ugly as Marquette was looking for it's programs first signature win.
its vs. it's
Decent comeback late in the game. Denver coach with some nice comments on MU... hope we meet & beat 'em next week.
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Next Saturday's Women's and Men's Big East Championship is on FS2.
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National Champs are now looking like champs. It's getting ugly as Marquette was looking for it's programs first signature win.
Nah, Nova was top 10 when MU stomped them at Valley Fields, 11-3. That's the win that's keeping the NCAA at-large bid hopes (barely) alive even after losses to Notre Dame, Duke, and Denver.
Marquette is now 0-12 against those three, though.
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No. 19 Marquette (9-4, 4-1 BIG EAST) vs. No. 16 Villanova (9-4, 3-2 BIG EAST)
Date Thursday, May 5 | 5:30 p.m. CT
Location Peter Barton Stadium | Denver, Colo.
TV: CBS Sports Network
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Interesting tidbit about MU Lacrosse (and maybe it's already been discussed on Scoop), but when MU decided to go with men's lacrosse they were very close to having men's volleyball instead. What it came down to was that non-revenue sports at Marquette are looked at as marketing tools for the school, and lacrosse fits a target audience that could bring in more and possibly higher end students to the school. Whereas volleyball would be traveling to places like Chicago (already get a lot of students from the area), Fort Wayne, IN (probably not a ton of kids whose heads would be turned by an MU athletics team being in town), Columbus, OH (maybe get a few extra kids from there?), Muncie, IN (see Fort Wayne), etc., you now have the team heading out northeast where kids who can afford an MU tuition (lacrosse is a pretty expensive sport) are seeing the team and starting to look into where Marquette University is, etc.
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Would have much preferred men's volleyball. Oh well.
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Interesting tidbit about MU Lacrosse (and maybe it's already been discussed on Scoop), but when MU decided to go with men's lacrosse they were very close to having men's volleyball instead. What it came down to was that non-revenue sports at Marquette are looked at as marketing tools for the school, and lacrosse fits a target audience that could bring in more and possibly higher end students to the school. Whereas volleyball would be traveling to places like Chicago (already get a lot of students from the area), Fort Wayne, IN (probably not a ton of kids whose heads would be turned by an MU athletics team being in town), Columbus, OH (maybe get a few extra kids from there?), Muncie, IN (see Fort Wayne), etc., you now have the team heading out northeast where kids who can afford an MU tuition (lacrosse is a pretty expensive sport) are seeing the team and starting to look into where Marquette University is, etc.
Plus, volleyball is mega-girly whereas lacrosse dudes drink beer, etc.
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Interesting tidbit about MU Lacrosse (and maybe it's already been discussed on Scoop), but when MU decided to go with men's lacrosse they were very close to having men's volleyball instead. What it came down to was that non-revenue sports at Marquette are looked at as marketing tools for the school, and lacrosse fits a target audience that could bring in more and possibly higher end students to the school. Whereas volleyball would be traveling to places like Chicago (already get a lot of students from the area), Fort Wayne, IN (probably not a ton of kids whose heads would be turned by an MU athletics team being in town), Columbus, OH (maybe get a few extra kids from there?), Muncie, IN (see Fort Wayne), etc., you now have the team heading out northeast where kids who can afford an MU tuition (lacrosse is a pretty expensive sport) are seeing the team and starting to look into where Marquette University is, etc.
Makes a lot of sense to me.
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Plus, volleyball is mega-girly whereas lacrosse dudes drink beer, etc.
Yeah I only wish more volleyball guys would trip out on LSD and punch more female cops in the face. Takes a real man to do that!
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Interesting tidbit about MU Lacrosse (and maybe it's already been discussed on Scoop), but when MU decided to go with men's lacrosse they were very close to having men's volleyball instead. What it came down to was that non-revenue sports at Marquette are looked at as marketing tools for the school, and lacrosse fits a target audience that could bring in more and possibly higher end students to the school. Whereas volleyball would be traveling to places like Chicago (already get a lot of students from the area), Fort Wayne, IN (probably not a ton of kids whose heads would be turned by an MU athletics team being in town), Columbus, OH (maybe get a few extra kids from there?), Muncie, IN (see Fort Wayne), etc., you now have the team heading out northeast where kids who can afford an MU tuition (lacrosse is a pretty expensive sport) are seeing the team and starting to look into where Marquette University is, etc.
MU had a whole strategic plan with lacrosse and You are correct it was to attract kids from East Coast high and other high end schools across the country. Bottom line is they have done that.
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Would have much preferred men's volleyball. Oh well.
Funny thing is there is barely nobody that has D1 men's volleyball.
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Funny thing is there is barely nobody that has D1 men's volleyball.
I'm very aware, I'm just skewed because I played in high school and coach. Illinois is like a top 3 state for boys volleyball. At least top 5 I should say.
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Marquette up 7-3 at halftime.
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Not much of a lacrosse fan, but it's always nice to see a successful MU team. I totally understand MU's thinking. Seems like to certainly opens the door wider to the East Coast. Not a bad move.
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11-7 us. End of 3rd quarter.
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Final 14-9. We play the winner of Denver/Providence Saturday for an automatic bid.
We now have 10 wins. No bad losses (ND, Denver, Duke and Ohio State). RPI is 15.
Incredible achievement in our 4th year with a team.
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Final 14-9. We play the winner of Denver/Providence Saturday for an automatic bid.
We now have 10 wins. No bad losses (ND, Denver, Duke and Ohio State). RPI is 15.
Incredible achievement in our 4th year with a team.
I don't follow the team that closely but do you think Amplo gets offered a big time job this offseason?
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I don't follow the team that closely but do you think Amplo gets offered a big time job this offseason?
Most likely he will be offered Princeton.
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I think it would be naive to think that other programs won't come calling. What he has done in such a short period of time is almost unheard of.
My sense is that the new indoor practice facility that is being built went a long way in showing Joe how dedicated Marquette is to making lacrosse have sustained success.
I don't think we lose him...just yet.
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I think it would be naive to think that other programs won't come calling. What he has done in such a short period of time is almost unheard of.
My sense is that the new indoor practice facility that is being built went a long way in showing Joe how dedicated Marquette is to making lacrosse have sustained success.
I don't think we lose him...just yet.
IP, IP.
Crean sucks.
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MU playing Denver for Big East Championship this afternoon. 3:30 CST Fox Sports 2
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1-0 MU
Lightning strikes in the area, both teams sent to the locker room....weather delay
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Most likely he will be offered Princeton.
Sigh. Is MU a stepping stone school in every sport???
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1-0 MU
Lightning strikes in the area, both teams sent to the locker room....weather delay
Tv?
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Tv?
Yes
Fox Sports 2. Channel 618 on Directv.
4-2 Denver in the second period.
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Sigh. Is MU a stepping stone school in every sport???
You expect that Marquette would be a better program than Princeton, who has won three national championships?
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7-2 DU
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MU trying to come back. Down 7-3...storming back to 7-6
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7-7
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MU 5 straight goals, takes 8-7 lead in the 3rd quarter
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6 straight....MU 9-7 late in 3rd quarter
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9-7 going into the 4th quarter. MU dominates 3rd quarter with 6-0 advantage
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Tv?
FS2. Incredible 3rd period. 9-7 MU
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Denver strikes early in 4th quarter
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9-9 Amplo pissed at the refs for the last two face off calls.
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10-9 MU with under 6 minutes to play
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10-9 MU, with 1:18 left in game. Time Out MU
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CHAMPIONS
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Wooohooi!
Feels good to be elite again in something.
Thank you Steve Cottingham.
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Huge win! Way to go Marquette!
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We won 10-9. NCAA here we come .
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Not only do we win the Big East but we knock off the #1 team in the country in the process, get an automatic bid to the NCAA tourney but we likely host a home game now!!!
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Anyone see Amplo's reaction? It was like a "what in the wold did we just pull off" kind of reaction. It was great.
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Busy all day so couldn't watch, but truly incredible how quickly Coach Amplo has made this program relevant. 5 years ago we didn't even have lacrosse. Amazing.
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Postgame is still on FS2
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These kids will run through a wall for Coach Amplo. They hustled and fought for every ground ball, which really made a difference in the outcome.
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Wow big F'in win. Huge for the program.
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Is Patrick Reed doing the announcing on FS2? It sounds like him.
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Is Patrick Reed doing the announcing on FS2? It sounds like him.
Yes
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http://blob:https%3A//vine.co/7670d68f-ab6a-444a-b345-268d995a8519
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NCAA Selection Show is Sunday Night at 8pm on ESPNU
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Here you go
https://vine.co/v/iQn0YhJj0LE
Can't embed vines it seems, not the latest version of SMF
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You expect that Marquette would be a better program than Princeton, who has won three national championships?
I would like to see MU hang on to a quality coach in my lifetime.
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Congrats to the LAX boys.
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I would like to see MU hang on to a quality coach in my lifetime.
I would like to sprout wings and fly.
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I would like to see MU hang on to a quality coach in my lifetime.
Bill Tierney, DU's coach, has only been there like 7 years after leaving power house Princeton. Coaches leave often.
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I would like to see MU hang on to a quality coach in my lifetime.
I think if we got a bubble up now, in advance of the new indoor facility it would help with retention. Coach would then have all the tools he needs to compete. Practicing outdoors in the middle of winter is a very hard sell.
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I would like to sprout wings and fly.
As lacrosse becomes a sport with a wider appeal at the high school level, will a Princeton still be able to compete for national championships or will their academic requirements make them less and less competitive when the lacrosse talent no longer resides mostly at the prep schools?
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As lacrosse becomes a sport with a wider appeal at the high school level, will a Princeton still be able to compete for national championships or will their academic requirements make them less and less competitive when the lacrosse talent no longer resides mostly at the prep schools?
I have no clue.
Groin just likes to whine and moan. Day of the biggest win in the program's history, and he still has to complain.
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How many teams make the NCAA Tournament in college lacrosse? And how many D1 teams are there in all of college lacrosse?
Did MU host Duke this year?
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I have no clue.
Groin just likes to whine and moan. Day of the biggest win in the program's history, and he still has to complain.
I was reponding to a post on this board. That's still alllowed here, isn't it.
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I was reponding to a post on this board. That's still alllowed here, isn't it.
So was I.
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I have no clue.
Groin just likes to whine and moan. Day of the biggest win in the program's history, and he still has to complain.
gotcha.
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How many teams make the NCAA Tournament in college lacrosse? And how many D1 teams are there in all of college lacrosse?
Did MU host Duke this year?
MU went at Duke this year and got destroyed, 16-1.
I thought 16 teams made it, but during the broadcast they said 18...which makes zero sense to me.
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How many teams make the NCAA Tournament in college lacrosse? And how many D1 teams are there in all of college lacrosse?
Did MU host Duke this year?
16 teams make the tournament they have a selection program on ESPNU on Sunday. I don't know how they determine who hosts the home game in the first round. Also they may have a play in this year. I dont exactly know.
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MU went at Duke this year and got destroyed, 16-1.
I thought 16 teams made it, but during the broadcast they said 18...which makes zero sense to me.
It has been 18 with two play in games. Probably due to smaller conferences qualifying and the big boys not wanting to give up seats.
But the interactive bracket at the NCAA site only shows 16.
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Sultan is right.
There are two play-in games. The winners of those games play the overall 1 and 2 seeds in the round of 16.
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Thanks on the clarification. I looked at the brackets and didn't see that, whereas with the men's tournament they show the play-in games. Appreciate the update.
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Outstanding! Congrats guys.
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Awesome accomplishment for Marquette lacrosse. I've watched a few games every year. To see them get to this level so fast is huge. It is even more so having to go throw Denver the defending national champion and number 1. This is definitely a signature win beating the big boys.
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18 schools make the ncaa men's tournament.
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69 division 1 ncaa men's lacrosse teams.
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-men/d1/ncaa-mens-lacrosse-rpi
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This should be good for recruiting.
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Fun Fact:
Today is the first time a Marquette team, in ANY sport, has beat the #1 ranked team in the country since DWade and the boys beat Kentucky.
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Whaddya know? They won in their baby blues.
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Automatic Bids
Syracuse, ACC
Loyola, Patroit League
Harford, American East
Air Force, Southern
Quinnipiac, MAAC
Hobart, NAC
Towson, CAA
Marquette, Big East
Maryland, Big Ten
Harvard vs Yale on Sunday for the final auto bid in the Ivy League
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Automatic Bids
Syracuse, ACC
Loyola, Patroit League
Harford, American East
Air Force, Southern
Quinnipiac, MAAC
Hobart, NAC
Towson, CAA
Marquette, Big East
Maryland, Big Ten
Harvard vs Yale on Sunday for the final auto bid in the Ivy League
Damn satisfying to see our MU name next to auto bid in an NCAA tournament
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Whaddya know? They won in their baby blues.
On national tv, too
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=7N949Ac5lZY
Post-game press conference. Overwhelmingly worth the 10 minutes to watch it.
The part where BJ Grill talks about what Joe has meant to him is phenomenal.
Enjoy.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=7N949Ac5lZY
Post-game press conference. Overwhelmingly worth the 10 minutes to watch it.
The part where BJ Grill talks about what Joe has meant to him is phenomenal.
Enjoy.
Good stuff. Also Tierney was great to MU as well
https://www.youtube.com/v/9E3on-WTFE0
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Highlights for those that missed the game
https://www.youtube.com/v/E7JtWEhttv0
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=7N949Ac5lZY
Post-game press conference. Overwhelmingly worth the 10 minutes to watch it.
The part where BJ Grill talks about what Joe has meant to him is phenomenal.
Enjoy.
Excellent thanks for posting this.
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Selection show coming up.
Hopefully they don't screw the Big East and play ND vs. Marquette in the first round.
wait a second....whatever just don't screw us by having to play someone we already have.
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National seed #6
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National seed #6
Playing the Tar Heels at home at 2:30 Saturday
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I'm gonna make it down....hopefully tickets are available the day of??
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I'm gonna make it down....hopefully tickets are available the day of??
Why wouldn't they be?
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Meant sold out.....capacity is what 3,000 in the valley.
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1:30 central time
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UNC beat Duke. A little unnerving considering how badly we got plowed by Duke, but transitive properties in sports aren't a good idea.
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UNC also lost to UMass and Hofstra (in Chapel Hill). They are definitely beatable.
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Meant sold out.....capacity is what 3,000 in the valley.
I think it is something like 1,000. I wonder if They move it to Hart Park which would seat 4500. Hopefully the weather is bad.
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How much would each Scooper have to contribute to get MU's #21 a haircut?
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I would think this will be a hot ticket especially for all the Milw. area high school lacrosse families. First time to see this level really.
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How much would each Scooper have to contribute to get MU's #21 a haircut?
That would be like cutting Sampson's hair.
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Game will be played at Valley Field. Listed capacity is 1,600. Don't no what it can house for standing room only.
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I've been at soccer matches with full stands and side areas....I'd guess it's about 3k.
When is Crean mailing that check?
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I've been at soccer matches with full stands and side areas....I'd guess it's about 3k.
When is Crean mailing that check?
They sell them online. No need to wait until day of game.
Looks like they aren't up yet on the website, though.
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UNC also lost to UMass and Hofstra (in Chapel Hill). They are definitely beatable.
Agree. I'm still mind blown at that Duke score. I watched some of the game and it was like we went into the fetal position. Very strange. This team has stood up against the biggest of the bigs, but that game was bizarre.
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How much would each Scooper have to contribute to get MU's #21 a haircut?
That's Sampson's strength...leave it alone!! :D
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I've been at soccer matches with full stands and side areas....I'd guess it's about 3k.
When is Crean mailing that check?
I think the Lacrosse field they set up has a smaller capacity. Hopefully they move it to the soccer field.
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Keep in mind, students will be gone by Saturday so cannot count on a big student turnout. Will be families and people from local community. Not sure how many area HS's field Lacrosse teams, but would be a good idea to give tickets away if need be to some of these local programs.
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Good stuff. Also Tierney was great to MU as well
https://www.youtube.com/v/9E3on-WTFE0
great videos
Very classy statements by the Denver coach.
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Tickets for Saturday's NCAA tourney game go on sale at 10 a.m. tomorrow here:
http://www.gomarquette.com/
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Lotta North Carolina fans talking crap on twitter already. Gonna be real fun when the lose to another Big East school in the post season.
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I hear McNamara only scores easy goals.
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I think the Lacrosse field they set up has a smaller capacity. Hopefully they move it to the soccer field.
They moved it to the soccer field. The place is going to be loud and snakepit atmosphere. Hopefully we will have a few trains coming by in the background to set the tone.
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Keep in mind, students will be gone by Saturday so cannot count on a big student turnout. Will be families and people from local community. Not sure how many area HS's field Lacrosse teams, but would be a good idea to give tickets away if need be to some of these local programs.
First day of Senior Week. I think loud and rowdy might happen.
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Tickets for Saturday's NCAA tourney game go on sale at 10 a.m. tomorrow here:
http://www.gomarquette.com/
Just got an email from Amy in the athletic department - the information I was given yesterday was wrong. Tickets actually go on sale on Wednesday at 10 a.m.
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"All Marquette student tickets will be provided free of charge, courtesy of MU head coach Joe Amplo"
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Well, if you believe in bulletin board material stuff (some do, some don't), we are definitely providing a few items for UNC.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/marquette-will-host-north-carolina-in-mens-lacrosse-tournament-b99721470z1-378600866.html
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Well, if you believe in bulletin board material stuff (some do, some don't), we are definitely providing a few items for UNC.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/marquette-will-host-north-carolina-in-mens-lacrosse-tournament-b99721470z1-378600866.html
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The punch 'em in the mouth comment?
Will NC even be aware of that? Will it overcome Marquette getting dissed by ESPN analyst Quint Kessenich? (I know the NC players heard that comment). If I was the NC coach I'd be more worried about overconfidence.
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Paul Rabil on Sirius XM was as shocked about MU getting an #6 seed. I think everyone was. Since, they were a bubble team entering the BET.
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Paul Rabil on Sirius XM was as shocked about MU getting an #6 seed. I think everyone was. Since, they were a bubble team entering the BET.
Paul Rabil is also a giant tool. Lacrosse is a very east coast bias sport. (with the exception of Denver) If something doesn't go according to plan then it must be wrong.
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How much does it suck for Albany that they have to play in the Carrier Dome? Is that where Syracuse plays all their home games? Seems like a decided advantage for the Orange, just from the standpoint of playing conditions.
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To be completely honest we probably are seeded a bit high. In the latest poll we jumped from 18 to 8. Even that might be a bit generous.
That being said, we are peaking at the right time. With the exception of the Duke game (which, in my opinion was an absolute anomaly) we have played every single team close.
As for the comments from the Marquette locker room, this team absolutely has a chip on their shoulder. They need to. No one is giving them a chance. They have been close in every single game and played some excellent, excellent teams.
I'd be disappointed, frankly, if our players didn't show some fire in their bellies. Hopefully that translates into the field Saturday.
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How much does it suck for Albany that they have to play in the Carrier Dome? Is that where Syracuse plays all their home games? Seems like a decided advantage for the Orange, just from the standpoint of playing conditions.
Army won an ncaa game couple of years ago at Syracuse. If I'm Albany, I'm juiced for this game!
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Paul Rabil is also a giant tool. Lacrosse is a very east coast bias sport. (with the exception of Denver) If something doesn't go according to plan then it must be wrong.
I agree with this analysis.
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How much does it suck for Albany that they have to play in the Carrier Dome? Is that where Syracuse plays all their home games? Seems like a decided advantage for the Orange, just from the standpoint of playing conditions.
Carrier Dome holds a metric ton of people, so all the Albany fans that want to go to the game will be able to get in, though.
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according to twitter - tickets sold out in 20 min. should be a fun atmosphere.
success = fan response. i think that is pretty obvious, but this is another example. If anyone wonders why mubb fan attendance is down, start here.
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Move the game to Miller Park!!!
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Does anyone know if the second round goes to a neutral site or will MU be traveling to some other team's home it they make the next round?
Hopefully, not too many of the tickets went to NC.
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Move the game to Miller Park!!!
From a rowdy environment to a graveyard.
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From a rowdy environment to a graveyard.
Not if it sells out.
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Does anyone know if the second round goes to a neutral site or will MU be traveling to some other team's home it they make the next round?
Hopefully, not too many of the tickets went to NC.
Second round game will be neutral site at Ohio State, likely against ND.
http://laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/2015-16/news/050816_ncaa_division_i_mens_bracket_maryland_grabs_top_seed
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Second round game will be neutral site at Ohio State, likely against ND.
http://laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/2015-16/news/050816_ncaa_division_i_mens_bracket_maryland_grabs_top_seed
Safe to say that tickets will be readily available if Marquette advances.
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WHEN Marquette advances...
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WHEN Marquette advances...
Yeah! Shame on you, Andy.
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Additional room has been made available. More tickets on sale tomorrow.
I would absolutely love to be there Saturday. Unfortunately I can't get it done. Hopefully, it's the first of many, many more home games in the NCAA tournament.
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Ticket Update: Additional student tickets available at 10 AM, GA on sale at 2 PM TOMORROW. go.mu.edu/16ncaaLAX
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Ticket Update: Additional student tickets available at 10 AM, GA on sale at 2 PM TOMORROW. go.mu.edu/16ncaaLAX
Adding some end zones seats in the east end. That will be a great vantage point to watch the game. Going to be a great environment.
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The punch 'em in the mouth comment?
Will NC even be aware of that? Will it overcome Marquette getting dissed by ESPN analyst Quint Kessenich? (I know the NC players heard that comment). If I was the NC coach I'd be more worried about overconfidence.
As stated, some believe that stuff motivates, some don't. Would they be aware of it? Of course. It's the internet, they have assistant coaches looking for that kind of stuff. Does it work? All kinds of arguments on both sides of that.
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Adding some end zones seats in the east end. That will be a great vantage point to watch the game. Going to be a great environment.
Really more putting up the netting to allow people to sit in the Birdcage area of the soccer seating.
If you end up sitting over there, I suggest double checking the tension on the netting. Don't want it to have a lot of give before the ball loses its velocity, y'know?
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Yeah! Shame on you, Andy.
Marquette is 1-12 lifetime against Denver, Duke, and Notre Dame, and the one just happened.
Don't get me wrong, I've already checked Google Maps to get an idea of how long the drive from Milwaukee to Columbus is......
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Anyone selling tix?
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Anyone selling tix?
More tickets on sale at 2:00pm. Try the athletics website.
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More tickets on sale at 2:00pm. Try the athletics website.
There is a guy selling them on StubHub for $500 apiece.
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The extra tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes. I got mine.
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There is a guy selling them on StubHub for $500 apiece.
......... I thought you were joking for a moment there..... and then I went and looked....
http://www.stubhub.com/marquette-university-golden-eagles-lacrosse-tickets-marquette-vs-north-carolina-5-14-2016/event/9582646/?mbox=1&rS=0&sliderpos=false
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The extra tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes. I got mine.
They could have sold this out at Hart Park. But I think having it on Campus gives us a very nice home field advantage.
I hope somehow they could have our band down there. I love when they cut to Ring Out Ahoya right after the national anthem.
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Would be even better if William J. Geisheker made an appearance, hey?
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Would be even better if William J. Geisheker made an appearance, hey?
http://cdm16280.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16280coll1/id/7086
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They could have sold this out at Hart Park. But I think having it on Campus gives us a very nice home field advantage.
Hart Park doesn't have the ability to accomodate the TV setup needed.
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Hart Park doesn't have the ability to accomodate the TV setup needed.
The Duke game last year was on CBS Sports Network.
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The Duke game last year was on CBS Sports Network.
Well, that's the story the Athletic Deparent is telling. Maybe ESPN has different requirements.
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Well, that's the story the Athletic Deparent is telling. Maybe ESPN has different requirements.
They are referring to moving from the lacrosse field at Valley Fields they set up earlier this year to the grass soccer field. The soccer field has more of a traditional press box.
http://www.gomarquette.com/view.gal?id=144186
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I wonder if Marquette just doesn't want to pay to rent Hart Park and the coach likes the "home field" of Valley Field. TV is at Hart Park all the time. TWCSC & national TV in CBSSN.
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Ya mean da Thomas Crean Memorial Soccer Complex, ai na?
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I wonder if Marquette just doesn't want to pay to rent Hart Park and the coach likes the "home field" of Valley Field. TV is at Hart Park all the time. TWCSC & national TV in CBSSN.
Do you honestly think Marquette would cheap out on the biggest non-basketball athletic event in recent memory? Especially if they could more than make it up on the increased ticket sales?
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I wonder if Marquette just doesn't want to pay to rent Hart Park and the coach likes the "home field" of Valley Field. TV is at Hart Park all the time. TWCSC & national TV in CBSSN.
I think definitely that is the case.
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Well, that's the story the Athletic Deparent is telling. Maybe ESPN has different requirements.
Correct. Most programming on CBSSN is produced by the local and regional operators, just like Fox Sports North. These guys can setup a few cameras and broadcast from anywhere you can get a satellite downlink, but the national operators like FS1, ESPN, CBS, etc. require more of a "media-ready" setup with greater technology, which involves more than a sat truck and a bunch of cables.
One would think that the most technologically advanced broadcast teams would be able to be more versatile, but it's actually the opposite. For instance, Conway Farms in Lake Forest - in order to guarantee themselves the ability to host the BMW on a regular basis - had to bury several hundred miles of cable recently. I asked their club president (or whatever muckity-muck title he has) why that was even necessary given that everything is moving towards wireless these days and his response was essentially "the only reason consumers can function in a wireless world today is because the producers and distributors no longer do." Perhaps Chicos can explain better, but my takeaway was that on the distribution chain from the actual cameras filming the event all the way to the viewer's livingroom, any degradation - whether quality, speed, compression, etc. -compounds as it moves downstream... so they want the best technology, cables, communication systems/channels, etc. at the source so that the consumer sees the best product possible. Think about the Battle 4 Atlantis when it first launched in 2011... most of us had grown used to HDTV quality by that time, but the broadcast quality was terrible those first few years because the ballroom didn't have the right tech setup for a top-tier, worldwide broadcast.
I don't suppose this means that Hart Park needs to bury a bunch of cable, but I'm sure that part of the FS1 deal involved having tech setups at the school venues that allow for a national production (such as this). So that's why it's either Valley Fields or nothing at all, because I'd suspect the only other outdoor venue in Milwaukee with the requisite tech is at the opposite end of the valley... and they're already booked for the week.
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Do you honestly think Marquette would cheap out on the biggest non-basketball athletic event in recent memory? Especially if they could more than make it up on the increased ticket sales?
Is Marquette cheap? No. I don't think it's that easy to rent Hart Park out of the blue on Sunday night at 9pm to play a national TV game six days later.
I'm not sure who set-ups up the ncaa ticket prices, since they are still $5. I'm guessing Marquette didn't think the tickets would sell-out in 20 minutes.
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Is Marquette cheap? No. I don't think it's that easy to rent Hart Park out of the blue on Sunday night at 9pm to play a national TV game six days later.
I'm not sure who set-ups up the ncaa ticket prices, since they are still $5. I'm guessing Marquette didn't think the tickets would sell-out in 20 minutes.
They wanted the place sold out.
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It would be cool if they could play someplace else to accommodate a bigger crowd, but they've been playing home games and practicing on that field all year, so I can understand the reasoning that there's no point in changing now.
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Perhaps Chicos can explain better, but my takeaway was that on the distribution chain from the actual cameras filming the event all the way to the viewer's livingroom, any degradation - whether quality, speed, compression, etc. -compounds as it moves downstream... so they want the best technology, cables, communication systems/channels, etc. at the source so that the consumer sees the best product possible. Think about the Battle 4 Atlantis when it first launched in 2011... most of us had grown used to HDTV quality by that time, but the broadcast quality was terrible those first few years because the ballroom didn't have the right tech setup for a top-tier, worldwide broadcast.
Correct, though it can be overcome to some extent with mobile trucks. Most of the new stadiums have tech built into them with amazing capabilities to capture, send, etc. Hardwired in with cabling (fiber), etc. If the source doesn't have that, the trucks that broadcasters use can do the trick as well with great ease. The challenge today is 4K, where almost no one has the setup and what limited 4K trucks are out there, aren't doing the job too well. An industry spec or standard hasn't been agreed upon yet, which makes things more problematic.
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It's 38 degrees, snowing/raining!
#homefieldadvantage
GO MU!
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Wojo turned Marquette into a lacrosse school
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Wojo turned Marquette into a lacrosse school
Real Warriors play lacrosse.
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Wojo turned Marquette into a lacrosse school
Please...one thread about lacrosse and one sellout. Let's not over react here.
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Duke gets beat handily by Loyola (MD)
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Pack of dogs pee all over this field?
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Just picked up this thread after vacation. Is the game being televised? Thanks.
Edit: Just found it on the U...
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Score is 1-1 in the first. Updated via NCAA website.
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Score is 1-1 in the first. Updated via NCAA website.
2-1 now.
You know it's on ESPNU, right?
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2-2 one minute left in Q1.
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3-2 good guys.
And these announcers are A-holes.
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Nice buzzer beater by MU.
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3-2 good guys.
And these announcers are A-holes.
Seriously, the guy from UNC scores and they say he ran it all the way up Franklin Street, do they realize they are in Milwaukee not Chapel Hill. They should have said Wisconsin Avenue at least lol.
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It'd be nice if we could hold a lead. Seems we play great D, then let down just after we score.
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Seriously, the guy from UNC scores and they say he ran it all the way up Franklin Street, do they realize they are in Milwaukee not Chapel Hill. They should have said Wisconsin Avenue at least lol.
We set up a nice play that allowed us to score right before the end of the quarter, and the announcer's comment was, "Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good."
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They set up a nice play that allowed us to score right before the end of the quarter, and the announcer's comment was, "Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good."
Marquette has had 3 one goal leads, UNC takes their first lead and he says "North Carolina in the driver's seat"
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Why can't we win a face off?
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The High Pointe coach giving analysis on the half time show says we are doing well .
This is a very competitive game. Lacrosse like basketball is a game of runs. We need a run right out of the box to start second half.
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Marquette looks like they settles down. Finally won a few faceoffs. Think they'll pull through in the 2nd half.
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Anyone have a stream? Charter doesn't carry ESPNU as a provider.
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Anyone have a stream? Charter doesn't carry ESPNU as a provider.
Trying going to the watch espn site, it may be on ESPN3
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Anyone have a stream? Charter doesn't carry ESPNU as a provider.
Sure they do
http://www.charter.net/tv/guide/
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Well, that certainly explains a few things....
One of the announcers just identified himself as a former UNC Lacrosse player.
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9-7 bad guys
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9-7 bad guys
What do you think the TV rating of game like this is?
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What do you think the TV rating of game like this is?
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10-8 bad guys. MU having a tough time finishing.
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10-9 1:05 left
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This is getting good!
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Unlucky break there at the end with that shot....hit our player in the leg, otherwise we would still have possession.
Amazing run by these guys
Lose 10-9
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Good season! Good for them!
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Heart vs. Might today and the boys almost pulled this one out. 20 UA All Americans for UNC. Glad UNC is red shytting their players, per the announcers.
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Wow, talk about your blue blood snobbery. Even at the end, when the non NC alum commentator grudgingly admitted that Marquette was playing well, the NC guy had to take another shot at Marquette's 6 seed ("Even Syracuse only got an 8 seed and they won the ACC!"). And then the guys back at the studio "Marquette ALMOST made us eat our words..." I'm glad to see ESPN is consistent in their hatred of the Big East. And NC hasn't won a natty since 1993.
And now they're eating cheese. I hope some Ivy League team blows their sticks off.
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What do you think the TV rating of game like this is?
80k
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Wow, talk about your blue blood snobbery. Even at the end, when the non NC alum commentator grudgingly admitted that Marquette was playing well, the NC guy had to take another shot at Marquette's 6 seed ("Even Syracuse only got an 8 seed and they won the ACC!"). And then the guys back at the studio "Marquette ALMOST made us eat our words..." I'm glad to see ESPN is consistent in their hatred of the Big East. And NC hasn't won a natty since 1993.
And now they're eating cheese. I hope some Ivy League team blows their sticks off.
Well, Marquette was a bubble team entering the BE Tournament, to be a national seed, is one hell of a jump.
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Helluva season. Bet Amplo can get in more front doors now and going forward. Be nice if we remain a BEast force and a regular in the tournament.
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Losers.
I blame Wojo for not getting Damion Lee.
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80k
That is decent exposure for our program.
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Wow, talk about your blue blood snobbery. Even at the end, when the non NC alum commentator grudgingly admitted that Marquette was playing well, the NC guy had to take another shot at Marquette's 6 seed ("Even Syracuse only got an 8 seed and they won the ACC!"). And then the guys back at the studio "Marquette ALMOST made us eat our words..." I'm glad to see ESPN is consistent in their hatred of the Big East. And NC hasn't won a natty since 1993.
And now they're eating cheese. I hope some Ivy League team blows their sticks off.
The lacrosse world is all up in arms that we are doing well. a new pecking order is coming to the sport and they don't know how to deal with it.
When Larry Williams was first hired as AD he asked me if we could be good in lacrosse. I told him absolutely, kids will want to come to school at Marquette and we are going to be a force sooner than anyone expects.
Looking forward to next year.
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You really think that the lacrosse world is "up in arms" over Marquette?
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Crean sucks
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You really think that the lacrosse world is "up in arms" over Marquette?
Actually I agree with him. Lacrosse is a ridiculously elitist sport.
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That is decent exposure for our program.
Yep. I bet that 75% of the viewers that weren't MU or UNC fans were folks involved with high school or youth lacrosse.
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Will get final numbers on Tuesday. I know Georgetown at Marquette had 50k on FS1 earlier this season.
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Will get final numbers on Tuesday. I know Georgetown at Marquette had 50k on FS1 earlier this season.
Please post when you get them. It would be interesting to know.
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Actually I agree with him. Lacrosse is a ridiculously elitist sport.
I think the East Coast snots are starting to realize that the lacrosse dynamic is starting to change. In a few years(hopefully) teams like UNC(cheaters) and Dook will dread coming to Milwaukee to play the Warriors.
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Actually I agree with him. Lacrosse is a ridiculously elitist sport.
They must've loved it out East when Denver won last year.
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Please post when you get them. It would be interesting to know.
Will do!
Marquette at Denver on FS2, last Saturday got 20k.
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Did anybody actually make it to the game in person. I'd love to know what the atmosphere was like.
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The atmosphere was great, and it was a close exciting game to the very end with everyone on their feet for the final possession. The student section behind the goal was really rowdy. I was surprised at the number of UNC fans. Also lots of area HS/youth players that weren't necessarily cheering for MU, just wanted to watch a high level game.
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Studio team talked about us as if we were a scrappy 13 seed in the basketball tournament, rather than the seeded home team. They talked about us playing well, but definitely in a condescending way.
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I watched the game yesterday. Highly entertaining sport. I think I could get into it. I thought MU put in a great effort and losing 10-9 in an NCAA tournament game is nothing to hang your head about. Spectacular season. I think I will follow closely next year.
I interpreted the commentary differently than most. I think the announcers were just stating facts...our program is basically 5 years old, with 3 seasons of actual Big East play (the first two seasons we red shirted our entire team one year and then were an independent the 2nd year). This was a highly improbably run by a team that has literally zero history or tradition. I didn't interpret it as disrespect, just an accurate account of where our program is. We were a bubble team before the Denver game that ended up getting the national 6 seed. You have to earn respect, and this year probably went a long way for doing that for MU LAX. But I wasn't insulted by any of this.
FWIW, I am watching the Denver-Towson game and the announcers keep talking about how MU was able to shut down Denver. Plenty of respect there.
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I watched the game yesterday. Highly entertaining sport. I think I could get into it. I thought MU put in a great effort and losing 10-9 in an NCAA tournament game is nothing to hang your head about. Spectacular season. I think I will follow closely next year.
I interpreted the commentary differently than most. I think the announcers were just stating facts...our program is basically 5 years old, with 3 seasons of actual Big East play (the first two seasons we red shirted our entire team one year and then were an independent the 2nd year). This was a highly improbably run by a team that has literally zero history or tradition. I didn't interpret it as disrespect, just an accurate account of where our program is. We were a bubble team before the Denver game that ended up getting the national 6 seed. You have to earn respect, and this year probably went a long way for doing that for MU LAX. But I wasn't insulted by any of this.
FWIW, I am watching the Denver-Towson game and the announcers keep talking about how MU was able to shut down Denver. Plenty of respect there.
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End of the day, we got a higher seed than anyone in Lacrosse thought we would get. For a team that was very much a bubble team to leap that high to a 6 seed was pretty crazy. I thought the broadcasters were fair, especially in the in-game guys. The one was a UNC grad, and he basically said throughout the match what MU needed to do to win because of UNC's defensive problems.
The one studio host that thought we were over seeded, I didn't think he was off base. He wasn't bashing the program.
The fact that Denver lost today, that might actually show a thing or two as well.
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I watched the game yesterday. Highly entertaining sport. I think I could get into it. I thought MU put in a great effort and losing 10-9 in an NCAA tournament game is nothing to hang your head about. Spectacular season. I think I will follow closely next year.
I interpreted the commentary differently than most. I think the announcers were just stating facts...our program is basically 5 years old, with 3 seasons of actual Big East play (the first two seasons we red shirted our entire team one year and then were an independent the 2nd year). This was a highly improbably run by a team that has literally zero history or tradition. I didn't interpret it as disrespect, just an accurate account of where our program is. We were a bubble team before the Denver game that ended up getting the national 6 seed. You have to earn respect, and this year probably went a long way for doing that for MU LAX. But I wasn't insulted by any of this.
FWIW, I am watching the Denver-Towson game and the announcers keep talking about how MU was able to shut down Denver. Plenty of respect there.
Don't you understand that unless announcers are fawning all over Marquette, they are showing disrespect? And that it's because ESPN hates the Big East? But if they are too superficial in their fawning, it means they're condescending?
Get with the program.
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Don't you understand that unless announcers are fawning all over Marquette, they are showing disrespect? And that it's because ESPN hates the Big East? But if they are too superficial in their fawning, it means they're condescending?
Get with the program.
We only get the easy ground balls.
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The fact that Denver lost today, that might actually show a thing or two as well.
Nope. #crapshoot.
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Nope. #crapshoot.
Zing!
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Nope. #crapshoot.
Agree...anything that is one game and anything that can happen in that one game. We agree completely.
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Agree...anything that is one game and anything that can happen in that one game. We agree completely.
But crapshoots don't "show a thing or two". There just..."crapshoots". So you're contradicting yourself. Again.
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I enjoyed this line from a few years ago
"Now, just like any other college sport, expect maybe football which has been dominated by the SEC, lacrosse's NCAA Tournament has become a crapshoot. If a team can make the tournament it has a chance to win the whole shebang, the perfect example was Loyola (MD) last year."
Five years ago, 7 seed wins it all vs a non seed.
Three years ago, 7 seed wins it all
Two years ago, 2, 3, 4 went out in the first round.
Last year, 4 beat 6 for the title
This year, 2, 4, 6 all out in the first round.
Fun stuff. Anything can happen in a one game scenario.
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the thing that struck me about the sport is that you can have a grudge match where it is a one goal game almost the whole game but then out of nowhere a team can string in 3 or 4 goals in a row to break it wide open in a matter of minutes. The pace can change very fast and it seems like it is somewhat unpredictable as to how many goals there will be.
Would make gambling on this sport really tough.
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the thing that struck me about the sport is that you can have a grudge match where it is a one goal game almost the whole game but then out of nowhere a team can string in 3 or 4 goals in a row to break it wide open in a matter of minutes. The pace can change very fast and it seems like it is somewhat unpredictable as to how many goals there will be.
Would make gambling on this sport really tough.
Mostly about winning the faceoffs.
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Mostly about winning the faceoffs.
Yeah, that's what I thought on Saturday. For a long while we were losing too many. Given the reasonably high probability of scoring when one achieves the offensive box, this seems to be the key. It's important in hockey but not THAT important.
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Yeah, that's what I thought on Saturday. For a long while we were losing too many. Given the reasonably high probability of scoring when one achieves the offensive box, this seems to be the key. It's important in hockey but not THAT important.
What's amazing is the Denver won 20 of 22 faceoffs yesterday, but lost the game. The reason, they had 14 turnovers which wiped out most of their faceoff wins. You are exactly right though, normally if you win the faceoffs you control the clock and the opportunities to score which should lead to a win more often than not.
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I enjoyed this line from a few years ago
"Now, just like any other college sport, expect maybe football which has been dominated by the SEC, lacrosse's NCAA Tournament has become a crapshoot. If a team can make the tournament it has a chance to win the whole shebang, the perfect example was Loyola (MD) last year."
Five years ago, 7 seed wins it all vs a non seed.
Three years ago, 7 seed wins it all
Two years ago, 2, 3, 4 went out in the first round.
Last year, 4 beat 6 for the title
This year, 2, 4, 6 all out in the first round.
Fun stuff. Anything can happen in a one game scenario.
Wow. Clearly a MUCH bigger crapshoot than the NCAA basketball tournament. Maybe even a bigger one than the best of 7 Stanley Cup playoffs where 2016 was typical - 2 #1s (Florida and the not so mighty Ducks) ousted in round 1 and the other 2 #1s (Washington and Dallas) knocked off in round 2.
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How do we look for next year?
They said we had 19 seniors or something ridiculous like that (which makes sense, considering our first season as a program was 4 years ago)....are we losing EVERYONE? Will it be a completely different team next year, or do we return some key guys? Would be cool if they actually had some sustained success. I'm sure this year will help Amplo with recruiting but it will probably be a couple years until those recruits come to fruition. Hoping they don't have a down year.
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Plenty of guys left (more than 30), and a new freshman class coming in. They had so many seniors because everybody who came in for 2011-2012 school year redshirted - all of the freshmen from that class would be fifth year seniors this season. Hope their stunning success this year helps bring in some stellar new recruits, and Joe can keep building tradition for Lacrosse at Marquette.
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Although it is accurate that there are plenty of guys left the graduating players are going to be very difficult to replace.
Liam Byrnes and BJ Grill are our two best defensemen. Liam, in particular will be a huge gap to fill.
One of our best midfielders, Kyle Whitlow, will also be leaving. Although he was hurt for the majority of this year his presence will be greatly missed. Same is true with Conor Gately who was one of our best attackmen.
Good news is our top scorer (Ryan McNamara) and goalie (Cole Blazer) along with Andy Demichiei will be back.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for another run like this year but we should certainly be decent and hopefully continue to build upon what Coach Amplo has been able to do.
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And just as an aside BJ Grill's little brother has committed to play lacrosse at Marquette. He will be a freshman this fall.
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And just as an aside BJ Grill's little brother has committed to play lacrosse at Marquette. He will be a freshman this fall.
Defensive POY for New Jersey
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Cole Blazer might be the lacrossiest name ever.
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Cole Blazer might be the lacrossiest name ever.
Only to be beaten in 50 years or so by his grandson: Cole Blazer III.
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MU Lacrosse should have recruited some JUCOs
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MU Lacrosse should have recruited some JUCOs
Squirmy. I think they should stick to traditional pogo sticks.
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Squirmy. I think they should stick to traditional pogo sticks.
Keep it below 38.5% of our roster and it's good.
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Keep it below 38.5% of our roster and it's good.
After all your rants against quotas! You, sir, are a fraud!
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Speaking of great lacrosse names, between my junior and senior years at Marquette I played in a summer lacrosse league in New Haven with a kid from Yale. His name was Clayton Roberts Simmers II. Great guy. Stud lacrosse player.
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Looks like Minnesota has become a little bit of the local hotbed for our Lax recruiting.
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Please post when you get them. It would be interesting to know.
NCAA Lacrosse TV Ratings
Saturday
JOHNS HOPKINS/BROWN 4:00 PM 6:15 PM 75K
DUKE/LOYOLA (MD) 11:00 AM 1:16 PM 69K
AIR FORCE/NOTRE DAME 6:30 PM 8:44 PM 61K
NORTH CAROLINA/MARQUETTE 1:30 PM 3:38 PM 52K
Sunday
ALBANY/SYRACUSE 6:30 PM 8:40 PM 204k
NAVY/YALE 4:15 PM 6:30 PM 131k
TOWSON/DENVER 2:00 PM 4:06 PM 99k
QUINNIPIAC/MARYLAND NA
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NCAA Lacrosse TV Ratings
Saturday
JOHNS HOPKINS/BROWN 4:00 PM 6:15 PM 75K
DUKE/LOYOLA (MD) 11:00 AM 1:16 PM 69K
AIR FORCE/NOTRE DAME 6:30 PM 8:44 PM 61K
NORTH CAROLINA/MARQUETTE 1:30 PM 3:38 PM 52K
Sunday
ALBANY/SYRACUSE 6:30 PM 8:40 PM 204k
NAVY/YALE 4:15 PM 6:30 PM 131k
TOWSON/DENVER 2:00 PM 4:06 PM 99k
QUINNIPIAC/MARYLAND NA
Thanks for posting. Interesting data. Syracuse has one heck of a fan base. The nice thing is MU was constantly mentioned on all of these games and during pre post game so we really got a lot of exposure.
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How do we look for next year?
They said we had 19 seniors or something ridiculous like that (which makes sense, considering our first season as a program was 4 years ago)....are we losing EVERYONE? Will it be a completely different team next year, or do we return some key guys? Would be cool if they actually had some sustained success. I'm sure this year will help Amplo with recruiting but it will probably be a couple years until those recruits come to fruition. Hoping they don't have a down year.
To be totally honest, a lot of the 19 seniors are bit players at most. Yes, there's All-American defenders and MLL draft picks and the program's two best all-time scorers in there. But there's still a bunch of guys coming back who can contribute next year.
Look at Tanner Thomson: basically didn't play at all last year or early this year, but when Whitlow got hurt, he stepped in and ended up tied for the 2nd most goals on the team.
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After all your rants against quotas! You, sir, are a fraud!
Frog protection
https://www.youtube.com/v/jAY_OhFRxgA
38.5% of our roster Jucos....bad idea. Glad that Wojo and just about every other major program in the country understands this.
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We can agree to disagree on next year's team.. When you lose 2/3 of your starting defense and your team relies on defense for their success there will be a huge gap to fill.
Of course you will have people step up. That happens every year but anyone expecting a run like we had this year needs to temper their expectations.
As Charles Barkley so aptly titled his autobiography..."I May Be Wrong, But I Doubt It."
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We can agree to disagree on next year's team.. When you lose 2/3 of your starting defense and your team relies on defense for their success there will be a huge gap to fill.
Of course you will have people step up. That happens every year but anyone expecting a run like we had this year needs to temper their expectations.
As Charles Barkley so aptly titled his autobiography..."I May Be Wrong, But I Doubt It."
Conversely, the run ultimately comes down to beating Denver in the BE tourney and that's it. Still lost to Notre Dame, still lost to Duke, lost to an ACC power in the NCAA tourney, lost to Denver in the regular season.
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http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/sector-spdrs-madness-marquette-seniors-built-program-that-s-here-to-stay/35280
Great read.
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Conversely, the run ultimately comes down to beating Denver in the BE tourney and that's it. Still lost to Notre Dame, still lost to Duke, lost to an ACC power in the NCAA tourney, lost to Denver in the regular season.
Except all of those Ls were good, close games (Duke as the exception). There are no moral victories - except when you are in your 4th year of existence and playing perennial powerhouse teams. Those close losses proved MU belonged, paved the way for beating Denver, and helped secure a home game in the tournament.
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Conversely, the run ultimately comes down to beating Denver in the BE tourney and that's it. Still lost to Notre Dame, still lost to Duke, lost to an ACC power in the NCAA tourney, lost to Denver in the regular season.
I disagree. For me the run comes down to making the NCAA tournament as a sixth seed with a home game that sold out. And that also happened to be a one goal loss to a traditional lacrosse power.
That's a program establishing year.
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Conversely, the run ultimately comes down to beating Denver in the BE tourney and that's it. Still lost to Notre Dame, still lost to Duke, lost to an ACC power in the NCAA tourney, lost to Denver in the regular season.
Coach Amplo has built a very strong program that will be very competitive for a long time. Lacrosse is a sport where there are a lot of one to two goal games. So yes it is possible we may be on the short end of a few of those next year but overall the trend in future years is going to continue to be one of a team capable of competing favorably with top 20 teams.
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Looking at the article from the link a few posts above. I am sure it has been mentioned but our Valor Blue unis rock.
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UNC just beat ND. This is good for MU Lacrosse.
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By three more goals then what they beat MU by.
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#crapshoot
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UVA has decided not to renew the contract of their head lacrosse coach. If (and I stress if) Joe were to leave this would be the perfect landing spot.
Let's hope they decide to promote from within.
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#crapshoot
I chuckled.
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UVA has decided not to renew the contract of their head lacrosse coach. If (and I stress if) Joe were to leave this would be the perfect landing spot.
Let's hope they decide to promote from within.
This opportunity only comes along once in a generation and is the crown jewel of Lacrosse.
I am sure Coach Joe is on the short list if not number one on the list. It will be a very tough decision for him if it materializes.
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UVA has decided not to renew the contract of their head lacrosse coach. If (and I stress if) Joe were to leave this would be the perfect landing spot.
Let's hope they decide to promote from within.
What was Amplo doing when Marquette came calling five years ago?
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Tony Bennett to UVA LAX.
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What was Amplo doing when Marquette came calling five years ago?
Associate Head Coach at Hofstra (his alma mater).
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Associate Head Coach at Hofstra (his alma mater).
Gracias
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What was Amplo doing when Marquette came calling five years ago?
UVA is in discussions with the Yale coach so that is a good thing for us. Although If they take him that would open both Yale and Princeton. Although both those Ivy schools are attractive I am not sure they could lure our guy away. Cost of Living too high .
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UVA is in discussions with the Yale coach so that is a good thing for us. Although If they take him that would open both Yale and Princeton. Although both those Ivy schools are attractive I am not sure they could lure our guy away. Cost of Living too high .
I don't see where the COLA of New Haven, CT is any different than Milwaukee, WI?
Yale had a similar season to Marquette. Had a great season run, won the Ivy tournament, then lost in the first round of the NCAA's at home to Navy.
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I don't see where the COLA of New Haven, CT is any different than Milwaukee, WI?
Cost of living in New Haven is 23% higher than Milwaukee, or so says http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/
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UVA is in discussions with the Yale coach so that is a good thing for us. Although If they take him that would open both Yale and Princeton. Although both those Ivy schools are attractive I am not sure they could lure our guy away. Cost of Living too high .
Marquette has already hired this guy to talk Amplo out of listening to any offers:
(http://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iwTUa_hUmFmA/v1/-1x-1.jpg)
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"The Rent is Too Damn High!!!"
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Thanks for posting. Interesting data. Syracuse has one heck of a fan base. The nice thing is MU was constantly mentioned on all of these games and during pre post game so we really got a lot of exposure.
Syracuse vs Maryland this past Saturday at 11am CT got 101k
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Syracuse vs Maryland this past Saturday at 11am CT got 101k
How did the UNC ND game fare?
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Cost of living in New Haven is 23% higher than Milwaukee, or so says http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/
That's a nice tool.
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That's a nice tool.
nh?
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How did the UNC ND game fare?
It was an ESPN2 game on a Sunday and got 188K for UNC/ND and Towson/Loyola (MD) got 117k
Putting some numbers in line, in what the sport of softball does. Opening weekend of the NCAA Softball Tournament.
Some example from the weekend.
Saturday
ESPN LA-LAFAYETTE/TEXAS 12:00 PM 2:30 PM 518
ESPN OLE MISS/OKLAHOMA 2:30 PM 4:26 PM 474
ESPN2 OLE MISS/WICHITA STATE 8:41 PM 10:00 PM 358
ESPN2 TEXAS A&M/TEXAS 5:43 PM 8:41 PM 313
Sunday
ESPN TENNESSEE/OHIO STATE 12:00 PM 2:15 PM 796
ESPN ALABAMA/CALIFORNIA 2:30 PM 4:52 PM 689
ESPNU LOUISIANA LAFAYETTE/TEXAS A&M 5:10 PM 8:16 PM 396
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It was an ESPN2 game on a Sunday and got 188K for UNC/ND and Towson/Loyola (MD) got 117k
Putting some numbers in line, in what the sport of softball does. Opening weekend of the NCAA Softball Tournament.
Some example from the weekend.
Saturday
ESPN LA-LAFAYETTE/TEXAS 12:00 PM 2:30 PM 518
ESPN OLE MISS/OKLAHOMA 2:30 PM 4:26 PM 474
ESPN2 OLE MISS/WICHITA STATE 8:41 PM 10:00 PM 358
ESPN2 TEXAS A&M/TEXAS 5:43 PM 8:41 PM 313
Sunday
ESPN TENNESSEE/OHIO STATE 12:00 PM 2:15 PM 796
ESPN ALABAMA/CALIFORNIA 2:30 PM 4:52 PM 689
ESPNU LOUISIANA LAFAYETTE/TEXAS A&M 5:10 PM 8:16 PM 396
It doesnt surprise me. Softball draws good attendance in person.
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UNC playing Maryland for the championship today. Not that it really matters in the long run, but our guys put up a heck of a fight against a really good team that's gotten on a roll.
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North Carolina won in an overtime.
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It was a great atmosphere at the game today. They announced Joe Amplos name during the award ceremony, as being part of the tournament committee.
We game the national champions a great game. Things are looking up for us.
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Yes.....NC just won the NCAA Lacrosse National title.....
Congrats to MU Lacrosse on bringing the program to national prominence......
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It's official:
We're No. 2!
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Since they won't vacate a UNC win, what school lacrosse program is getting NCAA penalized for this?
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Since they won't vacate a UNC win, what school lacrosse program is getting NCAA penalized for this?
Cleveland State. They're scheduled to go to DI in 2017, so this will probably cost them a couple of schollies.
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Amplo to Princeton?
http://www.anonymouseagle.com/2016/6/10/11903932/report-joe-amplo-interviewing-for-princeton-head-coach-vacancy
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Heard about this earlier today. Team leaves Sunday for a trip to Italy where they will play a bunch of exhibitions. Hopefully Joe is on the plane.
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Amplo to Princeton?
http://www.anonymouseagle.com/2016/6/10/11903932/report-joe-amplo-interviewing-for-princeton-head-coach-vacancy
I think he will get offered the job. His lacrosse pedigree is strong and his achievements at MU are extremely impressive .
Recruiting to the Ivy League will be like shooting fish in a barrell for him,
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MU lacrosse. 2011-2016.
#AlwaysRemember
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Amplo was another Cottingham hire huh?
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I think he will get offered the job. His lacrosse pedigree is strong and his achievements at MU are extremely impressive .
Recruiting to the Ivy League will be like shooting fish in a barrell for him,
Even if he doesn't get this one, it's only a matter of time before he takes over a big name program.
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Even if he doesn't get this one, it's only a matter of time before he takes over a big name program.
He has to be on everyones short list. Given what he did here with literally no facilities is extremely impressive. The team doesn't even have a locker room.
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He is gone. If not now, very soon. Typical. MU finds an elite coach and they skip town as soon as possible. MU fans should be used to this by now.
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The Yale coach is staying. They gave him a new contract. I know he was named for openings with Amplo.
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He is gone. If not now, very soon. Typical. MU finds an elite coach and they skip town as soon as possible. MU fans should be used to this by now.
I am hoping he really enjoys the family life he has built in Wisconsin.
Our athletic department needs to step it up though and get this guy some basics, we need locker rooms and a bubble facility (until they finish the new fieldhouse)
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Scholl, in his first coaching decision, working on an extension as Joe boards the plane tomorrow to Europe. MU hired a great AD.
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Official...got to lock up a one of a kind coach.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-lacros/spec-rel/061116aab.html
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Official...got to lock up a one of a kind coach.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-lacros/spec-rel/061116aab.html
Is lacrosse contracts anything like basketball and football where in reality they can leave anytime?
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Is lacrosse contracts anything like basketball and football where in reality they can leave anytime?
For the most part yes. I think the real security is for the coach, in that the concern in these minor sports is always will the University continue to sponsor the sport. At least this way Amplo knows we will have a program for a few more years.
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He's staying. Very good news for the program.
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Scholl, in his first coaching decision, working on an extension as Joe boards the plane tomorrow to Europe. MU hired a great AD.
Another example of Lovell's incompetence.
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He is gone. If not now, very soon. Typical. MU finds an elite coach and they skip town as soon as possible. MU fans should be used to this by now.
I believe that we scoopers are used to your posts by now.
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I believe that we scoopers are used to your posts by now.
Yes, if only I could be as mature, insightful and pragmatic as everyone else here. Jeez, get over yourself, idiot. This is like the monkey house at the zoo. Nothing more than a bunch of chimps throwing their own crap at each other.
This site is a brainless embarrassment. See ya, clowns.
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Official...got to lock up a one of a kind coach.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-lacros/spec-rel/061116aab.html
If* a deal is made, it won't "lock him up."
Contracts are made to be broken. (http://www.gopherhole.com/news_article/show/148022-made-to-be-broken-tubby-smith-and-coaching-contracts)
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Yes, if only I could be as mature, insightful and pragmatic as everyone else here. Jeez, get over yourself, idiot. This is like the monkey house at the zoo. Nothing more than a bunch of chimps throwing their own crap at each other.
This site is a brainless embarrassment. See ya, clowns.
RAGE QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Princeton hired the interim head coach.
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Nice, Amplo may just create something really special in Milwaukee.