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Title: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 10, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
Let me interpret this article. 

VT is 9 - 7 and on their way to 9 - 11 and then worse.  But even though this year will be as bad as last year, Buzz is the man!!  At least we hope he is.

Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
By michaelcosteines
January 9, 2015

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2015/01/09/why-buzz-williams-is-the-right-man-for-virginia-tech/

The Virginia Tech Hokies are off to a rough start this season, going 9-7 and winless in their first two ACC games. Moving forward, it does not get any easier for the Hokies, who face four ranked teams over their next four games.

While the next couple weeks and the season might be tough in Blacksburg, the future looks bright with new head coach Buzz Williams. Williams took over the position after James Johnson was let go after going 22-41 overall and a putrid 6-30 in conference play. Last season, the Hokies finished dead last in the conference standings after winning just two games.

In has come Williams, a controversial move considering his success with the Marquette Golden Eagles. During his stint with the Golden Eagles, Williams finished with a mark of 139-69 overall and had five seasons of 20 or more wins in his six seasons. The Golden Eagles went to the Sweet 16 twice and earned a trip to the Elite Eight during his tenure.

The Hokies have suffered through three straight losing seasons, making the move by Williams an even more surprising one. With him here, the Hokies will gradually see improvement as Williams builds recruiting classes and develops a relationship with his players.

The Hokies’ roster only has two seniors, one of which plays only 7.3 minutes per game. Led by freshman Justin Bibbs with 13.5 points per game, the top seven scorers are all underclassmen and will return barring a transfer or medical injury. Add another class or two from Williams and the Hokies could be developing a nucleus of talent in Blacksburg they haven’t had since the Seth Greenberg days.

Williams will have to develop the Hokies’ offense moving forward. The team is averaging just 69.4 points per game, currently 145th in the country. On the defensive end, the Hokies are even worse, holding opponents to 66.2 points per game. While that might not seem bad, consider that the Hokies have earned that mark without playing virtually anyone in the ACC. Over their last three games, the Hokies have given up 80 or more points twice.

It might not be this year, but don’t be surprised if the Hokies play a tough game against a superior talented team in the league this season. It won’t be long before Williams has Virginia Tech winning 20 or more games again and near the top of the ACC standings. The Buzz in Cassell Coliseum will return shortly for Hokie Fans. In a way however, it has already started.

Michael Costeines is the ACC basketball Blogger for Rantsports.com. Follow him on Twitter @MCosteines, “Like” him on Facebook or add him to your network on Google.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: shoothoops on January 10, 2015, 01:16:27 PM
Not much there. Based on Williams' recent past success elsewhere, as well as early recruiting, there is some hope for the future of Virginia Tech Basketball. That's basically what that says and is at this time. Check back in a few years to monitor progress and down the road to see if he is able to build something there or not. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 10, 2015, 05:11:49 PM
Please reserve judgment for 5 years, aina?
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Class71 on January 19, 2015, 12:48:27 PM
Please reserve judgment for 5 years, aina?

Like to see if he is capable of coaching HS grads with no JC experience.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 19, 2015, 01:01:52 PM
Watched him a little last night vs UNC. Bumstead has gained a few lbs. Still rockin' the Gucci's. Buy stock in whatever deodorant the cat spritzes, 'cuz he must go thru a chit load. He can have that whole VPI gig. It's a dead end cesspool, aina?
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: GooooMarquette on January 20, 2015, 07:41:07 AM
Buzz is the right man for VT basketball because he will never be questioned about failure to meet expectations, because there really won't be any.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: wadesworld on January 22, 2015, 12:12:16 PM
Watched him a little last night vs UNC. Bumstead has gained a few lbs. Still rockin' the Gucci's. Buy stock in whatever deodorant the cat spritzes, 'cuz he must go thru a chit load. He can have that whole VPI gig. It's a dead end cesspool, aina?

Must do all his shopping at MUScoop, aina?
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: keefe on January 22, 2015, 02:22:20 PM
Must do all his shopping at MUScoop, aina?

Bert gets his footwear from Thom McAn on Wisconsin Ave, aina?
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 22, 2015, 03:25:47 PM
His roster will be stocked with talent next season and still quite young to anticipate VT being a pain in the ass for many ACC teams in the coming seasons.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 22, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
His roster will be stocked with talent next season and still quite young to anticipate VT being a pain in the ass for many ACC teams in the coming seasons.

Stocked?

They have 1 top 100 guy coming in (#52 Chris Clark, SF) and are ranked as the 28th best recruiting class (5th best in the ACC with UNC, ND, Virginia not yet ranked)

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/259

Even by MU standards this is a very average class.  VT is 8-10 (0-5) and on a six game losing streak and on their way to last (again) in the ACC. 

Next year they might be looking at 14 (of 16) in the ACC

Stocked?

Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on January 23, 2015, 09:55:16 AM
His roster will be stocked with talent next season and still quite young to anticipate VT being a pain in the ass for many ACC teams in the coming seasons.

slurper
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Jay Bee on January 23, 2015, 08:02:17 PM
They have 1 top 100 guy coming in (#52 Chris Clark, SF) and are ranked as the 28th best recruiting class (5th best in the ACC with UNC, ND, Virginia not yet ranked)

It's Clarke, not Clark and he's an excellent fit for Buzz, who got him shortly after he had committed first to Tennessee. Great pick-up.

That said, the original article we're talking about using "stocked" is beyond ridiculous. They got a stud and great fit in Clarke. But it's the ACC! it's the ACC!

Look at a team like Virginia, MINUS the Tech... and see how many scholarship seniors they have... those two programs are worlds apart.

How long does he stay is the question......
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: AirPunches on January 23, 2015, 09:00:23 PM
It's Clarke, not Clark and he's an excellent fit for Buzz, who got him shortly after he had committed first to Tennessee. Great pick-up.

That said, the original article we're talking about using "stocked" is beyond ridiculous. They got a stud and great fit in Clarke. But it's the ACC! it's the ACC!

Look at a team like Virginia, MINUS the Tech... and see how many scholarship seniors they have... those two programs are worlds apart.

How long does he stay is the question......

Were Erik Williams and Jamail jones also studs ? Or did you know they were going to be a bust ? Buzz has not proven to be able to recruit and develop players out of high school.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Jay Bee on January 23, 2015, 10:16:07 PM
Were Erik Williams and Jamail jones also studs ? Or did you know they were going to be a bust ? Buzz has not proven to be able to recruit and develop players out of high school.

Relative to Chris Clarke? No. Very different stories.

E-Will, who initially committed to MU when I4 was HC, had a severe ankle injury. There was promise there, but no - not a known, legit stud.

Jamail I had watched quite a bit of in high school. Had some tools, but it needed to come together.

Chris Clarke is at a different level than those two at this point in time. Motor is unreal - he can excel with Buzz.

I don't think it'll ever go real well - consistently - for Buzz at Virginia Tech... but Chris Clarke is an excellent addition.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 26, 2015, 09:07:30 AM
Stocked?

They have 1 top 100 guy coming in (#52 Chris Clark, SF) and are ranked as the 28th best recruiting class (5th best in the ACC with UNC, ND, Virginia not yet ranked)

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/259

Even by MU standards this is a very average class.  VT is 8-10 (0-5) and on a six game losing streak and on their way to last (again) in the ACC.  

Next year they might be looking at 14 (of 16) in the ACC

Stocked?

Yes, jackass, stocked.

Seth Allen coming off redshirt is more talented than any player currently in or coming to the program you support. They also have Zach LeDay coming off redshirt who provides the athletic wing Buzz so covets. Add in Sophomores Bibbs and Hill in the backcourt, Pierce anchoring middle up front. Not to mention Wilson and Smith who have been solid revelations and the Hokies lose no player of consequence to eligibility exhaustion.

They'll have the best roster Blacksburg has seen in some time and a top third talent pool for the ACC. It's now down to Buzz to execute.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 26, 2015, 02:05:39 PM
Yes, jackass, stocked.

Seth Allen coming off redshirt is more talented than any player currently in or coming to the program you support. They also have Zach LeDay coming off redshirt who provides the athletic wing Buzz so covets. Add in Sophomores Bibbs and Hill in the backcourt, Pierce anchoring middle up front. Not to mention Wilson and Smith who have been solid revelations and the Hokies lose no player of consequence to eligibility exhaustion.

They'll have the best roster Blacksburg has seen in some time and a top third talent pool for the ACC. It's now down to Buzz to execute.

Seth Allen is better than Henry Ellenson?

And don't forget this is Buzz.  Three of these guys will transfer before midnight madness next October ... they always do.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: nyg on January 26, 2015, 02:20:22 PM
Seth Allen is better than Henry Ellenson?

And don't forget this is Buzz.  Three of these guys will transfer before midnight madness next October ... they always do.

Two different players, different roles.  I can tell you this, I saw Seth Allen play at Maryland and he was one of best guards in ACC.  This guy can play the point and he can shoot.  Only reason he left was because Melo Trimble was recruited and he will probably be #2 behind Okafor for ACC ROY.  If Allen was on MU's roster right now, he would be the best player. 
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 26, 2015, 03:07:54 PM
Yes, jackass, stocked.

Seth Allen coming off redshirt is more talented than any player currently in or coming to the program you support. They also have Zach LeDay coming off redshirt who provides the athletic wing Buzz so covets. Add in Sophomores Bibbs and Hill in the backcourt, Pierce anchoring middle up front. Not to mention Wilson and Smith who have been solid revelations and the Hokies lose no player of consequence to eligibility exhaustion.

They'll have the best roster Blacksburg has seen in some time and a top third talent pool for the ACC. It's now down to Buzz to execute.

Bibbs and Hill were 4*s, ranked 87th and 61st respectively. Pierce and LeDay were unranked 3*s. Allen's consensus ranking was 2.3*s, though his performance says he's much better than that. Don't know Wilson or Smith but I assume they're 2* or 3* guys. They'll be better next year, but top third talent in the ACC? That's a reach.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 26, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
Seth Allen is better than Henry Ellenson?

And don't forget this is Buzz.  Three of these guys will transfer before midnight madness next October ... they always do.

Proven commodity better than potential commodity. My advice is to put down the google galunga machine for a few hours one night and actually watch a Hokies basketball game rather than prop up some nebulous ranking of one player on a roster that will feature double digit players. Buzz will be alright.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 26, 2015, 05:54:18 PM
Bibbs and Hill were 4*s, ranked 87th and 61st respectively. Pierce and LeDay were unranked 3*s. Allen's consensus ranking was 2.3*s, though his performance says he's much better than that. Don't know Wilson or Smith but I assume they're 2* or 3* guys. They'll be better next year, but top third talent in the ACC? That's a reach.

If I trumpeted Clarke as some sort of messiah, I could see the relevancy of prep rankings but as it is they are pointless to this discussion.

Every player I named has performed at the Division I level, with some at a quite high capacity. These are known products who will improve either through redshirting or playing through the fire as rookies. Roster is stocked.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on January 26, 2015, 06:01:46 PM
If I trumpeted Clarke as some sort of messiah, I could see the relevancy of prep rankings but as it is they are pointless to this discussion.

Every player I named has performed at the Division I level, with some at a quite high capacity. These are known products who will improve either through redshirting or playing through the fire as rookies. Roster is stocked.

Lol, are you Brent Williams??  :o
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: tower912 on January 26, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
He was actually pretty negative toward Buzz his last couple of years.    But anybody claiming Buzz can't coach is letting hurt feelings cloud their objectivity.    He had a bad year.   He's gone.   He can still coach. 
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 26, 2015, 07:51:40 PM
This was on the wire earlier today.  Man can still jump


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8SLP7eCAAEV63u.jpg)
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: keefe on January 26, 2015, 08:20:50 PM
This was on the wire earlier today.  Man can still jump


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8SLP7eCAAEV63u.jpg)

Susan G. Komen.  F uck those guys
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 26, 2015, 08:43:54 PM
Barney was in a pink shirt in the 2nd half--well sweat stained.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: wadesworld on January 26, 2015, 11:32:51 PM
This was on the wire earlier today.  Man can still jump


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8SLP7eCAAEV63u.jpg)

Looks like a freaking Leprechaun. He could get a free ride to ND with those moves. Could use one, too.

Bert can recruit. Especially jucos and fire starters. Coach? Meh.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 27, 2015, 12:42:25 AM
Wonder if he could give Wally a run for his money.
Title: Re: Examining Why Buzz Williams is the Right Man for Virginia Tech Basketball
Post by: barfolomew on January 28, 2015, 11:41:08 AM
Relative to Chris Clarke? No. Very different stories.

And don't think we didn't see you sneak a "relative to" into the conversation.
Your character has been revealed, sir.