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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuMark on January 28, 2015, 05:34:24 PM
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2015 2 guard from MN.....Mark Miller just predicted he will pick MU on CB....http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Sacar-Anim-at-DeLaSalle-56724/CurrentExpertPredictions
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Still says UNI on the site ;D
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Marquette is really beating out the blue bloods on him
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Marquette is really beating out the blue bloods on him
Yep, looks like the list we beat out to get DWade....
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Marquette is really beating out the blue bloods on him
#2 recruit in Minnesota according to ESPN. So it's not like he's a bad player.
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Marquette is really beating out the blue bloods on him
UNI is 18-2 and ranked No. 18. We'd be lucky to be as good as they are next year. We should hope to beat them out for recruits.
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#2 recruit in Minnesota according to ESPN. So it's not like he's a bad player.
Jay Bee?
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Jay Bee?
Yes, curious to get JayBee's take.
At some point we need to get some of these open scholarships filled. Nick's N situation is concerning. Think JJJ's could be getting dicey as well.
But. Trust the process. #wineveryday
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Yes, curious to get JayBee's take.
At some point we need to get some of these open scholarships filled. Nick's N situation is concerning. Think JJJ's could be getting dicey as well.
But. Trust the process. #wineveryday
JJJ is gone.
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JJJ is gone.
So what. He looks lost out there. Overrated out of HS.
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At some point we need to get some of these open scholarships filled. Nick's N situation is concerning. Think JJJ's could be getting dicey as well.
Yep. Minimum three, and could be looking for up to five scholarships. And none of the banking garbage - this year is kaput, focus the energy on finding some more talent. All we need is to start with 11 bodies, have one transfer, two injuries, and one guy in the doghouse and we're back to scouting the women's team managers for bodies again. Do it right and find five talented players, in addition to those already on board and you can pull a Seton Hall and put together a freshman class that makes an immediate impact and sets the tone for several years of success.
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So what. He looks lost out there. Overrated out of HS.
He could not have been worse today in a very short period, missed a lay-up, played shadow D, took a 3 and missed badly, and then looked bad on D again, then to the bench. Kid is way to soft, and like you said overrated. Always wondered how Buzz got him out of Memphis, I know why, not that good.
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So what. He looks lost out there. Overrated out of HS.
Agreed. He has some tremendous skills, but the ability to impress in AAU games -- on which HS rankings are mostly based -- does not always translate well into the more structured college game where players face sophisticated team defenses.
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Have posted a bit on Sacar here in other threads. Comes from a great program in DeLaSalle, who was at the Alabama A&M game several weeks ago.
Wojo was in town yesterday (here in the Twin Cities) to visit De.
Hardworking, all-around solid player. Most like who on current roster? Sandy. Better slasher to the bucket, but not the outside shooter that Cohen is (shot needs improvement). Size should enable him to defend multiple positions; took a... quiet leadership role with Pulley this summer.
Tough call; could turn out pretty good. Gophers haven't offered - Minnesota fans will flip if Sacar has a great HM career without a Gopher offer. I think what he can potentially be defensively, along with his attacking ability and grinder-type work ethic, it's probably a pretty good match for Wojo in a lot of ways.
No, my whip isn't that big plus I'm still in the Twin Cities tonight. I think they're playing Milwaukee Washington tomorrow.
Goanar Mar (2017), Sacar Anim (2015) guys to watch. Former target & Minnesota-commit Jarvis Johnson is a 2015 as well, along with Josh Collins.
Could MU consider Sacar? Probably
Goanar could be really good. Need more time to tell though.
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Have posted a bit on Sacar here in other threads. Comes from a great program in DeLaSalle, who was at the Alabama A&M game several weeks ago.
Wojo was in town yesterday (here in the Twin Cities) to visit De.
Hardworking, all-around solid player. Most like who on current roster? Sandy. Better slasher to the bucket, but not the outside shooter that Cohen is (shot needs improvement). Size should enable him to defend multiple positions; took a... quiet leadership role with Pulley this summer.
Tough call; could turn out pretty good. Gophers haven't offered - Minnesota fans will flip if Sacar has a great HM career without a Gopher offer. I think what he can potentially be defensively, along with his attacking ability and grinder-type work ethic, it's probably a pretty good match for Wojo in a lot of ways.
Thanks JayBee. Think you raise a good point. Think we will see Wojo recruiting a lot of kids of this type of makeup. Hopefully they are ultimately talented enough too to be successful. The mixtape I watched of him was pretty underwhelming - though he appeared to finish very well with his weak hand.
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Would rather have Ricky Council, but Wojo apparently hasn't offered. Doesn't seem to be much question about his shooting ability.
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#2 recruit in Minnesota according to ESPN. So it's not like he's a bad player.
Love to cherry pick Minnesota's best! ;)
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I respect and trust Miller's opinions. I keep waiting (hoping actually) for him to change his Diamond Stone prediction from UW to us!! He's held UW as his favorite for DIamond since last August I think.
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JJJ is gone.
Not yet he's not. If he was, Wojo wouldn't let him sniff playing time. He may decide to transfer, if he does, it will be because he couldn't cut it at this level.
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I don't care if a kid is ranked 2 or 3 stars. If they can play like those kids on Butler I'll be happy.
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Not yet he's not. If he was, Wojo wouldn't let him sniff playing time. He may decide to transfer, if he does, it will be because he couldn't cut it at this level.
The "dumb hyperbolic" crowd is growing apparently TAMU
Yeah Wojo must love his game and he's in his plans for the future, obvious by his conference minutes, and his whopping 7 last night!!
Coaches b.s. a lot about what they think of their players, but the minutes they give their players is all you need to know.
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The "dumb hyperbolic" crowd is growing apparently TAMU
Yeah Wojo must love his game and he's in his plans for the future, obvious by his conference minutes, and his whopping 7 last night!!
Coaches b.s. a lot about what they think of their players, but the minutes they give their players is all you need to know.
Your comment was still dumb and hyperbolic. There's a difference between saying a kid might transfer because he can't contribute on a team and saying he's not cut out for D1 ball.
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Your comment was still dumb and hyperbolic. There's a difference between saying a kid might transfer because he can't contribute on a team and saying he's not cut out for D1 ball.
Never once in any way, shape, or form have I stated, or even implied that he's not a D1 player. Never. Go back and look at every post of mine and you won't find that. I've certainly stated he's not a player the caliber of D1 we're competing at. Look back at e everything I wrote in that thread in particular that led to your response.
Don't make up sh** because your comment was so off base. I have said he's at best a mid major guy, a Horizon Leaguer, etc.
I really hate posters who lie
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Never once in any way, shape, or form have I stated, or even implied that he's not a D1 player. Never. Go back and look at every post of mine and you won't find that. Don't make up sh** because your comment was so off base. I have said he's at best a mid major guy, a Horizon Leaguer, etc.
I really hate posters who lie
Now c'mon man, can't you be a bit more politically correct? Scoop posters never lie, however they do excel at making stuff up!!!!!
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Never once in any way, shape, or form have I stated, or even implied that he's not a D1 player. Never. Go back and look at every post of mine and you won't find that. I've certainly stated he's not a player the caliber of D1 we're competing at. Look back at e everything I wrote in that thread in particular that led to your response.
Don't make up sh** because your comment was so off base. I have said he's at best a mid major guy, a Horizon Leaguer, etc.
I really hate posters who lie
I don't lie. I'm referring to when you were making comments about him needing to go to CYO level ball to score any points. I don't think CYO is considered D1.
Look, I agree with you that JjJ was overranked and is struggling greatly. But you have been going off on this kid like...well...Ners on Derrick. For being the worst guy on a roster, JjJ is actually pretty solid. It's ok to have a sophomore on the roster who isn't helping now but might help in the future. Especially when you have 5 new players and 3 open scholarships for next season.
At this point, I don't see the kid ever becoming a starter for us. But role players are still important. Unless we have someone better who needs his scholarship, then I'd rather keep him around.
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I don't lie. I'm referring to when you were making comments about him needing to go to CYO level ball to score any points. I don't think CYO is considered D1.
Look, I agree with you that JjJ was overranked and is struggling greatly. But you have been going off on this kid like...well...Ners on Derrick. For being the worst guy on a roster, JjJ is actually pretty solid. It's ok to have a sophomore on the roster who isn't helping now but might help in the future. Especially when you have 5 new players and 3 open scholarships for next season.
At this point, I don't see the kid ever becoming a starter for us. But role players are still important. Unless we have someone better who needs his scholarship, then I'd rather keep him around.
Now you're just trying to save face. You and everyone else on this board knew that CYO comment wasn't intended to be serious. And it didn't lead to your dumb and hyperbolic reply. And I've stated several times alluding or flat out saying he's mid major material at best
Anyway you try to distort or twist something is at best disingenuous and at worst lying. Which one are you?
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Now you're just trying to save face. You and everyone else on this board knew that CYO comment wasn't intended to be serious. And it didn't lead to your dumb and hyperbolic reply. And I've stated several times alluding or flat out saying he's mid major material at best
Anyway you try to distort or twist something is at best disingenuous and at worst lying. Which one are you?
What were your thoughts about Vander Blue midway through his sophomore year?
Quite frankly - I wasn't at ALL impressed with Vander midway through his sophomore year. His improvement to what he achieved as a junior shocked me.
As I watch JJJ play, i see a guy VERY similar to Vander at this stage in their respective careers. Not sure if JJJ can make the leap Vander did - yet I just don't feel you throw in the towel on a guy who has some very good building blocks to be a very good player at this level.
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What were your thoughts about Vander Blue midway through his sophomore year?
Quite frankly - I wasn't at ALL impressed with Vander midway through his sophomore year. His improvement to what he achieved as a junior shocked me.
As I watch JJJ play, i see a guy VERY similar to Vander at this stage in their respective careers. Not sure if JJJ can make the leap Vander did - yet I just don't feel you throw in the towel on a guy who has some very good building blocks to be a very good player at this level.
I had pretty much the same assessment of Vander and reaction to his junior year coming out party.
I see two major differences between he and JJJ
1) Vander always had a chip on his shoulder to prove himself that I expect came from the bitter fall out of his Badger decommitment. I don't see any if that in JJJ. Vander was certainly never benched an entire game for poor practices leading up to a game
2). Vander made way more plays defensively, even his first two years. His offensive game justneeded time to catch up, but his athletic gifts were obvious right away at MU
JJJ has had one wow moment, dunk at St Johns. And that was in part poor defense and rotation.
We can and will do better than JJJ in recruiting.
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What were your thoughts about Vander Blue midway through his sophomore year?
Quite frankly - I wasn't at ALL impressed with Vander midway through his sophomore year. His improvement to what he achieved as a junior shocked me.
As I watch JJJ play, i see a guy VERY similar to Vander at this stage in their respective careers. Not sure if JJJ can make the leap Vander did - yet I just don't feel you throw in the towel on a guy who has some very good building blocks to be a very good player at this level.
Offensively, JJJ and Vander are pretty similar. JJJ actually has better body control around the hoop than Vander did his sophomore year. Defensively though, it's not close. Regardless of what the stats say, Vander was a lockdown on ball defender all three years at MU. JJJ is just bad defensively.
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Now you're just trying to save face. You and everyone else on this board knew that CYO comment wasn't intended to be serious. And it didn't lead to your dumb and hyperbolic reply. And I've stated several times alluding or flat out saying he's mid major material at best
Anyway you try to distort or twist something is at best disingenuous and at worst lying. Which one are you?
So then wouldn't that be hyperbolic?
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So then wouldn't that be hyperbolic?
Yes it was, but that's not at all what TAMU called out as such and what he's portraying now. And it was written with the express intent of being humorous.
Read the thread.
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I had pretty much the same assessment of Vander and reaction to his junior year coming out party.
I see two major differences between he and JJJ
1) Vander always had a chip on his shoulder to prove himself that I expect came from the bitter fall out of his Badger decommitment. I don't see any if that in JJJ. Vander was certainly never benched an entire game for poor practices leading up to a game
2). Vander made way more plays defensively, even his first two years. His offensive game justneeded time to catch up, but his athletic gifts were obvious right away at MU
JJJ has had one wow moment, dunk at St Johns. And that was in part poor defense and rotation.
We can and will do better than JJJ in recruiting.
Vander didn't have a coach who worked like that. His coach didn't demand that his players play sound fundamental basketball like Coach Wojo does. It's a different coaching style.
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Offensively, JJJ and Vander are pretty similar. JJJ actually has better body control around the hoop than Vander did his sophomore year. Defensively though, it's not close. Regardless of what the stats say, Vander was a lockdown on ball defender all three years at MU. JJJ is just bad defensively.
+1.
As I said earlier, Vander's defensive performance as a sophomore at UW that year was incredible. Guarded Jordan Taylor, Mike Bruesewitz and Ben Brust all in the same game, and got the better of all of them. No flippin' way that JJJ could do that. Not a chance.
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Vander didn't have a coach who worked like that. His coach didn't demand that his players play sound fundamental basketball like Coach Wojo does. It's a different coaching style.
I completely disagree with that. Buzz's teams certainly weren't fundamentally unsound.
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Vander didn't have a coach who worked like that. His coach didn't demand that his players play sound fundamental basketball like Coach Wojo does. It's a different coaching style.
Agree, but quirky as Buzz was, I don't think he tolerated anything less than max effort. He took pride in the junkyard dog mentality his teams had. So if Vander would have had issues with effort and passion, there would have been some fall out over it.
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I had pretty much the same assessment of Vander and reaction to his junior year coming out party.
I see two major differences between he and JJJ
1) Vander always had a chip on his shoulder to prove himself that I expect came from the bitter fall out of his Badger decommitment. I don't see any if that in JJJ. Vander was certainly never benched an entire game for poor practices leading up to a game
2). Vander made way more plays defensively, even his first two years. His offensive game justneeded time to catch up, but his athletic gifts were obvious right away at MU
JJJ has had one wow moment, dunk at St Johns. And that was in part poor defense and rotation.
We can and will do better than JJJ in recruiting.
Good points - particularly Number 1 - Vander definitely had more of a "dog" personality than does JJJ. JJJ is more the happy go lucky type/Jamail Jones.
I'm not sold on the notion that JJJ isn't a good defender, nor very far behind what Vander was as a defender. Would I give Vander the edge defensively? Yes. Though I don't feel the disparity is as great as some here feel.
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I completely disagree with that. Buzz's teams certainly weren't fundamentally unsound.
I probably should've said/meant fundamentally sound decision making. Not that this team has that right now, but there are only so many options with an 8 man roster, of which only 2 are Wojo's recruits (and 1 was really Buzz's who stayed loyal to his commitment). I have said elsewhere that I was at the WLC game with pretty good seats in the preseason and when Burton went up for that "showtime" dunk over a defender while we were leading by a ridiculous amount of points and clanked it off the back of the rim and almost up to the jumbotron, Wojo's reaction told me immediately that Burton was going to have to change his game or he wouldn't be contributing to the team much. Had Burton finished the dunk with Buzz on the sideline, Buzz may have danced around. Had he finished the dunk with Wojo on the sideline, I still think Wojo would've yanked him. Huge difference between Buzz and Wojo.
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I probably should've said/meant fundamentally sound decision making. Not that this team has that right now, but there are only so many options with an 8 man roster, of which only 2 are Wojo's recruits (and 1 was really Buzz's who stayed loyal to his commitment). I have said elsewhere that I was at the WLC game with pretty good seats in the preseason and when Burton went up for that "showtime" dunk over a defender while we were leading by a ridiculous amount of points and clanked it off the back of the rim and almost up to the jumbotron, Wojo's reaction told me immediately that Burton was going to have to change his game or he wouldn't be contributing to the team much. Had Burton finished the dunk with Buzz on the sideline, Buzz may have danced around. Had he finished the dunk with Wojo on the sideline, I still think Wojo would've yanked him. Huge difference between Buzz and Wojo.
And this right here is why I'm not bullish on Wojo. Hey, let's take the FUN out of the game for a kid (and fans) for wanting to go highlight reel, when he's got a history of making highlight reel plays.
Oddly, Wojo just yanked JJJ for not apparently going hard enough on the first half pull up 2 foot shot - Burton goes super hard, and it's not "fundamentally sound" enough for the square personality of Wojo...and gets yanked.
Ugh. Perhaps we will soon look like most Wisconsin teams (other than the current one): Fundamentally sound, gritty, lunch pail mentality. Question is, will Wojo be able to coach them up as Bo Ryan has? Bo had a track record of 25+ years of MAJOR success as a head coach prior to coming to UW.
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I keep getting quick glances of this thread subject quickly and see: "Scar animal".
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I keep getting quick glances of this thread subject quickly and see: "Scar animal".
Hey man. Don't be making fun of names or you will be getting a PC dissertation on religion, slavery, and how evil this country is. See the thread on Maurice O'Field.
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Now you're just trying to save face. You and everyone else on this board knew that CYO comment wasn't intended to be serious. And it didn't lead to your dumb and hyperbolic reply. And I've stated several times alluding or flat out saying he's mid major material at best
Anyway you try to distort or twist something is at best disingenuous and at worst lying. Which one are you?
I'm neither. My comment was in reply your anti-JjJ campaign that you've been putting on for the past two weeks, not one specific comment. You started with he's overrated, then said he sucked, then said he was mid-major talent, forgive me if I took your comment about him playing CYO ball seriously. It was the trajectory you were on.
Rather than discarding a kid who isn't living up to expectations, I would prefer to keep him on the bench and help him develop. If he never pans out, oh well. He's still better than an empty scholarship. Stop thinking about him as a former top 40 player. Think about him as the second worst player on the roster. Every team has one. By that standard, he actually has pretty good production.
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I have said elsewhere that I was at the WLC game with pretty good seats in the preseason and when Burton went up for that "showtime" dunk over a defender while we were leading by a ridiculous amount of points and clanked it off the back of the rim and almost up to the jumbotron, Wojo's reaction told me immediately that Burton was going to have to change his game or he wouldn't be contributing to the team much. Had Burton finished the dunk with Buzz on the sideline, Buzz may have danced around. Had he finished the dunk with Wojo on the sideline, I still think Wojo would've yanked him. Huge difference between Buzz and Wojo.
I can't imagine any modern day coach basically being "anti-highlight reel play." It's likely that there was a separate issue, such as Wojo wanting Burton to pull it back and run the offense but was ignored or Burton playing lazy D and trying to cherry-pick or DB's effort on D compared to O. DB sat out less than 3 minutes after getting pulled so it was probably a teaching moment.
JJJ didn't get pulled after his dunk at StJ. Derrick didn't get pulled after his dunk against G'town. The idea that Wojo pulled Burton for trying to make a big play just doesn't seem plausible.
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I can't imagine any modern day coach basically being "anti-highlight reel play." It's likely that there was a separate issue, such as Wojo wanting Burton to pull it back and run the offense but was ignored or Burton playing lazy D and trying to cherry-pick or DB's effort on D compared to O. DB sat out less than 3 minutes after getting pulled so it was probably a teaching moment.
JJJ didn't get pulled after his dunk at StJ. Derrick didn't get pulled after his dunk against G'town. The idea that Wojo pulled Burton for trying to make a big play just doesn't seem plausible.
But Wojo did pull him...
And how would Burton really know in a steal/fast break/transition situation that Wojo wants him to pull it out and run the offense..?
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I can't imagine any modern day coach basically being "anti-highlight reel play." It's likely that there was a separate issue, such as Wojo wanting Burton to pull it back and run the offense but was ignored or Burton playing lazy D and trying to cherry-pick or DB's effort on D compared to O. DB sat out less than 3 minutes after getting pulled so it was probably a teaching moment.
JJJ didn't get pulled after his dunk at StJ. Derrick didn't get pulled after his dunk against G'town. The idea that Wojo pulled Burton for trying to make a big play just doesn't seem plausible.
It was just a stupid play and you could tell Wojo was not happy with the decision. I don't think Wojo is against a highlight real play, but I think he is against trying to dunk the basketball over 2 guys when a simple layup would score just as many points. The chances of making the dunk were slim to none, of trying to maneuver around the defenders and making a layup much higher. Burton was trying to make a highlight play just to make a highlight, whereas Derrick would've been swatted if he attempted a layup and ended up making a highlight because it was his only chance at finishing the play. I think Wojo expects his players to make the same play in any given situation regardless of the score of the basketball game. If he feels as though Burton should have taken the layup in a 2 point game, he would expect him to do so in a 40 point game like WLC. Big difference in my mind, and I think that's what Wojo saw as well.
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Are we doing the thing where every thread turns into the same topic?
C'mon guys.
Let's not do that this season.
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What were your thoughts about Vander Blue midway through his sophomore year?
Quite frankly - I wasn't at ALL impressed with Vander midway through his sophomore year. His improvement to what he achieved as a junior shocked me.
As I watch JJJ play, i see a guy VERY similar to Vander at this stage in their respective careers. Not sure if JJJ can make the leap Vander did - yet I just don't feel you throw in the towel on a guy who has some very good building blocks to be a very good player at this level.
Ners, Ners, Ners. To say that you weren't ALL that impressed with Vander's game midway through sophomore year would be the understatement of the century. IIRC you hated his game.
That's not important, though. You think that Vander and JJJ are pretty much the same player at the same stage. Statistics and common sense say differently. I'm going to compare Vander's entire year to JJJ half year because I don't want to take the time to separate out his first 16 games of that year. Given the fact that the cupcake portion of our season is over and that JJJ's play is seriously trending down that's a big edge to JJJ but no matter. Let's see how they stack up:
Where JJJ has the edge:
1. Points per 40/minutes: 14.8 - 13.2.
2. Steals per 40/minutes: 2.2 - 1.8
3. FT% : 74.3 - 70.8
Where Vander has the edge:
1. Rebounds per 40/min.: 6.9 - 5.4
2. Assists per 40/minutes: 4.1 - 3.4
3. Turnovers per 40/min.: 3.4 - 4.8
4. Field Goal % : 41.8 - 40.8
5. 3 Point % : 25.8 - 15.9
6. Assist/TO ratio : 1.1/1- .7/1
Much, much more important than numbers, though, are the story that they tell about the player's basketball IQ and their willingness to play to their strengths. Vander was a bad 3 point shooter (25.8%). He knew it, his coach knew it, we all knew it. To his credit, he shot only 31 in 901 minutes, 1.37 per 40 minutes. JJJ is an epic bad 3 point shooter, much worse than Vander. Wojo knows it, we know it, but apparently JJJ doesn't. He's launched 44 in 379 minutes, 4.65 per 40 minutes. Incredible.
As a corollary, one thing Vander did pretty well (70.8%)and JJJ does even better (74.3%) is shoot free throws. Vander played to his strength, shooting 120 FTs in 901 minutes, 5.3/per 40. JJJ doesn't. He been to the line 35 times in 379 minutes, 3.7/per 40.
Vander was a smart player who knew his limitations and played accordingly. When you play smart, a coach is more likely to let you play through physical mistakes. JJJ roams the perimeter looking for shots he should never take when he should be driving the basketball to shoot lay ups and free throws. When you check out like that mentally chances for a long leash are nil. Until JJJ learns how to shoot he won't get many minutes being a chucker. And he shouldn't.
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Ners, Ners, Ners. To say that you weren't ALL that impressed with Vander's game midway through sophomore year would be the understatement of the century. IIRC you hated his game.
That's not important, though. You think that Vander and JJJ are pretty much the same player at the same stage. Statistics and common sense say differently. I'm going to compare Vander's entire year to JJJ half year because I don't want to take the time to separate out his first 16 games of that year. Given the fact that the cupcake portion of our season is over and that JJJ's play is seriously trending down that's a big edge to JJJ but no matter. Let's see how they stack up:
Where JJJ has the edge:
1. Points per 40/minutes: 14.8 - 13.2.
2. Steals per 40/minutes: 2.2 - 1.8
3. FT% : 74.3 - 70.8
Where Vander has the edge:
1. Rebounds per 40/min.: 6.9 - 5.4
2. Assists per 40/minutes: 4.1 - 3.4
3. Turnovers per 40/min.: 3.4 - 4.8
4. Field Goal % : 41.8 - 40.8
5. 3 Point % : 25.8 - 15.9
6. Assist/TO ratio : 1.1/1- .7/1
Much, much more important than numbers, though, are the story that they tell about the player's basketball IQ and their willingness to play to their strengths. Vander was a bad 3 point shooter (25.8%). He knew it, his coach knew it, we all knew it. To his credit, he shot only 31 in 901 minutes, 1.37 per 40 minutes. JJJ is an epic bad 3 point shooter, much worse than Vander. Wojo knows it, we know it, but apparently JJJ doesn't. He's launched 44 in 379 minutes, 4.65 per 40 minutes. Incredible.
As a corollary, one thing Vander did pretty well (70.8%)and JJJ does even better (74.3%) is shoot free throws. Vander played to his strength, shooting 120 FTs in 901 minutes, 5.3/per 40. JJJ doesn't. He been to the line 35 times in 379 minutes, 3.7/per 40.
Vander was a smart player who knew his limitations and played accordingly. When you play smart, a coach is more likely to let you play through physical mistakes. JJJ roams the perimeter looking for shots he should never take when he should be driving the basketball to shoot lay ups and free throws. When you check out like that mentally chances for a long leash are nil. Until JJJ learns how to shoot he won't get many minutes being a chucker. And he shouldn't.
Nice post! Wrong thread.
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Nice post! Wrong thread.
My bad. Are there multiple posts in multiple threads by Ners saying Vander=JJJ? Sorry.
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Vander played D as a sophomore, often great D.
JJJ can't spell D.
It's not even close.
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Vander played D as a sophomore, often great D.
JJJ can't spell D.
It's not even close.
You know whose defense stunk last night - Duane, constantly getting beat off the dribble.
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Ners, Ners, Ners. To say that you weren't ALL that impressed with Vander's game midway through sophomore year would be the understatement of the century. IIRC you hated his game.
That's not important, though. You think that Vander and JJJ are pretty much the same player at the same stage. Statistics and common sense say differently. I'm going to compare Vander's entire year to JJJ half year because I don't want to take the time to separate out his first 16 games of that year. Given the fact that the cupcake portion of our season is over and that JJJ's play is seriously trending down that's a big edge to JJJ but no matter. Let's see how they stack up:
Where JJJ has the edge:
1. Points per 40/minutes: 14.8 - 13.2.
2. Steals per 40/minutes: 2.2 - 1.8
3. FT% : 74.3 - 70.8
Where Vander has the edge:
1. Rebounds per 40/min.: 6.9 - 5.4
2. Assists per 40/minutes: 4.1 - 3.4
3. Turnovers per 40/min.: 3.4 - 4.8
4. Field Goal % : 41.8 - 40.8
5. 3 Point % : 25.8 - 15.9
6. Assist/TO ratio : 1.1/1- .7/1
Much, much more important than numbers, though, are the story that they tell about the player's basketball IQ and their willingness to play to their strengths. Vander was a bad 3 point shooter (25.8%). He knew it, his coach knew it, we all knew it. To his credit, he shot only 31 in 901 minutes, 1.37 per 40 minutes. JJJ is an epic bad 3 point shooter, much worse than Vander. Wojo knows it, we know it, but apparently JJJ doesn't. He's launched 44 in 379 minutes, 4.65 per 40 minutes. Incredible.
As a corollary, one thing Vander did pretty well (70.8%)and JJJ does even better (74.3%) is shoot free throws. Vander played to his strength, shooting 120 FTs in 901 minutes, 5.3/per 40. JJJ doesn't. He been to the line 35 times in 379 minutes, 3.7/per 40.
Vander was a smart player who knew his limitations and played accordingly. When you play smart, a coach is more likely to let you play through physical mistakes. JJJ roams the perimeter looking for shots he should never take when he should be driving the basketball to shoot lay ups and free throws. When you check out like that mentally chances for a long leash are nil. Until JJJ learns how to shoot he won't get many minutes being a chucker. And he shouldn't.
You missed one key category..."Sophomore Year Slap of Five Refusals:"
Vander - 1
JJJ - 0
Ergo JJJ is the better player.
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Read up and watched highlights and interview with him. It seems a lot of schools showing interest- Wisconsin, Creighton, Colorado, Minnesota, and some others, but none of those have offered yet. I wonder what's up with that? Supposedly an excellent defender. I believe I read a coaches son too. Sounds like an intriguing prospect, but don't get why high majors are hestitating still with offers? The May signing period isn't that far off now.
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Cool sounding name too - it's got some panache to it.
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I don't see how we're not overwhelming favorites for him considering who else has offered. UNI, sure good program, great record this year, but the quintessential mid-major. Chance to play at a storied program, for a Coach K disciple and ex-player, and add to a consensus top 5 class? Unless there are intangibles going on we don't know about, seems he's likely to be our guy if we're serious about him at all.
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Definitely seems like Wojo is playing his cards close to the chest. Hasn't offered anybody recently. Buzz used to hand out offers like beads at Mardi Gras. Spray them everywhere and see who he could reel in. It seems Wojo is only going to offer if he knows for sure that this kid is the one he wants. High risk, high reward
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The May signing period isn't that far off now.
The regular signing period, for those who wish to use it, begins April 15. Not necessary, though.
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The regular signing period, for those who wish to use it, begins April 15. Not necessary, though.
Forgot it gets going in April already, thanks.
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The regular signing period, for those who wish to use it, begins April 15. Not necessary, though.
Have you seen him play in person? How many times?
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Have you seen him play in person? How many times?
Yes; couldn't tell you other than "dozens"
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Yes; couldn't tell you other than "dozens"
Any ideas why the high majors seem slow to offer the kid?
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Buzz used to hand out offers like beads at Mardi Gras.
Yeah, and I've heard amazing stories about what Satchel Pierce flashed Buzz after catching a strand of those bad boys.
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Definitely seems like Wojo is playing his cards close to the chest. Hasn't offered anybody recently. Buzz used to hand out offers like beads at Mardi Gras. Spray them everywhere and see who he could reel in. It seems Wojo is only going to offer if he knows for sure that this kid is the one he wants. High risk, high reward
Many of Buzz's offers were also conditional or short time offers. The "if we don't get X you have an offer" or "you have an offer but have to decide in two days". Made it look like we had more offers out than we did.
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JJJ is gone.
Bye.
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Bye.
Exactly
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I don't see how we're not overwhelming favorites for him considering who else has offered. UNI, sure good program, great record this year, but the quintessential mid-major. Chance to play at a storied program, for a Coach K disciple and ex-player, and add to a consensus top 5 class? Unless there are intangibles going on we don't know about, seems he's likely to be our guy if we're serious about him at all.
While 247 may not have us as overwhelming favorites, Mark Miller picking Anim to Marquette makes me feel pretty confident that he'll end up here. Jay Bee will be the first to point out Crystal Ball should be used for entertainment purposes only, but Mark was correct on Sandy, Ahmed, Satchel, Shayok, Noskowiak, Heldt, Henry, and Cheatham. Every single time he predicted someone to Marquette, they went to Marquette. The decommits may have hurt his score, but he was right on all of them committing here.
The UNI predictions are all from May, before he was attracting high-major attention. Not sure why no one else has offered yet, but it may be that they are trying to get visits lined up first. FWIW, we also haven't offered yet, but given Miller's prediction, I expect we will soon and Anim will commit within a couple days of that.
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While 247 may not have us as overwhelming favorites, Mark Miller picking Anim to Marquette makes me feel pretty confident that he'll end up here. Jay Bee will be the first to point out Crystal Ball should be used for entertainment purposes only, but Mark was correct on Sandy, Ahmed, Satchel, Shayok, Noskowiak, Heldt, Henry, and Cheatham. Every single time he predicted someone to Marquette, they went to Marquette. The decommits may have hurt his score, but he was right on all of them committing here.
The UNI predictions are all from May, before he was attracting high-major attention. Not sure why no one else has offered yet, but it may be that they are trying to get visits lined up first. FWIW, we also haven't offered yet, but given Miller's prediction, I expect we will soon and Anim will commit within a couple days of that.
Ahmed, Satchel And Marial were actually not decommitts as they signed NLIs with MU and were subsequently release. So, Mark's score is still the same as guys cannot sign a new NLI. They are like transfers in that respect.
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Jerry Meyer has also predicted Anim to Marquette. Maybe he's just copying Miller but things are definitely trending towards Marquette. Like was posted above, Mark Miller hasn't missed yet when he predicts someone to Marquette.
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Jerry Meyer has also predicted Anim to Marquette. Maybe he's just copying Miller but things are definitely trending towards Marquette. Like was posted above, Mark Miller hasn't missed yet when he predicts someone to Marquette.
There is no maybe about it. Jerry is smart.
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Ahmed, Satchel And Marial were actually not decommitts as they signed NLIs with MU and were subsequently release. So, Mark's score is still the same as guys cannot sign a new NLI. They are like transfers in that respect.
If you look at his profile, it has him as 3/8 on his 2014 predictions. 3 of those misses are Hill, Pierce, and Shayok.
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1724234
Talent on display at Timberwolves Shootout
Eric Bossi - January 11, 2015
Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting Analyst
MINNEAPOLIS -- The Timberwolves Shootout hasn't always gotten the national media coverage of some other big winter events but, make no mistake, it is a quality event. At least 27 future NBA players have hit the floor of the Target Center during the event's history and there were more hopefuls on hand Saturday. Unsigned senior guard Sacar Anim showed that he has taken the next step while star power forward Henry Ellenson and touted four-star point guard Marcus LoVett each went for 39. Four-star shooting guard Gary Trent Jr. also impressed.
Anim and LoVett duel
In what was easily the best game of the day, Minneapolis (Minn.) DeLaSalle and Chicago (Ill.) Morgan Park locked up in a game that featured a couple of teams really going at it while a pair of unsigned seniors had big days. For victorious DeLaSalle, unsigned senior shooting guard Sacar Anim went for 31 points while Morgan Park's unsigned four-star point guard Marcus LoVet scored 39 entertaining points in a tough loss.
Since his team took home the win, we will begin with Anim. A 6-foot-4 shooting guard who has attracted mid major offers and growing high major interest, Anim was at his best when his team needed him the most.
Early on, Anim had to fight through foul trouble and managed 12 of his points despite playing relatively passively in the first half. In the second, Anim took over on both ends of the floor as he helped his team erase a double-digit deficit.
A good athlete with a college ready build, Anim does a little bit of everything. He rebounds, he plays good on the ball and team defense and he can help out handling the ball against pressure. He finished on strong drives to the basket, converted from the free throw line and knocked down jump shots when there were openings. Anim plays a similar style to a guy we've written about a lot this winter, Tyson Jolly from Oklahoma City (Okla.) Putnam City West.
"It's definitely been a big step for me as a player," Anim said. "I've put in the work for it and I know that everything that is happening for me with my game, I deserve it."
According to Anim, he has attracted offers from programs like South Dakota, South Dakota State, North Dakota, Furman, Rhode Island, Northern Iowa, Indiana State and Drake while Marquette, Miami and Northwestern have been sniffing around.
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If he can hit an open three, sign him up.
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If he can hit an open three, sign him up.
His outside shooting is considered a weakness. More of a slasher that can hit the mid range shot than a sniper. I expect any sharpshooters added to come via transfer.
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His outside shooting is considered a weakness. More of a slasher that can hit the mid range shot than a sniper. I expect any sharpshooters added to come via transfer.
Sigh. We already have enough guys who can't stick a jumper. Does Steve Novak have any eligibility left?
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Haanif and Henry are considered shooters.
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Anim seems like a reach. Ricky Council looks like the better overall talent and safer bet to pan out.
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He doesn't shoot many 3's only 13 for the year making 4.....almost 80% from the free throw line though.....http://www.mnbasketballhub.com/stats/team_instance/874608?subseason=175794&tab=team_instance_player_stats&tool=1140465
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He doesn't shoot many 3's only 13 for the year making 4.....almost 80% from the free throw line though.....http://www.mnbasketballhub.com/stats/team_instance/874608?subseason=175794&tab=team_instance_player_stats&tool=1140465
Something is off on those stats though unless I am just completely out of it.
It says he is average 25.9 PPG through 13 games on 33/50 from the field and 23 free throws.
Don't need to do the math to know that isn't even close to possible.
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Something is off on those stats though unless I am just completely out of it.
It says he is average 25.9 PPG through 13 games on 33/50 from the field and 23 free throws.
Don't need to do the math to know that isn't even close to possible.
H232 is right. Those stats can't possibly be right.
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Something is off on those stats though unless I am just completely out of it.
It says he is average 25.9 PPG through 13 games on 33/50 from the field and 23 free throws.
Don't need to do the math to know that isn't even close to possible.
Yeah, I love the guy who has hit 1 FG and 0 FTs all season...and averages 3.4 PPG through 13 games. Must've been one heck of a shot....
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Maybe he gets bonus points for style?
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Here's a link to his player page: http://www.mnbasketballhub.com/roster_players/6724339
Stats get thrown off because his point totals are entered for every game but not his fgm/fga. So the PPG is probably accurate while the percentages are not.
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Anim seems like a reach. Ricky Council looks like the better overall talent and safer bet to pan out.
Only one service, but 247 has Anim ranked 174 and Council ranked 323. I'd be very happy w Anim, giving us a class of:(to this point)
PG: Noskowiak
SG: Anim
SF: Cheatham
PF: Ellenson
C: Heldt
One man per position and all ranked 4/5 stars by ESPN. Yes please.
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Here's a link to his player page: http://www.mnbasketballhub.com/roster_players/6724339
Stats get thrown off because his point totals are entered for every game but not his fgm/fga. So the PPG is probably accurate while the percentages are not.
Yeah my thoughts were that the PPG were for the full season(has him at 337 pts which is correct) while the FG attempts were for the last handful of games.
No way a top high school SG is only taking 1 3 a game. Not really their mind set lol.
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Wondering if Council's ranking hasn't been updated since his senior year. Regardless, I look more at the quality of schools each is being recruited by. Council's drawn interest from the likes of Providence, Tulsa and Creighton. Not world beaters, but a more impressive list than Anim and his list. Another red flag I see is that hometown UofM hasn't even offered Anim yet. Seems odd. We can do better.
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Everybody has an opinion on Sacar and 99% of you have never seen him play.i would not read to much into who and who isn't recruiting him.It means nothing.
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Everybody has an opinion on Sacar and 99% of you have never seen him play.i would not read to much into who and who isn't recruiting him.It means nothing.
Actually, I believe that's the best way to determine how good a player is. If the elites are after a player, odds are he's pretty damn good. Conversely, if a bunch of low mid-majors are in on a player, I question how good he is.
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Actually, I believe that's the best way to determine how good a player is. If the elites are after a player, odds are he's pretty damn good. Conversely, if a bunch of low mid-majors are in on a player, I question how good he is.
Marquette, Creighton, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska and Wisconsin are all recruiting Anim. None have offered. MU is also in a more flexible position since we still have 3 open spots for next season.
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Actually, I believe that's the best way to determine how good a player is. If the elites are after a player, odds are he's pretty damn good. Conversely, if a bunch of low mid-majors are in on a player, I question how good he is.
I get your point but some of our best players were not recruited by "elites" or even top 25-50 programs out of high school.
Jimmy was a qualifier out of high school...only high major to show interest was Miss State...and they didn't offer...Crowder had no high major offers out of high school....We beat out Depaul and Illinois state for Wade....DJO wasn't highly recruited out of high school.......Tony Smith wasn't highly recruited....ditto for Tony Miller
Could he be a washout:? Sure...but really so could anyone else we sign.
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Marquette, Creighton, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska and Wisconsin are all recruiting Anim. None have offered. MU is also in a more flexible position since we still have 3 open spots for next season.
That's a very solid list. I'm sure he's a fine player. Just hope he can hit a jumper consistently.
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I get your point but some of our best players were not recruited by "elites" or even top 25-50 programs out of high school.
Jimmy was a qualifier out of high school...only high major to show interest was Miss State...and they didn't offer...Crowder had no high major offers out of high school....We beat out Depaul and Illinois state for Wade....DJO wasn't highly recruited out of high school.......Tony Smith wasn't highly recruited....ditto for Tony Miller
Could he be a washout:? Sure...but really so could anyone else we sign.
I seem to remember Kentucky recruiting JFB. But you raise a good point. Talented players can always slip through the cracks.
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The leading scorer in D1 plays for Eastern Washington and was recruited by no one as well.
Sure, he doesn't play the greatest competition but he also isn't a product of chucking it on a bad team. Shooting 51% as a guard and mid 40s from deep.
It definitely isn't all about who is in on you. Anim has been rising late and has a very nice game. Jarvis Johnson on his own team was a McDs AA finalist and Anim scores 10 more per game than Jarvis. Granted completely different games but still...
If we get him Id be more than happy seeing if he pans out.
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As mentioned earlier, I think it's important that in a lot of ways Anim would be a good fit for Wojo - at this stage of the game (relative to Wojo's tenure) that may be all the more important here.
Sacar's development under the current staff would be a helpful measuring stick for me as I analyze them.
Re: the 3-point shooting, stats, etc comments.. I'll share a few pieces of info re: the last two years of EYBL play.
Playing up 2 years ago:
- 60% minutes - this was when Tyus Jones and Reid Travis led the team (Howard Pulley)
- 97 ORtg, 14 to 15%-ish usage and %Shots. Role player.
- 44.5% eFG. 27% of FGA's were 3's. 48.1% 2FG, 23.3% 3FG (7/30).
- 14% turnover rate
- FTrate 47%; FT% 68.6%.
- Steal% 2.1% (FC/40 3.4)
This summer:
- 65% minutes
- 109 Ortg; 25% Usage; 23% Shots. Pulley had difference guys step up depending on the game, but Sacar was always a top option.
- 46.2% eFG%. 23% 3FGA/FGA. 48.5% 2FG; 25.6% 3FG (10/39).
- <12% turnover rate
- FTRate 56%; FT% 75.3%
- Steal% 1.8%
PS - not directly related, but had a dream that Jamal Murray reclassed to '15 and came to MU.
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Bottom line, Jay Bee, would you like to see him at MU? (I get the sense that you do). Make the case either way. I really appreciate your insight on this recruit.
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I seem to remember Kentucky recruiting JFB. But you raise a good point. Talented players can always slip through the cracks.
Kentucky did recruit him but that was after a year of Juco not out of high school......
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Maybe he can shoot......
TC Hoops Czar @tchoopsczar · 50m50 minutes ago
#1AAA DeLaSalle def #4AAAA Armstrong 89-60. Sacar Anim 34, 6 3s. Jerome Dixon 21
Dan Gjerning @BleedNovaBlue · 6h6 hours ago
Whoever signs Sacar Anim, whether it's DePaul, Marquette or some other high level school, is getting a STEAL.
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Maybe he can shoot......
TC Hoops Czar @tchoopsczar · 50m50 minutes ago
#1AAA DeLaSalle def #4AAAA Armstrong 89-60. Sacar Anim 34, 6 3s. Jerome Dixon 21
Dan Gjerning @BleedNovaBlue · 6h6 hours ago
Whoever signs Sacar Anim, whether it's DePaul, Marquette or some other high level school, is getting a STEAL.
Good grab! Thanks for sharing.
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Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson Jan 28
Marquette coach Steve Wojciechowski was at DeLaSalle HS yesterday. Has his eyes on Sr. Sacar Anim. Still no sense the #Gophers will offer.
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De also played a tough team on Friday night (St. Croix Lutheran) and beat them 61-47. Sacar had 18 to lead the team in scoring. Intriguing 2017 Goanar Mar had 14.
#24 got some up close views. smh
(http://i.imgur.com/leiioP6.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/7pBwiyZ.jpg)
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With limited prospects left, and 3 scholarships, potentially more, needing to be filled, I wouldn't be surprised if Wojo offered him soon.
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and there it is.....MN Hoopers Stand Up @MNHSU · 4m 4 minutes ago
De La Salle 2015 SG Sacar Amin has received a offer from Marquette University @Sacar_Anim15 @NorthernXPreps @areacodes @IslanderHoopsDT
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and there it is.....MN Hoopers Stand Up @MNHSU · 4m 4 minutes ago
De La Salle 2015 SG Sacar Amin has received a offer from Marquette University @Sacar_Anim15 @NorthernXPreps @areacodes @IslanderHoopsDT
Glad to hear it. Sic 'em Wojo
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Badgers now showing strong interest in Sacar per Mark Miller
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Fook the Vadgers. Get this done WoJo.
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Ryan James @RyanJamesMN 13m13 minutes ago
Sacar Anim expected to take his official trip to Marquette the 18th and 19th of February. Anim is a DeLaSalle wing
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Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook 27m27 minutes ago
Final from Border Battle, DeLaSalle 73, Kimberly 61. Austin Weyenberg with 22 for KHS, Sacar Anim with 24 for DLS.
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Ryan James @RyanJamesMN · 3 hours ago
Steve Wojciechowski of Marquette watched DeLaSalle wing Sacar Anim at practice this morning according to An Islander source
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Ryan James @RyanJamesMN · 3 hours ago
Steve Wojciechowski of Marquette watched DeLaSalle wing Sacar Anim at practice this morning according to An Islander source
He must really want this kid, that is for sure. This must be his #1 choice for spring? Yes or no.
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PG - Anim - Outlaw?
PG - Anim - ????
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He must really want this kid, that is for sure. This must be his #1 choice for spring? Yes or no.
Definitely seems like the top high school target at the moment.
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Definitely seems like the top high school target at the moment.
I do like his size, bigger than JJJ, so he could play the 2 or 3, a switchable. I just read he is awful young and may switch to 2016 classification. But in saying that, Wojo could always red-shirt him even though MU is not in the position to redshirt anybody right now.
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I do like his size, bigger than JJJ, so he could play the 2 or 3, a switchable. I just read he is awful young and may switch to 2016 classification. But in saying that, Wojo could always red-shirt him even though MU is not in the position to redshirt anybody right now.
Bigger? I've seen Sacar listed at 6-4, 185 and some think he might be an inch or two shorter than that. JJJ is listed at 6-5, 200. Yeah, JJJ came to MU at 175 so Sacar is a more muscular than that. He's also got some pounds on Cheatham who's listed at 6-5, 175. I do agree that Sacar looks like a wing who'll play the 2 or 3 but he'll need to put on some muscle in college.
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Went to see how my commute home was looking and came aross this Sacar Anim interview. Fast forward to 2:55. Reporter later asks about the MU offer, he says he was pretty excited to get it. Then asked to list offers. Rattles off 9, with MU sounding like the top offer so far. He is likely waiting to see if Pitino JR and the Gophers offer so he can play with current teammate Jarvis Johnson.
http://kstp.com/sports/stories/S3703080.shtml
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Official visit is this Wednesday.
The more I research Sacar, the more I like him. A lot.
Legit 6-5 height, 6-8 wing span, very aggressive to the hoop, loves to play hard D, great free throw shooter, and a dramatically improved jump shot which now requires defenders to stay tight on him. He would fit a great need for a slashing wing.
I hope Wojo can snag him. They he can grab a juco/grad PG, and juco/grad rebounding forward. Bank the fourth schollie for 16 class.
I know people are pissed about how low we've gone. I'm not happy either. But lots of possibilities in the near future. It starts with Sacar. Let's get him Wojo.
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Badgers now showing strong interest in Sacar per Mark Miller
Badgers were never really showing strong interest. Not really sure where that Miller tweet came from. The tweet was even refuted by a couple others after it came out. Khalil Iverson was their first choice (right or wrong) as they had monitored Anim for a while but never offered. Anim seems like a solid player and a nice get. Have to think Marquette is in a great position to land him
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Badgers were never really showing strong interest. Not really sure where that Miller tweet came from. The tweet was even refuted by a couple others after it came out. Khalil Iverson was their first choice (right or wrong) as they had monitored Anim for a while but never offered. Anim seems like a solid player and a nice get. Have to think Marquette is in a great position to land him
Pretty sure Mark has a better idea of who is recruiting whom than you do.
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Pretty sure Mark has a better idea of who is recruiting whom than you do.
@McNamaraRivals: From talking to a few people, #Wisconsin is not going after Sacar Anim. Diamond Stone and Khalil Iverson are top 2 options to finish class.
Not going off my gut. I am going off what I read and what makes sense. McNamara said the Badgers were not going after Anim. Wisconsin had recently offered Iverson and then sent their whole staff down to visit Iverson. No mentions of Anim recently and in a recent interview with Anim on Gopherhole he didnt mention Wisconsin at all.
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@McNamaraRivals: From talking to a few people, #Wisconsin is not going after Sacar Anim. Diamond Stone and Khalil Iverson are top 2 options to finish class.
Not going off my gut. I am going off what I read and what makes sense. McNamara said the Badgers were not going after Anim. Wisconsin had recently offered Iverson and then sent their whole staff down to visit Iverson. No mentions of Anim recently and in a recent interview with Anim on Gopherhole he didnt mention Wisconsin at all.
This is accurate. Mark talked to Sacar head coach at a turny and he gave out a list of schools, mostly for publicity for Sacar. Because in the past the Badgers were on him.
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I for one do not give a rat's ass about who the Badgers are recruiting or whether the Badgers are interested in kids we are going after hard. Wojo doesn't need Bo's approval before signing kids if you ask me.
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I for one do not give a rat's ass about who the Badgers are recruiting or whether the Badgers are interested in kids we are going after hard. Wojo doesn't need Bo's approval before signing kids if you ask me.
There was a post about the Badgers being interested and it was incorrect. Wojo is a big boy and will recruit who he feels is worthy of a scholarship. I mainly was just posting to say Marquette wasnt recruiting against UW for Anim. I have no idea how good Anim is just like I have no idea how good Iverson is. Both seem like solid recruits.
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Does not sound like Gophers are very active with Sacar. Hope Wojo can get a commitment on his visit this week.
http://www.gopherhole.com/news_article/show/477828?referrer_id=388419
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Does not sound like Gophers are very active with Sacar. Hope Wojo can get a commitment on his visit this week.
http://www.gopherhole.com/news_article/show/477828?referrer_id=388419
He sounds like a kid with a lot to prove and the game that is starting to dictate that he could prove it. He is looking increasingly more like a sneaky good get.
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The more I research Sacar, the more I like him. A lot.
(http://www.straitpinkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/CreanMeme51.jpg)
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Evan Flood agrees with Mark Miller ........@Evan_Flood: #Badgers giving a late look to 2015 G/F Sacar Anim http://t.co/FZcqi5AlQ0 (VIP)
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Evan Flood agrees with Mark Miller ........@Evan_Flood: #Badgers giving a late look to 2015 G/F Sacar Anim http://t.co/FZcqi5AlQ0 (VIP)
The Badger clowns love to rip Mark Miller but he knows his stuff. No one knows the UW program better than Flood. For me, Miller saying it is good enough, but Flood backing him is the strongest endorsement you can get outside of Bo himself.
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Wasn't sure where a good place to put it would be, but I think I know who Wojo's biggest target is aside from Sacar: Traci Carter. I was told that Wojo has made multiple trips to Philly (where Carter lives) "trying to find us a PG". And because I am in college I feel comfortable looking into the Twitter tea leaves. Wojo just recently followed Traci on Twitter, just posted a little while ago how he's been on the road for 3 straight days recruiting, and has "favorited" a few of Traci's recent tweets (knowing that isn't that weird when it's one of the main things that pops up on someone's Twit profile). To put that in perspective, Wojo frequently favorites tweets from Henry, Haanif, and current players on the team. Maybe that's a way for him to express interest in someone, connect, I don't know.
What I do know is that Traci looks like a total stud. Has offers from plenty of great high majors and looks to be the best HS PG prospect left. We haven't offered yet I don't think but I would expect that to change in the near future. Won't be easy to lure Traci away as it looks like he's a UCONN lean at the moment, but he looks like the kinda guy who can come in and contribute from the get-go - I'd imagine Wojo is selling him on the fact that he gets the keys right away. I'm sure his highlights and info have been posted before but I thought I'd bump it considering we are all clamoring for a PG. Here are some of his highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBT3CqS5C20
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I would love to see us get Carter. Though with UConn, Pitt, NC State, Memphis, SMU, FSU, and Tennessee all involved, it will be a battle. The real worry for me is Louisville. They haven't offered, but Carter has visited there and his coach is UL legend Pervis Ellison. Love to see Wojo get a visit and commit, but it won't be easy.
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Wasn't sure where a good place to put it would be, but I think I know who Wojo's biggest target is aside from Sacar: Traci Carter. I was told that Wojo has made multiple trips to Philly (where Carter lives) "trying to find us a PG". And because I am in college I feel comfortable looking into the Twitter tea leaves. Wojo just recently followed Traci on Twitter, just posted a little while ago how he's been on the road for 3 straight days recruiting, and has "favorited" a few of Traci's recent tweets (knowing that isn't that weird when it's one of the main things that pops up on someone's Twit profile). To put that in perspective, Wojo frequently favorites tweets from Henry, Haanif, and current players on the team. Maybe that's a way for him to express interest in someone, connect, I don't know.
What I do know is that Traci looks like a total stud. Has offers from plenty of great high majors and looks to be the best HS PG prospect left. We haven't offered yet I don't think but I would expect that to change in the near future. Won't be easy to lure Traci away as it looks like he's a UCONN lean at the moment, but he looks like the kinda guy who can come in and contribute from the get-go - I'd imagine Wojo is selling him on the fact that he gets the keys right away. I'm sure his highlights and info have been posted before but I thought I'd bump it considering we are all clamoring for a PG. Here are some of his highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBT3CqS5C20
Thanks onepostellenson. Very interesting. Traci has a great game and would be perfect to run this team. Kid hates to lose. I believe we already have offered, which is a good thing.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=46442.msg697257;topicseen
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Thanks onepostellenson. Very interesting. Traci has a great game and would be perfect to run this team. Kid hates to lose. I believe we already have offered, which is a good thing.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=46442.msg697257;topicseen
Some debate on that. Adam Zagoria said we did in an article but it never came out from any other sources before or since. If Wojo had made an offer, either someone in Carter's camp or our local media likely would have put that out on Twitter.
Regardless, I'd take Carter over any freshman point left in this class. I know Marcus LoVett has a little more name recognition, but that seems like a huge buyer beware situation. Carter looks like the type that could come in and play from day one.
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Scout.com had a top 5 PG available article a week or two ago. Carter was #2 behind Lovett. It was before the NN release so he's probably right up there. FWIW, Scout ranks Lovett #14, NN #15, and Carter #18 among PG. Carter is a 4-star player just outside the top 100.
Would love Carter and Anim. Then get a grad transfer or two while keeping an eye on the traditional transfer market.
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I would love to see us get Carter. Though with UConn, Pitt, NC State, Memphis, SMU, FSU, and Tennessee all involved, it will be a battle. The real worry for me is Louisville. They haven't offered, but Carter has visited there and his coach is UL legend Pervis Ellison. Love to see Wojo get a visit and commit, but it won't be easy.
With Ryan McMahon commiting last week, Louisville is currently overcommitted by 1. I suppose both Harrell and Rozier are talented enough to pro if they wanted to. If they did, Louisville will be in dire need of a PG for the future.
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Some debate on that. Adam Zagoria said we did in an article but it never came out from any other sources before or since. If Wojo had made an offer, either someone in Carter's camp or our local media likely would have put that out on Twitter.
Regardless, I'd take Carter over any freshman point left in this class. I know Marcus LoVett has a little more name recognition, but that seems like a huge buyer beware situation. Carter looks like the type that could come in and play from day one.
It would be very simple to tell Carter that he can start from day 1, add Amin and Carter and you could be finished with recruiting, and maybe a transfer shows up in April.
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It would be very simple to tell Carter that he can start from day 1, add Amin and Carter and you could be finished with recruiting, and maybe a transfer shows up in April.
Simple to say, but you don't want to give a guy the impression that starting or a major role is guaranteed. Seems Burton thought he'd be a major contributor and when his play didn't warrant it left instead of trying to earn time back. Hate to see that happen again.
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Simple to say, but you don't want to give a guy the impression that starting or a major role is guaranteed. Seems Burton thought he'd be a major contributor and when his play didn't warrant it left instead of trying to earn time back. Hate to see that happen again.
You don't want to promise him anything, but certainly make him aware of the fact that a) the roster as it exists today has no clear starter at point guard heading into 2015-16 and b) if he commits to MU, Wojo won't be recruiting another point guard for next season.
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You don't want to promise him anything, but certainly make him aware of the fact that a) the roster as it exists today has no clear starter at point guard heading into 2015-16 and b) if he commits to MU, Wojo won't be recruiting another point guard for next season.
I think that's a very reasonable approach. The 'promise' is that I won't recruit over you this spring, not that you'll get anything handed to you next year.
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Yeah, but if Nic Moore is suddenly available you can't recruit him without going back on your word. Recruiting is a fluid landscape. Never wise to make promises that could change with the blowing off the wind.
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Yeah, but if Nic Moore is suddenly available you can't recruit him without going back on your word. Recruiting is a fluid landscape. Never wise to make promises that could change with the blowing off the wind.
I'm willing to take the risk of missing out on Moore - a one-year player who's not even available at this point, much less likely transfer to Marquette - for a borderline top 100 high school kid like Carter.
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Simple to say, but you don't want to give a guy the impression that starting or a major role is guaranteed. Seems Burton thought he'd be a major contributor and when his play didn't warrant it left instead of trying to earn time back. Hate to see that happen again.
When you see veterans in front of you for an entire season, and then another half season - on court play not warranting 30+ minutes every f'in game - you decide to say f it - I'll take my talents elsewhere.
I applaud Deonte and Dawson for leaving versus sticking around and getting a butt pounding from Wojo.
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Baloney. When Novak was benched his junior year, he was not very happy. He vowed to work even harder to get back his starting position--and he did. I think departing is a kitten's way out of adversity. The fact that Burton left tells me his people weren't very tough (can't throw Deonte under the bus because he lost his mom). Same situation with Jeronne Maymon and Odartey Blankson. I am glad they left because I don't want those type of people around our program. Same can be said of Buzz.
When you see veterans in front of you for an entire season, and then another half season - on court play not warranting 30+ minutes every f'in game - you decide to say f it - I'll take my talents elsewhere.
I applaud Deonte and Dawson for leaving versus sticking around and getting a butt pounding from Wojo.
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So....I hear Sacar Anim has a campus visit tomorrow
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So....I hear Sacar Anim has a campus visit tomorrow
Wojo said he did 3 days straight of on-the-road recruiting. Outside of O'Field I am curious who else he was working on. Anyone have other names?
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Baloney. When Novak was benched his junior year, he was not very happy. He vowed to work even harder to get back his starting position--and he did. I think departing is a kitten's way out of adversity. The fact that Burton left tells me his people weren't very tough (can't throw Deonte under the bus because he lost his mom). Same situation with Jeronne Maymon and Odartey Blankson. I am glad they left because I don't want those type of people around our program. Same can be said of Buzz.
This would be a nice analogy on Novak, if it were apples to apples to what Burton experienced. Burton: 1) Never was a starter. 2) Even if Burton were benched from being a starter, he still did not go on to play 73.5% of all minutes available...as did Novak as a junior. 3)Burton was benched behind a guy, Juan Anderson, who as a junior was totally and completely inferior to Burton as a player in EVERY area other than perhaps on-ball defense and rebounding.
Last year's team struggled mightily on the offensive end. Playing Burton 30.5% of the minutes available was egregious on Buzz, and Wojo didn't do much better this year playing him 16 minutes per game while the team struggled to a 4-4 record.
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I think that's a very reasonable approach. The 'promise' is that I won't recruit over you this spring, not that you'll get anything handed to you next year.
Yup, That's the way to do it - and usually the way it is done. There's no way you can guarantee a high school player a starting spot next year but you let him know, it is his to lose - as you said, you won't recruit over him.
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Let's take a look at Burtons stats:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66167/deonte-burton (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66167/deonte-burton)
Minutes up, points down, rebounds down, assists down, blocks same, steals up, fouls slightly up, turnovers up, FG% roughly same, 3 FG% about same in very small sample size, FT% up nicely but small sample size as a soph.
So despite more averaging more minutes, Deonte's stats are mostly the same or worse. I give him a pass for him losing his mother but I don't have a problem with how much PT Wojo gave him. Deonte was worse this year than last year. No other way to spin it.
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Losing Burton hurt and still hurts. He's got an excellent future ahead of him. Wish he would have started and gotten more run immediately from Wojo and wish he was still here.
I'm fine with how Wojo operated with regard to Burton, but it was against my wishes.
Huge loss.
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How 'bout that Sacar Anim?!?!?!
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This would be a nice analogy on Novak, if it were apples to apples to what Burton experienced. Burton: 1) Never was a starter. 2) Even if Burton were benched from being a starter, he still did not go on to play 73.5% of all minutes available...as did Novak as a junior. 3)Burton was benched behind a guy, Juan Anderson, who as a junior was totally and completely inferior to Burton as a player in EVERY area other than perhaps on-ball defense and rebounding.
Aren't those two pretty big areas?
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Let's take a look at Burtons stats:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66167/deonte-burton (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66167/deonte-burton)
Minutes up, points down, rebounds down, assists down, blocks same, steals up, fouls slightly up, turnovers up, FG% roughly same, 3 FG% about same in very small sample size, FT% up nicely but small sample size as a soph.
So despite more averaging more minutes, Deonte's stats are mostly the same or worse. I give him a pass for him losing his mother but I don't have a problem with how much PT Wojo gave him. Deonte was worse this year than last year. No other way to spin it.
How about this spin? Even in these slightly regressed stats from freshman year, how does Deonte Burton stack up next to either of Derrick Wilson or Juan Anderson? The point that some can't seem to grasp is Burton could have been playing 30+ per game taking minutes from primarily Derrick and a few from Juan, and Burton is a FAR more talented resource on the roster than was Derrick or Juan.
You don't need to play a lineup with essentially 3, PGs simultaneously. Derrick was the least talented of Matt and Duane. Reduce his minutes. Think this team might have fared a little better?:
Carlino
Duane
Burton
Juan/Steve
Luke
And PS - I wouldn't draw the conclusion that 8 games of stats as a sophomore suggests Deonte was going to be a worse player as a sophomore than a freshman. But, if you want to say Deonte was worse this year - okay - but then at what point does some of that fall on Wojo?
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Let's take a look at Burtons stats:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66167/deonte-burton (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66167/deonte-burton)
Minutes up, points down, rebounds down, assists down, blocks same, steals up, fouls slightly up, turnovers up, FG% roughly same, 3 FG% about same in very small sample size, FT% up nicely but small sample size as a soph.
So despite more averaging more minutes, Deonte's stats are mostly the same or worse. I give him a pass for him losing his mother but I don't have a problem with how much PT Wojo gave him. Deonte was worse this year than last year. No other way to spin it.
Not only that, he was a turnover waiting to happen everytime he got the ball, put his head down way to often to tried to get to the hoop, and failed. A real black whole, game was out of control, it will be interesting to see how Hoiberg uses him at ISU. McKay did not want to play center at MU, at ISU playing center, at least Buzz new his talent and where he belonged, the handlers see probably small forward which he is not.
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Aren't those two pretty big areas?
Sure they are - but when you look at rebounding rate between the two - 18.1% to 10.9% in favor of Juan, that isn't enough of a benefit to offset ALL of the limitations Juan had offensively comparative to Deonte. Plus Juan turned the ball over at a 24.2% rate compared to Burton at 14.4%
On a team that struggled mightily with Derrick and Jake playing 30+ minutes, you needed a guy like Burton who had far more offensive talent than Juan. And for as bad of on-ball defender as Deonte was - he stole the ball at an incredibly high rate due to having great defensive instincts in passing lanes (along with his 7' wingspan), and also blocked shots at a high rate 4.1% (2nd best on the team next to Otules 6.4%)
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Aren't those two pretty big areas?
Please, he supposedly played HS basketball thus his HS reasoning.
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Not only that, he was a turnover waiting to happen everytime he got the ball, put his head down way to often to tried to get to the hoop, and failed. A real black whole hole, game was out of control, it will be interesting to see how Hoiberg uses him at ISU. McKay did not want to play center at MU, at ISU playing center, at least Buzz new knew his talent and where he belonged, the handlers see probably small forward which he is not.
FIFY. I know this is a message board. But sometimes it's hard to read some posts and not wonder if some posters really get out of MU, or high school for that matter.
How about this spin? Even in these slightly regressed stats from freshman year, how does Deonte Burton stack up next to either of Derrick Wilson or Juan Anderson? The point that some can't seem to grasp is Burton could have been playing 30+ per game taking minutes from primarily Derrick and a few from Juan, and Burton is a FAR more talented resource on the roster than was Derrick or Juan.
More talented? Absolutely. Work harder? Know what his defensive assignments are and actually be in the right place more than Derrick or Juan? Make Buzz's or Wojo's coaching staff think he gives MU the best chance of winning? I think the answers to each of those questions is different than "absolutely."
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Not only that, he was a turnover waiting to happen everytime he got the ball, put his head down way to often to tried to get to the hoop, and failed. A real black whole, game was out of control, it will be interesting to see how Hoiberg uses him at ISU. McKay did not want to play center at MU, at ISU playing center, at least Buzz new his talent and where he belonged, the handlers see probably small forward which he is not.
Yep, Hoiberg called him a rim protector before the season and Jameel is obviously playing down low. Kind of like Jeronne Maymon, whose dad said we don't do that (about playing center), who goes to TN and ends up (ta,ta), playing center.
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FIFY. I know this is a message board. But sometimes it's hard to read some posts and not wonder if some posters really get out of MU, or high school for that matter.
More talented? Absolutely. Work harder? Know what his defensive assignments are and actually be in the right place more than Derrick or Juan? Make Buzz's or Wojo's coaching staff think he gives MU the best chance of winning? I think the answers to each of those questions is different than "absolutely."
Getting thru school was hard, becoming a millionaire was easy. What would you take?
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We never got to see what Burton could do at SF. I think Luke's presence would've helped him a lot. But until Luke was eligible, Wojo had:
Steve Taylor 6-7 240 PF
Juan Anderson 6-6 215 SF/PF
Now Wojo's hand was forced to find a 3rd "post player" so Juan and Steve wouldn't have to each play 40 mpg. His limited options:
Sandy Cohen 6-6 180
JaJaun Johnson 6-5 200
Deonte Burton 6-4 230
None of those players are good options at the 4 but out of those guys I take the 6-4, 230 lb freak athlete. But Burton had a worse rebound rate than Matt Carlino. And Wojo couldn't play Burton, Anderson, and Taylor together for long stretches due to concerns over foul trouble and fatigue. If two of those three needed a rest, then Wojo would have to play even smaller. So I'm not sure how else Wojo should've handled Burton. Oh, I forgot, it's Derrick's fault.
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Burton had the talent to be the star, did not step up at all. He had other issues to deal with. Giving Burton a year off to refine his game, will be the best for him. Hoiberg is really a good coach, so the system might fit him perfectly as they try and spread the court. Wish him the best.
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How 'bout that Sacar Anim?!?!?!
Hope the dude digs cold weather, hey?
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How about this spin? Even in these slightly regressed stats from freshman year, how does Deonte Burton stack up next to either of Derrick Wilson or Juan Anderson? The point that some can't seem to grasp is Burton could have been playing 30+ per game taking minutes from primarily Derrick and a few from Juan, and Burton is a FAR more talented resource on the roster than was Derrick or Juan.
You don't need to play a lineup with essentially 3, PGs simultaneously. Derrick was the least talented of Matt and Duane. Reduce his minutes. Think this team might have fared a little better?:
Carlino
Duane
Burton
Juan/Steve
Luke
And PS - I wouldn't draw the conclusion that 8 games of stats as a sophomore suggests Deonte was going to be a worse player as a sophomore than a freshman. But, if you want to say Deonte was worse this year - okay - but then at what point does some of that fall on Wojo?
Do I think this lineup would have fared better? Of course. Though I think Duane would be running the point.
However, the biggest problem here is Burton left before Luke entered the picture. This lineup was never possible. And I think this is what most of us here were hoping to see happen, knowing that this would return Burton to his natural 3 position and really free him up to play within himself.
Comparing this lineup here to the current one, or the one Burton was playing with, is apples to oranges.
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Hope the dude digs cold weather, hey?
Pffft. It's 3 in Milwaukee. -8 in Minneapolis.
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Guys. Threads only derail when you take the bait that Ners leaves by replying to his crap. It's not that hard to not let the same arguments spill into every damn thread.
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Guys. Threads only derail when you take the bait that Ners leaves by replying to his crap. It's not that hard to not let the same arguments spill into every damn thread.
Great point. Since today is Ash Wednesday, I am going to give up Ners for lent starting now.
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Deonte will be good. Difficult year for him, of course, with his mother's death. His issue was defense and looking through the big end of a funnel with the small end only seeing the hoop when he had the ball. The adjustment to being more of a team player and understanding how to fit in and see the court was not something he was adjusting to very well.
Given his situation with his mom, and his trouble adjusting, I understand the transfer. He may do fine somewhere else, and can be an offensive force. However, he has to learn how to be part of the team on both sides of the ball no matter where he plays. The year off will help him, a lot, I suspect.
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Sorry, on my previous post, I see that this is the Sacar Anim thread. Off topic.
Since he is from MN, the cold weather shouldn't be an issue, but it will probably result in a downgraded experience, somewhat. Let's hope Wojo can get this done and that he doesn't want to wait until April or later. Wojo has proven to be able to land guys that he focuses on better than then Buzz and Crean, who seemed to have to get guys by default and a lot of plan B and C guys.
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So to break things down that don't involve Ners' High School basketball career, Wojo is attempting to recruit the following:
- Sacar Anim, SG/SF (visits this weekend!) ONLY ONE WITH AN OFFER...and hopefully a commit over the weekend.
- Traci Carter, PG (allegedly Wojo visited him last weekend and, if we're lucky, well send a "I have been thinking about you alot since last weekend. A whole lot. How are you doing?" tweet)
- Maurice O'Field, SF [JUCO]
- Ty Outlaw, SG/SF [JUCO]
Please feel free to add to this list and get this ship righted and about recruits.
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Guys. Threads only derail when you take the bait that Ners leaves by replying to his crap. It's not that hard to not let the same arguments spill into every damn thread.
Perhaps you'll note below who brought Deonte into this thread...and of course spinning the whole "earning time" narrative. Just found it ironic that in Deonte's case his PLAY didn't warrant playing time, whereas that statement is NEVER made by the same poster and roughly 10 others here who constantly take up for the one guy on the team who's play virtually never warrants 30+ minutes.
Simple to say, but you don't want to give a guy the impression that starting or a major role is guaranteed. Seems Burton thought he'd be a major contributor and when his play didn't warrant it left instead of trying to earn time back. Hate to see that happen again.
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Losing Burton hurt and still hurts. He's got an excellent future ahead of him. Wish he would have started and gotten more run immediately from Wojo and wish he was still here.
I'm fine with how Wojo operated with regard to Burton, but it was against my wishes.
Huge loss.
JayBee - Your take on Anim? What's the scoop on why Gophers aren't recruiting him? Is he a better prospect than Dawson was?
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So to break things down that don't involve Ners' High School basketball career, Wojo is attempting to recruit the following:
- Sacar Anim, SG/SF (visits this weekend!) ONLY ONE WITH AN OFFER...and hopefully a commit over the weekend.
- Traci Carter, PG (allegedly Wojo visited him last weekend and, if we're lucky, well send a "I have been thinking about you alot since last weekend. A whole lot. How are you doing?" tweet)
- Maurice O'Field, SF [JUCO]
- Ty Outlaw, SG/SF [JUCO]
Please feel free to add to this list and get this ship righted and about recruits.
Ricky Council, SG, Moravian Prep (NC)
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Is he a better prospect than Dawson was?
Impossible.
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Back on topic. Sacar Anim seems like a classic late bloomer. Young for his grade level so he might be finally catching up physically. I think that has a lot to do with late bloomers. Plays for a top team in Minnesota, averaging 25 ppg compared to something like 15 ppg for Gopher recruit Jarvis Johnson. Reid Travis (Stanford) was on the team last year so Anim was probably third in the pecking order and that caused him to fly even further under the radar.
Since Anim has an offer and Wojo doesn't have many out there right now despite 4 open scholarships, I got to believe Anim is the priority for wing recruits. But it's possible Wojo reads scoop and likes the cool name polls so much that he wants to add more cool names to MU. Haanif Cheatham is a nice start but overall the squad lacks quality cool name depth.
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Impossible.
LOL - Well played. Nonetheless, always curious to get JayBee's takes as he's usually pretty predictive and out front/early on his prognostications - and as I recall felt Dawson could run things and be a good player...
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To JakeBarnes--- Jaylen Brown, Diamond Stone, Malik Newman, Tyler Dorsey, Brandon Ingram, Ivan Rabb, K. J. Walton, Shawntrez Davis and Stephen Zimmerman. Pretty Good List Additions.
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Dreamin'
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But it's possible Wojo reads scoop and likes the cool name polls so much that he wants to add more cool names to MU. Haanif Cheatham is a nice start but overall the squad lacks quality cool name depth.
+1. Wojo has already run off 2 boring names (Dawson and Burton). Two others are graduating (Wilson and Anderson). Maybe the other Wilson, Taylor and Johnson will transfer in the off season. We're absolutely short on cool names.
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JayBee - Your take on Anim? What's the scoop on why Gophers aren't recruiting him? Is he a better prospect than Dawson was?
He is a far better prospect than Dawson lol. He wasn't really much of a prospect.
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Actually Anim visits today and tomorrow not this weekend.
So to break things down that don't involve Ners' High School basketball career, Wojo is attempting to recruit the following:
- Sacar Anim, SG/SF (visits this weekend!) ONLY ONE WITH AN OFFER...and hopefully a commit over the weekend.
- Traci Carter, PG (allegedly Wojo visited him last weekend and, if we're lucky, well send a "I have been thinking about you alot since last weekend. A whole lot. How are you doing?" tweet)
- Maurice O'Field, SF [JUCO]
- Ty Outlaw, SG/SF [JUCO]
Please feel free to add to this list and get this ship righted and about recruits.
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Back on topic. Sacar Anim seems like a classic late bloomer. Young for his grade level so he might be finally catching up physically. I think that has a lot to do with late bloomers. Plays for a top team in Minnesota, averaging 25 ppg compared to something like 15 ppg for Gopher recruit Jarvis Johnson. Reid Travis (Stanford) was on the team last year so Anim was probably third in the pecking order and that caused him to fly even further under the radar.
Since Anim has an offer and Wojo doesn't have many out there right now despite 4 open scholarships, I got to believe Anim is the priority for wing recruits. But it's possible Wojo reads scoop and likes the cool name polls so much that he wants to add more cool names to MU. Haanif Cheatham is a nice start but overall the squad lacks quality cool name depth.
Thanks for the info, headband. He seems to really be getting better. His size and game reminds me of Paul Pierce during his Kansas days. Before anyone destroys me for the comparison, I'm not saying he is as good. I'm saying, on the clips I've watched, his physique, athleticism, ability to drive to the hoop and take the hit, and sink free throws reminds me of Pierce's college game.
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Thanks for the info, headband. He seems to really be getting better. His size and game reminds me of Paul Pierce during his Kansas days. Before anyone destroys me for the comparison, I'm not saying he is as good. I'm saying, on the clips I've watched, his physique, athleticism, ability to drive to the hoop and take the hit, and sink free throws reminds me of Pierce's college game.
I also think take away the recruit rankings he's very, very similar to vander with maybe more upside on his outside shot
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LOL - Well played. Nonetheless, always curious to get JayBee's takes as he's usually pretty predictive and out front/early on his prognostications - and as I recall felt Dawson could run things and be a good player...
That JayBee cat musta' been throwin' it down on fools in HS gyms across the Minny ai-na'?
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Evan Daniels @EvanDaniels 1m1 minute ago
Sacar Anim (http://foxs.pt/1A6Jq4n ) is currently visiting Marquette, per a source. He picked up a scholarship offer Northwestern today.
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Evan Daniels @EvanDaniels 1m1 minute ago
Sacar Anim (http://foxs.pt/1A6Jq4n ) is currently visiting Marquette, per a source. He picked up a scholarship offer Northwestern today.
How dare Chris Collins offer after his other Dukie Wojo offered. 3 round cage match between Wojo and Collins for his services. I'll bet on Wojo!
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Paul Pierce and a better shooting Vander in a blender? Hope he stays more than one year.
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Jerry Meyer @jerrymeyer247 46m46 minutes ago
Northwestern offers hot 2015 wing prospect per @WisBBYearbook http://bit.ly/1Am04fr
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I'll bet on Wojo!
Ners--I don't think that you would bet on Wojo to win anything.
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Does a Northwestern offer trump an MU offer these days?
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Does a Northwestern offer trump an MU offer these days?
Lol...
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Does a Northwestern offer trump an MU offer these days?
I guess we'll find out...
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Northwestern offers him right in the middle of his official to MU?
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4667239/takei-dbag-o.gif (http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4667239/takei-dbag-o.gif)
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Does a Northwestern offer trump an MU offer these days?
I guess it depends on how much you value making the tourney.
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Does a Northwestern offer trump an MU offer these days?
Playin' time trumps all, ai na?
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Northwestern offers him right in the middle of his official to MU?
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4667239/takei-dbag-o.gif (http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4667239/takei-dbag-o.gif)
If I were Wojo, I'd have some words for my old buddy.
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Northwestern offers him right in the middle of his official to MU?
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4667239/takei-dbag-o.gif (http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4667239/takei-dbag-o.gif)
News came out today but I believe they actually offered yesterday before he headed to Milwaukee.
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News came out today but I believe they actually offered yesterday before he headed to Milwaukee.
Would make sense. Northwestern was at Anim game last night.
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If I were Wojo, I'd have some words for my old buddy.
Really? Why would that be? It's recruitin', man. Respect the process, hey?
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Alternate Scene:
"Chris, you want to go ahead and offer for me? He'd like to have another HM offer before committing to MU. If he had it this week then he'd feel better about calling it a #donedeal for us. Thanks, pal! - Wojo"
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Good thing Wojo didn't stop himself from recruiting Ellenson because K was, ai na?
Oh wait, K was just pitching Wojo to Hank.
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NVM
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Looks like the Bucks are hosting an open practice at the Al tomorrow at noon. Will Sacar still be here on his visit?
http://www.nba.com/bucks/release/bucks-host-open-practice-marquette-campus-thursday-feb-19
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Looks like the Bucks are hosting an open practice at the Al tomorrow at noon. Will Sacar still be here on his visit?
http://www.nba.com/bucks/release/bucks-host-open-practice-marquette-campus-thursday-feb-19
Indeed he will.
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Hopefully, Jabari can get some alone time with Sacar and tell him all about the greatness of ole Wojo.
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Hopefully, Jabari can get some alone time with Sacar and tell him all about the greatness of ole Wojo.
Jabari is in Durham tonight ... back tomorrow?
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How dare Chris Collins offer after his other Dukie Wojo offered. 3 round cage match between Wojo and Collins for his services. I'll bet on Wojo!
Damn! I was hoping that Sacar was a player. I guess that he's just a scrappy kid who can't shoot who reminds Wojo of himself. Look for four more years on 4 on 5.
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Does a Northwestern offer trump an MU offer these days?
As a university or basketball program?
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As a university or basketball program?
Combo of academics, conference, and current group of talent. Was surprised to see Northwestern with top 100 kids also. Weird times.
I personally would want to play hoops @ MU. But who knows about a 17 year old from Minn, maybe he wants to get back at Minnesota for not offering? Would get ample opportunities in Big Ten.
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As a university or basketball program?
There's no comparison on the academic side...and unfortunately, the basketball side is closer than usual.
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There's no comparison on the academic side...and unfortunately, the basketball side is closer than usual.
For the moment. A bit of foresight will help clear that up.
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#donedeal
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#donedeal
Source? You around?
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Diener and Cheatham just started following him on Twitter, unless Cheatham is taking over NN role as head student recruiter I don't see players just following every recruit their school might be in talks with. I'm saying its in the bag!!
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Diener and Cheatham just started following him on Twitter, unless Cheatham is taking over NN role as head student recruiter I don't see players just following every recruit their school might be in talks with. I'm saying its in the bag!!
Wonder if they're Facebook friends too....
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That'd be too obvious
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That'd be too obvious
:)
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#donedeal
I won't get Sacared in to believing this yet.
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Well Sacar is now following Coach Nelson, what else do we need to see!! A Twitter follow is what a handshake and "you got my word" exchange used to be.
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Well Sacar is now following Coach Nelson, what else do we need to see!! A Twitter follow is what a handshake and "you got my word" exchange used to be.
lol you don't say. you're telling me these guys are the only D1 coaches and athletes he follows on twitter?
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Well Sacar is now following Coach Nelson, what else do we need to see!! A Twitter follow is what a handshake and "you got my word" exchange used to be.
Does this mean I'm going to Marquette to play basketball after following Wojo?
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Well Sacar is now following Coach Nelson, what else do we need to see!! A Twitter follow is what a handshake and "you got my word" exchange used to be.
Personally, I like the updates as I'm not on Twitter...so thank you!
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Does this mean I'm going to Marquette to play basketball after following Wojo?
Based on the analogy, I think it would imply that Wojo is going to play basketball for you.
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lol you don't say. you're telling me these guys are the only D1 coaches and athletes he follows on twitter?
A quick look shows that he doesn't seem to be following any other coaches on twitter, and that most of his player follows are kids from the Twin Cities.
I don't know if it really means anything though.
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A quick look shows that he doesn't seem to be following any other coaches on twitter, and that most of his player follows are kids from the Twin Cities.
I don't know if it really means anything though.
I guess it can't hurt. I think the Haanif part is probably the more promising follow there. Hope he is having a great visit!
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Just saw Wojo at the bucks open practice, talking with all of the players and coaches. He came down towards the end, maybe be had just sealed the deal.
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Just saw Wojo at the bucks open practice, talking with all of the players and coaches. He came down towards the end, maybe be had just sealed the deal.
I haven't seen Ron Paul yet.
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Just saw Wojo at the bucks open practice, talking with all of the players and coaches. He came down towards the end, maybe be had just sealed the deal.
Who is that wearing the Tar Heels shirt?
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I haven't seen Ron Paul yet.
+1 Nothing happens in scoop without this
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Who is that wearing the Tar Heels shirt?
Kendall Marshall I believe
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So does wojo have it in the Sac...ar we gonna have to wait longer to hear about a commitment?
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Kids not even top 150. This guy was offered by nobody special
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Neither was Tony Smith,Dwyane Wade,Hersey Hawkins and Steph Curry.Means nothing.
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Kids not even top 150. This guy was offered by nobody special
Oh, well then nevermind then. Everyone move along. Nothing to be excited about.
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Kids not even top 150. This guy was offered by nobody special
Can't believe Wojo is even allowing the kid to sully The Al with his presence.
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New development: he and Phelps are following each other now.
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New development: he and Phelps are following each other now.
Is tracking Twitter followers the new tracking plane tail numbers?
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Is tracking Twitter followers the new tracking plane tail numbers?
No idea. Just saw everyone else making a big deal about it and felt I'd contribute. Beats the hell outta talking about the current state of affairs of the team.
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No idea. Just saw everyone else making a big deal about it and felt I'd contribute. Beats the hell outta talking about the current state of affairs of the team.
Ha! I'll add to it. He also followed Justin Gainey and Jake Presutti
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This did all kind of start as a joke but I think we might be onto something here!!
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There's a lot of momentum and good vibes coming from the team out of both our Sacar and O'Field chances, for what it's worth.
I was told Sacar seemed to really enjoy his visit and he connected well with the guys on the team. One of the things I liked best about Nick was how big of an MUBB ambassador he was before ever stepping on the floor. While we have all been discussing his recent Twitter antics, for a long while he was talking MU up at any and all times. That kind of stuff doesn't go unnoticed, and I'm sure his enthusiasm and recruiting certainly helped guys like Henry and Haanif. So to see Haanif pick up where he left off and "follow/get followed by" a guy like Sacar, while goofy to speculate on, certainly is a great sign IMO.
I know I brought it up with Traci Carter, and it's an imperfect measure, but if a guy goes out and follows the entire coaching staff, video coordinators, and fellow recruits, that's important to me. Certainly these guys follow tons of people but it just adds to momentum I'm told we have.
Ideally, we get commitments from:
-Sacar Anim
-Maurice O'Field
-PG (Traci Carter or a JUCO PG)
-Hold on to a scholarship for a Grad Transfer
While O'Field looks to be a phenomenal athlete, and a guy who can step in and play the 3 right away, it doesn't look like he's the greatest shooter so maybe we find someone who can stretch the floor as well. I think we're in a great spot right now.
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Sacar is exactly the type of player you look for in the spring signing period. Late bloomers who have been raising some eyebrows. Davante Gardner and Todd Mayo were both spring signings - the former turned out great, and the latter would have been just fine if he had his head screwed on straight.
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Pretty sure Todd was a fall signing. Add Jae Crowder to the spring signing list. And DJ Newbill but that turned out to be a catch and release.
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Pretty sure Todd was a fall signing. Add Jae Crowder to the spring signing list. And DJ Newbill but that turned out to be a catch and release.
Todd was a Spring signing.
http://marquette.scout.com/story/1064022-todd-mayo-signs-with-marquette
Good point about Jae too, but many Jucos are spring signings.
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I stand corrected.
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Kids not even top 150. This guy was offered by nobody special
Gardner was considered a dumpy prep player who'd never have the discipline to lose any lbs as to impact a college game. Good thing Buzz listened to those scouting reports! And he had to battle the behemoth that is South Florida to get the cookie monster. Gaaa.....legend......get back to homeroom and the Diamond Stone snapchatting!
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11 points for Sacar in a loss to Iowa City West
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He's in!
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Pretty sure Todd was a fall signing. Add Jae Crowder to the spring signing list. And DJ Newbill but that turned out to be a catch and release.
It was more like "if you like your scholarship you can keep it" whopper
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Neither was Tony Smith,Dwyane Wade,Hersey Hawkins and Steph Curry.Means nothing.
Hersey Hawkins is the man.
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It was more like "if you like your scholarship you can keep it" whopper
...or more like "you are required to do X" and he didn't do it.
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He's in!
Do you care to share something with the class?
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...or more like "you are required to do X" and he didn't do it.
Uhm...no. Not how it went down
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He's in!
Done deal?
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...or more like "you are required to do X" and he didn't do it.
Jay Bee 43 - Chico 0. Someday he'll win one.
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Can some one speak English?
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Done deal?
Source?
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Source?
I don't need no stinkin' sources!
(Guess I shoulda used teal.)
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Good sign?
https://twitter.com/sacar_anim15/status/569675418267095040
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Good sign?
https://twitter.com/sacar_anim15/status/569675418267095040
I would think definitely.
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Good sign?
https://twitter.com/sacar_anim15/status/569675418267095040
How do I sign up for this 17 year old's twitter account so I can be a creepy 40+ guy and influence his decision? ;)
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How do I sign up for this 17 year old's twitter account so I can be a creepy 40+ guy and influence his decision? ;)
You can get a Twitter account and follow a guy who already made his decision, genius.
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You can get a Twitter account and follow a guy who already made his decision, genius.
I have one of those, but I just don't follow 17 year olds....how do I do that? Is there a form or something?
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He visits Marquette and then four days later makes his college decision. I'm think we will get some good news tomorrow at 3:30. Who's our biggest competition? Northern Iowa? Northwestern?
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How do I sign up for this 17 year old's twitter account so I can be a creepy 40+ guy and influence his decision? ;)
I've heard the key is to use the line, "I have been thinking about you alot (sic) since last weekend. A whole lot."
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I've heard the key is to use the line, "I have been thinking about you alot (sic) since last weekend. A whole lot."
Boom...roasted
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I have one of those, but I just don't follow 17 year olds....how do I do that? Is there a form or something?
you don't follow 17 year olds? You are a god damn American hero.
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Digitally stalking minors....no thanks
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I've heard the key is to use the line, "I have been thinking about you alot (sic) since last weekend. A whole lot."
HAHA!
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Ya, why would would you want the latest public information about MU recruits?
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How do I sign up for this 17 year old's twitter account so I can be a creepy 40+ guy and influence his decision? ;)
Troll score: 3/10.
Insufferability score: 10/10.
Amin's initial tweet has been retweeted by Evan Daniels, Reggie Rankin, and Adam Zagoria, among many other recruiting analysts. That's where I saw it.
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Only 3 more 'ships to fill. The suspense is unbearable. Can WoJo do it, hey?
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Assuming this means what we all think it means ... what I really like about this is that it's another example of Wojo going all out after a recruit and landing him. Speaks well for his ability to close the deal.
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Following recruits to ascertain what school they might favor - not creepy.
Writing to a high school kid that "I've been been thinking about you a lot since last weekend. A whole lot" - nearly go to jail creepy.
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Following recruits to ascertain what school they might favor - not creepy.
Of course it isn't creepy. Twitter is a public statement. It would be no more "creepy" than watching him declare on ESPN or something.
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Of course it isn't creepy. Twitter is a public statement. It would be no more "creepy" than watching him declare on ESPN or something.
Right - Following a player on twitter seems akin to attending their game(s): present yet viewing from afar. I think the creepy and just pathetic comes in when a fan/booster contacts a recruit in order to sway their decision. I recall, last year, both MU and Missouri fans contacting Ahmad Hill over twitter. Weak, desperate, obnoxious...
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Only the people who would actually do something creepy to a 17 year old on Twitter would sit here on a message board crying to anyone who will listen that it's creepy to read a Tweet.
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Ya, why would would you want the latest public information about MU recruits?
I have no problem about that.....let a reporter announce it and I'm all for it. Finding out his love for his girlfriend, how he's gelling but not swelling, etc, etc....no thanks. Are we following 17 year old female potential recruits?
This is where Pakuni and I differ. If he commits to MU, it will be announced...by the media. We will all find out just the same. I don't need to know everything else about a 17 year old and what he tweets daily.
Pakuni....put me on ignore....I've had Brand and Lenny on for some now and it's wonderful. I'd invite you to do the same. Seriously.
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...who is 17?... who is... a minor? what is... "a minor"??
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How do I sign up for this 17 year old's twitter account so I can be a creepy 40+ guy and influence his decision? ;)
Can't you hire an intern?
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I hear he already committed on his visit. Good get for Wojo! Now go focus on getting us a PG
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Ty Jones of Howard Pulley AAU. Sacar Anim of Howard Pulley. Hmmm...
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Refusing to count chickens. It seems that whenever there is an 'announcement' with the kid it usually (not always) leaves the MU community disappointed.
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I hear he already committed on his visit. Good get for Wojo! Now go focus on getting us a PG
Would be a great addition!
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Did Anim ever go on an official visit to Northwestern?
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Can't believe Wojo is even allowing the kid to sully The Al with his presence.
lol
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Did Anim ever go on an official visit to Northwestern?
No.
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Refusing to count chickens. It seems that whenever there is an 'announcement' with the kid it usually (not always) leaves the MU community disappointed.
I can't remember the last time we were reasonably sure that a prospect was going to pick MU ended up going elsewhere.
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I can't remember the last time we were reasonably sure that a prospect was going to pick MU ended up going elsewhere.
I had the same reaction.
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Fair enough. I hope he comes. A good kick-off to round 2 of recruiting. My impression is that he is similar to Joe Chapman. And that isn't a bad thing.
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Anim just visited MU last week. Is announcing today just a few days after visiting. Onepostellenson, who has a friend that's a team manager, says Sacar hit it off with current team members. Plus Sacar started following the entire MU staff on Twitter, right down to the freaking video coordinator.
Given all that, I'm pretty confident.
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If Sacar commits this afternoon (fingers crossed), where do we stand with open scholarships? Two?
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If Sacar commits this afternoon (fingers crossed), where do we stand with open scholarships? Two?
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Will this be streamed?
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I can't remember the last time we were reasonably sure that a prospect was going to pick MU ended up going elsewhere.
A coaching prospect: Shaka!
But that's OK, because we cooled on him anyway.
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A coaching prospect: Shaka!
But that's OK, because we cooled on him anyway.
We got the right guy.
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Guys....this is awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EcjxtQXHsQ
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Something interesting to think about is that Wojo has gotten every recruit he has gone after hard and had visit. (Besides Levin) He is one of the best recruiters out there and I don't think thats debatable.
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Something interesting to think about is that Wojo has gotten every recruit he has gone after hard and had visit. (Besides Levin) He is one of the best recruiters out there and I don't think thats debatable.
A bit early for that, but his closing rate is impressive.
Now, if he can pry Traci Carter away from UConn...
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Something interesting to think about is that Wojo has gotten every recruit he has gone after hard and had visit. (Besides Levin) He is one of the best recruiters out there and I don't think thats debatable.
Slight disagreement here: He did go after NN hard, and lost him. Of course there are other factors here, also, none of which are fully known. And didn't he try to get the guy from out east that was Buzz's number 1 recruit--forget his name?
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Slight disagreement here: He did go after NN hard, and lost him. Of course there are other factors here, also, none of which are fully known.
I think this was more MU pulling away, and I'm not a big homer. Wisconsin isn't even recruiting him, that should say something. A PG that can shoot from Sun Prairie and they don't call? He'll probably end up at Iowa St.
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Something interesting to think about is that Wojo has gotten every recruit he has gone after hard and had visit. (Besides Levin) He is one of the best recruiters out there and I don't think thats debatable.
Well he didn't get Akoy Agau who made an official visit. I still think while the initial results are positive, he has to string together good classes. We will see if he can do that.
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Slight disagreement here: He did go after NN hard, and lost him. Of course there are other factors here, also, none of which are fully known. And didn't he try to get the guy from out east that was Buzz's number 1 recruit--forget his name?
I actually think Wojo wanted Shayok (now at UVA) a lot more than he did Hill (Bert's #1 recruit). But he didn't get either.
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Looking forward to the official news this afternoon.
Hopefully we'll have 1 down, 3 to go.
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Amin might be a nice addition, but not sure how much he will help the immediate problems they are going to have. The next 2 recruits are huge for next year.
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Something interesting to think about is that Wojo has gotten every recruit he has gone after hard and had visit. (Besides Levin) He is one of the best recruiters out there and I don't think thats debatable.
He's been effective in landing recruits, I agree, but as Sultan mentioned, he missed out on Agau. Levin and Noskowiak aren't really worth mentioning because he got both of them, they just didn't work out. We'll see if that's for the better or not.
That said, way too early to say he's one of the best recruiters out there. Buzz landed a great class with three top-100 players as a rookie HC, seems like a new coach often brings a lot of energy that can translate to recruiting wins. The question is if they can maintain that. Will Wojo back up 2015 with strong years in 2016 and 2017? Will we see another McDonald's All American in Wojo's first 5 years or will be we waiting another 30 or so years like we did between Trotter and Ellenson?
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Guys....this is awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EcjxtQXHsQ
Well at least someone posting on YouTube seems to think he's coming here.
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That said, way too early to say he's one of the best recruiters out there. Buzz landed a great class with three top-100 players as a rookie HC, seems like a new coach often brings a lot of energy that can translate to recruiting wins. The question is if they can maintain that. Will Wojo back up 2015 with strong years in 2016 and 2017? Will we see another McDonald's All American in Wojo's first 5 years or will be we waiting another 30 or so years like we did between Trotter and Ellenson?
Agree with this. I am optimistic that Wojo has the ability to attract great players to MU, but there's no way to know for sure when the guy has been on the job for less than a year.
A great 2015 class - reason for optimism.
Another great class in 2016 - start anticipating future trips to the Dance.
Another great class in 2017 - save $$$ for Final Four trip.
Another great class in 2018 - pray that K coaches until he's 100.
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Well he didn't get Akoy Agau who made an official visit. I still think while the initial results are positive, he has to string together good classes. We will see if he can do that.
Agree with the stringing together of two classes. We should know much, much more about Wojo by the end of next season. His first class is good (but has dropped to 12 with the loss of NN). Adding Anim should help. But we need a good class next year also, to start really getting back to prominence.
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For those who recall the Reid Travis announcement at De... remember that?
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For those who recall the Reid Travis announcement at De... remember that?
Don't really follow Minnesota hoops, what's the story behind that? Was Stanford a surprise?
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Looking forward to the official news this afternoon.
Hopefully we'll have 1 down, 3 to go.
edit: ah crap, forgot about NN.
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Huh? Did I miss someone else transferring out? We've got 3 available for next year, so getting Sacar would leave 2.
That's what I thought... I just took the word of other scoopers as fact!
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That's what I thought... I just took the word of other scoopers as fact!
Nope, I was wrong (and should really update the scholarship table). Nick being released leaves us 4. We had 1 available, Burton and Dawson left, Nick was released from his NLI.
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Don't really follow Minnesota hoops, what's the story behind that? Was Stanford a surprise?
To some. Not me.
This isn't a similar case though... Whew!
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To some. Not me.
This isn't a similar case though... Whew!
I don't know what we'd do without ya here, Beej.
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Well, it's past 3:30 pm, ai na?
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#DoneDeal
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/23/marquette-lands-commitment-from-three-star-class-of-2015-guard-sacar-anim/
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BOOM
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#DoneDeal
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/23/marquette-lands-commitment-from-three-star-class-of-2015-guard-sacar-anim/
Welcome Sacar
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https://vine.co/v/OpOVnOMQ3Ke
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Welcome, Sacar!
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Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
Look for Marquette to continue recruiting players from DeLaSalle, including sophomore Goanar Mar (6-6) and frosh Gabe Kalscheur (6-3).
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Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 6m6 minutes ago
Really like the get 4 Marquette in Sacar Anim. High end scorer with good feel for the game. Should be a fun, versatile backcourt w/Cheatham
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook 7m7 minutes ago
Sacar Anim is one of the top candidates for Mr. Basketball in Minnesota. The athletic and skilled 6-3 wing player in averaging 24.0 ppg.
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Great get. He was impressing many as of late.
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Awesome. Let's get a grad transfer or JUCO PG that can start from day 1 and I'm happy with where we're at.
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I'm still amazed that Pitino and Minnesota didn't even offer. The kid has a ton of potential.
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Matt Jessen-Howard @mjessenhoward 2m2 minutes ago
Marquette is getting a long, athletic slashing wing that's a great on-ball defender in @Sacar_Anim15. Nice addition for #mubb.
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Any explanation? Do we have any clue why not?
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Any explanation? Do we have any clue why not?
I don't know how many spots they have left, but the Gophers already signed 4 players for this year, including 2 PGs and a SG.
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I'm still amazed that Pitino and Minnesota didn't even offer. The kid has a ton of potential.
Any explanation? Do we have any clue why not?
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Welcome Sacar. I work about 200 yards from DeLasalle. Gonna have to catch one of his games down the stretch.
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Matt Jessen-Howard @mjessenhoward 2m2 minutes ago
Marquette is getting a long, athletic slashing wing that's a great on-ball defender in @Sacar_Anim15. Nice addition for #mubb.
Is 6'3" really considered "long"? I thought that was fairly average in today's game.
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Welcome Sacar. I work about 200 yards from DeLasalle. Gonna have to catch one of his games down the stretch.
It seems that DeLasalle produces some top talent. Can you tell us a about the high school.
For an Off topic Question: I see that the school is located very close to the Mississippi... does it flood?
I see the Milwaukee Journal has already posted a nice little article:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/marquette-gets-commitment-from-minneapolis-prep-star-sacar-anim-b99450257z1-293734131.html
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Is 6'3" really considered "long"? I thought that was fairly average in today's game.
He is listed at 6'5" with a 6'8" reach from what I read. Take those number for what they are, just an indication of height and length.
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Is 6'3" really considered "long"? I thought that was fairly average in today's game.
Length usually refers to wingspan. So 6-3 player with a 6-8 wing span is long but a 6-3 player with a 6-3 wingspan isn't long.
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So I've seen him listed at 6'3", 6'4" and 6'5" so far.... ;)
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Just to make it official
(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
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http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/23/marquette-lands-commitment-from-three-star-class-of-2015-guard-sacar-anim/
I had faith the media would report this....they didn't let me down.
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It seems that DeLasalle produces some top talent. Can you tell us a about the high school.
For an Off topic Question: I see that the school is located very close to the Mississippi... does it flood?
I see the Milwaukee Journal has already posted a nice little article:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/marquette-gets-commitment-from-minneapolis-prep-star-sacar-anim-b99450257z1-293734131.html
I grew up in the Twin Cities, but played and followed hockey until I went to MU and never really knew much about DeLaSalle as they are one of the few schools in the area that doesn't have a HS hockey program. I don't watch much HS basketball in MN, so JB may be able to give you more in-depth info on the school, but they're generally a basketball powerhouse in AAA (smaller schools). They've won the state tourney three years in a row, but their division doesn't include the large public schools. It does produce some top talent - Reid Travis a top 50 recruit who went to Stanford was a senior there last year. Also Jarvis Johnson, a MN recruit, is a current teammate of Sacar.
The school is literally on on island in the Mississippi...hence their mascot being the Islanders. However Hennepin Avenue (essentially the main city street in downtown Mpls, think Wisconsin Avenue) dissects the island, and is the entry road to the school. You probably wouldn't know you were on an island unless someone told you.
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Welcome Sacar!
Aaron Edwards @AWALL612 33m33 minutes ago
S/O to Sacar Amin On His Commitment to Marquette University, definitely a bright future in The #BigEast future Stud pic.twitter.com/E5ZzU8BrgK
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The school is literally on on island in the Mississippi...hence their mascot being the Islanders. However Hennepin Avenue (essentially the main city street in downtown Mpls, think Wisconsin Avenue) dissects the island, and is the entry road to the school. You probably wouldn't know you were on an island unless someone told you.
I live in Rochester and have crossed Nicollet Island many times - even stayed at the Nicollet Island Inn once for a work retreat - but I never had a clue DeLaSalle was on the island. I drove right past it just last weekend. Sacar probably decided to commit when he sensed MU fans in the vicinity.
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So how tall is he? I read 6'5".
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I live in Rochester and have crossed Nicollet Island many times - even stayed at the Nicollet Island Inn once for a work retreat - but I never had a clue DeLaSalle was on the island. I drove right past it just last weekend. Sacar probably decided to commit when he sensed MU fans in the vicinity.
You could have thrown a rock on top of the school from the Nicollet Island Inn if you don't throw like a girl.
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You could have thrown a rock on top of the school from the Nicollet Island Inn if you don't throw like a girl.
Kinda dangerous though, especially since I was driving. And I'm a lefty, so I might've had to twist kind of funny.
Still, it'll conjure up a funny image next time I cross over....
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http://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/ (http://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/)
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Who is better, Anim or Nick at this stage? It looks like Anim has a higher upside? Any thoughts?
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Who is better, Anim or Nick at this stage? It looks like Anim has a higher upside? Any thoughts?
In my opinion based on limited exposure to either, Nick is more talented but Anim has his head on much straighter and is a hard worker.
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Is there a pronouciation guide for his name anywhere in these 14 pages?
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Just to make it official
(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
Ok, it is official! Welcome Sacar!!
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http://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/ (http://painttouches.com/2015/02/23/hard-work-behind-the-rise-of-sacar-anim/)
That's quite the skilled player list to be associated with. Noticed Haanif on there as well. Has Wojo been using advanced stats?
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So I've seen him listed at 6'3", 6'4" and 6'5" so far.... ;)
And as a wing and a guard.
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Welcome to the family Sacar!
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And as a wing and a guard.
Shooting guards are wings.
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Is there a pronouciation guide for his name anywhere in these 14 pages?
"sah-CAR"... "Anam" like Adam
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Alright, alright, alright!
(http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/matthew-mcconaughey-alright-alright-alright.jpg)
Welcome Sacar!
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It's nice to grab an under-radar player just as he's starting to rise to be on lots of schools' radar. Looks like a great get.
Next, hopefully, a PG who can shoot and a rebounder. Oh, and another shooter!
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Alright, alright, alright!
(http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/matthew-mcconaughey-alright-alright-alright.jpg)
Welcome Sacar!
Thank you.
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"sah-CAR"... "Anam" like Adam
"tank You," Bea Jaye
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Thank Sacar, Wadesworld.
Thank Sacar.
Sounds like this kids can defend on the perimeter. Lord knows we need it.
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Welcome to the family Sacar!
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Welcome to MU Sacar.
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"tank You," Bea Jaye
I thought it was like "Suck 'er"
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JB, what exactly is free throw rate?
Welcome Sacar!
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https://www.youtube.com/v/ur39jNMeTLI
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I thought it was like "Suck 'er"
Close! I almost typed "like sucker but suck car w a quick transition from suck to car"
slim -- FTRate is FTA/FGA. I also like to keep what I call "2fg FTRate"... FTA/2pt FGA... Helps more in understanding contact drawn when attacking for some players, depending on how often they shoot treys
Sacar probably trends in the area of 30% of his FGA's bring 3's... 25-30% is prob about right for him
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Close! I almost typed "like sucker but suck car w a quick transition from suck to car"
slim -- FTRate is FTA/FGA. I also like to keep what I call "2fg FTRate"... FTA/2pt FGA... Helps more in understanding contact drawn when attacking for some players, depending on how often they shoot treys
Sacar probably trends in the area of 30% of his FGA's bring 3's... 25-30% is prob about right for him
https://www.youtube.com/v/G7A9erysL4s
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To some. Not me.
Of course not, Nostrodamus.
No, my whip isn't that big plus I'm still in the Twin Cities tonight. I think they're playing Milwaukee Washington tomorrow.
Goanar Mar (2017), Sacar Anim (2015) guys to watch. Former target & Minnesota-commit Jarvis Johnson is a 2015 as well, along with Josh Collins.
Could MU consider Sacar? Probably
Goanar could be really good. Need more time to tell though.
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I like this. Joe brings toughness and defense and those work the minute you get on campus. He has a good looking jumper and takes the ball to the hoop aggressively as Jerel did. He doesn't look 6'5" to me but he seems to have the ability to disrupt on defense. Here is a good overview of his game. Reminds me Jerel as a junior in HS.
[url][http://youtu.be/ur39jNMeTLI/[url]
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Welcome Sacar.
Kick some a*s! Take no prisoners.
NCAA, we'll be back soon!
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Welcome 2 Warrior Nation, Sacar!!!
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I thought it was like "Suck 'er"
Not until his first mediocre performance.
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I like this. Joe brings toughness and defense and those work the minute you get on campus. He has a good looking jumper and takes the ball to the hoop aggressively as Jerel did. He doesn't look 6'5" to me but he seems to have the ability to disrupt on defense. Here is a good overview of his game. Reminds me Jerel as a junior in HS.
[url][http://youtu.be/ur39jNMeTLI/[url]
Sacar reminds you of Marquette's all time scoring leader? But heck, I'll take A 4 year double digit scoring machine
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It's pronounced "Sah-car ai'na"
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It's pronounced "Sah-car ai'na"
Bravo!
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Welcome Sacar,
Relish the moment. Like a new car, your value (on MUScoop) will drop sharply once you arrive on campus. Unless, of course, you don't play much in which case a vocal minority will consider you an All-American being held back by Wojo.
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Welcome Sacar,
Relish the moment. Like a new car, your value (on MUScoop) will drop sharply once you arrive on campus. Unless, of course, you don't play much in which case a vocal minority will consider you an All-American being held back by Wojo.
I wish this weren't so true.
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Welcome Sacar,
Relish the moment. Like a new car, your value (on MUScoop) will drop sharply once you arrive on campus. Unless, of course, you don't play much in which case a vocal minority will consider you an All-American being held back by Wojo.
insert any message board for (on MUScoop) around just about any player. It's the QB \ backup QB syndrome.
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Welcome to the MU family, Sacar! :D
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Excited to see Sacar join the team. Looks like a kid that knows the amount of hard work is needed to grow as a player, as evidenced by his rise this year. I hope he continues to put in the work and grow into a great piece for the team over his Marquette career. Playing hard-nosed defense is a great start, that is for certain.
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Whadaya know. My sister (MU '86) works with Sacar's dad. Small world.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/G7A9erysL4s
Following a 17-year-old's very public Twitter account = weird.
Making fun of a 17-year-old's name = nice?
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Just voted AP Minnesota player of the year.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/preps/296472361.html
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Just voted AP Minnesota player of the year.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/preps/296472361.html
Nice!
I love the Anim and Carter gets by Wojo. They show the ability to identify under-the-radar guys who are rising, the ability to get the guys very interested in Marquette very quickly and the ability to close even before the guys visit other schools.
It's pretty damn impressive, if you ask me.
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Minnesota Player of the Year. That is awesome. Welcome aboard Mr. Sacar Anim.
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Awesome!
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We be good, welcome to MU Sacar!!
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Minnesota Player of the Year. That is awesome. Welcome aboard Mr. Sacar Anim.
Wow, looks like WOJO is planting our flag in Minnesota.
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I'm down with all this, but 'member Steve's got playin' time to sell also, hey?
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Sacar's teammate, Jarvis Johnson, a PG who accepted a scholarship to Minny failed to make the first team.
Also on the first team and the only non senior is Gary Trent, Jr., a sophomore. His dad was a hell of a stud for Ohio:
"He played college basketball at Ohio University in the Mid-American Conference (MAC), where his size and powerful play earned him the nickname "The Shaq of the MAC". Trent was named Mid-American Conference Player of the Year all three years that he played in Athens (1993, 1994, 1995)."
The Bucks drafted him 11th in the 1995 draft, but immediately traded him to Portland.
I would expect that Wojo will keep his eyes on junior.
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Well done, young man. Congratulations.