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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: VegasWarrior77 on January 30, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
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http://www.jucorecruiting.com/junior-college-basketball-players-in-the-nba
Former JUCO players who played in at least one NBA All-Star Game
Nate “Tiny” Archibald (Arizona Western CC)
Mookie Blaylock (Midland College)
Jimmy Butler (Tyler JC)
Sam Cassell (San Jacinto)
Cedric Ceballos (Ventura College) Selected, but DNP due to injury
Steve Francis (Allegany CC)
Mark Eaton (Cypress College)
Artis Gilmore (Gardner Webb JC)
Ricky Green (Vincennes)
Spencer Haywood (Trinidad State)
Lionel Hollins (Dixie State JC)
Dennis Johnson (LA Harbor)
John Johnson (Northwest College WY)
Larry Johnson (Odessa JC)
Larry Kenon (Amarillo JC)
Shawn Marion (Vincennes)
Bob McAdoo (Vincennes)
Mitch Richmond (Moberly Area CC)
Alvin Robertson (Crowder JC)
Dennis Rodman (Cooke County JC)
Bob Rule (Riverside CC)
Latrell Sprewell (Three Rivers CC)
John Starks (Northern Oklahoma CC/Tulsa JC)
Nick Van Exel (Trinity Valley CC)
Ben Wallace (Cuyahoga CC)
Sidney Wicks (Santa Monica CC)
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Wow--what a list. Bob mcAdoo, Artis Gilmore, DJ, Tiny Archibald. Thanks for posting.
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Larry Kenon could fill it up!
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Interesting list. You can see why jucos can get a bad rep
ETA: Just meant a few bad guys will hurt the reputation of others. I obviously know the backgrounds of J-butler and others who are good guys.
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Can someone post the high school players to college NBA all-stars list?
Thanks
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What this post illuminates is what an incredible job Buzz did. The NBA is littered with thousands of high school to college players but only a few dozen jucos? Maybe we should we hang a banner for Buzz's work.
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What this post illuminates is what an incredible job Buzz did. The NBA is littered with thousands of high school to college players but only a few dozen jucos? Maybe we should we hang a banner for Buzz's work.
Doesn't illustrate that at all in my opinion.
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1. Why weren't you critical of Crean when he signed JUCO's? (Corollary: Why did you not criticize all of the transfers under Crean?)
2. What will you say if Wojo signs 2 JUCO guards this year?
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What this post illuminates is what an incredible job Buzz did. The NBA is littered with thousands of high school to college players but only a few dozen jucos? Maybe we should we hang a banner for Buzz's work.
+1. Buzz sent more JUCOs to the NBA in six years (Butler, Buycks, Crowder, DJO) than the guy with more contacts than Bausch and Lomb did total in 9.
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love me some Mark "Lotsa Good" Eaton!
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Wow - a thread highlighting what a big deal it is for Jimmy to go from JUCO to the All-Star game turns into a Crean vs Buzz debate? Really?
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Wow - a thread highlighting what a big deal it is for Jimmy to go from JUCO to the All-Star game turns into a Crean vs Buzz debate? Really?
If Dawson got more PT last season, he'd be an NBA All-Star too!
Better?
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Can someone post the high school players to college NBA all-stars list?
Thanks
High school to NBA and were All-Stars
Kevin Garnett
Kobe Bryant
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Rashard Lewis
Tyson Chandler
Amar'e Stoudemire
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Andrew Bynum
High school players that went to the NBA after high school but were not drafted and made an All-Star team...
Connie Hawkins
Moses Malone
Shawn Kemp
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If Dawson got more PT last season, he'd be an NBA All-Star too!
Better?
And so would Derrick if he had started as a JUCO.
Progress toward completing the Scoop circle....
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Progress toward completing the Scoop circle....
Imagine how good the Jucos could be if Wojo was here to have them practice FTs.
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+1. Buzz sent more JUCOs to the NBA in six years (Butler, Buycks, Crowder, DJO) than the guy with more contacts than Bausch and Lomb did total in 9.
4 players in the NBA in 6 years, from any background, is an extremely impressive track record that can't be discounted. Add in Vander and that's 5 NBA players in 6 years. That's legit.
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4 players in the NBA in 6 years, from any background, is an extremely impressive track record that can't be discounted. Add in Vander and that's 5 NBA players in 6 years. That's legit.
Add (unshackled) Wesley Mathews and Lazar to make 7.
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Add (unshackled) Wesley Mathews and Lazar to make 7.
True, but Crean can claim at least a hand in that too.
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+1. Buzz sent more JUCOs to the NBA in six years (Butler, Buycks, Crowder, DJO) than the guy with more contacts than Bausch and Lomb did total in 9.
Here we go with the Buzz slurp. Yeah, Buzz sent JUCO's to the NBA. He also left the program in a shambles.
Just a huge Cowboy sham, whose time was up in Dodge, so he scurried out the open door. But some people cannot tell a scamster until they have already bought the pile of dung disguised as a pile of gold.
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High school to NBA and were All-Stars
Kevin Garnett
Kobe Bryant
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Rashard Lewis
Tyson Chandler
Amar'e Stoudemire
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Andrew Bynum
High school players that went to the NBA after high school but were not drafted and made an All-Star team...
Connie Hawkins
Moses Malone
Shawn Kemp
Kemp was a 1st round draft pick out of a JUCO after he left Kentucky, Malone was drafted by the ABA out of HS shortly before the merger, and Hawkins went to Iowa for a year before being expelled due to a very loose connection to a point shaving scandal and being officially barred from the NBA draft.
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+1. Buzz sent more JUCOs to the NBA in six years (Butler, Buycks, Crowder, DJO)
I think three of these guys have received their degree too. (Buycks is the one I am not sure of.)
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IIRC, DJO only played preseason
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IIRC, DJO only played preseason
He played a few regular season games for the Lakers and Sixers.
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1. Why weren't you critical of Crean when he signed JUCO's? (Corollary: Why did you not criticize all of the transfers under Crean?)
2. What will you say if Wojo signs 2 JUCO guards this year?
Is this for me?
Not sure, but I'll answer....in fact I've answered this at least 10 times over the years.
I'm not against JUCO's. I'm against JUCO's comprising 40% of our active roster. There is a time and need in a pinch or a special opportunity to have a JUCO player or players. There are also different JUCO classifications in my mind. 1 one year JUCO is different than a 2 year....a kid that qualified but went JUCO is different than one who didn't qualify.
I've answered this time and time again here. I think it isn't good to have kids come in repeatedly for only 2 years...it takes them the first year to get up to speed, then you have them for only one more year. Less of an issue with a 3 year JUCO. On the whole, I'd much rather have someone come in and stay 4 or 5 years, learn the system, learn the MU way, come along slowly. That's my personal preference, but I'm not against JUCOs in a spot need. If Wojo wants to go down that path, by all means do it. I know WOJO isn't going to have 40% of our active roster as JUCOs, so it doesn't bother me one bit long term.
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High school to NBA and were All-Stars
Kevin Garnett
Kobe Bryant
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Rashard Lewis
Tyson Chandler
Amar'e Stoudemire
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Andrew Bynum
High school players that went to the NBA after high school but were not drafted and made an All-Star team...
Connie Hawkins
Moses Malone
Shawn Kemp
Actually, I asked high school to college to NBA all star game. In other words, the normal process.
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4 players in the NBA in 6 years, from any background, is an extremely impressive track record that can't be discounted. Add in Vander and that's 5 NBA players in 6 years. That's legit.
Buzz leaving also means Hank will go to the NBA from Marquette...so I give Buzz credit for that one as well, since Hank was never coming to MU as long as Buzz was here.
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Kemp was a 1st round draft pick out of a JUCO after he left Kentucky, Malone was drafted by the ABA out of HS shortly before the merger, and Hawkins went to Iowa for a year before being expelled due to a very loose connection to a point shaving scandal and being officially barred from the NBA draft.
I knew that the Kemp mention was iffy but I looked it up:
"Kemp decided to enroll at Kentucky. However, he left the team in November 1988 after he was accused of pawning two gold chains that had been reported stolen from his teammate Sean Sutton, the son of then Kentucky head coach Eddie Sutton. Sean Sutton did not press charges, but Kemp transferred to Trinity Valley Community College in Texas.[8] After a semester at TVCC, where he did not play, 19-year-old Shawn Kemp declared himself eligible for the 1989 NBA Draft."
So he WAS enrolled at a D1 school...
And he WAS enrolled at a JUCO...
But never played for either.
He's in some kind of gray area: never played but enrolled.
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Buzz gets 1/2 negative credit for Kevon too. While its true that #5 wanted to leave MKE for college, it is also true that he didn't want to play for Bumstead.
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Buzz gets 1/2 negative credit for Kevon too. While its true that #5 wanted to leave MKE to college, it is also true that he didn't want to play for Bumstead also.
Yes 4ever. We are aware you know Kevon Looney.
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Buzz gets 1/2 negative credit for Kevon too. While its true that #5 wanted to leave MKE for college, it is also true that he didn't want to play for Bumstead.
So Doc, unless we could have figured out a way to move Marquette out of Milwaukee Looney wasn't coming. Makes the identity of our coach beside the point, aina?