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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Rockmic87 on January 29, 2015, 03:42:23 PM
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Does he consider MU with Wojo's relationship?
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Does he consider MU with Wojo's relationship?
Only on scoop...
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Does he consider MU with Wojo's relationship?
I think the real question in these situations is would Marquette be interested in the kid? I don't why he was dismissed, but that's usually a red flag. If the kid couldn't follow Wojo's mentor's rules, then I don't think he would fit here.
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"Rasheed has been unable to consistently live up to the standards required to be a member of our program. After Rasheed repeatedly struggled to meet the necessary obligations, it became apparent that it was time to dismiss him from the program."
After K said that, I'm going to guess Wojo (and the rest of the Duke coaching alumni) won't go anywhere near him. If they didn't go after Ojeleye, a kid who seemed to be in fine standing, I doubt they'll want anything to do with someone who couldn't meet the requirements of the program, since Duke probably has the same expectations of their student-athletes that we now do.
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True...putting my money on SMU, given that he's from Dallas and Frazier seems to be heading out the door.
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Why would anyone even speculate about the POSSIBITY we would go after this guy? If he's dead to Coach K, he's dead to Wojo.
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Can't imagine Wojo going after a player who was dismissed by his mentor. No idea why the kid was dismissed but it seems like a red flag.
Wish it wasn't so, Sulaimon would be a perfect addition for us next season.
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Can't imagine Wojo going after a player who was dismissed by his mentor. No idea why the kid was dismissed but it seems like a red flag.
Wish it wasn't so, Sulaimon would be a perfect addition for us next season.
Maybe he was dismissed by coach K intentionally to give him to Wojo, after all we need a guard.
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This one is strange...he played just yesterday.
He get in a fight on the team plane?
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This one is strange...he played just yesterday.
He get in a fight on the team plane?
Correct, he played a season low 12 minutes last night
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400587947
I don't think I've heard of this before ... a player that has played at least 12 minutes EVERY game this season, suggesting he has NOT been disciplined this season (or at least disciplined to the point of missing a game) and he is dismissed from the team less than 24 hours after his last game.
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Can't imagine Wojo going after a player who was dismissed by his mentor. No idea why the kid was dismissed but it seems like a red flag.
Wish it wasn't so, Sulaimon would be a perfect addition for us next season.
See the highlighted part ... this was probably Wojo last year.
Coach K: Didn't live up to standards
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12249502/duke-blue-devils-dismiss-junior-rasheed-sulaimon
In a stunning announcement, Duke junior guard Rasheed Sulaimon was dismissed from the program on Thursday. The Houston native had not previously been disciplined, at least publicly, all season.
"Rasheed has been unable to consistently live up to the standards required to be a member of our program," coach Mike Krzyzewski said in a release. "It is a privilege to represent Duke University and with that privilege comes the responsibility to conduct oneself in a certain manner. After Rasheed repeatedly struggled to meet the necessary obligations, it became apparent that it was time to dismiss him from the program."
Last season the coaching staff talked to Sulaimon about his body language when things didn't go his way. He had specifically been called out for pouting and not celebrating his teammates while he was on the bench.
Sulaimon seemingly had bought into his role this season coming off the bench and was developing into one of the Blue Devils' best on-ball defenders.
Sulaimon appeared in all 20 games this season and averaged 7.5 points, 2.0 rebounds and 1.8 assists per game.
Sulaimon's absence could thrust freshman Grayson Allen into the lineup more. Allen, a 6-foot-4 guard, has averaged only 6.1 minutes per game in 16 appearances. Or it could simply expand sophomore Matt Jones' reserve role. Jones averages 4.7 points and also played in every game. Krzyzewski would often use Jones and Sulaimon in the same lineup as his top defenders. Sulaimon was valuable in a sense that he could also play point guard and run the offense if needed. Jones is not skilled in the same manner.
The No. 4 Blue Devils travel to No. 2 Virginia on Saturday, in what could almost be called a must-win game for their fading ACC regular-season title hopes. Wednesday's loss at Notre Dame dropped Duke to 4-3 in league play. The Cavs (19-0) are still undefeated through seven league games.
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Definitely an odd situation. Either Coach K was disciplining Sulaimon privately for some sort of ongoing issue or something just came to light in the last 24 hours that was damning enough to make Coach K kick Sulaimon to the curb.
I'm sure sure good ole shady Sampson would be happy to welcome him back to his hometown of Houston.
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Hey Vander Blue pooted but he was an NBA guy, come on down Rasheed!
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First player Coach K has ever dismissed.
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If the rumors turn up true...this thread can be deleted
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Does he consider MU with Wojo's relationship?
Why--we are all still holding out hope for Diamond? Not sure the Duke connection is the route to go.
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See the highlighted part ... this was probably Wojo last year.
Coach K: Didn't live up to standards
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12249502/duke-blue-devils-dismiss-junior-rasheed-sulaimon
In a stunning announcement, Duke junior guard Rasheed Sulaimon was dismissed from the program on Thursday. The Houston native had not previously been disciplined, at least publicly, all season.
"Rasheed has been unable to consistently live up to the standards required to be a member of our program," coach Mike Krzyzewski said in a release. "It is a privilege to represent Duke University and with that privilege comes the responsibility to conduct oneself in a certain manner. After Rasheed repeatedly struggled to meet the necessary obligations, it became apparent that it was time to dismiss him from the program."
Last season the coaching staff talked to Sulaimon about his body language when things didn't go his way. He had specifically been called out for pouting and not celebrating his teammates while he was on the bench.
Sulaimon seemingly had bought into his role this season coming off the bench and was developing into one of the Blue Devils' best on-ball defenders.
Sulaimon appeared in all 20 games this season and averaged 7.5 points, 2.0 rebounds and 1.8 assists per game.
Sulaimon's absence could thrust freshman Grayson Allen into the lineup more. Allen, a 6-foot-4 guard, has averaged only 6.1 minutes per game in 16 appearances. Or it could simply expand sophomore Matt Jones' reserve role. Jones averages 4.7 points and also played in every game. Krzyzewski would often use Jones and Sulaimon in the same lineup as his top defenders. Sulaimon was valuable in a sense that he could also play point guard and run the offense if needed. Jones is not skilled in the same manner.
The No. 4 Blue Devils travel to No. 2 Virginia on Saturday, in what could almost be called a must-win game for their fading ACC regular-season title hopes. Wednesday's loss at Notre Dame dropped Duke to 4-3 in league play. The Cavs (19-0) are still undefeated through seven league games.
Man, if they can the guy for body language, Vander would have been gone in his soph year.
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According to the espn insider article it seems like the coaches just had enough of his attitude. I would still pass. Just wondering can he join a team and start playing right away a lot of public schools just started this week so he could get into classes?
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I think Coach K saw his protégé playing mind games with his players and thought "You think you can out 'mind game' me with your own team? I'll show you mind games! Check, and Mate."
Both of them, just messing with talented kids not trying to improve them for the game or life. Beyond reprehensible.
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If the rumors turn up true...this thread can be deleted
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Coach k's rotation just dropped by one...
;)
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Oh...anybody notice that Brey played 7 last night to knock off Duke?
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Oh...anybody notice that Brey played 7 last night to knock off Duke?
Yes. Good thing they got to pick the best 7 out of 12 scholarship players. Big difference when we are stuck playing the worst players on our roster because we have no depth
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True...putting my money on SMU, given that he's from Dallas and Frazier seems to be heading out the door.
I thought Hoiberg and IA State are the Land of Misfit Toys in D-1 basketball?
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THe last guy that left Duke, who left on good terms, barely, if at all looked our way, by all appearances.
Is Scoop going to obsess over every Duke non-graduate exit for the next 4 years? Geez.
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Sulaimon gone?
Obviously, poor practice habits!
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This could be in Hobert's wheelhouse
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Yes. Good thing they got to pick the best 7 out of 12 scholarship players. Big difference when we are stuck playing the worst players on our roster because we have no depth
Funny. I thought you argued that teams only play 7 or less (like SHU) because they have to...not because they don't have a choice.
I'll continue to point out coaches that CHOOSE TO PLAY 7 or less all season. Care to comment on Brey vs Duke? Nah.
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I think Coach K saw his protégé playing mind games with his players and thought "You think you can out 'mind game' me with your own team? I'll show you mind games! Check, and Mate."
Both of them, just messing with talented kids not trying to improve them for the game or life. Beyond reprehensible.
Coach K with over 1k wins in 30+ years and the coach of our national team never helped improve anyone! Get real!
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Funny. I thought you argued that teams only play 7 or less (like SHU) because they have to...not because they don't have a choice.
I'll continue to point out coaches that CHOOSE TO PLAY 7 or less all season. Care to comment on Brey vs Duke? Nah.
I actually made four points. All of them said what was obvious but seems mysterious to you. 13 scholarship players > than 8 scholarship players
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I actually made four points. All of them said what was obvious but seems mysterious to you. 13 scholarship players > than 8 scholarship players
You keep reeling. I can point out coaches that purposely play 7 (or less) quite regularly (I can read a box score). Since when does playing an 8th, 9th, 10th man consistently produce wins for teams not named Kentucky?
And my point will be even more clear when the games matter most...during the NCAA tournament.
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You keep reeling. I can point out coaches that purposely play 7 (or less) quite regularly (I can read a box score). Since when does playing an 8th, 9th, 10th man consistently produce wins for teams not named Kentucky?
And my point will be even more clear when the games matter most...during the NCAA tournament.
Look Atticus - Some here are determined to make Wojo the victim in his first year on the job, and set unbelievably low expectations for him - for whatever reason. He inherited the 2nd best situation at MU in the last 35 years. Buzz had it really good his first year with the Big 4. Yet the class the cupboard was QUITE empty of talent thereafter.
Wojo lost 2 kids, one of whom was an All Big East Freshman, and Top 60 recruit. The other a 3 star - and now we are hot and heavy on the heels of a 3 star kid in Minneapolis. This team should have 10 players on it.
We return a senior max minute PG who is incredibly efficient with the ball, has a nice assist to turnover ratio, and great shooting percentage. Another Top 100 senior, Juan Anderson. A fringe Top 100 PROVEN 5th year senior brought in by Wojo - in Matt Carlino. Thereafter we had 4 Top 60 sophomores in Duane, Burton, JJJ and Luke. A freshman Top 100 in Sandy.
The talent and potential certainly were there to be a bigger winner than this 10-10 outfit. Problem is, the playing time decisions haven't been good by the head coach.
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Here we go...............................
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Look Atticus - Some here are determined to make Wojo the victim in his first year on the job, and set unbelievably low expectations for him - for whatever reason. He inherited the 2nd best situation at MU in the last 35 years. Buzz had it really good his first year with the Big 4. Yet the class the cupboard was QUITE empty of talent thereafter.
Wojo lost 2 kids, one of whom was an All Big East Freshman, and Top 60 recruit. The other a 3 star - and now we are hot and heavy on the heels of a 3 star kid in Minneapolis. This team should have 10 players on it.
We return a senior max minute PG who is incredibly efficient with the ball, has a nice assist to turnover ratio, and great shooting percentage. Another Top 100 senior, Juan Anderson. A fringe Top 100 PROVEN 5th year senior brought in by Wojo - in Matt Carlino. Thereafter we had 4 Top 60 sophomores in Duane, Burton, JJJ and Luke. A freshman Top 100 in Sandy.
The talent and potential certainly were there to be a bigger winner than this 10-10 outfit. Problem is, the playing time decisions haven't been good by the head coach.
You are entitled to your opinion. Your opinion is at least partially based on high school recruiting rankings. I guess I can't judge a coach based on what a bunch of guys who work for websites and list player 1-100 based on a few AAU tournaments and high school games. How many trips did the recruiting experts make to Rice Lake? Zero, probably. Nevermind the fact that offers from certain programs move the needle. Anthony Davis didn't exist until he was a senior...
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Look Atticus - Some here are determined to make Wojo the victim in his first year on the job, and set unbelievably low expectations for him - for whatever reason. He inherited the 2nd best situation at MU in the last 35 years. Buzz had it really good his first year with the Big 4. Yet the class the cupboard was QUITE empty of talent thereafter.
Wojo lost 2 kids, one of whom was an All Big East Freshman, and Top 60 recruit. The other a 3 star - and now we are hot and heavy on the heels of a 3 star kid in Minneapolis. This team should have 10 players on it.
We return a senior max minute PG who is incredibly efficient with the ball, has a nice assist to turnover ratio, and great shooting percentage. Another Top 100 senior, Juan Anderson. A fringe Top 100 PROVEN 5th year senior brought in by Wojo - in Matt Carlino. Thereafter we had 4 Top 60 sophomores in Duane, Burton, JJJ and Luke. A freshman Top 100 in Sandy.
The talent and potential certainly were there to be a bigger winner than this 10-10 outfit. Problem is, the playing time decisions haven't been good by the head coach.
This may be the most idiotic thing you have ever posted. 2nd best situation in 35 years that all the experts predicted would finish near the bottom in conference. That either means, this is the best conference lineup in the last 35 years, or MU has sucked for the past 35 years. Neither is true...therefore the conclusion is your statement is idiotic.
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Guess Scoop has become an infinite loop! :o
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We better hope it's the players who stink and not the coaches!!
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Some here are determined to make Wojo the victim in his first year on the job.
Nope. Some here are just realistic.
As are coaches who picked MU to finish near the bottom of the conference. If I'm not mistaken, those coaches did more than play high school ball and therefore, by your logic, they are far more knowledgeable than an observer who only played high school ball.
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Last season the coaching staff talked to Sulaimon about his body language when things didn't go his way. He had specifically been called out for pouting and not celebrating his teammates while he was on the bench.
That can only mean he's going to a program where the coach is more tolerant of this sort of thing. Helloooo, Virginia Tech.
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Coach K was trying to get the team's attention so they could focus on tomorrow's tough game against Virginia
or perhaps Coach K cooled on him
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Why would anyone even speculate about the POSSIBITY we would go after this guy? If he's dead to Coach K, he's dead to Wojo.
How do you know that?
There are probably assistant coaches on the MU staff who recruited Rasheed and know him well and have a real comfort level with him?
Coach Chris Carrawell I am sure, and Thornton as well. And of course Coach Wojo. The kid can guard.
I am not saying bring him in but you don't know the relationship that he might have with coaches who are here now that used to be down at Duke.
Maybe one of them recruited him...and knows him and his 'situation' if there is one.
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How do you know that?
You're right, no one knows for certain, but I feel 99.99% sure he won't go to a K disciple. Look at the quote from Coach K. Sulaimon couldn't live up to the standards of being a Duke player. Do you imagine the standards at Marquette under Wojo, or Northwestern under Collins, or Stanford under Dawkins are much different?
That K has never before kicked a player off his team speaks volumes, and I can't see any way his proteges will see things differently.
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Nope. Some here are just realistic.
As are coaches who picked MU to finish near the bottom of the conference. If I'm not mistaken, those coaches did more than play high school ball and therefore, by your logic, they are far more knowledgeable than an observer who only played high school ball.
And last season those same coaches picked MU to win the Big East - so apparently they get it wrong sometimes too.
This may be the most idiotic thing you have ever posted. 2nd best situation in 35 years that all the experts predicted would finish near the bottom in conference. That either means, this is the best conference lineup in the last 35 years, or MU has sucked for the past 35 years. Neither is true...therefore the conclusion is your statement is idiotic.
LOL - What is idiotic is to reference our pre-season conference ranking and try to use that as a benchmark for what talent/situation a coach inherited when walking into a program. (Not to mention what I posted above.) To use conference pre-season ranking as a metric is ridiculous as we were an Independent in the Majerus and Dukiet years. Then to compare our pre-season conference rank in the vaunted MCC (O'Neill's situation), or Conference USA (Crean), and how the modified Big East (Wojo) are 4 very different "conferences."
Furthermore, in the last 35 years there have been Rick Majerus, Bob Dukiet, Kevin O'Neill, Mike Deane, Tom Crean, Buzz Williams, and now Wojo. So, we are talking about 7 seasons in total (not 35 seasons). And lastly, the point was about what the new head coach INHERITED walking into the program.
Sadly, some here simply refuse to believe talented freshman/sophomores can lead a team to victory, even though we've seen it at MU with the Big 3 under Crean, and just saw it under Seton Hall and Willard. The rub of course is our last coach, Buzz, and now Wojo are making their bed with the not as nearly talented upperclassmen, while giving limited time to the underclassmen. And once again, it is proving to be the wrong coaching decision.
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When a player is dismissed from a team, instead of leaving voluntarily to transfer, how much eligibility does he have remaining?
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How do you know that?
Because I'm capable of making logical inferences from known facts.
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At what point do you stop inferring and start deducing?
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Because I'm capable of making logical inferences from known facts.
Ha yep, pretty simple dot connection
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At what point do you stop inferring and start deducing?
I see huge potential in the username FartyEightHours with that accompanying avatar. Don't let me down!
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When a player is dismissed from a team, instead of leaving voluntarily to transfer, how much eligibility does he have remaining?
There is no difference unless the NCAA is more sympathetic to a waiver.
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At what point do you stop inferring and start deducing?
Elementary, my dear Farty.
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Lol
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And last season those same coaches picked MU to win the Big East - so apparently they get it wrong sometimes too.
Must not have played High School ball.
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Sadly, some here simply refuse to believe talented freshman/sophomores can lead a team to victory,
Nope. I believe that firmly. I'm banking on it for next season.
What I don't believe is that these freshman/sophomores were talented enough to do it.
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And last season those same coaches picked MU to win the Big East - so apparently they get it wrong sometimes too.
LOL - What is idiotic is to reference our pre-season conference ranking and try to use that as a benchmark for what talent/situation a coach inherited when walking into a program. (Not to mention what I posted above.) To use conference pre-season ranking as a metric is ridiculous as we were an Independent in the Majerus and Dukiet years. Then to compare our pre-season conference rank in the vaunted MCC (O'Neill's situation), or Conference USA (Crean), and how the modified Big East (Wojo) are 4 very different "conferences."
Furthermore, in the last 35 years there have been Rick Majerus, Bob Dukiet, Kevin O'Neill, Mike Deane, Tom Crean, Buzz Williams, and now Wojo. So, we are talking about 7 seasons in total (not 35 seasons). And lastly, the point was about what the new head coach INHERITED walking into the program.
Sadly, some here simply refuse to believe talented freshman/sophomores can lead a team to victory, even though we've seen it at MU with the Big 3 under Crean, and just saw it under Seton Hall and Willard. The rub of course is our last coach, Buzz, and now Wojo are making their bed with the not as nearly talented upperclassmen, while giving limited time to the underclassmen. And once again, it is proving to be the wrong coaching decision.
Everyone agrees this is possible. But it requires talented freshman/sophomores. Ours didn't pan out. Hence, the experts thinking last year we wouldn't drop off much. They though Du. Wilson could come in and replace Junior and that JJJ/Burton could replace the others. JJJ/Burton were over-rated as their games were not balanced. So we were bottom feeders in the Big East. This year, with a further drop off in talent, the prognosticators got it right, we would be either not improved or worse.
You are one of the only persons on the planet that thinks we should have done well. And news flash, this is not a "world is round" situation, where you are the only one that has it right.
Preseason rankings are more often right than wrong. The reasons they get it wrong are usually they over-estimate the talent of incoming players. Like last year for MU.
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Look Atticus - Some here are determined to make Wojo the victim in his first year on the job, and set unbelievably low expectations for him - for whatever reason. He inherited the 2nd best situation at MU in the last 35 years. Buzz had it really good his first year with the Big 4. Yet the class the cupboard was QUITE empty of talent thereafter.
Wojo lost 2 kids, one of whom was an All Big East Freshman, and Top 60 recruit. The other a 3 star - and now we are hot and heavy on the heels of a 3 star kid in Minneapolis. This team should have 10 players on it.
We return a senior max minute PG who is incredibly efficient with the ball, has a nice assist to turnover ratio, and great shooting percentage. Another Top 100 senior, Juan Anderson. A fringe Top 100 PROVEN 5th year senior brought in by Wojo - in Matt Carlino. Thereafter we had 4 Top 60 sophomores in Duane, Burton, JJJ and Luke. A freshman Top 100 in Sandy.
The talent and potential certainly were there to be a bigger winner than this 10-10 outfit. Problem is, the playing time decisions haven't been good by the head coach.
Agreed. As the Seton Hall game proved, giving JjJ 30+ minutes a game is the key to a top 25 ranking. Holding JjJ to seven minutes was the only way for Wojo to let Seton Hall slip away with a win.
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Agreed. As the Seton Hall game proved, giving JjJ 30+ minutes a game is the key to a top 25 ranking. Holding JjJ to seven minutes was the only way for Wojo to let Seton Hall slip away with a win.
LOL No doubt.
The problem with placing expectations based on the number of top-100 players is silly because (shock and awe) other teams have them too. Michigan State has 6 top-100 players, of which 3 were upperclassmen. Ohio State has 8 top-100 players, including numerous 5-stars. Georgetown has 8 top-100 players, including a 5-star. Xavier has 8. Other teams have guys that were highly rated.
Anyone with 1/8th of a brain can realize that ratings aren't the be-all end-all, but I don't believe at any point Wojo has had more than 6 top-100 players available to him. We can say 7/8 all we want, but Burton left before Luke was available, and Matt Carlino, while a 4-star recruit by some services, doesn't seem to be in anyone's actual top-100.
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LOL No doubt.
The problem with placing expectations based on the number of top-100 players is silly because (shock and awe) other teams have them too. Michigan State has 6 top-100 players, of which 3 were upperclassmen. Ohio State has 8 top-100 players, including numerous 5-stars.
Clearly Izzo and Matta are playing mind games with their players. That is the only reason I can think of for their struggles this year.
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LOL No doubt.
The problem with placing expectations based on the number of top-100 players is silly because (shock and awe) other teams have them too. Michigan State has 6 top-100 players, of which 3 were upperclassmen. Ohio State has 8 top-100 players, including numerous 5-stars. Georgetown has 8 top-100 players, including a 5-star. Xavier has 8. Other teams have guys that were highly rated.
Anyone with 1/8th of a brain can realize that ratings aren't the be-all end-all, but I don't believe at any point Wojo has had more than 6 top-100 players available to him. We can say 7/8 all we want, but Burton left before Luke was available, and Matt Carlino, while a 4-star recruit by some services, doesn't seem to be in anyone's actual top-100.
LOL - And per Pomeroy rankings, Michigan State is 24, Ohio State 16, Xavier 20, Georgetown 31. Marquette under Wojo?? 102 in the country.
You usual suspects can keep making all the excuses for Wojo your 1/8th brain allows for you too - just as the same usual suspects did for Buzz last season.
And really? Wojo didn't have Burton available to him? He did. Burton didn't like his role/Wojo and moved on. JJJ will be next. And we are scrapping the heap for 3 star recruits out of Minneapolis and likely are going to have 4 scholarships if not 5 to fill.
Everyone agrees this is possible. But it requires talented freshman/sophomores. Ours didn't pan out. Hence, the experts thinking last year we wouldn't drop off much. They though Du. Wilson could come in and replace Junior and that JJJ/Burton could replace the others. JJJ/Burton were over-rated as their games were not balanced. So we were bottom feeders in the Big East. This year, with a further drop off in talent, the prognosticators got it right, we would be either not improved or worse.
You are one of the only persons on the planet that thinks we should have done well. And news flash, this is not a "world is round" situation, where you are the only one that has it right.
Preseason rankings are more often right than wrong. The reasons they get it wrong are usually they over-estimate the talent of incoming players. Like last year for MU.
PS - Our freshman didn't pan out last season/into this year?? Jump to conclusions much? NONE OF THEM were given legitimate opportunity. Crean had no choice with the Big Three because there was SO little talent in the program when they arrived. They all got roughly 27+ minutes per game every game. All of them got to play through their growing pains and largely knew they were getting max minutes - that's how you get max performance, and talented guys will deliver. When you are maxing minutes of guys that are so overmatched and have no higher ceiling than a Derrick, Jake, Juan - you aint going to win.
None of JJJ, Burton, Dawson SNIFFED 27+ minutes per game last season or this season. Buzz and Wojo had the option to give them more minutes - they chose to be loyal to highly deficient veterans - and why it should be a shock to anyone that we bricked last season and now this when we are maxing minutes of guys like Derrick, Jake Thomas, and Juan Anderson is beyond me.
The record last year, and again this year didn't/won't lie. Greatly underperforming the talent available on the roster.
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Guess Scoop has become an infinite loop! :o
Yep, and I used to blame Ners. But he's absolved from blame...he truly suffers from delusional thinking...to the point I feel bad for him. But those who REFUSE to ignore his repeated arguments are the real problem. I used to wish Ners would stfu...now I wish those who can't ignore him would
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Or the simpler solution. They weren't as good as advertised so they played less.
"What's that? Hoofprints? There must be a zebra near by!"
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Ners, I'll go back to my previous offer. Lets play 1 on 1 and then drink scotch. I'll allow you to complain about Derrick ad nauseum.
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You can't fart out mental illness.
A lot round here.
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Whatever happened to the idea that we would sticky one thread for people to complain about playing time in?
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That is pure genius Farty.
U r dropping gems.
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Yep, and I used to blame Ners. But he's absolved from blame...he truly suffers from delusional thinking...to the point I feel bad for him. But those who REFUSE to ignore his repeated arguments are the real problem. I used to wish Ners would stfu...now I wish those who can't ignore him would
LOL - Thanks. I appreciate that. You may want to reconsider the source of delusional thinking around here. All last season so many of the usual suspects posted things would get better, Buzz's teams improve, blah, blah, blah - and I said in late November if Buzz didn't change his lineup - the team was going to be awful.
Now, this season, the same group wants to excuse Wojo and give him a pass on this year, when they are nothing but manufactured excuses to excuse what has been a poor performance thus far with regard to on court results.
I'll gladly credit our coaches when they are deserving, and supported Buzz a ton his first 5 years here - last season that changed. Wojo has a nice recruiting class coming in, yet with the transfers, and perhaps another on the way, next season could be ugly - though we will greatly benefit from finally being free from Derrick Wilson running our team 35 minutes per game, and that alone should help a lot.
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Yep, and I used to blame Ners. But he's absolved from blame...he truly suffers from delusional thinking...to the point I feel bad for him. But those who REFUSE to ignore his repeated arguments are the real problem. I used to wish Ners would stfu...now I wish those who can't ignore him would
It really is easy to ignore him if you try.
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It really is easy to ignore him if you try.
For some it's impossible. The "ban yourself from Ners" thread is a perfect exhibit of that